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Jon Stewart
Catch Jon Stewart back in action on the Daily show and in your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondents and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners like in depth interviews and a roundup of the weeks top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Jon Stewart
Now let's get this party.
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LaVar Arrington
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I would like to say this and we are efforting catching up with Lavar Arrington who by the way is in Arizona where his Penn State Nittany Lions took care of business last night and took care of business against Boise State and the game kind of played out pretty much how you expected the game to play out. That Boise State was going to battle because they play hard. If Ashton Genti didn't have a big time monster performance, then Boise State was going to be up against it. But ultimately Penn State was the better team. They were favored by 1112 points. Whatever it closed at going into the game for a reason And Penn State got it done. And so what we've gotten thus far through the first five games of the College Football Playoff, this new expanded 12 team college football Playoff, what we've gotten is basically chalk. You've gotten all the results that you expected and you've gotten, for the most part, pretty uncompetitive games. And so the feeling would be, all right, well then what was the point of this? I mean, I thought this was supposed to add some intrigue. I thought this was supposed to add some, some new layer to college football. I thought the, the College Football Playoff was supposed to give us a different viewpoint and a different look and, and a different vibe when it comes to the entire thing. So what was the point? And my pushback on that would be, what's the complaint? Like, there is no guarantees that when you go into this thing that you're gonna get good games. There's no guarantees. And I got news for you. There's no guarantees you're gonna get good games. Whenever you turn on football or basketball or baseball. Like, there's no guarantees. You ever gotten to a movie, walked in, been like, man, really excited about this thing, Half hour in, you're like, this sucked out loud. It happens. Now you could be one of those people who walks up to the person who ripped your ticket, who probably doesn't want to be there anyways, and be like, hey, movie didn't live up to my expectations. Can I get my 1325 back? And by the way, the popcorn was a little dry. You could take that approach. You could be one of those nerds who, after Manny Pacquiao fought Floyd Mayweather and people shelled out a hundred dollars to watch the fight, who went and complained afterwards and said, I paid a hundred dollars for this and it didn't live up to my expectations, okay? And then they found out Manny Pacquiao had like a torn rotator cuff. And they thought, you know what, he should have disclosed that before the fight because otherwise I would have felt a lot differently about shelling out my a hundred dollars. Dude, what are you about? If the guy didn't fight, you would have complained. Then if you would have pulled out last minute and, and canceled. But this is the problem when it comes to college football. No matter what, you're going to have a complaint. Because I got news for you. It could have been a 12 team playoff. It could have been a 16 team playoff. You could have thrown in 20 teams. Christ, you could have done a 64 team field like college basketball, and somebody somewhere would have found a Way to complain. Because that's what it is. That's what college football has bred. Complaints. Like every single story that comes out of college football, somebody's on the opposite side pounding the table against it. Cam Ward decides, hey, you know what? I want to go chase a record, and then I want to sit out the second half. How dare he. Wait, wait, what? It was a pop tarts bowl. Like, you literally had an unhealthy toasted strudel jump out of a giant fake toaster at the end of the game and people were. Because some guy didn't participate in all of it. What, what are we talking about here? Did you see the Cheese it Bowl yesterday? You had people get married at the Cheez it bowl. It's the Cheez It Bowl. Like there was a guy sitting in a Jacuzzi filled with crackers talking about the snack, not trying to win an Antonio Brown award. But if he wants to hand out any more of those, I'll gladly accept. But the point is, no matter what, there's gonna be a complaint and there's gonna be a problem. And I looked at last night bar, and I thought to myself, you know what? Hey, Penn State took care of business. Boise State played hard, but I would not rather go back to a four team college football playoff because at least you gave the underdog a chance in that spot.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, they weren't the underdog. They were ranked higher. They came in seated higher. They, they had a bye week because of what they accomplished during the season. I think that there's going to always be debates of why people like something and why they don't. Otherwise there wouldn't be any topics like, nobody's ever going to get a perfect scenario for a playo. And you're not always like, to me, I've been really thinking about this, right? It's like they're saying their commitment is to get the best teams into, into the playoff. And, and so there's all these different variables, your strength of schedule and stuff like that. There's all these different variables. But at the end of the day, Jonas, you set up the schedule. You know what the schedule is coming in, right? So if a team wins out with their schedule, knowing when they come into the season that it's not a schedule that's strong enough to outweigh the other schedules that are, are out there, then you, you, I, I would say you judge it based off of that if you want to try and do it based off of strength of schedule. But at the end of the day, I Think to me, if you win your conference and if, if you're a team that, that has shown with their record, if, like, say it's an independent like Notre Dame, if you've shown with your record that you should be in the playoff, then be in the playoff. And, and let's line them up. Let's, let's do the playoff. And who wins, wins. Who loses, loses. I just think that it gets crazy to me because here's the narrative. Here's the narrative. Oh, these aren't the best teams. The best teams aren't in there. Alabama should have been in there. Alabama just lost yesterday. Alabama lost. Like, oh, this team, this team should have been in there. Miami should have been in there. Miami lost. Okay. Oh, you had opt outs. Maybe the opt outs play, maybe Cam Ward plays. I don't care. They lost. They lost. So there is no justification for saying some of these teams that didn't play in the playoff should have been in the playoff because some of those teams have lost their bowl games that they're playing in. So to me, if a team gets granted and earns the opportunity to be in the playoff and the bracket is made, shut the F up and enjoy the bracket, enjoy the games. Like, what else is there to it? I, I don't understand why there's such outrage. If Boise beats, if Boise beats Penn State, are people complaining? If Indiana beats Notre Dame, are, are people complaining? If the lower seat teams that get in beat the higher C teams, are people still complaining? They'll probably find something different, a different narrative to complain about, but they're still going to be complaining. You're not going to make all of the pundits happy. You're not going to make all of the fans happy. You're not going to make everybody happy with what it is that, that the college playoff represents. So keep the number the same. I love the fact that there's a bracket in a tournament that, that has this many teams. I like the fact that you have matchups and, and the matchups have been made by the schedule makers, by the bracket makers, the tournament makers. Just, just accept it for what it is and enjoy it. My God, what is all of the outrage for all of the time, it's weird.
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LaVar Arrington
And, and for the people that are like, well, it's not the best teams. All right, well, you know how you determine the best teams? You play games during the regular season. And this is, you know, this is going to be a weird concept, but if you win a lot of those and don't lose a lot of those, you are determined to be the best team in college football. And there were teams that lost less than Miami and Alabama. Thus they got in and Miami and Alabama didn't. That's the way this works. I understand strength of schedule.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah. The best teams don't always perform well enough to make it in. Like, that's just the bottom line. They might have been a better team, but something happened that said, okay, they're not the best team or they didn't play the best game. Like that could have been Notre Dame with that, that Northern Illinois loss. Right. Illinois. Like, that could have been a, A, you know, that could have been something that kept them out. You know, you just never know.
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LaVar Arrington
It's just there's so. People are so conditioned to, to complain and bitch about college football and everything. Yeah. And they, they can't, they can't just let it be. Listen, there's no guarantees that you're going to get a good game every single time. And so, so Penn State did what they've supposed to do, what they were supposed to do in the first two games.
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Jonas Knox
And they were in a game.
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LaVar Arrington
Yes, they were.
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Jonas Knox
And, and that was a game last night like that. People weren't. People were nervous in that stadium. It was a game.
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LaVar Arrington
The game didn't look like the SMU game where SMU completely melted. I mean, they couldn't handle the conditions, they couldn't handle the stage. They look like they were rattled from the get go, like there were opportunities, like it wasn't a clean game for Penn State. They turned the ball over.
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Jonas Knox
Like the ball over.
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LaVar Arrington
So I came away from that going, Penn State did what they should have done. And I thought Boise State represented themselves well, but it played out how you would have expected it. If they were, if they could stop Ashton Genty, for the most part, then they were going to have success. Like, I look at it and I.
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Jonas Knox
Think, what's the beef? What's the beef?
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LaVar Arrington
And I think that also there's a lot of people that hold on to the narratives that you have about certain programs or coaches going into things and you know, the narrative about James Franklin. Well, he doesn't win big games. He doesn't win big games. Look at his record against this team, this team and this team and blah, blah, blah. So the hope is, yeah, it's two teams. So the hope is we got beef.
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Jonas Knox
With James Franklin over two teams. It's two teams.
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LaVar Arrington
So the hope is we need James Franklin to lose so we can hold on to the take that we had three weeks ago when they lost, you know, Ohio State or they lost to Oregon. It's like, I just, I look at it and I think to myself, we're better off this way. And I'm one of those people that I didn't agree with expanding past four teams. I thought, no, four is fine. If you're going to do anything, go to six, give a buy to the first two, and then you have your semi final. And then I start to look at it and go, first of all, I'm arguing upstream because it's more money and the money dictates everything, so it's going to happen regardless. And secondly, it's the first year. We don't know. Look, we don't know how these games, Arizona State could upset Texas. We don't know is that is all of a sudden the College Football Playoff going to be worthwhile because Arizona State upstates to upsets Texas. Like, there's no guarantees you're going to get good matchups. Do you remember watching super bowls in the 80s? There was like a stretch to where every super bowl was a blowout for like nine, 10 years in a row. I didn't see people complaining, like, oh, they've got to redo this whole super bowl thing. No, you just understood, hey, best team from this conference, best team from that conference, they get together, hopefully we get a good game. But there's no guarantees.
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Jonas Knox
That's the point. Jonas, sports are sports. Like, if you're not a decision maker for, for the playoff, watch the games and enjoy the games. Like, why does there have to be all these conspiracy theories? And like I said, for sports talk radios, for sports talk television, podcasting and all, I get it. But the more people try to sound smart about it, the dumber they sound. Like, let it play out. It's a game. You play the game. And if you've earned the right by what took place during the season, if you're in there and I don't care about you arguing, well, maybe you didn't earn the right. Yeah, you did, because you're in, you got in. So if you got in, you got in. Play the games. Play the games. The brackets are the brackets. Play the games. Like, if it's what you expected, good, bet money. If you're so brilliant, bet money and become a billionaire. Bet all your money. Go bet your house, your home, your kids, your wife, your husband, whoever, Go bet it all. If you got it so figured out, go bet it all. If these teams aren't supposed to be here that you're saying, and this, that bet it all. Go ahead, give it all up. Let's see how confident you are.
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LaVar Arrington
Let me tell you. So look, I've been the, I've been pounding the table for. We've got to start building this stuff around gambling because it's, it makes things interesting when they probably shouldn't be. And I'll say this, when Boise State was driving down the field and it looked like they were going to score that garbage time touchdown, that would have impacted a significant amount of bets. Who had? Penn State -11. They're holding on to that 17 point lead and people are sweating their balls off thinking to themselves, oh God, I'm going to lose here on a garbage time touchdown. But Penn State picked it off in the end zone and they. And it saved the day. Find some, find something compelling about it. If you get a plain piece of chicken at a restaurant, ask for some hot sauce. Gambling is the hot sauce of sports and people need to start embracing it. For Christ's sake.
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Jonas Knox
I love that. That's a T shirt.
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LaVar Arrington
Damn right.
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Jonas Knox
If you don't like a regular Wayne, get some dipping sauce.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah. Because if you don't, if you don't put buffalo sauce on a wing. What is it?
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Jonas Knox
It's a damn drumstick.
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LaVar Arrington
Making a buffalo wing.
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Jonas Knox
Unbelievable. Oh, man.
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LaVar Arrington
That is a shirt, by the way. Well, we'll save, we'll get details from you throughout the course of the show on what, what Arizona look like out there.
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Jonas Knox
Arizona was, bro. It was New Year's Eve. It's New Year's Day.
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LaVar Arrington
Lock.
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Jonas Knox
All I could tell you is if you've ever been to Scottsdale, Arizona. Sheesh. On a regular day, on a regular weekend, you know, they call it Sunday fun day around here, you know, because Sunday is like the day that's like. They're deemed Friday or Saturday for most places. Right. If you've ever been here for that, you know what, what the environment is in Scottsdale. I've never been here for, I've never been here for, for New Year's. I've never been here for New Year and I ain't never coming back. And I don't know why I'm doing this show today.
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LaVar Arrington
Can't do it.
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Jonas Knox
Can't do it.
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LaVar Arrington
But there's a, there's a reason why a lot of retired baseball players retire in Arizona because they go out there for spring training during the course of their career and they go, you know what?
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Jonas Knox
It's the taxes. They come out here, it's purely because of the taxes.
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LaVar Arrington
That's right. It's. That blonde tax.
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Jonas Knox
Oh.
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LaVar Arrington
It'S that silicone tax, man.
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Jonas Knox
Damn. They called up, they called a mountain out here. Camelback Mountain. And they got it right. They got it right. God dang it, they got it right.
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LaVar Arrington
It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. It's lavar Arrington. Jonas Knox in for calling. Coming up next here though, on FOX Sports Radio. Listen, this shouldn't have even gotten this far. This discussion about somebody in the NFL shouldn't have even gotten this far, but apparently here we are. We'll get into that for you next here on FOX Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
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Colin Cowherd
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LaVar Arrington
It's the Herd, fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin and the crew here. And a happy New Year to you and yours out there coming up at about 20 minutes from now here on FSR, a little parting gift from one organization to one player in the NFL. Little parting gift. We'll have the details on that for you here on Fox Sports Radio. So, var. I mean, this is just a real stunner. You talk about breaking news out of the NFL. Niners owner Jed York has told the San Francisco Standard that Kyle Shanahan and John lynch aren't going anywhere, which is. Which is a real.
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Jon Stewart
Whoa.
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Jonas Knox
Which I got to tell you, do we have the breaking news? Do we have the breaking news effect?
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LaVar Arrington
Really?
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Jonas Knox
Can we do that again? You know what, Chris? Do you have the breaking news?
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LaVar Arrington
I. I don't want.
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Jonas Knox
I don't want Dan to get mad at me. All right, all right.
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LaVar Arrington
You talk.
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Jonas Knox
All right.
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LaVar Arrington
You talk about news that really knocked my D in the dirt. Poof. Just a real stutter.
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Jonas Knox
Whoa, Nelly.
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LaVar Arrington
This was. This was thrown out there. This was thrown out there. It's not. And it's not to take shots. And Mike Florio does a great job, but this was thrown out there as a what if from Mike Florio that for some reason spread like wildfire. Like, I don't get it. I didn't understand it. Oh, maybe the Bears should call up Kyle Shanahan, the Niners, and because it feels like it's run its course. Dude, they had a down year coming off a Super Bowl. I'm not saying the window hasn't closed as far as this window, this championship window for the 49ers. But getting rid of those guys doesn't exactly open up another one quicker.
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Jonas Knox
Like, it feels like rebuild.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah, like it feels like. Like that. Now you're building. Finding a new coach, finding A new gm, like everybody wants a Kyle Shanahan branch off the tree when they hire coaches. Now, why would the Niners let him walk for any reason whatsoever other than he just wanted out of there, which he doesn't.
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Jonas Knox
And I think the same thing exists for John lynch as well. If you're going to have to rebuild a team like that team went to two Super Bowls, correct?
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
Like Kyle Shanahan, John lynch, he's. They taking the, the, the. The kind of core pieces of, of that, that 49ers team and they've gone to multiple Super Bowls and they've had a ton of success. They add Christian McCaffrey, it looked as though they were going to have more success than what they did before. Maybe that take. But you dealt with injuries. I mean, they might. If Greenlaw doesn't go down in that super bowl, maybe that super bowl plays out differently.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
You know, and you, you know, there's so many different things that have happened to, to this, this 49ers team, injury wise, that you would say if this didn't happen, where are they at? Right. If the lights don't go out, where are they at? You know, which. That wasn't, that was horrible. But, but, but I'm just saying at the end of the day, the 49ers have had some things happen to them where you'd be like, if this didn't happen, what would have. What could have been. If I'm going to, if I'm going to have to start over because of contracts, because of players that are, you know, injured or retiring or whatever it may be, if I'm going to rebuild, I'm not looking for a different GM and a different coach than John lynch and Kyle Shanahan to do it. Like, I'm just not. So that it, it really is kind of a comical conversation because that, the, the team that they have right now, sure, sure they, they, they've underperformed this year, but when you take a good hard look at the body of work and, and what they've had to do with main pieces, these weren't, these weren't just, you know, cogs of the machine that you could just replace. These were main guys. Trent Williams going down like, he's arguably. I mean, he's up there with the greatest offensive tackles to ever play the game. He's down, he's hurt. You know, I, you goes out. So now your number one threat, your downfield threat, he's. He's not even there. After you spend a whole entire off season trying to figure out what you were going to do with the situation. Debo Samuels was dealing with injuries this year. Brock Purdy was dealing with injuries this year, still dealing with them. Now your whole team was decimated. Greenlog couldn't come back. He tried. He couldn't even come back. You were decimated with, with just, just as much as a team like Detroit. You know, you could look at Detroit's injuries and say that there, there are, you know, there would have been reasons for them not to do well at some point based off of all of those injuries. Well, it happened to San Fran this year. They weren't able to overcome their injuries. I don't think it was coaching. I don't think it was the way that the team is being ran by the gm. And I just think that you ran into a situation where you had to navigate what you had to navigate.
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LaVar Arrington
It was a sneak bit year. I mean like all the stuff that happened before the year. McCaffrey, you know, to your point, the injury, that was really. They thought he was going to play the first week of the season and then it was like, no, maybe he's going to be out till November. Wait, what? Like that, he, like that wasn't anywhere on the injury report that we were told about. And then you had the Brandon Iuk injury and before the season it was his contract and he didn't, you know, there was issues at practice where he didn't want to wear the same color pants or shorts as everybody. Like there was just always something. You had a guy get shot like Pierce all got shot at three in the afternoon in San Francisco because somebody wanted his Rolex. It felt like everything that was going to go wrong with this, that could go wrong for this team went wrong this year. And one of the things that I do think is so they talk about, well, you know, they've gotten to the super bowl, but they've come up short. So they need to make some changes. First of all, you came up short to Patrick Mahomes. Secondly, you probably should have won both those games. And thirdly, you remember the conversation that everyone always has about Joe Gibbs. They talk about, oh, you know, listen, he's, he's taken, he's won a Super bowl with all these different quarterbacks. Like you're given a certain amount of credit if you can do it with different guys. And it's not just the same quarterback every time. Dude, Kyle Shanahan took Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy to the Super Bowl. Like, it's not like he's had a one year. Oh, listen, it was this one time and other than that, they've fallen apart. Like. No, no. Like he's taken multiple and been a part of multiple teams with different looks at that position to the Super Bowl. I don't know what evidence, what more evidence. You need to understand that, yeah, this guy kind of knows what he's doing. He kind of knows how to build around that position here.
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Jonas Knox
Well, in Washington's case, they could have won with any quarterback because of the personnel that they had, you know, with the Hogs, you know, with their, their backfield, with their receivers, with the, with the, the posse, you know, they could have won with any quarterback, and they did win with any quarterback. I think this is a different situation with, with San Francisco and I think that you've, you've seen a team with, with Kyle Shanahan evolved through the years. I think his, his offensive prowess has been a tremendous asset to him, but he's ultimately going to have to adjust and adapt and evolve if he's going to continue to have the success. What was new, fresh, but yet mixed and meshed in with the old way of how things were done, like how his, his father did things with the offenses and the brilliance that he bring with that zone blocking scheme. Well, Kyle Shanahan evolved it and molded it in a way where he made it his. And I think he's got to do it again. I think he's got to do it again. They just, they got to stay healthy. They got to figure out who's going to be on this roster. And I think it just kind of is as simple as that. Jonas is that there has to be an evolution as to what he's doing offensively and you'd assume that he'll self scout in, in the off season and he'll start to figure out ways that he can have more success than what he did and possibly ultimately maybe have more success. Even if, or have success. I say a measure of success even if you find yourself dealing with the injuries, because again, with what you got Ben Johnson doing and, and Dan Campbell in Detroit, they haven't, they haven't fallen off because of injuries. If there's any team that could blame injuries for a fall off, it would have been Detroit and they have not, they have not fallen off and they have been able to maintain a high level of, of execution. And I think that that's what these guys are going to have to focus in on in San Francisco.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah, I just, I don't know how that makes your team Better. I'm, I don't, you know, like. Well, you know, it's just, it's, it's really run its course because, look, the Raiders giving away John Gr. Like, there's probably, you know, if you were to go back and look at that and say, well, they traded away Gruden. Yeah, that probably a regrettable moment, especially in the super bowl, when Gruden knew exactly what plays they were running. And that's, you know, what led to Tampa Bay winning that game. I just, sometimes this stuff is thrown out there and people just run with it. And like I said, I don't blame Florio for throwing stuff out there. Like, he'll, he'll throw out and he'll speculate about stuff, and that's.
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Jonas Knox
You said throw up, Throw out. Oh. Oh, okay.
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LaVar Arrington
By the way, do you see any people, you know, letting it, letting it fly out there? Nobody.
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Jonas Knox
Real pros out here.
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LaVar Arrington
Real pros and really handle it out there.
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Jonas Knox
They really knew how to hand. They handled their business last night.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah. So we will, you know, listen.
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Jonas Knox
Nobody carried out nothing. Like just, I mean, they had to kick people out. Did you make it all tell. Lobby.
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LaVar Arrington
Did you make it all the way to midnight?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, I was, I was, I was out. I was, I was out last night. Lavar was out. La. Was out last night, but I was in my hotel. So maybe. But, but I am at the, the Ambassador. So it was, this was a vibe. It was a vibe here.
- [32:27]
LaVar Arrington
Nothing better.
- [32:27]
Jonas Knox
I was underdressed. I was terribly underdressed, but I had just left from a football game, so I wasn't going to switch it up. You know what I mean? I just went with it. But I was terribly underdressed.
- [32:37]
LaVar Arrington
Our guy, Kirk Kretchmeyer is actually making the track. He was at the game last night. He's en route. He sent me a text a little while ago saying he's driving to the Rose bowl as we speak. So he's on the commute from Arizona over to the Rose bowl to watch that big one there between Oregon, Ohio State, which is going to be a beast of a game that's going to be a lot of fun. Listen, it looks like Arizona showed up. What was the crowd split, by the way?
- [33:08]
Jonas Knox
It might have been 60, 40, maybe 55, you know, 45, maybe, you know, and it was Boise. They were there, man. They, they, they showed up. But it was almost split down the line. It. But, But Boise, they were, they were louder. They were definitely louder. So it felt like a Boise home game.
- [33:33]
LaVar Arrington
Did. Were you on the Sidelines in like a hunting hat or something like that. Yeah. Okay, so somebody, somebody sent a, a tweet asking if that was you, so.
- [33:43]
Jonas Knox
That was me.
- [33:44]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. Wasn't sure, Wasn't sure what the attire was or.
- [33:48]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, you know, it's my stick city hat, that's all.
- [33:51]
LaVar Arrington
What up, sticks?
- [33:57]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, I got to stand with my son, which was really cool, who's now a member of the football team. So, you know.
- [34:06]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, that's. No, that's awesome. Yeah, listen, it was. Look, I enjoyed the game. I thought it was a fun game. Ashton Chetty got lit up after a, a turnover.
- [34:16]
Jonas Knox
That was, they was hunting him.
- [34:19]
LaVar Arrington
Now that wasn't very nice.
- [34:20]
Jonas Knox
He got it, he got his yardage. But they, hey, them boys was out there hunting him. I can guarantee you that young man is sore as hell day, man. They was slamming him all over the place, man, and they was thumping him, so. But he's a warrior, man. I liked his, I like his game, man. He definitely is a warrior and he's going to be a good one for, for years to come.
- [34:44]
LaVar Arrington
So he was, he was literally in a shootout like Boise State was in a shootout against Oregon. It was Dylan Gabriel against Ashton Genty. Like, he was just ripping off 70 yard runs in that game to keep him, keep him alive. So he had a fantastic year, man. Man, really, really good there.
- [35:01]
Jonas Knox
He had a, he had a brilliant game yesterday. It's, I mean, you have a defense like that that's built the way that it's built up front and has athletes on the back end, I mean, and he was still able to, to reach 100 yards, man, like, and everybody in the world, everybody in the stadium, everybody on the field, everybody knew that every play, every other play, you gotta just listen, just go after Genty. Every single play. Like, don't worry about anything else. Just worry about getting to Genti. And he was still able to get to 100 yards. So that's pretty special, man.
- [35:39]
LaVar Arrington
I was watching the Hawaii Boise State game because I have no life. And I was watching it on. I don't even know what the name of the app is, but I think it's like Team One sports because that's the only way you can watch Hawaii games or that one might have been on cbs, whatever it was on. And I was watching it earlier in the year and I'm listening to the, to the broadcasters from Hawaii be like, you know, listen, I mean, look, I know the Rainbow warriors are trailing right now, but I think they've done a really good job at containing Ashton Gente, and he was still averaging like 7.9 yards of carry. Like every time he touched the ball he was picking up eight yards a clip. So that looked significantly different than last night where he was getting a beating at certain points during that game, but represented themselves well. And there's some thought. I saw a mock draft that came out that some people think he. There's a shot he might be a top 10 pick. So the running back is resurging. So we will.
- [36:34]
Jonas Knox
I mean, I wouldn't get, I wouldn't get carried away on running backs resurging, but he is. I mean, Q brought him up early on in the season and you guys talked about him and I started paying attention to him after that. I mean, he literally almost beat Oregon and Oregon is the best team in, in America right now. I mean, you know, it could be debatable and turn and you know, if it's Ohio State, but I think it's. It's Oregon for now. And, and they had to beat them with a last second kick.
- [37:02]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [37:03]
Jonas Knox
And that's really largely in part what Genty was able to do in that game. So. Yeah, man, I give him his props. I give Boise their props. You know, they went out there and, and they fought and they played a. You know, it was a valiant effort if you ask me. It was not a just a runaway game. It was not just a runaway game. It had the potential to go. There was like two or three times during that game where the momentum had clearly shifted one side to the other and it could have gone either way at those points in time. And, and so anytime you are a part of a game like that, you know, you, you come away from that game knowing that you were in a game and you had to win that game. They belong there. And it was, to me, it was a super competitive game and, and good for them. Good for. Good for Ashton Genty and, and Boise coming in and playing the way that.
- [37:57]
LaVar Arrington
They did and hopefully their fan around after the game and just went out and got lit up in Arizona afterwards.
- [38:05]
Jonas Knox
Some dude tried to fight me.
- [38:06]
LaVar Arrington
Really?
- [38:07]
Jonas Knox
I mean. Oh, he tried to fight me. I was on my way to, to where, you know, we were going to depart and you know, some of the people with me were doing the we are chant and, and I guess the two dudes that were walking back, one dude bumped me like, like, he bumped me like. And it was late. Like I, I caught on to it late. Jonas, you know, like, like, did this guy just bump me? I turned. I, I didn't know what it was until I right, I turned and I saw that it was a guy with Boise State orange on, right? So then I realized that he had bumped me on purpose, you know, so then it was too late. Like, it would have been too late for me to run back up on him, you know what I mean, and throw down. So I let that one go. Then we're walking and we're not like, like, you know, we're not too far away from the first incident that takes place. And the people I'm with, they're saying that we are a chant this, that now. And this dude go, he looks at me, he goes, f you, you effing puss. Yeah. And. And then he said, hey, look, look. And then he said, he said, you soft. I. I'll whip you. And I'm looking at the dude, I'm going to punch your face, man. I went into tunnel vision, bro. I went to tunnel vision. I almost, it almost went down last night.
- [39:27]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, I heard because I actually did see a report on that, that you lifted up your shirt and said, we got a problem here, we got a problem here. And then like everybody kind of jumped in their convertible and sped off.
- [39:38]
Jonas Knox
So, yeah, it could have been all about the burner, you know what I mean? Go to burner.com lavar you get you a nice little burner. That's non lethal rounds, people.
- [39:50]
LaVar Arrington
Damn.
- [39:50]
Jonas Knox
You know what I mean? Hey, could have got it. He could have got popped.
- [39:56]
LaVar Arrington
It is the herd.
- [39:57]
Jonas Knox
Little belligerent ass.
- [39:58]
LaVar Arrington
It is the herd. On Fox Sports Radio, it's Lavari Arrington. Jonas Knox in for calling. Coming up.
- [40:03]
Jonas Knox
Slammed out like Ashton Genty.
- [40:06]
LaVar Arrington
Coming up, we're going to tell you about a parting gift from one organization to one player in the NFL. That's next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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- [42:53]
LaVar Arrington
It's a herd Fox Sports Radio Levar Arrington Jonas Knox in for calling. Coming up top of next hour. Little over 10 minutes from now, we're gonna tell you about a major decision, a major decision in the NFL. We are getting very close to that decision. We'll get into that for you again little over 10 minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. A reminder, by the way, that shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up. If you've missed any of it, be sure to check out the pod, Search two Pros or Heard wherever you get your podcast and be sure to also follow rate and review the pod. Again. Just search two Pros or Heard wherever you get your podcast. You'll see today's show posted right after we get off the Air Levar and I team up with Brady Quinn Monday through Friday, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 Pacific, with Brady Quinn. And, you know, we have a good time. It's called two pros and a cup of Joe. And, you know, check it out. You know, we'll be back there tomorrow. So right now, though, it is time for this.
- [43:50]
Jonas Knox
No, no. Turn on the news.
- [43:53]
LaVar Arrington
This is the Herd line news. All right, lead to lap. What do we got?
- [43:59]
Lee
Well, guys, in case you missed this, Cowboys cut running back Ezekiel Elliott yesterday. And in a statement from Jerry Jones, he says, out of respect and appreciation for Zeke and wanting to provide him with an opportunity to pursue any potential playoff participation possible, we are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today, adding, as I have said many times previously, Zeke's impact as one of the greatest to ever play with the star on his helmet will never change and is etched into our record books and history forever.
- [44:26]
Jonas Knox
Oh, then why are they not releasing Michael Parsons then?
- [44:30]
LaVar Arrington
Damn. Yeah. Why is he getting all the good breaks?
- [44:34]
Jonas Knox
Yeah. Give my. Give my homie an opportunity to play for something.
- [44:39]
LaVar Arrington
By the way, I do like how they're out of the goodness of their heart, they're releasing Ezekiel Elliot to go find a playoff roster. That's like somebody who spends $75 out of an $80 gift card and says, here, man, Merry Christmas. Wait, wait, What? There's five bucks left.
- [44:54]
Jonas Knox
What's.
- [44:55]
LaVar Arrington
What are we doing here?
- [44:57]
Jonas Knox
Do the same thing with Michael Parsons, and I want to hear the same. Same exact statement.
- [45:03]
LaVar Arrington
What else we got, Lee?
- [45:04]
Lee
Guys, in case you missed this, Shane Beamer flipped out after. In the bowl game, the Cheez it bowl, after Brett Bielma was taunting him. He was checking on his injured player and then started taunting Beamer by making a motion for a substitution.
- [45:17]
LaVar Arrington
Well, because they. They were going back and forth because there were some complaints about how long it was taking Illinois to do some of their. I guess, you know, when they were trying to bring players in, in and out and substituting guys.
- [45:31]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, because they go slow.
- [45:32]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [45:33]
Jonas Knox
You got to give them the time to get off the field when you do the substitution. So they was. You can slow the game down that way.
- [45:39]
LaVar Arrington
Beamer was complaining and they were all chummy before the game. And then when Bielema came over and did the. Did the substitution taunting to their sideline, Beamer tried to go after him, and everyone was waiting. We had the post game handshake for them to potentially throw down, and it was just cord. Kind of boring, to be honest with you. But, man, Illinois give credit you remember a couple years ago on. On two pros, we were having the conversation about Brett Bielema who called out his offensive lineman, and everyone's like, you can't do that to your players. What do you. Dude, he's completely turned around that program. Like, completely. Yeah, they're really tough and, you know, so it's a good, good story there in champagne. What else we got, Lee?
- [46:18]
Colin Cowherd
Guys.
- [46:19]
Lee
Though there wasn't much to play for the Lions, 49ers game on Monday Night Football was actually the most watched Monday Night Football game of the season, drawing 22.2 million viewers. ESPN added that it was one of the five most watched Monday Night Football games since. They've been carrying it since 2006.
- [46:36]
LaVar Arrington
Lee, why do you think that was? Well, why do you think that was, huh?
- [46:39]
Lee
Maybe fantasy football had something to do with it.
- [46:41]
LaVar Arrington
That's right. 100%. That's what it was like. That was fantasy football. That had everything to do with that. Again, add a little money into things, add some gambling into your sports, and next thing you know, stuff becomes interesting. I'm telling you, it's the plastic surgery of sports. Throw some bets on there, make it happen, and all of a sudden it gets more entertaining and more watchable. Works every time.
- [47:07]
Jon Stewart
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