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Adnan Virk
Not bad. You know, I'm, I'm only on episode six, so no spoilers for Landman. I don't want to know what happens yet, but this news, I, I don't know what to do with it, man.
Colin Cowherd
Let's not keep people waiting and holding their breath. Edward, respected journalist, says regarding Deion Sanders. Ed Werder says I'm being told he would certainly accept it if Jerry Jones offered the next cowboy coaching head coaching gig to him and that those around Jerry are encouraging him to pursue it and that Jones is enamored with the idea. Well, it would be interesting and splashy. And they're two showmen. And I think Jerry and Deon have a lot in common. They're performers. They'll take risks. And if you criticize him, they'll come on your show and talk about it. They don't shy away from risk. They welcome the spotlight. But Dallas is also two things today. Not very good and boring. So this falls in line with Jerry Jones personality, which is he likes to be seen as the man who discovered something. He loved getting Tony Romo at a discount. He was undrafted. He loved getting Dak Prescott at a discount. Right. Fourth rounder. And Deion Sanders, who we don't think of as the best coaching candidate, you'd probably. There's a little bit of discovery here and I think Jerry loves that. Jerry's DNA was an oil catter. Let's dig and see what we got down there. And Jerry in the NFL is a little bit like that. Let's see what we've got here. With undrafted Tony Romo and Deion Sanders as a head coach and Dak Prescott as a fourth rounder. So I'm, I don't know if Deion Sanders, prime time would be a great coach. Let's just be honest about his college football experience. He went 13 and 12 in two years with arguably the best college quarterback and without an argument. The Heisman Trophy winner who played both sides of the ball and in a bad conference, the big 12. It wasn't in the SEC. He wasn't. He, he wasn't even in the big 10 of the ACC. Is it is in the big 12. Went 13 and 12 and he got blown out a lot. And I, I will sell this, say this prime time can sell primetime and by proxy, he'll sell Dallas. But salesmanship is huge in College football. That's 75% of the game. Nick Saban was old, but he was young in the recruiting trail. He had energy and juice and swag and Dion's got a lot of that. But the Cowboys have no cap room and they're not going to trade Dakota. So how does he make them better? And my rule has always been, whenever you make a coaching move, what do your rivals say? What do you think the Philadelphia Eagles are saying this morning about this story? They're saying, well, Jerry likes the spotlight, so he'll get the spotlight. They're not saying, oh, damn, Vrabel is going to change that culture. Or last year, oh, boy. Jim Harbaugh wins everywhere and really fast. And he's coming from Michigan. He knows all those college players. There's no fear in the Philadelphia Eagles executive suite or locker room today with Deion Sanders. He's a showman who was a 500 coach in a bad conference in college. Now he took over a bad job. He was good for the sport. I was rooting for him. I think he's fun. But is Jerry going to win the spotlight, sacrificing, perhaps winning games? So Joel Klatt was on the show yesterday who played at Colorado, who hopes he stays primetime at Colorado, and he doesn't think necessarily the NFL is a great fit. I don't believe that Dallas is somehow a better destination. In fact, I view it opposite and I view this by this is not a Colorado and Dallas thing. This, this is also just an NFL versus college football. If you find the right fit in college football, where you're comfortable and, and you can win even in the Big 12, you're going to make a lot more money in the long run and have a lot more power in the long run than going to the NFL. Because even if the NFL can pay you more, maybe, maybe per year, that's going to be a short Runway and you have very little to no power. I don't think Dallas's issue was a coaching problem. I think it's a roster problem. It's really top heavy with a wildly overpaid quarterback and one great playmaker. And the Cowboys ended up, believe it or not, being too good to get a Great draft pick in a really, really okay draft. It's not a bad draft, but there's about seven to eight special players. And Dallas, actually McCarthy coached him up too well, and they don't have one of those top picks. And it's not a draft. And in my opinion, unless you could get the receiver T. Mac from Arizona or a Mason Graham or Carter, the edge rusher from Penn State, I'm not moving up for anybody else. I don't even. I don't even think I'm moving up for these quarterbacks. And, you know, Jerry's not getting rid of his quarterback. So what do you think the Eagles are saying today? Cause I got news for you. Once Jim Harbaugh was coming to the Chargers, I can guarantee the people in Kansas City were like, damn, Herbert finally got a coach. And I can guarantee you in Buffalo, with Mike Vrabel going to New England, you know what they're saying in Buffalo? Oh, he'll get that puppy turned around real fast. We got ourselves, we got ourselves a ball coach. I think Philly's saying, well, Jerry likes the spotlight. He's on Landman and he's got Dion, so he'll get that. Not saying he's going to fail, but there's some guarantees in the job search. I thought Vrabel was one of them this year and Harbaugh was one last year. I don't know what you get here. Okay, so it's interesting. You would think as the Kansas City Chiefs try to do something nobody's done in the NFL, three straight super bowl wins. They would, they would be kind of intimidating, but kind of daunting. But Sean Payton just said yesterday that when they went into the playoffs, they were actually more concerned about Buffalo and that if they could get past Buffalo, they like their chances against the Chiefs.
Jon Stewart
We're not looking backwards, we're looking ahead. And it starts with the division, you.
Colin Cowherd
Know, and there's a lot of confidence in this team. If we could get past that game, the next game we had to play.
Jon Stewart
We felt real good about.
Colin Cowherd
And that next game was going to be Kansas City. So I think actually Kansas City proves two things. And, and it's actually instructive for other teams. It's instructive and they prove two things. One, you don't have to be great at everything to win back to back Super Bowls. Kansas City's receiving corps the last two years, a lot of Hammond Eggers. It's just a lot of guys now. Now Reed and Mahomes take a D plus group and make It a C plus group, so it's not terrible. But. But you don't have to be great at everything. The one but if you're terrible at anything, Joe Burrows O lines, you're not winning Super Bowls. The one time Mahomes didn't have his starting offensive tackles in the super bowl, Super Bowl 55, he got rolled, he got humiliated. The coaching is too good in the NFL you do not have to be great at everything. You can't be terrible at. I mean, there were years Brady didn't have a great run game, but James White was one of the best pass catching running backs in the league. So they may not have had a superstar running back, but their backs could catch and block and protect. And so that's the first thing. You do not have to be great at everything to win Super Bowls. Can't be terrible at anything. And the second thing is you really only have to be elite at about four or five things. Head coach, quarterback. You gotta have a dominant defensive person up front somewhere. Edge, Chris Jones, Aaron Donald. Got to have a dominant defensive lineman. You have to have an above average offensive line and some reliable playmaker. It can be Saquon Barkley, it can be Gronk and Julian Edelman. It could be a tight end, a slot receiver. You have to have a third down go to guy for the quarterback. They're not all going to be as good as Jamar Chase, but Puka Nukua, Saquon Barkley, you know, Travis Kelsey, you got to have one of those. So the Colts and the Seahawks, by the way, I think have excellent rosters, but they're not great at key positions. And so Kansas City fools you into thinking this is not a great team. They're great where you need to be in the NFL. So they're very instructive. They don't intimidate you. But if you go back and look at New England, they are Kansas City, great coach, great quarterback, always above average offensive lines. Always had somebody that could get after the quarterback. They often led the NFL in hurries. And there was one reliable playmaker often too. It was James White at a receiver spot out of the backfield. It was Gronk for a couple years. It was Randy Moss. It was often Welker or Edelman. There was always one guy Tom knew he had on third down and that is Travis Kelsey. So you know, it's like, it's like the restaurant menu. Not everything has to be great, get stuff off it that's terrible. And you got to be good at two or three Things in and out, don't like their fries, burgers and shakes. They crush. So I think a lot of people look at Kansas City and doubt them, but they're a very instructive team taking that baton from New England. So, Deion Sanders to the Dallas Cowboys. J. Mac, your initial reaction? Prime Time wants it if it's offered. Jerry is enamored with it and may offer it. Do you think it comes to fruition?
Adnan Virk
I mean, you got to respect Ed Werder. He's been doing this, covering the team for a long time. I just have a hard time seeing Dion doing this. Is it you talked about? Is it a good job? Is the Dallas.
Colin Cowherd
Well, if you look at the Jackson State to Colorado, Dallas Cowboys, that's a very noteworthy ascension. Yeah. Yeah. So it is a great job. Now, if you're coaching, if you're Sark or Ryan Day, if Ryan Day won the Natty. I look at the Dallas Cowboys and think, I'm going to wait until I get a rookie quarterback on a rookie deal or I get a Justin Herbert or a C.J. stroud. So, again, what is your job if you go from Jackson State? I mean, Dion was just broadcasting and speaking and he was great at it. It was great broadcaster and a good public speaker and all that stuff. Jackson State, Colorado, Dallas Cowboys, you take that job. I mean, if I was, if I was him, I would take that job.
Adnan Virk
I'll be honest here. You know, Michael Irvin, we talked to him during the break when he's on the show, and he's just like, upset that we're saying this is not a good job. Straight up honesty. Colin, Jacksonville calls you and says, we want you to be our head coach. We got Trevor Lawrence, your show. Colin, Jerry Jones calls you and says, hey, come on down, Colin, we want you as the coach.
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no.
Adnan Virk
Because from a football perspective, you can win with Jacksonville much sooner than Dallas.
Colin Cowherd
But I think Deion Sanders now, because he's had some modicum of success at Colorado Views, this is more than just a football job. It is brand enabling. It, it, it. By the way, let's say he goes there and he's okay. He could walk into another great TV gig. He could maybe say, you know what, I want to be a part owner somewhere. I want to do a little upstairs stuff. I mean, it would give him more options. We always felt this with Colorado. There's a pretty low ceiling and a pretty low floor like Colorado is. Can be really bad and rarely great. I mean, I couldn't tell you the last time they were great.
Adnan Virk
He put him back on the map. Basically.
Colin Cowherd
He put them on the map, but he didn't put him on the best part of the map.
Adnan Virk
But maybe that's not what he wants. Maybe he wants the branding. I don't know what Dion wants. Does he want the branding or does he want to win Super Bowls?
Colin Cowherd
What do the Eagles think today? Are they terrified?
Adnan Virk
I don't think they're the least bit.
Colin Cowherd
Worried and that's always been my rule on it. What do your rivals think when you hire somebody? The Kansas City Chiefs are a dynasty and they looked at Harbaugh and Herbert and thought, oh boy, wish he would have taken that Jacksonville job because Harbaugh wins immediately everywhere. And even this year, Chargers match that with Kansas City pretty, pretty well.
Adnan Virk
If you're Washington, I don't even think you're quaking in your boots.
Colin Cowherd
You got Jaden Daniels if you're Washington. You didn't want Vrabel going to Dallas. There you go. You didn't want that. You didn't want Harbaugh going to Dallas. You didn't necessarily want Belichick going to Dallas. You can live with prime time. And again, we're not saying he can't coach, but we're saying it's unproven and what his strength is. Showmanship doesn't matter in the NFL. In college, players select you in the NFL, you select them. It doesn't matter. I mean, Belichick's grumpy. Who? It doesn't matter. It has no I mean many of the great coaches have been rough around the edges, have not been showman, have been gruff. Tom Coughlin, he won in college, but he was okay in college. Tom Coughlin was a great he's a Hall of Fame coach in the NFL. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Omaha Steaks is America's original butcher and has been bringing people together with the world's best steak experience for more than 100 years of family owned experience. From handcrafted steaks to hearty roasts, family style sides and quick, convenient comfort meals, Omaha Steaks delivers everything you crave to reset and relax after the holidays. And now during their end of season sale, you can taste the difference and get 50% off site wide@omahasteaks.com plus our listeners get an extra 20 bucks off with a promo code heard at checkout. Omaha Steaks offers unrivaled quality and variety and every bite is backed by their 100% guarantee. They also carry mouthwatering burgers, chicken, pork, seafood, dessert and easy to prepare comfort food. Bring home the world's best steak experience with omaha steaks. Visit omaha steaks.com for 50% off site wide during their end of season sale and for an extra 20 bucks off with a promo code heard at checkout. That's 50% off@omahastakes.com and for an extra $20 off with a promo code, herd at checkout. Hi, it's Colin JLab Audio is changing the audio game for good, producing some of the best earbuds and headphones designed for everyday life without breaking the bank. And they are made in the same location as some of the other popular earbuds on the market that are triple the price. Don't overpay for quality headphones and earbuds, I don't for those looking to conquer their fitness goals in 2025, JLab recommends the JBuds Sport ANC4, offering a secure fit and super long battery life for those tough workouts. For small ears, check out the JBuds Mini, so small they fit in your keychain so you're never without headphones. And if you're looking to zone out with a podcast or get in the zone at the office, check out their active noise canceling headphones. It's a true luxury feel. Discover your perfect pair of headphones just like I did and upgrade your audio game today. Look for the JLAB Blue Box at retailers everywhere or visit jlab.com youm can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com heap and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months.
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Adnan Virk
Just because it's, it's.
Colin Cowherd
Do you think if you think that you are just a quarterback away then you go try and find a quarterback that you think can take you over the top? Yeah. And I think fairly J Mac I people I've talked to see Aaron as middle of the pack in the NFL right now at best 13th, 4th, 12th. 13th best at worst 16th, 17th. I, I would take Baker Mayfield today over and Sam Darnold over Aaron but Aaron had a good, mostly good last seven, eight weeks and I do think for Pittsburgh it would be a decent fit. He's a grown up, he could learn the playbook quickly. But the Steelers have been, you know, putting band aids on for six years. I think they have to rip it off. I, I would trade T.J. watt, George Pickens, two first round picks if your scouting department said Shador Sanders is the guy because I think Cam Ward's going to go number one. I think Shador Sam Sanders you could get at number Five, six or seven. But the Steelers, what's interesting is they're in the same predicament they were in 2022, where they need a quarterback and it's a lousy quarterback draft and they settled for Kenny Pickett. And I said at the time, I reported at the time, I had talked to an NFL general manager with super bowl rings who said he's a third rounder. I talked to another general manager who had been to a Super bowl, had not won one, and he said he's a mid to late third rounder, but they had to reach. So, you know, the most proactive franchise in the NFL for quarterbacks is indisputably Green Bay. They draft them and sit them for years. You know, these guys. Pittsburgh has not drafted an elite quarterback since Big Ben, and that was 21 years ago. So. And there's a reason the packers have not had a quarterback shortage for three decades. They draft, hold, develop, and then star. So I, I, the truth is, I don't know if Aaron's the answer, but he may be the solution for a year. But I think the Steelers, they treat quarterback a little like a New Year's resolution. They're all gung ho about it, you know, but by like late February, you're no longer going to the gym. And by late November, the Steelers aren't really a viable team. It sounds good, there's a lot of hope and optimism, but you're not going to the gym by late February. You don't even drive by anymore. I would trade T.J. watt, George Pickens, two first rounders and go get Chadur Sanders if you think he's a starting quarterback. Nobody that I talked to in the league thought Kenny Pickett was a starter, backup, you know, homegrown kid. But proactive is the, is the way to do it. I mean, remember Kansas City moved up, gave away picks. They had a Pro bowl quarterback in Alex Smith and, you know, Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco made a lot of money and won a lot of games in Baltimore, and they went and got Lamar Jackson. So I think you got to take a big swing on this thing if you want to go find the next Big Ben. And Big Ben was a good prospect out of Miami, of Ohio. People knew Big Ben could play big, strong, mobile, and he delivered, got him to Super Bowls. But I don't you say whatever you want about Aaron to me. There's two teams in this league, primarily the Steelers, that are a quarterback away. Well, three, the Colts, the Seahawks and the Steelers, if you got the right Quarterback. They're pretty interesting teams, but there is no recent history to make me believe that Pittsburgh would get aggressive. Seattle Colts kind of think they would. Pittsburgh? I don't. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Heard on the news. This is the Herd line news.
Adnan Virk
All right, let's start with the best matchup of divisional weekend, Ravensville. Lamar versus Josh Allen. Both MVP candidates were taken in the first round of the 2018 draft. And while we've seen Allen hang with his quarterback counterparts in the offseason, Lamar keeps things all business.
Colin Cowherd
I don't really chill with people offseason, like, especially my other quarterbacks. Like nothing. Like. Like, don't get me wrong, there's no problem. Nothing like that. But it's like we competing against each other. Like, I'm trying to beat you. I'm not trying to be your friend. When we older, we'll probably laugh about it, but right now it's serious. I ain't laughing with you. Can't wait. I still like Buffalo. Vegas likes Baltimore.
Adnan Virk
But wait a minute. What about that take from Lamar Jackson? We're competing. I can't be friends with you. What?
Colin Cowherd
Well, that's the way I like that. I don't want my quarterbacks to like each other.
Adnan Virk
Competing with Josh Allen. Competing with the Bills defense. Well, coming after him and Josh Allen, they're not on the field tackling one another. Like, I just think that.
Colin Cowherd
I think. I think when you play Lamar or Josh Allen and Mahomes, you are competing against each other. I think Barkley and MJ in the finals were competing different.
Adnan Virk
That's different. They could get matched up one on one in the pain in a post office.
Colin Cowherd
When you're talking about legacy and contracts and trophies.
Adnan Virk
Be friendly to the person and hang.
Colin Cowherd
Out in the office, not during the game.
Adnan Virk
You just told me you went to lunch with another radio host. What's going on? Yeah, competing.
Colin Cowherd
I would never speak to him, acknowledge him, if he was in the studio during a show. Oh, geez. I don't. I don't mind my quarterbacks being a little feisty and competitive. I don't have a problem with that.
Adnan Virk
It's a brotherhood, man.
Colin Cowherd
Come on. My locker room's a brotherhood. Your. Your locker room is your problem.
Adnan Virk
No, they're all football players. They're all buddies. They should be friendly. I just don't. I don't like this.
Colin Cowherd
You don't even believe that they should all be friendly.
Adnan Virk
I mean, unless you're a jerk. But by all accounts, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are nice guys. Well liked. But Lamar definitely is not in the hanging out with Patrick Mahomes. Going to Lake Tahoe and Steph Curry's golf tournament.
Colin Cowherd
I like that. I like that in the off season he's not available. Remember the Brady stuff when you saw text about Peyton Manning, Everybody's like, oh, Brady and Manning are buddies. And Brady's like, yeah, not really. I'm competing against Peyton Manning. I think I like Lamar Jackson's like, you guys go hang out and get golf tournaments. I'm going to be over here getting my traps improved.
Adnan Virk
Oh yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, definitely. So I did make a wager here on this game. By the way, have you laid anything on this one?
Colin Cowherd
I will tell you, Philadelphia is the best pick of the weekend. As long as the numbers five and a half, six.
Adnan Virk
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
We both had winning weeks last week.
Adnan Virk
You're going to sit on the fence on the game of the week.
Colin Cowherd
You know what, MVP quarterback, I would, I would bet Buffalo plus points at home. I think that's the side. I think it's a much deeper, more diverse offensive menu. I got backs, tight ends, receivers, Zay Flowers. Not practicing again. Yeah, so. So it comes down to I'm on the road against Buffalo. It's me and Derrick Henry. Is Derrick Henry going to duplicate the effort I just saw? Doubtful. I don't know. I just. I think if I have two offensive stars, two and a half Mark Andrews and right now, if you look at yards per play, all the analytic stats like Buffalo can beat you for five different ways. Offensively, James Cook, Josh Allen, the slot receiver down the field, tight end usage.
Adnan Virk
With Zay Flower out, who's the best two pass catchers in this game?
Colin Cowherd
The tight ends, Kincaid and Andrews. I mean, I think they're very reliable players now.
Adnan Virk
I almost think the Bills have better skill position guys. It's like Cook and Henry's close, but it's, it's probably Henry. But Cook's gonna catch passes.
Colin Cowherd
Cook is. Cook gets into the end zone. I think he's a top five running back in the league. I don't think he's as good as Gibbs. He's not as dynamic as Gibbs. He's not as. He doesn't have the pass catching skills of Christian McCaffrey. He's not the bulldozer of Derrick Henry. But in terms of just can do a little bit of everything and can smell the end zone. James Cook's great.
Adnan Virk
Yeah, yeah. Like him a lot. Next up is the Rams defensive line. Showed up big against the Vikings tying in the NFL record with nine sacks on your guy Sam Darnold in that 279 victory. This week they're facing the Eagles awesome offense. Right tackle Lane Johnson spoke to the task at hand saying if you watch the Minnesota game it was a bleeping horn horror show. Thank goodness Aaron Donald isn't still there. Boy you got some numbers here. Fisk has been a beast. Kobe Turner, Byron Young of course verse.
Colin Cowherd
Do they they have their last two drafts. They're like 6 for 6 on their high end defensive draft picks. They're all excellent.
Adnan Virk
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
They have not missed on a defensive draft pick in two or three years.
Adnan Virk
Now the Eagles did allow 45 sacks this season and I was reading some about how the Rams play a lot of zone coverage. Yeah and Jalen hurts tends to hold on to the ball just a tick too long and that it does invite some sacks. Now AJ Brown we know kills man defense. Devonte Smith is his guy against zone. So I wonder if AJ Brown going to be unhappy again facing this Rams defense. Maybe if he checks out all of a sudden then he's like oh let's.
Colin Cowherd
Let'S just think of a couple of things. Warm weather team on a short week traveling to a cold weather city. Running back who will be needed not 100%. What happened off a game in which they played virtually perfect football. Does that sound like a team that's gonna double down on that Eagles a much better team at home coming off an ugly performance in which they won. I, I, I'll say this about the Rams. Their defense is outstanding and I think the game's a low scoring game. I think both defenses I I, I really think this game is like 2317 ish in that ball. It's not high scoring. You're not going to load up on that. You're not going to score a lot of points on the Rams. I mean they've been great for a month and a half and I, you know the Rams against the Bills or against the Vikings they look if you don't watch the Rams every week and you just watch those two games, high profile game. The Bill game got a big rating and Viking game got a big rating but you didn't watch the Rams beyond that. You think their offense is electric. Now those are the two games. It was electric there. You and I both talked about this. They struggled moving the ball in the first half against teams like the Jets.
Adnan Virk
So those two games you mentioned were both indoors. I looked at the outdoor games.
Colin Cowherd
They're not the same.
Adnan Virk
Especially look at the first half numbers very Slow start. So I took the under 22 and a half first half.
Colin Cowherd
I think that's a really smart bet. In fact, that could be the best bet of the weekend.
Adnan Virk
Yeah, the Rams come out kind of slow and plotting, and McVeigh's feeling them out. But look at the outdoor splits. Don't just look at the indoor. Because if, like you said, if you look at that Bills game, you're like, oh, my gosh, Rams can score anyway. This is going to be like 25, 30 degrees outdoors. Different story. Final story here. A lot of Bill Belichick speculation. Colin. Oh, the $10 million buyout. He could go back to the league. However, his GM at unc, Michael Lombardi, wants everybody to pump the brakes he put on social media. Bill is recruiting in D.C. today and Baltimore tomorrow. His focus is North Carolina football, hiring staff members and developing the team. The NFL isn't an option, so please stop making it one. Thank you.
Colin Cowherd
Well, I think. I think the chances of him staying in college for a year with Philadelphia and Buffalo both winning this weekend are probably the 98%, 99%.
Adnan Virk
So Eagles lose. Does Howie Roseman.
Colin Cowherd
He. Does he call him? Probably.
Adnan Virk
So here's.
Colin Cowherd
I'm not saying they'd hire him. I say they call him. I thought if Buffalo or Philly lost in first round, I said, that's Bill's out. They both won, and I think they're both going to win in week two.
Adnan Virk
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
So that tells me Bill is. Again, new information now. I think Bill's going to stay at Carolina for a year. But I did think if Buffalo got beat by Bo Nix, they were gonna. There was gonna be big discussions in the executive suite of Buffalo about McDermott.
Adnan Virk
Well, the interesting angle to that is there weren't many hires until the latter part of this past weekend. Remember Sunday, Lombardi put stuff out there after the results were.
Colin Cowherd
That's right.
Adnan Virk
I'm not calling out Lombardi. Don't tweet at me, Mike.
Colin Cowherd
The minute those two jobs closed, then Mike Lombardi in Carolina aggressively pivoted to. We are not considering the NFL. And I now believe them.
Adnan Virk
Yeah, I'm sure they were lining stuff up, getting guys ready, but you're not going to bring on a bunch of coaches. They pulled some guys out of the NFL.
Colin Cowherd
Let me just ask you, North Carolina or coaching Josh Allen?
Adnan Virk
Well, that's. That's not an option, brother.
Colin Cowherd
That's not close. It could have been an option. That's right.
Adnan Virk
But it wasn't. And so, yeah, I'm with this guy Lombardi who we both know a little bit.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Listen, I, I want to watch Bill. I want to see Bill in college. It's a pro model, which Saban mostly did, but it still felt collegiate with Nick. But it's a pro model in college to an the nth degree. So I'm fascinated by it. And I do think now Bill will stay, but you and I both had the same feeling. Philadelphia's roster and Josh Allen.
Adnan Virk
You have to at least take a call.
Colin Cowherd
You have to take Josh Allen. And Buffalo called you and they got beat. You're not picking it up.
Adnan Virk
Well, as a Jets fan, I'm not picking up. Just kidding. But yeah, he would have certainly listened.
Colin Cowherd
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Seven of the eight quarterbacks remaining in the NFL playoffs are first round picks, and then there's Jalen Hurts. So the exception proves the rule. The outlier proves the rule. Tom Brady's your outlier or in this instance, Jalen Hurts is the outlier. But the bottom line is quarterback coaching and quarterback recruiting and quarterback scouting, those are industries. Now it is the only position in pro football that is regularly overdrafted. Take the Colts. This year, this draft, they sat patiently and waited for the best edge rusher to drop to them. Best edge rusher. And they needed one. And it's a valuable position. They waited patiently the year before the Colts reached to get a quarterback. In fact, if you look at the 2021 draft, there were five quarterbacks taken in the top 15 picks. We're not sold on any of them. Find me a draft. Recently we had five wide receivers taken in the first 15 picks and we don't like any of them. So it's just a position that you reach on. And I was looking at all the quarterbacks and I thought it was interesting as the only quarterback not in the first round is Jalen Hurt. So I thought, well, let's just rank the quarterbacks that remain in the NFL. So number one is Mahomes. He's won seven straight playoff games. 6, 0. All time in the divisional round. I don't think anybody doubts he is the best play from behind big game quarterback in the NFL. I mean you get a little Elway, you know, cognitively you get Peyton Manning and Brady, accuracy wise you get Drew Brees. He's probably in my opinion the greatest quarterback talent of all time. Josh Allen also in the top two or three, but he's number one. Number two. And I think there's an argument that Josh Allen's the most pure talented traits player at this position ever. He doesn't have the trophies yet. He is 1 in 3 all time in the divisional round. But he has the most yards per game, total yards per game in playoff history. He is Superman. He can literally rush for 140 yards in the game. That's not what Mahomes is going to give you. So Josh Allen is number two. Lamar, who's not viewed quite as successful once you get into January and February as Allen or Mahomes have been. But he does lead the NFL in yards and pass attempts and yards per carry this season. So what I would say with him is he is just an all time unicorn, a one of one talent that is a little different. There's a little Michael Vick, there's a little Steve Young, there's a lot of Lamar Jackson. He's just different. We've never had a quarterback play like this, this style, this good. Lamar Jackson, I think number four and one of the Last great pocket passers. Matt Stafford. He throws about the prettiest football we have seen in a long time. Last eight games this year, he's been on fire seven and one. He needs a good offensive line and protection unlike the first three quarterbacks. He's not going to ad lib with his feet. But if you look at his playoff record since he joined the Rams, it's five. One with a Super bowl trophy and a passer rating, getting up near 119. Number six. I'm sorry, guys. Jared Goff is great and you just gotta own it. First number one pick in a draft, been to a Super bowl with the LA Rams. And right now Jared Goff, who again is the best pocket passer in the league in his prime. You can say all you want, but he's 14 and one in his last 15 games and in his last eight games and he's done this in his career. He's on a heater at the end of a season now, again, like Stafford, he needs some protection and it helps that the Lions and the Rams O lines were good, but I have Jared Goff at 5. We haven't a lot of information. We don't have a lot on Jaden Daniels. I would put Jaden Daniels at number six. I think this is about the best rookie quarterback I've seen since Elway and Andrew Luck. He is so good late in games. It just doesn't make sense. Poise, intelligence, mobility. I mean, look at this throw in the end zone. That's like his third, fourth guy he's looked at. He's just. Now, again, you could say Colin, he's better than Goff. Well, right now I would take golf in a big game because I've seen him win a lot of big games. But I put jaden Daniels at 6. C.J. stroud, who's very good but doesn't move around like a lot of the top guys. I'd have him at 7. He had a little bit of a sophomore slump and he tends to be better at home and warm weather. But he didn't have great protection this year. He still throws an absolutely beautiful football. He's.05 as an underdog this year. He has not shown, unlike Jaden Daniels, the ability to take an average roster and beat better teams. But what he can do is beat the teams he should and I think he's only going to get better. And then number eight of eight is the only second round pick of the final eight. Jalen hurts and how do I say that? Go ask Greg Cosell. This Is a running team. Josh Allen can run, so can Lamar. They pass too. This is a run team. Last five playoff games, he's been good. Eleven TDs, no picks. And again, the fact that I view him as probably the eighth best quarterback in the pocket. Leadership, top three or four intangibles, very high. But it's sitting in the pocket, trailing in a game. Gotta make throws into a cover, a nickel coverage or a dime coverage. I'd put him at eight. Now, some of you gonna argue C.J. stroud. I think C.J. stroud got his timing team into the playoffs without his two best receivers and a bad O line. Jalen hurts with two great receivers, arguably the best back in the league and the best O line arguably got his team in the playoff. So can you overcome? Jaden Daniels overcame. C.J. stroud overcame. Here's the other story today. So I, I have said that I think Aaron Glenn, what he has done in Detroit as the defensive coordinator, it's actually more impressive considering all the defensive injuries, Aiden Hutchinson out for most of the year. I think what Aaron Glenn has done is remarkable. I think Ben Johnson's a very good offensive coordinator. I just think the Lions are stacked offensively and a lot of guys could move the ball with these backs and that tight end and Amaran St. Brown and Panay Sewell in this offensive line. So Aaron Glenn. There is a stigma that has developed and I think it's justifiable. But Aaron Glenn says, yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm a defensive coach, not an offensive Coach. And here's Mr. Glenn. I'm a coach. I just happen to be on defense. I understand offense just as well as a number of people. So if you want to hire me.
Adnan Virk
You'Re going to hire a coach.
Colin Cowherd
You're not going to hire a defensive coach.
Jon Stewart
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Colin Cowherd
I'm going to talk to the defense. So, okay, I understand that and I appreciate that, but I don't think the narrative's wrong. There are two things to think about with defensive coaches once again this year. If you look at the top offensive lines in the NFL, graded overwhelmingly, Eagles, Broncos, Lions, Packers, Chiefs, Panthers, six of eight offensive lines last year, Eagles, Lions, Colts, Cowboys. Once again, Falcons. Remember, they had Arthur Smith offensive line coaches. If you look at the bottom of the NFL this year, Seattle, New England, Steelers, Raiders defensive coaches, your number one asset in this sport is quarterback. Why? I don't know. For whatever reason, and I've been on this for years, offensive coaches can Reboot and readjust. Look at Kansas City's done to their offensive line this year in season it was a mess. Eight weeks ago they moved a guard to left tackle Joe Tuney, so. Or is it right tackle? They moved to need to one of the tackles. So the point being is McVeigh's done this, Andy Reid's done this, Shanahan's done this, Sean Payton did it in Denver. Yet Mike Tomlin, we're on year seven, he can't figure out the offensive line in Pittsburgh. So that's the first thing I worry about. The number one asset in an organization is the quarterback. Offensive coaches are better with offensive lines. What about Belichick? The minute Dante Scarnecchia retired, many believe the best offensive line coach ever. The minute he retired, the O line regressed quickly and within two years it was a. A point of weakness. The second thing to consider, results, three of the four coaches remaining. Start looking at the final four head coaches remaining in the last three years. You know what you're finding? It's a lot of John Harbaugh and offensive coaches. I was looking at this morning last season, the final four coaches, three of four offensive coaches. The year before, four of four offensive coaches. The year before that, four of four offensive coaches. Even Zach Taylor got to a Super Bowl. So look at O line play. It's better with offensive coaches. And look at results. The winners at the end of these seasons seem like it's John Harbaugh and offensive coaches. And what's interesting is offensive coaches, Jim Harbaugh, andy Reid, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, Sean Payton are usually, usually pretty good, getting the defense right. But you see with some regularity defensive coaches really struggling to not be tone deaf on offense. The great offensive coaches, for whatever reasons, I mean, Sean Payton turned around the defense. If nothing else, he hired the right guy. So I do think I prefer offensive coaches now. D'Ameco, Ryan's, Sean McDermott, I think they're good. I think Aaron Glenn is very hireable. Mike Vrabel, I thought he was the best candidate this year. So it's not that I'm anti defensive coach, but there's a couple of factors you have to consider and also consider this one. There are no more rules that favor the defense in this league. Belichick jokes about that. He's right. More and more it's safety and protect. Offensive players, Greg Cosell, Jordan Schultz, both around the corner, live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd. Whether you're ordering wings for the game, whipping up a seven layer dip or ordering pizza. There's something about football that makes me want to eat. And this football season, Uber Eats has the best deals for me on game day food no matter what I'm craving from two for one Pizza to buy one get one Wings Uber Eats. We'll be dropping new deals each week all season long. I'm in Uber Eats, the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now for game day. Terms and conditions apply. See app for details.
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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 1: "Deion Sanders Might Be on the Move"
Release Date: January 16, 2025
In the premiere hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," the discussion revolves around the tantalizing possibility of Deion Sanders joining the Dallas Cowboys as their head coach. Host Colin Cowherd, alongside co-host Adnan Virk, delves deep into the implications of this potential move, analyzing the dynamics between Sanders and Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones, the impact on the team's roster, and the broader coaching landscape in the NFL.
Potential Coaching Move: Colin Cowherd opens the episode by discussing reports from respected journalist Ed Werder about Deion Sanders being a strong candidate for the Cowboys' head coaching position. Werder mentions that Jerry Jones is enthusiastic about the idea, stating, "I'm being told he would certainly accept it if Jerry Jones offered the next cowboy coaching head coaching gig to him" ([03:32] Colin Cowherd).
Showmanship and Leadership: Colin draws parallels between Sanders and Jones, highlighting their shared flair for showmanship and risk-taking. He notes, "They're performers. They'll take risks. And if you criticize him, they'll come on your show and talk about it" ([03:32] Colin Cowherd). This dynamic suggests that both figures thrive in the spotlight and are unafraid to make bold moves.
Coaching Credentials: Despite Sanders' charisma, Colin scrutinizes his coaching record, pointing out that Sanders led Colorado to a 13-12 record over two years—a modest achievement in the competitive Big 12 conference. He questions Sanders' readiness for the NFL, stating, "But salesmanship is huge in College football. That's 75% of the game." ([03:32] Colin Cowherd).
Team Composition and Roster Challenges: Colin expresses concerns about the Cowboys' current roster, emphasizing that the team is top-heavy with an overpaid quarterback and lacks depth in other key positions. He asserts, "The Cowboys ended up, believe it or not, being too good to get a Great draft pick in a really, really okay draft." ([03:32] Colin Cowherd).
Top NFL Quarterbacks: The conversation shifts to an in-depth analysis of the remaining quarterbacks in the NFL playoffs. Colin ranks them as follows:
Playoff Performances: Colin emphasizes the importance of playoff performance in evaluating quarterbacks, highlighting Mahomes' seven straight playoff wins and Josh Allen's record of "1 in 3 all-time in the divisional round." He remarks, "Josh Allen is number two. And I think there's an argument that Josh Allen's the most pure talented traits player at this position ever." ([46:25] Colin Cowherd).
Preference for Offensive Coaches: Colin argues that NFL teams performing well and winning Super Bowls tend to have offensive-minded coaches. He cites Andy Reid, Jim Harbaugh, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, and Sean Payton as examples of successful offensive coaches who have effectively managed their teams' offensive lines and key offensive positions.
Challenges for Defensive Coaches: In contrast, Colin expresses skepticism about defensive coaches, pointing out that defenses often struggle to adapt in the modern NFL. He states, "Defensive players, Greg Cosell, Jordan Schultz, both around the corner, live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd. Whether you're ordering wings for the game, whipping up a seven layer dip or ordering pizza" ([46:25] Colin Cowherd), emphasizing the shift towards offensive strategies in the league.
Impact on Team Performance: Colin highlights that teams with strong offensive coaching often secure better results, whereas defensive coaches may not have the same level of impact. He mentions, "The winners at the end of these seasons seem like it's John Harbaugh and offensive coaches." ([46:25] Colin Cowherd).
Belichick's Status: The discussion turns to the future of Bill Belichick, the legendary head coach of the New England Patriots. There is speculation about Belichick potentially returning to the NFL after a $10 million buyout.
Opinion on Belichick's Return: Colin and Adnan express doubt about Belichick's likelihood to return to the NFL, considering his current commitments in college football. Adnan remarks, "But I'm not picking up. Just kidding. But yeah, he would have certainly listened." ([34:21] Colin Cowherd).
Organizational Focus: Colin believes that organizations like Philadelphia and Buffalo winning their respective games will likely keep Belichick focused on college coaching rather than an NFL comeback. He concludes, "I think Bill is going to stay at Carolina for a year." ([33:21] Colin Cowherd).
Buffalo Bills vs. Opponent: Colin shares his betting pick for the weekend, favoring the Buffalo Bills with points. He argues that Buffalos' offensive depth, including players like James Cook and Josh Allen, gives them an edge. "[28:14] Colin Cowherd: I think it's a much deeper, more diverse offensive menu."
Rams vs. Eagles: The hosts analyze the upcoming Rams vs. Eagles game, predicting a low-scoring affair due to the Rams' strong defense and the Eagles' tendency to hold the ball too long, potentially inviting sacks. Colin suggests, "I think this game is like 2317 ish in that ball. It's not high scoring." ([29:00] Colin Cowherd).
Defensive Line Performance: Highlighting the Rams' defensive prowess, particularly their recent performance against the Vikings with nine sacks, Colin underscores the importance of a strong defensive line in controlling game outcomes. He states, "The Rams have their last two drafts. They're like 6 for 6 on their high end defensive draft picks. They're all excellent." ([30:24] Colin Cowherd).
Steelers' Quarterback Situation: The Steelers' ongoing quarterback dilemma is discussed, with Colin critiquing the lack of elite quarterback prospects and expressing skepticism about potential moves, such as trading T.J. Watt and George Pickens for a player like Shador Sanders.
Detroit Lions' Defensive Strategy: Colin praises Aaron Glenn's work as the Lions' defensive coordinator, especially given the injuries and challenges faced during the season. He remarks, "Aaron Glenn says, yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm a defensive coach, not an offensive Coach. And here's Mr. Glenn. I'm a coach. I just happen to be on defense." ([46:27] Colin Cowherd).
As the episode wraps up, Colin Cowherd reiterates his main points on Deion Sanders' potential move to the Cowboys, the importance of offensive coaching in the NFL, and his quarterback rankings. He invites listeners to tune in for live editions and upcoming discussions on coaching changes, team performances, and more insights into the NFL landscape.
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"Jerry's DNA was an oil cat.' Let's dig and see what we've got down there." ([03:32] Colin Cowherd)
"Aaron Glenn says, yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm a defensive coach, not an offensive Coach." ([46:25] Colin Cowherd)
"I think Bill Belichick is going to stay at Carolina for a year." ([33:21] Colin Cowherd)
Hour 1 of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" provides a comprehensive look into the potential coaching moves within the NFL, particularly focusing on Deion Sanders' fit with the Dallas Cowboys. Through detailed analysis and candid discussions, Colin Cowherd offers listeners valuable insights into team dynamics, coaching efficacy, and quarterback performance, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts keen on understanding the intricacies of the NFL landscape.