Hour 1 – Franchise Leaders, Crocs at the Gym

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 1: Franchise Leaders, Crocs at the Gym

Release Date: January 3, 2025

Hosts: Rich Davis and Steve Covino
(Filling in for Colin Cowherd)

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1. Introduction and New Year’s Resolutions

The episode kicks off with Rich Davis and Steve Covino welcoming listeners to the show, extending New Year’s greetings and acknowledging the surge in gym memberships as people strive to maintain their New Year’s resolutions.

• Steve Covino: “Happy New Year. We have until this weekend to say it right?” [02:06]
• Rich Davis: “Over 10% of all gym memberships are activated on January 1st.” [03:42]

2. The Quarterback Conundrum: Veteran vs. Young Talent

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the strategic decisions General Managers (GMs) face concerning quarterback acquisitions in the NFL. Davis and Covino delve into whether teams should invest in seasoned veterans or take risks on young, unproven talent from college.

• Veteran Quarterbacks:

  • Covino argues for veterans: “I'd put my money in that than some young nose-picking college kid who doesn't know what it's like.” [05:07]
  • Examples include Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield, who have shown resilience and leadership despite previous setbacks.

• Young Quarterbacks:

  • Davis expresses caution: “You know how hard it is for a young baby-faced college quarterback to come and play with all these men in the NFL.” [06:13]
  • Concerns about leadership and experience are highlighted, with specific skepticism towards Zach Wilson and Daniel Jones.

• Strategic Analogies:

  • The hosts draw parallels between quarterback choices and dating, emphasizing the importance of fit and maturity.
  • Covino: “It's all about that middle ground. Person in life and on the field.” [32:53]

Notable Quotes:

• Covino: “Success rate seems to be higher with a guy that has a little more experience in the NFL.” [05:14]
• Davis: “There should be no debate. He's your quarterback. What do you do with J.J. McCarthy?” [13:55]

3. Franchise Leadership and Organizational Fit

The conversation shifts to the broader theme of franchise leadership, discussing how the right quarterback can rejuvenate a team. They examine the impact of coaching and team environment on a quarterback's success.

• Covino: “Stars attract other stars. There's a lot of star power on your 49ers, and maybe that will attract an Aaron Rodgers.” [32:39]
• Davis: “If you're a GM, it's about investing where that fire is.” [10:04]

4. The Debate Over Aaron Rodgers and Team Dynamics

A heated discussion ensues about whether teams should bring in high-profile veterans like Aaron Rodgers or focus on developing current young quarterbacks.

• Covino expresses reservations: “Is his head really in football right now or playing the bongos?” [12:18]
• Davis counters: “If you had your number one choice, most people with the Jets would say, yeah, you would hire Vrabel.” [48:14]

5. Crocs at the Gym: A Cultural Commentary

Transitioning to a lighter topic, Davis and Covino debate the appropriateness of wearing Crocs in gym settings. They explore gym culture, fashion choices, and the perception of newcomers.

• Covino: “I think they're the weakest looking shoe. But I lost this war because kids wear them all the time.” [37:06]
• Rich Davis: “For anyone going to the gym for the first time, instead of looking at them as an obstacle, applaud them.” [50:27]

Notable Quotes:

• Steve Covino: “Crocs at the gym – it's the weakest look ever.” [38:44]
• Ryan Music (guest): “Absolutely no Crocs at the gym.” [40:15]

6. Interactive Segments and Trivia

The hosts engage listeners with interactive segments, including trivia games and prize giveaways. They also touch upon current sports news, such as Patrick Mahomes’ performance streak and the evolving college football playoff format.

• Covino: “We got Showtime of Homes trivia.” [03:28]
• Ryan Music: “Patrick Mahomes last six games, 11 touchdowns, zero picks.” [49:16]

7. Closing Thoughts and Final Takeaways

In wrapping up, Davis and Covino encourage listeners to embrace both the challenges and the newcomers in their respective environments, whether it’s sports management or gym attendance.

• Covino: “It's about what fits, you know, it’s about the middle ground.” [32:53]
• Davis: “Don't want to see them as an obstacle; I want them to succeed.” [50:37]

Conclusion

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a deep dive into strategic decisions in NFL team management, juxtaposed with a humorous take on gym culture. Rich Davis and Steve Covino provide insightful analysis on quarterback selections while maintaining an engaging and relatable dialogue about everyday topics like gym attire. The blend of sports strategy and cultural commentary makes for a rich and entertaining listen for both avid fans and casual listeners.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Rich Davis: “Over 10% of all gym memberships are activated on January 1st.” [03:42]
• Steve Covino: “I'd put my money in that than some young nose-picking college kid who doesn't know what it's like.” [05:07]
• Steve Covino: “Crocs at the gym – it's the weakest look ever.” [38:44]
• Ryan Music: “Absolutely no Crocs at the gym.” [40:15]
• Rich Davis: “Don't want to see them as an obstacle; I want them to succeed.” [50:37]

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Transcript

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[Rich Davis]

Now let's get this party started.

[Steve Covino]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

Well, how we doing today? CNR in for Colin on the Herd.

[Steve Covino]

How you doing?

[Rich Davis]

How you doing? How you doing?

[Steve Covino]

What's up buddy? Good morning, good day. Live from the west side, I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis. Again, the C and R Show in for Colin on the Herd. Normally we're on from 2 to 4 on the west, 5 to 7 on the east on Fox Sports Radio. But they say, hey, you want to fill in for the Herd? Absolutely. So Happy New Year. We have until this weekend to say it right?

[Rich Davis]

I think today might be the last day.

[Steve Covino]

No, no, we have until Monday. So Happy New Year. Gonna thrive in 2025. Try to survive in 2025 and lots to get to today on the show. How different would life be if life was incentive based. Based on all the games this weekend in the NFL, all the player incentives and Rich, like I said, it's happy New Year. We see our buddy Ryan, by the way. Ryan on the ones and twos. Danny G. Super producing Ryan music. On your updates, again, it's Kavino and Rich, but Ryan on the boards here eating salad for breakfast.

[Rich Davis]

West salad for breakfast. I've never seen such a thing.

[Steve Covino]

He does because he's on his New Year's resolution. I'm trying to be healthy, thank you.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, but for breakfast, I mean, like, you've heard egg white omelette, you know, oatmeal rule to this.

[Steve Covino]

Like, have a salad.

[Rich Davis]

I don't think I've ever eaten greens before noon.

[Steve Covino]

Unless you're a bunny. I don't really see it that often. The only greens Rich has are the marshmallows and his lucky charms.

[Rich Davis]

My Kelsey mix. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

So based on that, everybody's also at the gym trying to stay healthy in the beginning of the year. For the next two weeks, you're going to see a lot of people at the gym. What's the stat, Rich? Isn't there a stat?

[Rich Davis]

Over 10% of all gym memberships are activated on January 1st.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. So people are trying to keep their resolution intact. I get it. But you're also seeing what I call what we call the broccoli heads at the gym. Lots of teenage boys, the alpaca boys with their alpaca haircuts, the broccoli heads with their crocs at the gym. Is this okay or not? We're going to get to that. We're going to play some games, give away prizes. We got Showtime of Homes trivia. So lots to get to on the Cavino and Rich show. Stick around. And if you got a busy day, catch it on the podcast later.

[Rich Davis]

Of course, I want to talk quarterbacks to start the show because there's so many. There's so many ways to look at this. We're getting ready for the playoffs. You're seeing a lot of these young quarterbacks in bowl games. If you're into college football. And you got to ask yourself if you, Steve Covino, if you Danny G. Your music or if anyone listening, if you were a GM of a football team in the NFL, there's angles to take.

[Steve Covino]

If I was a gm, I wouldn't be hanging with you. Be living life somewhere.

[Rich Davis]

It's fair.

[Steve Covino]

Be on a yacht.

[Rich Davis]

If you were GM on a yacht, not hanging with me. There's ways to go. You could take a Swing at some young college quarterback. You could try to sort of rejuvenate the failed attempt of some young quarterback lingering in the NFL.

[Steve Covino]

That's the way.

[Rich Davis]

Or you could go the way of veteran that's got a couple years left in the tank now.

[Steve Covino]

The answer's simple, man. You got to look at the trends, right? The trend. And the trend is there's so many good quarterbacks that never got a proper chance, proper shot. You think of guys like Geno Smith and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, guys like that. There's plenty of that in the NFL. Guys who've been there, they've got a chip on their shoulder, they know what it's like to lead an NFL team, they have some experience, they have things to prove. I'd put my money in that than some young nose picking college kid who doesn't know what it's like. Yeah, I feel like success rate seems to be higher with a guy that has a little more experience in the NFL. And I would take my chances on. And I wish I can quote the people I heard say this, but it's an obvious thought. It was some podcast like Two Goons in the room or something like that. Yeah, probably Two Goons in a room. When you think about the trend and you think about players that have had great comebacks recently like the ones we just mentioned, Sam Darnold probably being the biggest answer right now.

[Rich Davis]

The meme of Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield both as Panthers and it's like, look at them now.

[Steve Covino]

Look at them now. It's an amazing story. We were saying that Sam Donald looked like a Lego fireman. Now he looks like an mvp.

[Rich Davis]

He looks like both.

[Steve Covino]

He. All right, he looks like a, an mvp Lego Fireman. But when you think about some of these young players and you think about the teams they played for, the players they played with, the coaches they played under, you wouldn't give Zach Wilson another shot or a Daniel Jones another shot. When you think about the teams and players and coaches they played for, a guy like Zach Wilson, he played better than Aaron Rodgers did with the Jets. Maybe it's not him. Maybe he does have some juice. Why not take a chance? Not pay that much money for a guy that's proven that he could win in the NFL just with a crappy team. Daniel Jones won a playoff game. Why wouldn't you take a chance over them? As opposed to some young kid who I always question their leadership. You know how hard it is for a young baby faced college quarterback to come and play with all These men in the NFL.

[Rich Davis]

Not easy. But to quote the theme song to one of your favorite shows, what might.

[Steve Covino]

Be right for you May not be right for some.

[Rich Davis]

May not be right for some.

[Steve Covino]

It's a great song written by Alan Thicke.

[Rich Davis]

I believe it was.

[Steve Covino]

It was different strokes.

[Rich Davis]

I don't know if you could say Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are now the template for how to find your guy.

[Steve Covino]

Is that just.

[Rich Davis]

That might be an illusion. Like you might say, oh, great idea, let's go get Trey Lance. We can fix him.

[Steve Covino]

Let's, you know, estimate and undermine setting. You know, that applies to not only football, everywhere in life. If you're not thriving where you are, it might be just because you're in the wrong mix with the wrong people at the wrong place in the wrong state. Like, look at Spotty. Spotty was a schlub in New York. Out here in la. In la, he could be a new man. He is a new man.

[Rich Davis]

You just called Hamilton.

[Steve Covino]

I did, yeah. In New York, you can be a new man. And we're seeing a lot of this in the NFL.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Our video guy spot, way different guy here than when he was on the East Coast.

[Steve Covino]

So setting matters. Players matter. People around you matter.

[Rich Davis]

Friends and coworkers. Now, again, I'm going to give you the three categories of NFL quarterbacks. Number one, you could go overshoot and take a swing at a guy like Danny G. You're a Raiders fan. You want Shador Sanders. Do you want. I don't hear Danny G. I could.

[Steve Covino]

Just pretend I'm Danny G. Absolutely. I'll take Shador Sanders. He looks great in silver and black. Yeah. I wouldn't be mad at Sanders.

[Rich Davis]

Like, ask yourself if you're a fan of a team without a quarterback, is your best bet like, let's go after a Shador Sanders who might not. Is he really a top tier round one quarterback or is there just such a need for a quarterback that he sort of just moves up the board?

[Steve Covino]

Such a need. But.

[Rich Davis]

Such a need.

[Steve Covino]

But realistically, he probably should go somewhere.

[Rich Davis]

Around 13, 14 in the draft.

[Steve Covino]

But I think we're seeing with these players that have had amazing comebacks is the heart and the wherewithal the know how to understand that it's going to take a lot more to succeed in the NFL and therefore you're getting a lot more. A lot more fire from these players. Where kids out of college, it's more of a risk because they're coming out thinking they're superstars, not knowing what it's like to fail on that level yet I'd put my money on that hungry guy.

[Rich Davis]

There's such an importance on honestly getting your right guy at the quarterback position though. There, there's such a pressure to get it right and.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, but. All right, you said if you were a gm, that was the question, right? That's how you posed it. If you were a gm, don't you want to put your money where that fire is? That hunger really is because that dude got overlooked or was in a bad place. It didn't really get to prove himself. You don't think that burns inside some of these players like a Justin Fields or like we said, a Zach Wilson, Everyone thinks he stinks. No, his team stunk. If you were going to give your money to somebody, that's really the question.

[Rich Davis]

Essentially you're taking a chance on how do I, how do I get this franchise back on track?

[Steve Covino]

Fox Sports Radio could have hired anybody three years ago. I think they looked in our eye and they said, these guys have been overlooked. They're hungry, they want it, they're going to work hard. Let's give it to them. I'm serious. Think about it. I think that's how you make the best decision. You look around, who wants this the most? Who has that fire inside? Who's burning for success and working for it the hardest? And I think it's going to be the guys like Darnold Mayfield, Geno Smith. These are all guys that play for weak ass organizations.

[Rich Davis]

Well, our Buddy Ryan. Music. Music. You brought up the good point that in bowl game season there's a lot of guys that, that because they have a couple good games, all of a sudden their stock just rises up in like an absurd percentage. Guy. Guys, guys have a good ball game in college basketball. It happens a lot.

[Ryan Music]

Oh yeah, you see the guys like Shabazz Napier when he went on that run with UConn and then ended up getting drafted in the first round. And you're seeing it a lot in college now with the expanded playoff. You're seeing guys like a Penn State's Drew Aller or Riley Leonard with Notre Dame coming into it. People are like, yeah, I don't know, maybe they're like a mid round guy. And all of a sudden two playoff wins later, they're one of the last four quarterbacks left and people are like, you know, he could sneak into the first round. You're like, well, it's same guy now as he was back in September and October.

[Rich Davis]

But I guess people are really, just really guessing, right? You're trying to take your best educated guest, your team. Because now you're saying, let's go the other angle for a second.

[Steve Covino]

Kavito.

[Rich Davis]

Aaron Rodgers is saying, well, he might retire. That's the set.

[Steve Covino]

Like, he's.

[Rich Davis]

He's using words that are insinuating, is he going to retire or if your team out there. Do you feel like you'd want Aaron Rodgers on your team? He have gas left in the tank. It's Aaron Rodgers.

[Steve Covino]

Aaron Rodgers is a really specific example and different type of person. Like, do you want that kind of leadership at this stage of the game? If I was a gm, I would say probably not. Because after watching Enigma on Netflix, I'm like, is his head really in football right now or playing the bongos? You know, like, that's not the kind of guy I would want leading my team right now. And he's earned it and he could do whatever he wants. The other question with the jets is, should they trade for J.J. mcCarthy this offseason? Our old stomping grounds. SNY was talking about that recently.

[Rich Davis]

So it's just an interesting choice people have to make now because it's.

[Steve Covino]

It's based on the trend of a. Of a Sam Darnold. Would you take that risk of somebody that still has something to prove or someone out of college? Is the question. And out of college, it goes back to what Danny Geo often says. You're prisoner of the moment because they just had a sweet run. Yeah. You know, on a good team. On a good team.

[Rich Davis]

And I'm not saying J.J. mcCarthy is not great. I'm just saying last year we were very much into. I look at Michigan and Harbaugh and J.J. mcCarthy, his stock went way up. And you're seeing what Sam Darnold did this year. There should be no debate. He's your quarterback. What do you do with J.J. mcCarthy? I've said. I've said this for years. For real. I feel like I'm one of the only people that would say it because people are so quick to write off quarterbacks. And I would say this guy's like 23, 24, and you're saying he's done.

[Ryan Music]

Hard to say.

[Rich Davis]

A guy that's 24 is done. I know we're not there watching the scout team, we're not there watching the reps in training camp, but you tell me some of these guys that are drafted early are just done already, or do they need the Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield treatment?

[Steve Covino]

I think that's it. You put those dudes around the Right, People. I mean, you have to. Again, there's intangibles. There really is. With guys like Darnold, with guys like Mayfield. Yeah, they're skillful quarterbacks, but they have a lot of heart.

[Rich Davis]

I'll give you three guys. Tell me if you think any of them end up in a position where maybe in two years from now or so we're saying, see, they just needed the right place. Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields. Is there a scenario where one of those three guys.

[Steve Covino]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

Is. Is being talked about the way we're talking about Baker now? Like, oh, there. Baker just. Baker's a man now. He's a man. Look at him. He's. He's matured. He's in Tampa, you know, and then you look back and say, well, he did take Cleveland to the playoffs. Like, we've overlooked him the whole time. And then Sam Darnold, we're looking at him now saying, well, look. Yeah, he started. He was with the jets and the Panthers. Two garbage teams at those moments.

[Steve Covino]

I think one of those dudes, of those three. Yeah. I think they have the potential to make it in the NFL if in the right setting. And look how long it took a Geno Smith to really get the props he deserved. Look how long he's been in the league. We often say this, but we did a TV show in 2013 on SNY, we were talking about Geno Smith. In 2013, he was on the Jets.

[Rich Davis]

Remember, he got punched in the face by a teammate, and now that took him out.

[Steve Covino]

You realize. I mean, you knew that he was supposed to be good, but now you're seeing how good he really could be on a team that's not even that great. Right. So it's like, wow, okay, he found himself because they gave him a chance. So I think, yes, the answer. If you. If you. I think the question is, of those three quarterbacks who've been overlooked or maybe on bad teams, which one is the answer? Wilson, Jones or Justin Fields? Well, who'd you put your money on? Or some young college qb? That's really a question Richard is posing. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

How do you. How do you figure out what your strategy is if you're a GM now? It really is the biggest question in the NFL because the 49ers also created the template of, well, if you have a really good team and a young quarterback that fits in a system, could you try to win before you have.

[Steve Covino]

To pay him or the veteran?

[Rich Davis]

And you saw that with Brock Purdy, right? Because now teams are like, oh, if I If I have. If I have a guy that fits into this team, I would say the.

[Steve Covino]

Falcons are a good example. You know, Cousins didn't necessarily fit. He wasn't necessarily that guy.

[Rich Davis]

That's another great guy. Right. I'm glad you brought him up. I forgot him.

[Steve Covino]

So there's rumors that maybe the Browns.

[Rich Davis]

Are interested in the other, you know, extreme of that is forget a guy that's 20. How about a guy that's like 40 and Aaron Rodgers, you know, an older veteran, like a Kirk Cousins in his late 30s. Or do you see the rumor that. Let me ask you. Tom Brady's on the. On the. Tom Brady's on the.

[Steve Covino]

Let me ask you this for real. Yeah, real question.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, for real.

[Steve Covino]

Real talk. Fox Sports Radio. Cavino and Rich in for calling on the herd.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

You're single. You're not a GM, cuz.

[Rich Davis]

You're not.

[Steve Covino]

Guess what? You're GM of nothing.

[Rich Davis]

I'll take the younger girl, not the 40 year old.

[Steve Covino]

I was just an asshole.

[Rich Davis]

That's exactly what I say.

[Steve Covino]

Ready? You're single. God forbid, right? Your wife, finally, I don't know, she bumps her head and realizes what a creep you are.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks.

[Steve Covino]

And you end up alone. Do you put your. Not your money, but your heart right in a young woman with all the potential in the world or an established, older, great woman that could lead the rest of your life into victory, into greatness? Where are you investing your time and heart? It's kind of the same question. The young guy.

[Rich Davis]

It's not the same question. You're asking me if I take a 47 year old woman or a college girl.

[Steve Covino]

The young guy with all the promise in the world. Now, the young guy with all the promise in the world or the veteran, the Kirk Cousins or the Aaron Rodgers or the someone that, you know, could play, you know, could lead. But how many years of how many good years did I really have left? That's right.

[Rich Davis]

Hold on. Is she the female version of Tom Brady? She like ripped for 40 something?

[Steve Covino]

Hey, dude, I'm serious. I'm serious about that because that's a. It's an honest question. It's. You could see the good in both. That's really it. So really, what. What's the intangible that helps you make that decision in reality? Right. It's going to be fit. At the end of the day, it's about. Well, what fits, you know, it's, it's.

[Rich Davis]

We are filling it for Colin and he is the king of analogies. You could also say a lot of NFL stars. There are a lot of NFL teams that realize that they're not with their forever person. It's like, you know those people you date and you're like, I'll date them for a couple years, but they're not my. I'm not marrying them. And, you know, I'm never gonna marry, meaning I can't win a Super bowl with this person. That's a. That's a lot of people. But where do you put your. Where do you put your stock? That's a great question.

[Steve Covino]

And by the way.

[Rich Davis]

And if the answer was simple, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. And we're gonna move on in a second anyway. But if you're a gm, it really is, I think, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Geno. And you look at guys like that.

[Steve Covino]

And you say, I wouldn't go overpaid, old quarterback. I just wouldn't. I don't think that's the formula. Aaron Rodgers scared me away. Kirk Cousins scared me away. And nothing against Cousins. I like him. He's a good dude. Well, I would find that middle ground guy. It's the compromise, right? The college dude. Too risky, too young, too green, too raw, too baby faced. That dude like Daniel Jones. I feel like, again, there's more fire there, more to prove, more experience. And you wouldn't be paying a lot of money for a guy like that. Or a Zach Wilson, I should say.

[Rich Davis]

Well, let's go old guy for a second.

[Steve Covino]

Daniel Jones got paid.

[Rich Davis]

Put on your. Put on your old guy shoes.

[Steve Covino]

Okay?

[Rich Davis]

What does your dad wear?

[Steve Covino]

Rockports.

[Rich Davis]

Put on your Rockports for a second.

[Steve Covino]

Put on the Nike Monarchs, the ones Mike Tyson wears.

[Rich Davis]

If you go with the old guy, it sometimes pays off. Tom Brady. Tampa. Peyton Manning.

[Steve Covino]

You got a ton of samples. Were two of the greatest quarterbacks ever, though.

[Rich Davis]

But. But I'm saying Brady. Okay, Tampa.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, but that's the Manning.

[Rich Davis]

Hold on. Peyton Manning, Denver. Then you can say, all right, Kurt Warner. Arizona. Got close. You could say Brett Favre for the Vikings. You know, got close, had a good run. There's going to be a team that.

[Steve Covino]

Says, paying a lot of money for names like that. That's. You're the gm, remember? And you brought up two greats.

[Rich Davis]

Let me give you the dumbest scenario, because it's unlikely, but, hey, it's a random Friday, and for Colin, why not?

[Steve Covino]

The compromise is that middle ground dude, let's say Fields, who you think still may have something to prove.

[Rich Davis]

Give me. Give me a team with all the talent in the world and I say this because I'm a Niners fan, so it's a homer answer. But the 49ers, yeah, they're sort of ready to win now. They were hurt this year, but they have the softest schedule I've ever seen for 2025. Take a look at it when you're going to get a chance. If the 49ers don't win 13 games next. Kyle Shanahan should be ashamed of himself. They have the softest schedule I've ever seen ever for 2025. Brock Purdy's your guy. Likely signed a big contract. But what if you put an Aaron Rodgers on that team for a year?

[Steve Covino]

Well, you're a fan. Would you want that?

[Rich Davis]

I think he could do big things with that team music.

[Steve Covino]

I feel like you're nodding your head. You would do that for a year.

[Rich Davis]

You don't think Aaron Rodgers and Kyle Shanahan.

[Steve Covino]

I wouldn't do it.

[Ryan Music]

I listen. I don't think it's the craziest thing. I'm not a Brock Purdy guy. Nothing against him, but I agree with.

[Rich Davis]

Colin the other day who said you don't give that guy $60 million. I agree with Colin when he's like, you don't break out the checkbook and give Brock Purdy 50.

[Ryan Music]

Because I think, I think to your question is what you're approaching with Brock Purdy is maybe do you want Aaron Rodgers for 30 or do you want Brock Purdy for the next four years at 60? And I would say I would rather go Aaron Rodgers, see what you can do in one year than have to be fully financially committed to Brock Purdy based off of what we just saw.

[Rich Davis]

Sounds ridiculous, but if you give Brock Purdy 50, $60 million a year, long term deal versus draft a guy like you said, there might be a guy, I don't know, how about like a dart, some guy that you might be able to pick up in a later round, get a young quarterback, get Aaron Rodgers for one year with an aging team that still has it. I see that Debo Iuk will be back, McCaffrey will be back. You put Aaron Rodgers in that Shanahan system for less money, one year deal, you might have a Tom Brady buck situation on your hands.

[Steve Covino]

I see that because it's a win now league. And you often talk about the window, right? A team has little window, a certain amount of time, a little window to make it happen. And the 49ers have had their window and they're not getting any younger. So I could see what you're saying in this particular case because they have to win now in the next year or so or really never, because there's.

[Rich Davis]

Going to come a time where they need to revamp a little bit.

[Steve Covino]

Right. They're going to have to rebuild eventually. So I do see that sort of desperation move is what it would be because they have to win now. All right, so your thoughts on that? How would you do it if you were the GM? 8 7, 7, 4 for the herd. That's the number. 877-484-3437 877 for the herd. You hit us up at Covinoenrich on social media again. Covino and Rich in for Colin on the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on FOX Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Rad. And of course, the iHeartRadio app.

[Steve Covino]

Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?

[Rich Davis]

We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.

[Steve Covino]

We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss.

[Rich Davis]

And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Steve Covino]

So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up.

[Rich Davis]

As as they say, I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.

[Steve Covino]

Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio on the iHeartRadio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.

[Rich Davis]

And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe no Rich, wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

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V U O R I hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch and I'm exhausted. But turns out the end is near. Right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next Question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also gonna have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha bee, Roy Wood Jr. And Charlamagne tha God. We're gonna take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Steve Covino]

All right, welcome back to the show. Covino and Rich in for calling on the herd. The number 877 for the herd. 877-484-3437. And all of our info at Covino and Rich. If you want to chime in on social media at Covino and Rich. C O V I N O.

[Rich Davis]

You know, the more we think about it here at the studio, a GM trying to figure out what to do with the quarterback position is very much like dating as a single guy in your 30s or 40s.

[Steve Covino]

I'm being dead serious.

[Rich Davis]

It really is. The analogies are so important. 20 something year old. Oh yeah, there's a lot of potential but what a pain in the ass.

[Steve Covino]

Enticing but green and priorities are off and they're not really ready. Yeah, they look good. There's a lot of potential but they're young. Right? Then if you're single and out there and about there, do you want a woman your age? She comes with a lot. She's in her own ways. Can't teach an old dog new tricks, right? She's only got a few good years left like we said.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, look at you Mr. Vane.

[Steve Covino]

I'm being real about this. Right for you. So you'd want someone there somewhere in the middle with experience but not too old. Not going to be a pain in the ass. Established somewhat already. You know that middle ground person who just needs another shot might be the best angle and I've seen it work.

[Rich Davis]

Or has it just coincident? Has it just coincidentally happened a couple times? Meaning is Baker Mayfield.

[Steve Covino]

I think in the past we've been really quick to write off quarterbacks who've been in really crappy situations.

[Rich Davis]

But Baker, Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, like is it just happen to be coincidence that they're all sort of working out with a new shot? I'm going to go back to the one that we were talking about a few minutes ago. If you're the 49ers and you have the lightest schedule on planet Earth for 2025. I said it before, the toughest team on their schedule is the Houston Texans. Honestly, look up the Niner schedule. It is. Vegas will set it at 12 and a half. I bet over under wins. If you don't want to pay Brock Purdy 50, $60 million. If you don't. I feel like they will. I do. As a Niners fan, I feel like John lynch and Shanahan are committed to Purdy. But if you didn't want to, you drafted a young quarterback and picked up Aaron Rodgers on a one year deal and put Aaron Rodgers on his childhood favorite team, the 49ers, the team he thought he should have been on 20 years ago. If you put Aaron Rodgers with Debo, Kittle, McCaffrey, Iuk, Jus Check, you know, Big Trent blocking on the left side, you. You don't think Aaron Rodgers could have one last shot at glory? A guy that we thought stunk the last few years for the jets, based.

[Steve Covino]

On what we saw, I would say no to that. I just feel like he did lose a step. Maybe he played a little cautious because of the injury.

[Rich Davis]

It was year one off, a big injury.

[Steve Covino]

Year one off of an injury. But you don't get better as you get older like that, man. Off an injury like that, I just. I wouldn't do it. But I understand what you're saying. You want to win now, so you might want to take that chance. I would take that chance with a Cousins, a guy like that. So, anyway, your thoughts.

[Rich Davis]

So you think of Kirk Cousins, though, for the 49ers. And I always say the 49ers over.

[Steve Covino]

A Rodgers because to me, Rogers looked really done this year.

[Rich Davis]

Listen, I could say the same about Cousins at times. I'm just saying I'm not bringing up the Niners solely because they're my team. It just. There's very few teams that are in a position to win maybe next year that don't have a set quarterback. Right now, you'd say Purdy set, but he's, you know, as Colin said a couple days back, is Purdy the type of guy you really think should get 50 to 60 million dollars? I remember Colin broke it down into three groups. The guys that like, hey, you gotta pay him. Then there's the guys where you're like, well, I'll take the phone call, we'll talk about it probably. And then the guys, as he said, he hang up on I. As a Niners fan, I love Brock Purdy. I think he's a fun young guy. I love his story. I think he's a good dude.

[Steve Covino]

Probably you'll talk to him, but I.

[Rich Davis]

Don'T think he should be getting 50 to 60 million. I said that Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, like 30, 40 something million is where he should be, but he's not going to take that by any means. So with that said, if you're the Niners, do you say one year of maybe a Kirk Cousins or an Aaron Rodgers and draft a quarterback to just throw into Shanahan system?

[Steve Covino]

You know, I'm going to go back to another Colin count her saying, stars, stars, stars attract Other stars, they do. And there's a lot of star power on your 49ers, and maybe that will attract an Aaron Rodgers.

[Rich Davis]

So to wrap it up.

[Steve Covino]

To wrap it up, I would say it's all about that middle ground. Person in life and on the field. That's where I would put my money. But again, it's an interesting conversation. What would you do? You make the calls. They used to say.

[Rich Davis]

So if you're a gm, one of three paths. As you said, it's not easy to decide nowadays. Veteran revamp. A guy who's had a couple of years of struggle or maybe draft a quarterback too early because it's just a need you have.

[Steve Covino]

These college quarterbacks would be the equivalent to some social media girl dancing around in her bikini. Is that the girl you want to invest in?

[Rich Davis]

I know what you're saying. Unless it's. Unless it's like the elite.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, it's enticing. You know, it looks good in the moment, but is that really where you're putting your money? If you're a gm, that's the equivalent.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

So think about it. Yeah, it looks good, but I don't know if that's the answer for your organization now. There's lots more to get to today. Showtime. Mahomes trivia broke. My homes is stopping by giving away prizes. We got trivia. We're going to talk some Tom Brady. He's in the news. We're gonna talk about signs you messed up signs that you're in the doghouse. All right. Deshaun Watson's in the news, but there's a guy that I follow on social media, Rich, and his name is two Toned the Superstar. Two Toned the Superstar.

[Rich Davis]

Long name hit that guy be telling to trim it down.

[Steve Covino]

He's just a, you know, a social media fight fan. And I'm a fight fan. I'm a boxing, UFC fan. And he's just one of those guys that goes on these crazy rants. He's like, oh, I'm feeling some musty energy. Oh. And he'll say something like, canelo's ducking Benavidez. And I say that respectfully. And he's just a loudmouth kid, and I like him. I like his fight takes. And he went on this rant recently about how he got kicked out of Planet Fitness for wearing Crocs. And I'm sure you didn't see it, so take a listen. Planet Fitness, y'all. Some BS bro told me that you cannot wear Crocs. You can't wear Crocs. On the gym floor in Planet Fitness. The same Planet Fitness that serves delicious hungry Howie's pizza after workouts. The same Planet Fitness that doesn't allow you to slam weights. The same Planet Fitness where all the equipment is low key. Me, y'all got to get it together. This is where y'all draw the line at. Y'all draw the line on Crocs. My Crocs was in sports mode. Wow. So he goes on and on and he talks about his bad experience and they made him go home or change his shoes. It was not allowed on the floor. Now why do we bring this up?

[Rich Davis]

I thought I was cheap going to 24 Hour Fitness. Planet Fitness is like a rung below that. That's like the Spirit Airlines of.

[Steve Covino]

This guy was slaying it on social media. Right. A lot of these dudes aren't getting paid, but I'm sure he's doing all right.

[Rich Davis]

Is he flying?

[Steve Covino]

Frontier but no Soul Plane. But I think that it's worth bringing up because in the next few weeks you're going to see a lot of people at the gym, people you hadn't seen before. And I mentioned the broccoli heads, the alpaca boys and their official gym uniform of pajama pants. And it's always those checkered pajama pants. It could be their girlfriend's pants. I don't know. My 15 year old daughter wears the same ones. The same ones that the boys are wearing to the gym. So these flannel checkered pajama pants with the tank top, you know, the real name, we can't say.

[Rich Davis]

Formerly known as Wifebeater until we realized that's not a great name for a shirt.

[Ryan Music]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

I didn't even want to say it because it's politically incorrect, but they'd wear their tight tank top and Crocs on their feet. Now the question is, do you find Crocs to be okay at the gym? Can you wear Crocs to the gym? I personally have a stance against them ever in life. I think they're the weakest looking shoe. But I lost this war because kids wear them all the time. Right. But do you think they're okay to wear to the gym? Is the question. As you see all these new people for the next few weeks at the gym.

[Rich Davis]

I own a pair of Crocs.

[Steve Covino]

Sorry to hear that.

[Rich Davis]

They're good for gardening.

[Steve Covino]

And your schoolboy son who picks his nose there, you wear the same. Do you wear Velcro sneakers too, like a little schoolboy?

[Rich Davis]

No, but I don't Listen, I'm not going to wear. I'm not going to wear sneakers that.

[Steve Covino]

Light up as the. As your four year old son because he can't tie his shoes. He has an excuse.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, Crocs are great, you know, sitting back by the pool, gardening, running errands around the house.

[Steve Covino]

Which I get it. They're comfy. I've tried them on.

[Rich Davis]

I'm not. I'm not going out for lunch, I'm not going to work, I'm not going out in Crocs, But I think they're okay at the gym.

[Steve Covino]

Okay?

[Rich Davis]

And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Because unless you're doing intense Cardio or you're CrossFit guy or you're doing Orange theory or something, unless you're doing intense workouts, if you're just the guy going to the gym and I'm gonna do arms and bench press today, I think he can wear Crocs. Who's kicking you out of a weak ass gym for wearing Crocs?

[Steve Covino]

Then maybe you're not working hard enough. And he had them in the angle.

[Rich Davis]

He had them in sport mode.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, sport mode. Get out. You get the stupid. That would imply that you're wearing the stupid buckle on the back of your strap. On your heel.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, yeah, the strap.

[Steve Covino]

How lame is this? Sports mode? That means you're not really doing any cardio at all. That means you're not doing any legs at all. And I'm not saying I do. I'm just saying what kind of workout are you really getting in your Crocs? And you know, aside from aesthetically being the weakest look ever. Crocs at the gym. Okay. Or not. Let us know at 8.

[Rich Davis]

7.

[Steve Covino]

7 for the herd. Because I'm here to tell you it's not. That's my stance. I think it's the weakest. It's not functional, it's not fashionable. It's nothing. It's nothing positive here. Crocs at the gym.

[Rich Davis]

I think your take is whack.

[Steve Covino]

All right, well, but what, what do.

[Rich Davis]

You care about someone wearing Crocs? They're not wearing flip flops. That's dangerous. You could drop a weight on your foot or something.

[Steve Covino]

No, it is a liability. I would imagine that's why Planet Fitness told them that they can't. Because some dudes at the gym, he's wearing Crocs like an idiot and he slides out of sports mode because you're being held together by a little rubber band and he turns an ankle Rolls an ankle. Maybe he's on the treadmill or something. He's doing some cleans. He's doing a set of curls. He loses his balance, rolls an ankle, and now it's on the gym. The gym's lying.

[Rich Davis]

She's never responsible for you.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know. Because. What?

[Rich Davis]

Why? Well, why else you think the gym's responsible for you if you get hurt at the gym, if you get injured?

[Steve Covino]

I don't know. I don't know what sort of.

[Rich Davis]

I know.

[Steve Covino]

How do you know? How do you know that?

[Rich Davis]

When you sign your contract. When you sign your contract for the gym, you think, if you get hurt.

[Steve Covino]

At the gym, why would the gym not allow these shoes on their floor?

[Rich Davis]

Because they don't like how they look. I'm more offended by people. They wear, like, jeans at the gym. And I know that's usually a guy that gets caught up at work and he's like, oh, man, I forgot my shorts.

[Steve Covino]

I'm allowed to say this because I'm half Mexican, right? But it's usually, like, a foreign guy.

[Rich Davis]

You're right about that, right?

[Steve Covino]

He's wearing slacks. He's wearing slacks on the treadmill.

[Rich Davis]

If you're on the pec deck doing chest in pants because you forgot your gym shorts, I forget.

[Steve Covino]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

I get it.

[Steve Covino]

I've done it. I've done it. We've all done it.

[Rich Davis]

Crocs at the gym. So, yeah, not a great look, but I don't see how you could say it's unacceptable.

[Steve Covino]

You know, Danny G. Agrees with you. Music. How do you feel about it? I know you're a proud owner of Crocs.

[Ryan Music]

Absolutely no Crocs at the gym.

[Steve Covino]

But not at the gym.

[Ryan Music]

Not even. Not even up for discussion. I'm with Rich. That, you know, Crocs serve a lot of purposes. They're actually great for washing the car.

[Rich Davis]

You know, Great example.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Ryan Music]

You know, but at the gym is absolutely blasphemous.

[Rich Davis]

By the way.

[Steve Covino]

You know how many people wash their car in today's world? Like, five days? No.

[Ryan Music]

You need a hard day's work.

[Steve Covino]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

I like washing the car.

[Steve Covino]

You remember days of washing your car. They're few and far between. It's not as common as it used to be, is my point. That just really doesn't happen as often as it used to. But I look at it this way, too, pun intended. I find it to be a slippery slope because you wear your Crocs to the gym, and then you're like, yeah, but I only wear them to the gym. Then you're wearing them to cvs. Then you're wearing them to the supermarket. Then you're wearing them out and you look like a clown and I don't want to hang with you. That's really it. So. And then you have to ask yourself, are you wearing the uniform of a high school boy? That's their uniform. Think about it. Crocs at the gym. I know our buddy Spot has a particular stance on it too, but he's sleeping this morning. Oh, okay. But he's. Yeah, he's sleeping. I mean, we did start earlier than usual, in his defense. Or I'm doing my job.

[Rich Davis]

But yes, you're the guy with the hottest take on this and you're sitting there scratching your butt. Hey, listen, we're gonna get to the big TV game of the week. We got Deshaun Watson in the news, Tom Brady a bunch coming up. CNR in for the herd here on fox Sports Radio.

[Steve Covino]

One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on.

[Rich Davis]

Demand whenever you'd like.

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V U O R I hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch and I'm exhausted. But turns out the end is near. Right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next Question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days they and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha bee, Roy Wood Jr. And Charlamagne tha God. We're gonna take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Davis]

All right, cnr Covino and Rich in for Colin on the Herd.

[Steve Covino]

I wanna, I wanna get back to Crocs, the hot topic of the day. Yeah, but our boy Ryan is here and he's ready for the Herdline news.

[Rich Davis]

Might as well. Let's do it.

[Steve Covino]

Turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.

[Ryan Music]

So good to be with you guys. Cavino and Rich here on the Herd. All right, let's start things off with some college football. Only four teams remain. Penn State, Texas, Ohio State and now Notre Dame. Two interesting notes on this first ever 12 team playoff that has unfolded. Teams with a buy. Oh, and four big over conference champions over five.

[Rich Davis]

Wow. Now.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Ryan Music]

Per the athletic SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said he is quote, absolutely interested in changing the current playoff format for the 2025 season. One year and they're already looking at big changes.

[Rich Davis]

Change it up. Well, you saw that in Major League Baseball when they expanded the playoff. Some of the high seeds out in the first round you get cold. I don't know. There's adjustments that always need to be made when they change rules like that.

[Ryan Music]

Yeah, look, I think we're actually probably all on board with this. Obviously, a lot was made about the structure of the playoff bracket when it was first announced, and the results thus far seem to back up all of those complaints.

[Rich Davis]

So, you know, music. You said something earlier today that really was interesting because the expanded playoff. You're seeing some of these players on big colleges. You've seen them a couple more times in prime time.

[Ryan Music]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And that will affect their draft status for sure. It really will. Some of these guys play a couple good games in the playoff now. Their stock rises.

[Ryan Music]

Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, we'll turn our attention to the pros now. The New York jets, well, they are. Their search for a new head coach is well underway. Multiple reports today saying. Interviewing Mike Vrabel. Happening today. That's right, the former Titans head coach who has been with the Cleveland Browns this season. His contract with the Browns as a defensive analyst has expired, so he is free to interview with whoever. Whoever he'd like. Starting off with the Jets. The jets have also interviewed former Panthers and commanders head coach Ron Rivera, and expected, although not official, but they are expected to at some point speak with former jets head coach Rex.

[Rich Davis]

I love this dude. Sexy Rexy, let me tell you. I saw an article in the New York Post and it was really rude. It was like, the jets don't need round two of the classless Rex Ryan. I'm like, how rude? It was a last class.

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[Rich Davis]

I mean, listen, he's rough around the edges. I love. Recently, he talked about his love of feet. He finally talked about that. I thought it was hilarious.

[Steve Covino]

It was the screen on his phone. Did you see that?

[Ryan Music]

I did.

[Rich Davis]

I love feet.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. I mean, he loves it.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, if you're a Jets fan, which I'm not, as much as Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez didn't get there. They were the closest that team was to any glory over the last 25 years. So I don't think Rex part two is that terrible of an idea. Listen, he brings a vibe, I'll tell you that.

[Steve Covino]

You like Rainbow?

[Rich Davis]

I do like Rabel. I think Rabel's like a cool guy also.

[Steve Covino]

Sure.

[Ryan Music]

Yeah. I think. I think if you had your number one choice, just no questions asked, I think most people with the jets or even who just follow the NFL would say, yeah, you would hire Vrabel.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Music]

But the idea of Rex Ryan is not bad because to your point, look, there was a long article in the Athletic about all of the stuff that happens behind the scenes with the jets, with ownership and how they empower or don't empower the front office, the coaching staff. And as you pointed out, Rich, the one guy who's been able to manage all of that and have success and some pretty decent success in the postseason is Rex Ryan.

[Steve Covino]

Trying if I touch them.

[Ryan Music]

Yeah, I would mind, actually. Thank you. So, yeah, no, we're going to avoid that. All right, wrap it up with this. AFC Pro bowl quarterbacks, the selections are out and well, it was Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson and of course, people freaking out because Patrick Levon Mahomes the second for the first time in his seven years as a starter not selected to the Pro Bowl.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, on his Camino, on his, on his page. There won't be a little star next to the son. Is Pro Football Reference probably mad about that.

[Steve Covino]

We're going to find out when we play Showtime of Holmes Trivia later up one.

[Ryan Music]

One quick note after the slow start to the season, Patrick Mahomes last six games, 11 touchdowns, zero picks.

[Steve Covino]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

Peaking at the right time. Thank you, music. Appreciate you, bud.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you, man.

[Rich Davis]

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.

[Steve Covino]

So we're going to do Rich's big TV game of the week next hour. Rich. It's one of our features heading into the weekend. Plus, later on in the show, weekend hobnobbing. All the things you need to watch in the world of sports and entertainment. So you know what's going on when you're hobnobbing at work on Monday when the new year officially begins. Right. So what to watch, we'll go over that, plus trivia and prizes. But your thoughts on Crocs, any final thoughts? Any final words? Crocs at the gym.

[Rich Davis]

I think going to the gym is already, you know, I had this thought. When you see all the new people.

[Steve Covino]

Taking a step in the right direction but you're doing it in a Croc.

[Rich Davis]

Is it really a step in the right direction?

[Steve Covino]

It's like a, I don't know.

[Rich Davis]

I think anyone going to the gym for the first time this week, instead of looking at them as like an obstacle and a pain in the ass.

[Steve Covino]

Applaud them, give them a little salt. Right?

[Rich Davis]

I mean, like, isn't that like, don't you want them to succeed? Like, you see some guy on the treadmill, it's like, good for you, good for you.

[Steve Covino]

Good for you. Just hurry up.

[Rich Davis]

All right, we got more. Covino and Rich next in for Colin. It's the herd Friday. Let's go.

[Steve Covino]

Ah.

[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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