Hour 1 - NFL's Wrongful Double Demerit

Summary

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Episode: Hour 1 - NFL's Wrongful Double Demerit
Release Date: January 24, 2025

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Introduction to the Joe Mixon Case

[08:52] Matt Levine:
The episode delves into the controversial situation surrounding NFL running back Joe Mixon, who has recently been fined not once, but twice, by the league for statements deemed inappropriate regarding referees. Matt Levine sets the stage by highlighting the nuances of Mixon's actions and the repercussions imposed by the NFL.

Details of the Fines

[09:10] Justin Pennik:
Joe Mixon was initially fined $25,000 for a comment he made post-game: “When you play the Chiefs, don't leave it in the hands of the refs.” This statement was interpreted by the NFL as a criticism of the officiating team, leading to the first fine.

[09:25] Rich Davis:
During the discussion, it's revealed that Mixon's statement was not directly derogatory but was perceived as borderline critical. “I don't think that's derogatory to the refs. I think that's like, borderline, you know what he's saying,” Matt explains, suggesting that Mixon's intent might have been to encourage better play rather than to disrespect the officials.

The Double Fine Situation

[10:15] Covino:
The plot thickens when a fan, TJ Hushman Zada Championship, commented on Mixon's original statement, claiming bias in favor of the Chiefs. Mixon's agent approached the NFL, arguing that Mixon did not make the controversial remark himself but was penalized based on a teammate's comment. Despite this appeal, the NFL upheld the fine and imposed an additional $25,000, effectively doubling the punishment.

[11:00] Matt Levine:
He summarizes the situation: “Instead of saying, all right, we'll look into it, or maybe rescind the fine, they're saying, no, we're doubling down.” This indicates a stringent stance by the NFL against any perceived criticism of referees.

Analysis of the NFL's Response

[12:03] Matt Levine:
Matt critiques the NFL's actions by comparing them to familial discipline: “It sounds like when you're reprimanding your kids, like, if you talk back to me one more time, you're grounded.” He points out the lack of accountability and fairness in the NFL's approach, especially when a player is fined for statements he claims he did not make.

[13:08] Covino:
Covino draws a parallel to real-life situations where individuals are punished without proper justification: “Imagine if we were all judged by performance. People be getting fined all the time in real life.”

Impact on Players and Financial Implications

[13:21] Matt Levine:
He discusses the financial strain such fines can impose on players: “If you're a player and you make a ton of money, I'd imagine these fines still bother you because just on principle.” Although $25,000 might seem insignificant compared to an NFL salary, repetitive fines can accumulate, especially for players transitioning out of the league.

[14:04] Covino:
Covino empathizes with Mixon’s situation, emphasizing that former players often face financial uncertainty post-retirement: “That $25,000 would come in pretty handy down the line.”

Broader Implications and Comparisons

[16:19] Matt Levine:
He expands the discussion to general experiences of wrongful accusations: “Joe Mixon represents every man or woman who has been accused of something at work or in their personal life, didn't do it.” This illustrates the broader impact of such punitive actions beyond the sports realm.

[18:20] Rich Davis:
He adds perspective on personal relationships and accusations, making the discussion relatable: “They feel persecuted and so they want to get their money's worth.”

Listener Engagement and Personal Anecdotes

[20:40] Rich Davis:
Covino and Rich share personal stories about being falsely accused, drawing parallels to Mixon's situation to highlight the emotional toll and the importance of defending one's character.

[23:39] Matt Levine:
Matt shares a relatable anecdote about being falsely accused in a social setting, emphasizing the universal nature of such experiences: “I remember dating a girl, they would constantly accuse me of being up to no good.”

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

[25:13] Matt Levine:
Matt concludes by reinforcing support for Joe Mixon while critiquing the NFL’s disciplinary measures: “Well, hey, Joe Mixon, we got your back, buddy.”

[34:03] Covino:
Covino emphasizes the unfairness of the situation and the need for the NFL to reconsider its stance on player criticisms: “If you're innocent, I think you speak out.”

[46:35] Covino:
In a lighter segment, the hosts transition to discussing old school topics, maintaining engagement and ensuring the podcast remains dynamic and multifaceted.

Notable Quotes

• Matt Levine [08:52]: “Joe Mixon represents every man or woman who has been accused of something... didn’t do it.”
• Rich Davis [09:25]: “I don't understand what he said that was so bad.”
• Covino [10:15]: “It shows how sensitive and soft they are.”
• Matt Levine [13:27]: “All these guys come from humble beginnings for the most part.”
• Covino [16:19]: “I still, till this day, I'm standing my ground.”
• Matt Levine [22:32]: “True crime the way... podcasts are the number one category.”
• Covino [25:00]: “That's weak, man. And like Iowa Sam said, it might not seem like a lot now, but it might in the future.”

Final Remarks

The episode offers a critical examination of the NFL's disciplinary actions against Joe Mixon, questioning the fairness and consistency of the league's policies. By intertwining analysis with personal anecdotes, the hosts provide a comprehensive overview of the issue, highlighting both its immediate impact on Mixon and its broader implications for athletes and individuals facing wrongful accusations.

Listeners gain insight into the complexities of sports governance, the delicate balance between maintaining authority and ensuring fair treatment of players, and the personal toll such situations can take on those involved.

Transcript

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[Matt Levine]

Now, I'm not the only guy that did this in college, but we all tried to plan to have like nothing on Friday, right? You weren't really able to do it often freshman year. But after freshman year, I listen, I'm not dating myself. I'm, I'm in my 40s. I'm not an old guy. But we were not registering for classes online yet. So I remember waiting. You would wait in a line to register for your classes and you would try so hard to make your Fridays have nothing so that you could start drinking and partying Thursday night and just chill.

[Covino]

Thursday night was the big bar night. Friday night was the, yeah, hopefully you have a nice three day weekend ahead of you sort of day.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah. So let's do a college style, meaning let's party it up today and half ass tomorrow.

[Covino]

You want to do keg stands tonight, bro?

[Matt Levine]

Nah, you know what? I was never a keg stand guy. I, that was one of those things I avoided. Is there anything that you know you're not good at so you sort of avoid?

[Covino]

I mean, that's sort of how I.

[Matt Levine]

Roll in life if you're not good at something. I'll give you two circumstances in which I avoid things because I know I'm not good at it. Number one, in college, I partied with the best of them. But I was never good at like chugging beer or doing a keg stand. So anytime that those shenanigans broke out, that's when I sort of did the Homer Simpson dip into the bush. Like, oh, you guys do that?

[Covino]

Well, that's why I don't like drinking games or card games for that matter. I just lose focus. I'm not interested. I'M not passionate about it. I'll do.

[Matt Levine]

I'll do that.

[Covino]

Dip out.

[Matt Levine]

I'll do that stuff. But I'm not. That was never good at that. Drinking upside down is not normal. It's not natural. So when you do a keg stand, you have to, like, train yourself to do that. Gravity wants to take hold. What about an Iowa? You would butt chug, though. Is that different? I'm sorry, what now?

[Covino]

Yeah, butt chugging is a whole different.

[Matt Levine]

We're not familiar with that neither. Okay, sorry. And secondly, I don't got the moves, like I'm, you know, a Jabberwocky or Travolta or something. If there's a dance circle at a party or wedding, I make it impossible for someone to, like, push me into the circle. Like, come on, Rich. And I'm, like, breaking it down. I'm not a dancer. Rhythm's a dancer, not Rich Davis.

[Covino]

It's generational. I feel like dancing skipped our generation, right? Our parents generation, they love to dance and disco dance and they thought they were Travolta.

[Matt Levine]

My dad was going to Studio 54.

[Covino]

We grew up hip hop days. You held your drink up and bobbed your head a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

Gangsters don't dance. We boogie.

[Covino]

Exactly like you saw the Running Man. Maybe you tried it in your mirror and then you're like, yeah, I'm not doing that, Cabbage patch. No, thanks. Our generation is sort of skipped, right? And now kids today can't stop. It's like they have dance Tourette's. They got dance fever.

[Matt Levine]

It's crazy when you think about how you're right. Your parents put on their platform shoes and they were getting all groovy in the disco, disco, disco. After that, our generation is like, yeah, if I could dance, I could dance. Maybe I'll just, like you said, bob your head. Now kids, like, watch me dance on TikTok. Watch me dance on Instagram.

[Covino]

Like, can't stop, won't stop. Everybody got little dancing feats.

[Matt Levine]

Can you imagine you and your boys making, like, a dance video?

[Covino]

No. Choreography was not part of my childhood. Wiffle ball was.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So anyway, to answer your question, Rich Thursday.

[Matt Levine]

Let's do it.

[Covino]

I try to stay away from things that I'm not that good at. Some of you are saying, then why are you doing a radio show? Hey, I'm doing my best, but thanks again for being part of it. We include you, that's why. 87799 on Fox @COVINO and Rich at Steve Covino at Rich Davis. Let the wild rumpus Start, man. We got lots to get to today.

[Matt Levine]

Now, let's get right into the NFL. There's a Joe Mixon story. And I find the details of this funny because I think we've all been there where you get accused of saying something or doing something, and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, slow down. That's not what I said. I wasn't even the guy.

[Justin Pennik]

Whoa.

[Matt Levine]

And that's sort of the story with running back Joe Mixon. Danny G. I know you are familiar with the timeline of events for mixing. Want to take us to the beginning of this? He gets fined.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. So he gets slapped with that $25,000 fine. And, Rich, you. You were arguing about that fine on yesterday's show because you said, I don't understand what he said that was so bad. Basically, he had said, after the game, when you play the Chiefs, don't leave it in the hands of the refs.

[Matt Levine]

I don't think that's derogatory to the refs. I think that's like, borderline, like, you know what he's saying. But, hey, listen, we got to play better. You should never leave it in the hands of someone else.

[Covino]

But that's a sentiment that's shared in a lot of sports, especially. I was going to say the fight game. How many times do boxers say, look, you know, I had my chance to knock him out. You just can't leave it up to the judges sometimes because people are going to see things that not everybody sees, that you can't leave it in the judge's hands. That's not. It's not necessarily derogatory. There's some accountability there, like, as well. You can see both sides.

[Rich Davis]

Exactly. And Mixon shared those thoughts on social media. Well, our very own TJ Hushman Zada Championship, he commented underneath saying, why even play the game if the 50, 50 balls are all going to go to the Chiefs? This is bias. It's ridiculous. And the agent for mixing got a letter from the NFL showing that quote as the reason Mixon was getting a $25,000 fine. So the agent and Mixon are like, he didn't even say this. A former player said this in the comments. So the agent goes to the NFL and. And pleads his case. And they said, okay, well, we didn't like what Mixon said either. We're gonna give him a $25,000 fine for that. So he's now been fined twice.

[Matt Levine]

Double doozy.

[Covino]

So instead of saying, all right, we'll look into it, or maybe rescind the fine, they're saying, no, we're doubling down. In fact, doubling the fine. Yeah, we're gon. For bothering us.

[Rich Davis]

In fact, Mixing just tweeted recently saying. So let me get this straight. NFL finds me 25k for something I didn't even say. I call them out for it, and they respond by finding me again for something that's not even a violation without even rescinding the first one. Where's the accountability? Just respect the players. Cold.

[Matt Levine]

It sounds like when you're reprimanding your kids, like, if you talk back to me one more time, you're grounded. But mom. Push your luck.

[Covino]

But mom.

[Matt Levine]

All right, now you're. Now you're, you know, grounded three days. But mom. Four days.

[Covino]

Right. It feels like it has no say here. Just like Mixing has no say when it comes to the refs and the league.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. So the. The agent is now appealing to fines, but he's saying.

[Covino]

He didn't say that.

[Rich Davis]

He didn't say what TJ Husmanzada said, obviously.

[Matt Levine]

Wow. But also, his comments are subtle, like, it's. He's alluding to it. He's not actually directly criticizing ref. So how can you get punished for that twice? You should be allowed to have a little subtle commentary that maybe invokes something. You know, it's like, you ever hang out with a shady friend? Don't you dare look at me. You ever hang out with a shady friend and he's up to no good? And, like, your girlfriend or wife, like, yells at you and you're like, what? He's the. You know, he's the guy up to no good? He's just my friend. I'm not accountable for, you know, what he does. Don't make sense. Being held accountable for someone else's social media message. Guilty by association.

[Covino]

Yeah, that's. That's really it. And the fact that you can get fined so often in this league when you question anything and, you know, we always like to tie things into real life. That's one time. I appreciate real life because maybe you don't get paid as much as you want in real life, but you're not getting fined for your actions. Not in that way. Imagine if we were all judged by performance. People be getting fined all the time in real life.

[Matt Levine]

Yikes.

[Covino]

That happens, you know, when you step out in sports. So Joe Mixon, fined twice for something he never said, and then fined again, doubling down.

[Matt Levine]

If you're a player and you make a ton of money, I'd imagine these fines still bother you because just on principle.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Matt Levine]

All these guys come from humble beginnings for the most part. Very few players, you know, are Ricky Schroeder coming from a house of silver spoons.

[Covino]

I mean, 25,000, I know we all know is not a lot for them, but it still sounds like a lot.

[Matt Levine]

But is it, is it a lot for them, though, when they've retired and 10 years after their playing career ends, they're like, I wish I had that 25,000 back.

[Covino]

Ask Cam Newton most recently right now, he got a lot of criticism because he was saying one of the hardest adjustments he has to make as a dad. How many kids do you have? 18.

[Matt Levine]

He has eight kids. They're not all his. Some of her, like his stepchildren or ones he's brought into his family. And yeah, those NFL checks, look, those.

[Covino]

Checks don't come in anymore. And you don't feel like Superman anymore when you can't provide that same lifestyle that you used to give them without any thought. And it makes sense. You know, I'm not feeling sorry for the guy, but I do understand what he's saying. And yeah, that $25,000 would come in pretty handy down the line when you.

[Matt Levine]

Think about a guy that was once making tens of millions of dollars. I was Sam Dreit, fast forward, and you're picking your life up as a, you know, part time broadcaster and your checks are in the thousands, not in the tens and hundreds of thousands.

[Covino]

Yeah, guys like Cam used to spend freely without thinking anything. Kids want something, they want to go somewhere, they want to do something, they want to buy something. Without even a thought they were able to do it.

[Matt Levine]

Now there's a big difference between you.

[Covino]

Can'T do it the same way.

[Matt Levine]

There's a big difference between making tens of millions of dollars and a couple hundred thousand dollars. If you're like a young broadcaster, former athlete, like, you know, just so you guys know, just because someone played in the NFL, yeah, they're going to get a little more money. But it's not like every broadcaster on Fox, espn, NBC. It's not like all of a sudden they're like, oh, because you played in the NFL, here's millions that's reserved for Romo Brady, the guys that have done it, the radio podcaster guys, it's, they're still trying to earn those big bucks. It's not like you just transition from, you know, I'm gonna, I'm a player in the NFL to, oh, I'm a broadcaster and I'm making millions. That's not how it works.

[Covino]

I have a question for you, Rich, because you're sort of a shady character, as you admitted a few seconds ago.

[Matt Levine]

Not. But go on.

[Covino]

Is there anything you want to admit? And we won't find you. We won't find you here on the show. In fact, if anyone wants to chime in at 87799 on Fox and clear your name and reputation, we're not going to throw your fine at you. Something that you were accused of doing that you really didn't do. Saying something that you really didn't say. I'm sure your wife or girlfriend always throws something in your face and you're like, that's not even what happened. Right? Like, I'm sure there's something out there that you're the Joe Mixon story. I'll be honest and honestly, you deserve some justice. But your wife never forgave you. Your job never forgave you. And it's just not fair. And you're like, I still, till this day, I'm standing my ground.

[Matt Levine]

I. This is the worst rationale. And I want everyone to know I've grown up since I've known Cavino for 20 years. From our 20s, early 20s to now, early 40s, I've known Covino for the better part of this century. Yeah, I'm a good husband now, but when I was a single guy dating, I. I remember dating a girl, they would constantly accuse me of being up to no good, to the point where I was like, if you're going to accuse, you're out with Covino with whores. But like, when I would get that treatment, like, babe, I was just at the bar with Covino, you know, watching the game, chilling out. Are there girls there? I'm like, of course there's women here. It's a bar.

[Covino]

You accuse me you need to do, but the number one thing you need to do in those situations is you need to call your girlfriend or wife. And then you're like, yeah, it's just me and the guys. Say hi, guys.

[Matt Levine]

Don't give me that bs. Every dumb guy does it.

[Covino]

Then it puts them at ease and they don't bother you.

[Matt Levine]

Oh, we're just having. We're having some quesadillas. Say hi to say hi. Hi.

[Rich Davis]

Or one of the voices they hear in the crowd is a female voice.

[Covino]

Who is that? Yeah, that. That could work against you. You got to make sure. Yeah, you got to make sure the. Whatever girl's there. She doesn't say, hi.

[Matt Levine]

Did I hear a girl? Yeah, babe, it's a bar. You're there's women here. I, I, I hate to tell you, it's not, we're not at an all boys Catholic high school, Sam.

[Covino]

He just has a really high voice.

[Matt Levine]

Hi, guys.

[Jason Demers]

Hi.

[Covino]

Hey.

[Matt Levine]

So, yeah, I'm really close. My best pal, Sam. Oh, you had Samuel? No, Samantha. Anyway, I have been accused of things to the point where I'm like, well, if you're gonna accuse me, then I might as well.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, that's the loophole.

[Matt Levine]

And I'm saying that's terrible ideology, but that happens to many people who are young and dumb in high school and college relationships where it's like, yo, if you're gonna be up my ass accusing me of everything, oh, you're doing this, you're doing that. Don't be shocked that that person eventually does do it because, you know, you're almost like leading them there. I'm not saying don't take accountability. I'm just saying it makes a little sense for a young dumb.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, they feel persecuted and so they, they want to get their money's worth.

[Covino]

There was a breakup I went through in a previous relationship, lifetimes ago. And I was always accused. People always want to know what happened, what happened? Somebody chi, what happened? Nobody cheated, right? Sometimes people grow apart, but there's always stories.

[Matt Levine]

Oh, I started those rumors.

[Covino]

Yeah, Rich started those rumors. The stories always came back to me. He's like, I heard you didn't support her and, you know, support her dreams and you know, her career and stuff. I'm like, told you that. She told me that you said that she was chasing pipe dreams. I'm like, maybe I said that. I said, But I only said that because she said that I was like an inferior man. And my mom wore combat boots and, you know, I had a small package and I wasn't bringing home the bacon. I wasn't laying it down in the bedroom. I only said that in response to me being the worst guy ever, you know, cuz we were running behind on bills or something. So you know, that part of the story is always left out. So I'm here to claim my innocent innocence. If I ever said something about, hey, well, your pipe dreams aren't paying the bills. That was only in defense to me, you know what I mean? Me being put down in every which way possible.

[Matt Levine]

Hold on. Kavino, lay down on the couch and keep talking.

[Covino]

Seriously. So I'm here to say, hey, man, that's not how it went down.

[Rich Davis]

Sounds like the reality TV show that Covina.

[Covino]

No, I'm Joe Mixon, dude. I Shouldn't have been. Fine.

[Matt Levine]

Wrongfully accused.

[Covino]

So I might as well wrongfully accused. You know, I may have said something along those lines, but it was in retaliation. There's a difference between just strutting up to somebody and insulting them. Right? But like, no, hold up. Yeah, I may have said something along those lines, but it was in response. That's the difference. People leave those things out of the story sometimes. That's unfair, Joe Mix. I'm here to say, hey, I'm innocent. I got mixing and Joe Nixon and I want any fines.

[Matt Levine]

We got your back, Joe. Because the reality is he got accused. He then came out and said, wrongfully accused.

[Covino]

Like, Leslie Nielsen.

[Matt Levine]

You're accusing me of this trash? And then like, oh, yeah, find again.

[Covino]

By the way, again, have you guys seen Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen? Very underrated.

[Rich Davis]

That's a good one.

[Matt Levine]

It really is.

[Covino]

It's the same Naked Gun type of humor. It's so dumb. It's so dumb.

[Matt Levine]

By the way, Danny, if you were to lay down and talk to a therapist, would you want Jason Siegel or Harrison Ford's character?

[Rich Davis]

Harrison Ford, Great therapist.

[Covino]

What show is that?

[Matt Levine]

Drinking on Apple tv.

[Rich Davis]

Just bring him top shelf candy. Pay your bill.

[Covino]

No, but again, it is a story of wrongfully accused. Like, it's unfair what they're doing to him. He never said it. And then he got fined again for even bringing it up. And that happens in real life sometimes. Like, yo, now defending myself. You should be allowed to defend yourself. Give me a break.

[Matt Levine]

Dan Byer is a man of knowledge that I don't have DB A lot of the fines based on if they're league or team given. That depends if it goes to charitable stuff or versus just the team. Like, yeah, I think that.

[Jon Stewart]

I thought that the league finds. I'll go to a charitable.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah, but I don't know about the team ones, though.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah, I don't know what. Yeah, that would. Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Levine]

Would you rather be fine by the team or the league?

[Jon Stewart]

Or the league?

[Matt Levine]

Yeah.

[Jon Stewart]

Cause if you did something with a team, that's probably detrimental to the team. The league. You just did something. You hit a guy high.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah, true. Well, hey, Joe Mix. And we feel you. Your thoughts at.

[Jon Stewart]

By the way, I didn't mean high on marijuana. I just meant, like, helmet face. Yes, yes, thank you.

[Covino]

DB87799 on Fox again is being wrongfully accused. It's defending yourself. And that should never be held against you either. When you're just telling the truth. It's like, yo, you're accusing me of saying something or doing something that never happened. And then just because you simply spoke up to defend yourself, you're now being punished even more. That is unfortunate in life, in this story. And it just makes you want to clear your name a little bit, whether.

[Matt Levine]

You'Re following us or not. The bottom line is Joe Mixon represents every man or woman who has been accused of something at work or in their personal life, didn't do it. And then when they went to defend themselves, like, you crazy?

[Covino]

I didn't do it.

[Matt Levine]

That's like the person being like, all right, now you're more in trouble.

[Covino]

What I remember, and we've all been.

[Matt Levine]

There once, like I said, in a relationship work somewhere, you've been accused, you show.

[Covino]

And you think about this in any, like, story of crime and any sort of court story, like, if you didn't do something, you were innocent, wouldn't you? You want to let everybody know right away that you're innocent. In this situation, I think silence speaks volumes because it makes people speculate. Like, I guess he did it.

[Matt Levine]

True crime the way. The way when they break down the demographics, true crime stuff is the number one category among middle aged women. True crime is the top category. Look at podcasts, look at everything. True crime. I agree with you, but I would.

[Covino]

Be very adamant if I was accused of doing something like, I didn't do that.

[Matt Levine]

Danny gave evolve. Sudden you're being cuffed, and it's like, you killed your neighbor. And it's like, what if you didn't kill your neighbor, would you be quiet?

[Covino]

Or what?

[Matt Levine]

Do you go in the news and be like, I'm innocent, I tell you.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, you have to be quiet. This is like my cousin Vinnie.

[Covino]

I feel like. I feel like I shot the clock.

[Matt Levine]

I shot. I shot the clerk. I shot the clerk.

[Covino]

Now I remember in high school, I got accused of doing something. Honestly, guys, you know me. This is something I don't think, I hope you think I would never do.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I remember this girl told people that I spray painted, like, obscenities in her driveway. Like, I.

[Rich Davis]

Like, normally you only did Yankee logos.

[Covino]

You know, gang tags and things. But, like, personal insults toward this girl, right? And the type of person she was skank, right? And it's like she told people that I did that. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And this is a minor example. If I didn't defend myself, what would people think that maybe he did?

[Matt Levine]

But then how come. How come when you see these true crime documentaries on Netflix, when someone's accused of, like, hey, they murdered their wife. If you didn't, I would be. I'd be like, get every news camera here. I did not do. But lawyers would be like, shut up.

[Covino]

In my stupid, you know, throwback story, I was like, yo, hold on, guys. I didn't do. Why in the world would I do something like that? I didn't do that. Why would anyone even say that?

[Rich Davis]

And really quick, Rich, A quick search says NFL in team fines are also donated to charitable causes.

[Matt Levine]

It makes me feel a little better.

[Covino]

So I don't blame Joe Mixon for defending himself here in this moment. I do think the league is whack for finding him twice. It shows how sensitive and soft they are. They don't want to hear anything about it. And they're real quick to find this dude. Wait, so they find him. How much then?

[Matt Levine]

Total?

[Covino]

50G. So it's 50g.

[Rich Davis]

It's two different fences. Now.

[Covino]

That's weak, man. And like Iowa Sam said, it might not seem like a lot now, but it might in the future.

[Rich Davis]

I'm sure they're going to pull one of them. But that still leaves a $25,000 fine on the table.

[Matt Levine]

Well, hey, Joe Mixon, we got your back, buddy. Now, coming up on the show, can you pinpoint your best and worst moments? I'm not talking like real sad, real life stuff because there's a story about Saquon Barkley and a story about Mark Andrews, and somehow they tie together. We'll get to that next right here. Kavino and Rich get ready for championship weekend in the NFL.

[Covino]

Now, we're not TV weathermen, but we know about driving in winter conditions. Forecast for a lot of the country, snow and ice are here. Isn't everything in the country just sort of backwards and crazy right now? Oh, yeah.

[Matt Levine]

It's like, hey, this, this, this part of the country is burning down. This place has snow, right?

[Covino]

It makes driving a challenge. Thankfully, the experts at Tirek know a thing or two about conquering winter's worst. Rain, sleet, slush, whatever winter means to you.

[Matt Levine]

Fires.

[Covino]

Unfortunately, Tire Rack has the tires that will elevate your traction and braking and.

[Matt Levine]

Keep you safe all season tires, all weather tires. And if you live where it snows a lot, they got dedicated winter tires. Go to tirek.com their easy to use shopping tools will guide you to a personalized recommendation. The right tires for how, what and where you drive.

[Covino]

Choose from the full line of Yokohama tires ship fast and free and backed by two years of free road hazard protection. If you go to tirerack.com sports got to see their Yokohama test results and special offers while you're there.

[Matt Levine]

Tire Rack has thousands of recommended installers, and they offer the convenience of mobile tire installation. That's where they bring the tires to your home. It's awesome. Great tires, great deals. What more could you ask for? Just go to tirerack.com sports tirerack.com the way tire buying should be.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the. The heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink.

[Matt Levine]

There was something sentimental when you, like when, when you send it, it was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Matt Levine]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adnan Burke]

What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL unscripted with Vir and Demers.

[Jason Demers]

Hey, I'm Jason Immerse, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.

[Adnan Burke]

I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what, Tons of back and forth on all things NHL.

[Adnan Burke]

Yeah, you're soon gonna find out we're not just hockey talk. We had all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear on NHL.

[Jason Demers]

Now you wish you could pull off my Short shorts, Ferkie.

[Adnan Burke]

That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burkin Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennik]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can this Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[Michael Rapaport]

Happy holidays from me, Michael Rapaport, and my gift to you is a free subscription to the I Am Rapport Stereo podcast where I discuss entertainment, sports, politics, and anything and everything that catches my attention. I am here to call it as I see it, and there's a whole lot of things catching my eyes these days. Here's a clip from one of my favorite episodes. You are not a real fighter. You will never be discussed anywhere in boxing history, ever.

[Matt Levine]

Fake Paul.

[Michael Rapaport]

The movie is the Apprentice and the movie is about young Donald Trump and his apprentice, Roy Cohen. Real character. Obviously, both real characters. It kind of has a Scarface vibe to it, which I thought was very interesting. Listen to the I Am Rapaport Stereo podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eric Zimmer]

Can you hear it? It's the whisper of two wolves inside you. One says, you're not enough. The other says, keep going. You can do this. They're always talking. The one you listen to shapes your life. I'm Eric Zimmer, host of the one you feed on my podcast. We explore how to hear the voice that matters, the one that leads you to courage, wisdom and love. It's not about perfection. It's about direction. Millions of listeners have fed their good wolf. Now it's your turn. Listen to the one you feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Levine]

Oh, you know the way to my heart. I was Sam, some old school Billy Joel.

[Covino]

I think this is how you should claim your innocence, though you scream out on the rooftops, people trying to ruin your character. Like, yo, I never said that. I didn't do that. If you're innocent, I think you speak out. So I defend Joe Mixon here in this story, but again, for speaking out against the refs in the NFL, he was fined again, $25,000 times two. We have other things to get to, but I know you had a story, Rich. And we'll take your phone calls at 87799 on Fox. We're live from the Tirerack.com studio. Remember, rapid Radios are the wonky talkie for the playoffs. They're Push to Talk offering national LTE coverage. No subscription ever. Perfect for instant contact with your friends. We use them on the show, we'll use them at the super bowl. Go to rapidradios.com now for up to 60% off and free shipping.

[Matt Levine]

And rapid radio is also vital during emergency situations like the wildfires out here in la. In an emergency, you want rapid radios. Instant Push to Talk. Walkie talkie, clear national LT coverage. Peace of mind for connecting with people in an emergency situation. Now we're talking about being wrongfully accused in a relationship at work. The Joe Mixon story is funny because he got wrongfully accused twice. Now he's double fined by the NFL. Our buddy Mike, who's listening? In Cincinnati.

[Rich Davis]

Who?

[Matt Levine]

Mike.

[Covino]

Mike in Cincinnati.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah, but no, not that guy. He said, I got accused of drinking on the job because I brought a root beer back from the deli that was like a brown bottle. I got reported to hr. I had to dig the bottle out of the trash can at work.

[Covino]

That's a great.

[Matt Levine]

And be like, here's the drinking on the job. And he had to actually present the empty root beer bottle.

[Covino]

Why in the world Beer on it? That's what I'm saying. When you are that innocent who snitched.

[Rich Davis]

On him, I gotta know.

[Covino]

Yo, dude, people, you know what? There's so many snitches. Little baby, I know what you want to say. Yeah. So many snitches.

[Jon Stewart]

We had somebody here that was accused of the same thing, because they were.

[Matt Levine]

And I believe that drinking on a job, you betcha.

[Covino]

We've all seen it. But if that really was your story, to me, you're a fool to not defend yourself.

[Matt Levine]

That's why I get it.

[Covino]

If Joe Mixon, like, why eat that 25,000 if he's like, yo, I didn't do it. And I want everybody to know, fight.

[Matt Levine]

It till the end.

[Covino]

Fight it till the end. Don't pay a Penny, I'm with him on that.

[Matt Levine]

Let's say hi to Arn in South Dakota. What's up, Arn? Hey, fellas. How you doing?

[Covino]

Thanks for taking my call.

[Matt Levine]

Dude, I'll tell you what. This is only the second Arn I've ever met. Arne Anderson and Arn from South Dakota.

[Covino]

Hey, fair enough.

[Matt Levine]

Well, two falsely accused. Earlier this year, I did get rightfully accused of doing bad math on this show. And I said the Vikings were going to go 15 and three, but 14.

[Covino]

14 and 14.

[Matt Levine]

Three is not bad. Not bad. I got falsely accused of being a mooch one time in.

[Covino]

In college. I have never, ever, ever allowed that to happen again. Like, I didn't sleep for three days. And it's. It's an interesting social experiment when you. When you get falsely accused, like, how do you.

[Matt Levine]

How do you deal with it?

[Covino]

And what.

[Matt Levine]

What do you do going forward to never have that happen again?

[Covino]

And.

[Matt Levine]

And thanks for taking my call.

[Covino]

No problem. I think those are great examples. And the drinking on the. Like, you're defending your character at that point. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Matt Levine]

That's all. Timeout.

[Covino]

Ye. What? So I think you have every right to. And it's a shame they doubled down instead of hearing him out, but I get it. It's the NFL. It's how they work.

[Matt Levine]

DB Brought up drinking on the job, and our buddy said he was accused. There are times where. Have you ever had someone tell a story where they exaggerated how, like, drunk or high you were, and you so badly want to be like, hold on one second. Like. Like, I stop what you are. Oh, like you. Me at your Christmas party. I was fine, and you were like, Sam was. I was just feeling good. Walk around social. I would say you were sitting by the fireplace telling stories to yourself.

[Covino]

No, I wasn't. Again, more embellishment. No, I remember Rich made. He was joking, too. We were playing, like, last one standing or something. And make. Rich made reference that I was cheating. And I got, like, so offended so instantly because, like, I'm like, dude, whoa, hold on. No way. No one's cheating here in this game. Like, you need to defend yourself sometimes. And I think this is one of those times. I don't find. I find it odd if you didn't. I find it more odd if you did.

[Matt Levine]

To wrap it. It's a sports related story when someone says you're lying. This is. This is such a silly, meaningless example. But I was playing softball like, I do, because, you know, I'm trying to stay active. I made a catch in the outfield. And it was like a legit. I'll be honest, it was a great catch. Like I laid out. Oh, I came up with it a little web. Jim.

[Covino]

It was Jim Edmonds.

[Matt Levine]

Like, it was a Jim Edmonds. Griffey Jr. Bo Jackson. Like, I like laid out. And, you know, I held up the ball and I'm like, yeah.

[Covino]

Rich climbed the wall like Kenny Lofton.

[Matt Levine]

And the fat umpire behind home plate that didn't even come out behind the plate to even get a look was like, yeah, no catch. Hit the floor. I damn near lost my mind. Because in those scenarios, you're like, I'm not, I'm not trying to sell you. I caught the ball. It's a right.

[Covino]

It's an injustice.

[Rich Davis]

There's been instant replay in the Balboa softball league ever since.

[Covino]

Yeah, ever since he changed the game there. It shouldn't be.

[Matt Levine]

All right, thank you, Danny G. Thank you for all the feedback. Kavino, Rich. And then we go to Dan Buyer for an update. Db.

[Covino]

What up, db, db.

[Jon Stewart]

By the way, it's my understanding that the, the employee who no longer works here wasn't drunk.

[Matt Levine]

Just a little.

[Jon Stewart]

We have a laid back atmosphere and just took it a little too laid back. That's all it was. Yes.

[Covino]

Hey, it happens.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah. Something. Something of that nature. Guys, we know who the five finalists are for the NFL's Most Valuable Player award. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Saquon Barkley, Joe Burrow and Jared Goff, considered the five finalists for the AP honor that will be announced during the NFL honors coming up on February 6, just a few days before Super Bowl 59. Longtime Cowboys reporter Clarence Hill reports that the Cowboys could, quote, cross the finish line, end quote, in the next day or so in making Brian Schottenheimer the Cowboys head. No official word from Dallas on the situation. Eagles tight end Dallas Goddard's practicing today despite an ankle injury that forced him to miss yesterday's workout. Jaguars want to speak with Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady and Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore about their coaching vacancy. Some news from the NBA and tonight's game between the Bucks and Miami Heat tip off has been delayed an hour. They're going to tip off 7:30 local time in Milwaukee. That's because the Bucks are still flying back from New Orleans. They're going to get off a plane and play an NBA game tonight. They were stuck in the city because of the winter storms that hit much of the south over the last couple of days. The game last night against the Pelicans for Milwaukee was actually postponed. Hornets forward Brandon Miller done for the season. He needs wrist surgery. Spurs routed the Pacers today in Paris 140 to 110. Victor Wembanyama 30 points and 11 rebounds. LeBron and Bronny James reportedly turned down an offer to compete as a father son duo in the NBA All Star Skills Challenge. That's according to NB Insider Chris Haynes and multiple reports say the Atlanta Braves and Jerks and Profar have agreed to terms on a free agent contract as he leaves San Diego. Guys, back to you.

[Covino]

Thank you, db. Speaking of the Braves, I thought it was kind of cool that Chipper Jones, Larry, Larry Chipper Jones went public via social media, speaking out on Andrew Jones, his brother Andrew Jones saying like how is this guy not in the hall of Fame? Are you crazy?

[Matt Levine]

He'll get there.

[Covino]

When you look at his stats. Yeah, he'll get there. But it was nice to see that he had the support of his former teammates.

[Matt Levine]

And two notes. I'm sure Dan has a million things in the update. Is any truth to jets new head coach Aaron Glenn insinuating he wants to keep Aaron Rodgers around? Is that just speculation? Is there any, like, confirmation?

[Jon Stewart]

I haven't done a dive deep on a deep dive on it.

[Matt Levine]

And as a Met, as a Mets.

[Covino]

Fan, then why are you wearing all that scuba gear?

[Matt Levine]

Yeah, good one Steve. And the other thought was he got me. He freaking got me, guys. That and the other one, as a Mets fan, just go to break.

[Jon Stewart]

I mean you're going to end on that high note.

[Matt Levine]

Hey. Oh yeah, that was vino and rich nay. Now, hey, listen, the average cost and time to hire someone for most organizations, 30 to 45 days. Are you tired of a costly and lengthy hiring process? Well, simplify all that and speed up your recruitment by using the experts at Express Employment Professionals.

[Covino]

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[Matt Levine]

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[Covino]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the. The heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.

[Matt Levine]

There was something sentimental when you, like when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Matt Levine]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adnan Burke]

What's up, everybody? Ad Nan Verk here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Virkin Demers.

[Jason Demers]

Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst. And boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.

[Adnan Burke]

I love you, by the way, on NHL Network. We're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things to running it that we love. Right?

[Jason Demers]

Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment, and pop culture. And you know what? Tons of back and forth on all things NHL.

[Adnan Burke]

Yeah, you're soon going to find out we're not just hockey talk. We get all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear on NHL.

[Jason Demers]

Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts. Forky.

[Adnan Burke]

That shirt of Kazar rock. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers. The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennik]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[Michael Rapaport]

Happy holidays from me, Michael Rapaport, and my gift to you is a free subscription to the I Am Rapaport Stereo podcast where I discuss entertainment, sports, politics, and anything and everything that catches my attention. I am here to call it as I see it. And there's a whole lot of things catching my eyes these days. Here's a clip from one of my favorite episodes. You are not a real fighter. You will never be discussed anywhere in boxing history.

[Covino]

Ever.

[Michael Rapaport]

Fake Paul the movie is the Apprentice and the movie is about young Donald Trump and his apprentice, Roy Cohen. Real character, obviously both real characters. It kind of has a Scarface vibe to it, which I thought was very interesting. Listen to the I Am Rapaport Stereo podcast on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast and wherever you get your podcast.

[Eric Zimmer]

Can you hear? It's the whisper of two wolves inside you. One says, you're not enough. The other says, keep going. You can do this. They're always talking. The one you listen to shapes your life. I'm Eric Zimmer, host of the one you feed on my podcast. We explore how to hear the voice that matters, the one that leads you to courage, wisdom and love. It's not about perfection, it's about direction. Millions of listeners have fed their good wolf. Now it's your turn. Listen to the one you feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Covino]

Can we kick it?

[Matt Levine]

Yes, we can.

[Covino]

Can he pick it? Can he pick it?

[Matt Levine]

Yes, he can.

[Covino]

Love me some A Tribe Called Quest. But there was always an inner debate amongst my friends. When you were organizing your CDs in your case Logic Binder, or when you were displaying them in your sweet CD case back in the Throwback Thursday, did you alphabetize them under A or T?

[Rich Davis]

A?

[Covino]

Yeah, it's always a Tribe Called Quest. I have friends that would do Tribe Called Quests. I'M like, no, dude, it's a tribe. It's under A bro. We used to fight about tycoon.

[Matt Levine]

A movie starts with the T's.

[Covino]

The White Stripes. Where do you alphabetize them?

[Matt Levine]

I mean, you have to do T. I do W. I gotta go with the word with the meat in it.

[Covino]

Going W on that Covina.

[Rich Davis]

We even had ATCQ shirts.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

So of course it gets alphabetized with the A.

[Covino]

Love me some. A Tribe Called Quest.

[Matt Levine]

It sounds funny when you say that, though, right?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Matt Levine]

Because you want to say, I love a Tribe called Mate. I love.

[Covino]

I love a tribe called Tribe Called Quest. So it's like saying, hey, did you get the. The White Stripes album?

[Rich Davis]

And you know why? Because.

[Matt Levine]

Weird.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, because people would just say tribe. Oh, that new one from Tribe.

[Covino]

Dude. So we're Kavino and Rich Donut, back on a Thursday, about to get into some old school. When 50 hits, we always throw it back in. Reminisce on Thursdays. But I know you had one. Pete Alonzo. Thought you wanted to share real quick.

[Matt Levine]

I mean. I mean, they're saying talks now are advancing with the Blue Jays. As a Mets fan, which I am, I have an answer. But I want to know what you would. What your answer is. If the Mets offered Polar Bear Pete, I think an insulting offer, but then again, maybe I'm wrong because it's not like the market's heating up for, you know, the big man. The mets offered him three years 70, less than 25 a year. I thought the initial offering really would be. I thought they were going to give Pete like four years, 120 like 30 a year. I way overestimated his value because clearly if that were the case, someone else would have swooped in already. They're calling the Blue Jays a little desperate right now, trying to keep up with what the Yankees are doing. Orioles, Red Sox are trying to make moves. I know. So they're saying right now, the Blue Jays are saying, how could we be competitive if The Mets said three years 70 and Pete said no, how much better would the deal need to be for him to pick up his life, move to Canada, get away from a team that is trying to put a winner on the field in the National League in the Mets, Like, I get it. If it was 4 years 120 or over 100 million, I get it. But if they said 3 years 80, do you move to Toronto and just.

[Covino]

And he's such a great fit on that Mets team, you know, he would.

[Matt Levine]

Be in a lineup with Lindor and Soto and there'd be protection.

[Covino]

Yeah, he's got to take that. Running out of option.

[Rich Davis]

It would have to be 15 or more million dollars.

[Matt Levine]

I would think this is some B.S. like, oh, he took three years. 80 mil of three year 70. Don't you feel like Steve Cohen would have then been like, all right, let's. I don't know, it's. It's leaving a bad taste in a lot of Met fans mouths because we don't expect Pete to get this big Soto deal. But he is a homegrown guy. And you're thinking now like, really, you can't just secure this guy. There's no way you're going to compete with the Dodgers if you're like, oh, well, we'll roll out some minor leaguers. Get Pete Alonzo done. Come on, Mets. Don't let him go to the Blue Jays. The end.

[Covino]

Maybe he's waiting for amazing day on Saturday. Right when they announced their new away jersey.

[Matt Levine]

Can't wait. Maybe that'll be the day, you know, hey, look at the clock. It is 50.

[Covino]

There's a search.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah, what we gonna do right here is go back.

[Covino]

Back into time.

[Rich Davis]

Throwing it back for a Thursday old school, when 50 hits at 50 after.

[Covino]

C and R. Give you the time.

[Matt Levine]

Capsule topic and we reminisce together. Yeah.

[Covino]

Well, before we dive into it. And we're diving deep. That's why I got all the scuba gear up like Jacques Cousteau.

[Matt Levine]

Look at you. You like Greg Loganis.

[Covino]

Before we dive into this, I do want to give props to Danny G diving, because Danny G's always super producing, coming up with great ideas for us. And he saw a meme, a meme.

[Matt Levine]

That said, oh, wait, he saw a meme. He was doing Camino style research.

[Covino]

Yes. I get all my news and ideas from memes. He says, hey, guys, look at this meme. What do you think? And the meme reads, name a singer or band you wouldn't go see even if you had a free ticket. So this meme went semi viral, but it was kind of fun because it's a nice throwback discussion that we could have because it doesn't have to be a band or a singer. It could be an athlete that people raved about, but you just feel found boring. Or a team that won so many games but really didn't excite you, you wouldn't even care to see them. It could be anything.

[Rich Davis]

Or a TV show or movie.

[Covino]

Right.

[Rich Davis]

Where you know, you just didn't get it. Covino saw it a year later and was Raving about it on Netflix, but you still don't get it.

[Matt Levine]

Gerald's game.

[Covino]

Gerald's game.

[Matt Levine]

This guy.

[Covino]

So we'll go to your phone calls at 877-99- on Fox, because we like to open it up, get involved, Sam. Think of stuff. D, bitch. Whoever's hanging out, Spotty, Covino and Rich, I'll start it off by saying, because it's kind of relevant now. I'll go see the Timothee Chalamet Bob Dylan movie. But if you gave me a free ticket to go see that guy perform, I'd pass on it. And I understand his legacy, and he's a great songwriter. And do you realize he wrote this, this and that, and his songs are beautiful. I would not want to hear that guy. I squealed. Yes. Even if I had a free ticket.

[Matt Levine]

I have seen him in concert.

[Covino]

Oh, that's. It was great. Really? Was it really?

[Matt Levine]

I saw him with my dad, and Elvis Costello opened up for him.

[Covino]

But was he really great, or was it you just taking in the fact that, you know, he was a legend? So I would say you could check that box.

[Matt Levine]

I would say that his band behind him was really great, and he was kind of mumbling singing stuff.

[Covino]

Yeah, I don't.

[Matt Levine]

That's nothing for me. I can say I saw Bob Dylan in concert. I respect that.

[Covino]

You could say that because you saw a legend. I. I totally get that.

[Matt Levine]

I don't think it was ever on the bucket list, but now it's checked off. Yeah.

[Covino]

Like, I. I understand the thought behind that, but honestly, that dude does not thrill me. Not even the slightest.

[Matt Levine]

So when going up and blue.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Play the next time.

[Covino]

So, wait, you got a ticket for free?

[Matt Levine]

Nah, I'm good. That's a good one. What artist? What sporting event? What would you not pay for? You know what? I. I have a few artists I'm gonna call out. And you know what? I'm. I've been to a hockey game. I've been to a few. I'm not bashing our hockey friends. But if you want me to go to a hockey game, you better have seats on the glass, because I'm not going to a hockey game.

[Rich Davis]

Why?

[Covino]

Are you gonna put them on the glass like stem?

[Matt Levine]

I'm gonna put my boobs on the glass.

[Covino]

Nice.

[Matt Levine]

Shock, everyone. But I'm not going to a hockey game if you give me tickets for free. I'm sorry. I'm just not going.

[Covino]

Too cold.

[Matt Levine]

Yeah. We'll get more of your feedback next.

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[Adnan Burke]

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[Jason Demers]

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[Adnan Burke]

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[Covino]

Okay?

[Adnan Burke]

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[Jason Demers]

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine, a lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC.

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