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Colin Cowherd
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Brady Quinn
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LaVar Arrington
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Brady Quinn
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LaVar Arrington
Tell your doctor if any of these occur and if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.
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Jonas Knox
Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total game changer.
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Jonas Knox
Thanks.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jonas Knox
Now, let's get this party started.
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Brady Quinn
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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LaVar Arrington
It's the Herd, Fox Sports Radio. And it's two pros and a cup of joe. Filling in for Colin Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, we are going to take you all the way up until 3:00 Eastern Time. That'll be noon Pacific time. And Brady Quinn, we are rocking and rolling here on a Tuesday.
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Brady Quinn
Yeah, we are.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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Brady Quinn
Feeling very patriotic today, are you?
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Jonas Knox
Little. Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
Little fired up.
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Brady Quinn
President's Day weekend coming off some, I don't know, something about the four nations hockey thing, man, it kind of got me going. It's not just the fights, either. Just a lot of pride. A lot of pride for this great country we live in.
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LaVar Arrington
Now, I noticed you mentioned that before you mentioned any of the other festivities that took place this weekend. Were you not.
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Brady Quinn
What else took place this weekend?
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LaVar Arrington
Well, I think there was Valentine's Day.
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Brady Quinn
What else? Friday, of course.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah, I went to a Monster Jam event that was fun. I got to go see. You know, my son and I, we have our favorite monster truck, the Black Pearl. Fun.
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Brady Quinn
Is that more of something that you got him into or did, did he get into that?
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LaVar Arrington
I got him in, in his Easter basket or his Christmas stocking. Either Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny got him a monster truck just randomly and he just was hooked ever since. And it's fun. It's a fun event. But. But I mean, there was that and there was trying to think what else there was going on this weekend. All the All Star Game festivities in the NBA.
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Brady Quinn
Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right.
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LaVar Arrington
There was. There was that. And yeah, I don't know, man. I mean, Kevin Durant's, you know, looking at the situation going, well, hey, listen, you know, people just like to criticize. It's more fun to criticize the NBA and the All Star Game on social media than it is. Than it to Go ahead. Hi there. Than it is to Jesus Than it is Is that you Is too.
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Jonas Knox
Coming home.
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LaVar Arrington
Where'd you park?
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Brady Quinn
Pollo Loco.
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Jonas Knox
Jeez.
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LaVar Arrington
Going out to a ticket later.
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Jonas Knox
It was a very. No, no. It was a very interesting morning though, I tell you.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
26 mile drive, an hour and 20 minutes.
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Brady Quinn
That's pretty standard though for LA, isn't it?
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Jonas Knox
I mean, that's a first for me. That's a first I've never.
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LaVar Arrington
Worst I've ever seen with no accident.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, that's, that's. That was interesting. Yesterday was only 40 minutes to get in here, but I guess it's because it was, it was a holiday. Yeah, but. Yeah, anyways, I mean. Which would be a more interesting conversation than obviously the one that we're having right now. Listen, Kevin Durant is, is a great personality. He is one of the guys and one of the players that drives the, drives the needle, keeps them relevant and in some aspects, in some regards. But I mean, you can't be sensitive about the criticisms that are being levied their way and how, I guess, relentless and how aggressive the conversations of how bad some of these things have been, Especially, you know, surrounding the conversation of All Star Weekend. I mean, it just is what it is, you know, and again, that's just that the reality of it is, is that you don't have enough personalities like Kevin Durant in today's NBA that are building relations. You ever think about that? Like, I was, I was looking at our comments yesterday, and it's like the, the whole idea of what relationships are being built between player and, and fan, who is, who is really what teams are really building these strong bonds like we used to see in the olden days of the nb. Who was, who was the, the. The. The commissioner back then? Passed away Stern. When Stern was the commissioner, there was such a focus on building the reputations, building the personalities of these teams and of these players and connecting them with their fans. There's a disconnect, certainly a disconnect.
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Brady Quinn
I, I view this entire conversation because we kind of got railroaded there on the NBA, which Lord knows, I don't want to talk about that as much because I, I think what, what I witnessed was the game of hockey in very, very similar lights. Well, you came in late, so you missed out on the initial part of the conversation.
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Jonas Knox
I did. I was just listening.
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Brady Quinn
So the Four Nations Hockey Exhibition, right. Like, doesn't matter for any of those players in regards to the Stanley Cup. Right. We're not to the playoffs yet in hockey, so you can call it whatever you want to call it. It was Brilliant by the NHL. It had so much interest, I think the ratings were somewhere over 5 million or so. Ended up watching for basically an exhibition game very similar to what the NBA All Star game is. And you have at least in regards to the NBA, one of the greatest ambassadors in the history of the game in LeBron James who is for the first time ever opts out to play. Now granted he is dealing with an injury and he's played forever and he's made every All Star for to over two decades. So I guess he's got the right to do that. But what I'm pointing out is the difference in the intensity of both these games. And I think that's the connection with fans. If I'm going to take a piece of my life, if I'm going to go spend my hard earned money and go watch a NBA All Star game or a hockey game, that's an exhibition, like I want to see the intensity that you care at least as much as I do. And granted, you know, I think it's tough to compare when you've got for example, four nations, people representing their country to compare it to the All Star game. Even though there's some international players, there's some guys who, their representation goes beyond just representing whatever it is in the All Star Game in the NBA they're representing people back home, people in other, other countries. But to me that's the disconnect is I'm not here to bash the NBA or NBA players because I think part of the reason why the game is where the game's at is because these are the most skilled NBA players we've ever seen. And so there's always going to be evolution in a game when it's like that. But what I saw in hockey, and maybe it's just the culture of hockey because they both play the same amount of regular season games. And I'd make the case that the Stanley cup playoffs is much more enduring because it's more of a physical sport anyway and it's a longer road anyway to a championship than the NBA is. So like what's hard to watch is this load management era of athletes and this, this thought that like, yeah, it's okay to sit out and take up a roster spot and not play because I've done this so much and I'm one of the greatest of all time. And then meanwhile you've got dudes who are dropping gloves as soon as the puck drops because they're ticked off. And look, I don't care if it was planned or not because they're ticked off about the Canadian fans were booming and we're going to show them something. We're going to set this thing off. Right? And that's how intense this game, this game's going to be. Even though it's just an exhibition for me, like that won me over. Like, I really don't have a dog in the fight one way or another. I'm just a fan. Right. You know, didn't, didn't play at either of those levels. At a high level. I do have a family member who plays in the NHL. But you know, I don't necessarily say like I'd rather watch one versus the other, but for me, that moment, that was a moment where I looked at hockey and said, yeah, I think you just won over a lot of fans. And I know not everyone tuned in, but you see the viral clips and then you see the win and everything else and it gives you chills, man. It makes you think about, you know, different movies they've made in the past. And, you know, I just, I kind of sit back and go. That's the disconnect is the NBA thinks because they're so great, they're so skilled that people are going to want to watch. You're missing the point. You're missing the intensity of the game. That's what we love, man. We love the passion. We love the intensity. Yes. When it was more physical and guys got in fights, we love that too because we naturally love fighting. It's like if you're driving your car, you guys are both driving in right now. If two people popped out all of a sudden started throwing, you know, fists at one another, you'd stop and watch. It's. It's a human reaction.
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Jonas Knox
You just get involved. You know, maybe you.
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Brady Quinn
I don't know.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, I was feeling good about sitting in this traffic, so, you know, I'd have had some time. You know, they had a five years.
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Brady Quinn
Building up a lot of that intensity.
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Jonas Knox
I figured I'd get, get me someone's and get me a few in as well, you know what I mean? But yeah, you're right.
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Brady Quinn
This isn't exclusive to the NBA. This is the same thing with a Pro bowl watch because there's no intensity like you played in it back when you played. Dude, you dudes used to get hit especially towards the end of the game.
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Jonas Knox
Yes.
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Brady Quinn
Like they were still out there trying to win.
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Jonas Knox
I was hunting.
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Brady Quinn
That's what sport is.
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Jonas Knox
I was hunting heads. Especially if there was somebody on the other side of the ball that I didn't get a chance to see during the season. I certainly wanted to. I remember when Corey Dillon was in the, in the Pro Bowl, I wanted to. I wanted to get him so bad. He was big dude. That's why I wanted it. I wanted that. I wanted to feel what that felt like. You know, everybody was talking about Corey Dillon. Corey Dillon, you know what? He's in the Pro bowl this year. We're lined up against one another. I was trying to get him. You know that. I think that that's what you're talking about, though. It's like when, when Kobe saw Mike, MJ in, in All Star Game, he was trying to get him. And then what happens, MJ's seeing that Kobe's trying to get him. So I'm trying to get you. Like, I, I'm with you on that. I, I saw some of the hockey. I didn't see a whole lot of it. I saw some of it. I thought it was pretty cool. Kind of made me feel like it was like the Olympics, something to.
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Brady Quinn
That's what it felt like, right?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, it did.
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Brady Quinn
It felt like they were representing something bigger than themselves.
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Jonas Knox
It did. It did. And I don't think again, I'll come back to the connection. Like, there is a disconnect in today's athlete, which is. It's weird because you have every bit of the. The technology to connect with the fans in a way that you never have before. And, And I think that that's why the ones who choose to do it, when they do these, these podcasts and their player driven podcast, I think that's why they do so well, is because there is such a disconnect in today's athlete, and I say it's across the board. If you really were to go through like from fan. Fan bases of different eras of time and you were to say, run it like, tell us who the players are. Tell us, tell us the team. Da da da. What they represented. You'd be able to do it. You'd be able to do it. That's why you had, you had nicknames for the different teams. In all the sports, you had nicknames. Broad Street Bullies, Purple People Eaters. The Steel Curtain. The Bad Boys. Yeah, you had different. Because the connection with the fan was so important that everybody was in it together. I don't feel like that's. It's like it's. You're just watching more of a show, you're watching more of a product now. And they are so skilled that it's like, here we Go shooting threes out there, Throw the ball. Hockey. I can't really speak on hockey. I don't really. I don't really know it like that. But I will say it just seems as though for a lot of times, for me, especially because I look at it as a fan as well, outside of the playoffs, I just think they're playing, you're playing, you're like, you're almost to the point of where you look at and you say they're going through the motions. They're so good. You're going through the motions. You get to the playoffs, you know that, that it's intensified because you go home if you lose, that's it. Like, otherwise, I don't know all these players names, and I am a former football player. I don't know all these guys names anymore. I don't. I don't know what they represent. I don't know what the team represents. I don't know what it, what it is. There's a disconnect. It's like you decentralize the fan base, the fans you don't have. You have your, your niche market of fans, but then you go outside of that and everybody's like, ah, I'm. I root for this guy because he's on my fantasy team. Like, I'm root for this guy because I'm. I got a parlay and that. That dictates who I want to see. Okay, Exactly. Exactly.
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LaVar Arrington
Well, I'll tell you, I probably lost that one anyways. But it was also, it was also the contrast. You know, first we. And we were mentioning this a little bit yesterday, but first weekend without the NFL and you're looking for something, and the na. The NHL gives you. The four nations face off, and they give you that, and the NBA rolls out that. And it's LeBron letting everybody know an hour and a half before the game. Yeah, I'm just not even playing.
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Jonas Knox
Just.
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LaVar Arrington
Just a bad look, man. A bad look. And, you know, hockey benefited from it. You know, whether this, you know, is parlayed itself into better ratings for the league and more people taking interest, like you probably, you probably captured some interest from people who looked at it and said, you know, maybe I'll give this a try because this is a different product than what I'm getting from the NBA. And so again, they can get all sensitive about it all they want. It's not like people are rooting for it to suck. They just want it to be a little better. And that's where we are when it comes to. Comes to the NBA. By the way, Thursday night is the final. The four nations face off final between Canada and the usa. USA is dealing with some injuries too, by the way. You know, get a little nicked up.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, but you're All Stars, right? All Stars.
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LaVar Arrington
I mean, you're representing. Your.
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Brady Quinn
Representing the U.S. yeah, the U.S. so.
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Jonas Knox
It'S the best of the best of.
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Brady Quinn
The U.S. from the U.S. but like, yeah, there's obviously they're really good players on Canada. I mean, Canada I think was slated to.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, they're the best, aren't they? They're the best.
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Brady Quinn
We will. The USA beat him 3. One in the most recent.
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LaVar Arrington
We're gonna find out Thursday whether they're the best.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, historically speaking, the, you know, the Canadians play hockey differently than everybody else.
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LaVar Arrington
What do you mean by that?
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Jonas Knox
Man, I don't know. Isn't there another place too? Like, doesn't Russia play it pretty well too?
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah, they got other things going on right now.
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Jonas Knox
Racist. Dang.
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Brady Quinn
Something going on there.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, they're using different sticks over there. Too soon.
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LaVar Arrington
It's part of the reason why Russia's.
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Jonas Knox
Not involved was too soon.
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Brady Quinn
How's that Race Lee would not include some of the content in the rundown.
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Jonas Knox
That doesn't, I mean, but that doesn't change the fact that they're good at hockey though, right? I mean, we would. You can admit that maybe.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
Okay. I'm just saying.
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LaVar Arrington
Got some good players.
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Jonas Knox
All right. They're good shooters.
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LaVar Arrington
They're not on the gas. But again, that's, you know, teach their own. It is the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. It is two pros and a cup of Joe in for Colin and company Here on this Tuesday. We are going to have the Herdline news starring Greg Tuohy. Again, Greg Tuohy did such a phenomenal job yesterday that people have been pounding the table for him to come back for more. So Greg Tuohy is going to be featured in the Herdline News throughout the course of the show. And Pete Prisco, good buddy of our show, every single Tuesday morning, he's going to stop by an hour too. And Pete's going to have to respond to some of the harsh criticism he's gotten from a particular fan base in the NFL. So all that is yours here as again, we take you all the way up until 3pm Eastern Time, noon Pacific. We do, though have an update. One team in the NFL is going to get really bold, borderline greedy this off season. We'll tell you who they are right here on fsr.
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Jonas Knox
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Brady Quinn
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Brady Quinn
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Colin Cowherd
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your baseball NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.
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Greg Tuohy
There was something sentimental when you, like.
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Jonas Knox
When you send it, it's like, do.
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Greg Tuohy
I send the heart now?
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Bobby Bones
I don't like the color addition.
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Brady Quinn
It's extremely pink.
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Bobby Bones
Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jonas Knox
Something about Mary Poppins.
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AJ Jacobs
Something about Mary Poppins? Exactly.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, man, this is fun.
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AJ Jacobs
I'm AJ Jacobs and I am an author and a journalist, and I tend to get obsessed with stuff, and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast the Puzzler. Dressing. Dressing.
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Brady Quinn
French dressing.
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AJ Jacobs
Exactly.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, that's good.
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AJ Jacobs
Now you can get your daily Puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears.
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Jonas Knox
I thought to myself, I bet I.
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Brady Quinn
Know what this is.
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Jonas Knox
And now I definitely know what this is.
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Brady Quinn
This is so weird.
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Jonas Knox
This is fun.
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Brady Quinn
Let's try this one.
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AJ Jacobs
Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
That's awful and I should have seen it coming.
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Jonas Knox
Get back now. Come on.
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LaVar Arrington
It's heard on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Colin. Coming up here in. We'll call it a little over 20 minutes from now, we are going to tell you about some big time changes coming to the playoffs. But which playoffs are we referring to? You'll find out here in the Herdline News.
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Jonas Knox
Y'all real professional today, man. Let me, let me put my professional hat on today.
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LaVar Arrington
Well, yeah, that's the way we normally operate.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, really?
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LaVar Arrington
Yes.
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Brady Quinn
Lavar.
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Jonas Knox
Dang.
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Brady Quinn
I just thought I was professional. Apparently not.
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Jonas Knox
I wasn't real professional. I've never been real professional. But.
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LaVar Arrington
All right, let me try it.
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Jonas Knox
Guys.
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LaVar Arrington
Not really a big fan of you misrepresenting us here at a different time slot.
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Brady Quinn
Come on, Johnson.
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Jonas Knox
My most sincerest apologies to you both. Let me do my best to be as professional as I possibly can in the Colin Cow her time slice space.
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LaVar Arrington
Yes. All right, here we go. Well, listen, we do have an update. Cause here we go again.
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Jonas Knox
You want it to smile.
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LaVar Arrington
The team, the team that is hijacking the NFL off season early on in the NFL is none other than your Cincinnati Bengals. And the Cincinnati Bengals, according to Jeremy Fowler of espn, they're aiming to keep their trio of stars. T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, Trey Hendrickson. According to Fowler, who said, you know, they're likely to place the franchise tag on T. Higgins, that'll buy him some time to try and work out a long term deal. But the goal is at least to maintain Jamar Chase to keep Trey Hendrickson. To which I say, well, yeah, of course that's the goal. But whether or not that actually happens cause it's the Bengals remains to be seen. But at least we know that the plan is for the tag when it comes to T. Higgins, at least temporarily, if they can't get a deal done.
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Brady Quinn
All right, let's go back to Joe Burrow's draft. Okay. He's coming off of, again, the greatest season we've ever seen. An individual season For a college football player, I would say that was Joe Burrow's final year at lsu. I mean, the gauntlet of games they went through, undefeated, crushing everyone, winning every award possible, along with his teammates, winning every word possible. I mean, it was an incredible year and he had a lot of leverage at that point. And the Bengals had the number one overall pick. Now granted he's from Southern Ohio, he originally went to Ohio State before he transferred to lsu. I wonder how many oftentimes too Ohio State fans think about if they would have had a national championship before this year, if Joe Burrow would have stayed and what that would have meant for that team instead of ended up being Dwayne Haskins. But I digress. I just. That's kind of one of those, like what would have been if, you know, if Joe Burrow would have been the starter instead of Dwayne Haskins. But anyway, you know, before that draft, do you guys recall the conversation about Burrow and him? Never. I shouldn't say never. But he was reluctant to talk about the Bengals specifically. You know, they had the number one pick, but he didn't really talk about them necessarily. Like, you know, hey, it'd be great to be drafted by the Bengals. I know they're picking a number one. I grew up close to there. He never would say the Bengals and now he kind of would backtrack at. You know, there's different articles about this. He backtracked at the combine saying he want to be presumptuous because he knows a lot of things can happen and someone else could potentially, you know, straight up or take him. And he didn't want to presume that they were going to draft him at that spot. But. But he never said since then until after the fact how excited he was and playing close to home and everything else. I felt like there's a little smoke there. Did you guys feel that way before the draft? Do you recall this?
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah, because it was. He obviously the appeal would be, well, because it's Ohio. But you looked at the situation and said, yeah, but it may not be the best situation for him because they were terrible. Like I think that they. Was it a four win season. They two, two wins and four wins.
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Jonas Knox
I think the first pick.
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LaVar Arrington
And there was talk Zach Taylor was going to get clipped and. And I think it was because I remember Brady, I remember this how this is a long ass time ago. I remember we talked about it because was it Ryan Lindley was a quarterback for the Bengals and he was getting some playing time and then late in the year they went ahead and put Andy Dalton in, it was either first, first or second year of. Of Zach Taylor's time there. And I remember we were kicking around like, man, he must really feel like there's some heat on him to win some games. Otherwise, why do you make the move at that point? And then Burrow got there and it was like he had no cl. What you were supposed to expect from him in that situation there his first year.
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Brady Quinn
And what was interesting about it is if anyone has followed the Cincinnati Bengals, and I've talked about this at length, I've tried to make this case, because this is what's going on this time of year. Behind the scenes, is there an ownership group that doesn't have a ton of money and they've never spent a ton of cash? That's why Carson Palmer ended up leaving, going to Arizona Cardinals, another guy who was supposed to be the guy and was very prolific during his time there. But ultimately, I mean, Lavar, you work with T.J. i mean, who should talk about it, you know, they weren't going to shell out the type of contract that a lot of their teams could, and they weren't going to construct a roster like everyone else potentially could. And they were never going to be able to have the team built out around that position in order to allow them win a Super Bowl. And so you look at, then they go through Andy Dalton and then they get the Joe Burrow. And so you could understand some concern if you're a player who is just coming off the greatest season ever in college football history and you have aspirations of wanting to win a Super bowl and aren't naive to the fact that, like, it takes an organization. It's not just you as the quarterback. You're not fixing, solving everything. As good as Joe Burrow was last year, it still didn't help them win enough games because they didn't have a defense that could help him out. So he's got on this campaign this offseason to really put pressure on the Cincinnati Bengals front office, their ownership, to say, let's do these deals, like, give me these guys back. Give me Jamar Chase, give me T. Higgins. We got to have help on defense. You need Trey hendrickson, who's had 35 sacks the last two years, like, shell out the money and figure out how to make this work. Because we're looking at another team in the Philadelphia Eagles, and they figure out how to make it work. So don't tell me you can't make it work. Like, we just watched them Win a Super bowl doing it. So it just seems appropriate that you're starting to kind of hear, you know, the owner, you know, Jeremy Fowler's report now coming out about, oh, this is what they're aiming to do. Yeah, well, they should be aiming to do it, and they better do it otherwise. And Cincinnati Bengals fans could get upset for me saying this, but eventually, at some point, there may be a fracture between Joe Burrow and the Bengals because of his aspirations of wanting to win a Super Bowl. And if they're not giving him every opportunity to do so, there might be some teams that are out there that are willing to trade for him and the potential chance to. To build out around him to go do that. I mean, there's one that's literally sitting in the back of my mind right now.
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Jonas Knox
Cleveland?
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Brady Quinn
No.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, no, not that. Maybe because you. Cleveland fan. Because I would use a quarterback and I would just pay him the money.
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Brady Quinn
I think there's certain ownership groups that we've seen in front offices that we've seen with our. That have been super aggressive. And so if that spot becomes open, you wonder, you go, okay. Like, I could see that potentially being a suitor, you know, a team that's willing to give up a lot of first round draft picks. A team that for a period of time, like, didn't even draft guys in the first round because they traded away all the first round.
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LaVar Arrington
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Jonas Knox
New England, huh?
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah. Old. Old. Less need. Less need.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, less need. Slang coming out here.
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Brady Quinn
I'm just saying, if Stafford whenever. That it's done or if he's not there.
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Jonas Knox
Did New England trade their picks away, though? They were a team now they've taken.
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Brady Quinn
A lot of first round. Usually they're in the back end, so they might like, trade it back or something.
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Jonas Knox
Okay, trade back. Okay, I got you.
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LaVar Arrington
Huh?
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Jonas Knox
The Rams. I don't know, man. Listen, they made it to the super bowl with this team, and I think they found their sea legs. I don't know why they started so slow this, this upcoming or this past season, but I. I would not have any reservations of thinking that they start fast as a team this upcoming season. And a large part of that would be having that trio guys still on your team with Hendrickson and, and Higgins still there and obviously with. With Jamar Chase. That's a trio that, that you want to have there. If I'm. If I am Joe Burrow and, And you're right there at it. You're talking about a team that doesn't. Like you said, they don't have all the money. They. There's a lot of things that they have working against them. But let's be clear. They can figure it out. They can figure it out if they want to figure it out. And if you want to figure it out because you want to keep Joe Burrow happy, which I would think would be the singular biggest reason to do so, second being to win, go figure. And maybe you could interchange them, but I don't want to lose Joe Burrow's confidence or belief in our organization to that point of him ending up somewhere else. So I think they got it. They have to make as much of an assertive effort to keep this group of guys together, because if they slip, if they slip and become a mediocre team with the type of quarterback and the player that, that Joe Burrow is, and not to mention even the player that Jamar Chase is, I mean, that's, that's, that's, you got to say that's the oblivion of oblivion. You're never going to see the Cincinnati Bengals get any closer than what they are to being a Super bowl contending and possibly winner in the NFL.
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LaVar Arrington
You've drafted hall of Fame players in consecutive drafts. You should probably try and keep them together like that would be. And their connection and what they've done going all the way back to LSU has been phenomenal. And Joe Burrow, by the way, he's a smart guy and he's pretty calculated. I mean, somebody breaks into his home and all of a sudden you find out his assistant is. And he kind of passes that like, he's very, very detail oriented. Joe Burrow is the fact that he not only said, hey, you don't want to make it a habit of losing all your best players, and then comes back and says, I mean, yeah, look at what the Eagles do. The Eagles always seem to figure it out like, he's laid out not a threat, but kind of shot a flare gun into the sky and said, hey, don't want to make it happen of this. And by the way, if you need an example, there's one. And they just got to a Super bowl and won a Super bowl in Philly. He's letting everybody in the organization know we're not playing here anymore. Get it done right.
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Jonas Knox
It's such common sense, fellas.
- [32:35]
LaVar Arrington
You have, you have a legitimate window that you can win a Super Bowl.
- [32:39]
Jonas Knox
Yes.
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LaVar Arrington
It behooves you to do whatever it takes to make sure that you keep that window open as long as possible.
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Jonas Knox
Q. Does that, does that yield a positive roi, like, because to me, it's like, why do you even have to question. Why do we have to have a conversation about it that should be just understood that this is what you need to do. So this man has what he needs to win. If Cincinnati won the super bowl, is that a positive ROI on. On the organization? Like, do those owners get. Do they reap a benefit of the. The money and the revenue going up? Because if that is the case, what. What's the resistance to doing it?
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Brady Quinn
Well, the resistance to. To be able to spend out cash the way other teams do is. Is, you know, you first have to have it. That's part of it. And the other piece of it is, you know, once you do have, you have to be willing to be able to spend it and not just want to put it in your own pockets. I mean, this is a team that's got the smallest scouting department in the NFL. You know, no coaching staff does more work on the evaluation of talent than the Cincinnati Bengals because of that. So, you know, whether you want to call that right, wrong, or indifferent, because they hit on a lot of their draft picks, they develop guys well, you know, I think there should be more cohesion between the scouting departments and the coaching staff and how they're seeing things, how they're going to, you know, put a plan together to develop a player that comes into the league. So maybe the Bengals are doing it right. Maybe they're more efficient than anyone else, but it hasn't ended in a Super Bowl. And you've had countless talent through the years, you know, from Boomer to Carson Palmer to Andy Dalton, who went for a string, at least of playoff appearances, but they really couldn't be it beyond that. So they just blame Andy Dalton. Now you have Joe Burrow. He gets to a Super bowl, they can't win one, and now they're going to have a hard time getting back if they can't keep more pieces out around him. So, you know, yeah, of course. Look, if you're a team that's the top seed, or let's say, you know, the second seed, and you're hosting playoff games and you're able to make it to a Super bowl, of course you're going to make money. You know, you should, at least in a variety of ways. But I think the bigger issue here is whether or not Cincinnati can get done what Joe Burrow's looking to do. And again, it's not like they're asking to put together quite as many, you know, weapons and targets like we've seen. For the Eagles, for example, who've got Saquon is one of the highest paid running backs, who've got Jalen Hurts, which, you know, given his contract, it's one of the higher paid contracts, but not necessarily the highest that helps. But you've got AJ Brown and devontae Smith and all these other pieces that they've got and the players they've got on defense, on the offensive lines. Now, we've talked about it before like that Bell, you know, the bill's going to come to, you know, it's going to come to fruition here in a few years. We know that. But at least they've got this window now in the next two, three years where they can go try to really stack together some wins and be able to be highly competitive, if not at a Super bowl every single year. If things go right, they stay healthy. Cincinnati, it feels like even when Burrows playing at MVP level, it's still not enough. So he's put a lot of pressure on them, I think, to sign back these guys just to give themselves a chance because. Because that's what you're talking about. All three of these guys that they're talking about having to sign back, they were here this past year. It still didn't equate to enough to get them into the playoffs. Now, if they get in the playoffs, it's anyone's guess because that's, that's a dangerous team with what they can do offensively. And then at times you've got a pass rusher like Hendrickson and the way defenses tend to step up in the playoffs sometimes. But that's the problem is it's not just spending on these guys. They've got to keep doing it year after year in order just to give him a shot. And the history of Cincinnati is they haven't done that. And that's why Carson Palmer ended up in Arizona.
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Jonas Knox
That's tough. That's a tough road to hoe, man, to, to continue. It's like, if you get it, it's like, all right, you justify it, you're able to move with it and continue to hopefully build with it. But what if you do come up short? They got there, then they were good enough to beat Kansas City. You know, they get to the, to the, to the super bowl. It just didn't work out for them. So I just, it's interesting because that's really, if you're looking at it from the way you just laid it out how like, that is super, super high stakes if you're the ownership group and that's how you're approaching. I just feel like if that's how you approach owning the team, then shouldn't you get out of the business? It just doesn't seem like that's a business model that is good for conducive for the fan base because you're not really at the end. You're going to choose. You're going to choose money and balance from your. Your fan base over spending and delivering something to your fan base that they can be proud of and they can be happy about and continue to support.
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LaVar Arrington
There's a fallback plan. What is it if it all fails?
- [37:33]
Jonas Knox
Yep.
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LaVar Arrington
Just look around and go, at least we're not the Browns, you know, because it could be worse.
- [37:39]
Jonas Knox
It could be worse.
- [37:40]
Brady Quinn
Hey now.
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LaVar Arrington
It could be worse.
- [37:42]
Jonas Knox
Easy. That is true. All right.
- [37:44]
Brady Quinn
That was my super bowl pick.
- [37:46]
Jonas Knox
I don't know how you do. We needed to check your temperature.
- [37:50]
Brady Quinn
They got a talented roster. I was banging on some things happening.
- [37:53]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
And you know that. Damn.
- [37:57]
Brady Quinn
I, I am. You know, you asked why you stay in the business. I am reading an article and this is from September of last year and basically saying that the valuations of NFL teams are just astronomical at this point. So when you ask, like, why would you stand it? Because the Bengals, which I think in the past decade were not even viewed as a billion dollar franchise, are now. I think they're saying they're the cheapest franchise in the NFL, but they're being valued at like 5 billion.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, I understand the financial reasons why you would stay in it. I, I 100 understand that. I just, just feel like if you're just in it just to collect the check, that's kind of sad, man. I mean, I think at the end of the day that's, that's.
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Brady Quinn
Let's be real. We know a number of teams that are like that.
- [38:43]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
- [38:43]
Brady Quinn
Like, they're in it because it's a trophy to them. They want to make money off it too. We've heard Albert Breer talk about it. You know, we've heard Breer talk about kind of the profitability to how they run their teams, you know, versus something that the competition within the ownership groups for that. And there's some that say, no, I want to win a Super Bowl. I don't care if we make as much money. Like I want to go out there and be hoisting a Lombardi at some point. So, I mean, look, here's the deal. The league's healthy. When you have Netflix, who's now coming out saying reportedly we want an afternoon Sunday game like they want to put, they want a part of that pie. Now. You don't think they're gonna, they're willing to overspend for it?
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Jonas Knox
Sure they will.
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Brady Quinn
They've got plenty of cash. I mean, that's the reality of where the future of this game's going. With all these streaming networks that have so much cash on hand, if they really want it, they can afford to overspend. Now, long term, not a profitable venture if you can't make any money off it and ad sales and subscriptions and everything else that props it up. Right. If you can't equate to the viewership that you're, you're, it's necessary to be able to support whatever you're buying it for. But the reality is they'll at least get their foot in the door. Once they get their foot in the door, it's going to potentially allow them to take a bigger piece of the pie if some of these other TV networks, broadcast networks, can't ante up enough money for it. Once it comes time to kind of.
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LaVar Arrington
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LaVar Arrington
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Brady Quinn
There was something sentimental when you, like.
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LaVar Arrington
When you send it, it's like, do.
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Greg Tuohy
I send the heart now?
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Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
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Brady Quinn
It's extremely pink.
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Oh, man, this is fun.
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And now I definitely know what this is.
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This is fun. Let's try this one.
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Bobby Bones
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LaVar Arrington
It's the Herd, Fox Sports Radio. Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up in about 15 minutes from now, here we are going to get to the very latest information on a rumor, a hot rumor in the NFL that was started last week. That'll be yours here on fsr. A reminder though, before we get to the Hardline news, shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up. If you've missed any of today's show, be sure to check out the pod, search Heard or two Pros. Wherever you get your podcast, be sure to also follow Ray and review it again. Just search Herd or two Pros. Wherever you get your podcast. You'll see this show posted right after we get off the air.
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Jonas Knox
No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
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LaVar Arrington
This is the Herdline News and it's Greg Tuy.
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Greg Tuohy
Yeah, good morning guys. How we doing? Good to hear you today. Love it, love it. This first one here. Oh, we got.
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Jonas Knox
Get to it.
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Greg Tuohy
You go for days.
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LaVar Arrington
Let's get to it. I forgot about that one.
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Greg Tuohy
Brady and Lavar, this will be right up your alley. It may only be February, but big things are happening in college football. According to Ross Dellinger from Yahoo. Sports, momentum is building to very soon expand the College football playoff to 14 or 1616 teams right? Under this new proposal, the SEC and Big Ten will get four automatic qualifiers each.
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LaVar Arrington
Of course they will to each of.
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Greg Tuohy
The Big 12 in ACC and one to the highest ranked group of five champ. From there there would also be one or three at large bids depending if they go to 14 or 16 with one of those intended for Notre Dame should it finish ranked Inside the top 14. Other details. The SEC would finally play nine conference games in this scenario and we would see a Big Ten SEC non conference game each year among their members. The College Football Playoff committee is meeting tomorrow and finals decisions are expected in the coming weeks. But this could could go into effect in 2026.
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Jonas Knox
Of course it will.
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Greg Tuohy
So guys, are we ready for a four team or 16 playoffs so soon after just seeing it get expanded to 12 this year?
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah. Can they have it take place during the NBA season. That'd be sweet. Like, like during, like the real chunk of the playoffs. Like, you know, shots fired by.
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Greg Tuohy
I mean, we just saw it go from 4 to 12, and now it's going to go to 6, 14, or 16.
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Brady Quinn
I'll tell you guys what this is all about. It's about money. Of course, the Big Ten was able to net $46 million additionally from this year's College Football Playoff because of the number of teams they got in, obviously Ohio State, the success they had in winning the national championship. So if you actually look at how the Big Ten has been constructed in comparison to the sec, I think the SEC has more good teams. I'll just put it simply, however, because they're beating each other up, there's obviously a less likelihood of getting in as many teams. If you're the Big Ten, you've got three or four really strong teams and you've got this huge conference where you may happen to have some teams that miss some of those other good teams you might get in. Was it for this year? I got in four or five. So I guess the point is it's about money. If they expanded to 14 or 16, look at the teams who got left out. We were arguing about Alabama. We're arguing about teams like South Carolina. Those teams are probably in. So this, at the end of the day, is really about money. And if you don't think that the SEC is not going to go back to ESPN as the rights holder of their conference and go, you want us to play another conference game, we'll play nine. Okay, that's more money. And guess what? We want to surpass whatever the Big Ten is giving out to their teams each year from Fox, CBS and NBC. So that's what this is about. This is ultimately about money.
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Jonas Knox
How many more games are there for. For the teams that are playing? Like, if you add that many more teams, how many?
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Brady Quinn
Well, if it goes to 16, I mean, you're. You're just not going to have the buys for those four teams.
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Jonas Knox
It's not a buy.
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Greg Tuohy
I think the top two would get.
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Brady Quinn
Buys at a 14, not 16.
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LaVar Arrington
I'm just curious.
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Jonas Knox
I'm just curious. How much are they going to be establishing to pay to players that are playing? Because are the players just going to just keep playing or are they going to opt out if they're not making any money off of playing? I mean, I think that that's something that you got to take into consideration. Guys will opt out. I mean, I know it's the playoff. And we're saying, okay, well, guys will opt out in just a regular bowl game, but they won't opt out if you make it into the college playoff.
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LaVar Arrington
To win a national title.
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Jonas Knox
I don't know, man. I mean, how much value is there, there, there?
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Brady Quinn
Well, here's the thing, is that stuff's going to already be negotiated. I mean, we first need more clarity on how universities and schools can really pay their student athletes. If they're, like, restricted by Title 9 and they feel like they have to pay equally, men's and women's teams, it's going to throw a wrench, you know, I think what a lot of teams were assuming they could do based on that house NCAA settlement, where you've got, let's say, $21 million to spend on all your sports. The lion's share of that was going to go to football. Well, again, if Title nine comes into play, we're not. It's still not being. Has been resolved yet. Then we've got to figure out, is this all going to football or is it going to have to be divided up equally? If it is, you have to find some other ways of paying the guys. So that's going to be the biggest question. But let's just say, for example, we live in a world where the lion's share is going to football. Those contracts are most likely going to reflect maybe some bonuses or incentives, things of that nature that will, you know, allow them to be compensated for playing the additional games.
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Greg Tuohy
Interesting. And we'll wrap that up with this. According to Netflix's chief content officer, they told Puck Media that they that Netflix is interested in bidding on the NFL Sunday package in the very near future. The current broadcast Deals run through 2023. The league has the right to pull the plug a few years early in 2029. But. But, Jonas, I know you were hot on this. Like, it's crazy to think we're already here with streaming and sports leagues, isn't it?
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LaVar Arrington
Well, it's just like not that long ago, people were bitching about Amazon Prime.
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Jonas Knox
They're still bitching about it.
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LaVar Arrington
And now it's like, I'm one of them.
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Jonas Knox
I'm one of them.
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LaVar Arrington
It's gotten so much better, though.
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Jonas Knox
A little bit. Like when I watched that Jake Paul fight, or a couple things I watch. Like, the quality goes in and out sometimes. Man, I'm just being honest.
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LaVar Arrington
I thought the NFL's Netflix presentation was really well done. Netflix's NFL presentation was really well done. Much, much better than the Tyson Paul fight. I thought. I feel like they fixed a lot.
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Greg Tuohy
I mean that was a mess, right? With the streaming and everything else.
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Jonas Knox
Horrible.
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LaVar Arrington
They fixed a lot of the glitches.
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Brady Quinn
But yeah, the big concern though, it's gambling. It's always going to be the buffering with streaming and gambling. Like it's still not there yet where that's got to be figured out because otherwise people aren't gonna be able to live bet a lot of those games.
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LaVar Arrington
Well, I mean I know this. If you want some Daytona gambling advice, lead the laps. The guy man finally hit, finally hit after all these years. Congratulations.
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Jonas Knox
There was very interesting shades of gray and involved with the gambler definitely was all right.
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LaVar Arrington
Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with my wife Andrea Waters King and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.
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American Express Representative
Join us for heart conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.
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LaVar Arrington
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Brady Quinn
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jonas Knox
This is my Legacy. What if you ask two different people.
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American Express Representative
The same set of questions? Even if the questions are the same, our experiences can lead us to drastically different answers.
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Jonas Knox
I'm Minidriver and I set out to.
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American Express Representative
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Jonas Knox
7 Questions Limitless Answers hey, it's Bobby Bones.
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Bobby Bones
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