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Jason McIntyre
Now, let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome to the herd. Jason McIntyre in for yes, a sick Colin Cowherd again. Spoke to the big guy last night. He was feeling all right. He's feeling better, but probably not good enough to go today. So they went back to the bullpen. Manager came and tapped me on the shoulder, hey, J. Mac, it's time for the show. We need you. So I'm ready to rock and roll, people. We had a productive morning meeting. I'll pull back the curtain a little bit. I am flying totally solo today as another member of the staff went home sick. We're all battling it, folks, but this is what we do, you know, long season and we're here to play. We got some great topics, excellent guests. I'm going to kind of blow your mind with an NBA take in like seven minutes. But we've got to start, obviously with the NFL. The super bowl week is fully upon us. Media day or media night? Sorry. Was last night in New Orleans, you had a lot of people saying interesting stuff. You guys know how that super bowl media night works. It's a big scene. I saw Pete Schrager walking around with the microphone. I saw Jameis Winston working for Fox doing some stuff with our digital side. It was all fun. And I did see one interesting thing from Pat Mahomes that we're going to start the show with. And I want to just talk quickly at large dynasties. Okay? Yes. I detested, could not stand the Patriots dynasty. You guys know that I'm a Jets fan, but it wasn't just me that didn't like the Patriots. They were disliked around the league. Fans everywhere. Nobody liked them. Come on, how could you like a franchise that had an ornery coach? You know, Bill Belichick, initially people liked him, right? He got run off in Cleveland. He did make the playoffs there, but then he got run off and it was like, oh, Belichick. Oh, that's a great story. Bill Belichick's back. And initially people liked the Patriots. Tom Brady, a sixth round pick coming in for the number one pick to Drew Bledsoe and his massive contract. And Brady's a great underdog story. People loved the Patriots initially. Then they got dominant, the dynasty started rolling and everybody was out on the Patriots. I can't stand them. And then you toss in Spygate, which was a real thing Guys, you can look it up. You can deny, oh, it was a no big deal. Look it up. The facts are not great. In Spygate, then you had Deflategate, which was probably a little overblown. But at that point, people were so sick of the Patriots that they had become Villains. Everybody nationwide rooted against the Patriots. It was Boston against the world, you know, and they kept the dynasty rolling. So enter the Kansas City Chiefs. And last night, Patrick Mahomes was asked, hey, man, you guys kind of are the Villains now. And I'll get to that in a second. But here's what Mahomes said, addressing the Villains label to the Chiefs. I don't even think it's embracing me and the Villains. We embrace who we are, and we believe we play the game the right way. We. We believe that we play with a.
Colin Cowherd
Lot of heart and a lot of.
Jason McIntyre
Passion for the game, and then we win football games. And if winning football games makes you.
Colin Cowherd
A villain, we're going to go keep.
Jason McIntyre
Going out there and doing it. Now, listen, I have been vocal against the Chiefs on this show. I'm not a huge fan of this dynasty. However, I need to be honest with you guys. I'm gonna keep it real. They are a likable team. Andy Reid. Who's more likable than Andy Reid? I mean, he looks like your neighbor. You're going on vacation. You go, hey, Andy, how you doing, bud? Hey, you know, he's got this jolly look, the big mustache. Hey, I'm going on vacation. Do you think you could, like, take out my trash cans and then bring them back in? Oh, yeah, no problem, Jay. I got that. That's how Andy. Those are the vibes he gives off, right? You've got. You've seen the memes of, like, the Kool Aid man and Andy Reid. He looks like Santa Claus. Who doesn't like Andy Reid? Bill Belichick was this curmudgeon. He was angry at the podium, just unfriendly, not chatty. Wore that ratty hoodie with the holes in it. Joked about social media without trying to be funny. Never cracked a smile like Andy Reid. Much more likable than Belichick. Now, Tom Brady, obviously very likable. You know, cool guy. Ladies loved him. You wanted to be friends with him. Same thing with Patrick Mahomes. And listen, I don't follow a ton of athletes on Instagram, but I follow my homes. He's a likable dude. He's got a wife. He's got kids. He seems like a normal guy, right? They're actually likable. So why are they villains? And again, I'm not calling them villains. I just don't really like their dominance. I'm ready for new teams, but if you watch how they play, they're a fun, good football team, right? They've got less fun since they lost Tyreek Hill, and they're a little less explosive. Team started going to the two high safeties to take away the big plays, and then it's death by seven yard, Patrick Mahomes scrambles or Isaac Pacheco carries. The reason I'm out on them. And again, okay, this is maybe just me is this whole referee thing they get. And again, I'm not saying it's rigged. They do get a lot of calls. Every pivotal play involving a Chiefs game, guys, no lie. You're watching. The play ends and you're looking around. Where's the flag? Is there a flag? Oh, no flag. Wow. It just feels like on every pivotal third or fourth down play, somehow it goes the Chief's way. And I know everybody wants to say, hey, that's. That's. They're buttoned up. And guys, every good team is buttoned up, okay? They've had coaching changes like the rest of the league at offensive coordinator, They've had guys shuffling on the offensive line. The defense, they've had a lot of changes. And this whole villain label is interesting because I'm going to be honest with you. If the Eagles pull this off, as I think they will, are the Chiefs still villains or are they only villains that they win? I just think it's good food for thought. And I thought that was fascinating from Patrick Mahomes last night. All right, now I want to pivot to the NBA and this story I'm kind of sort of obsessed with. So not to give you too much of a peek behind the curtain, but our morning meeting, you know, they got all these stories that are percolating. I'll throw out an idea. People will bat around topics. Sometimes they agree, sometimes they don't. This one. Oh, man, I love this story. Okay, so we all know that the player empowerment era in the NBA has been going strong for 15ish years. Quick history note it. It didn't totally start with LeBron, although it kind of did. So LeBron, if you go back to, I believe it's 2006, beats up, or maybe 2007, beats the Detroit Pistons in that heroic series where he just goes nuclear, takes them down, gets the young Cavs to the Finals. He basically, if you look at that Cavs roster, He dragged, like, the equivalent of my men's basketball team to the finals. They get swept by the spurs, but it was LeBron against the world. And Danny Ainge in Boston saw that and very quickly realized, ain't nobody stopping LeBron. He's too good. This guy's about to take over the league. So the Celtics went out and got their own super team. They built the first super team. Let's bring on Kevin Garnett. We already got Pierce. Let's bring on Ray Allen. And they had the super team. They took down LeBron. So a couple years later, LeBron's like, shucks, Cavs can't build me a super team. I'm going to create my own super team. And he did that in Miami, ushering in the player empowerment era. And for about the last 15 years, NBA players around the league, hey, you know what? I kind of want to play with that superstar. Come on over and hey, owner, I want the max deal. And then five minutes later, I want out of here. The players controlled the league. They ran everything. It was. It was all players teaming up, players calling the shots. The owners were kind of beholden to the superstars. It's a superstar league. A funny thing happened over the weekend, okay? Luka Doncic got traded. And the reaction was universally, who the hell trades Luka Doncic? It can't just be because the GM and Michael Finley is assisted. GM thought that Luca was like, you know, fat and out of shape and didn't want to grind. You gotta. You gotta run that by the owner, right? You can't just trade Luka Doncic. And it really shook up the league. And 24 hours later, guess what? De'Aaron Fox, he got shipped to San Antonio. Zach Levine, who apparently was. Wasn't going to get traded anywhere. He goes to Sacramento. Owners, it's almost like they've had it. They've had it with the player empowerment era. And I'm sure you guys have seen that movie, Captain Phillips, right? It has Tom Hanks as. He's like, you know, the captain of a cargo liner. It gets overtaken by Somali pirates. And at one point in the movie, and you could go watch this on YouTube, you know, they're like, who's the captain? And Tom Hanks is like, I'm the captain. This is my ship. And this guy goes, no, no, no. Look me in my eyes. I'm the captain now. I'm the captain. It feels like the owners are looking their star players in the eye and saying, no more player empowerment. I'm running the show. This is my show. I'm the billionaire now. And if Luka Doncic could get created, shucks, anybody could get traded. Anybody could get traded. I'll get you to the big name who's starting to percolate now in a second. But I bring up this. This player empowerment stuff because one of the guys in the morning meeting said something I just totally forgot about. So last year, the Timberwolves go to the conference finals, and. And I. I get all these guys on social media saying, jason, stop with the Karl Anthony Towns to New York. It's not happening. I've been saying this for, like, three years. We knew he wanted to go to New York, and this guy made, like, a friendly bet with me on social media. I bet you he doesn't get traded now. They went to the conference finals, and I was like, I'll just stick with my prediction. Even though they went to the conference finals, folks, did we forget Minnesota was in the conference finals and just traded away their second best player? Now, why is that? Well, you could say they're not a great fit, but they went to the conference finals. It's because the owner didn't want to pay that luxury tax that they were going to be in for because Carl Anthony Towns, his salary, and Gobert and Anthony Edwards, it's like, holy cow, they traded away Carl Anthony Towns. And that was kind of glossed over at the time. But Dallas, the real reason that's coming out, that they didn't want to pay Luka Doncic. They traded him. They don't want to pay him 345 million because it's tough to build around one guy making that much money. As a side note, NFL owners take note. Quarterbacks, they're headed in this direction. You know, it's happening. We saw it with Dak Prescott. He got paid. How'd the Mavericks do? Sorry. Had the Cowboy. The Cancun Cowboys, as I'm told they're called now. How did they do? So just file that away. NFL, what's happening in the NBA is these owners are like, these salaries are out of control. We're not winning, paying all these guys all the money. Let's go trade Luka Doncic. And I'll wrap up with this because this is the other name that emerged here in the last 24 hours, and that's Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was in Brooklyn, said, get me the hell out of here. I'd like to go to Phoenix. Okay, yes, yes, Kevin, we got you. We'll let you go to Phoenix. And Kevin Durant is now sitting in Phoenix. Everybody's waiting for Bradley Beal to get traded, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. And as a result, Phoenix, sitting 10th in the west, they could miss the playoffs, miss the play in. And all of a sudden we're starting to hear, oh, everybody's calling about Kevin Durant. And you have to, if you're the young owner in Phoenix, how, how do we get better? We might have to trade Kevin Durant. We might have to get off our second best player because you know what? We can't miss the playoffs and pay a massive luxury tax bill because of the salaries and folks, unbelievably, Dwyane Wade kind of sort of addressed this this week on the the why podcast. Here's his take on why Luca was traded. This was billionaire business. Yes, this was at the top. This was, this was the last two to 15 years. The players have decided, right.
Colin Cowherd
What we want to do.
Jason McIntyre
This was the owners, the governors, the billionaires deciding what they want to do. So you got the top international player in la. So the viewership, the, the, the ticket sales, everybody, Europe, Spain, they all coming in to la. We know how this. So I'm looking at the business and I'm like, yo, hold up. This was an amazing business decision by billionaires. Yes, sure to say, this is what I want for now and this is what we need as a league. You guys remember when Ohtani went to the Dodgers, they paid all of the money. It was like, oh, my God, how can they afford this? Kind of worked out well, didn't it? They won the World Series. Merch sales through the roof, ticket sales spiking. They're printing money now. The Dodgers by spending money. And I wonder, did the Lakers make this move? Hey, we are set up for the future, but we just got Luka, an international superstar. That's going to open a gateway to Europe for us financially. I mean, I don't know if you guys saw the reports. The Dallas Mavericks social media accounts were just hemorrhaging followers. Tens of thousands. I saw a report, hundreds of thousands of followers. I don't know if it's official. They lost a lot of followers because they're out on. They traded Luca. And Dwyane Wade is totally onto something here. This was a great business move. And coming up next year on the Herd, I will tell you, the next big NBA star on the move. I don't think you're going to know Kevin Durant's in the mix, but there are a couple others. Keep an eye out. That's next year on the Herd.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt Like, I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.
Albert Breer
There was something sentimental when you.
Colin Cowherd
When you send it.
Albert Breer
He was like, do I send the heart now?
Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
Albert Breer
It's extremely pink.
Bobby Bones
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Jason McIntyre
Welcome back. We got Albert Breer stopping by in about 15 to 20 minutes. Albert Breer, really good guy. Really plugged in. I think he's already in New Orleans at the Super Bowl. I'm sure he'll offer us some great stuff from last night at super bowl media night, which looked like a big time party down in New Orleans. All right, let's quickly go back to the NBA. Anthony Edwards is a young, ascending star. I know this is probably the first time in the show's history we've actually mentioned the Timberwolves twice in the first hour, but Anthony Edwards, I thought he would be taken over the league. There's a new book coming out on him shortly. Anthony Edwards took the Timberwolves to the conference finals last year. Appeared to be one of these, like, face of the league guys. Very likable, individual dunking machine scorer. Everything about Anthony Edwards is awesome. But a weird thing starting to happen again. This Luka Doncic trade really shook everybody up, and this idea that nobody's safe and owners have the power and they can move off anybody. Well, Anthony Edwards saw what happened with Luka Doncic, and he talked to the media about it last night.
Albert Breer
They say that none of them.
Jason McIntyre
Nobody know about the trade.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
So that's crazy. At 25, they traded probably the best score in the NBA. At 25, he didn't know about it. So it's a lot more digging somebody got to do to find out why he got traded. Because you don't just trade him at 25. He just went to the finals. You know what I'm saying? Everybody. Everybody getting formed.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
I'm scared. I'm scared, Tim. Hey, if you're gonna trade me, let me know, dog. When Luca got traded, anybody is. Is able to get trained at that point. I'm scared. I like that. And. And that's it feel. It felt authentic from Anthony Edwards. Like, I'm sure he's joking. Ha ha ha. You know, one of those deals where you're looking over your shoulder a little bit. Listen, if you could trade Luka Doncic, why wouldn't you trade Anthony Edwards? Now, obviously, Anthony Edwards is A foundational piece in Minnesota, I would say there's 0.0% chance of him getting moved. But post Luca, maybe you've got to add like a.001 chance. Which brings me, by the way, Luca's meeting with the media. I think, like right now out here in la, they're doing the press conference. We'll have sound as soon as the good stuff comes out. But it got me thinking, like, who else could be moved this week? What else is happening around the league? And I touched on Kevin Durant earlier. We got like 48 hours left, folks. Kevin Durant would not surprise me at all if he got shipped. The interesting team is the Golden State Warriors. And I know some people are like, come on, they're not going to do that again. Listen, the warriors needed Kevin Durant when they got him in 2016. I don't care. I hear so many. Just goofballs. Oh, they didn't need him. They won 73 games. Hello. They lost in the finals to LeBron and Kyrie. They lost after being up 3:1. They lost the series. They needed Kevin Durant. And it's not like Kevin Durant came on to the warriors and was like, you know, riding shotgun. He was the MVP of the finals two years in a row. He was the best player on the best team in my, for my money, in NBA history. Of course the warriors needed him. Well, you know who else needs him right now? The Golden State Warriors. I'm looking at the standings. Oh, look at that. Golden State is 11th in the West. Steph Curry, 36, turns 37 later this year. Come on, guys, are we really going to waste the prime final prime years of Steph Curry? We saw what he did in August at the Olympics. For my money, that was the greatest Sports Moment in 2024. Like Steph Curry putting. Putting everybody to sleep with the unbelievable finish at the Olympics. Spectacular. And now he's going to miss the freaking playoffs. What? They're 11th in the West. Jimmy Butler said he doesn't want to go there because he's not going to sign long term. Which brings me to Kevin Durant. Why wouldn't the warriors say, hey, how do we get Kevin Durant? I was reading. You guys know Brian Winhorse covers the league. Probably one of the best plugged in reporters out there. He used to joke, if you have a three team trade idea, you have a no team trade idea because it's so difficult to make them work. And now he's reversed course and said, geez, with all these new salaries, I mean, The Utah Jazz got in on that Luka Doncic trade. They didn't even know about it until 30 minutes before. Hey, Jazz, by the way, you guys are taking this in the deal. You don't have to do anything. You just take this, okay? We'll take more picks.
Colin Cowherd
Sure.
Jason McIntyre
And it's like, why couldn't you figure out a way, if you're Golden State, to pry Kevin Durant away? And now the question becomes, would Kevin Durant want to go to Golden State? Does he have a choice? Hey, KD, you're with the Suns. They are currently 10th in the West. You're going to the warriors, who are 11th in the West. Why not? I mean, if you're the owner of the Phoenix Suns and you've got to make the playoffs and you've got to do something, you can't stand pat. Nobody takes Brad Beal. Why wouldn't you move off KD and get Jimmy Butler, who's a tougher defender, more of a leader? No disrespect, kd. You know I'm a fan. I don't need KD coming after me. Yes, I'll tag him when I post this. This video that Wes clips off. But don't come after me. Kd, I still think you can help the Warriors. I don't think y'all are winning a title. I don't know that you'd want to go back and play with Draymond Green, who was kind of a jerk to you many moons ago, and, you know, sucker punch Jordan Poole and I. I don't know that you want to go there, but do the warriors have anything that the Heat would want? Kuminga pods, like, it becomes very difficult, but if I'm the Warriors, I'm working the phones and I'm going to toss this other name two other names in there. So, number one, and you just heard Anthony Edwards say, nobody's safe. I'm just going to mention him. Giannis and Milwaukee. The Bucks currently are fifth in the East. The Damian Lillard thing, we've given it a while. I don't know that it's working. I just don't. I don't know what the future holds for Dame in Milwaukee. Ain't nobody taking on Dame's contract. That's just not happening. You can't. It's like, not quite Bradley be all bad, but, you know, Dame's a better player now than Beal, but it becomes a little onerous. And if you're the ownership group and you're looking around like, geez, we don't have a path to success. Middleton keeps getting injured.
Colin Cowherd
Do.
Jason McIntyre
Do we just. Hey, we got a title with Giannis. Do we just start over? And I know it sounds stupid, but look what the Mavericks just did with Luca. Now, Giannis, obviously less of an issue, fitness wise. Allegedly. I'm not calling Luka fat or anything, but that's. It's become clear. The Mavericks shipped him for two reasons, and out of shape and reluctance to work is one of them. There's none of that with Giannis. But you have to wonder, do the Bucks consider. Shucks. Maybe. Maybe we move on from Giannis and start over and it's too late to get in the Cooper Flag sweepstakes. But it's like, I don't know. And again, I know you guys are listening. Like, come on, they're not trading Giannis. Look around the league. Towns went to the conference finals. They shipped him. Luca went to the finals, traded. Like things are happening. The other name I'll put out there, and his name has been out in the past, including for the Lakers, although that's not happening now, is Trey Young. Trey Young, a guy who hit this league like something of a comet. Remember, he was taking the Hawks to the playoffs, Took down the Knicks in msg, took down Embiid and the Sixers. Do you guys remember that? Okay, that was. Yes, I know. The Ben Simmons pass, whatever. And be was on the court, had seven turnovers. Game seven. I don't want to hear it. And now the Hawks, by the way, are ninth in the East. They lost their budding star Jaylen Johnson for the season. And if you look at that roster, they're playing dudes that. And you guys know I'm a big college basketball nerd. I don't know some of these guys on their roster, and it's like they might miss the playoffs. What's the point? And again, you know, I don't know what the market is for a small point guard like Trey Young, who really. I know he's leading the league in assists and every. Barkley and Shaq love him now. Weird. The Hawks stink and they love Trey Young. Does Trey Young have a market? I don't know. But I think the Hawks have to ask themselves, what are we doing with Trey Young? We're not a playoff team anymore. We're maybe a play in team. He's not our foundational piece. Jalen Johnson is. Do we reconfigure around a guy and just shoot for the moon next year and we move on from Trey Young? I would keep an eye On Trey Young, I would keep an eye on Giannis. And to go back to Jimmy Butler. Real quick, we have some sound from Kevin Garnett. People are fired up about this Butler thing, because I do believe it is kind of the end of the player empowerment era. And Jimmy Butler's kind of, you know, thinking he's still got power and he's got no juice, and it's like failing miserably. This. The Heat keeps suspending him. Here's Kevin Garnett on the Jimmy Butler situation.
Albert Breer
When you step out of being professional and then you step out of not.
Colin Cowherd
You know, to your oath and holding.
Jason McIntyre
Up your end of the bargain, or.
Colin Cowherd
You open up for all this right.
Jason McIntyre
Here, bro, this is how non guarantees.
Albert Breer
Are gonna come into our league right here for like this.
Jason McIntyre
We fought our ass off through five.
Albert Breer
And six lockouts to get to a.
Colin Cowherd
Point where there's no where we protect.
Albert Breer
The integrity of the talent, and then that talent has a responsibility to be professional.
Colin Cowherd
Come in here and do your job.
Albert Breer
We came here, we did our jobs.
Jason McIntyre
You got paid and you went home. You go home. Soon as you get opportunity to change that, you change it. Kevin Garnett very fired up about that. And listen, I have been a huge Jimmy Butler fan, essentially, for the last, like, 10 years. His story is incredible. You know, had a rough family upbringing, no real offers out of high school, had to go the juco route. Ends up at Marquette. I think to sign with Marquette, he had to go to, like, a McDonald's to fax his letter of intent. Like, it was that kind of situation for Butler. It basically does nothing and then kind of pops, you know, falls in the draft a little bit and just works his way up from benchwarmer in Chicago to legitimate All Star. Ends up, like, just the gritty nature of Jimmy Butler carrying the Heat to the Finals twice. I know they didn't win a chip, but it's like, come on, man. Jimmy Butler's a warrior. I love his style of play. He doesn't take crap from anyone. You know, he's one of these. He's like a legit dog. Like, if you've got him on your team, you're going to have a chance because he's Jimmy Butler. You know, there are legendary stories about him in Minnesota when he ran into issues with the front office, and he would come into practice and say, I don't want to run with the starters. I'm going to take these four benchwarmers and we're going to beat their ass. And he would then go into practice and they would win the scrimmage. Like these stories are out there. Jimmy Butler is an absolute dog and you think everyone would want him, but he's kind of killed his value with these actions in Miami. He thought he had the power, but the players kind of sort of have lost it. All right, coming up next here on the Herd. Luka introduced in la. Wait for what you hear about his departure from Dallas. Oh, boy. And Albert Breer live from New Orleans.
Colin Cowherd
Be sure to catch live editions of.
Jason McIntyre
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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.
Albert Breer
There was something sentimental when you, like.
Colin Cowherd
When you send it.
Albert Breer
You guys like, do I send the heart now?
Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
Albert Breer
It's extremely pink.
Bobby Bones
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Jason McIntyre
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports back here on the hurt. Albert Breer coming up in a second. But, folks, Luka Doncic just met the media in Los Angeles. Oh, boy. Oh, wait till you hear this. So Luca is very measured. He actually looks slim. I was expecting him to wear black to look skinnier, you know, like, because of all the jokes. But Luca just met with the media, and oh, boy. Here's a veiled shot at the Mavs front office from Luka Doncic. I'm just excited, you know, to be here, to start this new journey. Journey. And obviously, at some point, I knew this was going to happen, but I would say I always take the high road. You know, I had my amazing moments in Dallas with all my teammates, coaches, and most importantly, the fans.
Albert Breer
You know, they always supported me.
Jason McIntyre
And it was. It was an amazing journey. Players, coaches, fans. I knew this was going to happen. Oh, gosh, that's delicious. So I found, you know, people put stuff online and this. This came from an article that the Mavericks have, in August of 23, fired their player of health and performance coaching, and then they fired two other strength coaches and a therapist. And the common thread was all those guys were friendly with Luca. I know this sounds illusory to say as a guy, but some guys are just cool guys that everybody likes, you know? And I know people are laughing in the control room. Lucas just seems like a cool guy. He's friendly, he's funny. I don't know if you guys have seen some of the clips that the Mavs used to put out of him playing, like, horse or one on one. Like, everybody likes Luka Doncic. Why didn't the front office like him? That was the issue. They fired the people that like Luka. Right? Get them out of the building. Hey, let's get some people who Luka's not tight with. And it's like, it's just very ugly in Dallas and him knowing this was going to happen and saying that, oh, that is not good. I think the clock is. If it wasn't already, the clock is ticking on Nico Harrison in Dallas. Hey, by the way, if they miss the playoffs, is he their GM next year? Luca also talked about playing with LeBron. He's a little excited. It's just like a dream come true. You know, I always look up to him. There's so many learn. There's so many things I can learn from him. And I'm just excited, you know, just to learn everything. And now I get to play with him. So it's an amazing feeling. Yeah, very excited. All Right, let's get to Albert Brear live from New Orleans, the Monday morning quarterback.com brear what is up? You look like you're. Where are you tucked in? Some. Some.
Albert Breer
Like, I'm at the. No, I'm at the chief's hotel. I'm like outside their access and I, I'm sure like Dave and the guys in the, the studio probably aren't happy about this, like, light that's coming down on me and washing me out a little bit. But I, I trust you can help me fight through it. J. Mac.
Jason McIntyre
Yes. Yes, yes. So, Chiefs, what's the vibe around the team? You're in the hotel. Have you seen Taylor Swift? That's got to be the first question, right?
Albert Breer
Yeah, I don't think, I don't think Taylor Swift staying at the Marriott. I might be wrong about that. But, but I, but I don't think she's staying at the Marriott now, man. Like, it's like this is a confident group, you know, and they've been here obviously five times and six years now. That's unprecedented. And, you know, you can kind of feel with them where they really know this is a business trip. They know what to expect and they know the ins and outs of the week and kind of the way everything goes. And so, you know, I think that's their advantage is that they'll be able to take the stage without having to deal with a lot of the unknown that another team might, you know, whether it's the length of warm ups, the length of, of of of the, the introductions, a lot of the standing around, you know, during game day, the halftime show. They know, you know, how to prepare for every single piece of that which, you know, I know they hope allows them to hit the ground running on Sunday.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah. What do you make of this? A villains comment from Patrick Mahomes? You know, we don't mind being the villains. We'll embrace it. It's weird, Albert. Like, I don't know that people hate them. I think, I think people hate their winning, but people like, don't dis. Dislike Andy Reid or Patrick Mahomes, you know?
Albert Breer
Yeah, I don't think that there's a hatred towards the individual people, but I do think there's a little bit of that villain thing with the way people complain about the officiating, the way I think people have grown a little tired of them. You know, obviously all the conversation, Taylor Swift, which, and the reality is like, if you count up all the seconds that she's actually on TV during NFL games is it more than, like, the owner is of the team. I mean, I. Probably not. And I think a lot more people would like to see Taylor Swift than some old rich guy up in the. Up in the box, you know, So I think there's a lot of, like, those sorts of elements that have existed with every dynasty. You know, the Patriots dealt with it. You're sitting there in Los Angeles. There are a lot of people who probably aren't happy about Luca winding up there and think there's some sort of conspiracy afoot. You know, it's just with teams like this that reach this sort of plateau, you have that element of it. And I actually think it's good that you embrace the villain role. It's really. They're really right about the same point in their ascent, their dynasty, as the Patriots were when they took on the villain role. And I think, really, things really turned for the Patriots with Spygate, you know, and 2007 was when they went from sort of being just a really good team that was respected into this, like, kind of dark operation, you know, And I don't know the Chiefs will ever get that level of villain status, but it definitely exists to some degree, and I think it's a smart move for them all to embrace it because, you know, as long as Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are there now, I think that'll sort of be the way that they're looked at.
Jason McIntyre
Here's one who's under more pressure in this Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts. And is there a case to be made for Mahomes because of the pressure of the three peat, which they've been talking about for basically a calendar year now, Whereas Jalen Hurts is like, I throw the ball 18 times a game. This is no big deal. I'm carrying my briefcase. There's a business trip. Is there more pressure on Mahomes here?
Albert Breer
I don't think so. I mean, I think Mahomes. I mean, to me, I look at where the Chiefs are, and it's sort of you're playing with house money. You know what I mean? Like, I. And I know they don't approach it that way, and I know there's history on the line and everything else, but, you know, I think Mahomes has played so well in so many of these settings that if he were to, you know, throw an interception at the end of the game, it's not going to really affect his legacy, where if you come in this, in your jail and hurts, you've had this going to be Your second opportunity to get there. I don't think, you know, most people would view you in that top echelon of quarterbacks where Mahomes is at the top, right underneath him, you have Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, you know, and so I think it's sort of. For Hertz, this is an opportunity to kind of elevate your legacy, elevate the way that you're looked at, elevate the way your team is looked at. There's a lot on the line, whereas I think with the Chiefs, there's probably a chance to really burnish your legacy with the three Pete. But I think the way that history is going to look at you is sort of already set in stone not.
Jason McIntyre
To get two X's and O's, but I don't know if it was Hasselbeck or Sanchez yesterday who had a good point. You know, left tackle had been an issue for the Chiefs, so they moved Tooney out. He's been great. But for the Eagles, you need interior blocking. It's paramount against, you know, their two big horses, Davis and Carter inside. Do you think the Chiefs play a little musical chairs and kick Tooney back inside?
Albert Breer
Yeah, I J. Mac, I'm glad you brought that up because I think that's one of the more underrated pieces of this game and decisions to be made in this game by Andy Reid and Matt Nagy and, you know, all the guys who work with the offensive line. That left tackle spot was a revolving door for much of the year, and it was a real problem. It's a credit to Joe Tunney, who's been one of the NFL's ultimate Ironman. He's going for his fifth ring here, you know, one two at Brady's, one two with Mahomes. For him to be able to do that and sort of stop the revolving door and stabilize, it's been amazing. But you're right to look at it like that. The Eagles have good edge guys, but they don't have a great, great edge guy. And they've got Jordan Davis and Jaylen Carter inside. Jaylen Carter during the playoffs has been a true game record. Like you could argue. He really won that game at the end in the divisional round against the Rams in the snow. And so, you know, if you take Tuni and leave him at left tackle, then left guard becomes a hole and they've got the opportunity to match Jaylen Carter up and create a mismatch there. And then you've got to handle that. So what do you feel more comfortable with do you feel more comfortable with Wanye Morris or DJ Humphries, who's been banged up but has a lot of experience at left tackle handling the edge guys, which you might still be at a disadvantage there, but a little less so? Or do you feel like you need to put Tooney out of left tackle because that's the mix that's worked, and then just help with the guards on the, on the, on the, on the, on the defensive tackles? I think it's a. It's a pivotal. I think it's a pivotal decision for the Chiefs coaches to make going into this. This game, and it'll be interesting to see what they do. And maybe it's a mix of both. You know, maybe it's a field thing where they rotate a little bit in the first quarter and then go with. With what's working.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I like Nolan Smith on the outside against Morris all day for the Eagles, but let me, Let me go. So we saw the Buffalo Bills struggle with the Tush, push badly against the Chiefs. I'm just curious, do you think that was more about what the Chiefs were doing or. The Bills are just not very good at it? And I don't. It probably won't apply to the Eagles, who are great at it.
Albert Breer
No, I think it does apply to the Eagles to some degree, where I think Steve Spagnolo, his defense is so versatile, and he's able to do so many different things with the group of guys that he has.
Jason McIntyre
He.
Albert Breer
He said to me last year during the playoffs that this is the smartest group I've ever had. So this was during last year's playoffs. And then as I talked to him this year, he's like. And this group is even smarter than that one. You know, his point's been like. His point. The point he's made to me a few times is like that. You know, he's always had smart guys. His defense requires having smart guys, but there'll always be, like, a few guys out there that are kind of iffy. The difference with these two groups he's had the last two years is that everybody knows what they're doing and what that allows for. It allows for you to do different things, to mess with the matchups because you can move guys around and play them in different spots, and they're smart enough to learn all the different spots and the different responsibilities, which allows you to play these situations the way that they were able to play them against Buffalo. Now, that said, I think we both know that stopping those short yardage plays against the Eagles is a totally different kettle of fish. And so I think there's a little bit of a cascading effect here. It's stopping Saquon Barkley on first down. And then if you can get them in second along, that's where you got to stop. Jalen hurts running the ball because generally that's when he runs the ball the most. And that's where he creates those third and shorts, those fourth and shorts, to put them in a position to really take advantage of being the best team in short yardage there is in football. So I think there's a really cool, like, element of game within the game there where, yes, the Chiefs are better at those things than a lot of other teams, but they've got to be capable of staying out of them, too, because if you say you're in four of them, you know, over the course of the game, well, it's easier to say, like, let's stop three of those and maybe one gets. Gets biased. Then it's going to be if you've got to face eight or 10 of them.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
All right, let's look at the NFL at large. You're as plugged in as anybody. Talking, texting Cooper cup, your best guess at some landing spots, some teams perhaps interested in in Cup. And then I'm curious as to the damage that does to the Rams and Stafford, that was his boy on the team. They were tight. I wonder if something's afoot with the Rams that maybe we're not aware of yet. Why?
Albert Breer
Are you talking about Stafford maybe moving or.
Jason McIntyre
Yep.
Albert Breer
Yeah. So I would say with cup, like, just in a vacuum, you know, things have sort of, I think, turned a little bit over the last year or two to some degree. Like, he and Puka are great players. They're a little redundant to one another in that they're both maybe best inside. Neither guy's a burner. And so, you know, you know, when you're building an offense and the way that Sean McVay builds his offense, there's a way of doing it where you want to kind of build the basketball team and have all those guys do different things. And so as great as those two guys are individually, you know, you maybe you look at it at the Rams and it's like, is it a luxury to have two of them out there? As for landing spots, I mean, I think, you know, Cooper would be great with a young quarterback, you know, so could he be, like, a really good number two for Washington? Right. Like, imagine him with Terry McLaurin on the other Side where he doesn't have to be the number one, and as a security blanket for Jaden Daniels. So maybe Jaden Daniels has to run a little bit less. That's the sort of situation where I think it would be ideal. The same way the Panthers a couple years ago brought in Adam Thielen to try, try to be like, okay, like, we want to give Bryce Young somebody that he can count on, a smart receiver who can do everything. I think cup can be that guy for a young quarterback. As for Stafford, I think this one's really up in the air. J. Mac, I mean, that contract negotiation was strained last year. It took. I mean, it took the entire off season to get it done. They took all the guaranteed money out of 2025, moved money up to 2024, and created a decision point after this year. And so by the middle of March, they got a roster bonus due. Then they're gonna have to make a decision on what they want to do with Matthew Stafford going forward. And I know this, like, if I'm a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers, I'm at least calling right now to see if he's available, because I don't think it's a sure thing that he's back. In part because if he was looking for a market correction last year on his contract, chances are he's going to be looking for the same sort of market correction again this year. And I'm not sure where the Rams appetite is for that when you consider what is there, seven or eight or nine quarterbacks making over $50 million per year right now.
Jason McIntyre
All right, real quick, we got a minute left. Miles Garrett. I floated Washington and the Rams as options. Just guessing. How about you? Any. Any teams for Myles Garrett?
Albert Breer
Detroit.
Jason McIntyre
Yes, Detroit with Hutchinson. Anyone else?
Albert Breer
I love Detroit. I. I just like the idea of. Look like they've had so much positive momentum the last couple of years, right? Like. And everything's gone so right for them the last two years. And then they have the shocking loss of the commanders and they lose a half dozen coaches. Both their coordinators are gone. It sort of feels like some of the momentum has gone the other way for them. So they have Aiden Hutchinson coming back off the injury. They're going to pay Aiden Hutchinson. What better way to kind of make sure that he has some Runway and coming back off the injury and the defense has a real strength to build off of. Then you get Aiden Hutchinson back from injury, you'll have Elaine McNeil coming back from injury. And then, oh, by the way, you've got Miles Garrett out there. The key for me with Miles Garrett is he's got to match up with your timeline, you know what I'm saying? Like, so he's 29 years old and you have to be a team that's in a position where you can say over the next two years or so, we need to be in position to compete for a championship. Or we risk. By the time we get there, maybe this guy is starting to go downhill a little bit. Detroit's the perfect team for that. Detroit's right in the championship window. They've got cap space, their roster's loaded. There may not be five or six rookies that make their team next year, so their draft picks are a little bit more expendable. I love the idea of having Aiden Hutchinson and Miles Garrett opposite each other. Maybe sort of the same way Denver had Von Miller and aging DeMarcus Ware on the other side about a decade ago.
Jason McIntyre
Albert Brear, Monday morning quarterback. Great stuff. Thank you, Albert. We are back after this.
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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Hour 1 - The Chiefs are the new villain
Release Date: February 4, 2025
In the inaugural hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, Jason McIntyre takes the helm in Colin Cowherd's absence. The episode delves into the evolving landscape of professional sports, focusing primarily on the Kansas City Chiefs' newfound status as the NFL's "villains" and significant shifts within the NBA's player empowerment era.
Jason McIntyre opens the discussion by drawing a parallel between the Kansas City Chiefs and the former New England Patriots dynasty. He asserts, “We got some great topics, excellent guests. I'm going to kind of blow your mind with an NBA take in like seven minutes. But we've got to start, obviously with the NFL. The Super Bowl week is fully upon us” (02:54).
McIntyre reminisces about the Patriots' rise and how their dominance led to widespread disdain across the league. He highlights the impact of controversies like Spygate and Deflategate, stating, “But at that point, people were so sick of the Patriots that they had become Villains” (05:53).
The conversation shifts to the Chiefs' current reputation. Patrick Mahomes addresses the "villains" label, saying, “We embrace who we are, and we believe we play the game the right way... And if winning football games makes you a villain, we're going to go keep out there and doing it” (05:47-05:53). McIntyre reflects on this sentiment, noting, “I'm ready for new teams, but if you watch how they play, they're a fun, good football team” (06:00).
McIntyre expresses skepticism about the Chiefs' consistent favorable officiating: “Every pivotal play involving a Chiefs game, no lie... some sort of conspiracy afoot” (06:00). He questions whether this perception is justified or merely a byproduct of the Chiefs' success.
McIntyre provides a historical overview of the NBA's player empowerment era, tracing its roots back to LeBron James and the formation of super teams. He explains, “LeBron... beats up or maybe 2007, beats the Detroit Pistons... Danny Ainge in Boston saw that and very quickly realized... they built the first super team” (09:00).
A significant portion of the discussion centers around Luka Doncic's unexpected trade from the Dallas Mavericks. McIntyre remarks, “This player empowerment stuff because one of the guys in the morning meeting said something I just totally forgot about” (13:00). He analyzes the broader impact on the league, questioning whether ownership is reclaiming control from players.
McIntyre observes, “It's like the owners are looking their star players in the eye and saying, no more player empowerment. I'm running the show” (14:37). He cites Kevin Durant's move to Phoenix as evidence of this shift, pondering potential future trades and their ramifications.
The trade landscape is examined, with specific mentions of Anthony Edwards and Kevin Durant. McIntyre speculates on Durant's potential fit with the Golden State Warriors, considering their current standing: “Steph Curry, 36, turns 37 later this year. Come on, guys...” (24:00).
The conversation pivots to the pressure surrounding Patrick Mahomes as the Chiefs aim for a three-peat. Albert Breer contributes, stating, “I think Mahomes has played so well in so many of these settings that if he were to throw an interception at the end of the game, it's not going to really affect his legacy” (40:22).
McIntyre contrasts Mahomes' situation with that of Jimmy Butler in the NBA, noting Butler's intensified scrutiny: “Jimmy Butler's kind of, you know, thinking he's still got power and he's got no juice, and it's like failing miserably” (27:52). The discussion highlights Butler's gritty reputation and the friction it has created within his team dynamics.
Jason McIntyre and Albert Breer delve into the Chiefs' tactical adjustments against the Philadelphia Eagles, particularly focusing on the left tackle position. Breer highlights the importance of stabilizing this role: “It's been a credit to Joe Tunney... to stabilize” (38:23).
Breer analyzes the Chiefs' defensive strategies, emphasizing the need to counter the Eagles' short-yardage plays and key players like Davis and Carter: “Stopping Saquon Barkley on first down... it's a totally different kettle of fish” (44:03).
The discussion shifts to potential trades involving key NFL players such as Cooper Kupp and Matthew Stafford. Breer suggests Detroit as a favorable destination for Kupp, citing team dynamics and defensive strengths: “Detroit's the perfect team for that... they've got cap space, their roster's loaded” (48:25).
Breer elaborates on Matthew Stafford's situation with the Los Angeles Rams, pointing out contract negotiations and potential interest from teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers: “The Rams appetite is... seven or eight or nine quarterbacks making over $50 million per year right now” (46:08).
In this comprehensive episode, Jason McIntyre navigates through pivotal changes in both the NFL and NBA, emphasizing the shifting power dynamics between players and owners. The Kansas City Chiefs' emergence as the NFL's new "villains" mirrors past sentiments towards the Patriots, while recent NBA trades signal a possible end to the player empowerment era. Additionally, the episode touches upon strategic game-day decisions and high-stakes player movements, offering listeners an in-depth analysis of current sports landscapes.
Notable Quotes:
Patrick Mahomes on Embracing the Villains Label:
“We embrace who we are, and we believe we play the game the right way... And if winning football games makes you a villain, we're going to go keep out there and doing it.” (05:47)
Jason McIntyre on Player Empowerment Shift:
“It's like the owners are looking their star players in the eye and saying, no more player empowerment. I'm running the show.” (14:37)
Albert Breer on Jimmy Butler's Situation:
“Jimmy Butler is an absolute dog and you think everyone would want him, but he's kind of killed his value with these actions in Miami.” (28:03)
This detailed summary captures the essence of the podcast episode, highlighting the critical discussions and insights shared by Jason McIntyre and Albert Breer. Whether you're an avid listener or new to "The Herd," this summary provides a comprehensive overview of the key topics explored in this episode.