Hour 1 - Draymond Green is the villain

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 1: Draymond Green is the Villain

Release Date: May 9, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

The first hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" delves deep into the portrayal of Draymond Green as the NBA’s quintessential villain. Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre explore Green’s role within the Golden State Warriors, comparing him to legendary players known for their confrontational styles. The discussion extends to broader NBA playoff narratives, team dynamics, and touches upon NFL topics, showcasing the hosts' multifaceted approach to sports commentary.

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1. Draymond Green: The Modern Villain

Colin and Jason open the discussion by positioning Draymond Green alongside NBA greats like Bill Laimbeer and Dennis Rodman, emphasizing the intentional path these players took to embody the role of the "villain" in their respective teams.

• Comparison to NBA Legends:

  • "The three best of all time were Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, and Draymond Green."
    (03:14)

• Aggressiveness and Team Impact:

  • Colin highlights Green's on-court aggression and how it translates to both positive and negative outcomes for the Warriors.
  • "Draymond has chosen the path like Bill Laimbeer did, to be a confrontational player. With that path in life comes fame, comes riches, and it gets messy."
    (07:45)

• Psychological Dynamics:

  • The hosts discuss Green's technical fouls, especially when star players like Steph Curry are absent.
  • "Draymond actually, statistically gets more technicals when Steph Curry doesn't play."
    (07:10)

• Green’s Personal Struggles:

  • Draymond addresses societal perceptions, stating, "I'm not an angry black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man with a great family, and I'm great at basketball."
    (07:30)

2. Coaching and Player Dynamics

The conversation transitions to the importance of coaching in harnessing the talents of players like Green and Laimbeer.

• Coaching Greatness:

  • "The four best coaches in league history had the three villains because they understand the value."
    (08:00)

• Player-Coach Relationship:

  • Colin emphasizes that despite their confrontational nature, players like Green are highly coachable and professional.
  • "He's as coachable as any employee I have because Tom Izzo and Steve Kerr are tough coaches."
    (07:50)

3. Broader NBA Playoff Analysis

Shifting focus, the hosts analyze the NBA playoffs, highlighting team strategies, player performances, and predictive outcomes.

• Team Dynamics:

  • Discussion on the Celtics' roster depth versus the Lakers', emphasizing roster composition over individual star power.
  • "The Lakers roster composition matters a lot. And the Lakers, this is what I've been arguing all week. The Lakers roster is not close to good enough."
    (34:00)

• Player Evaluations:

  • Critique of star players’ ability to lead and their impact on team success.
  • "You can't build around him [KD]. He's a wanderer. You can never get an answer."
    (26:00)

• Emerging Players:

  • Highlighting up-and-coming talents and their roles in their teams' playoff aspirations.
  • "Cam Ward is fresh off being the number one pick of the draft and he's one of the favorites to win offensive Rookie of the Year."
    (27:37)

4. NFL Insights: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers

In a departure from basketball, Colin and Jason delve into the NFL, focusing on quarterback Aaron Rodgers' potential move to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

• Contract and Negotiations:

  • Analysis of Rodgers' indecision and the Steelers' considerations regarding Shadour Sanders.
  • "I don't think he's [Aaron Rodgers] a Pittsburgh or Bus [referring to the Steelers' head coach]." (30:36)

• Team Strategy:

  • The Steelers' strategic decisions in the draft and their implications for team dynamics.
  • "Pittsburgh needs a quarterback, but did not view Sanders as a star. He was closer to Kenny Pickett."
    (49:00)

• Player Personalities:

  • Discussion on George Pickens' temperament and its potential impact on the Steelers.
  • "He [George Pickens] has had trouble controlling his emotions and his frustrations when he doesn't like the direction of the offense or his role within it."
    (49:30)

5. LeBron James and the Lakers’ Challenges

The hosts critique the Los Angeles Lakers' performance, focusing on LeBron James' leadership and the team's overall roster quality.

• Team Performance:

  • "The Lakers roster is not close to good enough."
    (34:40)

• LeBron's Leadership:

  • Analysis of LeBron's commentaries post-playoffs and the perception of his accountability.
  • "LeBron's totally right on this. This roster."
    (35:40)

• Comparative Team Strength:

  • Highlighting other teams with deeper rosters and better playoff prospects.
  • "Pacers have like nine guys. They can play."
    (36:10)

6. Additional Sports Commentary

Brief discussions on various other sports topics, including the UFL and player trades, round out the conversation.

• NFL Team Strategies:

  • Examination of the Dallas Cowboys' and Steelers' approaches to player acquisitions.
  • "I think old Jerry Jones is becoming old Al Davis of the Raiders."
    (43:30)

• UFL Coverage:

  • Mention of the UFL's prime-time broadcasting and upcoming games.
  • "Tonight the UFL is in prime time as the D.C. defenders head to the Alamo Dome to battle the San Antonio Brahmas."
    (43:16)

7. Concluding Thoughts

Colin and Jason wrap up the hour by reaffirming their stances on player evaluations and team strategies, encouraging listeners to engage with their content.

• Defending Player Legacies:

  • "I will defend Rodman, Lambert, and Draymond. They are effective. They're complex. They embrace it."
    (07:50)

• Future Predictions:

  • Colin predicts the Celtics' dominance in their series and offers betting insights.
  • "I like Boston. I'm sorry, I do."
    (37:03)

• Engagement with Audience:

  • Promotion of live editions and interaction through the iHeartRadio app.
  • "Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app."
    (09:09)

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Key Takeaways:

• Draymond Green's Role: Embracing the villain persona adds complexity and value to his team, mirroring legends like Rodman and Laimbeer.
• Coaching Influence: Exceptional coaching is pivotal in managing and maximizing the potential of confrontational players.
• Team Dynamics Over Star Power: Depth and roster composition are critical in playoff success, often outweighing individual star performances.
• Aaron Rodgers' NFL Future: Rodgers' potential move to the Steelers is fraught with strategic and personality considerations.
• Lakers' Roster Concerns: The Lakers' current roster may not be robust enough to advance further in the playoffs without significant improvements.

This episode offers a comprehensive analysis of key sports figures and team strategies, providing listeners with in-depth insights and thoughtful commentary on contemporary sports narratives.

Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jason McIntyre]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jason McIntyre]

Yes, indeed, your friend Draymond Green.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[Jason McIntyre]

Cheap shot artist.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, let's just say this. Whatever path you choose to take in life, I'm not going to be judgmental, but we have history of NBA players who choose the villain role. The three best of all time were Bill Lambert, Dennis Rodman and Draymond Green. It was a chosen path. Laimbeer and Draymond were better offensively, but they played the wrestling heel, too. And with that, it gets messy. So last night's another Draymond night. He gets a foul. It's obviously a technical foul. They go to the replay. You could argue it's a flagrant. I wouldn't, but some would. Now, he has told the line his entire career. I don't see him as a victim, but I have defended him. I defended Lambert and Rodman. They are great at what they do. They provide an edge and toughness. They're annoying. They get into people's heads. Now, Draymond also has some impulse control issues. And Steph Curry and Steve Kerr are often almost therapists during these outbursts. It's interesting. Draymond actually, statistically gets more technicals when Steph Curry doesn't play. So there is something psychologically about Draymond. When his guy, when the star's gone, he gets ramped up. Then later in the game, he's on the bike. Draymond has an altercation with a fan. A fan says something inappropriate, the fan, it's a slur. Gets tossed out of the game, as he should be. There's knuckleheads everywhere. And afterwards, Draymond Green was very upset about an agenda and how he is often viewed in his eyes, look like the angry black man. I'm not an angry black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man with a great family. And I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I do to keep the agenda. To try to keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. Now, I have said this before. I have employed him for several years. He's as coachable as any employee I have because Tom Izzo and Steve Kerr are tough coaches. So he likes to be coached. He gets along with People, he's totally professional. But he has chosen the path like Bill Laimbeer did, to be a confrontational player. With that path in life comes fame, comes riches, and it gets messy. I went to a Bill Laimbeer game and heard people attack him in the layup line before the game. That is the path Laimbeer chose. He didn't have to do that. And Draymond Green last night, with Steph out, you knew the crowd was going to be all over him. So that's the path he has taken. But I would say with Lambert, and I'm old enough to remember Bill Lambert with those pistons, that Laimbeer and Draymond are effective. They're complex. They embrace it. It is a very volatile path to take. You'll get rich, you'll get famous, and you'll get a ton of crap. If Steph Curry or Kobe Bryant beat you, it feels artful. If Rodman, Lambert or Draymond beat you, it feels like they're cheating. They're skirting the rules. They're pushing the envelope, and they are. And I have defended it. Bulls fans and Laker fans, they thought Lambert was inappropriate. It's one thing to get beat by the artist, by the scalpel. It's another thing to be. To be beaten over the head. And sometimes with Lambert and Rodman and Draymond, it feels that way. So aggression meets aggression, and the fans are really, really. I sat in the Lambert game. I've been to a Draymond game on the road. It is different. But I will say this about the value of what Draymond provides. So the three most disruptive players, in terms of, like, style in my life are Rodman, Lambert and Draymond. Now, Lambert and Draymond are better offensive players, but those three. Think about this for a second. Who were they coached by? In my opinion, the four best coaches in league history, at least in my life history. Popovich, Chuck Daly, Phil Jackson and Steve Kerr. So the smartest coaches in league history had the three villains because they understand the value. The rebounding, the screen setting, the toughness. NBA playoffs have always been loosely officiated. They allow more physicality. Phil Jackson absolutely knew that they had different rules for Rodman. He could go to Vegas during the finals. And the same with Laimbeer or Draymond Green. They have incredible value. But being the villain is a choice, and it's messy. Here is Draymond angry after. And here's Steve Kerr as well. Look like the angry black man. I'm not an angry black man. I'M a very successful, educated black man with a great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I do. To the agenda. To try to keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. He's gonna have to stay composed.

[Jason McIntyre]

Obviously, we need him, and I'm confident that he will, because he knows, you know, he knows the circumstances.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's part of. It's part of Draymond.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, his.

[Colin Cowherd]

The same thing that makes him such a competitor and a winner puts him over the top sometimes. And, you know, we. We know that, and it's our job to try to help him stay. Stay poised, stay composed.

[Jason McIntyre]

But the competition is so meaningful.

[Colin Cowherd]

Meaningful to him that, you know, occasionally he goes over the line. And last night was viewed as going over the line. All right, speaking of noisy couple of stories here. There was a story by Pablo Torrey, talented podcaster, that said Carolina had banned Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, from the football facility. Carolina came out this morning and said, no, she's not an employee of our university. She is welcome in the football facilities. She'll continue to manage Coach Belichick's personal brand outside. So I've said this. Jordan Hudson is a very young and ambitious and willful young lady. And colleges are full of hierarchies. So this gonna be combative. Okay. This was probably bound to get a little turbulent. Belichick empowered her. She took the baton. She's aggressive. If you look at her life history, this is a moment in time for her. Sorry. Find. Be empowered and find success. I get it. But from day one, Belichick to me, on a college campus never made sense. He didn't draft well because he didn't pay a lot of attention. Despite his dad's history, he didn't pay a lot of attention to college football. You could tell from his drafts he had no feel for it. Belichick then hires Mike Lombardi, who I know at North Carolina. These are NFL guys. First, second, and third and fourth and fifth and sixth. They don't care about being part of a university's athletic department. They can fake it. They can go to a basketball game. What I would argue in all of this is Belichick is rebranding himself young girlfriend, College campus, Young, young recruits. He's staying. He's staying current. I'm surprised he didn't go to Coachella. Hey, I thought there'd be coaches here. What's going on? I mean, the truth is, the NFL viewed Bill Belichick as old, combative and grumpy. And one team, Atlanta, gave him the time of day. And yet in the last 12 months, what has he done? He went on ESPN and laughed and smiled a lot. He found a young girlfriend. He's on a young college campus. He's doing TikTok and Snapgram and Insta chat and all that stuff he used to make fun of. I believe Bill is rebranding himself. And even if you look at his contract at Carolina, the out is after a year. So I'm not blaming Bill, whose DNA is pro football, wanting to use Carolina to get back to the NFL. I think that's his real dream. Nor do I blame Jordan Hudson for being ambitious, willful, driven, and butting heads if it happened with anybody on a college campus. College campuses is all about tenured professor. I mean, here at USC and ucla, it's politics, it's tenure. It's, you know, everybody's trying to get their space and their lane and protect it and get that nice pension. I think Belichick's rebranding, but him on a college campus. I've said this from the very beginning. It just doesn't feel natural. It doesn't feel terribly authentic. You can go, you know him laughing on espn. He gave it the college try. But Bill's not a media guy. Bill doesn't have any interest in the media guy. You've watched his book Media Tour. It's not who he is. He's a pro football coach. The best defensive coach of all time. The most profound and prodigious NFL coaching resume of all time. The game changed. It's more collaborative. He tends to be more bottom line and a little bit corrosive and tough and combative and collaborative and combative are two different things. And. Hey, Jordan, can you give me a little help in the branding stuff? That's what it feels like to me. I'm not saying they don't have a great time together, but I've said I think they're both kind of using each other to empower their careers going forward. I'm here for it. I'm okay with it, but I've never bought into Belichick. And a college campus fits. It's like Bobby Knight in the pros. That was never going to work. Belichick, 12 years at Carolina. Mack Brown feels like a college coach. He's smiling, not great on the details. Wonderful guy, Southern smooth, Texas charm. Mack Brown's a college coach. Nick Saban could do both. He just didn't stay around The NFL long enough to be a great head coach, but this has always felt a little unnatural to me, and that's okay. So I. You had the Pablo Torrey report. Carolina comes back and says, that's not true. Julian Edelman was on our show earlier this week. On all the noise around Belichick, Carolina, and the current situation, the number one thing we used to talk about all the time in New England was distractions. Let's not make distractions.

[Jason McIntyre]

The game's already as hard as it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is, and we're talking about this. Three weeks later, it's on abc, it's on this, it's on that. I mean, it's getting to a point where we gotta.

[Jason McIntyre]

We gotta start worrying about, you know, the acc.

[Colin Cowherd]

We gotta start worrying about Dabo Sweeney. Yeah, he sees it. Julian sees it. He is keeping it real on this. I don't feel Mike Lombardi, Bill Belichick, Carolina. That does. That doesn't. That doesn't sound like a Tom Hanks, Rita Wilson marriage. That doesn't feel like 20, 30 years to me. Even if Billy Belichick was 55, he's a pro guy. You can usually see a guy. That guy's a college guy. That guy is a pro guy. Dabos when he's a college guy. Belichick's a pro guy. Annie Reid's a pro guy. Sean Payton's a pro guy. J. Mac, Draymond Green gets everybody riled up. You almost knew last night without Steph Curry. We talked about this on the show yesterday. Golden State had one way to win. Get ugly, get physical. And it went sideways.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't know. Other than Jonathan Kaminga having a pretty solid game, I saw nothing from Golden State that leads me to believe they're winning any more games in the series. I mean, Anthony Edwards played like crap again last night.

[Colin Cowherd]

Got hurt on one ankle. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

I mean, listen, their bench showed up. Nas, Reed, DiVincenzo, Julius Randall.

[Colin Cowherd]

Pretty good.

[Jason McIntyre]

Dean Chenzo is trending toward Draymond territory with some. Some of these.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, he's a very. Again, he. He. I don't think he's Draymond, Rob nor Lambir. But he's a very physical, feisty player. I think his dad was a little too much. Well, he's a Villanova guy. Villanova guys are tough.

[Jason McIntyre]

You go after Luca and LeBron. And now in this series, Jimmy Butler.

[Colin Cowherd]

He know who likes the defincenzo? Chris Finch. He's his tough guy.

[Jason McIntyre]

Everybody needs an enforcer, you know?

[Colin Cowherd]

Now, Jay Wright loved him. Yeah. I mean, the Bottom line is I'll defend Rodman Lambert, defenseo, Draymond Green, every. What do we. What do we think the Celtics are missing? Dog.

[Jason McIntyre]

Tough guy.

[Colin Cowherd]

Minnie's got dog. I mean, I know. I mean, I'll tell you who's got dog. Denver Jokic has banged on players for years. Denver's got dog.

[Jason McIntyre]

Boston had Marcus Smart. They were like, too much. The dog thinks he's too much of a big dog. Taking all the shots. No, thanks.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm sorry. I'm going to defend these guys forever. Not just because I've worked with Draymond. I'll defend them forever. Popovich, Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr, Chuck Daly. Four best coaches, arguably ever, all loved their enforcer.

[Jason McIntyre]

It's also like when you and I hang out. You know, you need me to step in sometimes when fans get overzealous with you and want to buy you a.

[Colin Cowherd]

Drink, I'm like, hey, hey, cow hurdle down.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

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They have new owners and there's just, there's a lot of money here if you don't win. But what's interesting is Brad Stevens is a very smart GM and he is always ahead of the curve. If they go after Giannis and they're one of the few teams that would have a package to do it and he could stay in the East. What does it tell you about what he thinks about Tatum? Fans tend to think that if you score a bunch of points, you're a number one. No, James Harden was never a number one. He was a number one score, but Houston mistakenly thought you could build around him. Westbrook, Chris Paul, he didn't work with anybody because he doesn't work on the defensive end. And he's flighty and flaky. Okay, so he's not a number one. He's a number one scorer. Kawhi and Embiid, to me, they can't be number ones. They're never available. You can't have a quarterback play 11 to 12 games a year. That's not. I don't care how. I don't care if they're as good as Lamar Jackson. You gotta be there every single Sunday playing hurt. You gotta be there. And so the NBA now even has minimums for awards. You have to play so many games. So I've always said this. I've always called Anthony Davis the best number two in the sport, is that he has the talent to be a one, but you can't really depend on him. Sometimes he's there, sometimes offensively, he's not present. So if I had to pick a starting five with one bench, guy is the best number twos in the league. Many of these feel like number ones. I'd have Jimmy Butler, Jalen Brown, Chet Holmgren, Anthony Davis, KAWHI Leonard and KD. And you think, oh, KD's the one. No, he's not. You can't build around him. He's a wanderer. You can never get an answer. He didn't like confrontation in the locker room from Draymond or on the bench. Steph is a one. KD's personality, his games are one. So is John Moran's game. So is Zion Williamson's game. But they're twos, gifted twos. So to me, there are four things you need to be a one production. I mean, you can't score 12 a game and be a one production. Number two. Physical and emotional reliability. You got to be there. You got to have your head on straight. That's Harden. Not. Not a one. Number three is durability. Kawhi, you gotta. You gotta play. And number four is dog. Gotta be a dog. And that's where Jason Tatum. And I'm not saying Tatum's not a one, but he struggles with the fourth one. He got Me talked into it even when he didn't play much in the Olympics in his prime, his response was, well, it's just part of basketball. You think you're gonna sit Kobe and MJ and not hear from it. You think you're gonna sit LeBron and not hear from it? He was like, eh, Michael Jordan still holds a grudge because Isaiah Thomas froze him out in an All Star Game. In an All Star game, number four is dog. You want the ball and you demand it. When I watched Jason Tatum's last shot, he goes left, chooses the wrong side, works himself into a double, goes into the defender and shoots a fall away. Two of his last three shots were fallaways. I'm not denying he's a one, but he struggles with dog. He just does. And so I'm fascinated to see what Brad Stevens does. When they brought in Porzingis and Jrue Holiday, what they were telling you was, you know, we need to bring in two more offensive guys because sometimes our guy is not quite as dependable in big spots as we like. I always said this. You can tell what a team thinks of its quarterbacks by the plays it calls. You can tell what a GM thinks of his stars by what he surrounds him with. So if they said, we'll get rid of Jalen Brown, we'll do this, we'll do this, we'll do this, we'll do this, we'll bring in Giannis, they're telling you sometimes with Tatum, we're not, we're not sure if he got that dog. Giannis may not be able to hit a free throw. He wants to dominate. Okay, LeBron O was wanted to Michael, we all know the players. Bird Magic, we all know doesn't mean you play great in every game six and seven. I'm not saying that everybody has bad games. Here's Rick Bucher yesterday on Tatum doesn't have a go to spot. He doesn't have a go to shot. He took fewer shots at the rim this season than he ever has in his career. And his mid range was went down as well. What compensated for that? He took nearly half of his shots from three point range. So now we're looking at your go to guy who if his three point shot is not falling, which it has not in this series, what's he going to. I've said this. Phil Jackson may have had the triangle, but sometimes Kobe and MJ just went, yeah, we're gonna do my. We're gonna do my triangle, not yours. Give me the ball. I think Tatum too often Complies and is collaborative with this analytical three point parade. And I think he should push back. And sometimes. Guys, I'm getting a bucket. I'm taking the last eight shots and I'm not shooting threes. I'm getting buckets. But he's such a nice kid and he's so collaborative. This is just my opinion that this three point analytic parade that Boston does, he just goes along with it. I see him constantly beat guys off the dribble, then step back and shoot a three. Dude, just get to the basket and dunk. Just go to the basket, get better shots. But he is such a quality guy. And again, to me, there's four things you got to have to be an absolute one. And I'm not saying he doesn't have dogs sometimes, but man, it can be a struggle. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.

[Jason McIntyre]

Just promise me you'll, we'll bring back that, that list for later on in the show.

[Colin Cowherd]

Can you promise me that that's my, it's my current number two all star team.

[Jason McIntyre]

We must talk about it later. Okay, deal.

[Colin Cowherd]

You're unhappy with it? Yes.

[Jason McIntyre]

Anyways, let's get to her. Like Cam Ward, fresh off being the number one pick of the draft and he's one of the favorites to win offensive Rookie of the Year. Well, last year's winner of the award, Jaden Daniels, had one of the best rookie seasons for a quarterback in NFL history. Here's his advice to Cam Ward. Just go out there and have fun. Enjoy playing the game that you've played since you were a kid. Boy, it's that easy. Just have fun, says Jaden Daniels.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I will say this. There is, you know, somebody years ago told me in our profession, he said, do your prep and then let it rip. Don't overthink the room. There is value in saying, like, Peyton Manning was a legendary teeth clencher, Bill Poly and his GM said like, like he wanted to practice on Saturday and Saturday for the Colts was Family Day. Peyton's like, no, I think we can get more work in. There is value to just saying and talking yourself into, I've done the prep. Let's go have fun. So I don't think that's bad advice. I think paralysis by analysis. And I think Cam Ward's style is fun and he should lean into his style. Like, I'm going to coach Caleb Williams and I'm going to coach Jaden Daniels and I'm going to coach Lamar Jackson. But the last Thing I'm going to say as a coach that I'm going out there, put my arm around him and say, you've done the work, go have fun. So I don't think that's a bad message. I don't want, I don't want Lamar getting tight. He gets tight in the playoffs.

[Jason McIntyre]

Go do you, you know, obviously our kids play sports. That's like the last thing I say to them. You get out of the car at the, at the tournament, hey, go have fun. Do your best, have fun. That's, that's a smart advice from, from Jane Daniels. Now the question is, you know, we haven't seen Cam Ward in a lot of high leverage games at Miami. He wasn't playing in big ones. He had some close games.

[Colin Cowherd]

But I like his mindset. I like his personality. He's low key, he's humble. I like everything about him. He's a little backyard football, but man, I have to look in the mirror on that. The league is getting more backyard football at quarterback like Patrick Mahomes started it. I really well, I mean not Steve Young and there a lot of guys that moved around. But at some point I watch pure pocket quarterbacks and it does feel like you don't get to play with 25% of the playbook.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, for sure. Next up is Aaron Rodgers. Listen, I tried to stamp him out of the show, what, two weeks ago we did that. He's back, Colin, unfortunately, because your guy Peter Schrager says that Rogers is still deliberating a decision to sign with Pittsburgh, adding that while the team doesn't have any further insight than they did during the draft, they're willing to wait on the quarterback. Now, is there a world where Rogers is like, hey, let me see how long I can wait this out. Quarterback somewhere else gets hurt during training camp, Brock Purdy and the Niners fall apart. Is he, do you think he's waiting for something else? A better option than the Steelers?

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't think he's a Pittsburgh or Bus. I feel like he, this is. Nobody knows with Aaron. I feel like he just wants to make sure everything's right with Pittsburgh.

[Jason McIntyre]

It's never, it's never, Everything's never going to be right. If you're waiting for perfection, you're going to wait forever.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes, but, but I think Aaron's take is it's retirement or the Steelers. You know, my theory on this has always been that he's just making sure the Brock Purdy deal is done.

[Jason McIntyre]

It's still not done, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, it's not done a lot of reports on that, but nothing from the.

[Jason McIntyre]

Niners to suggest that there's issues.

[Colin Cowherd]

Of course not. They wouldn't leak that.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, last year with iu, they.

[Colin Cowherd]

They were upfront that they was disruptive. Brock Purdy's not disruptive. I think if I was Aaron, I'm going to give the Niners negotiations four or five more days. That's what I would do. I would take Shanahan over Tomlin if I was a quarterback. So now, now maybe I'm wrong. And he admitted to this. You know, he acknowledged or told the Steelers, I'm going to. If I was Aaron Rodgers, I would make sure the Brock Purdy deal is all buttoned up. He has also said publicly I'd pay. I'd play for $10 million. Well, Purdy at 52 or Aaron at 10, pretty easy choice for me. Well, you go. I'm just saying.

[Jason McIntyre]

I mean, Rogers for one or Purdy for four.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why wouldn't he sign?

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't know. That's the big mystery. And listen, all these people reporting, nobody knows. Nobody has any clue.

[Colin Cowherd]

I've been hearing Brock Purdy, it's close.

[Jason McIntyre]

For like three months.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, isn't that funny?

[Jason McIntyre]

So you think it is. There's issues behind the scenes.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm not saying issues. I'm saying if I was Aaron Rodgers, I would much rather play for Kevin o' Connell or Kyle Shanahan than defensive minded Pittsburgh out in the east coast, which I did. I didn't like it and it was a circus. I. Pittsburgh and Aaron. Does that feel like a place? Aaron? Pittsburgh doesn't sound right.

[Jason McIntyre]

So is this like, you know, this girl wants to go to the prom with you, you. You're not sure. But the girl you really want, she's on the rocks with her boyfriend.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, women do that too. To guys.

[Jason McIntyre]

They do. If the girl breaks up with her boyfriend all of a sudden, hey, I'm. That's who I want for the prom. Maybe Rogers really wants the Niners.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nobody knows. And Aaron would never admit if it's true. But what is he waiting for? And I've always said, just as a smart guy, if I'm saying I want to play one more year, Pittsburgh may want two. Maybe he doesn't want to be a mentor. Just the idea. I get Kyle Shanahan in California, I can do my private jet down to Malibu the minute after games end, or I'm in Pittsburgh. I don't know. I'm just telling you, if I was.

[Jason McIntyre]

In, why do you say I'M Pittsburgh.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I mean, I have a place in Malibu. I didn't buy a place in Dayton, Ohio. I like the warm weather. I got a beach place in Malibu. Niners game, Saturday, one o' clock window. I am home on the beach, having a Margarita at 5:45 Hostel Elite. I'm having a craft beer at Sully's in Pittsburgh. I mean, I'm just saying, what would you do?

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, you don't have to ask me. Anyways, let's go to the final story call to the NBA. LeBron and the Lakers obviously lost in the first round. Well, now LeBron's on his podcast with Steve Nash. And LeBron addressed the criticism he and Luca have received since they got eliminated by the Wolves.

[Colin Cowherd]

Teams win championships. And, and I understand that.

[Jason McIntyre]

And it's never just about me and Luca. It was never just about, you know.

[Colin Cowherd]

Anthony Edwards and Judy is Randle.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, it was always Minnesota versus the Lakers.

[Colin Cowherd]

And I understand that. And I, and, and I am at a point in my career now where I, you know, I don't lose sleep over that. Like, how, how did me and Luca lose? Like, well, yeah, well, there's, there's eight other guys on the floor. Yeah. And, and by. For the record, he's absolutely right. When LeBron was in his athletic prime, the eight guys on the roster did not matter as much. But at this point with LeBron, the roster composition matters a lot. And the Laker, this is what I've been arguing all week. The Lakers roster is not close to good enough.

[Jason McIntyre]

They were the three seed and won a ton of games. Colin, come on.

[Colin Cowherd]

Regular season, yeah, Boston was dominant over New York in the red.

[Jason McIntyre]

Tatum average like 34 a game against unbeatable.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now he can't hit a shot.

[Jason McIntyre]

So here's an interesting thing on LeBron. So they lose in the playoffs, he does this podcast and you know this is going to go all over social media. People are going to pick it apart. I, I so wish Michael Jordan had been doing a podcast after that first year in Washington with the Wizards.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, he was done. He had his money. He wanted to own the team. He didn't.

[Jason McIntyre]

Brown, I would love to have heard about cuz this is another reason people don't like LeBron. They're just, oh, now he's blaming the other eight guys on the court, which is reality.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's not blaming them. He's being honest. Minnesota, and this is true, has a much deeper, better roster.

[Jason McIntyre]

The Lakers didn't lose because of LeBron. He averaged, by the way, 25 nine and five on 48%, shooting, 35% from three. LeBron, great series.

[Colin Cowherd]

Has always sent messages. He's very smart. You look at it as calculated. I look at it as smart. He is sending a message. Improve the roster.

[Jason McIntyre]

Gabe Davis is nice. In February and March, you get to the playoffs. We need something a little. We need more ammo.

[Colin Cowherd]

So LeBron's totally right on this. Yeah. This roster. And I'm sorry, I'll argue it all day. It's not close.

[Jason McIntyre]

How about this? We've got a better roster. The Indiana Pacers.

[Colin Cowherd]

Pacers close.

[Jason McIntyre]

Pacers have like nine guys. They can play.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. I don't even think anybody in the league would argue, take Indiana's roster over the Lakers and Clippers.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, like Ben Matheran's like a seventh or eighth guy. He would be the sixth man on the Lakers. Undeniable anyways.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. By the way, the Cavs were great in the regular season, too.

[Jason McIntyre]

How's that working out?

[Colin Cowherd]

02. OKC was dominant. 1 and 1. Now going to Denver.

[Jason McIntyre]

I know you're not betting NBA right now because it's suicide.

[Colin Cowherd]

I bet NBA.

[Jason McIntyre]

Did you look at the lines for tonight and Saturday?

[Colin Cowherd]

No. Give me the lines tonight.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, first of all, all of the road teams are favored. Pacers are underdogs at home against the Cavs. Cavs, three and a half now. They're expected to get their guys back.

[Colin Cowherd]

All of them?

[Jason McIntyre]

Yes, but we don't know for sure. Celtics are favored in the Garden.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is that tonight or tomorrow?

[Jason McIntyre]

That's Saturday. And then.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, that's going to be great. So the game Saturday is in the.

[Jason McIntyre]

Garden at like 12:30 Pacific time.

[Colin Cowherd]

And what's the line?

[Jason McIntyre]

Celtics three and a half is what I last saw.

[Colin Cowherd]

I like Boston. I'm sorry. I do. Now.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's been going up, but three and a half, four, I think Boston. I don't think that series is over, by the way.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. Go to DraftKings. I'm gonna. I'm gonna promote that right now. I'm betting that on my account. Who are you taking? Boston.

[Jason McIntyre]

For sure.

[Colin Cowherd]

What's Denver and okc?

[Jason McIntyre]

OKC was at least three and a half last night.

[Colin Cowherd]

Be careful about that. I would take Denver plus three and a half at home.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't know that that's as serious. I don't.

[Colin Cowherd]

No.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't know who's going to show up. I mean, Denver lost game two by like 48 points, didn't they? 50 points.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, but don't you think there's a point they steal home court and then wave the old white flag in the first quarter. In fact, why don't you just not only beat us, humiliate us, give you some false confidence. Now you come up to the mountains, the mile high, take Denver in the points.

[Jason McIntyre]

Denver going up two woods would be a bit of a shock to the system.

[Colin Cowherd]

Again this regular, your regular season jmac postseason cow.

[Jason McIntyre]

Wait a minute. I never liked OKC all season. I trashed him up and down.

[Colin Cowherd]

I've been saying this for years. It's two different sports. Yeah, it is two different sports. NFL is more intense, but it's not two different sports. Hockey's more intense. It's not two different sports. You get into basketball playoffs are officiated differently than they are during the regular season.

[Jason McIntyre]

So would can the Celtics win four or five from the Knicks?

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't know. I just think they're going to win game three. That's a big ask. It's hard to just beat and, and also New York now is so empowered. They, they. I don't know if New York thought they would win this series. They do now.

[Jason McIntyre]

Just a reminder, they didn't play great at home against the Pistons. Lost two of three in the garden, including a close out game.

[Colin Cowherd]

Watching with this series is nuts. Yeah, I watched New York struggle with the Pistons and beat Boston twice at home. What am I watching?

[Jason McIntyre]

Just make sure I know. Saturday's supposed to be like 75 degrees beautiful out here in LA. Just make sure you're in front of a TV for that Knicks game. That's gonna be crazy.

[Colin Cowherd]

J Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. The Herd lie news. They are reportedly NFL teams are laughing at the Dallas Cowboys and what the Steelers really thought of Shedeur. That story's out the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss and the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together. I mean that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio. Maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcasts. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. Summer is almost here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. Now what do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A day at the lake, That's a no. A Philly cheesesteak? That's a yes. A nice tan. Sorry. A box fan. Happily, yes. What about a day of sunshine? Not happening. How about a box of fine wines? Yeah, that's happening. Delivery's on its way. Okay, how about some clear skies? Nope. Well, how about some French fries? Yeah. So how about a freshly cut lawn? Can't help you there. But a barbecued prawn? Order it and it's on its way. Even throw in some paper towels. Clean up after the feast. So while you can't get fun in the sun delivered, don't worry because you can get pork buns delivered. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. Introducing Instagram Teen Accounts. A new way to keep your teen safer as they grow. Like making sure they always have their seatbelt on. Alright, buckle up. Good job. New Instagram Teen accounts. Automatic protections for who can contact your teen and the content they can see. Banking with Capital One helps you keep more money in your wallet with no fees or minimums on checking accounts and no overdraft fees. Just ask the Capital One bank guy. It's pretty much all he talks about in a good way. He'd also tell you that this podcast is his favorite podcast too. Oh really? Thanks. Capital One Bank Guy. What's in your wallet? Terms apply. See capital1.com bank capital1NA member FDIC. Interested in investing in Bitcoin but not sure how to get started? Well, with the Gemini credit card, you can dip your toes into Bitcoin without even trying. Just spend like you normally do, groceries, gas or a night out and instantly earn up to 4% back in Bitcoin or one of over 50 other cryptos straight to your account with no annual fee. The Gemini Credit card is pretty much a no brainer and right now you can grab a $200 bitcoin intro bonus. So go to gemini.com card to learn more and start earning today. Terms apply. Again. Go to gemini.com card start building your Bitcoin stash now. Terms apply. The Gemini Credit Card is issued by Web Bank. In order to Qualify for the intro $200 crypto bonus, your application must be approved by June 30, 2025 and spend $3,000 in your first 90 days. Terms apply. Some exclusions apply to instant rewards in which rewards are deposited when the transaction posts this content is not investment advice and Trading Crypto involves risk for more details on rates, fees and other Gemini Credit card terms, see Rates and Fees.

[Jason McIntyre]

Tonight the UFL is in prime time as the D.C. defenders head to the Alamo Dome to battle the San Antonio Brahmas. Fox UFL Friday kicks off at 8pm Eastern.

[Colin Cowherd]

Such good NBA playoff action this weekend be so good. So some NF NFL teams reportedly according to the Athletics, Jeff Howe according to how there was not a lot of interest in talking with the Steelers about a trade for receiver George Pickens. Some teams pulled by the Athletic at the time laughed at the idea of inviting Pickens into their locker room for any price, let alone a second day draft. Pickens? Yeah, except the Cowboys gave him up for a third. So I I've said this. I think old Jerry Jones is becoming old Al Davis of the Raiders. They both entered the NFL as visionaries and mavericks. They won titles in their prime and then they aged really poorly. Al Davis at the end got rigid and would just draft fast guys. And Jerry Jones gives away draft picks now like they're skittles. It is a head coach quarterback league and Jerry will not draft a quarterback in the first round and hire second and third tier head coaches. Now I do think Dak Prescott's temperament potentially ensures some level of success here because he's just got the kind of, you know, EQ maturity that he'll make Pickens work. But if you really look at the best teams in this league, the Baltimores, Philadelphia, the Rams, how they're run, they are two and three year plans. The Cowboys are doing whatever feels good today and George Pickens to all the Cowboy faithful, it feels good today. But Jeff Howe said people laughed at the idea of bringing him Pickens into their locker room. And this was, this was Albert Brear yesterday on the Cowboy acquisition George Pickens, if he's not signed long term at that point could be worried about his payday. And his history has been that he's had trouble controlling his emotions and his frustrations when he doesn't like the direction of the offense or his role within it. I think there is a reality to all of this that's going to have to be managed early. A lot of this falls at the feet of the, the, of the, of the new head coach who, you know, shoddy's got a great personality. I think he'll do a great job building a culture there. You know, one of his first jobs now is to, to make sure that everything is clear with the receiver room as to the roles that they're going to play, how that could play out over the course of the year. Okay, so I want to throw this story at you. It's being reported now by Jeremy Fowler. A reporter said the Steelers viewed quarterback Shadour Sanders, who they considered taking in the fourth round. They considered him, quote, as a distributing point guard type and not clearly not Magic Johnson. And so I was, I was thinking about this. So remember before Aaron Rodgers, because he's rumored to be going to Pittsburgh? Remember, remember when Aaron Rodgers had not chosen the New York jets yet, yet they hired Nat Hackett. Now we can say that Aaron did not force them to, but clearly they were having discussions. We're not dumb, Aaron. We know Hackett was yours. That's not who, that's not who Flores would have hired the guy that was an abject disaster in Denver. So here's my take. Pittsburgh needed a quarterback, but did not view Sanders as a star. He was closer to Kenny Pickett. And that they drafted Will Howard instead of Shadour Sanders. Shador is obviously a better prospect than Will Howard because Aaron coming out of a circus in New York, when they talked to Aaron with DK Metcalf, George Pickens, they didn't want to add Shadour Sanders to the mix. Because then you look at it and go, oh crap, this could go sideways fast. And they're in the Aaron Rodgers recruiting business. That, that is another reason all these people that built a fence around should do or the NFL doesn't know what they're doing drafting quarterbacks. You know what we're finding out that Pittsburgh, that's pretty good at the drafting and developing thing. They kind of viewed him as a Hammond egg or a four or fifth round guy, which is what Kenny Pickens really should have been. And in the end, they didn't want A noisy fourth or fifth round guy because Aaron Rodgers had just come out of a noisy mess in New York. And one of the things the Steelers probably sold Aaron on is, no chaos here. We're going to get rid of Pickens. We'll draft a backup and stuff. That Aaron's not capable and doesn't think he'd beat out Shador Sanders. He would, but I could see Pittsburgh's, and this is where the noise really hurts, is that I could see Pittsburgh sitting there because they reportedly considered drafting him in the fourth. And I think you have those discussions in the late third and fourth round. You're sitting there talking to the staff and you're saying, listen, we have a chance to get Aaron. We really want George Pickens, Shador Sanders and Noyes with Aaron. Aaron just came from Noyes. I really think those are the kind of discussions the Pittsburgh Steelers had leading up to the draft because I know teams that had those discussions. I know two teams in particular that had those discussions about Shador Dad, Shador Noyes. So it's just interesting. I think Will Howard is a quiet draft pick and you know, he's a, he played in a system at Ohio State. Not going to bring any air. Everybody knows he's a backup and I think Shador is a backup to Aaron Rodgers, too, but he's not a quiet backup. The media is just going to unload on you like Tebow and be vultures hovering around practice. And Pittsburgh's trying to sell Aaron. We're not the Jets. We're not a circus. It's all about football. We're grown ups here. That's why I do believe, I do believe that part of the George Pickens trade is Tomlin saying, I don't have a quarterback. Last thing I need is Aaron thinking babysitting George Pickens.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, Steelers fans are not going to like this, Colin, but I would pass on Rodgers. You're not going to be good, right? You already said, hey, trot out Mason Rudolph, play for next year. And then you trade what, at the deadline to a team that thinks they can make a Super bowl move?

[Colin Cowherd]

The Bills, the Ravens, whoever, they already have 12 picks. Get up to 14, get another couple.

[Jason McIntyre]

Picks for Watt, and then you aim for next year. I, I just wouldn't, you know, I'm.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, T.J. watt winning you playoff games? I don't know.

[Jason McIntyre]

How many playoff ones does he have in his career?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, there we go. Is he winning your playoff games? Congratulations. In Pittsburgh having his jersey in your closet.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is he winning your playoff game.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's probably the most popular Steelers player by far. Ben left. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's what the Rams care about. That's what the Eagles care about. Are you winning U.S. playoff games? Not. We sell a lot of his jerseys.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

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