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J. Mac
Things broke his way. Yeah, pretty fortunate. On fourth down almost every freaking time.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think the lesson last night and I don't care if you're a football coach, a CEO or a parent, operating in absolutes usually does not end well. Just think about that. Operating in absolutes. Dan Campbell. Now coaches like we always go for it on fourth down. And this morning, lion fans, oh, they feel great and it is great when you're 3, 13 and 1. But do you know the team since Dan Campbell arrived in the NFL that don't go for it on 4th down? Do you know who they are? The Chiefs, the Bills and the Niners. They protect leads. You're no longer the hunter, you're the hunted. You're now IBM. You're not a startup company. Dan Campbell can no longer be a pro wrestler living up to the gimmick. They lead the NFL in fourth down attempts and fourth down conversions. And you feel great this morning. But that's not who you are anymore. It's like when you're young, put your money in bitcoin. When you're old, put it in bonds. It's a different life. The Runway now. Your players are now in their prime. They're going to get very, very expensive. You're going to have to move off them. You're playing consistently with leads. In my lifetime, I don't ever remember a team winning the super bowl that had the all season label of man. They are risky. New England wasn't. Kansas City isn't. Buffalo isn't. That's not what wins championships. Last year against Dallas, by the way. Two point conversions, week 17, remember we kept going for those. It cost you the game and it cost you the playoff tiebreaker. So this eventually won't win. Kansas City, Buffalo and San Francisco. Since Dan Campbell came in the league, the three winningest teams don't go for it. They're protecting leads, protecting assets like right Now, Detroit should be buying insurance for this mansion they've built for all these beautiful assets they have. But they're just used to losing. The Tigers lose, the Pistons lose, the Lions lose. It's Loserville, and they've never been in this spot. But you are no longer the looking uphill at everybody else. You're looking down at everybody. You're leading these games. You need to ensure wins. Reckless is not going to. I mean, like that play when there's 43 seconds left and you go for it. Kick the field goal. Even analytics said kick the field goal. Good God. Just take the lead. Green Bay's got 43 seconds and no timeouts left. And they just stopped you on third and one. They couldn't do it on fourth and one. This thing. Jared Goff fel down. It was almost a disaster. Just take the lead again. When companies grow, when you're a startup company, you can take swings at stuff because you have nothing to lose. Detroit now has stuff to lose. Super Bowls, not games. Home field advantage. Here comes Philadelphia. Super Bowls. Minnesota is on your heels. You have a lot more to lose now. I don't believe in playing it safe. Playing it safe is Michigan against Penn State. Second half, never throwing the ball, not going for it when you can, for 43 seconds left, take the lead is not playing it safe. It's playing it reasonable. And everybody in life has to pivot again. Stuff I did at 20s I'm not doing once I have kids. Stuff I invested in when I was 20, I'm not doing now. I don't have the Runway to make that kind of money. Detroit's different now. They're looking down, they're not looking up. You gotta pivot. And they're a very good team, but they're so beat up defensively now. The margins are getting tight. The margins are getting very small in these games. They don't look like they did in October. And that means situational football will be king. That's why Andy Reid is winning Super Bowls. It's why Sean Payton has turned around the Broncos in year two with a rookie quarterback. He's winning those situational moments. And sometimes the winning isn't going forward. It's field position, it's punting. It's not beating yourself. So this morning, everybody feels good. But I just. To me, 43 seconds left. Going for it. Golf almost falls. What if there's a fumble? And then. I mean, seriously, when he fell, I'm thinking, oh, my God, this reminds me of Joe Posarczyk. The Giants and the Eagles 30 years ago in the NFL. You guys don't remember that if you're in your 20s and 30s. That was almost a disaster of epic performance proportions. Like, oh, my God, here's Dan Campbell after. I just felt like we needed to end it on offense, you know, and I did not want to get that ball back. And I believe we could get that. I believe we can convert. It's a hell of a call by Ben. You know, it just. I knew how I wanted to play this game. The team knew it, and. And everything in me told me that. Let's. Let's finish this. And so we did. I loved Dan Campbell's ethos and the way he built this startup, but they're not a startup. You know, they're. They're not first year after Blockbuster Netflix. They're like the king of streaming. Like, this is the best roster probably in football. They're setting records. I mean, last night is a prime example of what playoff football looks like. Detroit couldn't run the ball. They couldn't run the ball. They got into a tight game at home. That's a playoff game. And again, I just think this city has had so many losing teams that they don't realize now they're no longer the hunter, they are the hunted. And when they go to the playoffs, the pressure now mounts. You'll be a number one seed. It mounts. Teams are tight. Your defense isn't as good. You're beat up. No reason to be reckless. No reason to be. There's a big difference between taking smart, reasonable risk and reckless. But this morning, everybody feels great. Let's talk Green Bay. So I've said this a few times. The packers are the Lions last year. They're one year away. They're really, really close. Green Bay is excellent head coach, excellent quarterback, excellent skill people. Excellent. Jordan Love is. He just needs more seasoning. When he came out of Utah State, he was a project. Well, he's not a project anymore, but he's not quite there. You saw in the first half, he only had three completions. The last two years he started off, and he has to literally go into the Matt LaFleur school of quarterbacking. So he's only started 30 games. And to give you some idea of how few that is, Mac Jones has 45 starts, okay? He's got like 50% more starts. So, I mean, Jaden Reed almost got no looks last night. So Jordan Love is really, really good. So is the coach. So is the running back. So are the skilled people really good. But I feel like There's. There's steps in everything. You really see it in the NBA. Giannis was good, then he was great, then he was dominant. There's a title, then he gets older, then he gets aging, then he gets hurt. Like there's steps to all this stuff. San Francisco is a great example. Last five years, they felt like Detroit, that's the best roster probably in the NFL. And then all of a sudden it gets expensive and brittle, and all of a sudden it fall. So right now, Green Bay is a stock, and it is just going up, up, up. And I think it's one year away, maybe not. Maybe they shock the world. But Green Bay is 9 and 4, so they've lost to the Lions twice, the Eagles and The Vikings. They're 9 and 0 against everybody else. So they're losing to the right teams. And last night I thought, I'll be honest with you, when they got the interception. So they start the second half of the ball, they get a touchdown, and they get an interception and get another touchdown. I thought it was Green Bay's night, and we'll talk more about that. But they're close. They're really, really close. There's not a. There's not much about Green Bay I don't like. And here's their coach after told our team, I mean, we're going to have to earn the right to potentially come back here, and it's not going to be easy, and we got to put in the work and. But I'm confident in the resiliency of our group and that they're going to continue to fight and push each other to get better and stay connected, because I do think we have a pretty good football team. I'm watching those two teams last night with my wife, Anne, and she's from Detroit, and I'm like, what you're watching are two really, really good football teams. Top five team. Those are two top five teams in the league, and Detroit may be number one and Green Bay be number five. Whatever. Those are two top five teams. And I kept thinking, poor Chicago, poor Chicago Bears. I mean, you better get the right coach, because Green Bay is not. They don't have players in their prime yet. Jordan Love's not in his prime yet. All those receivers, tight ends, they're not in their prime yet. Detroit's players are just. Pen Sewell are just entering their prime. So Detroit's a year ahead in my opinion of what Green Bay is. But I kept thinking, boy, Chicago, you could add a Harbaugh. You whiffed on that. You Better get a rock star at coach because Green Bay for the next five years is super bowl category starting to meet next year and Detroit's there now. That was a really good product last night. JMAC people complain about officiating, get to that later. But that was, that was really good coaching. Quarterback play, intensity, there was drama, there's great skill. I thought Green Bay's defense, you know, like really slowing down the Detroit running train was something not many people have done that.
J. Mac
Who do you come out looking better in this game like going forward this season? I know you mentioned next I think Detroit's.
Colin Cowherd
I think to win a Super bowl you generally have to have six or seven really elite players in their prime. And I think Green Bay maybe has one Jair Alexander Ish maybe one and then they have about five guys like Jordan Love next year by Thanksgiving he's in the prime. I don't think they're quite. I think all these gal they're skill players feel like Thanksgiving next year. They're all moving into. They played 20 games, 25 games. They're moving into their prime.
J. Mac
I just look at that Packers 31 points. Jaden Reed did nothing. He had one target, zero catches. Jaden Reed is super dynamic. They scored I believe four straight times when they had the ball in the second half. Yeah, I come away from this like you don't want to see the packers in January. This team looked to me really good. Defense wasn't healthy.
Colin Cowherd
I.
J. Mac
Well, by the way, sign on the packers for me.
Colin Cowherd
By the way. Oh yeah. Going forward, defenses statistically get hurt more than offenses. Both those defenses last night beat up. Yeah, offense is healthy, defense is beat up. So of the many reasons offense has taken over this league, the Niners great defense couldn't stop Holmes in the Super Bowl. Right. Like we see Kansas City's great defense, you know, struggles in Super Bowls to stop Philadelphia, what you're finding is as the league has become more offensive and quarterback centric, the other reality, the other truth statistically is defensive players get hurt more than offensive players. And last night there's like seven different defensive starters out and the offenses are humming.
J. Mac
How about the packers by the way defensively taking away the big gigantic play from the Lions. Remember Monday Night Football? There was all these 70, 80 yard plays. None of that for the Lions. I think their longest play was 28 yards. They're keeping everything in front of them with the two high and I just come away like Detroit look good but that Green Bay team, four or five in the red zone. They looked awesome to me last night on the road. Hostile environment. I think packers could make the NFC championship would not surprise me at all.
Colin Cowherd
No, wouldn't Me either. Coming up next, the worst move maybe of the year in the NFL. And it was a move a team didn't make. And I heard something yesterday about Bill Belichick that is a complete head scratcher. We'll talk about that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app apple cart is the.
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Some things just sound like a terrible idea. Report that Bill Belichick has genuine interest in coaching North Carolina. Now that back Mack Brown's leaving. That is a terrible idea. Bill belichick groveling to 18 year olds. Yeah, that's not going to work. Say it out loud. Belichick with donors groveling to recruits, doing TikTok videos to get a linebacker in Texas. This thing feels like the Grinch saying, you know, I want to lead the Christmas parade. College football is more charisma than curmudgeon and it's also 17 hours a week max of practice. Do your job is do your job really quickly. I mean Nick Saban is the closest comp to Belichick and he said get me out of here with the nil and portal changes like Nick's like I'm done. This feels like Matt Patricia to offensive coordinator college football coach is 75% sales and marketing and that's why I think Lincoln Riley struggling at usc. He doesn't love recruiting. Chip Kelly didn't love recruiting. Dan Mullen didn't love recruiting. I think they're all good coaches. So I just this is some things just don't you think to yourself, well, if you can coach in college, you could. If you're a Super bowl winning coach, you could coach in college. It doesn't work that way. College is like a different world. He has a 24 year old girlfriend. She would be great in Chapel Hill. Bill at 72, which by the way, isn't that about the time Rodney Dangerfield went back to college? How'd that work out? I just don't. It doesn't work. This is not going to work. There are college coaches that I think would work in the NFL. Jim Harbaugh proven it. I think there are NFL coaches. I always thought Jon Gruden would be a great college coach. He's got some charisma, he's a good salesman. He can sell. John and I always thought, by the way, Rex Ryan, I thought he has no interest in it. I told Rex Ryan once, you'd be a great college coach. Good looking guy, big smile, big energy. He'd be better than 90% of the coaches at college anyway. There are guys out there in the NFL that could coach college. I absolutely believe it. And there's, you know, there's college guys that can work in the pros, but it's, there's personality matters. Nick Saban needs control. He wasn't a great fit in the NFL. You know, Pete Carroll could coach both, Jimmy Johnson could coach both. But it's not for everybody. This just sounds awful now. Maybe again we've been talking about this Belichick and he's doing a good job at this. Is creating headlines about coaching while he broadcasts. But nobody thinks Bill loves broadcasting. He loves coaching. Sean Payton really, really liked broadcasting and he got back to coaching. Bill doesn't love it. He never loved the media. He's doing a good job. But a lot of what he's saying now feels like it's engineering interest for jobs, which I'm okay with. Use us all you have to. But that's what it. This doesn't sound good to me at all. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.
J. Mac
Look at Rodney Dangerfield reference. Let's get started with Saquon Barkley, who has been the biggest offseason addition by any team this summer. Eagles are flying high and reaping the benefits. Saquon has been getting a lot of MVP love, but he thinks there's one person on his own team who deserves to be in the conversation as well.
Colin Cowherd
I was talking about the other day with my family. I don't really know how to Explain it. But he has it, the it factor to win football games.
Questlove
He has that.
Colin Cowherd
And then they're like, well, how do you explain it? I don't really know.
Jon Stewart
How do you explain that?
Colin Cowherd
You just know it. You see it. I don't think there's a lot of people who's going to have a fumble snap on a one yard line and still find a way to score a touchdown. Like he has that to him and throughout his whole, you know, his whole career here. Yeah, I think that it is hard to explain but there is a certain it quality to certain quarterbacks where they're not the biggest. He's not the best guy from the pocket, he's not the biggest. He runs often better than he throws. But there is an it quality. People, certain people just. I mean when you look at Joe Burrow, he doesn't have the biggest arm. He didn't have. He didn't have the biggest size. He's not the most mobile. But there was something about Joe Burrow on third down. Accuracy, repetition, unafraid. Like there you would get when Josh Allen throws the ball with his size or Mahomes is doing arm angles or Stafford, you're like oh yeah, yeah. Or Aaron Rodgers. But there is. And you get Brady and Manning, the mastery of the line of scrimmage. But Jalen is not considered a plus in most of the things that you. He doesn't run like Lamar or Josh Allen, always pretty good. He doesn't throw like, you know, a Herbert or a Burrow. But there is a quality to him that he is when given the right tools, he's a tough out.
J. Mac
Yeah, you used the word charisma last segment and that's what the right now Riz, you know, the Rizzler like Jalen hurts has that. He just, he looks unrattled, unbothered at all times and he has that gravitational pull like anywhere he goes, people like him.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
J. Mac
Remember how he like kind of flamed out at Alabama and TUA was waiting behind him. Goes to Oklahoma. What happens, Colin, you know, they're amazing. He's in the Heisman discussion.
Colin Cowherd
Team captain. Yeah.
J. Mac
Like everybody loves him. Everywhere he goes, he's just got that it quality. Let's go to another guy who doesn't really have that and that's Kirk Cousins. He's going home ish to Minnesota this week for the first time as a Falcon. He played many years for the Vikings, but Cousins, man, we talked about this streak. Zero touchdowns, six picks in his last three games. You don't want to say he Looked washed against the Chargers, but some of.
Colin Cowherd
Those throws he did.
J. Mac
Oh, my gosh. Well, head coach Raheem Morris was asked about making a quarterback change. He said Kirk is built for this and he's ready to go. So when handicapping this game and you want to break it down, you know, Kevin O'Connell saw Kirk Cousins all of last year was with him. Brian Flores saw him last year, was with him the whole time. They decided move on from it.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
J. Mac
They know his strengths, his weaknesses.
Colin Cowherd
Kevin O'Connell moving off him for Sam Darnold, who was a reclamation project, that there, there's your answer. And I thought he was a great fit in Atlanta. I thought it would work for about a year and a half. It looks like it's worked for about 75% of one year it had. By the way, he and Aaron Rodgers both have struggled in second halves. Have you noticed Aaron Rodgers, his second half numbers are bad. So he comes out and you know he's on script. And then when you ask Aaron to add lib, he runs out of juice. Remember Tyson by round three or four, lost his legs. If you watch Kirk Cousins second halves, he. He's lost his legs. He loses his fastball. And they're both. Aaron and Kirk are coming off surgeries. They probably should have taken another two months off. Remember the first game, Kirk Cousins against the Steelers.
J. Mac
Oh, terrible.
Colin Cowherd
It was just. He looked. And then second game, third game, fourth game. But it does feel like he. When you come off that surgery, you can. You can fake it for about 10 weeks. You get into the later part of the season and Aaron and Kirk look tired.
J. Mac
I mean, Kevin O'Connell knows how limited Cousins is with the playbook like the replays. He couldn't run in Minnesota because of Kirk's issues. And I just think Brian Flores knows this guy. Saw him in practice every day. I don't know why the Vikings aren't a lock here to win this game and cover. Now this hit six yesterday. This went all the way up to six. Came back a little to five and a half. Are we going to hear about this game in the blazing five?
Colin Cowherd
Yes, we are.
J. Mac
Okay, good to know. Good to know.
Colin Cowherd
It is a favorites weekend, by the way. I like a lot of favorites.
J. Mac
All right, final story. Colin, this is kind of crazy, but last night during the pregame ceremony of Packers Lions, some jabroni who was holding the flag, some Lions fan starts just jaw jacking with the coach of the Packers. Look at him. He's talking trash. He was supposed he's out there to hold the flag during the national anthem and this dude just starts. I don't know what he was saying to LaFleur, but LaFleur was having none of it. Colin, I mean, come on. This is embarrassing for Detroit. You're there to hold a flag, not talk trash to the opposing coach.
Colin Cowherd
Listen, Dan Campbell was getting death threats earlier this year. That's right. At his home. I mean, Detroit, we know, it's Loserville. Take a deep breath. This is a rare moment where people actually care about your sports teams. Act like grownups. Yeah.
J. Mac
Act like you've been there before, even though you haven't.
Colin Cowherd
Embarrassing. That's bad. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. So this story is a real thing. Kevin Warren is the president of the Chicago Bears. A lot of different opinions. Used to run the Big Ten, some have told me didn't. Don't always think he's buttoned up with the details. But according to a longtime host in Chicago, Dan McNeil and a former general manager in the NFL, Mike Lombardi, Jim Harbaugh wanted the Bears job in January, but Kevin Warren quashed it. So Harbaugh wanted the job. So they're. Listen, whatever you think about Kevin Warren and the Bears, there's three major red flags with the Bears and they're undeniable. Passing on Jim Harbaugh, who was the perfect fed. Get to that in a second. Passing on Cliff Kingsbury for Shane Waldron. Kingsbury had been Caleb Williams, OC in college, and they considered benching Caleb Williams, who, by the way, has more 100 plus passer rating games this year than Patrick Mahomes. They thought about benching him. So take out the jets and, you know, Chicago, there's an argument, is the second most dysfunctional team in this league. All of the Caleb Williams private hesitations about this team and franchise have been validated. I broke a story last year and I said privately, he's got concerns. He came out the next day and said, no, no, no, no, no, I don't. No, he didn't want to be the bad guy. But privately, people in his camp were saying, it's the Bears. They can't get quarterback. Right? And he was right. And I mean, if it's true that Kevin Warren passed on Jim Harbaugh, you got to get over yourself sometimes. Don't make it personal. It's business. And I mean, just think about how good of a fit Jim Harbaugh was. Just think about this. First of all, you know, I'll say this. Men holding grudges have ruined a lot of businesses. But Jim Harbaugh has a history with the Bears and a history of developing quarterbacks, and he's a culture builder. Is there anybody in the NFL now that the Chargers are fixed, that needs their culture fixed more than maybe the jets and the Bears? Kevin Stefanski's done a good job in Cleveland. He really has. He doesn't have the quarterback right, but he's done a good job. Harbaugh has done a great job. That's what Harbaugh does. Great with quarterbacks, great culture builder. That's exactly what the Bears needed. And the Bears need a rock star head coach. Did you watch Green Bay in Detroit last night? There were 20 great players in those games and all of them either young or in their prime. And forget Minnesota, which is 10 and 2 in a rebuilding year at quarterback. So you can't ham and egg it in Chicago. You can't worry about if you're Kevin Warren. I want to hire a coach I can control. That's not going to be a Harbaugh or a Sean Payton or a Belichick or a Mike Vrabel. Get out of the control thing. Guys love controlling stuff. Rock stars can't be controlled. Real ones. And coaches rocks. Rock stars, they can't be controlled. Harbaugh's not going to be controlled. Sean Payton's not. Annie Reed's not. Belichick wasn't. So it's. I mean, I don't doubt this story for a second. And here's the thing. We talk about this all the time. Jim Harbaugh with a history of the Bears culture changing and quarterback elevation. This was an easy one. This is a layup. And what do I always say about young quarterbacks in the league? If you can't get the layups right, you're not going to work. When Kenny Pickett struggling with the layups or Desmond ritter, you know, eight yards in the flat, you have to hit it 100 out of 100 times. Zach Wilson missed like 10 out of 30. You got to get the layups in this league. Got to get the layups right. You missed the dunks occasionally at three pointers. I'll give it to you. Harbaugh to the Bears was a lap. Cliff Kingsbury to the Bears was a layup. You're missing the layups. So I don't doubt this story at all. And by the way, this is not a Caleb Williams issue. Greg Cosell was on our show yesterday. Greg Cosell, who looks at film, probably the most objective person I bring on this show has zero agendas. It's not the quarterback. The quarterback's talented. He's more decisive. The ball's coming out now. It's a coach's job to nitpick. So there are a couple of things that the film shows that he absolutely needs to work on to even get better. He has a tendency to climb or step up in the pocket when there's no pressure on him. So he creates some of his own pressure by doing that that he needs to work on. The other thing that he's getting better at, and this is good, is he used to leave the pocket by retreating backwards. You can't do that in the NFL. Those are things Harbaugh would have gotten rid of very quickly. But Co Sell has said this three straight weeks. When he talks about Caleb Williams, he'll tell you the guy's an unbelievable talent. He's an unbelievable talent. And Co Sell doesn't say that. Co Sell didn't buy into the Russell Wilson hype in Seattle. Never bought into the Trevor Lawrence stuff. There's a lot of stuff he pushes back on. He keeps saying when he comes on our show, this kid's unbelievable. Can the Bears just not screw it up? That's what it comes down to. A blazing five. I really like the picks this week. Really, really like the picks this week in our blazing five. And I will tell you, a lot of it. Circumstantial. Teams will play poorly, then they go back home. There's a couple of those and they have to win. I actually think there's. I think you and I are going to have more agreement in blazing five than we have had all seat. We always have one we agree with and one we disagree with. I think. I think you may have picked three or four of the games I liked. That's. That's how obvious the games are this week.
J. Mac
Did you pick a team that rhymes with schmeagles?
Colin Cowherd
No, I did not.
J. Mac
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
Okay. I did. Well, you know my rule. The biggest spread of the week. I don't pay.
J. Mac
Yeah, you toss that, Ida.
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So the Lions were missing 11 starters against the Packers. That's why I like Green Bay and the points last night, 28, 27, 18 players on the IR is currently the most in the NFL. So they're going out and getting Jamal Adams and they're finding guys on the street. And again, that's why I thought Green Bay would kind of narrowly win last night. So what that Detroit win proves last night though is how real they are. So it's a stacked roster. We know that. And even when it gets eaten alive by injuries, they can still be to Green Bay and their front office can still cherry pick guys around the league and on the street. And so in Detroit last year we loved the story of the Lions. This year I think it's easier to love the team. I think they're going to begin. I think this is the first year of about four years of them entering a San Francisco 49er stage where we kind of feel like, oh, this is the best roster in the league. And that's how we felt about the Niners. And it lasted about four to five years and now it's gotten old. But I think Detroit's Entering that Niner state, it doesn't guarantee Super Bowls. You got to constantly tweak. But I trust their front office. So outside of Philadelphia, I think Detroit has the best roster. I think their O line's the best in the league. I think their quarterback is great. I think they have two unique running backs. They'll get a star edge rusher back next year. They have the best young safety in the game. There's nothing I don't like. And last night's a great example where they didn't run the ball, and that's what they do really well. So they need Goff to be great, and Goff didn't have an incompletion for the last 21 and a half minutes of the game. So, you know, really good teams win different ways. And because they have so many great players going into their prime, Goff's expensive. Panay Sewell. You're going to have to start paying Omaron St. Brown. You start paying three, four, five guys like the Niners, then it gets tough. The margins shrink really quickly. There are about three years when the Niners were just blasting people, and then last year they're beating people, and this year they're losing close games. So there I. But I think they're. This team has entered the Niner stage. Four to five years of wow, blowing a lot of people out. Enough great players where they don't have to play all their starters can miss several starters and beat an excellent team. And here's Dan Campbell after. Guys, I'm so freaking proud of you, man. That's a way to show up. You talk about pressure. We live in pressure. That's where we freaking thrive. You did it again. You did it again.
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No matter what's going on, you always find a way to win. That's what champions do. So last night, Green Bay gets the ball in the second half to start. Touchdown. Interception. Touchdown. So Detroit went, you know, from up 10 to down 4, and you're like, oh. And it was a heavyweight fight. They were the last one standing. Goff didn't throw in completions. There was one punt in the second half. It turned into a track meet. It wasn't in the first half. It turned into a track meet, and they're missing 18 guys on the IR and they won. So it's something. It's impressive. So, you know, I got into this discussion yesterday with a friend, big Ohio State fan, and I said, you know, obviously, we are still talking about a football game that Happened Saturday, a college football game. So that's the big game in college football. And it was a shocking result. Ohio State 3 touchdown favorite plus and lost at home. So Urban Meyer, who's on our show last hour, has shut down any rumors of returning. So let's just say this. Let's do a little hypothetical. Don't love doing that little hypothetical. Let's say Ohio State loses. I don't think they will unless they play Tennessee. It could go either way. But let's say they lose in the first round of the 12 team playoff. Okay, for the record, I don't think that'll happen. And then let's say they fire Ryan Day. I don't think that would happen and I wouldn't do that because I do think he's in that second, third tier of coaches that you just probably shouldn't fire. But, but let me ask you, who's big enough for the job? Chip Kelly hates recruiting and is Ryan Day's best friend. He's probably not taking it. Mike Vrabel has on podcasts, kind of rolled his eyes at the current NIL transfer portal Recruiting doesn't love it. Bill Belichick, give me a break. So, I mean, Urban Meyer, who again has had health scares, he likes what he's doing. He's making a big living. He's good at what he's doing. So I don't think Ohio State, I think Ohio State, Oregon and Texas are the three teams I think can win a national championship. So if you're buying stock, I would buy Buckeye stock. Now, you know, everybody wanted Ryan Day fired on the Reddit board. What happens if he wins three straight games in the playoff? But I think this job is so big. And because Ryan Day had never been a head coach, the guy they hire, if they fire him, they'll go with an experienced head coach. You tell me who's on the market. The one name I would think of is Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly went south, kind of did a hokey, fakie, inauthentic Southern accent, has never really perfectly fit. And I actually think he would come back North. He was in Notre Dame, got good recruiting ties and he's coached a lot of north, not much Southern recruiting. And it's been a weird fit at lsu. And let's be honest, if he has a bad year, next year they'll fire him. So I mean, that, that is one. Maybe you keep your eye on Ryan Day for a year and if it doesn't work, you go get Brian Kelly. That's what I would do. If you're gonna fire Ryan Day, which I wouldn't. But, you know, the criticism of him is, well, kind of like Mark Richt in Georgia. He'd never been a head coach. He's good, not great. Those all may be true. Albert Breer, who went to Ohio State, NFL Insider talked a little about Ryan Day and the Buckeyes. I think every coach who's coached at Ohio State feels the pressure. But how do you approach the pressure? Do you think the pressure is a burden? Do you feel like you're a victim of the pressure, or do you think the pressure's a privilege? I love Ryan as a person, as a coach. Like, I just. I wonder sometimes, like, do you fully embrace it? Do you fully embrace the terms of employment? Yeah, it's rough. I've always felt Ohio State is the only SEC team up north. It's, you know, I mean, they fired John Cooper, who was winning 10, 11 games a year because he couldn't beat Michigan. And that passion is why it's the best football program. Not Michigan, it's. Ohio State is the best football program north in America. The other best programs are, you know, it's better than Notre Dame. It's better than Michigan. Historically, it's the best program. And, you know, the duality of those crazy fans is they overreact massively. Ryan Day is a very good coach. He does not appear to be, at this point in his life, a great coach. Although I do think, you know, Brian Kelly, as he was growing as a coach, he was doing it not at Ohio State or Notre Dame. So what happened is when Brian Kelly gets the job at Notre Dame, he's a fully formed head coach. He'd been. He'd been doing this. He's made a lot of mistakes that none of you watched. The games weren't on television or you weren't watching them. So with Ryan Day, when he makes young coaching mistakes, it's Ohio State. They're on every game except the Youngstown State games on television somewhere nationally. So that's the downside to getting a young whiz, you know, like Lincoln Riley's first head coaching job at Oklahoma. I mean, everybody watches Oklahoma on Saturday. So if you make any mistakes, everybody notices it. When you take the Urban. Nobody was watching Urban Meyer at Bowling Green, and very few people. I was one of them were watching the Utah games. And then he goes to Florida, and you're watching. You're like, this guy's a great coach. He made a lot of mistakes the first two places he went. So Ryan Day doesn't get that pass. The mistakes he makes, you're watching them. It's why I always say this to parents who were like, oh, I want my kid to get a job at Fox. And I'm like, well, where have they worked in tv? Well, they haven't. Then go to Midland, Texas and make mistakes. Because I don't have any interest your kid being on my show behind the scenes and making a mistake. This is not a first job, right? So like go make mistakes. Take the steps you start. You start missing steps in any journey and they will. You don't want your first job to be a high profile job. You want to make mistakes. And Ryan Day's first gig, this is it. He wasn't even a coordinator for that long and he got the job. I mean, I would argue outside of Texas, I think Ohio State's the second best job in the country. I wouldn't want to coach in the sec. It's too crazy. But I think Texas isn't the South. It's got a little western flair. I think Austin, Texas, the donors, the money, the brand, I think Texas is the best job. Also. They have the best athletic director in the country. I think there's a real argument Ohio State is in a short list of number two. I would take it over Alabama. I'd rather live in Columbus. I would take it over a lot of jobs. Lsu, I take it over a lot of them. So it's just when everybody wants their kids to get the job sooner and it's like, man, when you skip steps and you take a big job at any company, everybody's watching, you're much better. Served to be patient. Make mistakes when nobody watches. That's what Brian Kelly did for years before Notre Dame. J. Mac. There's two big games this weekend. I like Oregon to beat Penn State and I like Texas to beat Georgia. What say you?
J. Mac
So I think Penn State's going to keep it close. Would not shock me if they pulled the upset, but I bet them plus three and a half. So I do think Oregon's a better team.
Questlove
Yes.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
J. Mac
Now, what was the other game you have smu?
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no, that's. That's.
J. Mac
Oh, Texas, Georgia. So the problem with this game A, it's a rematch. And there's the revenge angle for Texas. Getting your butt kicked at home. And do you remember what your lead in was that that week it was like, this is the biggest game in Texas football history. And like the hype machine and they got just steamrolled. We could see this matchup A third time in the playoffs.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
J. Mac
And I'm very curious how both coaches attack this game. I will go Georgia just because of the trenches and I think they're super dangerous. But Carson Beck, he's had so many chances on big spots this year.
Colin Cowherd
Well, you know, I just. There's a bunch of new things happening in College football. The 12 team playoff starts December 20, the nil and the portal. And so these things have all converged and there's a couple of things we have learned. One of the things, the unintended benefits of it, of the transfer portal and the nil. And there's been some downsides, but the unintended benefit is that it's cherry picked. Very good backups from Georgia and Texas and Oklahoma's and Ohio states. So whereas the big schools can go buy the best players on the market, no question. But they lose depth because the backups to those players who are often four and five star players, they're going to go to Wake Forest, Louisville, Purdue, smu, some of these well heeled schools with boosters, they'll go buy your backups. So what happens as the college football season is now extended and it looks more like an NFL schedule? Players, more players get hurt. And these Ohio states don't have good backups. And Clemson, not a big portal team. But, but, but a lot of these good teams like Georgia and Ohio State, they don't have like four legit running backs and three legit left tackles. So that's where everybody complains about nil in the Portal. But it is, it is made. It has given us, I mean, two lost teams and three lost teams can now make the playoffs. You lose in September and October, it's not punitive. Right. It's like you can lose twice. Bama's, Bama's got three losses. They're going to get in blazing five coming up next. This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Now here's the kicker. The PayPal debit card earns you 5% cash back in a monthly category of your Choice. Up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. So groceries, health and beauty, gas, apparel, restaurants. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Instacart, Sephora. This month, it's all about that apparel. I got a crazy schedule. I shop online a lot, snag a suit here or there, fresh gear. 5% cash back adds up fast. And signing up is easy. Just Download the new PayPal app to sign up and you're ready to start earning cash. Back on your everyday purchases. Pay Smart Earn Cash Back Enjoy peace of mind with a PayPal debit card. Don't just pay. PayPal terms apply. See PayPal app cash back Earned as points you can redeem for cash and other options. This card issued by the Bancorp and a pursuant to license by MasterCard International.
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Episode: Hour 1 - Dan Campbell's Decision
Release Date: December 6, 2024
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Description: The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day. In this episode, Colin delves deep into Dan Campbell's recent decisions for the Detroit Lions, analyzes broader NFL strategies, and offers insights into coaching dynamics and player performances.
The episode kicks off with Colin Cowherd welcoming listeners and setting the stage for a comprehensive discussion on recent NFL events, focusing primarily on the Detroit Lions and their head coach, Dan Campbell.
Colin initiates the conversation by dissecting Dan Campbell's approach during a critical Lions vs. Packers game.
Aggressive Fourth Down Strategy:
Implications for the Lions:
Quote:
"You're no longer the hunter, you're the hunted. You're now IBM. You're not a startup company." (03:45)
Colin provides a thorough evaluation of the Lions' current roster and their trajectory.
Roster Strengths:
Challenges Ahead:
Quote:
"Detroit is entering a San Francisco 49er stage where we kind of feel like, oh, this is the best roster in the league." (12:10)
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the Green Bay Packers and their quarterback, Jordan Love.
Jordan Love's Development:
Team Dynamics:
Quote:
"Green Bay is a stock, and it is just going up, up, up. And I think it's one year away, maybe not. Maybe they shock the world." (13:19)
Colin transitions to a broader analysis of coaching philosophies and their impact on team performance.
Contrast Between Aggressive and Conservative Coaching:
Future of NFL Coaching:
Quote:
"Playing it safe is Michigan against Penn State. Second half, never throwing the ball, not going for it when you can, for 43 seconds left, take the lead is not playing it safe. It's playing it reasonable." (11:50)
The episode delves into individual player performances and their contributions to team success.
Jared Goff's Consistency:
Detroit's Defensive Play:
Quote:
"And so, Detroit went, you know, from up 10 to down 4, and you're like, oh. And it was a heavyweight fight. They were the last one standing." (41:04)
Colin offers predictions and insights into upcoming NFL events and strategies.
Impact of Short-term Strategies on Long-term Success:
Potential for Detroit and Green Bay in the Playoffs:
Quote:
"This team has entered the Niner stage. Four to five years of wow, blowing a lot of people out. Enough great players where they don't have to play all their starters can miss several starters and beat an excellent team." (15:19)
Colin wraps up the episode by reiterating the strengths and challenges of the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers. He emphasizes the importance of strategic flexibility, coaching excellence, and player development in determining the season's outcome.
"So last night, Green Bay gets the ball in the second half to start. Touchdown. Interception. Touchdown. So Detroit went, you know, from up 10 to down 4, and you're like, oh." (41:04)
Colin Cowherd on Aggressive Strategies:
"You're no longer the hunter, you're the hunted. You're now IBM. You're not a startup company." (03:45)
Colin on Green Bay Packers:
"Green Bay is a stock, and it is just up, up, up. And I think it's one year away, maybe not. Maybe they shock the world." (13:19)
Colin on Reasonable Risk:
"Playing it safe is Michigan against Penn State. Second half, never throwing the ball, not going for it when you can, for 43 seconds left, take the lead is not playing it safe. It's playing it reasonable." (11:50)
Colin on Team Resilience:
"This team has entered the Niner stage. Four to five years of wow, blowing a lot of people out. Enough great players where they don't have to play all their starters can miss several starters and beat an excellent team." (15:19)
Dan Campbell's Aggressive Strategy: While effective in certain scenarios, maintaining a balance between aggression and conservatism is crucial for long-term success.
Detroit Lions' Strengths: A deep roster with players entering their prime positions the Lions as serious contenders in the NFL.
Green Bay Packers' Potential: With Jordan Love maturing and the team's overall cohesion, the Packers are on the brink of becoming Super Bowl contenders.
Coaching Philosophies Matter: The episode underscores the significant impact that coaching decisions and styles have on a team's performance and adaptability.
Future Predictions: Both Detroit and Green Bay are poised for strong playoff performances, with strategic decisions and player development playing pivotal roles.
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, listeners receive an in-depth analysis of the Detroit Lions under Dan Campbell, contrasting coaching strategies across the NFL, and a promising outlook on the Green Bay Packers. Colin's insights provide a nuanced understanding of team dynamics, strategic decisions, and the delicate balance between short-term gains and long-term success in professional football.