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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
1,000%, Colin. Give me Denver all day, but tonight's the big one. New York Knicks can close out the Celtics. I know what you're doing tonight for Friday night in Chicago.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes. So Denver wins at home. They force a game seven. And what these NBA playoffs have clearly illustrated the dominant regular season teams. A lot of them pretty. A lot of them. 3 ball reliant. The Cavs are out. The Celtics probably will be in. OKC is now in a game seven. We've always understood playoff basketball is more intense. But the NBA's willingness to let it be super physical has made the pretty teams pretty vulnerable. Celt Cavs both could be out by tonight. And they lived on the three. Oklahoma City's depth and blowouts and youth. They're going to a Game 7. These playoffs have had some tush push to them. Denver is a great example. Old, big, strong, tough. A lot like Minnesota, who's already in the Western Conference final. And Denver's bench, that's been the concern, right? Like it's limited. But last night, once again, Westbrook had a couple of big buckets and another Gonzaga guy stepped up when Jokic hit the bench. Julian Strother was absolutely excellent hitting shots. Again, a Gonzaga guy. But it's never been more clear. The gap between the NBA's regular season and postseason, it's wider than we thought. And we thought it was different. And a lot of this is Adam Silver just saying. Listen, I'm getting complaints. I'm hearing complaints. It's 2, 3 ball reliant. How do you change it? Let them be physical. Bang around the shooters. Scoring inside matters more. Minnesota is not relying on a 3. Pacers are not reliant on a 3. The Knicks are not reliant on a 3. Denver's not. And so now, now the Lakers and the warriors, they have that veteran playoff experience, but they don't have the size and that's their shortcoming. I think it's made for highly entertaining basketball. I thought Denver was done, but the former champions have a chin. And again, I think I like Oklahoma City in game seven. They're at home. I think they'll shoot the three ball better. But you're giving me Jokic, you're giving me Gordon, Jamal Murray was great being sick. We have the potential for a number four seed facing a number three seed in the Eastern Conference final and a four seed facing a six seed in the Western Conference final. And listen, I said during the regular season I thought the game was too pretty, there's too much scoring. I wanted more analytics, less analytics, less three ball shooting. And Adam Silver listened to me and a lot of you that were saying the same thing, let's get physical. It works. It's entertaining basketball and it's benefited the Knicks and the Pacers and Minnesota and Denver last night. Teams that don't necessarily rely on three ball shooting. We got a game seven and here's the coach of the Nuggets, David Adelman. The challenge of playing great teams, it's just being consistent mentally. And again I've said this throughout the series. What they did this year is incredible. They've earned the home court on Sunday and on the flip side, we've earned the right to go down there and the opportunity to try to beat them in a game seven. So this is what it's all about. Team that's done it all year long group in there that's hung a banner. You know, I would tune into this game. So it's interesting. The Celtics Cavs in the Thunder during the regular season averaged 120 a game. Those teams are now down to 114. And those teams were making 16 to 16 and a half three pointers a game. They're now down to 14. Well, that's, that's, that's six points. And these are close games. So again, Minnesota, the Knicks, the Pacers are physical and long. All the teams with size that aren't reliant on the three are either winning or about to win. And I think it's better basketball. I just, I've enjoy the playoffs. I like it. I've said for years, give me a mid range jumper. I just don't want 62 threes winning the NBA championship. So we saw baseball do this for years. They started tweaking and tweaking and tweaking and it was harder to score runs and stolen bases were going down. So baseball makes the base Bigger, they get rid of the defensive ship. Well, what's happening, right, there's more hits, average is going up, there's more runs, there's more base runners, there's more stolen bases. The NFL tweaked their catch. So what we, what we're seeing in real time here is the NBA during a season of three point parades saying, you know, we don't want our, we don't want our playoffs to look like that. We want our playoffs to be about veterans, stars, physicality, a little NFL tush push. And this is what you get. And I think it's been great. So yesterday, a story broke yesterday. Oh, wait, it broke a year ago. And I got crap for reporting it. Whatever. Seth Wickersham, great reporter at ESPN Reports, something we did a year ago, which is Caleb Williams, dad wasn't in love with the idea of his son being a Chicago Bear based on, you know, history and the truth. And Caleb Williams, you know, was considering his options, but eventually just said, I'll be a Bear. So. And here's the thing. This story broke yesterday when we were on the air about midway through the show. All those concerns and all those Chicago Bears hurdles turned out to be true. So where you land, you know, this is 75% of the game for a quarterback. Go look at Matt Stafford, easily the best high school quarterback in the country. Best college quarterback. Had to go 13 years to really find Sean McVay. He was 74 and 90 in Detroit, first couple of years in Los Angeles. Like, is he better than Aaron Rodgers? He's hoisting a trophy, beating Joe Burrow in the biggest game of the year. Go look at Jared Goff, 0 for 7 with defensive minded Jeff Fisherman. One year later, 11 and 4 with McVay and a passer rating in the hundreds, he looked like a bust. Sam Darnold, disaster with a defensive coach and the Jets. Well, some Adam Gase and, you know, some offense, some defense. But where you land matters, disaster in New York, struggled in Carolina, magical in Minnesota. Baker Mayfield. It's Hugh Jackson, it's Freddy Kitchens, it's Greg Williams. It's. It's. Oh, then he finds McVeigh and he finds Liam Cohen. What do you know? Baker looks like a top 12 to 13 quarterback in the NFL. He, you know, he. The bottom line in this stuff is if you start looking at your Bakers, if you start looking at Darnold, if you start looking at Goff, if you start looking at Stafford, if you start looking at all these guys, where you land matters, and that's What Caleb Williams was worried about. I mean, it's like if you were going to date a rock star and you were worried about infidelity and a wild lifestyle, that's, that's not being cynical, that's not being skeptical. Those are legitimate concerns. Now, the good news is, and we talked about this yesterday, the good news is you can rebound. You couldn't like 20 years ago if you got stuck with your first coach, you know, coaches, that may be it. Like, that's it. There are so many now, great young offensive minds, so many McVeigh copycats. You know, Kevin O' Connell, Minnesota, they call him the Tall Sean McVeigh. There are so many good offensive coaches that a Darnold or a Geno Smith or a TUA or a Jared Goff has a second chance. And I think Caleb got lucky. The Bears got rid the front office ownership, got rid of the defensive head coach and the defensive staff. They got him potentially his Sean McVay and I think Ben Johnson, much like Sean McVay or Sean Payton in Denver or Kevin Oconlon, Minnesota, what's the first thing Ben Johnson did? Clean up the offensive line for his young quarterback. Something Mike Tomlin can't do for the last decade. So I think it's going to turn out well. But I think all this stuff ask yourself when you were coming out of college, if I would have told you, yeah, there's this company that's going to choose you, they really like you, but they have 100 year history of not getting your position right. Would you not be concerned? So here's espn. Seth Wickersham, that story that broke during our show yesterday on Chicago radio, and then Ben Johnson, too. Seth, how close do you think the Williams family was to actually not being drafted by the Bears in some way, either getting out of it or having.
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Jason McIntyre
One of these plans come to fruition?
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, I think it was like, you know, the gasoline's out. Do we want to light the match? And Caleb didn't want to light the match. I see a chance for greatness here for him.
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Danny Parkins
He's been communicated that way and he feels the same way. I don't know what's going on prior to him joining the organization, but he, he is very proud to be a Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included. And he's really excited to get to.
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Colin Cowherd
Work right now and be the best.
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Danny Parkins
Version of, of himself for, for 2025.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm excited.
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Danny Parkins
That's what makes coaching fun, is when the hiccups occur, when the adversity strikes.
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Colin Cowherd
How do we respond to it?
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Danny Parkins
That's. That's when you find out who you.
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Colin Cowherd
Are as a man. For the record, one year from now, Arch Manning. I just read a story about Arch Manning. He's put on like 8 to 10 pounds or some muscle is really worked on his mechanics. Arch Manning is going to be the number one pick in the draft. And you know, if you asked him privately, you know where he'd want to go? The Rams, who have two first round picks, but they're going to be too good and they have Atlanta's first round pick. And Atlanta probably wins a lot of games in the weak division, so they probably won't have the ammo to move up to get Arch Manning. Privately though, that's where he wants to go. He would love to go to them. Not Cleveland, who also has two first round picks. It's nothing against Kevin Stavanski, but you got Pickett and Shedeur and Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco. It's a circus. Johnny Manziel, you passed on Mahomes. It's a circus. So like it's. And I think everybody watching or listening to the show understands it. Sports can be incredibly cruel. The harder you work coming out of college as an athlete, the worst organization you often go to. Cross your fingers on Ben Johnson. I do think him activating the front office with the Bears and going heavy in O line investments. Joe Tunney, Drew Dolman is a great sign. First thing Sean Payton did in Denver for Bo Nix, get the o line. Right. McVay. First thing he did from Jeff Fisher. Andrew Whitworth, left tackle from the Bengals. So that was the first thing he did. Let's go get the offensive line. Right. That bodes very well for Caleb Williams, but I have no problem with his dad's skepticism or his as well. All right. J. Mac tonight is huge. The Knicks. Now Boston's a weird team. J. Mac. It is historically weird. Their net rating is better without Jason Tatum. It's cr. I know, it's crazy. I. What's the line? I would guess the Knicks are favored by one or two. I like the Knicks tonight. Do you?
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Jason McIntyre
So, yes, I do like the Knicks. They will win. That being said, this whole idea that the Celtics net rating is better without Tatum, like we need more context. Who are they playing? You know, are. Are some other Celtics missing? I think this. That game was less about Tatum, the last one, more about the move to put Luke Cornett in the game in the second half for Porzingis, who gave him nothing. Luke Cornett had seven blocks, Colin. There's videos online where he's guarding three and four people. Joe Missoula finally got off his hands and did something. It was a genius move. But I, I still like the Knicks tonight. Garden going to be a nice scene there. Very excited for my Knicks advancing.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it'll obviously the biggest Knicks game in I mean, however long and if they win three. Yeah, I mean it, it's, it's. But I mean you're, it's. The Knicks history has been greater than the Knicks recent history. Their, their, their valuation as a team has always been greater than their productivity and results. But the, the world of basketball is. It's Madison Square Garden tonight. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio app Summer is almost here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. Now, what do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A day at the lake? That's a no. A Philly cheesesteak? That's a yes. A nice tan. Sorry. A box fan? Happily, yes. What about a day of sunshine? Not happening. How about a box of fine wines? Yeah, that's happening. Delivery's on its way. 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The NBA does well. The WNBA just did an anonymous poll. You don't have to put your name on it. And the truth finally came out. Caitlin Clark voted on by general managers the best point guard, the best shooting guard, and the singular player they would start the franchise with in the weird, insular wnba. This has been a real struggle. You know the truth. So once you could be honest about it, and that's, I guess, what you have to be anonymously in the wnba. And there's these people who are fans of indie bands, international soccer and the wnba. They have this gatekeeping mentality. We'll tell you who's great, Colin. I was watching the WNBA long before Caitlin Clark. Well, yeah, it's not my problem. Your social life was boring. I'm not going to apologize for watching it when it got really interesting. And I've said this about Steph Curry. I love Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler and pods. But if you take Steph Curry out of the warriors, they're kind of boring. And if you take Caitlin Clark out of the WNBA and her team, it's not the same. She's packing now, larger arenas. She's taking and making shots nobody's ever done in the history of the sport. She is Steph Curry. I mean, there's a reason the NBA puts Steph Curry on Christmas. And privately, the NBA was Steph Curry out of the playoffs. Knows Minnesota's not going to get the same number. WNBA players weirdly have been fighting growth. Stop fighting the truth. Get out of your own way. It is a bad look. She is a fascinating player and it must be exhausting hating new cool things. I mean, here's what's funny. When Steph Curry entered the NBA, you didn't hear any of this. Whoa, slow down. You know what you heard, bro. I can take those shots now. Steph Curry opened up the floor for other guys in shooting. Big guys started practicing their threes. Forward started practicing their threes. He opened up opportunities. And never forget the warriors valuation was $315 million before we got there. The latest valuation is 8.2 billion. That's not just Draymond and pods. I'm gonna tell you that. Steph Curry. That's Steph Curry. The WNBA flew commercial flights before she played a game. They went to privatized flights. Okay, that's Caitlin Clark. Only Caitlin Clark. So Just, just promote it, market it. Ride the best wave this league has ever had. Doesn't mean, it doesn't mean they haven't had great players. It doesn't mean they don't have other really great players. But you get these comments, you get these unique unicorns. That's what she is. And once you went to an Anonymous poll, the GMs are like, yep, that's who you'd start the franchises with. That's the best point guard, that's the best shooting guard. That's the best thing we have. It's been obvious for everybody except a big chunk of WNBA players. Here's J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news.
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Danny Parkins
This is the Herd line news.
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Jason McIntyre
Right, Colin, let's start with the New York Giants. We ridiculed them for that brutal schedule yesterday. Well, Giants GM Joe Shane took his quarterback of the future Jackson Dart in the draft and he talked to K. Adams about why he felt the Giants back room can lead Dart to success in the NFL.
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Colin Cowherd
Any player that we take, it's a collaborative process and it's very detailed and we believe in it. So, no, Jackson's a guy that was on the radar throughout the fall. We were able to see play live, spend a lot of time with him at the Senior bowl, you know, as well this spring. And then you throw in a Mike Kafka who was there for Patrick Mahomes rookie year where he only played one game and he got to see that development and Che Tierney, our quarterback coach. So three coaches on staff that have been a part of, you know, the development of two pretty good quarterbacks in the league right now.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, sure.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, he'll play this year.
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Jason McIntyre
Oh, really?
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Colin Cowherd
How much? I think you'll see him. I mean, it's. By the way, I read a story today where Russell Wilson was fully engaged and aware that the Giants were going to move up and take a quarterback. So he's going to play. And I, and I. If you look at their schedule, it's crazy. It is unbelievable. The Giant schedule compared to the Niners. It's two different sports like the Giant schedule if they play well. I mean, look at this. Playoff. Washington at Dallas. Playoff. Kansas City. Playoff. Chargers. Oh, they get a breather. But they're at the Saints, which is a tough place to play. Super bowl winning. Philadelphia. Playoff. Denver playoff. Philly. You know, the Niners are going to be better than last year. So I mean, it's. This is a. I, I do not remember a schedule through 12 weeks of my life that was this this is a brutal schedule for a good team.
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Jason McIntyre
Do you think they might not be favored in any game next season? I don't, I don't know that they're definitely favored against the Saints on the road. It's possible, maybe, but other than that, like they're going to be an underdog in every single game. That's a death knell.
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Colin Cowherd
Jackson Darts playing and Jackson dart this team. Listen, the bottom line is Brian Dable has to win games. If Russell's not win, my guess is they go 04 to start the year and you may give Russell Wilson the Saints game. Or as a staff, you're like, let's give Jackson Dart the only easy game on our schedule.
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Jason McIntyre
There's a world where Russell Wilson works with his deep ball down the sideline to Malik Neighbors. We just out jump everybody. I mean, maybe they're competitive. I just, I don't see it. All right, let's move on to the NBA. Colin, I kind of found this comical, but there's a report that says the Houston Rockets really want Giannis. They're considering trading Alprens Sengun in a package for Giannis. Let me just get the wording for you. The Rockets would consider. The report goes on to say Milwaukee said, yeah, but we'd rather have Jalen Green and Jabari Smith than Sengun. I this is going to be such a fun off season in the NBA and I do think the Rockets and Giannis make perfect sense.
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Colin Cowherd
First of all, Sengoon's an All Star at 22 and has a defined offensive game. Jabari Smith and Jalen Green are just athletic. Green to this point's lost offensively. So if that's what Milwaukee wants, by all means, give it to them. If you could keep Shen Goon in a trade for Giannis, that's nuts. That's the one guy in the roster I'd want.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, the only problem with that, Colin, is then you have two, two non shooters on the floor. Giannis ain't a three point shooter, neither is Sengun. So you've got a packed lane if you are able to move off Sengun. Could you find a stretch five, a center who shoots threes, a Lori Markin.
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Colin Cowherd
And just someone I think Sengun can develop into a nice, I don't know his numbers in front of me. He's got a feathery, beautiful touch. He can hit 18 footers. I don't. Shen Goon's a really nice classic European, smart, can shoot, highly skilled, nice touch. I mean, if I'm Milwaukee, everything starts with that I don't want to be saddled with Jalen Green trying to teach him how to play offensive half court basketball.
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Jason McIntyre
Listen, at some point you need a guy who can get a bucket. But the other thing is, remember Giannis didn't really make the jump to lightspeed until they unlocked Lopez as a three point shooter. And then it was like, oh my gosh, look at all this space in the lane. We got Middleton, we got Lopez and Giannis just diving and scoring at will. So this is good. Just going to be fascinating to watch. My only thing, Colin, if you're Giannis or you're in his camp, do you tell him? Listen, man, I know the Rockets look appealing, I know the spurs do. If you stay east, you've got a better shot to get to the finals because the west is beyond loaded.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you know Pete Carroll is telling Chip Kelly, yes, we have Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid in our division, but you're going to have to face them in the playoffs eventually anyway. So why not get their playbooks, you know, why not play them twice and know exactly what they are? You're going to have to play them eventually so we won't get caught off guard. And my take is, you know, if you're Giannis, it's not about getting to the playoffs, it's about winning titles. Well, you're going to have to play those teams anyway. And by the way, the Knicks aren't going to be a pushover, the Celtics aren't going anywhere, Indiana looks tough. So the bottom line is if he wants to go where it's warm, no state tax and a team that can win a title if, if I don't have to give up Sengun and I can get Giannis. Wow. I mean the two players, I'm Houston, I don't want to give up Amen Thompson and Shanghu, you could have everybody else and picks but though if I could keep those two and get Giannis, you are a championship level team next year.
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Jason McIntyre
That's a good point. Final story, Colin. Oh boy, here we go with your favorite guy, Bill Belichick. He was on the morning show Good Morning America today talking with Michael Strahan. And Bill Belichick, while promoting his book was asked about his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson. Take it away, Bill.
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Colin Cowherd
What did Jordan mean to you? Well, we have good personal relationship, you know. I'm not talking about personal relationships, Michael, you know that she's been terrific, you know, through the whole process and she's been very helpful to me. She does the business things that don't relate to North Carolina. That come up in my life so I can concentrate on football and that's really what I want to do. Yeah, see, that doesn't bother me at all. That's what, you know, she helps him with a little bit. You know, it's hoodie and the hashtag. She helps him with all the social stuff and he does his. By the way, Belichick at this point has massive real estate. He's, he's got a lot of stuff going on in his life. A book, she can do all that stuff.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I just want. Colin, how much of this, this storyline has become about jealousy? You got a 75 year old, whatever, Belichick, 70 year old guy with like a 25 year old hot chick who's in beauty pageants. Is there some jealousy out there around this story or.
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Colin Cowherd
I think the family's concerns to me are very transparent when they say they're worried about Bill and they're worried about the will. You know, Bill is not, he is not. Again, he's not an old man, a feeble old man. People that are 70 and that like, like Nick Saban, when you've been making 10 to 15 million dollars a year, you're getting better healthcare, you're eating better, you're, you have people doing all the DMV stuff you're just doing, I mean, honestly, you're playing a lot of golf, you're doing your job, you're eating better than the average person. It's like when people say, oh, the western diet. You only live to be 68. If you're making the kind of money Belichick is, you have assistants doing the tedious stuff again. Nutrition, medical, you're, you're, it's different life. He's 73, the average American. He's probably healthier than the average 63.
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Jason McIntyre
That's great, Colin. I hear that. And then if you're in his family and you read these articles that all of a sudden this girl dating Bill Belichick all of a sudden has a massive real estate portfolio in eight months. Whoa, whoa, what's going on here? Well, he gets swindled. I, I don't, I'm not saying that. You just have to ask these questions if you're the family.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I, I, I don't think a girlfriend having a duplex in Cape Town means Belichick swindled.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, what about three of them?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, he's got a place in Jupiter, Florida, a place in Nantucket. He's got a hundred million dollars of real estate. Boats. Ooh. She's got a, she's got a town home on the cape. I, I don't, I just, I'm sorry. It just, it's Bill's 200 million dollar net worth. She's got a 7 million dollar net worth. I'm okay with it.
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Jason McIntyre
She has a 7 million dollar net worth. Out of the blue. Her net worth two years ago was zero and now it's seven. But again, I don't really care. My favorite thing is this whole the money aspect. I'm sure you've heard all these gurus online. Oh, money's not gonna make you happy. You know what, give me some of your money and we'll, then we'll talk about it.
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Colin Cowherd
Right?
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Jason McIntyre
Like, I mean, it's just silly. Like, of course she's going to be thrilled.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, when you were young, her parents had a business, the business went bankrupt. She's young, she's beautiful, she's ambitious. Let's just, let's be honest, guys who are young, from divorced families, ambitious, been doing this forever. Like a young woman does it. Everybody's like, whoa. It's like, guys, this is what kids come a little turbulence in their life. They have an opportunity. Sometimes you move, sometimes it's a relationship, whatever. Ambitious young people find their way. If it's through a relationship, I'm okay with.
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Jason McIntyre
I'll reserve the. I'm just going to stand down on this. I'll let your words do the talking.
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Colin Cowherd
J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. So, you know, it's in my lifetime there have only been three athletes that have been like historically hyped and then over delivered. Ohtani is one of them. Bobblehead night last night he had two Jacks. So the three athletes are Tiger Woods, LeBron James and Ohtani. I mean think about LeBron James. He surpassed Magic Johnson in assists and Kareem in points. Tiger woods, nobody ever won four consecutive majors. He did. It's called the Tiger Slam. So I mean when you're, when you're surpassing Magic and Kareem and Jack Nicholas, like that's, that's, and that's what we have here. It's, it's totally accepted now. He's better than Babe Ruth. I mean some guys break records. He's rewriting the book. I mean he's got 15 home runs over 10 stolen bases, 45 runs scored in 25 walks through 42 games. Never been done. And it's just so interesting. Like last night and he hasn't he wants to pitch for the Dodgers and contractually the organization, they probably don't want him to. They're in first place without it. But there's so many pitching injuries. And we'll talk that about Dave Roberts. Baseball's as three times as many Tommy John surgeries today as like 10, 15 years ago. There's a lot of reasons for it. Velocity is everything. You know, injuries are all over baseball, pitching staffs. The Dodgers are a great illustration of that. So I think privately they, they probably would rather just, can you just hit and drive in runs? They don't want to risk the injury. But I mean, I think contractually they've kind of agreed if he's going to be a Dodger, he's going to pitch and he wants to pitch. But last night, two home runs, six RBIs. Classic Ohtani on bobblehead night. He's by far and away the most productive player. And here's home run number one on a two zero. Ohtani launches the ball the other way, headed towards the seats. It is gone. A three run home run from Shohei Ohtani. Ten runs for the Dodgers in three innings. On a team that is completely stacked, the Dodgers batting order is an all star team this year. First in runs. He had a little slump. He had, I think he had his first child. He didn't, you know, for a couple of weeks. Obviously distracted. But he's, I mean, on a team that's got speed, power, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, first, second, third. You know, he's just, he's just a remarkable, he. Tiger woods and LeBron. I know LeBron's got his critics and we thought he was going to be really good. We didn't think he was going to surpass the Skyhook and Magic Johnson and still going and still a top 10 player. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in.
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Danny Parkins
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He knows his Chicago sports. So Seth Wickersham, very respected guy, comes out and you know he's writing a book on the history of quarterbacks and all of a sudden here's Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams. Dad, I. I really defended Caleb and I said, you know, years ago, if your first team stunk, you were really behind the eight ball. Now, golf tua, Baker Darnold, Gino. There's so many good offensive coaches that you do get second and third opportunities. Baker Mayfield now crushing it. So I think Caleb's going to be fine. But what was your takeaway on some of the comments by Caleb and his dad about the Bears before they became Bears?
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Danny Parkins
Well, first of all, you are all over this. You were reporting this well before the draft that Caleb and his camp had some concerns about the Bears. And, you know, when Carl Williams said, this is where Chicago's where quarterbacks go to die, I think there were about a million Bears fans in the Chicago metro area who were like, yep, we know. Yeah, that's about as relatable.
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Colin Cowherd
Thank you.
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Danny Parkins
Like that scene in Wolf of Wall Street. One of us, one of us, one of us. Like, it would have been like if a Chicago cub was like, you know, I believe curses before 2016. Like, we're well aware that that's where quarterbacks go to die. I thought Caleb was maybe like 10% too honest with Seth Wickersham. I respect the fact that he owned up to it. I don't think he needed to say that he had his hand on the nuclear button for the nuclear option. He's like, yeah, I was considering nuking the city. Probably not necessary. You could have just been said, you know, I was, you know, evaluating all of my options, and I'm thrilled to be a Bear. But the thing about it was, was that all of the concerns Colin ended up being justified. They fired Shane Waldron nine games into the year. And Caleb Williams said he was watching film alone and had never been taught how to watch film. So it explains why it was such a disaster last season.
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Colin Cowherd
Now, again, Tua defensive coach T.O. mcDaniels made a pro Bowl. I mean, Greg Williams, Hugh Jackson, Freddy Kitchens to McVay. And Liancom transformed Baker's life. Goff Fisher to McVeigh. One of the things that's been noteworthy. Kevin O' Connell did this. Sean Payton did it in Denver immediately. And this is one of the things. McVeigh did it in LA with Andrew Whitworth. It's a very encouraging sign. The really good offensive coaches can solve offensive lines. Andy Reid, McVeigh in an off season. They don't even need a season. They need an off season. So my take on Ben Johnson is he gets it their. Their money and. And focus on the O line. I don't think people understand how good Dolman and Tuney are. Like in NFL circles, those are like very respected players. So I think, I say, I think Chicago is a wild card team. Or is that overly optimistic?
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Danny Parkins
No, it's not overly optimistic at all. It's a, it's a tough schedule. The win total in Vegas is eight and a half. But they upgraded left guard, center, right guard, nose tackle, defensive end, tight end, one or two, depending on how you value. Cole Comet, wide receiver, three head coach and play caller all in one off season. That's pretty substantial. That's pretty good. There's always going to be more pressure on the hall of Famers who have been paid, who haven't won a Super Bowl. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. But Caleb Williams is going to be very high up on those lists of who's under the most pressure to perform this year. Because you can look at the Bears roster and say, okay kid, time's yours. Like, what do the Bears not have at this point? They've done everything right. After sabotaging his rookie year, there's a.
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Colin Cowherd
Lot of things to take away from the NFL schedule. I thought the Chargers between Brazil all these short weeks against Detroit Buffalo. Why the Chargers get this cookie dough soft middle of the schedule. I had predicted. I think they're going to pull back. They're on the margins anyway right now. They enter the season with kind of a sketchy O line, which is the only thing that's ever undone. That's been the only kryptonite for Mahomes, has been like left tackle or O line issues. So I do think they'll pull back and be like a 10, 11 win team. Not a dominant, not a dominant operation. Is there something about the schedule that jumped out to Danny Parkins?
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Danny Parkins
Well, last year we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers, how they needed to get off to a strong start because the end of the season schedule was so brutal. That's the Dallas Cowboys this year. And I know, okay, America's team, they're going to be on national tv. No one's crying for the Cowboys, but it's literally historic. Week 12 through week 17, they play every team on their schedule, won 11 or more games last year. They play on Thanksgiving, they play on Christmas and there's two four day breaks. Like they have four days off between the Eagles and Chiefs. I'm not, I don't have the greatest memory in the world, but those two teams were in the super bowl last year. Like that's, that's fairly difficult. Then Four days off between Chargers and Commanders. With that Commander's game, being on the road is remarkably difficult. So I. We knew the opponents ahead of time, but I thought the sequencing for Dallas was absolutely brutal to finish the season.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, the Knicks game tonight can be one of two things. Historically great or a nightmare. I like them tonight, kind of your forecast, you're. You're in the city. Your forecast for what we see tonight in an interesting series, I think the.
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Danny Parkins
First quarter is going to tell us a lot. You know, this is objectively the biggest game at Madison Square Garden since the conference finals in 2000. New York is a basketball town. Just ask a New Yorker. The Knicks are the one thing that really, truly unites the city because, you know, Mets and Yankees, all the different hockey teams, jets and Giants, that's fairly well understood. Whether you've spent a day here, an hour here, or years and years, your entire life here. It's a Knicks town. But Colin, you know, this 3:1 can get spun two different ways. If you. There's. It's happened 13 times in NBA history. A team came back from down 3:1 or a team collapsed from being up 3:1 when LeBron came back from down 3:1 against the Warriors. It's the single most impressive thing I've ever seen in basketball. He does it against the super team. He leads both teams in all five statistical categories. That was framed as a comeback with Tatum rupturing his Achilles. If the Knicks lose, this will be a choke. Now, maybe if Boston ends up winning the title, history will be a little bit kinder to it. But in the immediate aftermath, this will go up there as a. One of the great chokes in NBA playoff history and one of the great chokes in New York sports history. You remember, of course, 04, Yankees, Red Sox. That's down 3 0. They come back the bloody sock game. Dave Roberts with the steal, Big Poppy, the mvp, Johnny Damon, the grand slam. Three one is not as bad as three. Oh. But when the star player on the Celtics ruptures his Achilles, I'll just say the Knicks better come out hot in the first quarter tonight or that's going to be a very, very tense building over at the world's most famous arena.
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Colin Cowherd
I know this is. It happened almost a week ago. I didn't get your take on this. Nick and I were aligned on this. I'm not. Listen, if the NBA was going to rig things, they wouldn't have Zion going to the Pelicans and Wemby going to the Spurs. What do you make of all the Cooper flag, Dallas Maverick rig talk, I think it's ridiculous, but I am in the minority.
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Danny Parkins
Apparently, you're not in the minority. This is an Internet creation. Everything is a conspiracy on the Internet. It's not enough to be a. Journalists were in the room, and then the NBA is like, okay, here's the video of the ping pong balls coming out. And people are like, yeah, you edited it. Like, I don't. I honestly, like, don't know what people need to see to believe. Like, can you reverse engineer it? Yeah, of course. But if. Let's. Let's say the spurs would have won the lottery, you don't think people would have said, oh, it's rigged? They want to take care of Greg Popovich as he transitions to his role as president of basketball operations, and they need Victor Wembanyama to be good. So, like, Philadelphia, big market, Chicago, big market. You can always attach a conspiracy to the back end of an outlier event. And 1.8% is an outlier event, but it's not impossible. It's 1.8%. So of course it's not rigged. It's objectively ridiculous. It is a little upsetting. Like, I will say that Nico Harris, Nico Harrison didn't deserve it.
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Colin Cowherd
Right?
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Danny Parkins
Like, Mavs fans deserve it. But the thing that I. More so than the it was rigged talk, I thought the most, like, objectionable thing was, like, Nico Harrison gets the last laugh. Why?
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Colin Cowherd
Because.
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Danny Parkins
Because ping balls bounced his way. Like, to me, that was actually a worse take than it was rigged.
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Colin Cowherd
Great stuff. Danny Parkins from Chicago now in New York. FS1. Great seeing you, buddy. Have a good weekend.
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Danny Parkins
Let's talk. Anytime, Colin. Thank you.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. Danny's really interesting. I try to get him on the volume as much as I can. Good storyteller. Lot of background history in Chicago. Yeah, it's. It's. I just, you know, it's. I've said this before. Bill Parcells used to say, don't draft a celebrity quarterback. But, you know, the world changed. They're all celebrities now. I mean, Shador Sanders is going to be a celebrity now. What you do with that celebrity? Arch Manning's a celebrity. That's why he's been so understated. He won't talk. He's hiding because he knows he's already going to be viewed as a Manning and a celebrity. Shador Sanders leaned into it, turned people off. Caleb leaned into it, turned some off. But he was so talented that he went number one. At worst, he was going to go two to Jaden Daniels. So, you know, I I think Caleb Williams is the reality of what you're going to see going forward. You're going to see you're going to get big star quarterbacks. They're going to get paid. I just read a story this morning driving to work. I think, I think Arch Manning is going to make $6 million this year at Texas. Like that's the new reality. That's what they make. That's more than rookie quarterbacks are going to make in many instances, in most instances, because about 12 to 13 quarterbacks get drafted a year. Eleven of those 12 or 12 of those 13 are not going to make $6 million. So Annette and I also think that benefits college football in the NFL that some of these quarterbacks that could come out may stay an extra year. You know, Andrew Luck could have come out stayed an extra year. Peyton Manning, like I the nil. To me, the I don't know if it was an intended benefit or not. The benefit is stay in college another year as a college basketball or college football player and just get better coaching and be more mature when you come out in season. Hour 2 Dave Roberts, Dodger manager Next Interested in investing in Bitcoin but not sure how to get started. Well, with the Gemini Credit card you can dip your toes into Bitcoin without even trying. Just spend like you normally do groceries, gas or a night out and instantly earn up to 4% back in Bitcoin or one of over 50 other cryptos straight to your account with no annual fee. The Gemini Credit card is pretty much a no brainer and right now you can grab a 200 bitcoin intro bonus. So go to gemini.com card to learn more and start earning today. Terms apply. Again. Go to gemini.com card start building your Bitcoin stash now. Terms apply. The Gemini Credit Card is issued by Web Bank. In order to Qualify for the Intro 200 crypto bonus, your application must be approved by June 30, 2025 and spend $3,000 in your first 90 days. Terms apply. Some exclusions apply to Instant Rewards in which rewards are deposited when the transaction posts this content is not investment advice and trading Crypto involves risk. For more details on rates, fees and other Gemini credit card terms, see Rates and Fees.
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Danny Parkins
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Colin Cowherd
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Danny Parkins
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Colin Cowherd
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Danny Parkins
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Colin Cowherd
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Danny Parkins
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