wavePod

Get Wave AI

Hour 1 - Stop trying to make Bronny James a thing - The Herd with Colin Cowherd | Wave AI Podcast Notes

Back to The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Hour 1 - Stop trying to make Bronny James a thing

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Wed Jan 29 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 1: Stop Trying to Make Bronny James a Thing

Release Date: January 29, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Episode Title: Stop Trying to Make Bronny James a Thing

1. Introduction to the Episode

In the premiere hour of "Stop Trying to Make Bronny James a Thing," Colin Cowherd delves into the controversial decision by the Los Angeles Lakers to promote Bronny James, LeBron James' son, to the NBA roster. The discussion centers on the implications of this move for both Bronny and the NBA at large.

2. Main Discussion

a. Bronny James’ Promotion to the Lakers

Colin Cowherd initiates the conversation by criticizing the Lakers' decision to rush Bronny James into the NBA after an impressive performance in the G League.

"So last night, AD got hurt. Lakers went into the tank, got blown out by Philadelphia... I have confidence in him. You did not put him in a tough spot. He is 1 for 16 in the NBA from the floor..."
[03:03] – Colin Cowherd

Cowherd emphasizes that Bronny, a 6'2" guard, lacks the necessary skills and consistency to compete at the NBA level, highlighting his poor performance metrics.

"He has not scored in 38 minutes on the floor. But J.J. Redick, instead of just being honest, pandered. He is a 6’2” guard that can’t shoot in a league where 7’4” guys can. He’s not an NBA player."
[06:15] – Colin Cowherd

b. Comparison to NFL’s Handling of Players

The discussion shifts to a comparison between the NBA and NFL, with Cowherd praising the NFL's straightforward approach to player evaluation and accountability.

"The NFL is a serious league. The games matter. It's adults, it's men. It's real conversations. Can we stop pretending on this? Come on, let's just stop pretending."
[09:30] – Colin Cowherd

Cowherd argues that the NFL maintains a level of professionalism and directness that the NBA lacks, particularly in holding players accountable without pandering to star players.

c. Mike McCarthy’s Coaching Search

The conversation transitions to NFL coach Mike McCarthy, who is withdrawing from the coaching search for the New Orleans Saints and instead looking for a job in 2026.

"Mike McCarthy is officially pulling his name out of the coaching search in New Orleans... I think McCarthy dodged a bullet here big time."
[32:33] – Colin Cowherd

Cowherd critiques the Saints' organizational issues, suggesting that McCarthy’s decision is prudent given the team's lack of cap space and quarterback instability.

d. NFL Draft Analysis with Daniel Jeremiah’s Mock Draft

Colin and J. Mac delve into Daniel Jeremiah's NFL mock draft, questioning Jeremiah’s unconventional choices, such as prioritizing running backs over quarterbacks and top receivers.

"You can't take Abdul Carter first. You cannot. You have to take a quarterback. So what are you going to do? Tell me the game plan so Callahan keeps his job."
[35:21] – Colin Cowherd

Cowherd expresses skepticism about Jeremiah’s selections, particularly criticizing the decision to prioritize running backs like Ashton Genti and Abdul Carter over more critical positions like quarterback.

e. Additional Sports Insights

The duo also touches upon various other sports topics, including the performance and management of other NFL teams, the role of head coaches, and the dynamics of player development in professional leagues.

"Shador Sanders is a real player. He has Shadour going six to the Raiders. We know he wants to go to the Raiders... He goes to the Raiders because they need a quarterback, a receiver, and a back."
[37:02] – Colin Cowherd

Cowherd highlights potential moves in the NFL, advocating for strategic acquisitions that address team needs rather than following media hype.

3. Notable Quotes

"You can't fool the pro athletes. They know the stars, they know the soft spots, they know the weaknesses."
[03:03] – Colin Cowherd
"The NFL is a serious league. The games matter. It's adults, it's men. It's real conversations."
[09:30] – Colin Cowherd
"Mike McCarthy dodged a bullet here big time."
[32:33] – Colin Cowherd
"You can't take Abdul Carter first. You cannot. You have to take a quarterback."
[35:21] – Colin Cowherd

4. Conclusion

In this episode, Colin Cowherd presents a critical perspective on the NBA's handling of young talent, specifically targeting the Lakers' decision to promote Bronny James prematurely. By contrasting the NBA with the NFL’s more pragmatic approach to player management and team building, Cowherd advocates for greater accountability and strategic decision-making within professional sports leagues. The episode serves as a call to action for sports organizations to prioritize genuine talent and long-term success over hype and nepotism.

5. Additional Notes

For listeners who missed the episode or wish to revisit specific segments, notable discussions occur between the 3:00 and 40:00-minute marks, where the core analysis and debates take place.

This summary encapsulates the primary discussions and viewpoints presented in the first hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," providing a comprehensive overview for those who have yet to listen.

Loading summary...

Transcript

Colin Cowherd (0:00)

You can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com heap and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device, credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption. Acquired card has no cash access and expires in six months. Banking with Capital One helps you keep more money in your wallet with no fees or minimums on checking accounts and no overdraft fees. Just ask the Capital One bank guy. It's pretty much all he talks about in a good way. He'd also tell you that this podcast is his favorite podcast too. Oh really? Thanks Capital One Bank Guy. What's in your wallet? Terms apply see capitalone.com bank capital1na member FDIC Ah, and here we have travelers in their natural habitat enjoying guaranteed 4pm checkout at fine hotels and resorts booked through AMEX Travel.

Bobby Bones (1:12)

And they don't even see what's coming at them.

Colin Cowherd (1:14)

We're in. We got the table. Yep. With Resi priority notify they're alerted when hard to get. Reservations open up. Reservation for 2mm Save the best for last thanks to AMEX Platinum, the last day vacation brings yet another experience that's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply learn more@americanexpress.com with Amex.

Bobby Bones (1:33)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (2:04)

Thanks for listening to the Heard Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Wednesday live in Los Angeles. It's the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching, listening. Andy Reid, coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, joining us in one hour from now, unfortunately, I'll have to do the interview. J. Mac, Andy, you know, we couldn't trust J. Mac with interviewing Andy Reid.

Colin Cowherd (3:03)

So there's an old saying in pro sports. You can't fool the players, okay? You can't fool the pro athletes. They know the stars, they know the soft spots, they know, they know the weaknesses. So last night, AD Got hurt. Lakers went into the tank, got blown out by Philadelphia. Well, the Lakers had recently called up Bronnie. Well, Bronnie had his best game as a G leaguer, so of course, let's rush him to the Lakers. So he got on the floor last night. You can't fool the players. Tyrese Maxey went right after him and cooked him. And it's just amazing in the NFL, media, coaches, fans, anybody, you can have real grown up conversations. You can hold players accountable. There's no walking on eggshells. There's a way to measure success in the NBA. You have to pretend that Bronny's an NBA player because otherwise you'll upset the king. So he has a good G league game. Guys go off in G league all the time, doesn't mean anything. And they get him to the Lakers and they want to play him. And remember, he is a 62 guard. That's a non point guard. I've never seen that existing in the current NBA and go back 20 years to be a two guard. Six, four and a half minimum. Got to be able to shoot some, be a playmaker some. He's 6 2, got cooked on defense and has not scored in 38 minutes on the floor. 38 minutes as a pro is the last time he got a basket. But J.J. redick, instead of just being honest, pandered. Here he is, maybe put him in a tough spot, you know, flying up yesterday and you know, naturally tell by his game and Philly and all that stuff. It's, you know, he didn't play well, but he's been playing great, you know, in the stay ready games and he's been playing great in the G. So I have confidence in him. You did not put him in a tough spot. He is 1 for 16 in the NBA from the floor, over seven on threes and can't be a point guard and got cooked defensively. Let's just be totally honest about this. He's a 6, 2 guard that can't shoot in a league where 7 foot 4 guys can. He's not an NBA player. He was not a great high school player. He was a good high school player. He wasn't a good college player. He was a college player and he's not an NBA player. And he may be a great kid. I'm sure he is. LeBron's a nice guy. I've met him. But this is what gets 57 million people watch the NFL this weekend. It's tough men, emotionally and physically that you can have real conversations with. Can we stop pretending on this? Come on, let's just stop pretending. This was not a tough spot. Tyrese Max, he's a great player. And cooked him. And you rushed him up because, hey, he had a good G League game. Oh, God. This is what the Clippers have done with Kawhi Leonard. It's been years of pandering. Embiid in Philadelphia, the babysitting in New Orleans was Zion. In the NBA, they had to ban phones from players during games. They were using them at halftime timeouts. They had to ban players from using phones during games. You don't have to do that with grownups. They understand. They're at work, they're going to work hard. And I think of the many reasons the NFL is separated from the NBA is the NFL is a serious league. The games matter. It's adults, it's men. It's real conversation. Like there's no pandering. We're not going to see Jalen hurts, son. You know, wedged into the Eagles to play running back. No, it's Saquon Barkley. He's better than anybody. And I think this goes back to some of the issues the NBA has. Not a single NBA reporter would even touch this with a ten foot pole. I mean, this thing. What are we doing here? Nice kid, maybe a G league player, but 38 minutes on the floor, hasn't scored a basket. He's a 6 2, non ball handling guard. What are we doing? What are we pretending? Grown up conversations. Don't be terrified. Walk on eggshells. I've seen it time and time again. Last night, came in three turnovers, 0 for 5. Look terrified, nervous. And the Sixers, you can't fool players. Went right after him. You can't fool players. When the red light comes on, you know who can do it and who can't. This continues to be an unserious story. What you don't want to become is an unserious league. The NFL, you take it Seriously, because they take it seriously. They don't have to ban phones from their players. Irritating. Okay, so if you didn't see it, and I know you're busy, the Jerry Jones Schottenheimer press conference, by all accounts, was so weird. I went home yesterday and watched big chunks of it. So weird. So Dak Prescott said yesterday, hey, my future is tied to Brian Schottenheimer, the new coach. And you know that's a major red flag in real estate. It's about two things. Great location, great kitchen, you'll always sell the home. Location's great, kitchen's great. Rest of the house can be a tire fire, it doesn't matter. You'll sell the home. The NFL is a head coach quarterback league. You can be bad at linebacker, you don't have to have a great offensive line. You can be weak at safety. You don't have have to have an elite corner. It doesn't matter. Head coach is great. Coach is great. You're going to be really good. There are eight combos in the NFL right now that I would consider elite head coach quarterback combo. I don't understand one of them, but there are eight that you can't deny you're getting a really good quarterback and a really good coach, and you can figure it out. Reed and Mahomes, McVeigh and Stafford, both Harbaughs with Lamar and Justin. Matt LeFleur, Jordan Love, Sean McDermott. Josh, you may not love Jordan Love or Sean McDermott, but they're good. Dan Campbell, Jared Goff, Nick Ceriani, Hertz. I can't explain Nick Ceriani. I can't explain his success. I'm not going to try to. His methodology is weird, but the guy wins and they love him and the players love him and so be it. And that's. That's the eight teams. Eight for eight, by the way, in the playoffs. And just ask yourself, where does Schottenheimer and Dak fit in the league? If. If that's the elite eight, where do they fit? Two things are true. Schottenheimer didn't call plays for a 710 team and was given the job. That's strange. And Dak is coming off a second lower body injury and he got worse after the last one. So I. I'm not. I mean, I know Dak Schottenheimer is better than Derek Carr with no coach, and I think it's better than Will Levis and Brian Callahan, but if you gave me Dave Canales and Bryce Young for the next two years, I'd take the Carolina guys, I take Baker and Todd Bowles today. Absolutely. Mike Vrabel, Drake May. Absolutely. Caleb. Ben Johnson without an argument. So this is a coach quarterback league. And through all the weirdness of the press conference now with a second lower body injury, Dax saying, I'm tying it to Brian Schottenheimer. Just ask yourself where would you put them in the league? Don't listen to me. You think about it now. Where do you stack them? Because there's eight and we don't. I think Sean McDermott's a good coach. Do I think he's great. I think he lacks some nuance offensively. Sirianni I don't get necessarily. Jordan loves a very talented quarterback. More talented than Dak. He's not great yet. Little too reckless. La Flure is outstanding. But just ask yourself I would take Kevin O Connor of the Vikings not even knowing who his quarterback is today. Kevin OConnell. Excuse me, I. I would take him today. I don't even know if they're going to play Daniel Jones, J.J. mcCarthy or Sam Darnold. I would take that. So that's the real warning sign. Kitchen location, you'll always sell a home. Head coach and quarterback are elite. You're fine. I like Brian Dable. There's only so much he could do with Daniel Jones. One of them has to be an A and the other one has to be B plus plus to A minus or it doesn't work in this league or you get fired in this league. So you know that that's as I'm watching this press conference and Dax saying, I'm going to tie it to Schottenheimer. My take is wow. I mean we had reservations before. Wow is where it lands. Andy Reid in 45 minutes. Now, J. Mac, I know you are on this. Brawny is going to emerge as an NBA star. So as I led with that today, I don't want to come across is. I don't. I don't hope the kid doesn't do well. But there is an over. I would say there is a reality of the NBA that continues is that the media that covers it is baseball's is romantic. They. They romance the past of baseball. That's not really what NBA is. The NBA is terrified to lose access to stars. So we're all pretending this Brawny thing is a real story. And it's like the minute he's on the floor, the Sixers are like attack. This is, by the way, what happens. This is what Brady and Mahomes do. When a cornerback gets hurt, you sub In a corner fresh from the bench and Brady Mahomes were like attack.

Colin Cowherd (19:08)

What we're feeding the public is nonsense. It's BS. The truth is a 62 non ball handler guard who can't shoot. What are we doing? It makes me be the ogre on the air and the bad guy. But it's like, what are we doing here? Let's be serious as a sport. Let's. Let's talk about serious stuff, real players. And again, I come across as bad guy. Like I'm beaten up on it. But it's like you drafted him, you called teams, told not to draft it. You move him up and now you're reduced to I put the kid in a bad spot. I'm just over it. I'm over with the story. I'm done. No more stories on this. Well, you can do them in her. I will just do this. When you talk about I'll just turn my mic off. I'm done. If you've been thinking about home security, now's the time to join millions of Americans who trust Simply Safe stops, break ins. Go to simplisafecollen.com 50% enough a new system. There's no safe like Simply Safe. I'm just going to turn the mic off. This point forward, be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. With AMEX Platinum, you get priority notified with global dining access by Resi so you can get first dibs if a spot opens up at restaurants and compliments to the chef turns into compliments to your Platinum card. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Learn more@american express.com With Amex, you can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile, keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com heap and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. I'm somebody that likes to experiment with food. My son, my daughter are the same thing. But even when I go to get a traditional meal like steaks, the best chefs know that grass fed grain finished beef delivers an exquisite marbling that produces rich steakhouse flavor you crave even with steaks. Keep your eye on it. With all the football this weekend, it was a great time to bust open my Omaha steaks assortment. Pack air, chilled boneless chicken breasts, Rib eye and steak burgers Gourmet Jumbo franks. They're great Butcher's cut top Sirloins Steakhouse fries and for dessert, caramel apple tartlets. Football plus Omaha Steaks it doesn't get better than this. Every bite at Omaha Steaks is backed by their 100% guarantee. And now's the perfect time to shop during the Omaha Steaks Big yum event@omahasteaks.com plus get an extra 20 bucks off. Use the promo code herdherd at checkout. Winter is a perfect time to indulge in classic comfort foods, but it's also a great time to discover something new. And during the Omaha Steak Big Yum event, you can do that. They offer unrivaled quality and variety and every bite is backed by their 100% guarantee. Every steak is extra aged to maximize tenderness and hand cut by master butchers in America's heartland, the fan favorite Filet mignon has earned the coveted distinction of USDA certified tender. Five generations of uncompromising quality dating back to 1917 bring home the world's best steak experience with omaha steaks. Visit omaha steaks.com save in your favorites and discover something new during their Big Yum event. And for an extra $20 off, use the promo code herdherd at checkout. That's omahasteaks.com an extra $20 off with the promo code heardherd at checkout. If you love iPhone, you'll love Apple Card. It comes with the privacy and security you expect from Apple. Plus you earn up to 3% daily cash back on every purchase, which can automatically earn interest when you open a High Yield Savings account through Apple Card. Apply for Apple Card in the Wallet app subject to credit approval. Savings is available to Apple Card owners subject to eligibility. Apple Card and Savings by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch Member FDIC terms and more@applecard.com so there's an argument after Patrick Mahomes. I don't even know if there is an argument. The best player in the game is Saquon Barkley, and I was looking this morning at this season's numbers. He's number one in everything except rushing touchdowns and he's got 18. The kid's unbelievable, all class. And I started a company a few years ago and I called a bunch of smart people. I called like Mark Cuban. I called people had been very successful and I said, hey, give me a piece of business advice. And you know, all of them have kind of the same messages, but I remember this piece of Advice from somebody. Hit a bunch of doubles and you'll have a successful business. Because other companies will make mistakes. You don't have to hit home runs, hit doubles. You'd be amazed how often somebody makes a mistake. And that's how Saquon Barkley ended up with the Philadelphia Eagles. Drew Brees became a saint because the Miami Dolphins doctor wouldn't clear him mistake. Reggie White became a Packer. He was in Philadelphia. Their owner, Norman Brahman, was so cheap and short sighted, he not only hired Rich Cotite, arguably the worst head coach ever, but he charged players for equipment to maximize profits. It was a second tier organization. Roger Woodson, Charles Woodson went from to Green Bay, immediate Super Bowl. Why? Because old Al Davis thought he was Jerry Jones and was the GM and the owner and at that point was weird and frugal and making terrible decisions. And you start looking around Brady in Tampa, Bill thought he was done. Bill couldn't provide him with receivers. He started to alienate Tom and in the end he had no succession plan. They made a big mistake. Brady, even after all the years in Tampa, was still a top 78 quarterback. So when I look at the Saquon Barkley situation, you had Joe Shane, a GM in New York who bought into this silly online media narrative that running backs had topped out. They had no value long term. And as we said, it was March 11th or something like that was the day that it happened. I said he's. Not only is he going to succeed in Philadelphia, but because the Giants O line was so bad and they have no star weapons on the perimeter. You can cheat when you play the Giants against Saquon, you can stack the box. But with A.J. brown and DeVonta Smith, the safeties are off the line and the O lines first or second best in the league. It's not like he's going to be good in Philly. He's going to be dominant. Don't even listen to any of these people on the Internet. Go pay a running back. Go buy him. This was a huge mistake. And we watched HBO Max, we watched the Giants and Mara now. Ridiculous. It was so. This is an organization. They paid Daniel Jones and they let Saquon Barkley walk. And I believe this to my core. You do not have to be a genius to get rich. You do not have to be brilliant. You don't have to be like Elon Musk, Zuckerberg tech whiz to be very successful, hit doubles in life and then wait for other people to make big mistakes. That's it. Just don't take all the wild big swings regularly, occasional big swing, but, I mean, all Philadelphia did was go, well, man, if this guy's rushing for that in New York with no weapons on the outside to keep safeties out of the box in a battle line and Daniel Jones, what is he going to do here? I mean, of all Howie Roseman's moves, it's actually not that impressive. It's obvious. The fact that it was available is nuts. It was just another mistake. It could be a Miami doctor, a bad owner in Philadelphia, a grumpy coach in New England. Just wait. That's the only time hall of Fame level talent in their primes available. Right? The free agent market is generally, you know, it's got kind of a Jimmy Butler feel to it. Where good player aging wants big money. That's always kind of what free agency feels like. I'm not saying Jimmy Butler can't play. I think he would make the warriors better, but I'm not going to build my franchise around him. I'm not giving him huge money. Does he fit? Can he make us better on the Steph Curry timeline? I mean, this was a Hall of Fame talent in their prime, and somebody let him walk like somebody did with Charles Woodson, Reggie White and Drew Brees. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.

Colin Cowherd (46:45)

I mean, I could, I could guess, but it would just be a guess. Some movies, they're not worth a sequel. And because I'm from the Pacific Northwest, the Pete Russell Legion of Boom Seahawks, it was the first team my sister ever liked. My sister's not into sports. We started texting about sports on Sunday. Really connected because of Russell and the Seahawks and I. There's two quarterbacks that Greg Cosell and I, only two that I can think of have ever really disagreed about. I like Trevor Lawrence and Russell always more than he did. And I may be 0 for 2. Trevor Lawrence does not have the obsessiveness. I think you need to go from good to very good and great. He's plateaued. I'm not sure if he loves the sport. He's good at it, he's talented. I feel like this is just what he's willing to be. And we keep blaming coaches and Russell Wilson. I always thought he led the potential dynasty. It was him. Not him alone, but him. But if you look back, he was small, he was creative, he was elusive. I'd never seen anything quite like him at the time. I think I compared him to a 1970 quarterback, Fran Tarkenton or maybe Roger Staubach. I'd never quite seen it. I think he got other guys drafted. But Greg Cosell would always say he's not really good from the pocket. I can't really explain it, but it's almost like they're like when he goes back to pass, he already knows that he's going to leave the pocket. He doesn't really feel comfortable in the pocket Now. I think Jalen Hurts is not a great pocket quarterback, but I do think he does feel comfortable in the pocket. I still don't think Russell does. I just couldn't see through the fog of maybe it was my sister's love for the Seahawks. That was my favorite team growing up. But I. I would say this. Not all movies need a sequel. The best the Seahawks were is when they were called Legion of Boom. And when the Seahawks started to regress, it was called Let Russ Cook. And I. I thought it was great. I bought into the hype. But if I take a step back, I was. I was kind of critical of the. The Pete Carol, Russell Wilson thing. I like, didn't get it. What are you doing, Pete? But in the end, John Snyder got himself out of Russia, built a great roster. Now they're still looking for a quarterback, but it is a really good roster in Seattle. And Denver got stuck with a quarterback they didn't want. And now Pittsburgh's got a quarterback they're not sure about and probably don't want. And so I would say in this instance, no sequel. It was great. It was magical. It was really brief. It's not going to be Brady Belichick, some of this stuff in the NFL. Sam Darnold and the Vikings. One year feels like it was perfect. Sam's gonna get paid. J.J. mcCarthy got hurt. It was one year. And I really feel like Russ and Seattle about the. Seattle needed a quarterback. They. At one point they traded for Charlie Whitehurst. They didn't. Matt Flynn. They didn't know Pete was in trouble. Seven, nine. Seven and nine. We gotta get a quarterback. And it was magical. For about a six, seven year run, Pete was out of usc. You know, he's drafting all sorts of players in the fifth, sixth round that end up great players. But I've just come to terms with not every great head coach quarterback combo is any more than one year. Darnold and the Vikings, one year was perfect. If you extend it to four, you're probably getting in the way of J.J. mcCarthy's development. Just it was a one great year. The rush thing felt like six to seven really strong years. They probably could have moved off a couple years earlier and I was wrong on that one. Saints, for the record, still do not have a head coach. Kellen Moore, my guess is is the coach. They're just waiting for the super bowl to end. So I don't love the idea of hiring the last coach. That means you get the scraps on the coordinators and assistants. He'll have to take somebody from Philadelphia or several people on the Eagles staff. Andy Reid is around the corner, the best coach in football, maybe ever. Certainly now he will join us live. This is the Herd.