Hour 1 - Moving the Bat Paste!

Summary

Episode Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – "Hour 1 - Moving the Bat Paste!"

Release Date: March 31, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume (Featuring Bob Pittman, Kavino, and Rich)

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Introduction

In the "Hour 1 - Moving the Bat Paste!" episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Bob Pittman, Kavino, and Rich engage in a spirited discussion about one of baseball's most talked-about innovations: the Yankees' introduction of the "torpedo bat." This episode delves deep into the technical aspects, regulatory compliance, and the ensuing controversy surrounding this new piece of equipment, offering listeners a comprehensive analysis of its impact on the game.

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1. The Emergence of the Torpedo Bat

Time Stamp: [06:10] – [08:30]

The conversation kicks off with the introduction of the Yankees' new "torpedo bat," designed specifically for player Anthony Volpe. Bob Pittman explains the fundamental changes in the bat's design:

Bob Pittman [07:09]: “They were pretending and acting like all the Yankees are using it. It was designed for Anthony Volpe. They kept hitting the ball on the logo.”

The bat's unique design shifts the girth closer to the handle, enhancing control and swing speed without breaching MLB regulations.

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2. Compliance with MLB Rules

Time Stamp: [07:56] – [08:25]

A crucial point of discussion revolves around whether the torpedo bat adheres to MLB's stringent guidelines. The hosts meticulously dissect the rules to ensure the bat's legality:

Bob Pittman [07:58]: “Rule 3.02, according to the MLB, bats can't be thicker than 2.61 inches... it's just distributed differently.”

They confirm that the bat remains within the permitted dimensions, emphasizing its construction from solid wood and the strategic redistribution of weight to optimize performance.

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3. Innovation vs. Tradition in Baseball Equipment

Time Stamp: [08:25] – [10:35]

The debate intensifies as the hosts weigh the benefits of innovation against traditional equipment norms. Kavino and Bob advocate for embracing advancements that can enhance player performance and game excitement:

Kavino [08:26]: “Nerds and jocks collaborate, look what happens.”

Bob Pittman [09:21]: “It's a matter of time before everybody gets them... players are open to like, yeah, man, I like it.”

They draw parallels to past innovations like pitching speeds and defensive shifts, arguing that evolution in equipment is natural and can bring a fresh dynamic to the sport.

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4. Public and Fan Reactions

Time Stamp: [09:57] – [13:32]

Addressing the significant backlash from fans and critics, the hosts challenge the legitimacy of the cheating accusations:

Bob Pittman [10:35]: “Only Jazz, Chisholm, and Volpe are using it... it's not fake.”

Kavino [12:14]: “All new stuff is not good for everybody... they have something for everything.”

They suggest that negative sentiments are primarily fueled by team loyalty and misinformation rather than factual rule violations, urging listeners to look beyond headlines.

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5. Future of Equipment Innovations in Sports

Time Stamp: [13:44] – [17:23]

Expanding the conversation beyond baseball, the hosts explore how other sports continually adapt and innovate their equipment:

Bob Pittman [14:10]: “How many innovations with helmet designs, compression sleeves, and socks in the NBA.”

Kavino [14:17]: “It's science mixed with athleticism more than ever.”

They predict a trend of increasing technological integration in sports gear, emphasizing its role in enhancing athlete performance and safety.

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6. Ignoring Misinformation and Embracing Progress

Time Stamp: [23:12] – [37:00]

The hosts address the rampant misinformation and advocate for a balanced perspective on equipment changes:

Bob Pittman [37:04]: “Yankees hired him just for that. We've seen equipment innovation, why was the bat the same for so long?”

They stress the importance of adhering to rules while remaining open to innovations that can positively influence the game, dismissing unfounded rumors as baseless attacks on the Yankees' integrity.

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Conclusion

In wrapping up the episode, Bob, Kavino, and Rich reaffirm their support for the Yankees' torpedo bat, viewing it as a legitimate and strategic enhancement within MLB's regulations. They encourage fans to appreciate the potential benefits of such innovations and to discern fact from fiction amidst the swirling controversies.

Bob Pittman [49:45]: “If it stays within the rules, then what are you complaining about? That's really the problem. Yeah. What's your problem? Relax.”

The hosts leave listeners with a call to embrace progress and innovation in sports equipment, highlighting the Yankees' pioneering role in this development.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Bob Pittman [07:09]: “They were pretending and acting like all the Yankees are using it. It was designed for Anthony Volpe. They kept hitting the ball on the logo.”

• Bob Pittman [07:58]: “Rule 3.02, according to the MLB, bats can't be thicker than 2.61 inches... it's just distributed differently.”

• Kavino [08:26]: “Nerds and jocks collaborate, look what happens.”

• Bob Pittman [09:21]: “It's a matter of time before everybody gets them... players are open to like, yeah, man, I like it.”

• Bob Pittman [10:35]: “Only Jazz, Chisholm, and Volpe are using it... it's not fake.”

• Kavino [12:14]: “All new stuff is not good for everybody... they have something for everything.”

• Bob Pittman [37:04]: “Yankees hired him just for that. We've seen equipment innovation, why was the bat the same for so long?”

• Bob Pittman [49:45]: “If it stays within the rules, then what are you complaining about? That's really the problem. Yeah. What's your problem? Relax.”

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Key Takeaways

• The Yankees' torpedo bat is a strategic innovation within MLB's regulatory framework, primarily utilized by select players like Anthony Volpe.
• The bat's design alters weight distribution without exceeding MLB's specifications, enhancing control and swing efficiency.
• Public backlash is largely driven by team loyalty and misinformation, rather than genuine rule violations.
• Innovation in sports equipment is a continuous process across various sports, aimed at improving performance and safety.
• Embracing technological advancements while adhering to regulations can lead to an enriched sporting experience.

This comprehensive analysis provides listeners with an in-depth understanding of the torpedo bat controversy, balanced viewpoints on equipment innovation, and insights into navigating sports-related misinformation.

Transcript

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[Kavino]

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[Kavino]

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[Bob Pittman]

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[Bob Pittman]

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[Kavino]

I mean, it felt like it, right?

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

Um, we gotta talk about this torpedo bat. I know everyone else has, but I feel like our opinions more fun and better. So first of all, as a Mets fan, Danny G. As a Dodgers fan, I was Sam Dodgers fan. I mean, you're the Yankee guy here. Cavino, I would love to hate on you. I would love to say cheating, bogus bs. But they've done nothing wrong. Anyone that's opposing what the Yankees are doing, Just a bunch of damn haters.

[Bob Pittman]

It's funny that you say, I would love to say cheating and all that. That's what everybody's saying online. There's so much misinformation and so many people who are so upset by this. But I keep hearing the wrong rumors over and over and over again. They're pretending and acting like all the Yankees are using it. It was designed for Anthony Volpe. That's why I said the Volpedo bat, because he wasn't getting around on the ball. He kept hitting the ball on the logo. So they said, let's make the meatier part of the bat where the logo is closer to the handle.

[Kavino]

So essentially you're changing where the girth is.

[Bob Pittman]

Yes, exactly. And girth could be distributed in different places on everybody.

[Kavino]

Didn't he once say girth is worth?

[Bob Pittman]

Oh, yeah. So that's what she said. The only people that used it for the Yankees this weekend, and they hit nine home runs in one game, like 14, 15 home runs over the weekend. Only Jazz, Chisholm and Volpe are using it. So the thought that Aaron Judge and Goldschmidt and all these guys. No, that's fake. The fact that it's illegal. Also false and fake. The Rules are simple. Everyone's throwing out these rules as if they're experts. Rule 3.02, according to the MLB, bats can't be thicker than 2.61 inches, right? 2.61.

[Kavino]

That's what she said.

[Bob Pittman]

And guess what? It's not bigger than 2.61. That's the magic number here. It's just distributed differently. Has to be made of solid wood. Guess what? That's what it's made of. Solid wood. Just distributed differently. Can't have a cut in the hole, the tip of the bat deeper than one inch. It does not. 42 inches. Inches in length. That's the limit. And those are the rules. And it just goes by the rules. They were just innovative and changed it up a little bit.

[Kavino]

That's surprising.

[Bob Pittman]

What's more surprising, Rich, is that it took this long for someone to try to innovate something.

[Kavino]

That's what happens when nerds and jocks collaborate, right? Yankees got an MIT like scientist nerd Aaron Liners. When you get nerds and jocks working together, look what happens.

[Nate Thompson]

How do you think you're going to beat the Alpha Betas any other way? Right?

[Kavino]

You know what? Get that javelin. Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

Lamar Luttrell.

[Bob Pittman]

Well, you are just looking for every advantage, every edge. Will not deny that, but I think it's smart. You know, it's like, are you mad that pitchers are throwing 108 miles per hour now? The game changes. The game advances. Equipment changes all the time. All the time. And if it's in with the in the parameters of the MLB rules, then what's the problem? Besides all the lies that are being told on social media. Social media? I haven't seen a story explode like this in social media in a while.

[Nate Thompson]

Wait, you mean the story today about the Yankees big new gloves that they're.

[Bob Pittman]

Debuting in the outfield?

[Nate Thompson]

That's fake.

[Kavino]

I saw how they changed the Yankees logo too to make it like a fat wiffle ball bat. Because the K in the Yankees like.

[Bob Pittman]

Traditional logo, big red plastic bat that all the kids have when they're toddlers. Or that vortex bat that hit bombs like Mark McGuire. Look, we've seen it all and it's hilarious. But people are so mad about it. And I'm thinking, well, it's just a matter of time before everybody gets them. They're already putting shipments in. Your boy Lindor's already been on that. There's other players that have them.

[Nate Thompson]

The Minnesota Twin used it over the weekend.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, they've already been approved by the mlb. Now do they have to go through some sort of reapproval per team that I don't know. But the Yankees aren't the only ones allowed to use it. And to me it makes perfect sense. I'm more surprised than anything that it took this long for them to figure something like that out. The other part of the advantage, Rich, that no one's really talking about is, all right, again, Volpe, he was basically getting jammed, not getting around quick enough to get the barrel on the ball, right? So they said, well, let's make the barrel closer to the handle.

[Kavino]

Move the meat of the bat.

[Bob Pittman]

But when you do that, it also.

[Kavino]

Appears to be lighter.

[Bob Pittman]

So think about it from that perspective, right? If you're using a 34 ounce bat, but you move the meat closer to the handle, it feels like a 32 ounce bat because the heavy part isn't at the end, wasted at the end. So it's really just smarter than anything. And here's the other side. Not everybody likes it. Not everybody's using it because it feels weird to them. It feels different. So they're not going to change it up.

[Kavino]

It's like some of those slap hitters with the axe handle, right?

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, it's not for everybody.

[Kavino]

It's a redesign.

[Bob Pittman]

And dude, it's only a story because the Yankees are doing it. If it was the White Sox, no one would give a diddly squat.

[Kavino]

Yeah, let's not forget the Yankees played at home. They have a small ballpark early on in the season. Hard to not hit one out, right? So Yankees are on fire, I'll give you that. I think it is crazy how everyone thinks the whole team's using it when it really is Volpe and Chisholm and you know, Aaron Judge on fire. The guy is not using one of these bats. But there's one thing I want to make clear. If to the rest of the league starts using it, could the Yankee fans not do this whole, oh, you're copycats because it's like if the first team in the NFL that came up with a cool face mask and everyone else uses it. No, I just don't want to hear Yankee fans call people copycats.

[Bob Pittman]

I mean, I already did on social media, but yeah, no, I think it's fair. That's also fair. I don't see any problem with this. I find it odd that people do. To me, it just makes sense. Again, I'm more surprised than anything that it took this long to happen because we see equipment innovation all the time. Why was the bat the same way for so long. We need to ask ourselves that.

[Kavino]

Like, I know it's not for hitting, but when Giancarlo Stanton got hit in the face, remember, he came back with that cool metal little flap. Didn't that turn into every player having a little bit of a flap extender on the helmet? No one said they're copying Giancarlo. It's, you know, you see a cool innovation innovator die, man.

[Bob Pittman]

And as our buddy Jim Ramsey, our unofficial consultant of the show, Jim Ramsey, hit us up from North Carolina, and he said the torpedo bats are an example of a broader relatable point. Sometimes you need to challenge. That's the way we've always done it. So that's the way it stays. That's the way we've always done it, to see what's possible and what might actually be better. And this might be better for some. For some. And for all the. Like I said, the Red Sox haters and the port noise out there saying the Yankees are cheap and cheating, it's just a matter of time before your broke ass Rafael Devers has one, too. But the reality. Give me a break.

[Kavino]

The reality is not everyone's going to want these.

[Bob Pittman]

Not everybody's going to want them. Not everybody's gonna.

[Kavino]

There's innovations with helmet designs in the NFL. There's innovations with, I'm sure, compression sleeves and socks and everything in the NBA.

[Bob Pittman]

You just might not be comfortable with it.

[Kavino]

It's not my style. If you think every guy next week's gonna have a torpedo bat, you're mistaken. Some guys are like, no, the way I like my bat distributed is this way.

[Bob Pittman]

Everybody has their own example of that. Like, there's a new piece of equipment at the office. And, you know, some people are like, yeah, I like it. And then other people like, nah, man, I like the old way better. I'm more comfortable with the old way.

[Kavino]

Like, all these people. Like, a couple years back, do you remember when everyone in corporate America decided to have a standing desk? Desk.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

And then some people would have a treadmill, and they. They'd be like, working and doing their emails while they're on their treadmill. I mean, there's always an innovation. I mean, listen, when we came here to Fox, I'm not saying we're the torpedo bats of fsr.

[Nate Thompson]

No, I'm tweeting that out right now.

[Kavino]

Kavino and Rich, the torpedo bats of Fox Sports Radio.

[Bob Pittman]

No, I remember when heavy in the middle, light on top. I remember more like the twerp pedo bats.

[Nate Thompson]

Give me the red Shot sticks at the bottom. Big heads.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

Girthian delivers. The reason I say this is because when we first got here, I remember one of the first interviews we did was Henry Winkler. Because I'm the Fonz.

[Bob Pittman]

Wowie. Zowie.

[Kavino]

Remember, it was right around the time when Winkler had that funny interaction with Mahomes on the field. And he's like, yeah, come over for dinner. And he's like, you're welcome at my dinner table anytime. You're welcome, Patrick. I remember now we wanted to interview the Fonz because we're pals with them. I remember some people around here were like, yeah, have them call up. And we said, well, why don't we do a zoom call? That way we could get video and better quality. And at first it was like, well, no one really does that around here. And I remember us being like, why not?

[Bob Pittman]

We just don't do it that way. Well, says who?

[Kavino]

Sometimes you have to question the. Well, we don't do it around here that way.

[Bob Pittman]

Sticking within the rules that are written. I mean, take it back to your earliest level of Little League. Hey, Rich. When everyone had a ceramic bat, you were curious about it, but did you go out and buy one and jump on it, or were you just comfortable with yours?

[Kavino]

Some people loved them, some people didn't.

[Bob Pittman]

That's what I mean. Like, it worked for some and some people loved it. But I guess what, I stuck with my Easton Big Barrel, you know, Dan.

[Kavino]

Byer, my black magic, Dan Beyer, who's a student of the game, not just baseball, football. I'm going to bring up, I think Colin Stars insinuated it's Belichickian. And I'll be honest, I thought the same exact thing. Because Dan, wasn't there a rule where Belichick found a way to run the clock out more? And it's like, ah, very tricky, Belichick. And they said, we're going to change that rule.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, yeah. And Vrabel actually used it against Belichick in a game as well, which ultimately led to the change. I looked at it as in from the world of golf, to be honest with you, of trying to get an advantage there. There's rules that your club needs to. To fit in, but as a guy who's not a professional, I need a bigger club face because they don't always hit it on the sweet spot. When I don't, I want it to go a little bit more straighter. So, like, a Tour pro wouldn't use my clubs because they would want their own in A certain way. It's not an exact parallel, but that's kind of how I looked at it.

[Kavino]

Dan, question. Because I don't know, I'm not the PGA expert like you are, but when we were kids and you'd watch highlights of Chichi Rodriguez doing funny handshakes and you'd be watching all the highlights on with your dad, they had regular putters. Who is the first to have the. I hold the putter a funny way and do all that? Because that I'm guessing at first, whoever. The first few golfers that did that, you don't think they were like, whoa.

[Bob Pittman]

Whoa, whoa, hold on.

[Kavino]

What are they doing with this different type of putter?

[Nate Thompson]

I can tell you Bernard Langer was one of the first to do it.

[Kavino]

You don't think there was resistance by some, like, what is this guy doing?

[Nate Thompson]

There was. Because it also looked funky as well. And then there's a whole different point to that of an anchoring because what they would do is they put the club to the chest. But just the point of it being different. I mean, there are golf putters now that you guys see where you know, there's a big white circle, you know, around it or two of them, which then lines up and they'll call them like a two ball putter. And putters never looked like that. No. 30, 40 years ago. And now they do.

[Kavino]

Covino, I know you're a big bowling guy. There's you. You see what bowlers bowl like now.

[Bob Pittman]

Oh, with two hands.

[Kavino]

They take two hands to do it.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, I remember the first guy that I remember seeing it was a guy, I think his name was like, I'm not a Monticelli and I would see him use two. Well, actually I started that when I was like five years old. Yeah, I think I invented it. But then I saw a bunch of other people doing it all the time. Just became the way. So again, my confusion is more how social media has run with this and people are mad about it when it's going to be fair for everybody. And why do you want to give so much advantage to the pitcher but not the batter? Here I. That's what I don't get. Like pitchers always doing a little something. Batters can't change how the bat is shaped. Since when I, you know. But again, we've never seen anything like this before. So people are afraid of it.

[Kavino]

You know what it comes down to people.

[Bob Pittman]

And I think more people are just mad about the fact that the Yankees were the ones that thought of it first. That's really what you're.

[Nate Thompson]

Imagine if the Dodgers came out.

[Bob Pittman]

That's it.

[Kavino]

It would have been even worse and I didn't think it could.

[Bob Pittman]

That's all people are mad about.

[Nate Thompson]

I do think it's bs The Yankees are going to wear graduation caps tomorrow night to show how smart they are with an NY on the, on the cardboard piece, tassel, the whole deal.

[Bob Pittman]

Jokes are hilarious though. Like I've been entertained so much by the torpedo bat that everybody's talking about.

[Kavino]

It really is a great story.

[Nate Thompson]

It's made for some great memes over the weekend.

[Bob Pittman]

Hilarious.

[Kavino]

What a great start.

[Bob Pittman]

The hatred that everyone's throwing at the Yankees, I do find to be as a Yankees fan, like hilarious and entertaining. I just don't understand all the lies about it.

[Kavino]

I'll tell you why it's. I'll be honest, look yourself in the mirror and I will as well. It's people that love to read headlines, I guess so, not the story. And I have another example. Like the same way at first, to be honest, if you want to know the truth, at first I also thought it was the whole Yankee team and then it's.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, because that's how it seems until.

[Kavino]

You read the article and you're gone though it's Volpe.

[Bob Pittman]

And by the way, I mean they hit nine home runs in one game, a team record. So of course that shines a huge light on the fact that they have different shape bats.

[Kavino]

I mean, remember like a week ago all that stuff about what's underneath the pyramids. And if you just read the headline, you probably still think there's stuff underneath the pyramid.

[Nate Thompson]

This is also why you need time to look underneath at the comments too because there were Yankee experts in there immediately correcting all the boneheads saying, I can't believe Judge hit those three home runs with one of these bats. And a Yankee expert like Kavino right underneath that saying, hey bonehead, he wasn't even using that bat.

[Kavino]

Yeah, it makes the idiots so dumber. You know, I'll give you the example if you want to rewind about a year ago, Danny, because I think a lot of people on this network were incorrect in saying, do you remember the female boxer who everyone immediately was like.

[Nate Thompson]

She'S trans for sure.

[Bob Pittman]

And it was like, I mean everybody thought that's the truth. Yeah. Because the, the, this, that's how the story. It's like a bad game of telephone.

[Nate Thompson]

What in.

[Bob Pittman]

What did I tell you guys?

[Nate Thompson]

We put the brakes on that on our show. Cuz I was like, let's let the Dust settle on this before we, you know, have a strong stance on it.

[Bob Pittman]

But bad game of telephone is strong. You got to be real careful with.

[Kavino]

You know, how many legitimate broadcasters were calling that female BO are trans. And listen, there were idiosyncrasies. They were. They were levels.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, I believed it.

[Kavino]

But. But we were the ones that were like, ah, pump the brakes. We didn't run with that the way everyone else did.

[Bob Pittman]

I mean, that. That was the story, though, too. So you're like, well, what am I supposed to believe if that's the story? Let's just get this clear right now. This is a legal bet. The Yankees ran it by the mlb. It's not called a torpedo bat. That just sort of organically happened. It's more shaped like a bowling pin than anything. It's not that big of a difference. It's just distributed in a different way, and it's like wasted mass at the tip of the bat. You don't want to hit the baseball at the tip of the bat, so they just brought it toward the logo. Rafael Devers is stepping into the batter's box, by the way. Let's see if he strikes out.

[Kavino]

You're expecting a strikeout.

[Bob Pittman]

And I heard the Braves and a bunch of other teams already put their orders in for these new torpedo bats, which some people are going to like. Guys like Jazz Chisholm who are open to like, yeah, man, I like it. And then other people who are just already feeling good about the bat that they use that are not going to mess with whatever's not broke.

[Kavino]

Like I said a few minutes ago, think of how many people you know gave that axe handle Batman, like, yeah, I'll take some swings. And some people like, no, not for me. And there's a few players that stuck with it. So innovate or die. I think it's cool. Like you, Dan and Danny Jean, everyone.

[Bob Pittman]

Said, I promise you, Rich, I swear, if it was another team, let's say it was your Mets, right?

[Kavino]

Yeah.

[Bob Pittman]

I would be more mad that you guys came up with the idea first and that we're. We're now playing catch up to the Mets. But I would not be mad that there was a loophole that someone figured out that was a legal loophole to make the game more exciting for more offense. I would not be mad about that if it was fair for everyone else to use.

[Kavino]

There was a company, the first. There was a first company that said, let me use social media to promote my business. Now every single company does it. Like, there's going to be one person.

[Bob Pittman]

That or how about like ChatGPT? People who want to use ChatGPT to their advantages and other people are going, well, I don't know if that's okay. It's like, well, we have the ability to do this. Why can't we?

[Nate Thompson]

This also reminded me a little bit of the champions during COVID Not fair. It's bubble. It's Mickey Mouse. Everybody had the same chance.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, that's true. Everyone has the same opportunity here. You know, unless you're a pitcher in the mlb. I don't know what everyone's so mad about.

[Kavino]

Well, listen, we have one more pitch because I want to see if Deborah strikes out his full count and then.

[Bob Pittman]

He had a tough weekend.

[Kavino]

Then we'll take your feedback on the torpedo bat. We'll talk about a new move the Mets are doing. We got some NBA, some NFL. But the 3, 2 pitch, let's see what happens here.

[Bob Pittman]

And.

[Kavino]

So no more strikeouts.

[Bob Pittman]

He has. He's a good player. He's just had a rough start.

[Kavino]

Turn it around. All right, listen, we got more Kavino and Rich next right here on Fox Sports Radio. Now, Rich, yes, life in general could be chaotic. I know what you're thinking. But if you're in charge of order fulfillment for an e commerce business, you know that's its own special kind of chaos. But with Ship station you could count on your day to day remaining calm.

[Bob Pittman]

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[Kavino]

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[Bob Pittman]

My name is Harry Houdini.

[Nate Thompson]

Harry Houdini could make elephants disappear, walk through walls and escape the Chinese water torture cell. But he was also on a mission against mediums. I have never seen one genuine medium. Join me, Tim Harford, for a cautionary tales trilogy on the world's most famous magician.

[Kavino]

It takes a flim flammer to catch a flim flammer.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Houdini wanted the world to see reason.

[Nate Thompson]

In an age of spiritualism. He went undercover to seances, exposed fakes and charlatans, and even tried to convince Washington lawmakers to ban mediums for good. A campaign that cost him friends and made him many enemies.

[Kavino]

They're going to kill me.

[Nate Thompson]

Listen to cautionary tales on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Bob Pittman]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I.

[Nate Thompson]

Have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have.

[Bob Pittman]

Plenty to say, and not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Bob Pittman]

We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has.

[Nate Thompson]

She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing, Julie.

[Bob Pittman]

I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are your ears bored?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. Are you looking for a new podcast.

[Bob Pittman]

That will make you laugh, learn and say que?

[Kavino]

Yeah.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Then tune in to locatora radio season 10 today.

[Bob Pittman]

Okay.

[A.J. Jacobs]

I'm Diosa.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm Mala, the host of Locatora Radio, a radiophonic novella, which is just a.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Very extra way of saying a podcast. We're launching this season with a mini series, totally nostalgic, a four part series about the Latinos who shaped pop culture in the early 2000s.

[Kavino]

It's Lala checking in with all things Y2K 2000s.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

My favorite memory, honestly, was us having.

[Kavino]

Our own media platforms like Mondo's and MTV Tres.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

You could turn on the tv, you.

[Kavino]

See Thalia, you see jlo, Nina, Skye, Evie Queen, all the girlies doing their.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Things, all of the beauty reflected right back at us.

[Kavino]

It was everything.

[Nate Thompson]

Tune in to locatora radio season 10.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Now that's what I call a podcast. Listen to Locatora Radio Season 10 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile.

[Bob Pittman]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Nate Thompson]

Grotesque. Oh, my God.

[Bob Pittman]

Oh, my God.

[Nate Thompson]

Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public until now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Something about Mary Poppins?

[A.J. Jacobs]

Something about Mary Poppins? Exactly.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, man, this is fun.

[A.J. Jacobs]

I'm AJ Jacobs and I am an author, a journalist, and I tend to get obsessed with stuff. And my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler. Dressing. Dressing.

[Bob Pittman]

French dressing.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Exactly.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, that's good.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears.

[Kavino]

I thought to myself, I bet I.

[Nate Thompson]

Know what this is.

[Kavino]

And now I definitely know what this is.

[Bob Pittman]

This is so weird.

[Kavino]

This is fun.

[Nate Thompson]

Let's try this one.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

That's awful and I should have seen it coming.

[Bob Pittman]

Hope you had a great weekend. Not a nasty Nestor Cortez sort of weekend, I see.

[Kavino]

I mean, you would have done better.

[Bob Pittman]

Think about pitches, three home runs.

[Kavino]

Think about that. You know how a lot of times you, you know, idiotic fans, like, I could do better. That is a circumstance where you're absolutely right. Nasty Nestor Cortez and his fun, weird wind up mustachio and all faced his old team. And that was the day The Yankees scored 20 runs. But three pitches, three home runs. Honestly, if he threw a ball, it.

[Bob Pittman]

Would have been to add insult to injury, he has, like, platinum blonde hair with, like a hint of purple in it. And he asked him, oh, man, go with the platinum look. He's like, well, I couldn't do that with the Yankees. So I figured I'd lean into it with the Brewers. And they're like, well, technically you could have. No one ever said anything about dyeing your hair with the Yankees. So. Yeah. Well, welcome to the brew crew. He got rocked, man. Right now we're Cavino and Rich live from the Tyrack.com studio. Calm the chaos with shipping software that delivers you code sports for a free [e-mail]. that's shipstation.com code sports again. I'm Kavino. That is rich, Danny G. Super producing, getting ready for last one standing a.

[Nate Thompson]

Bets kind of weekend. How about that walk off on Friday night?

[Bob Pittman]

That was why I was out at a bar when that happened, dude. And that's always the best when you're out and about. You're out and about and you know, I'm in Los Angeles and everyone's there to watch the Dodgers win. And Mookie Betts, it's a walk off. And you know what he went through? What does he weigh? 125 pounds.

[Nate Thompson]

He looks so little at.

[Bob Pittman]

And he hits a bomb like that, the place erupted. It was so fun to be out at that night. Yeah, sure.

[Kavino]

He's just not on Ozempic.

[Bob Pittman]

I don't know, maybe so. No, I'm glad he's better. Iowa Sam on the ones and twos. DB's got your updates. Spotty's on the videos. Covino and Rich, look, it's a new innovation. Stop crying about the torpedo bat. Don't buy into the lies. It's approved by the mlb. It doesn't exceed the specifications that MLB requires for a Major League Baseball bat. Again, it can't be thicker than 2.61 inches. Has to be solid wood. It can't have a cut deeper than 1 inch on the tip of the bat and it can't be over 42 inches in length. None of these bats are. Not all the Yankees are using them. Everybody's able to use them. Like I said, I don't know what the approval is like.

[Nate Thompson]

Rich.

[Bob Pittman]

If all of a sudden the Mets want to throw a specified order in, I don't know how long that takes. I don't know what the rules are with that. But already teams are putting their orders in. Players are going to give it a try. Either they're going to like it or they're not. It's like there's always an innovation that people jump on to and then some people don't like. So not everyone's going to use it and not all the Yankees are. For example, one that comes to mind. It's a stupid one, but like lane assistance on my car. Some people love it.

[Kavino]

I is off.

[Bob Pittman]

Hate it. Yeah, I feel that like, ah, I don't like it. And other people swear by it. Right.

[Kavino]

I. I had a car that had something you love and I'm like, yeah, I don't need that. That heads up display where on your windshield you see like the hologram of your navigation. I'm like, yeah, no thanks. I don't need that.

[Bob Pittman]

I love that. And I lean into it. That innovation works for me. Not all new stuff is good for everybody. That's why guys like Aaron Judge and I doubt Giancarlo Stanton, guys like that won't use the new bat, but younger players might be open to it.

[Kavino]

Look at it like anything in life. There's people that are reluctant and resistors and there's people that love to jump on a new trend just to even give it a shot. For instance, just recently, how long has the coffee company Starbucks been around? You ever heard of them? Covino, Finally. Well, like weeks ago, you're like, yeah.

[Bob Pittman]

Mobile order now, weeks is a stretch. But I would say about a month or so. I would say about a year.

[Kavino]

No, no, no.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah. I'll prove it to you. Signs of flying. But you're right, I was way late on it.

[Kavino]

He's the guy that wouldn't. Covina was the guy that would go to Starbucks and wait in the line.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, the line.

[Kavino]

Like, who does that?

[Bob Pittman]

I like waiting in line.

[Kavino]

Another thing. We live. We live. We live here at Fox Sports Radio. We live here at Fox next to an El Pollo Loco, which is a little, you know, chicken fast food place. Up until recently.

[Bob Pittman]

I don't have the app for that. I don't.

[Kavino]

So you walk in an order and wait 15 minutes.

[Bob Pittman]

I don't go there every day. It's not 15 minutes. Yeah, I don't.

[Kavino]

It's like ready in like five minutes.

[Bob Pittman]

A little kiosk. And I, Yeah, I don't go there enough to like want to flood my phone up with.

[Nate Thompson]

Save some of your hard earned dollars too. Because you can scan those apps. Yeah. Scan the codes.

[Bob Pittman]

The point is.

[Kavino]

What do you mean?

[Bob Pittman]

Same thing.

[Kavino]

You said something boomerish. You said clog up your phone with an app.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, I don't want it. I don't want it on my phone. I don't need it.

[Kavino]

I do.

[Bob Pittman]

I'm. Some of us do hate having to.

[Nate Thompson]

Sign into every freaking thing.

[Bob Pittman]

I'm not there. All the.

[Kavino]

Log into this, log into that.

[Bob Pittman]

Screw it. But if you Motorola V710, what do you got? It proves your point. Some guys like Jazz Chisholm are like, yeah, give Me, the app. I'll use the new stuff.

[Kavino]

Sam's got a Cordy keyboard.

[Bob Pittman]

Some people not open to it, but there's also debates, and those are fun, too. On. Do you get more of a sweet spot? So if you hit it outside of the sweet spot, are you getting less of an impact than you would have got before? Right. I know Mike was arguing. Wasn't Mike and DB Arguing about that off the air?

[Kavino]

Oh, Mike, who runs this place?

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, because I heard. I've heard several people talk about it because you're shortening or you're compacting the sweet spot closer to the handle. Now, if you hit it toward the end of the bat, maybe you would have got a little juice out of it before, where you're actually maybe gonna get less juice out of it.

[Kavino]

Now.

[Bob Pittman]

I'm. I'm sort of getting that understanding too. Like, it's not all bombs that you're gonna get out of it. You really just have to hit that sweet spot.

[Kavino]

Think about it. Where, if you're taking, I swear, meat, the meat of the bat, if you're taking the meat from somewhere so meaty, and you're putting it that you're losing meat somewhere, Right? Like, it's like, you know, squeezing the toothpaste tube.

[Bob Pittman]

That's why you take the meat out.

[Kavino]

Of somewhere and it's, you know, spot. Made a great analogy there. Picture a tube of toothpaste. The Yankees are just squeezing the toothpaste a little more towards the middle of the tube.

[Bob Pittman]

The middle bottom.

[Kavino]

Yeah, middle bottom.

[Bob Pittman]

Middle bottom.

[Kavino]

Where, you know, so if I was.

[Nate Thompson]

The guy who invented this, though, was his name. They call him Lenny.

[Bob Pittman]

Lenny Aaron Leinert.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. I would want it named after me, especially with other teams copying it. I'd want it to be Lenny Leiner.

[Bob Pittman]

I was pushing for the Volpedo bat because they did it for Anthony Volpe. They did it kind of.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. But Volpe didn't invent the actual bat. If I'm Lenny, I'm like, I want my name on it.

[Bob Pittman]

And if I'm not mistaken, this guy was so innovative and so instrumental in this change again. The Yankees hired him just for that. I think the Marlins picked him up as a coach.

[Nate Thompson]

Got a batting coach job, which is wild.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah. Because there's so much analytics involved in how to improve hitting and pitching.

[Nate Thompson]

Getting better field coordinator with the Marlins.

[Kavino]

I've had enough hitting. I've said this last week. But you know how your algorithm is really a reflection of who you are now? You look up one coaching hitting video Kavino you know how many products there are. So I'm not shocked by this. There are when I. I'm not exaggerating hundreds of different products like here's a bat. But it's not. It's a rope. And if you can't hit off the tee with this rope, your. Your hand speeds not. They have something for everything. So I'm not shocked. And I feel like you're only going to see more and more innovation with gloves, cleats, bats. It's. It's science mixed with athleticism more than ever.

[Bob Pittman]

If it stays within the rules, then what are you complaining about? That's really problem. Yeah. What's your problem? Relax. So yeah, my algorithm Rich. All weekend was unfortunately that terrible earthquake in Thailand. 77 on the Andy Richter scale.

[Nate Thompson]

Horrible.

[Kavino]

You see those people in the pool.

[Bob Pittman]

On the roofedo bats? Yeah.

[Kavino]

Oh my God.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah. That was frightening.

[Kavino]

All right. Well, hopefully you had a great weekend. A torpedo bat type of weekend. Let's go to damn buyer for an update. Let's see what else is going on in the world of sports. What's up, buddy?

[Nate Thompson]

Hey, guys. Busy day in baseball. You had your eyes on that Orioles Red Sox game. Boston tried to mount a bit of a comeback. They were unsuccessful. Orioles end up getting an 85 win in that contest right now in Philadelphia. Nick Castellanos has just hit a home run. Phillies extending their lead over the Rockies 6 to 1. Kyle Schwaber is also homered in this game for Philadelphia. The White Sox were nine nothing winners against the Twins earlier today while in Milwaukee.

[Bob Pittman]

And the pitch and a swing and a blast down the left field line.

[Kavino]

That's way back there.

[Bob Pittman]

It's fair. It's gone. It's fair and it's gone. A home run. Salvador Perez is first of the year.

[Nate Thompson]

It's five nothing all Royals today. They beat the brewers by a score of 11 to 1 on the Royals radio network. College football news. Former Colts and Panthers head coach Frank Reich will serve as Stanford's interim head coach for the 2025 season. Free agent quarterback Aaron Rodgers did have a throwing session with Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf. Brown zone or Jimmy Haslam took full responsibility over the signing of quarterback to Sean Watson and the trade that brought him to Cleveland. Calling it, quote, a big swing and a miss. End quote. Rutgers freshman Dylan Harper entering the NBA draf tonight. Women's college basketball regional finals. Number one Texas against number two TCU in the regional three final in Birmingham. Regional four final in Spokane is USC against UConn and Suns forward Kevin Durant out at least a week with a left ankle sprain at the crown in Las Vegas. Men's college basketball Butler with an 8684 win over Utah. Guys, back to you.

[Kavino]

Oh, thank you, D.B.

[Bob Pittman]

Thank you, D.B.

[Kavino]

Now, I know it's only, you know, three to five games into the baseball season.

[Bob Pittman]

It's been fun already, though.

[Kavino]

But how do you feel about getting off to a smoking hot start or really struggling? Because I'm looking at the standings now, and I know there's 162 games, and you could argue, hey, my Mets started 0 and 5 last year. Remember how depressing they were? 05. Because right now, two teams that were postseason teams last year, you just mentioned the Brew Crew, brewers and The Braves are both 0 4. And the Dodgers, 5. 0.

[Bob Pittman]

Braves got that segment of bats coming in.

[Kavino]

But I'm saying, like, when you get off to that rough start, like, The Mets are 1 and 2, I'm not really bummed they win tonight. All of a sudden, you're 2 and 2. But when you're. When you start, oh, and 4. 05, then I feel like it's such as you. You got to win five in a row to get back to.500. I feel like you're chasing the first month or so.

[Nate Thompson]

I also think there's a completely different feeling with the Brewers. Now, they run into a buzzsaw like the Yankees. But Milwaukee, last year, remember, they were coming off of a season where Corbin Burns went to Baltimore.

[Kavino]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

Their manager went to the Cubs. They had this chip on their shoulder, and I think they wrote it all the way through the season. And now maybe some of that catches up with you. Maybe you weren't as good of a team as you were last year, and now this year, you're paying the tax on that.

[Kavino]

Yeah. And as a Mets fan, I do not mind the Braves being 0 and 4. But I just wonder, like you said, you go 5 and 1 over your next six games and you're back to.500. Like, no one likes chasing that start.

[Bob Pittman]

Doesn't matter that much because it's a long season. But you don't want to start from behind, right? I'd rather start hot than like the Braves have started.

[Kavino]

Yeah. Well, listen, I have a quick dumb sports hypothetical I think you guys will get down with. We'll do that next. We're going to play midweek, Major. We're going to talk about something. Something. Did I say midweek, Major? I meant last one standing, thinking it's Wednesday already. Last one standing.

[Bob Pittman]

Better get to work.

[Kavino]

Then last one standing. A dumb hypothetical we'll toggle NFL all coming up right here.

[Bob Pittman]

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[Kavino]

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[Bob Pittman]

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[Kavino]

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[Bob Pittman]

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[Kavino]

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[Bob Pittman]

My name is Harry Houdini.

[Nate Thompson]

Harry Houdini could make elephants disappear, walk through walls and escape the Chinese water torture cell. But he was also on mission against mediums. I have never seen one genuine medium. Join me, Tim Harford, for a cautionary tales trilogy on the world's most famous magician.

[Kavino]

It takes a flim flammer to catch a flim flammer.

[Nate Thompson]

Houdini wanted the world to see reason in an age of spiritualism. He went undercover to seances, exposed fakes and charlatans, and even tried to convince Washington lawmakers to ban mediums for good. A campaign that cost him friends and made him many enemies.

[Kavino]

They're going to kill me.

[Nate Thompson]

Listen to cautionary tales on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Are your ears bored?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. Are you looking for a new podcast.

[Bob Pittman]

That will make you laugh, learn and say yeah?

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Then tune in to locatora radio season 10 today.

[Bob Pittman]

Okay.

[A.J. Jacobs]

I'm Diosa.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm Mala, the host of Locatora Radio.

[A.J. Jacobs]

A radiophonic novella, which is just a.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Very extra way of saying a podcast. We're launching this season with a mini series, totally nostalgic, a four part series about the Latinos who shaped pop culture in the early 2000s.

[Kavino]

It's Lala checking in with all things Y2K 2000s.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

My favorite memory, honestly, was us having.

[Kavino]

Our own media platforms like Mundos and MTV Tres you could turn on the TV. You see Thalia, you see JLo, Nina Sky, Evie Queen. All the girlies doing their things.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

All of the beauty reflected right back at us.

[Kavino]

It was everything.

[Nate Thompson]

Tune in to locatora radio season 10.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Now that's what I call a podcast. Listen to locatora radio season 10 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile.

[Bob Pittman]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Nate Thompson]

Grotesque. Oh, my God.

[Bob Pittman]

Oh, my God.

[Nate Thompson]

Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted. You feeling this, too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Bob Pittman]

I wore nine NHL sweaters, and I.

[Nate Thompson]

Have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have.

[Bob Pittman]

Plenty to say, and not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate, and JSB is the name of the podcast, and it's going to be. Well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Bob Pittman]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has.

[Nate Thompson]

She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay, we'll lean into Nate playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing, Julie.

[Bob Pittman]

I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Something about Mary Poppins?

[A.J. Jacobs]

Something about Mary Poppins? Exactly.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, man, this is fun.

[A.J. Jacobs]

I'm A.J. jacobs, and I am an author and a journalist, and I tend to get obsessed with stuff. And my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler. Dressing. Dressing.

[Nate Thompson]

French dressing.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Exactly.

[Nate Thompson]

That's good.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears.

[Kavino]

I thought to myself, I bet I.

[Nate Thompson]

Know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is. This is so weird.

[Kavino]

This is fun.

[Bob Pittman]

Let's try this one.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

That's awful. And I should have seen it coming.

[Bob Pittman]

It's tricky to hit a round ball with a round bat. A round ball going 108 miles per hour nowadays.

[Kavino]

I back you up for one thing. Idiots out there. And I'll tell you why.

[Bob Pittman]

Well, people keep comparing it to steroids. It's like, well, no, steroids were illegal. This bat, not illegal.

[Kavino]

I just saw Jazz Chisholm. Jazz, Jazz Chisholm puts on social media a complete explanation of everything we said.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

And I looked at the comments and they were still like, translation, you suck and you need a cheating bat. Like, that's why.

[Bob Pittman]

I can't believe even Dave Portnoy leans into that.

[Kavino]

He's a smart guy. Come on.

[Bob Pittman]

What are we doing?

[Nate Thompson]

Dave?

[Bob Pittman]

Don't be serious. You're just stirring the pot. Or like you're like rallying the boneheads. I don't understand how you could even compare this to steroids or consider this cheating. When they just change the shape of the bat up a little bit.

[Kavino]

It's not cheating.

[Bob Pittman]

But it is such a huge story and I guess because it just seems so obvious, but no one ever thought to do it. Props to the Yankees. It's going to change the game. And if it's a little too much like we've seen changes in the past, like the shift. Right. Well, why didn't they ever do that before? I don't know. And you know, it didn't work, so they changed it back where we're not allowed. So hey, it's going to be an exciting season regardless.

[Kavino]

Until you can't do something. It's not cheating if you do it right.

[Bob Pittman]

And everyone's an Expert in Rule 3.02. Now, according to the MLB, the rule book. Now I want to wish everybody a happy Julio Cesar Chavez day.

[Kavino]

Not that. That's not it.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah. 107 wins, only six losses. Boxing legend.

[Kavino]

Why do our kids.

[Bob Pittman]

Two draws. Julio Cesar Chavez.

[Kavino]

No, but why do our kids really have off from school today?

[Bob Pittman]

Cesar Chavez Day. Just Cesar. Of course. I'm joking. I don't say Sarchavez Day, the I guess activist, but I'm shouting out the boxer. I know him because he's legend to me.

[Kavino]

I also wanted to give one baseball note over the weekend. I guess I still root for him. Didn't do anything wrong to me personally. Jacob deGrom. Nice to see him. Have a really solid first start. Five innings, six strikeouts. Looked like the Cy Young guy from years past. So if deGrom's healthy, the Rangers could make some noise with some good pitching in the ALS. So we shall see.

[Bob Pittman]

So we're live from the Tyrack.com studio. Remember to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. If you missed over promised last week, episode 85 was a great one. That's our bonus pod. Search Fox sports radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our show. Other shows here on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to subscribe and never miss our very best FOX Sports radio videos on YouTube. Next hour. Rich, over, over. Promise we're going to play last one standing. So if you want a prize, be sure to tune in.

[Kavino]

I know you're not a quitter.

[Bob Pittman]

I'm not.

[Kavino]

I know.

[Bob Pittman]

What are we talking about?

[Kavino]

I know that you're the type of guy that will watch a Yankees game if they're losing big time.

[Bob Pittman]

Well, that's because it's like eating pizza. Even when it's bad, it's still pretty good.

[Kavino]

The Mets are losing.

[Bob Pittman]

If a grand slam, what's better than the Mets?

[Kavino]

I don't know. Putting something on. My kids will watch so they're not bored. I don't know.

[Bob Pittman]

For me, it's just good background. Even if they're losing, I don't want.

[Kavino]

To say if the Mets are. Lou, if a grand slam can't tie the game and it's after the sixth inning, I'm like, eh, see, tomorrow there's 162 games last night.

[Bob Pittman]

This is weak. I don't even know how. I don't know how you lean into that, especially on Fox Sports Radio.

[Kavino]

Am I going to lie to everyone?

[Bob Pittman]

No, but I think. I think you should. I think you should just be better than that. I don't think you need to lie.

[Kavino]

Well, better than that is actually saying, all right, the game's over. There's 162 games. I'm going to go watch something else.

[Bob Pittman]

Beauty of Sports is watching them come back and fight back.

[Kavino]

You're the guy that would watch your team down by 25 points in the fourth quarter.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah. Because you're in it. You're an idiot through thick and thin. Rich is only in it through thin.

[Kavino]

I'm Only in it through torpedo sickness.

[Bob Pittman]

And health, which is like. Nope, just health. See you later. It's a character flaw. I'm out. I understand. If your kid's tugging on your leg because he's dying to watch Blippi. I understand that. But he can watch on his tablet.

[Kavino]

Character flaw. Because if. All right, if you're a Cubs fan and they're.

[Bob Pittman]

You got nothing else going on.

[Kavino]

Who has nothing else going on? Losers.

[Bob Pittman]

A rerun of Friends is better than the actual live game that's on right now.

[Kavino]

Let's take a walk around the block. Hey, kids.

[Bob Pittman]

Want to watch a movie together?

[Kavino]

Family movie night.

[Bob Pittman]

Okay, my point is which episode of Friends?

[Kavino]

Yeah, I mean, Rich is acting like.

[Bob Pittman]

He'S not watching every piece of trash on Netflix is the one where they.

[Nate Thompson]

Compete to swap apartments. That's a really fun.

[Bob Pittman]

He's acting like he's doing a construct. Something constructive.

[Kavino]

Well, my point is, if you're a Cubs fan and they're losing 124 in the seventh inning, Kavino's the guy that's like, why would he not still watch? I don't know. Because that's over.

[Bob Pittman]

That's what most people that you're talking to.

[Kavino]

Would you stay at that game in person?

[Bob Pittman]

Yes, because I paid for that, and I'm a fan.

[Kavino]

God, you're a maniac.

[Bob Pittman]

I think 80% of the people listening would agree with me and not you. I'm pretty confident.

[Kavino]

No way Jose can say.

[Bob Pittman]

You mean the people tuned in to listen to us banter about sports? When their team's losing, they tune out.

[Kavino]

Doesn't mean they're dumb sports fans.

[Bob Pittman]

So you know what. How. How confident and certain you are, there is your character flaw. I think you're gross in what you're saying and how you're saying it.

[Kavino]

I think you are a jackass. All right, so let me explain my hypothetical.

[Bob Pittman]

Hey, Danny, when your team's losing, you still watch?

[Nate Thompson]

I do.

[Bob Pittman]

Hey, Sam, if your team's losing, you still keep it on? It depends on how much they're losing by.

[Kavino]

See?

[Bob Pittman]

So how was it? What's the. What about comebacks? You don't believe in them?

[Nate Thompson]

Iowa is down 35 to 7 to Ohio State. I'm turning it off.

[Bob Pittman]

Yeah, if it's, like, midway through the.

[Nate Thompson]

Third quarter, why would I want to. It's snm.

[Kavino]

No one wants to watch it.

[Bob Pittman]

But you don't just keep it on. You could go about your day and make yourself a sandwich. I mean, while the game's on. I kind of side with Rich here.

[Nate Thompson]

Like if they're bad, if your team roared back and made a historic comeback.

[Bob Pittman]

It'S not going to happen, though. I'm realistic. I know that has happened.

[Nate Thompson]

All of our teams have made big. Not Iowa football's offense.

[Kavino]

If they're making a big comeback, guess what? I'm going to get text messages from my friends like, you seeing this. And that just means turn on the TV back on because maybe they're like, starting.

[Bob Pittman]

You're the guy watching Modern Family again.

[Kavino]

Yeah, I'd rather watch better than the.

[Bob Pittman]

Live game that's out.

[Kavino]

I'd rather watch that.

[Nate Thompson]

But, Rich, you'll be halfway around the block walking with your kids, so you're gonna have to run back to your house.

[Kavino]

I'm not one dimensional like some ass clowns in this room.

[Bob Pittman]

Not to mention you can't have the game on, you know, on headphones or something and take a walk like he's acting like you have to choose.

[Kavino]

But you think I should be. I should be walking around the block with my kids with a headphone in to make sure the Mets, who are down 9:1, don't make a comeback.

[Bob Pittman]

Giving every spare moment of your life to your. Your child. Give me a break. They're very busy coloring.

[Kavino]

I have a great hypothetical that clearly you're not going to have anything to do with next. Hang tight.

[Nate Thompson]

This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser podcast. Have you guys seen this new commercial.

[Kavino]

From Stand up to All Hate? It's basically Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady going back and forth with reasons that they hate each other. But then when you really listen to them, the reasons for the hate are just so stupid.

[Nate Thompson]

I don't know.

[Kavino]

This. This commercial really got me. It's a strong reminder that hate in our country continues to be out of control. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up. Call it out.

[Nate Thompson]

Your voice is a powerful tool in this fight.

[Kavino]

You can learn more by following upwithhate dressing.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Dressing.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, French dressing.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Exactly.

[Nate Thompson]

That's good.

[A.J. Jacobs]

I'm A.J. jacobs, and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler.

[Nate Thompson]

Something about Mary Poppins?

[A.J. Jacobs]

Exactly.

[Nate Thompson]

This is fun.

[A.J. Jacobs]

You can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together.

[Bob Pittman]

Here we go.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Bob Pittman]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

You feeling? This too is a horror anthology podcast. It brings different creators to tell 10 vile, grotesque, oh my God horrific stories on what scares them the most. You feel in this too. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[A.J. Jacobs]

Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with that. Here's some advice From Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase, on standing out from the leadership crowd.

[Bob Pittman]

Develop your EQ A lot of people have plenty of brains, but EQ is do you trust me? Do I communicate well? Develop the team, develop the people. Create a system of trust. And it works over time.

[A.J. Jacobs]

I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this is Working Leaders Share Strategies for Success. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.