Hour 1 - Ice Cream Teeth & Retired Jerseys

Summary

Hour 1 - Ice Cream Teeth & Retired Jerseys: Detailed Summary

1. Ice Cream Showdown: Cold Stone Creamery vs. Baskin Robbins

The episode opens with hosts Covino and Rich diving into a lively debate about the best ice cream destinations for family outings. Rich initiates the discussion by recounting a personal anecdote:

Rich (06:04): "My wife said, no, Baskin Robbins. And I'm like, are you nuts? Would anyone in this room choose Baskin Robbins over Cold Stone Creamery?"

Covino counters by highlighting the practicality of each option:

Covino (06:09): "But that's what I want to avoid. Sometimes I want to be in and out, like, hey, let's get out of here."

Michael Kassin adds his perspective, comparing the two brands to fast-food equivalents:

Michael Kassin (06:53): "Cold Stone is like a Five Guys and Baskin Robbins is McDonald's."

The conversation underscores the balance between quality, experience, and cost. Rich expresses his frustration with the price point at Cold Stone:

Rich (09:02): "Cold Stone's a little more expensive. 4 ice cream servings, 2 adults, 2 kids, cups, 40 bucks at Cold Stone Creamery. But it's so good."

Covino reminisces about his childhood favoritism towards Baskin Robbins, emphasizing its nostalgic value:

Covino (07:29): "When I was a kid, Baskin Robbins was the big deal. So I like to share that with my kids."

The discussion concludes with both hosts acknowledging that while both ice cream parlors offer premium experiences, personal preference and the occasion often dictate the choice.

2. Retired Jerseys Controversy: Abdul Carter and Lawrence Taylor

Shifting gears, Covino and Rich delve into a contentious topic within the sports community: the retiring of jersey numbers and the recent case involving New York Giants player Abdul Carter.

Rich narrates the situation:

Rich (22:35): "Abdul Carter, if you put your thinking cap on, just Google image him at Penn State, he wore number 11... asking Lawrence Taylor if he can wear your retired number 56."

Covino criticizes Carter's request, stressing the importance of honoring legends:

Covino (18:33): "It's insulting to his honor... Why do you retire numbers? Not so some young jabroni can come out and take it."

Michael Kassin provides historical context, referencing instances where jersey numbers were reassigned:

Michael Kassin (21:43): "When Peyton Manning went from Indianapolis to Denver, they allowed him to wear 18."

However, he distinguishes the current case from past examples, emphasizing the deep legacy associated with Lawrence Taylor's number:

Michael Kassin (24:05): "11 is a storied number at Penn State."

The hosts debate whether Carter's request signifies disrespect or a harmless aspiration. Covino remains firm in his stance:

Covino (21:23): "He's a legendary guy whose number was retired... That's a bold request."

Rich introduces another perspective by mentioning Phil Sims' willingness to let Carter wear number 11, albeit a different number:

Rich (23:34): "Phil Sims, number 11, has said it would be an honor, Abdul Carter, for you to wear my number 11 for the New York Giants."

Despite this support, Covino maintains that retiring numbers should preserve their legacy without compromise:

Covino (24:12): "Phil Sims is a legendary guy in New York for the Giants, he's not Lawrence Taylor. But that's not even my point."

The segment concludes with a consensus that while Carter's request is notable, it raises broader questions about tradition, respect, and the evolving dynamics within sports cultures.

3. Generational Workplace Dynamics: Gen Z Expectations

Later in the episode, Covino and Rich explore the challenges and perceptions surrounding Gen Z in the workplace. They reference recent articles and societal observations to frame their discussion.

Rich cites an article highlighting Gen Z's demand for transparency in job postings:

Rich (50:15): "Gen Z would say, no, I just want transparency. I'm not going to come there, interview and do all this and then you decide what you're going to pay me."

Covino comments on the boldness of Gen Z's expectations:

Covino (51:20): "It just sounds a little bold. I'm not mad at that."

The hosts debate whether older generations should adapt to accommodate these new expectations or maintain traditional workplace norms. Rich emphasizes the cyclical nature of generational misunderstandings:

Rich (48:21): "It's cyclical. Your music stinks. Ours is better. You don't know. You don't get it."

They acknowledge that while some Gen Z traits might be viewed as entitlement, others, such as valuing mental health and work-life balance, could be beneficial for workplace culture.

4. Listener Engagement and Anecdotes

Throughout the episode, Covino and Rich interact with listeners, sharing humorous and relatable stories. For instance, Rich shares his embarrassing experiences with novelty shirts:

Rich (13:07): "I have two embarrassing stories about wearing things and not realizing it."

Covino contributes by cautioning against wearing inappropriate jerseys to school assemblies:

Covino (14:09): "You can't wear a booty diver shirt to your school assembly or to pick them up."

These anecdotes add a personal touch to the discussions, fostering a connection with the audience.

5. Closing Remarks

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reiterate the main topics and tease upcoming discussions, ensuring listeners stay engaged for future episodes.

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This summary encapsulates the core discussions of the "Ice Cream Teeth & Retired Jerseys" episode, highlighting the dynamic conversations between Covino and Rich. By addressing both light-hearted debates and more serious topics, the hosts offer a comprehensive and engaging listening experience.

Transcript

[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

Has spent 24 of those years in jail.

[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern. 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich]

Find your local station for Kavito and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Yo, Friday, let's go.

[Covino]

Yeah, buddy.

[Rich]

I know it's a big fight night. You're pumped up.

[Covino]

Not only that, bro, it's Dos de Mayo. The fiesta begins.

[Rich]

Can you sneak some margaritas at Guacamole early or what?

[Covino]

Oh, yeah. Happy Cinco de Mayo weekend to all the vaptos locos in the barrio and.

[Rich]

For all the Star wars nerds. May the fourth be with you in a couple days.

[Covino]

That's right. Enjoy your Star wars trilogy. If you were going to watch them all, would you start with the old ones first or the new ones first?

[Rich]

How about none of them? No, I'm kidding. I would say the ones from the 70s and 80s, right?

[Covino]

Well, because my kid was asking me, right? I'm like, oh, yeah, that's interesting because you could probably watch the newer ones, the weaker ones, the prequels. But anyway, I digest. It's fight night. I'm Covino. That's Rich. And we be rocking out.

[Rich]

Let's go.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

All right, a lot to get to today. Belichick or Kavino? One of our new favorite games.

[Covino]

We're going to play that, you know, it's a great game. But the more that comes out about Belichick and the creepier he sounds, the more I'm resenting him. I'm like, wait a second, you're just like him. I'm nothing like this guy.

[Rich]

So Belichick or Covino? Phil Sims and LT are in the news and it's not the 80s and we're not in New York. So we'll talk some NFL do we need to accommodate Gen Z?

[Covino]

Hell no.

[Rich]

Not that girl you hooked up with in college? Generation Z. Oh, Generation Z.

[Covino]

No.

[Rich]

So we'll. We'll talk about that. There's a Shador Sanders story. But before we get going, before we get cracking on today's show, two random dumb thoughts I had. What would our show be without my dumb thoughts?

[Covino]

Can I add a random story?

[Rich]

Please do, buddy.

[Covino]

All right, cool. I got a dumb story to tell.

[Rich]

Question number one. It doesn't need to be a. A long discussion. In fact, it could be one second as we welcome Danny G to the studio super producing.

[Covino]

Yo, yo.

[Rich]

Our buddy Perfet running the board today. What's up, Perfette? Are you aggravated today? You happy?

[Covino]

What's going on?

[Rich]

Lost. So I'm not exactly in a good spot. I thought you found that you had to work with Vijay Husky this weekend.

[Covino]

Man, I'd be upset, too.

[Rich]

Saw some clips on Social. Well, hold on.

[Covino]

I prefer really not to speak. If I speak, I am in big trouble.

[Rich]

So, Dan Beyer, of course, the legend on the updates. Let me go around the room. My wife and I taken the kids out for ice cream the other night. And the question is, where do you go? I said, all right, kids, we're going to Cold Stone Creamery. And my wife said, no, Baskin Robbins. And I'm like, are you nuts? Would anyone in this room choose Baskin Robbins over Cold stone Creamery?

[Covino]

Yeah, 31 flavors. Let's go. It's simple creamery.

[Rich]

They mix it all up and it's on the sled.

[Covino]

But that's what I want to avoid. Sometimes I want to be in and out, like, hey, let's get out of here. You get your cotton candy ice cream. Because kids always love cotton candy ice cream. I'll get my chocolate chip or cookie dough and bounce. I don't need the whole song and dance all the time. Every once in a while, it's nice. Like if you don't get ice all that often or it's a special event or the kid just performed at an assembly or he won a game and you want to get him something extra. I think Cold Stone Creamery is a little extra.

[Rich]

I don't know.

[Covino]

I kind of like it. I don't love it or gotta have it.

[Rich]

Dan Byer, I feel like you're gonna be team rich on this. Coltstone.

[Michael Kassin]

This is. I'm sorry, I can't just give you a one word answer. I feel that they're almost two different entities. Whereas Coldstone is like a Five Guys and Baskin Robbins is McDonald's.

[Rich]

Yes.

[Michael Kassin]

So there is a bit of an upper tier of burger, but it also just kind of. Kind of what Cavino is saying. There's a difference to the occasion. Of what? Yeah, like. Yeah, it depends. But if you're choosing one, I think Cold stone, like, quality wise, has got to be better.

[Rich]

Yeah. Danny G. What do you think?

[Covino]

Cold stone.

[Michael Kassin]

But I have left Cold stone before and felt very fat because you gotta have it.

[Rich]

You gotta love it, like it. Gotta have it.

[Michael Kassin]

It's too rich. So the smallest serving cold stone will offer you. That's what I would take. I would say, like for a week.

[Rich]

If you went once a week, it.

[Michael Kassin]

Would be Baskin Robbins.

[Covino]

You know what else I like to share, though? The fact that when I was a kid, Baskin Robbins was the big deal. So I like to share that with my kids. Hey, when Aunt Sharon took dad to Baskin Robbins, that meant something. So here you go. Let's share this experience together. They had 31 flavors back then. That was a lot. 31 flavors.

[Michael Kassin]

Did you guys not grow up with the frozen yogurt boom on the East Coast?

[Rich]

Oh, yeah. Well, there was the.

[Michael Kassin]

That's our choice these days.

[Rich]

Remember back in the day, for a minute in the 2000s, Pinkberry was a thing.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Kassin]

Oh, y. There's still some locations.

[Rich]

Frozen yogurt land and all this stuff. Perfect.

[Michael Kassin]

What's the.

[Rich]

What was the. Wasn't there like a Dippin Dots place? Or am I tripping? You mean the ice cream of the future? Yeah, I loved. Well, first off, I love Dippin Dots, but, like, why don't we have Ben and Jerry's in here as an option? Ben and Jerry's is great. It's fantastic.

[Covino]

One right across the street from the Fox Sports radio studio. But yeah, they're great.

[Rich]

It's the same thing you get in the tub at the store. Like, you can get fish food in a waffle cone.

[Michael Kassin]

I'll tell you why it's not an option. Because Rich started the story saying, I'm going to Coldstone and his wife said, we're not going to Baskin Robbins. Right? That's right.

[Rich]

I mean, listen.

[Michael Kassin]

Wife then didn't jump in and say, why aren't we going to Menchie's?

[Rich]

If I was on the east coast, damn buyer, I would say, what about Carvel or Mr. Softy? I'm saying I said it was like 7:00. Our kids bedtime soon. But dad wants ice cream. Everyone hop in the car. And I was assuming Coltstone would be like, yay, Right?

[Covino]

If you have thoughts, we're not asking for Dairy Queen, Right? It's one or the other. It's one or the other.

[Rich]

Even do anything besides Fudgy the Whale. Fudgy the Whale is great.

[Covino]

Cookie Puss. Cookie Puss and the flying saucers. And yeah, I love Carville. Tom Carville's legend on the East Coast. But rich. I think that if you want simple, you want in and out you go. Baskin Robbins if it's a special occasion, and again, you want to impress the kids, it's almost like the hibachi, the teppanyaki of ice cream. Making it in front of you. It's a big deal. You're always waiting in line, too, though. It's always busy at Cold Stone. And it's supposed to be an experience, meaning if you remember, when you tip at Cold Stone, they were supposed to.

[Rich]

Sing for you and ring a bell or something.

[Covino]

It was supposed to be like a whole extravaganza. So if you go there for that fun, I get it. However, I will say this. They're both really expensive. You think one's more expensive than the other? Dude, they're both pretty steep.

[Rich]

Cold Stone's a little more expensive. And I say this in a disgusted manner. 4 ice cream servings, 2 adults, 2 kids, cups, 40 bucks at Cold Stone Creamery. But it's so good. All right, that was question one.

[Covino]

You know, can I answer your question?

[Rich]

Yes.

[Covino]

What dad wants takes a back seat to what wifey and the kids want. If you could do both, why not, if you have time? But they take precedence. So there's your answer.

[Rich]

Well, if you want to know the answer, if you really give a crap, which you probably don't. We went to both because I'm like, well, I'm going to get cold soon. If you dopes want Baskin Robbins, I'll stop at both. But I'm not giving up that cake batter ice cream at Cold Stone. It's so creamy and good.

[Covino]

I get it if you're gonna pig out. You want what you want.

[Rich]

Yeah. It's almost like there are times my kids like, I want McDonald's. I'm like, dad doesn't want that crap. I want Chipotle. So you go to both. Okay, question one. Question two. Have you ever bought the jersey or apparel of a cool, funny minor league baseball team? Like, I know for a minute.

[Covino]

What was the Modesto Nuts.

[Rich]

The Modesto Nuts. Kavino.

[Covino]

Thinking about buying a Nuts on it.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

For a long time, I wanted that one. I used to rock the Greensboro Bats a lot. They were a Yankees minor league affiliate, and I had gone to the stadium when I was a kid.

[Rich]

That's cool.

[Covino]

Yeah. No, you know what? If you need options, I think there are a lot of fun options and fun hats. Why do you got one?

[Rich]

Because I remember at one point. Remember when Robinson Canoe play for those. Like the spongebob team for a minute?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

They had those uniforms. There's a new minor league team. They're doing a weekend special event. The Morehead. Morehead City Marlins.

[Covino]

Already? I'm in. Tell me more.

[Rich]

The Morehead City Marlins that play in the Coastal League in Florida for the weekend are changing their name. They are the Morehead City Booty Divers.

[Covino]

Oh, I got to get one. And TK Hernandez has to get one, too, because he was caught wearing a hat that said it, but it had nothing to do with baseball.

[Rich]

Yeah, but the Booty Divers, meaning it looks like a pirate diving for. For booty. But I mean, if you could get a Booty Divers jersey.

[Covino]

That's fun. Yeah, that's funny. Except for when you're picking your kids up at school, then it may seem inappropriate because that happens once in a while. I know you got a little story about that, and I've done that, too. You're wearing something dumb because your friends gave it to you, or it's like a gag gift and you fell asleep in it. You show up at the school and you don't realize you're wearing it.

[Rich]

You're like, oh, you like this? This is the Crystal Coast Booty Divers.

[Covino]

I do like that.

[Rich]

That's so cool, right? I'd get a T shirt.

[Covino]

I would get that.

[Rich]

I have two.

[Covino]

I think it's. It's all fair game with minor league stuff. I really do, because I'm a Yankees fan. I don't wear other teams. There's other hosts here that should rename, remain nameless, even though we already mentioned them. Who wears all different hats. I'm like, dude, choose one. Pick one. Because you're a sports guy when it comes to minor league stuff, I think you rock whatever one you want.

[Rich]

I have two embarrassing stories about wearing things and not realizing it. So I told the story back in the day. It's embarrassing. I can't believe I'm even saying alluding to this on Fox Sports Radio, but when I was a preteen teenager, I've told the story like a lot of young, dumb boys. Let's just say you've. You've done things to the cushions of your couch.

[Covino]

Let's just say when people say you love it at Levitz. Rich really loved it at Levitz.

[Rich]

I was an amped up 13 year.

[Covino]

Old when Rich went to Ashley Furniture. He was pretending it was Ashley for real.

[Rich]

Let's just say when my parents are at our childhood couch, I cried, no. So I jokingly told the guys this story. Think, thinking. What was I thinking? Who knows? So one of our listeners made me a shirt that says Rich took the love seat.

[Covino]

Literally.

[Rich]

It said heterosexual and it was just a couch with an opening. And I wore it to the gym and someone was like, what's with the shirt? I'm like, oh, I didn't realize what shirt I was wearing.

[Covino]

The point is you can't wear a booty diver shirt to your school assembly assembly or to pick them up.

[Rich]

Do you mean like my wife around the holidays or even to the gym?

[Covino]

Because you might see like one of the parents that you know there and you feel embarrassed.

[Rich]

My wife bought. My wife is not like some dirty minded person. I bought her a novelty shirt because I saw it on sale like H and M or something. It was a red sweater around the holidays and in sparkles. It said tinsel. I'll just say it starts with a T. Tinsel.

[Michael Kassin]

Tinsel time.

[Rich]

Tinsel time.

[Michael Kassin]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And she's like, oh my God, you're so dumb. She was scrambled to get the kids ready for school one morning, threw it on and we're doing kid drop off. And I'm like, babe, do you know what you're wearing? She's like, oh my God.

[Covino]

That's my only warning with the new hat.

[Rich]

Careful.

[Covino]

But, but I think my daughter hats are fair game if you want to mix it up a little bit. Because you got to find some new hats every once in a while to match your kicks.

[Rich]

I mean, this is kind of cheating because my hometown. But I had, I had plenty of mud hen stuff growing up. But there was one night and I think it was when the Tigers sent down Jose Valverde. Or actually I think Justin Verlander might have been down there because they did a lot of promotional nights and I think they had like, okay, one time it was a hot dog night and I really wanted a hot dog jersey. The hot dogs, yeah. The other, I think when Verlander was like rehabbing in Toledo, they had a Jurassic park night involving one of those like inflatable T. Rexes waddling up to the mound to hand him the ball. That's funny. See, I love those. I would like that.

[Covino]

I was going to buy. We went recently to the Mets A's game in Sacramento, and they play at the Sacramento River Cats Stadium, and they had the River Cats gear there. And I was thinking about, hey, I could buy one and get away with it. Doesn't matter.

[Rich]

No doubt.

[Covino]

So anyway, Rich, great question. Any other final thoughts before we move on?

[Rich]

I was, you know, dumb. Minor league teams and ice cream. I'm done.

[Covino]

Well, speaking of time, let's go. You know what I did last night? I don't know if you noticed, but check out my gleaming Chiclets. Check out these pearly whites that I got going on. They're extra sensitive today. You know what I was doing?

[Rich]

You look like Matt Dillon in Something about Mary.

[Covino]

Well, see, I use my whitening strips on my actual teeth. Rich uses them in places that we can't even see.

[Rich]

Yeah, you're not supposed to put them on your, you know, butt.

[Covino]

Rich uses them in all these weird places. I was putting them on my teeth, right? Every single day. Got my teeth clean. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna use those whitening strips. But you're supposed to keep them on for like 45 minutes.

[Rich]

You forgot, didn't you?

[Covino]

Dude, I passed out last night. I woke up at like 5 in the morning and I still had them on. And now my teeth are like so sensitive when I breathe in. I. I could feel it.

[Michael Kassin]

That hurts. Your gums?

[Covino]

Yeah, dude, my gums and my teeth.

[Rich]

Yo, tonight when I'm like.

[Covino]

I drink anything, my teeth like, oh.

[Rich]

Tonight when I'm reading my son a bedtime story. Can you just stand above us? Yeah, and open your mouth.

[Covino]

I mean, my teeth are, you know, fluorescent white right now. But, guys, just a warning. And O, of course, I had a 45 minute timer set. Must have slept right through it or shut it off. I woke up, I. I must have had it on for like six plus hours, dude. And my teeth are listening, though. They're hurting. I mean, yeah, these chompers are glistening, but thank you for listening. So that's just my stupid story. Don't let it happen to you. And let's get into it, man.

[Rich]

We're gonna play Belichicker Cavino coming up.

[Covino]

Let's dive into it like the Booty Divers.

[Rich]

The Booty divers of the Coastal League. Here's my question. I want to start with something that this part of the story is not new news. Lawrence Taylor, as we know, legend. I mean, in our childhood, he's the real lt. I mean, not only was he epic in real life, I Mean, the guy could block extra points in Techmo Ball.

[Covino]

By the way, D.B. danny G. Perfette. That was one of the coming of age stories in our life when we started to notice that younger generations thought LT meant Ladanian Tomlinson. We're like, hold on, it does not. But to them it did.

[Rich]

I remember when Ladanian Tomilson went to the jets, we were working at SNY in New York. We were asking people on the streets, yeah, who's lt? And we did like a man on the street thing based on age.

[Covino]

It was generational.

[Rich]

People were saying Ladanian. And other people were saying, of course, Lawrence Taylor.

[Covino]

And I believe he was on the COVID of Madden and everything at one point. Right? So, yeah, the younger kids jumped on that so hard. LT, to them is Ladanian Tomlinson. Well, we're talking about Lawrence Taylor. We're talking about dangly earring Lawrence Taylor.

[Rich]

Who did more cocaine in the 80s, him or Keith Hernandez? It's a great New York question.

[Covino]

Definitely Hernandez.

[Rich]

Allegedly.

[Covino]

We're talking number 56.

[Rich]

LT. Now we know the story of Abdul Carter. Very excited, Giants fan base. This guy's going to make a difference in New York, New Jersey. When asked, is it cool if Abdul Carter wears your number 56? Lawrence Taylor was pretty much like, yeah, kick, kick rocks, kid. Get your own legacy, get your own number.

[Covino]

And I actually liked his comment. Wasn't something about, create your own path? Why not?

[Rich]

Yeah, he wasn't rude about it, but.

[Covino]

It was pretty much like 56. And in fact, it's insulting to his honor. I think Abdul Carter, hey, I wish him all the best, but I think that's a disrespectful request. Why do you think they retire numbers in the first place? Not so some young jabroni can come out and take it, you know, do.

[Rich]

You know, you know what, this happens at school with your kids or, you know, maybe with neighbors. You know when someone asks you something so ballsy that you're almost taken aback, like, I guess so.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

I'm glad Lawrence Taylor didn't react. Like hell, kid.

[Covino]

I guess you know this, you know, the honor that I earned. Yeah, you're trying to take it away. How about you beat it? He could have been, in my opinion, should have been a little more rude about it. He said, hey, listen, youngster, create your own path, get your own number. I don't like it, you know, from the get go. And I wish nothing but the best to Abdul Carter. I think he overstepped here. I think someone should have told him, like, no, that's Lawrence Taylor. He's a legend. What do you. Out of your mind?

[Rich]

But then again, I heard Jonas, our co worker on two pros and cup of Joe, said, is there any harm in asking?

[Covino]

Yes.

[Rich]

Okay.

[Covino]

You know, it actually is a good point, but you'd be surprised as to what you'd get when you ask that. There's truth to that for sure. But you're asking almost them, almost to take back an honor. It's like, I just don't. I don't think that's fair at all to Lawrence Taylor or to the organization or anybody.

[Michael Kassin]

And Taylor added. He said, I'm hoping that he's not thinking, oh, I just got shot down by lt. No, it's not like that, man. It's. Hey, I'm with you. I mean, I. I'm the guy that it. That I am. And it's going to take two of the two of us here. I'm going to be two steps behind you and make sure you don't fall.

[Covino]

Yeah. So he's saying he's going to be.

[Michael Kassin]

Supportive, but just make your own mark with your own number.

[Covino]

Dude, even in high school, I didn't. I took my jersey when I left the team. It wasn't retired, obviously, but I'm like, I don't want no one taking my jersey. My jersey. Beat it.

[Rich]

Kidding.

[Covino]

Yeah. No, I'm serious. Stole my jersey. And you know, because in high school, remember back in the day, they just recycled them for the next like, five.

[Rich]

So if you took your jersey, there would be no other number. 16.

[Covino]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rich]

Hey, where's the men's large 16?

[Covino]

I was like, who's gonna stop me? I don't want someone else wearing this. I was the OG Original Ochocinko.

[Rich]

People don't realize that in the union little league in New Jersey, no one could wear Cavino's 23. I'm sorry, how many? 27 Little League home run jersey.

[Covino]

That's right. No one could wear that one. My all star jersey. Um, my point is, you're very territorial about your number, especially when you're a legendary guy whose number was retired. They held a ceremony for you. You're a legend in that city for some. I don't want to say he's a nobody, but he hasn't done anything yet in New York to ask for that number. That's a bold request.

[Rich]

I mean, listen, one comes to mind for me and I'm sure you know Dan Byers, a man of sports knowledge and history. Can you think of a guy that changed teams and had a pivot other than Joe Montana. Because when Montana went to the Chiefs, I believe Len Dawson was number 16, and then Montana rock number 19. He didn't say, hey, can you unretire 16?

[Covino]

And that's Joe Montana.

[Rich]

Have there been other guys that you could think of that had a like pivot? Like guys who went to the Yankees? A rod number three was like, I can't be Babe Ruth. I'll be 13.

[Michael Kassin]

I'll answer your question by not answering your question. Remember the old Pro bowl when we would. You would have guys of the same jersey number that would go to the Pro bowl in the. You'd have to change numbers. At that time. If there were two 29s on the field, you know, sorry, Eric Dickerson, you may not have tenure over that person and you may have to. So in those games, they would make them change. I do remember Peyton Manning did not have to pivot. The Broncos retired Frank Tripuka's number 18. So when Manning went from Indianapolis to Denver, they asked and he allowed him to wear 18. In fact, used it as a, as a way to, hey, if you come here, you can have 18. If you sign with the Broncos, goes.

[Rich]

There you go.

[Michael Kassin]

So.

[Rich]

So there have been a couple times it goes both ways. But here's the update on this story because that, that part of the story is, is not necessarily new. Abdul Carter, if you put your thinking cap on, just Google image him at Penn State, he wore number 11. I grew up in the 80s in New York. There are a heck a lot of 11 jerseys because it was that blonde haired stud who gave Covino a stink palm handshake one time.

[Covino]

Oh, bro, you're going to bring that up. Let's preface by saying Phil Sims is a New York legend and a hell of a broadcaster. And what a fella. Nice guy. Actually. He was nothing but kind and generous to us the times we've met him. And I'm not saying anything. You brought it up. I just said I want to preface your story.

[Rich]

Phil Sims, number 11, has said it would be an honor, Abdul Carter, for you to wear my number 11 for the new York Giants. I got you. So it's the other side of things now. Phil Sim saying, I would love this.

[Michael Kassin]

I don't have a problem with that. Now. 11 is a storied number at Penn State.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Michael Kassin]

LaVar Arrington, you just mentioned two pros. Yeah, there's the long list of guys who have worn 11. Just like 88 is with the Dallas Cowboys. When you wear 88, like Drew Pearson, like Michael Irvin, like Dez Bryant, like CD Lamb. There's something to it. Some guys don't rock like that. For Phil Sims to be like, okay, that's cool. I think that's cool of Phil Sims. But it's not like 11 is Abdul Carter's number. That's Penn State All American linebacker number.

[Rich]

It's like Syracuse number 44. 44 at the CUSE is a big deal.

[Michael Kassin]

Yes, absolutely.

[Covino]

So I see it.

[Michael Kassin]

I would think that's a little weird.

[Covino]

Even though Phil Sims is definitely a legendary guy in New York for the Giants, he's not Lawrence Taylor. But that's not even my point. My point is, if he feels one way and he feels okay giving up that number 11, like Dan Byer said, hey, man, that's really cool. That's really nice of him. But that doesn't mean that Lawrence Taylor's in the wrong for not wanting to. No, it's like a total preference thing. Lawrence Taylor's like, nah, man, that's my number. No way. Make your own path. If Phil Simms wants to do that, that's on him. And I'm all for it. I'm surprised, though. I'm surprised to hear it.

[Rich]

Well, you know, I don't think there.

[Covino]

Should be any pressure for these retired guys to give up their number.

[Rich]

We're going to go over all your feedback if you want to chime in. Hey, most interactive show on fox Sports Radio, 87799 on fox@covino and Rich. We'll get to you guys next. And then a really interesting thought about accommodating different generations. And it has to do with some of these young dudes coming out of the draft that are 20, 21 years old.

[Covino]

They want your number. They want everything.

[Rich]

But is it our job to accommodate a different generation? You can't assume everyone just has to adjust to you. So a Shador Sanders story that we'll break down next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Rich]

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[Michael Kassin]

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[Covino]

I get it. It's an 80s classic, but I think of Robbie Hart's version, the Second Baby.

[Rich]

I'll have to look up that version.

[Covino]

The Wedding Singer. The Second I hear this.

[Rich]

Yeah, that's Wedding Singers. Underrated for an Adam Sandler. Oh, it's great, you know. Perfect, I would argue might be Adam Sandler's best movie. I think that's for me, that's Uncut Gems. I know it was recent, but I loved Uncut Gems. You mean Uncut Jobs.

[Covino]

Uncut Jobs, two different vibes, though very different, is the most frantic movie I think I've ever Seen, but fun, light hearted. Robbie Hart in the Wedding Singer. Fantastic. We're Kavino and Rich. Perfection for Sam. We got Danny G Super producing getting our games ready. We're giving away prizes on this Friday. We always have fun on Fridays. Casual Friday, but an action packed Friday. Got some big fights tonight. You got some NBA, we got Belichick or Cavino, which, like I said, I'm sort of resenting and regretting right now because I feel like he's getting more weird as time goes on.

[Rich]

As the story progresses, his game is getting funnier to me.

[Covino]

Is it him or me? If you could answer, I don't know two right out of five questions, you win a swiggy, so stick around for that. Plus, every Friday we also get into weekend hobnobbing. What you need to watch in the world of sports and entertainment. But right now, your phone calls at 87799 on Fox.

[Rich]

Let's, let's go to you guys. Everything from minor league jerseys to my deep thought about Coldstone versus Baskin.

[Michael Kassin]

Deep.

[Covino]

Are you joking me?

[Rich]

Abdul Carter asking for jersey numbers. Let's go to Drew in Vegas. What's up, buddy boys?

[Covino]

How you doing?

[Rich]

What's up, man? Hey, I just want to give you a heads up.

[Michael Kassin]

You had mentioned the Morehead City Marlins.

[Rich]

Yeah, yeah. That's not Florida. That's actually North Carolina. I was born in Morehead City.

[Michael Kassin]

Just want to give a shout out back home.

[Rich]

Yo, shout out to you. I thought it was for some reason, I thought it was Florida. But you know what, you stand corrected, sir. I stay corrected. But I'm still going to get the Booty Divers jersey.

[Covino]

Yeah. Hey, thanks. We appreciate it.

[Rich]

Hey, Drew. Drew's like the Booty Divers are from North Carolina. All right. All right. Dustin in Virginia. What's up, Dustin?

[Michael Kassin]

Hey, what's up, fellas?

[Rich]

Hey, buddy.

[Michael Kassin]

Baskin Robin versus Colestone. It's like to the point of, you know, a different occasion. El Rodeo versus Taco Bell.

[Covino]

I'm with it depending on the situation.

[Rich]

If you need to be in and out or not.

[Michael Kassin]

And the retiring jerseys, I mean, if.

[Rich]

You had a 0 and a double 0, you only got 101. Eventually, with position based numbers, we're going to run out, right? Look at the Yankees. I know I give Camino crap all the time because I'm a Mets guy, he's a Yankees guy. But you know, Yankee, I see Yankees run like number 82. Like they're wide receivers. What are we doing? Like, eventually you might need to say and reset.

[Covino]

You know, like as Waldo Cabrera wearing number 95.

[Rich]

What is he judges? 99 O lineman or A, or an infielder.

[Covino]

Those numbers and positions. Yeah, we have to think of them differently now. Yeah, 99 is a baseball number.

[Rich]

Why is 0 a number for a jersey? It's a good question. Still trying to figure that out. Why zero? I had a buddy in high school who thought it was cool. He wanted to be 09. So he would, he would specially order the 09. People like people have their preferences.

[Michael Kassin]

It's pretty amazing. In basketball, our jerseys were, it was either 10 through 15, 20 through 15, or 25, 30 through 35. They never went past 6. We didn't have single digit jerseys. It was just and to Kavino's point and wanting his number. The smaller you were, the smaller number that you got. That's where it used to be.54. You were probably six four and you know, 250 pounds.

[Covino]

If you were the husky kid in Little League, you wore number 14.

[Rich]

If your jeans were husky from JCPenney.

[Michael Kassin]

Yes.

[Covino]

Yeah, because the littler kid wore number one and.

[Michael Kassin]

Exactly.

[Covino]

That's usually how it went.

[Rich]

It's funny you would say that because I as, you know, as if I don't mention it once a show. You know the number one coach here on Fox Sports Radio, Rich Davis.

[Covino]

So I've heard.

[Rich]

Yeah, I coach five and under. T ball, little kids, pony ball, all their jerseys. Like Dan Byer said, I got the little jerseys and if there's a big kid on my team, I had to call the next league up that's also the Rockies and be like, hey, do you got a bigger Rockies jersey? Because one of my, one of my kids is husky. And then you'll get a call from someone from a higher league, like, we got a little guy.

[Michael Kassin]

Do you have a kid's drowning in his uniform?

[Rich]

You're right. So that is how it is.

[Covino]

And by the way, if you just joined us and you don't know the story, Abdul Carter, now a giant, wore number 11 in college. But he asked Lawrence Taylor, hey, can I wear your retired number 56? You know that honor bestowed upon you, can I reverse the honor and wear your number? Because a lot of years have passed. I get it to him. He's like, yeah, Lawrence Taylor, I guess it's okay to ask. Like, yeah, I agree with Jonas. Like, there's no harm in asking, but that's a bold ask. And Lawrence Taylor said, beat it in.

[Rich]

A nice way, kindly.

[Covino]

And then Phil Sim said, hey, you wore number 11 in college. You could wear my number 11, which, by the way, is an odd gesture to me, to be honest. It was like, way too kind.

[Rich]

It's like, take my wife, sleep with her.

[Covino]

Yeah, he was, like, way too willing.

[Michael Kassin]

You guys are way more lenient than I am because I'm going to sound like, get off my lawn guy, but I do think it's too much to ask. You don't understand the history. You don't understand who Lawrence Taylor is. That's fine. It wasn't his generation. He wasn't born.

[Covino]

It does sound tone deaf to us. I agree.

[Michael Kassin]

Yes. But there's also the fact of. I think it's disrespectful to Michael strahan, Justin Tuck, O.C. humanora, other great Giants players who didn't ask for Lawrence Taylor's 56 or kept their own number. So for Abdul Carter to think, like, I'm next, and it's like, hold up, Super Bowl 42 and Super Bowl 46 were one because of their defensive lines and for. For what they did. And so I think. I think that there's not that he intended to hurt anyone's feelings by it. I just think that you're not. And not understanding history in doing so.

[Covino]

Maybe this leads to Rich's other thought. Abdul Carter wish him nothing but the best. Right. I think he overstepped a little bit. But maybe these younger kids, these weenials, are just wired with this sense of entitlement. It's not like I hate that word. I don't necessarily use that word, but maybe it's just something in them and in their generation where they don't really care.

[Rich]

The word entitlement does rub me the wrong way because I don't think that's necessarily it. We'll get to that. Next, I want to say, why is.

[Covino]

It that all these younger generations expect to be, you know, head of the company before they did anything?

[Rich]

Think about it, because we're going to dive into it next. Let's say I had a Rafi real quick. Then we'll go to Denbigher for an update. Rafi in Idaho, wrap this up, man.

[Covino]

What's up, fellas? Hey, you're talking about the misunderstanding generationally about the LT initials.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

My uncle was always quick to remind me an Ice Cube song when he says, freaking brothers everywhere like mj, that.

[Michael Kassin]

I wasn't correct that it was Michael.

[Covino]

Jordan, but Magic Johnson.

[Rich]

And you know what? Dan Byer brought one up during the commercial. I agree. When I hear people talking about AI like artificial intelligence, I still think Allen Iverson When I hear someone say, oh, well, AI, I'm with you. I'm like Allen Iverson. Oh, no, no. AI. Okay.

[Michael Kassin]

AI is taking over.

[Rich]

AI take it over for sure. In fact, whether it's AD or ap, just because some people insist.

[Michael Kassin]

No, no, it's his initials.

[Rich]

Adrian Peterson, let me tell you. AD is Anthony Davis. No, no, no, no. Oh, people don't realize. Dan Beyer. Not. He's a robot and he's giving your update right now. AI Damn. Buyer Greg Popovich will no longer be.

[Michael Kassin]

Head coach of the San Antonio Spurs. Sounds natural. All robots. Remember we thought back in the. No, that's how robots sound, dude. That's it. Greg Popovich stepping down as head coach of the Spurs. He's going to move into a full time role of team president within the organization. Interim head coach Mitch Johnson will become the team's full time head coach for Popovich. He's 76 years old, spent 29 years as head coach, has the most career wins of any coach in NBA history. Five NBA titles as well. Greg Popovich calling it quits coaching, but now team president of the San Antonio Spurs.

[Rich]

That's a cool pivot for him. And the team treated him the right way. And Coach Pop around the league is such a respected guy. So I like this move a lot.

[Michael Kassin]

Yeah. Thomas Isolo is going to be the full time head coach of the Memphis Grizzlies. Isolo took over for the Fire. Taylor Jenkins with nine games left in the regular season for Memphis, the 42 year old now getting the full time gig. Rockets and warriors tonight, game six, nine o'clock Eastern time. Warriors up three, two in the series. Lakers forward LeBron James has a grade two MCL sprain in his left knee. That's according to ESPN. Suffered it late in that loss to the Timberwolves on Wednesday. He's going to need about three to five weeks to recover. Yankee skipper Aaron Boone says an oblique injury could sideline infielder Jazz Chisholm Jr. For four to six weeks. Placed on the ten day injured list today. Dallas Cowboys and first round pick guard Tyler Booker to a four year deal worth 22 and a half million dollars. And they're back playing golf on the PGA Tour. The CJ Cup. Byron Nelson. Rain delayed play for much of the afternoon storms in the Dallas area, but Scotty scheffler leads at 14 under par. He is through 11 holes on his second round. Guys, back to you.

[Rich]

Thank you, my friend. DB with the update now coming up, based on the Abdul Carter story, based on Shador Sanders as a story we're going to get to. I want to talk about how do we handle different generations. Listen, if you're around our age, your parents are boomers, you're probably Gen X or a millennial. And this younger Gen Z, everything from lingo to, as you said, entitlement to how people expect to be handled.

[Covino]

But that I think exemplifies what we're talking about. You don't think it's strange that a kid coming out of college thinks he deserves a legend's number that was retired.

[Rich]

But someone younger, mindset younger might say, well, what's the harm in asking?

[Covino]

It's the harm in asking. He's like this guy proved he had a whole career to earn that honor. You haven't played a down in the NFL and you want it. Well, that's odd to me.

[Rich]

There's a Shador Sanders story we're going to get to. And again, this is not dumping on Generation Z. But there are differences and there's interesting ways how to handle and navigate this. And we'll get to it next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

[Michael Kassin]

Every morning brings a fresh, new energy.

[Rich]

This is today.

[Michael Kassin]

And no matter what the day holds, we come to the Today show for all of it.

[Covino]

When things are tough, we talk about it. When there's something to figure out, we dig into it. And when there's joy, we celebrate it.

[Michael Kassin]

Because today is where it's all happening. We get the best start to every morning because we started together.

[Covino]

Watch the Today show with Savannah Guthrie and Craig Melvin, weekdays at 7am on NBC.

[Rich]

And the dream season is now complete. The Golden State warriors are the 2015.

[Michael Kassin]

NBA champion on the new limited podcast series Dub dynasty. It's been 10 years since their shocking run to a championship. We examine the controversial move that made it possible. It's never a great conversation as a player when you hear that you're being benched for the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run. Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English.

[Covino]

I'm Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.

[Rich]

In a very big way.

[Michael Kassin]

Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star studded a little bit, man.

[Covino]

We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

[Michael Kassin]

Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne.

[Covino]

From Brothers Osborne.

[Rich]

We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is Benny the.

[Michael Kassin]

Butcher Brent Smith from Shinedown got be real from Cypress Hill NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corps vet MMA fighter Liz Caramouche. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change it things.

[Rich]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them.

[Covino]

It makes it real.

[Rich]

It really does.

[Covino]

It makes it real.

[Michael Kassin]

Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the.

[Rich]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you.

[Michael Kassin]

Get your podcasts and to hear episodes.

[Covino]

One week early and ad free with exclusive content.

[Michael Kassin]

Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.

[Rich]

On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in.

[Michael Kassin]

A ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open.

[Rich]

No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found except for a.

[Michael Kassin]

Cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile no.

[Covino]

No no no no no no no no.

[Michael Kassin]

Grotesque. Oh my God.

[Covino]

Oh my God.

[Michael Kassin]

Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public. Until now.

[Rich]

You feeling this too?

[Michael Kassin]

A Horror Anthology Podcast listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. How she's turning so called nich into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angelique are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino]

Hey Friday, it's my favorite day and I hope you had a great Thursday. A Brunson sort of Thursday, New York Knicks, the Knickerbockers sort of Thursday.

[Rich]

You're killing me.

[Covino]

Clippers sort of Thursday. And some good games tonight, man. We'll talk about it. Weekend Hobnobbing what you need to watch this weekend. We do it every Friday.

[Rich]

You know what that song reminds me? It reminds me that a, there's not enough pan flute and pop music and.

[Covino]

Two, speak for yourself. Have you had Zomfier's greatest hits?

[Rich]

And my goodness, Shakira's hot, huh?

[Covino]

Wow, bro.

[Rich]

Good observation. We land. That was my high school crush. That was absolutely my high school crush. That's a good crush to have. Perfect.

[Covino]

Right now it's time for our tire rack play of the day. After missing a close range shot towards the end of the game of game six, the Knicks Jalen Brunson made his biggest three of the season.

[Rich]

Please no backing down to Sar Thompson at the logo. Plenty of time left. We're tied at 113.

[Covino]

Here is in game six, Brunson between.

[Rich]

The legs dribble gets rid of Thompson. Walk up three pointer. He got it. The clutch player of the year will not be denied. Jalen Brunson with 4.3 puts this in front 116A113. I'm sorry, Perfett Pistons fan. That was New York Knicks obviously eliminating the Pistons four games to two. That's our tyrack play of the day. And you know when Brunson hit that and holds up the three fingers. So cool. Looking up.

[Covino]

That was dope.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

Installation, tirerack.com, the way tire buying should be. I'm Covino. That is Rich Danny G's on the phones at 87799 on Fox. Quick reminder because it's a big fight night. Yep, we do a whole fight preview on over promised our bonus podcast. The links in our Instagram story on our X page ovinoenrich oxsports Radio Overpromise is our bonus show. You can watch it On Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page or listen, we give you a good NBA breakdown but hyping you up for the fights this weekend and I'll talk about it again in weekend hobnobbing. Right now we got to talk about. Well, like we always talk about Gen Z. What a bunch of weenies.

[Rich]

Well, see, it's very easy. It's very easy for every generation to.

[Covino]

I'm kidding. No, I'm not.

[Rich]

It's very easy for every generation to make fun of the younger generation. The Greatest generation. Our grandparents made fun of our boomer parents who were hippies. And then they make fun of us, and then we make fun of the younger generation. It's cyclical. Your music stinks. Ours is better. You don't know. You don't get it. Mom and dad, like, this has gone on for the history of life. But there is something to be said about this younger generation where I argue sometimes. Maybe they got it right. There is a big emphasis on work, life balance. There is a big emphasis on mental health. And, you know, work isn't life. You know, you got to live it up.

[Covino]

Or you could say that's just being lazy and doing the bare minimum. No guy is going to get ahead putting his backpack on because the 5 o'clock whistle rang. It's like, yeah, but you're not really done with your work.

[Rich]

Well, there's a Shador Sanders story.

[Covino]

That was my first taste of it. Like, just because. Let's say it was five. I see all the youngsters like, all right. Later, like, hey, but we're in the middle of something. You're not done.

[Rich]

I get it. We had an intern once. I know what he's talking about. That our producer, video guy Spot, was teaching this kid how to load stuff in the system and sound clips and doing everything, and he grabbed his backpack and he just started leaving. And we were like, did you finish that? No, but it's five o'clock later. Bye.

[Covino]

And you're like, wow, man.

[Rich]

Oh, I.

[Covino]

How about putting a little extra in?

[Rich]

But then I'm thinking, like, well, just because I was raised to overwork and put that extra effort in, you're still.

[Covino]

Always gonna lose to the guy that is willing to put the extra in.

[Rich]

But is that extra. You're just giving more time to the man. When, like, are you seeing the benefit of that?

[Covino]

Or you're more committed or you're hungrier and you know, you have greater work ethic. I'll always hire the guy with greater work ethic faster than the guy who's quick to leave. Beat it.

[Rich]

Then here's my question to you. Do we just continue to mock younger generations, or do we adjust because. I saw an article. This is interesting.

[Covino]

Let me ask you a lot of companies, and this is the question.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Why does the older generation have to adjust to the younger generation?

[Rich]

Because they have the workforce. You're hiring. That's why.

[Covino]

Yeah, you're hiring, but. Which means you're the superior.

[Rich]

Let me reference two articles, and Denny has, you know, details on this. Shadora Sanders. Perfect Example, two articles I read recently. One of them was all about how if you want to hire someone of this younger generation, they're all about transparency. Don't. Don't tell me about a job without listing the salary. How much you pay me because I'm not hanging out at your company for fun. I want to get paid. So before I interview, before I do anything, how much you paying? And some people are saying, well, that's entitled. It rubs me the wrong way. Gen Z would say, no, I just want transparency. I'm not going to come there, interview and do all this and then you decide what you're going to pay me. What does this job. And I sort of understand it.

[Covino]

I mean, it's a little bold for someone with not that many options. It just sounds a little bold. I'm not mad at that.

[Rich]

Listen to this article. How to Slay. This is written from Gen Z's perspective because you could tell by the headline how to Slay Summer Employment. If you want to attract our generation Gen Z, keep these things in mind. Number one, when we excel, let us know if we do a good job. Gen Z wants a pat on the.

[Covino]

Back pot of positive reinforcement.

[Rich]

They want a ton of it's good.

[Covino]

Hey, I could relate to that. Who doesn't like to be told they're doing a good job? But is it needed and necessary all the time?

[Rich]

Now there's a few others. I'm gonna get to all of them. So how to handle Gen Z?

[Covino]

That's a bit much though, Rich. I mean, we all like that, but it's like necessary. Get outta here.

[Rich]

Do you want to employ productive young people or not? So we're gonna get to all this. Plus some NBA n fell a lot of fun Friday. Covino and Rich right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

Player when you hear that you're being.

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[Covino]

Has spent 24 of those years in jail.

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[Covino]

App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Michael Kassin]

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