Hour 1 - MLB trade deadline

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd Episode: Hour 1 - MLB Trade Deadline
Release Date: July 31, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Introduction

In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Steve Covino and Rich Davis delve deep into the whirlwind of the Major League Baseball (MLB) trade deadline. Joined by guests Danny G, Angela Rye, and Andrew Gillum, the discussion navigates through pivotal trades, fan behaviors, and the broader implications for various teams as the season progresses. Additionally, the conversation touches upon the intertwining dynamics of the National Football League (NFL) power rankings, offering a multifaceted sports analysis for avid fans.

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MLB Trade Deadline and Team Dynamics

Trade Movements and Key Players

The MLB trade deadline serves as the focal point of this episode. The hosts discuss significant trades that have reshaped team rosters, emphasizing the strategic moves made by powerhouse teams.

• Anthony Volpe (New York Yankees):
  Steve Covino highlights the paradox of Volpe's performance and reception by fans. Despite hitting 16 home runs, Volpe has committed 16 errors, leading to significant fan criticism.

  "This dude is still hitting home runs and he hit a big one yesterday. And then of course that base running blunder that you mentioned... It's unbelievable when you think about it. The dude is still hitting home runs and he hit a big one yesterday."
  [05:06]

  Covino passionately argues against the counterproductive behavior of booing players, advocating instead for supportive fan interactions to foster player growth and team morale.

  "When you're at the game and a guy you're rooting for isn't playing up to par, I don't think booing ever helps... So again, when you're at the game and a guy you're rooting for isn't playing up to par, I don't think booing ever helps the team you're rooting for."
  [08:20]

• Recent Trades:
  The hosts mention several key trades, including:

  • Eugenio Suarez moving to the Seattle Mariners.
  • Johan Duran being traded to the Philadelphia Phillies.
  • Shane Bieber heading to the Toronto Blue Jays after recovering from Tommy John surgery.
  • Mason Miller from the Oakland Athletics to the San Diego Padres, intensifying the pitching arms race between the LA Dodgers and the Padres.

  "The baseball's popping. We're going to see where it's headed."
  [20:03]

Fan Behavior and Its Impact

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the detrimental effects of negative fan behaviors, such as booing, especially towards key players undergoing rough patches.

• Encouraging Positive Support:
  Covino emphasizes the importance of supporting players during their struggles to foster a positive team environment.

  "Let me teach you how to be a fan 101. Stop booing important players on your own team. Encourage them. Hype them up, because then they get the yips, and then they're in their own head and they can't throw first base anymore."
  [07:05]

• Comparisons and Analogies:
  The hosts draw parallels between fan behavior and personal relationships to illustrate the futility of negative criticism.

  "Imagine your buddy was going through a divorce and instead of supporting him going out for a beer, cheering him up. You're like, man, you suck at relationships. Ha ha. You stink. That's the equivalent."
  [07:29]

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National League Competitiveness

Current Standings and Playoff Prospects

Andrew Gillum and Danny G analyze the heightened competitiveness within the National League (NL), attributing the excitement to a confluence of strong teams and strategic trades.

• Top Contenders:
  The discussion highlights several NL teams poised for postseason success, including the Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Padres, Cubs, Brewers, and Cardinals.

  "If you look at the NL, who's battling in the East, Mets and Phillies in the Central, Cubs and Brewers... And then out West, Dodgers, Padres."
  [20:03]

• Impact of Trades on Playoff Potential:
  Gillum underscores how recent trades bolster team strengths, particularly in bullpens, which are critical for postseason performance.

  "As you get closer to the postseason, having that strong bullpen is the... Make or break starters."
  [34:09]

• Player Potential and Team Fit:
  Covino discusses the importance of not just statistics but also the personality and fit of players within a team’s culture.

  "It's not just the stats that matter. It's will this guy click on your team and how cool it could be for that guy to be on your team."
  [21:48]

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Fan Engagement and Trade Speculations

Strategies for Making Effective Trades

The conversation delves into the intricacies of trade negotiations, emphasizing that successful deals often involve substantial considerations rather than minor player exchanges.

• Common Fan Misconceptions:
  Danny G critiques the unrealistic expectations some fans have regarding player trades, advocating for more grounded approaches.

  "They're proposing all these trades where you give up nothing but want the world... If you want trading a guy like he Contra on the Marlins, you're not going to get him for two prospects."
  [14:02]

• Realistic Trade Assessments:
  Covino and Gillum stress the necessity of sports managers considering the practical aspects of trades, such as team needs and available assets.

  "The Padres nab Mason Miller and JP Sears. Baseball's popping."
  [19:35]

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NFL Power Rankings and Subjectivity

Critique of NFL on Fox's Power Rankings

Shifting focus to the NFL, the hosts express skepticism about the objectivity and usefulness of power rankings released by broadcasters like NFL on Fox.

• Subjectivity in Rankings:
  Steve Covino criticizes the arbitrary nature of such rankings, comparing them to personal preference lists that lack predictive power.

  "It's just a guy. In his stupid opinion, no one is Madame Ruby Chat GPT can't predict the future. Nobody can."
  [10:52]

• Impact on Fans and Teams:
  The hosts discuss how power rankings can influence fan perceptions and team morale, often without substantial justification.

  "It's really just his list. Again, it would be like if I came up with a list like Rich Davis, I'm gonna tell you the best fast food nuggets. Number one, Chick Fil a, number two, Wendy's."
  [39:43]

• Specific Team Rankings:
  They analyze discrepancies in rankings, noting unexpected placements like the Pittsburgh Steelers and Washington Commanders in higher spots despite mixed performances.

  "Pick the top 15. The ones that stood out to us were the Packers all the way at five. Number six being the Steelers. And there were a couple omissions that were like, what?"
  [50:22]

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Concluding Remarks

Future Episodes and Continuing Discussions

The episode wraps up with a tease of upcoming topics, including deeper dives into NFL strategies, more MLB trade analyses, and the introduction of the hosts’ new podcast, Over Promised. The hosts encourage listeners to stay tuned for ongoing debates and comprehensive sports coverage.

"We're going to talk a lot of NFL today. We are. Football from today until Valentine's Day."
[10:27]

"We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country."
[31:03]

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Notable Quotes

• Steve Covino on Fan Behavior:

  "Imagine you were getting booed and discouraged every time you messed up, every time you said a wrong fact, every time you flubbed a word during a live read. Boo."
  [05:40]

• Danny G on Power Rankings:

  "Madame Ruby didn't know anything. She told Pee Wee his bike was in the basement of the Alamo and..."
  [11:30]

• Andrew Gillum on Team Competitiveness:

  "We've been talking about the MLB trade deadline. Today is at 6 Eastern, 3 Pacific. Things are happening fast and furious this morning."
  [33:07]

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Conclusion

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a thorough examination of the MLB trade deadline's impact on teams and players, intertwining it with discussions on fan behavior and the subjective nature of NFL power rankings. Through insightful dialogue and engaging banter, the hosts and guests provide listeners with a nuanced perspective on current sports dynamics, encouraging a more supportive and informed fanbase.

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[Steve Covino]

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[Steve Covino]

Now, let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

[Danny G]

Well, lucky you. Kavino and Rich in for Colin today on the Herd. And what a day it is, huh? You got the Major League Baseball trade deadline. Football's back.

[Steve Covino]

I'm just pumped. It's Thursday. Thursday's the new so the weekend begins right now. Covino and Rich in for Colin on the Herd. Steve Covino, Rich Davis, and a piece of Collins here. Tuohy's here hanging out. What's up, dude?

[Andrew Gillum]

Hey, guys.

[Steve Covino]

What's up, man?

[Andrew Gillum]

Good to see you again.

[Steve Covino]

It's always great to see you.

[Danny G]

As the security guard in the lobby said, happy Friday Eve. When people say that, I'm like, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but stop it.

[Steve Covino]

That's his thing, though. He says that all the time. I appreciate Happy Friday. Of course. Danny G. Ryan, Spotty, everybody's here. If you gotta chime in. You want something to say on this important. Like Rich said, lots going down. Eight, seven, seven for the Herd. Eight, seven, seven for the Herd. Or hit us at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. Let the wild rumpus start. Man, I hope you had a great Wednesday night. I hope all your teams won in dramatic fashion like mine did. Did you see the Yankee game last night?

[Danny G]

I saw. Who is it in the. In the ninth inning that Forgot how many outs there were? Was that Grisham Wells? Austin Wells.

[Steve Covino]

He pulled some Little League bs. And you know what? I want to mention that we have lots to get to. It's not about the Yankees. I know people hate when I talk about the Yankees, but I do want to bring that up.

[Danny G]

That's true.

[Steve Covino]

I also want to bring up the fact that it looks like I'm going to the ball game. Today is trade deadline Thursday, right? We'll keep you posted. Tuohy's on standby with that. Look at this. It looks like I'm all ready for the game.

[Danny G]

I didn't know they even sold Volpe shirts.

[Andrew Gillum]

I have a vulpe wearing that thing around, man.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, Volpe T shirt, right? And it has the state of New Jersey in the O of Volpe. I'm wearing a Yankees hat.

[Danny G]

Who sells those? Volpe himself.

[Steve Covino]

Listen, it's a whole story in itself. I didn't buy it, right. But I appreciate it. I'm grateful. So someone sent it to me and I'll give them props later, but I want to make the point that I'm doing the opposite of what I hate. I'm walking the talk because I feel like when you're players are struggling or when people in your life are struggling, imagine if you lived life, let's say you told a bad joke here on Fox Sports radio and believe me, it happens. It'll happen multiple times a day.

[Danny G]

Hang standby.

[Steve Covino]

Imagine you were getting booed and discouraged every time you messed up, every time you said a wrong fact, every time you flubbed a word during a live read. Boo. Rich, you suck.

[Danny G]

Suck.

[Steve Covino]

An example of that is coming up in 15 minutes. Exactly. Exactly. I mean stand by for some fails for sure. But imagine if every time you failed or misstepped at your job you were booed by the people that were supposed to be rooting for you. That's always the most counterproductive thing to me in life. This guy is playing on eggshells. He's a league leading what, 16 errors now in the bigs. The only thing keeping him alive is that his bats heating up a little bit which is unbelievable when you think about it. The dude is still hitting home runs and he hit a big one yesterday. And then of course that base running blunder that you mentioned. He hit a game tying home run in a crucial situation. Dude, 16 errors and Yankee fans are booing this guy. And I understand why, because it's frustrating. But does anyone under the moon really thinks that ever helps the team you're rooting for? It's the most counterproductive way of expressing your feelings. Like you got to encourage these dudes. These are young men we're talking about.

[Danny G]

Very mature of you by the way.

[Steve Covino]

Dude, I'll never be that guy. You know you boo the opposing.

[Danny G]

I get your analogy. I'll give you a Colin since we are into the herd, he loves analogy.

[Steve Covino]

Especially at a home field. Rich. It's ridiculous.

[Danny G]

I'll give you a Colin analogy. Imagine if you were going through a divorce and all your friends.

[Steve Covino]

What do you mean imagine I did what, how many years ago now I know you're on your phone with your.

[Danny G]

Ex wife like 10 minutes ago and I saw you aggravated.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, what do you think I'm pulling my hair out for? For fun?

[Danny G]

Imagine your buddy was going through a divorce and instead of supporting him going out for a beer, cheering him up. You're like, man, you suck at relationships. Ha ha. You stink. That's the equivalent.

[Steve Covino]

That's the equivalent again. I get it. Let's say they're playing away.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

The away team's going to boom. Just because. And to get into his head and because he's made another error. You're at home, you're making errors. I understand the fans are frustrated. Believe me, so am I. I'm a fan. But it's the most counterproductive thing. Let me teach you how to be a fan 101. Stop booing important players on your own team. Encourage them. Hype them up, because then they get the yips, and then they're in their own head and they can't throw first base anymore. So you know what I'm doing, guys? I'm not booing Anthony Volpe. Do I want to strangle that guy? Yes. Does he have the potential? Yes. But instead I'm supporting him wearing this miserable T shirt. You think I don't have 3,000 other T shirts to wear? No. I'm supporting the guy. The end.

[Danny G]

All right, good. I'm glad it's the end of Anthony Volpe. But there's one more thing.

[Steve Covino]

Well, it's not the end. He's heating up.

[Danny G]

There's a meme. This is fantastic. Thank you. Danny G. Super producing. There's a meme that says, Anthony Volpe in 2025, 216 batting average, 16 errors. Pete Gray in 1945, a guy that played with one arm, batted.218 with 14 errors.

[Steve Covino]

I know, dude, but do you think booing him and getting booed at his home field when he's trying his hardest helps anybody? Not just him, anyone. So again, when you're at the game and a guy you're rooting for isn't playing up to par, I don't think booing ever helps to boo the opposing team. These are the rules. We agree.

[Danny G]

No one's going to disagree. But yet there's idiots that do it.

[Steve Covino]

I'm not that idiot.

[Danny G]

Change it to the NFL for a second more. People love them. Some football. When your starting quarterback is struggling, I want to kiss you. When you're. When your starting quarterback is struggling, Struggling, and you know they're not going to be replaced. I'm not talking about a guy that, you know, has a short leash when people are calling for the backup, is that equally counterproductive?

[Steve Covino]

Absolutely. I mean, at least you have another option in this case. Right? But it's not helping that other Guy, you're sort of making a choice for the team right there. It's a little different because Volpe is the dude they're invested in. There's no one to back him up. You're waiting and wanting him to perform well. And I'll end it with this. I'm wearing a T shirt. I'm trying to explain why. Because I support. I don't discourage. I'm not booing the guy. Right. But do you think he'll end up with more errors or more home runs? Because he has 16 home runs. Oh. And that's the only reason he's still playing.

[Danny G]

I mean, I hope for his sake. Home runs. All right, well, I mean, that you would hope. I mean, has.

[Steve Covino]

That's my little baby rant of the day. Let's be better fans. I mean, it's pretty obvious. And let's stop being amateur. This isn't Little League. Even though the Yankees made Little League errors last night. We'll get to that later.

[Danny G]

Well, we're going to talk a lot of NFL today. We are. We are here. There's. There's football from today until Valentine's Day. So we got football tonight. Of course. Lions, Chargers in the hall of Fame game. Preseason kicks off. So we're going to talk about an NFL. I have a major problem with an NFL on Fox Power ranking. That to me is, like, so disrespectful to a team. So we're going to get to that.

[Steve Covino]

Can I also share my problem with you and other boneheads that put stock into these lists? It's just a guy. In his stupid opinion, no one is Madame Ruby Chat. GPT can't predict the future. Nobody can. I mean, so to put any value or stock into some jabroni. Jabroni Jones's NFL Power ranking, it means diddly squat. But we do, and I get it. And it's fun. But half of these things are made just to be brought up. And they'll throw something outlandish in that list just to get people buzzing and talking about doesn't really mean anything at all. I mean, I know we know that, but it ends up pissing people off anyway.

[Danny G]

And for the record, Madame Ruby didn't know anything. She told Pee Wee his bike was in the basement of the Alamo and.

[Steve Covino]

There was no basement in the Alamo.

[Danny G]

However, I don't know basement in the Alamo.

[Steve Covino]

Did you see the update? They actually have it there now.

[Danny G]

For real?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, for real. They actually have it at the Alamo. His bike.

[Danny G]

Now, a lot of NFL Like I.

[Steve Covino]

Said, we're going to talk about.

[Danny G]

All that goes on from this point forward in our lives. But I do want to give everyone another moronic fan alert. Essentially, you talk about these fans that boo. They're starting quarterbacks, they're starting shortstops, like the guys that you're supposed to pull for when they're going through a rough time, but fans somehow boo them. In fact, not to be too New York biased, but I'm a Mets fan, and Francisco Lindor said that what he. What he loved more than anything was that when he went through his terrible, like, 0 for 30 streak, the fans never booed him. And he's like, they got my back.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Like, all right, the most pathetic situation you could be in, right, is you go to work and everyone at work dumps on you. The boss tells you you suck. Your colleagues have no respect for you. Right? Then you're like, you finally wrapped up with your day at work. And then you go home, home. And then everyone dumps on you there. It's like, hey, I'm home now. Can we stop dumping on me? And that's the thing. Like you. When you're home, you should at least have the solace of knowing you're not going to be ridiculed and booed at home.

[Danny G]

I want to give another moronic fan alert because today is the day of all days.

[Steve Covino]

You don't want your wife busting your chops.

[Danny G]

This is the day of all days where the idiotic fans come out. And I say that because it's the final moments, the final day of the trade deadline. 6:00pm Eastern tonight. We're like, again, less than six hours for your team to make a deal. Let's make a deal. The crazy part is.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, but there's not a lot left on the table, I'm sure.

[Danny G]

Tui, you've seen this. What was your team again, by the way? Your Padres guys? Oh, Astros. That's right. I know. I should know that.

[Steve Covino]

Astros.

[Danny G]

That's right.

[Steve Covino]

I'm gonna boo that.

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Danny G]

I respect it.

[Steve Covino]

Al Bouve.

[Andrew Gillum]

You can't quit your team.

[Steve Covino]

Of course. Of course. You can never quit your team.

[Danny G]

Did you rock those sweet 80s jerseys as a kid?

[Andrew Gillum]

Absolutely.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

I went to the Astrodome once. I thought it was cool. I thought it was cool when I was a kid.

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

So anyway, trade deadline. Do you have the moronic Astro fans friends, like my Met fan friends that come trade deadline, they propose all these trades where you give up nothing but want the world, Right?

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny G]

Every idiotic friend I have is like, you know, we should go after like, yo, see if the Pirates are willing to part with schemes. Maybe we'll give up a couple minor leaguers. I'm like, you think you're getting your.

[Andrew Gillum]

Whole minor league system for Paul scheme?

[Danny G]

I was like, you want skiing, you're gonna have to give up like Nimmo and Lindor. Something like, scan that.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

So I just think today is the day where we should all stop those moronic fans in their tracks and be like, stop it. Listen to the foolishness you're saying. Because I guarantee there. There are fans like Kavino.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

If you were to want to. If you were to go after a guy like El Contra on the Marlins.

[Steve Covino]

Right.

[Danny G]

While not good this year, he's a guy that teams are probably hoping maybe.

[Andrew Gillum]

He on a better team.

[Danny G]

You're not going to get him for two prospects. You're going to have to give up a current productive piece and prospects.

[Andrew Gillum]

And there's multiple teams bidding on him, too.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

And when people say, my team did nothing, I just want to remind everyone, GMs have to propose a deal. The other team and GM have to say, I like that deal, but here's what I want. Right. Sometimes no move is better than a desperate move.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. There's so many factors involved.

[Danny G]

And I remember not to name drop, but I remember Steve Phillips telling me that once he goes, you know, fans don't get. It's like at the deadline sometimes people try to entice you with a bad deal because they know your fan base. How desperate wants a move. Like right now, the Yankees, they are so desperate, like, we need a move that I don't think Brian Cashman's foolish enough to. To give up a lot just so that you could.

[Steve Covino]

Well, the fantasy is because they need pitching. Right. And most teams do. Most teams need something in the bullpen. The fantasy is the Yankees get Paul Skeens for two dudes you never heard of and a player to be named later. That's. That's the fantasy, Cash. Yeah. We're not willing to give up anybody. But you want the greatest superstar. Yeah. We don't want Austin Slater. We don't need that guy. I wish him the best and I hope he's great. But I do think. Here's another question. Do you think big moves will be made during this show?

[Danny G]

Without a doubt there'll be one.

[Steve Covino]

But no, no, no. I mean big moves, the biggest one. Not like a guy you got to go to Baseball Reference just to check.

[Danny G]

What is he betting 214 with 12 homers. Not a guy like that.

[Steve Covino]

No way.

[Danny G]

So far, Suarez is the only, I think, the Mariners. And, you know, I wanted to bring this up as a Mets fan. They now have two closers, and I'm not trying to get too excited about this, but they have Ryan Helsley that they got from the Cardinals. And Edwin Diaz is back to the Edwin Diaz of a couple years ago. His. He's lights out. So I wonder, is it okay for your 8th inning guy?

[Steve Covino]

He's lights out. Trumpets on.

[Danny G]

Is it okay for your 8th inning guy to have an intro? Because as of right now, picture yourself. I'm going to paint the picture. You're at Citi Field.

[Steve Covino]

The Savannah Bananas are selling out, and they're doing backflips. Yeah.

[Danny G]

Your middle reliever should have it in show.

[Steve Covino]

I think you got to step up with the theatrics a little bit. You got to remember, it's baseball. It's serious, it's fun. It's still a game, though, and there's families there and they're spending lots of money. You still have to put some show biz and entertainment into it. So I know it sounds weird, but again, that's what you're competing with. You're competing with. With bananas and entertainment and fun. You got to step up the fun factor a little bit.

[Danny G]

Recently, Citi Field added like, a whole, like, light show in the stadium. So picture this. 8th inning, Mitt's got the lead. Ryan Helsley comes in. All of a sudden, Hell's Bells kicks in.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny G]

Hell's Bells starts. And all of a sudden, Citi Field goes dark.

[Steve Covino]

You confused the PA Guy, though. I heard trumpets.

[Danny G]

I know Ryan had one job.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, but that could happen. I thought we did that.

[Danny G]

As you know.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, these are the possibilities. No, no.

[Danny G]

So I'll blame it on you. And you have one job, Ryan. So Ryan Helsley comes out to Hell's Bell. Citi Field goes nuts. Bunch of Guidos and Queens pumping their fists to classic rock.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, it's unconventional, Rich, but I think that. Yeah, you got a big star there. You give him his intro.

[Danny G]

A setup guy, huh? And now then, in the ninth inning breakout, Timmy trumpets for Edwin Diaz. I think Citi Field's gonna be popping.

[Steve Covino]

I think it has to go that way. I think it's a really solid question. But again, in today's world, where everything's a circus and a spectacle in every sport, have you seen what they're doing in golf? Max Golf.

[Danny G]

What's it called? Max Golf.

[Steve Covino]

Maxi golf. Maxi golf. Get it right.

[Danny G]

I got that hip surgery.

[Steve Covino]

Maxi golf. You know, every sport has a circus sideshow going on, so the actual sport has to compete in some way, and taking fun out of it is not the way to go. So I know it's unconventional for your setup guy to have a dramatic intro, but. Yeah, he's not just anybody. He had his own thing. I think you roll with it.

[Danny G]

So, as of right now, the big deals. Suarez, probably Helsley. Who else did you say?

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah, Suarez, Helsley. Last night you had, let's see, Johan Duran yesterday afternoon to the Phillies.

[Danny G]

Oh, that's right.

[Andrew Gillum]

That was a real big Phillies. Yeah, yeah, huge.

[Danny G]

You know, the NL east is really trying to shore up their bullpen.

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah, for sure. Shane Bieber this morning went Blue Jays.

[Steve Covino]

That.

[Danny G]

That could be a big one because he's coming off of Tommy John. Correct. And he just had a rehab start and did well, so.

[Steve Covino]

And the Padres made a couple of moves.

[Danny G]

Yo, there's. There's something about the Padres that scares me. It should scare your Dodgers, Danny.

[Andrew Gillum]

That's the thing. It's all about the Dodgers. It's like this. They're in this race, this arms race, right?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. It's just Dodgers and Padres now. Giants are out.

[Danny G]

Yeah, Giants are selling. They're. They're stripping the car and selling it. Yep, Selling the parts.

[Steve Covino]

Padres nab Mason Miller and JP Sears.

[Danny G]

Well, I'm telling you, baseball's popping. I know. Colin has said it. Who said it first, though? Deion Sanders. Baseball's topping.

[Steve Covino]

I been quoting Deion Sanders on that one, because there's a lot of speculation all throughout the season of, man, there's a lot of superstars in the game, and there's a lot of teams still in it. So buyers and sellers and who's getting who. This is big. And it all comes down today. And, you know, not to nerd out, because I try not to. I am on the edge of my seat and we're in a. Like I said, I'm dressed up like I'm going to the game today. It's a big day. And we'll keep you posted here.

[Danny G]

I want you to look at the National League for a second and just realize why baseball not only is popping, but why there's excitement. I hate to. This is no dump on the small market teams, but the teams that bring big numbers and have big fan bases are all there right now. If you look at the nl, who's battling in the East, Mets and Phillies in the Central, Cubs and Brewers, who just have a, you know, have a great rivalry now. And Cincinnati and the Cardinals are right on their tail. Right. They're not out of it. Out of it, yep. And then out West, Dodgers, Padres. Like the nl. If the playoffs started and you told me that it was Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Padres, Cubs, brewers, that's the sixth.

[Andrew Gillum]

Good as it gets.

[Danny G]

That's what you want.

[Steve Covino]

Think about it, though. It's not just the stats that matter. It's will this guy click on your team and how cool it could be for that guy to be on your team. To go from a failing, miserable team to a contending team. That dude could bring some crazy spark like McMahon with the Yanks, you know, had to walk on yesterday. That brought so much more excitement to a flat team. So the personality of that guy also matters a lot. So when you sit there and you wonder why that guy, maybe he's just due. Maybe he's the right fit personality wise. And again, you have to think of the excitement and personality that guy is bringing to your team.

[Danny G]

You know, Tuohy, I have a guy that I think is gonna make an impact if he does move. To back up Cavino's point of sometimes. I know, listen. They're all human. We sometimes think these athletes don't let outside noise where they're playing. Family, all this thing, these things interfere. Luis Robert on the White Sox is a guy that was a star. The White Sox have stunk. If you put.

[Andrew Gillum]

He's not motivated.

[Danny G]

If you put Luis Robert on the Blue Jays, Yankees, Tigers, Phillies, Mets, Dodgers. If you put him on a team that's. That has stars, that's winning. You don't think Luis Robert finds his way again.

[Steve Covino]

He's pumped. And then his excitement is contagious. He gets everyone else more pumped. I mean, that's just how it works in life.

[Andrew Gillum]

He was supposed to be a superstar.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Andrew Gillum]

And then the White Sox went down the tank.

[Danny G]

And, you know, to me, to me.

[Steve Covino]

That'S the new blood, man. Yeah. So that's what makes this even more exciting. That player could come in and bring that juice. They're pumped. They're going from. Again, I'm using my example, but McMahon went from the Rockies to the Yankees. The Yankees were flat. He's bringing all this energy now, and that's what you're hoping for. And that all goes down today. So baseball's popping. We're going to see where it's headed.

[Danny G]

What was the opposite? Just think of that. Imagine, you go from. Imagine going from the Rockies.

[Steve Covino]

Someone went to the White Sox.

[Andrew Gillum]

That's one of the worst teams we've ever seen in baseball. In baseball history.

[Danny G]

And regardless of whether or not the Yankees are playing great right now, you go from the worst team in history to put on the pinstripes. And I hate the Yankees, but that's got to be such a mental change. Danny, remember last year, a guy from the Dodgers got traded to the White Sox.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Vargas.

[Danny G]

Vargas.

[Steve Covino]

We all saw that picture of him so miserable in the dugout.

[Danny G]

Sad. Vargas, that was terrible. And awesome all the time.

[Steve Covino]

Weakest. That's like you're with the hottest woman ever.

[Danny G]

You're with Honey Boo Boo's mom, like, overnight.

[Steve Covino]

What? That's a hard adjustment.

[Danny G]

You go from Sydney Sweeney to Honey Boo Boo.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But I don't know. Are you ready to go national that you support Sydney Sweeney? She's in a lot of controversy.

[Danny G]

I read something about this, and let me tell you, I will.

[Steve Covino]

It's not okay to like hot women, Rich.

[Danny G]

No, it's not okay to like hot women. Number one, apparently. Right? But I read something online, and it's so true. And it's funny that I said online, because I'm contradicting myself, but it said, the American Eagle Sydney Sweeney ad. It's one of those cases of no one's really mad.

[Andrew Gillum]

No, it's.

[Danny G]

Social media's not real, Right?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

So it's like one of those stories. We all see it in sports and pop culture where it's like, people are up in arms about blank, and you're.

[Steve Covino]

Thinking, where are they?

[Danny G]

And it's like, what people show me in person. And then you really can't find someone, and you're like, you know what?

[Steve Covino]

I outrage over American Eagle campaign. Like, who?

[Danny G]

So is someone gonna tell me Sydney Sweeney doesn't have good genetics? I got two eyes. Those look like good genetics to me.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know. There are people getting canceled. Like, influencers getting canceled because they just mention that she's hot.

[Danny G]

Influencers aren't even real. They're not. It's all part of, like, fake life. Like, social media, where, like. So to me, that's why, like, when someone on Twitter is, like, mocks you or tells you you're terrible, and you look at their picture, and it's a picture of, like, a dog in the hood of a car. You're not a real person. So to me, again, that is a great example of not real life.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. And really, to bring it home, guys, this is Cavino and Rich in for calling on the herd analogies.

[Danny G]

What we talked about before that. Oh, baseball.

[Steve Covino]

Baseball analogies are the real deal. Imagine going from your job, let's say you're playing for Contender, you're working for Fox Sports Radio, and they trade you to the frog and Poughkeepsie.

[Danny G]

103.5 the frog.

[Steve Covino]

Now you're on the Frog. Imagine if that was, you know, your real life. That's why it is important. You know, we question why these players pout and why they fight for money. That's a tough pill to swallow and a part of their life and career that most people don't have to deal with. Sure, anyone could get fired at any moment. But imagine you're on the Dodgers, you get traded to the White Sox. That sucks for your career and for your family.

[Danny G]

Yeah, no doubt. Well, listen, NFL, it would be ridiculous not to dive in heavy today because it's a day, man. I mean, whether you like it or not, whether the stars play tonight, the NFL kicks off.

[Steve Covino]

What a day, huh?

[Danny G]

Fame game, trade deadline and the hall of Fame game for the NFL.

[Steve Covino]

And it's Nudie magazine day.

[Danny G]

What a country. We got Markovino and Rich in for the great Colin Cowherd on the Herd. Next, be sure to catch live editions.

[Steve Covino]

Of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

[Danny G]

Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.

[Steve Covino]

And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me.

[Danny G]

Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years.

[Steve Covino]

Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised.

[Danny G]

Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time.

[Steve Covino]

There you go overpromising and remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely join Us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app at Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Tuohy]

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[Danny G]

Who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining.

[Angela Rye]

Hey, everybody. I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lampot with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela, I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for that's the truth.

[Steve Covino]

We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.

[Angela Rye]

Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.

[Steve Covino]

We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime.

[Angela Rye]

In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.

[Danny G]

Tiffany, do not run to no rural South.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know what you're on.

[Angela Rye]

What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.

[Steve Covino]

Listen to Native Land Pod on the.

[Danny G]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Steve Covino]

All right. Good day.

[Danny G]

I said good day today. Such a great day in for the Herd. A great day because it's the trade deadline and football. So if you're a sports fan, today is one hell of a Thursday.

[Steve Covino]

And it's Friday Eve, as the security guy says, Friday Eve, bro. That's right in for Colin on the Herd. Eight, seven, seven for the Herd. Now, Covino and Richard, we're on Monday through Friday at our regular time, 2 to 4 on the west, 5 to 7 on the east. Everything at Covino and Rich, if you want to see our stupid punchable faces, especially riches. And we have a bonus show too that you could watch. It's called Over Promised. It's on fox Sports Radio's YouTube channel. And it's sort of a hybrid of what we do on Fox Sports Radio and our own podcast, our Patreon, Kavino and Rich. But again, CNR on FSR in for Colin on the Herd. The home you've worked so hard for is ready to work hard for you with a home equity loan from Rocket Mortgage.

[Danny G]

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[Steve Covino]

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.

[Danny G]

Tuohy, what's up?

[Andrew Gillum]

Hey, guys, thanks for letting me sit in today. I appreciate it.

[Danny G]

For people that listen every day to the herd, our perspective on Tuohy is that he's like the nicest dude there is. Are you ever. Are you ever mean or.

[Andrew Gillum]

No, I get. I can get a little antsy sometimes when things don't go our way, especially like behind the scenes when things are kind of getting off the rails a little bit.

[Steve Covino]

I think it's super nice guys that you gotta. You gotta worry about those guys because they're so nice and they lead kind. And when people step on their toes, they're more offended. Like, I'm a nice guy. You've pushed me too far.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Tui, tell him about that time.

[Danny G]

We've been talking about the MLB at Collins Head. Oh, man.

[Andrew Gillum]

We. We've been talking about the MLB trade deadline. Today is at 6 Eastern, 3 Pacific. Things are happening fast and furious this morning. Just to kind of recap a little bit, the A's, kind of a surprising one.

[Danny G]

They.

[Andrew Gillum]

They are trading their 100 mile an hour flamethrower closer Mason Miller to the Padres, which this affects the Dodgers guys because it's an arms race now with LA and San Diego trying to keep track of each other, keep pace with each other. This is a big one. This is a big one.

[Danny G]

Well, as we. As you get closer to the postseason, having that strong bullpen is the. Is, you know, make or break starters.

[Andrew Gillum]

Go shorter in the game.

[Danny G]

As you've noticed, there have been. The Dodgers won the World Series and they had games throughout that playoff run with bullpen games.

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

So listen, you have a strong bullpen. It can mean all the difference.

[Andrew Gillum]

Gotta have it. Just other couple ones from last night. Late last night, Twins yesterday, Johan Durant of the Phillies, big one. Eugenio Suarez is heading back to Seattle. Shane Bieber going to Toronto this morning. Your Mets are making moves, Rich. They got a big bullpen now. Looking good. Looking good. So we'll keep you posted as things are breaking because they will break over the next couple of hours.

[Danny G]

I love that. Sidearm specialist.

[Andrew Gillum]

Oh, oh, Tyler Rogers from the Giants.

[Danny G]

From the Giants, Yeah.

[Andrew Gillum]

The Submariner.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

I haven't seen a guy like that. Do you remember the name of the 80s? Jeff Innis?

[Steve Covino]

How about Dan Quisenberry?

[Danny G]

That's such a unique thing.

[Steve Covino]

You got to think of the game. Rbi, baseball, and who threw sidearm. Who threw sidearm.

[Danny G]

You got to remember also, every step of the way, coaches told that kid, stop throwing that way. And they had the wherewithal to say, no, this is my style.

[Andrew Gillum]

You would never coach that.

[Steve Covino]

Right.

[Andrew Gillum]

Come on, get that arm angle up. All right, guys. Also, the NFL is back. Hall of Fame game is tonight. Chargers, Lions from Canton. The hall of Fame inductions will be this weekend. Antonio Gates, Jared Allen, Sterling Sharp and Eric Allen are this year's inductees. No Justin Herbert. No Jared Goff tonight at quarterback for both the Lions and Chargers. Jim Harbaugh, though, had an interesting bite about Justin Herbert. Talking about his quarterback.

[Steve Covino]

This is from the heart.

[Danny G]

This is the truth.

[Steve Covino]

Justin Herbert's biggest weakness is all of. All of those that he's counting on on offense, coaches, offensive line, playmakers, receivers, running backs.

[Danny G]

To get up to his level.

[Steve Covino]

You know, that's, that's, that's. I wake up every day to try.

[Danny G]

To get to his level. It's like when someone asks you in a job interview, what's your biggest weakness? You're like, I tried too hard.

[Andrew Gillum]

I mean, okay, so where are we at with Justin Herbert? Danny Parkins, who was in for calling this week, we had some wild chatter, like, he's a big Herbert guy. But like we were talking, would you trade Herbert for Jalen? Hurts right now.

[Danny G]

See, my take is that this is the year where I feel like we've given Justin Herbert so much time to prove that he's the guy everyone thinks he is. And eventually it's like, dude, where's the results? Last year, his one playoff performance got.

[Andrew Gillum]

Killed by the Texans.

[Danny G]

Got killed.

[Steve Covino]

Rich, you said the same thing last off season.

[Danny G]

You're right. Am I the guy that keeps giving him year after year? Eventually it's going to be like, yo, Herbert's not delivering like we were. Oh, there's just so much potential. But then again, I mean, he's not a rookie. He's not even year two or three.

[Steve Covino]

It's like, then ask yourself, why does he get the pass?

[Andrew Gillum]

That's the big question. That is a big question. Because, like, he. Of all the big name quarterbacks, it does feel like he gets the pass, doesn't he?

[Danny G]

I Think because he's in la. I think with Harbaugh year two, if nothing happens now, the pass is gone. But you know who's playing tonight? Trey Lance.

[Andrew Gillum]

Trey Lance is starting out.

[Danny G]

He's starting. And I think that because the Niners somehow recovered with Brock Purdy and kept winning. No one talks about Trey Lance as the bust of all busts. The Niners gave up a bunch to get him at pick number three. So when you hear about Jamarcus Russell or this guy, that guy, all the biggest busts, Ryan Leaf. No one brings up Trey Lance.

[Andrew Gillum]

How about the fact that Cowboys gave up a fourth round pick for him too, to be a backup, and he never played.

[Danny G]

Never played. So what are we doing? Maybe Trey Lance finds his way to a nice backup spot. And God forbid something happens to Herbert, he gets a chance.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe, maybe. Maybe certain people garner more sympathy or empathy and other people are just more fun to pick on. Like I feel like picking on Rich is more fun than picking on me. Maybe the media works in that way. Maybe. Pick and choose who gets criticism fair.

[Andrew Gillum]

That's the news.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you.

[Danny G]

Well, that's the news.

[Steve Covino]

And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. All right, so thanks, Tuohy.

[Danny G]

He's the man. Tui. Yep. NFL on Fox came out with a list and it was the power rankings going into the season. And we went over this yesterday on our afternoon show. Danny G was like, guys, you have three strikes. It was very Family Feud style.

[Steve Covino]

No, he was like, guys, we got three strikes. We're gonna play a game right now.

[Danny G]

It was very Dan Patrick versus Richard.

[Steve Covino]

First of all, I don't sound anything like that. Yeah, you do.

[Danny G]

It was very Family Feud style. And he gave us three strikes to see if we could pick all 15 in the top 15 again, 32 teams. Danny said, Pick the top 15. We failed. I thought barely though, but I thought with three strikes, well, we're not going to miss three. This list had a couple odd omissions and some odd additions. So when you think about the top 15, and I know power rankings are just that, it's a made up list. As. As Red said in Shawshank, that's just a made up thing by made up people. Whatever he said.

[Steve Covino]

Red also said, how often do you look at a man's shoes?

[Danny G]

Everyone in here is innocent. Yeah, Red said a lot of stuff. How are get busy living or get busy dying? It's a great movie, Rich, but it's a. It's really just a made up list. Like you said, some jabroni that's like, yeah, yeah, here's who. I think it's like back in the day when they would have those like, Maxim hottie lists in the 2000s, like, who's the hottest girls of the year? Here's number one. It's like, says who? You're one dude's preference.

[Steve Covino]

Wait, you just called NFL on Fox. Fox Sports Very own Ralph Factiono. You just called him a jabroni.

[Danny G]

I mean, in the kindest way, he's no different than the guy that made the maxim hottie list in 08 or something.

[Steve Covino]

No, but what I do believe, I believe that it's partially what he believes and then partially as a guy who just wants some clicks and wants people to speculate. I think he does strategically. To strategically involved. He throws one team in there just to upset everybody to get people talking.

[Danny G]

And leaves a few off. But again, I respect the game, but it's really just his list. Again, it would be like if I came up with a list like Rich Davis, I'm gonna tell you the best fast food nuggets. Number one, Chick Fil, A, number two, Wendy's. And, you know, I might say, I might leave something off just to upset people.

[Steve Covino]

Number three, Checkers, bro. Checkers.

[Danny G]

Leave off like raising canes. I was just gonna say, yeah, you'd.

[Steve Covino]

Put raising canes 15th. Yeah, there'd be pitchforks. And again, I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not saying that we know for fact this is what happens. But on other lists, I do believe that happens. Truthfully, we worked for Maxim. We know they did it just to get people speculating.

[Danny G]

I saw recently that. Who was it? Some source with no real credibility in the world. But someone came up with, like, the best podcast list. Oh, yeah, and they left off like Joe Rogan. They left off call her daddy. They left off like all the Fox Sports shows that are big time. It was honestly, it was like. Remember, like when Howard Stern wasn't in the radio hall of fame, right?

[Steve Covino]

It was like to get people talking.

[Danny G]

Is it really a hall of Fame then?

[Steve Covino]

Or you could just simply say, says who? Says who?

[Danny G]

Yeah, I'll be like, Trump's lawyer. Says who? So who has left off the NFL on Fox Power Rankings top 15 and who was on it? It'll shock you. I'm insulted on behalf of one team in particular. And we'll get to that. And a theory about the face of your team and what it says about your team. We'll do that next. CNR in for the great Colin Cowherd. Here on the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of.

[Steve Covino]

The herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am.

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[Tuohy]

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[Danny G]

Who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining.

[Angela Rye]

Hey, everybody. I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lampa with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela, I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth.

[Steve Covino]

We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.

[Angela Rye]

Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.

[Steve Covino]

We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime.

[Angela Rye]

In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South?

[Danny G]

Tiffany, do not run to no rural South.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know what you're on.

[Angela Rye]

What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.

[Steve Covino]

Listen to Native Land Pod on the.

[Danny G]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Steve Covino]

Welcome home, y'.

[Danny G]

All.

[Steve Covino]

I never till this day have lost the game of rbi. You know why?

[Danny G]

Greatest guy in the world had a.

[Steve Covino]

Particular skill with my big toe that if you were winning, I accidentally always hit the reset button.

[Danny G]

You would be that guy.

[Steve Covino]

I know you're that guy. Oh, man. Sorry. Yeah, man. RBI baseball on a throwback Thursday. Hey, Cavino and Rich in for Colin on the herd. The home you've worked so hard for is ready to work hard for you with a home equity loan from Rocket Mortgage. To learn how you can turn your.

[Danny G]

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[Steve Covino]

It really is an exciting day.

[Danny G]

It's wild to think, right? And I've Said this before, I don't know about you. My guess is all of us have things in common. But one of the big commonalities has to be how your life changes when football starts. We could all be so different in many ways. But if you're a football fan, come August, September, when this all kicks in, Monday night, Thursday night, if you're into college, on Saturday, Sunday, Sunday night, all day Sunday. And then this year with a lot of the holiday games, there's a couple Friday games. The NFL sort of takes over your life in a way. Fantasy football, gambling, everything you do. Football season is so different.

[Steve Covino]

Since we're in for calling on the Herd, why don't we share one of our CNR patented moves that we perfected over the years?

[Danny G]

My wife is laying in bed. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, not.

[Steve Covino]

That's for the other show, Danny G. How many days until the actual season? Season? 30 something, 36, 35. Now we're down into the 30s, so you have 30 something days to really butter up the wifey so that she doesn't bust your chops, squeeze your shoes once the season starts.

[Danny G]

But then again, I don't know if it's wise to end up with a woman that doesn't share a little bit of interest.

[Steve Covino]

It's too late for a lot of people. I'm just saying use those 30 days wisely for dinners and maybe a little weekend getaway, a little bit of romance. Because you know you're not gonna have the same amount of time in 30 something days.

[Danny G]

Well, let me remind everyone before you get into this list that I've said this for years. I think you need to date someone a full calendar year before you should ever consider getting engaged or live with them or anything. Because the same way you don't know, you know, a woman's habits during winter or summer, you gotta make sure she's.

[Steve Covino]

Shaving her legs even in the wintertime.

[Danny G]

But you need to make sure.

[Steve Covino]

Gotta have priorities.

[Danny G]

You gotta make sure that if you're like, no, babe, you don't understand. On Sundays, I'm sorta locked in. I dated a girl once that would constantly do like, when is it over? When is it over? When is it over? It's tough. And I'm like, I'm not saying sports should dominate your life, but I thank my father in law for sort of raising my wife to realize that football is part of.

[Andrew Gillum]

Well, she's from tech, my wife's from Texas.

[Danny G]

She gets it. So. So I think that's key. Now let's get into this list. NFL on Fox, we say lists are made for one reason, and they're made to get people to debate and argue and fight. NFL and Fox came out with the power rankings and to get you hyped a little bit, of course, the top 15. Now we could simply get some of these out of the way right away and say, of course you knew the top four were going to be Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs and Bills. I think there's no argument that those are going to be the top four. If anything, they'd make everyone's top five or six. Right. Then it gets tricky because there's. There's a team that I feel is on this list early on that I love. I love the sentiment. But right there at number six and number five, the packers are there. By the way, a lot of people think packers gonna have a big comeback year. Number six, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Steve Covino]

So controversial because are they going to have over nine wins, 10 wins, sixth in the NFL power rankings. You really put a lot on Aaron Rodgers here, who hasn't really proven anything in the past two years.

[Danny G]

Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf, they've made improvements. They're old or Tomlins, like somehow never, you know, has a losing season.

[Steve Covino]

But again, jabroni Jones. Yeah. Half of Ralph from NFL Fox.

[Danny G]

Props to Ralph.

[Steve Covino]

Ralphie V is what I call him. Don't you guys feel like the Lions should be right there at that slot?

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

But again, it gets your eyes. It's an eye grab immediately to be like, come on, the Steelers. And it gets people buzzing.

[Danny G]

Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this, Danny G. Yesterday, without. I don't want to be the guy. We're not Spider Harrison or Ryan Seacrest. I'm not going to, I'm not going.

[Steve Covino]

To do a countdown of the list. Coming in at number seven.

[Danny G]

We're not going to do that.

[Steve Covino]

Washington Commanders, Commandos, as I call them.

[Danny G]

I'm. I don't want to do a countdown list. And if we were, we should do it reverse. No one starts to countdown at number one. But Danny said, Pick the top 15. The ones that stood out to us were the packers all the way at five. Number six being the Steelers. And there were a couple omissions that were like, what? Number 16, the Denver Broncos. They're considered dead middle of the pack. And Tui, I was just watching a clip of Colin from last week on Fox talking about how they had like a top 10 personnel. In fact, number six ranked as far as personnel and roster.

[Andrew Gillum]

Yeah. So last week ESPN and the Athletic did a ESPN did a roster ranking, Athletic did a preseason ranking and the ESPN roster ranking Denver sixth, Green Bay 14th. In the athletic preseason rankings, Green Bay is fifth and Denver is 14th.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, it's tough to figure out the other ones that stumped us yesterday. We talked about it on our regular show. You can hear it on the podcast Cavino and Rich. We didn't get 14 and 15. The Cardinals and the Vikings.

[Danny G]

I can't. That to me is another one. The Cardinals. I get it.

[Steve Covino]

We were trying to guess the top 15 and they were not in our top 15.

[Danny G]

You got young players, but you're telling me I would listen. Not saying I'm going to bet my my home or my children, but I think I might wager them if it meant Cardinals placing better than the Niners on this list. We're gonna break this down more and our theory about faces of your team and what it says about your team next right here in Fox Sports American.

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[Danny G]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Danny G]

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