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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
He shoots a three, you can catch.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, they just have a coaching issue that remains a problem even if you don't want to admit it.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, let's start with that. The Eagles are officially the strangest great sports franchise. Not just in the NFL, maybe all of sports. Last 25 years, they've had four coaches. They've had Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, Doug Peterson, Nick Sariani. All but one have gotten to a Super bowl and they fired three of them. And if Nick Ceriani lost his first playoff game this year, despite his record, which is one of the top five winning percentage records of all time, they'd fire him, too. They got star receivers complaining, players going on local radio banging on the culture. You've got Sirianni on the sidelines getting into another beef. They run coordinators in and out of the building. It's 247 drama. They have all the qualities of a bad or poorly run franchise, yet all the Eagles do is win. I thought Pittsburgh's defense was great. Then I watched Jalen hurts yesterday. 19 completions to his top two receivers. I mean, again, Pittsburgh is well coached, great defense. They did whatever they wanted to and they were even good in the first quarter. The Eagles are never good in the first quarter. And that's another part about the Eagles that virtually makes no sense. But I'm going to pick them to win the Super Bowl. I, I, I just, I don't even know what to make of them. They have the deepest roster in the league. They have young stars, stars in their prime, old stars. Only team in the league that has like three levels of greatness. They have the most aggressive general manager Howie Roseman. They have the most physically aggressive head coach, their owner occasionally Jeffrey Lurie, a brilliant man, sometimes medals, owner, gm, head coach, quarterback. It is a lot of alpha, it is a lot of puffing your chest out. But I love their aggressiveness. They don't apologize who what they are, who they are. They don't apologize. And Buffalo love them, but I don't trust them. Kansas City's barely beating anybody. They can't protect Mahomes. Baltimore playoffs are there kryptonite. Detroit. I mean, they're running out of players. I'm going to take Philadelphia. They got five different ways to beat you. The layering of talent's incredible. Sirianni's opening press conference was regrettable. He laughed at it. I think he's one of those coaches and one of those people in America. This is not a bad thing. He wasn't quite ready for the job. He was bailing water and he had to go through coordinators. But I think he's kind of found his way between the talk radio in that city and the relentlessly aggressive fans. The city matches the team. The team matches the city. They. And because their offense is so dramatic, you overlook their defense, which is number one and number two on third down. And so they, they held the Steelers to 10 first downs. I mean, honestly, I was thinking about this this morning. What the Eagles are is basically that couple that constantly argues and nobody thinks the marriage will ever stay intact. And they just had their 45th wedding anniversary. It shouldn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. They got rookies in the secondary, drama on the sidelines, wide receivers don't privately love the quarterback. Young old offensive line, D line, crazy head coach. And it just works. And once again, there's this scrutiny and I'm as guilty as anybody. There's this scrutiny around the organization because all the. Their qualities are what teams like Tennessee have and Carolina have. And Philadelphia is running through coaches. Who fires Andy Reid? Doug Peterson wins a Super bowl, goes toe to toe with Brady and Belichick, and they're always left standing and they're always winning. And the scrutiny just piles up. And Jalen hurts, aggressed that scrutiny yesterday. So that's what y'all want to see, huh? The scrutiny is never, never ending. It's nothing new. And so that's something that I, and I appreciate being told I Can't. And that we can't. And I know that I lead this team and it takes a lot out of it. It demands a lot out of you. Listen, don't trust my picks, but I think Philadelphia is going to win the super bowl. And they're crazy and they're arguing all the time and they can't even go to a holiday party and somebody's throwing salsa at somebody else. It just works. And they're so talented. And Jalen Hurts has got this sort of stoicism. He's sort of this calm. You know, big college programs, you know, Bama says, no thanks. Oklahoma's like, we'll take you. And his personality, he always feels like he's the cooler. Like in Vegas, they did the old story when somebody would get hot at the poker table, they'd send over the cooler. Somebody with bad luck, like Jalen Hurts is the good luck, but he just brings the temperature down in the room. He's the perfect fit. It may be the most dysfunctional perfect team ever. Good for them. So Buffalo beat Detroit. And there's a lot to say about this game, but let me just start by saying this. I started watching football in 1972. I was a little kid and I watched the first on a black and white tv. I watched the Washington Redskins beat, lose to the Miami Dolphins in a Super Bowl. That's the first game I remember watching. I love the NBA, the Portland Trail Blazers in the early 70s. And I. That was the first NFL game I remember watching. And then I became like a Washington Husky fan. And I remember for Robin Earl and Warren Moon and blah, blah, blah, you don't care. But Josh Allen's the most talented quarterback I've ever seen. I'll die on that hill. Don't confuse trophies with talent. Brady's got more trophies than Mahomes. Patrick's more talented. I always thought John Elway was like the greatest athlete. Remember, he was going to play either for the Yankees or the NFL. Greatest athlete to play quarterback. Compared to Josh Allen, John Elway looks small and lumbering. The kid's unbelievable. I've never seen a quarterback this good. I mean, size, arm, mobility, a plus plus plus plus it's a little LeBron in his prime. It's a little Ohtani, it's a little Tiger where you can put the best athletes in the world out there. And he's a notch above that. And I mean, once Buffalo finally got a legit running back so he could take the Superman cape off occasionally. He doesn't have any Kryptonite I mean, since entering the NFL, he has the second most rushing touchdowns. He's a quarterback. He has the second most rushing touchdowns. You know who number one is? A running back. Derrick Henry. I mean, Buffalo is allowed 86 points in the last two weeks. And my take is yeah, yeah, so what? They'll get to the super bowl because Josh Allen in that time has 10 touchdowns. I worry about their defense. They are getting some starters back. But I'm watching Mahomes, who's obviously so gifted, limping around, they can't protect him. And I'm saying, God, there he is, so vulnerable. This team. Josh Allen has not taken a sack in a month. Good luck getting a hold of him. It's week 15. He looks as fresh as newly cut flowers. Big strong arm moving. You can't get to him now, you should be able to. There's enough to grab onto, but you can't sack him. So I feel like I've always said there's one athlete in my life that I didn't get a seat. Perform Sandy Koufax, like one athlete. I feel like I kind of got jipped off. I was born too late. We're all lucky we were born in a time you can watch Josh Allen because I've never seen anything like it. Again, they're missing three defensive starters. It's not. It's not purdy on the defensive end, but remember that saying, Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. You remember that? Were they talking about Superman or Josh Allen? Because as good as Mahomes is, he's not this. And I love him. And as good as Brady was, he's not Mahomes. That's the best I've ever seen. For years I thought it was elway. Even Sean McDermott, you just run. Sean McDermott gets to see him at practice every day and he's at a loss for words. I mean, just incredible, Incredible performance week after week. And what more can you say? I mean, it's. It's.
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Jason McIntyre
We're watching every week. We're watching an incredible player play incredibly consistent week after week. And I'll let you guys film the.
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Colin Cowherd
Rest of the sentence. For the record, the last two weeks he's been able to play indoors. So in a weird way, Buffalo, the cold weather, wind, outdoor is a negative. Go look at his last two weeks when he got to play indoors. The Lions defense may beat up. Okay, it may be beat up. The Rams defense wasn't. The Rams defense wasn't beat up when he's allowed to play indoors. Weather is not a negative. It's like high school stuff. It's like that Division 1 high school player. He runs for two touchdowns, he throws for two touchdowns, he catches touchdowns. Think about how great you have to be to be a pro. Athlet. You were the best player in your conference. Some of you, if you ever played, were probably the best player in your region, may have been the best player in your state. That's how good you have to be. And what's remarkable is the classic American story. He wasn't offered a college scholarship. He ended up sending tapes out. He ends up at Wyoming where he was really talented but didn't get the great coaching. And his first year in the NFL, all sorts of warts. He was reckless, a lot of interceptions. But you could see this remarkable player. And now he's been transformed in front of our eyes to however you want to describe this. Can't take my eyes off him. I really do. I mean, I feel like with Detroit falling apart, Philadelphia and Buffalo, with Mahomes limping and the Lions falling apart, so much of this league is attrition. And I know, I know Philadelphia probably is favored because they have the better defense. But I would sign up for Eagles, Buffalo Bills today. Yesterday, Jim Nant said this is America's team. I don't think he's wrong. It's not the Cowboys. Let's. I mean, it's. I. I'm not even going to mention them in the first hour today. I'm not. I. I have nothing on my show today to mention the Cowboys. If they come up, it's an accident. If that's America's team, I'm for it. Because he's a great American athlete and a great American story. J. Mac, I know recency bias, but when you watch in the last two weeks playing indoors, that Rams defense is pretty good.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Yeah. You also mentioned the Lions are banged up. Just breaking here in the last five minutes. Reports are out that David Montgomery, the hammer running back of the Lions MCL injury, could be lost for the season.
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Colin Cowherd
Wow.
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Jason McIntyre
Just came out.
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Colin Cowherd
So Gibbs is a little bit of the lightning.
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Jason McIntyre
He's awesome. Montgomery, yesterday so much we talked about this.
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Colin Cowherd
Remember the year Mahomes got to the super bowl and had neither one of his starting tackles? It feels like Detroit can win one way now. Wild shootout.
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Jason McIntyre
And your packers, you talked about them in the off season. They looked spicy last night. Oh, my gosh.
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Colin Cowherd
They become a little bit of a power running team.
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Jason McIntyre
I would be afraid of that. Team.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I'll tell you who I'd be afraid of. Baker and the Bucks.
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Jason McIntyre
Oh, yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I would want no part of the Buccaneers. Can't run on them, can't guard Mike Evans. Baker's playing at his best. A little reckless, but with house money because nobody thinks they're going to win. Jason Light has stacked that roster for years. The gm, one of the best scouts ever in the league. Yeah, I would not I. If I'm Philadelphia. I mean, by the way, didn't. Weren't they the last team to beat Philly? I mean. I mean, they given Detroit, Philly, Kansas City. They've given everybody troubles. I mean, what they did to the Chargers Yesterday, the number one defense in the league dropped a 40 burger in LA. That was wow. That was a wow outcome.
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Jason McIntyre
NFC, kind of. After the Eagles, there's like five or six teams down with the Lions injured. I don't know. Is Washington in that group? Are they close?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think I listen, I think Darnold and the Vikings and Baker and the Bucks will be underdogs in these playoff games, but there's something about Tampa's ability to defend the run. You cannot. So now the Lions are down to one running back. You will not run on Tampa.
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Jason McIntyre
And also we got to give the Rams some credit.
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Colin Cowherd
They're. They're. They're coming hard.
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Jason McIntyre
And Geno Smith goes down and you don't want to see that Rams offense in the postseason.
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Colin Cowherd
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Things change. They're the favorite. They're more IBM than a startup. You gotta move to a new way of seeing the world. And by the way, they have 13 defenders in the IR. So the bigger problem is Dan Campbell now doesn't trust his defense. And so I think it's made a, an aggressive coach a little hyper aggressive because he knows they can't make stops, especially against Josh Allen. So I do understand where he's going. But there were moves to be made earlier in the game and this was not one of them. So their, their season feels like it's fading fast and they're getting desperate. And now you've got word. J. Mac just said this. David Montgomery, one of their two excellent running backs suffering an MCL injury. He may be gone. Will that create more desperation? Here's Dan Campbel on an ill timed onside kick that went backwards. I thought we were gonna get that ball. And it's one of Bates best kicks that I've seen him have. That was a, that was a big.
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Jason McIntyre
Kicker at the end.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, that thing took a good jump on us and Hollis made a heck of a play on it. And you know, obviously now sitting here, hindsight after them taking it down to the three yard line. Yeah, I wish I wouldn't have done that. But is what it is. Listen, he's sitting there thinking, okay, we're within 10 if we return the onside kick, we get it down to three because they were moving the ball and then it's anybody's game. Like I get it with the old onside kick format, but the new one, you have to announce it, everybody knows it's coming. You put on the hands team and you see what happens. It's just something most coaches wouldn't do and it's not that surprising of an outcome because you know what's coming and you've never had less surprise in a play that is basically its number one gotcha. Is the surprise part of it. And that's gone. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, my man, let's start with more, more injury news, man. NFL walking wounded. And that's Patrick Mahomes. He left midway through the fourth yesterday after getting twisted up here. It did not look great. Hobbled off. He hobbled out of the locker room afterward. I'm sure everybody saw him get on a cart. And his backup is Carson Wentz. Now the Chiefs have a three game in 11 day stretch. Chiefs fans don't blame anybody except the NFL, okay? They, they need you on Christmas day. Colin. Here's Mahomes on his injury.
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Colin Cowherd
Usually it's kind of the day after when you kind of get a good, good sense of it, but I feel like I could have finished the game in different circumstances, but I thought the smart decision I think we, we talked about was to put Carson in and he's played a lot of football and he, and he finished the game well. Now we'll just get after the rehab part of it and try to be ready for next week.
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Jason McIntyre
So the line has been adjusted. The Chiefs are favored over the Texans now. Houston - 2 1/2 in Kansas City.
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Colin Cowherd
Be careful.
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Jason McIntyre
Saturday game.
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Colin Cowherd
Carson Wentz can play a little after that.
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Jason McIntyre
The Chiefs have Christmas Day Wednesday against the Steelers. Again, you're not looking at the mri, you're not in the room with the doctor. But at some point you got to say, hey, listen, we got a left tackle issue.
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Colin Cowherd
No, D.J.
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Jason McIntyre
Humphreys, right? They had, I think they kicked the guard out to tackle who played pretty well. But Colin, this is a rough stretch here. I don't know. I would, if it were me, I would consider resting Mahomes against the Texans, but I don't know, I would, I.
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Colin Cowherd
Would rest him against The Texans and T.J. watton, the Steelers.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, the concern there is if you lose both and the Bills win and you end up tied, Buffalo has the tiebreaker. They then have home field advantage. Chiefs fans will say, well, we didn't have it last year. We're fine. I think every Kansas City fan knows this team is not as good as last year.
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Colin Cowherd
I think they can absolutely beat Houston. I mean Houston, honestly, I don't know what they are. I don't, I can't figure them out. And I forget about betting. I just can't figure them out. I think they're well coached. I like their quarterback. They've got some good players. So I don't know, week to week, In a weird division. I don't know what I get with Houston. I have a hard time thinking Carson Wentz with that defense. I think, I think Kansas City, they.
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Jason McIntyre
Could, they could still win that game, you know, 10, six or whatever.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Houston.
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Jason McIntyre
See, I mean I had them against Miami and they covered, but just watching them, they. It feels like their offense is kind of broken. Did you see Joe Mixon had 12 carries for 23 yards? The Texans leading rusher was some big running back who on a fake punt went like for 35 yards.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, mixing got banged up.
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Jason McIntyre
So Houston does not look sharp offense.
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Colin Cowherd
No, they don't. Listen, we. A lot of people talked about sophomore slump, a year of regression. Everybody's got tape on C.J. stroud. That could possibly be it. Also, I think the AFC now, I mean, just be honest, Denver's better. The Chargers are better. Like, I mean there's a lot of Pittsburgh's better. So I think the afc, you got a lot of better on good teams. So I don't think they're necessarily much worse. I just think there's been injuries again the second year for quarterbacks. Everybody knows what you are now. It can be tough.
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Jason McIntyre
I'll say this, the Texans fans listening. Bobby Slowik has regressed considerably as an offensive coordinator this year. His sequencing is just it. I don't want to call it trash, but it is very bad. Colin, like he's running all the time into stacked boxes. They're going nowhere. Colin. They had less than I think 200 yards of offense yesterday against Miami.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Stroud had 130 yards passing. That was it.
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Jason McIntyre
That's not going to cut it. I don't know. I'm concerned for Houston. Doesn't look good.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, let's be honest though. They got ahead of schedule last year. You true. Right. We thought they were in a total rebuild and they made the playoffs. Let's. Let's not compare them to a Philadelphia Buffalo. I think they're still in a rebuild.
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Jason McIntyre
Right. But remember they went out and got digs and then he got hurt. That was like a. Hey, that's our, that's our shot. Like, I don't know, It's. It's just disappointing if you're a Houston fan. Next up. Hey, we got to talk about your guy. How about your man man, Bo Nicks. What an up and down game he had yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
Love him.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm not gonna be negative. I'm not going to reference the three interceptions. There's one on FS1 or the what, 75 yards passing midway through the first half.
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Colin Cowherd
How was he?
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Jason McIntyre
That's all that matters. That's all that matters. They got the win. They had I believe 193 yards of offense. But let's hear Sean Payton Talk about QB1 Bonix.
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Colin Cowherd
In a game like today, we were felt like you know, down there for a while especially the first half and you know, good teams respond on a day like today. You know, good teams find ways to win and playoffs team find ways to.
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Jason McIntyre
Win these close ones and I felt.
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Colin Cowherd
Like that's what we did. So it's a sign of a good football team and we have that Sean Payton coach of the year. Can we be honest now? Well, when I suggested in the preseason, little old humble American honesty broker suggested they'll double the win total of Vegas. Suggests Vegas had five wins. I said I think they're an 8, 9 team. The defense is now for real. They have a real pass rush. And Bo Nix wasn't great early but either was Anthony Richardson. The difference is after half one of them rebound and that you got to give. And I got nothing against Dyken but say this for Bo Nix, he remained aggressive. Sean Payton never loses confidence. He's a rookie quarterback. I'll take Bo Nix making mistakes they don't. Sean Payton never shows a loss of confidence. With him they'll throw it down the field. He's not dinking and Duncan, he's throwing that ball down the middle of the field all the time.
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Jason McIntyre
I feel like we probably should mention the Jonathan Taylor play. I don't know if we have video. Colin, I was on the colds yesterday. They're up 137 control the first half. Jonathan Taylor breaks off a 40 yard touchdown. That looks like it's a, it's a lock. He's rolling in and he does the stupid thing. This is a veteran, not like a first or second year.
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Colin Cowherd
It was funny because I was telling my buddy John Middelkoff I never viewed Jonathan Taylor as one of those guys. Yeah, like I've never seen him as immature, squirrely, a taunter. I've always seen him as like smart, veteran, dependable. It's like, oh, now I have to put him in that camp of the guys.
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Jason McIntyre
You can't trust one of those guys. They were 13, seven.
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Colin Cowherd
No, they were controlling the football.
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Jason McIntyre
About to be 20 to seven.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Jason McIntyre
You know, Bo Nix would be in throwing there and he's been struggling.
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Colin Cowherd
And because of that fumble, Denver gets.
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Jason McIntyre
The ball, gets the ball back. And the scoring run after that fumble was 24, 0 for Denver. Denver Colts were resorted to trick plays. I mean, I've never seen a trick play like the throwback.
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Colin Cowherd
They melted as a team.
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Jason McIntyre
Benito was sitting on it. That Shane Steichen. I think you got to question a lot of things. Listen, I've defended Anthony Richardson. Colin, I know you watch that game close.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I don't think. I don't. I'll say this.
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Jason McIntyre
I don't know what the hell he's doing.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, I don't know if he's an NFL starting quarterback.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I have my doubts.
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Colin Cowherd
He's an NFL athlete.
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Jason McIntyre
You want to give guys a chance, right?
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. I mean, we got multiple games here.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Five turnovers for the team and he was almost around all of them.
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Colin Cowherd
You and I have both said this. The Colts roster, they got dudes. I mean, that's as frustrated as Denver has been in two months.
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Jason McIntyre
They were in control of that game.
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Colin Cowherd
They not only were in control, they were flummoxed. Bonix was lost. I mean, it looked like they were playing with extra men. Defensively, Denver couldn't do anything. And so it's like the Colts don't have a roster issue. That is a good roster. They got a quarterback issue.
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Jason McIntyre
I'll say this. If Buffalo somehow gets the one and Denver faces KC in the first round, that would be really, really fun because that's a. Those have been really good games historically. I don't think it'll happen a long time. Anyways, final story, Colin, is college football. We, you know, we kind of discussed the Heisman Trophy last week.
- [32:56]
Colin Cowherd
We didn't discuss it. You argued.
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Jason McIntyre
I thought it was a fun, healthy decision discussion. Anyways, you. You were right. Travis Hunter got the dub. But it was the closest race since 2009. He, Travis Hunter got 552 first place votes. Ashton Genti of Boise got 309. Hunter only won by 214 points. You see the voting on the screen there. Listen, I love me some Cam Ward. How on earth do you give him six first place votes like that could.
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Colin Cowherd
Have swung the whole thing.
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Jason McIntyre
And Dylan Gabriel, who's really good with Oregon, close race. I do still think Ashton Genti got jobbed. Obviously, Travis Hunter is a superstar. Well, take it away.
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Colin Cowherd
I think the first two players are going to be tremendous NFL players. I think Travis Hunter, now, receivers make more than corners. So he's going to want to be a receiver in the NFL. I think he could be a top corner in the NFL. He's a good kid. I hear nothing but good things about him. You know, it's funny. Colorado's got a little flash to their program. But I trust my executives that I talk to and they like Shador and they like Travis Hunter. They're good kids. And I think he's going to be a sauce gardener level corner. But he's so gifted that you'll probably have to put him on some offense. I mean, unless he's going to a bad team. So if you're the New York Giants or you're the Raiders and you got him, you'd play him on both ways. I would. I would put him now. Now what's hard is when you have a quarterback. Quarterbacks don't want to have a receiver that's a part time receiver. So he can't be a number one receiver in the NFL. He may not be a number two, but I would. He is such a gifted player. And by the way, the running back from Boise State is great. He did have six touchdowns and almost 300 yards against Georgia Southern. He's a very good player. He's a first round running back. My argument last week is who you play matters in college football. And how do I know that? Because the Big Ten has what, four teams in the playoff and the ACC has two. Like who you play in college football matters. It doesn't in the NFL if you win your division, you get a playoff race, you get a playoff spot.
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Jason McIntyre
So I'm going to, I'm excited for you to ask some of these coaches and guests we have on the show. Ken is, is playing two ways, wide receiver, quarterback. Is that even feasible in the NFL? Because think about this. Travis Hunter, let's say he's lining up on defense, he's got to go tackle Derrick Henry and then he's got to go out and catch passes like three minutes later that.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's. Is it a little, A little like Ohtani? You can do both. But the Dodgers want him to go to the bullpen. The Dodgers want him to hit. Okay, we can ask you out of the bullpen. We don't want you to be a starter. For the Angels, it was such a novelty. And they don't draw like the Dodgers. The Angels are like starting, pitching, bat cleanup. The really good organization. The Dodgers go, we'll have you bat, you can do some pitching. We'd prefer you don't. But again, Travis Hunter's not going to the Dodgers. He's going to go to a bad football team that needs him. So I think they're going to let him do both.
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Jason McIntyre
You can do both ways in college. It's not. I would say it's way easier than the pros. Do you know how hard it is, the physical nature of the NFL to go out and defend superstar? You're going to go defend Jefferson and then you got to go tackle Aaron Jones in space and then next thing hey, go, go run a 50 yard go route. Like that's just not again possible.
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Colin Cowherd
I think a lot of it is quarterback. So let's say for instance, he goes to the Raiders and the Raiders go get Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is not going to make a part time wide receiver his number one because that's all timing. So I think especially if you get receivers that have been around the league, it's like, dude, Tom Brady wouldn't let Garoppolo take snaps in New England. Tom wouldn't throw it to a young receiver because he didn't trust him. So being a part time receiver is hard. Yeah.
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Jason McIntyre
So what are you going to do? You're going to be in the wide receiver room and then sprint to the cornerback room and learn what's going on there. And there's certain packages for the I just, it sounds fun playing two ways, but I don't think it's realistic. Well, let's ask the coaches. Let's see what they say.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
Well, first two drives for green Bay last night up in the Pacific Northwest, they ate up 10 minutes of clock. They took a lead. Game was over and with the Lions now, Montgomery may not play for the rest of the year. The running back. They're losing multiple defensive players. I think Green Bay is the biggest obstacle for the Philadelphia Eagles to get to the Super Bowl. If you did any receding, I do Philly 1 and Green Bay 2. Detroit's falling apart. The Rams feel like they're one more draft away. The Vikings. Sam Darnold's never been to the playoffs. I find the packers so easy to root for. They're such a smart, well run business. Youngest team in the league. They develop quarterbacks better than any organization in the history of the National Football Football League. There's no crazy owner. You get incredibly High efficiency and virtually no ego. The Josh Jacobs move is just so Green Bay, like everybody a year ago, was like, stay away from running backs. And Green Bay said, no, no, we're going to go get Josh Jacobs from the Raiders. And we like Aaron Jones, but we think he is peaked. And we want a power running back, which is obviously so they're less reliant on Jordan Love, who they love. And they've developed to throw 30 times a game. So now Jordan Love can throw when he wants to throw. Not absolutely has to throw. So the Josh Jacobs move, it's so smart. It's so Green Bay. It's not that they don't love Jordan Love, but the packers never put their quarterbacks in position to fail. They always hire offensive coaches. You can never. I mean, let's be honest about it. They always protect their quarterbacks. Second fewest sacks allowed in the NFL. Jordan Love. They just have figured this league out. And you can say Favre only got one ring and Aaron Rodgers only got one ring. You know what? Go ask Buffalo. You'll take one ring. Go ask Minnesota. That's had many good teams. So. And. And I just look at Detroit falling apart and the Rams being still a year away. In my opinion, they need another draft tackle, a Cor. A perimeter receiver, maybe more depth at the linebacking core. I think Green Bay's got it all. And again, so much of this league is attrition. Are you healthy when it matters? Isn't it crazy that the packers may open with a road game in the playoffs? I just. I thought they imposed their will on Seattle, a team that had been playing well. And here was Jordan Love after. Yeah, I feel really good. I think we're in a really good spot. I think we gotta do the same thing we've talked about all season. Just take it one game at a time and finish this season off and, you know, be where we want to be for playoffs. But I like where we're at. And we just got to keep figuring out ways to get better, keep. Keep pushing each other and find ways to get these wins to end the season off. But I like where we're at. Now. Think about this here. This is Green Bay. Remember Jordan Love? He sat for three years and then his first six starts. Even Matt LaFleur was like, yeah, this isn't great. Other organizations would have asked Jordan Love to play first year out of Utah State, would have had a bad offensive line, would have had no run game. Green Bay, because Jordan Love wasn't ready to play. Green Bay drafts Him lets him sit behind a legend. By the time he takes over, they've got all the components to win. They draft him young receivers and tight ends who he can grow generationally with. They get him, as they always do, a good old line. And then the next step is Josh Jacobs. I can't tell you Jordan. And I'm not saying Jordan Love's not talented. It's not what I'm saying. This kid's a star in Green Bay. Half the teams in this league would have screwed up. Jordan Love play day one, no protection. Defensive coach. Green Bay's like steps. Sit and learn exhibition now you start draft young people with him. Offensive coach o line now. Get him a power running back. Every step of the way. Green Bay's done what the packers always do. Nobody does it better than the Packers. This kid is talented. Half this league minimum would have screwed him up. And now I think they're the second best team this morning in the nfc. All right. I know a lot of you think I don't like Baker Mayfield, but I can say this. Full disclosure. I offered him a job a year ago. My little podcast company. I think he's going to be a great broadcaster if he wants to. He passed. He declined. Totally get it. But I'm watching him. It's perfect. He's got the grit and he's a perfect fit. This, this team's great for him. I would not want any part of Tampa in the playoffs. I mean, didn't they beat Philly in Detroit? Didn't they take Kansas City to overtime? I mean, what they did to the Chargers yesterday, the number one defense took them apart in la. I mean, took them apart. You can't run on them because of Vitevia. You can't run on them yet they can run on you because they have an excellent gm. They have multiple J. Mac touched on this a couple months ago. They have multiple running backs. You can't cover Mike Evans as he ages gracefully. He and Baker are totally connected at the hip. Tristan Wirfs now is the highest rated left tackle pass blocking. And this team's gonna play with house money. So the best Baker is always Baker with a chip on his shoulder. That is Tampa. I would not be surprised at all. Listen, I. They could host Green Bay in a playoff game. If I'm Green Bay, I want no part of that. It is scary to face a team that is really good, getting healthy and they're playing with house money. Like, you know, and I said this when Baker went to Tampa. I said, baker's got An Ebor City feel to him. That's a, that's a, that's a fun part of Tampa, kind of a party area. And I said, Baker, you know, he's bounced around the league a little bit, but we know he can play. It's never been a question if he can play, but there's a little bit of a rebel, a little bit of an outlaw to Baker. And I've always felt there's a little bit, you know, Tampa's a legendary mob city. Tampa's had its own little. It's like it's on the fringes of the NFL, but it's in the NFL. And I just think he is such a good fit for them. And when he signed the contract, I said I would absolutely give Baker a three or four, a four year contract. I'm not going to pay him 60 million, but I'd pay him 35, 38 million bucks. And I'm watching them yesterday, this Chargers team, you don't move the ball like that on them. And they went up and down the field that it wasn't really competitive. And a lot of it is just Baker's swagger and his confidence and the run game and they protect him. And here's Baker after offensive line took over. And that was really the biggest difference there in the second half. Those guys played unbelievable up front. And defense, you know, complimentary football game. That's a physical football team. That's what they pride themselves on is rushing the ball and being physical. And so to flip the script on that is huge for us. Last 10 weeks. Think about this, J. Mac, the last 10 weeks because they were all banged up early. Tampa's got the number one offense in the league. Can't run on them, they'll run on you. Best left tackle. Look at Baker's numbers yesterday against the number one defense. 22 of 27. Passer rating of 135 11. And Baker's not a dink and dunk guy. Baker's going to throw it down the field and he's got a little reckless. He and Darnold both have a little reckless. That's okay. Mahomes has ugly picks. There's no. This is not tua. Everything's not underneath. Everything's not a bubble screen. I mean, I can't even watch Miami. I can't take Miami seriously. If it's, if it's, you know, under 74 degrees, it's dink and dunk circus. I'm watching Baker. He is letting it rip down the field. I would have no there's somebody's gonna be an upset in the first round of the playoffs. Whoever Tampa plays right now, Green Bay would have to go to Tampa. Yikes. Yikes. Am I wrong on that?
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Jason McIntyre
I don't totally disagree with that. I'll take it a next step. Who's having a better season so far, Baker Mayfield or Patrick Mahomes? Take your time on this. It's not easy. I know Patrick Mahomes has won the Super Bowls and every piece. No, but just this season.
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Colin Cowherd
No, it's. Baker Mayfield has been a consistently more productive quarterback. Now he also has the best left tackle in football, and Mahomes is getting hit. The story behind Mahomes isn't just the injury. Nobody is touching Josh Allen Mahomes has been getting tagged all year. And this league, I mean, the Kansas City team that went to the super bowl and got blown out, they had the same issue. Okay, so, you know, once you pay Mahomes what you pay him, it gets very hard. To win in this league. You have to be very shrewd. It's very hard to pay for elite left tackles and elite Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey and Mahomes. That's why the. The Chiefs are constantly in flux at wide receiver. You just can't pay a number one.
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Jason McIntyre
Ian Rapaport has the breaking news on Patrick Mahomes. It's a mild high ankle sprain considered week to week. That's from Ian Rapaport moments ago.
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Colin Cowherd
I think you play Carson Wentz against Houston. If you win, you play Carson Wentz at Pittsburgh. Remember?
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
You could play Pittsburgh and Denver in the playoffs. I would rather you see Carson Wentz.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't want to give anything away. I mean, you could literally open with Pittsburgh. Why would I want to. Why would I want to show it? So my take, if Carson Wentz can beat Houston, just play him again the next week. Now, Mahomes will be fighting like mad to get out there, but I would. I would give him a couple of weeks.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, the other thing is Casey could really use that buy.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Jason McIntyre
With the number one seed. That would be massive. You get some extra rest.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, if they lose to Houston, they're playing Mahomes, then they're not going to lose the number one seed. They want to be at Arrow.
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Jason McIntyre
So you're forcing a dinged up Mahomes out there behind a shaky left tackle situation. I know Toonie Thuney was good like yesterday, but. But it's still a shaky situation out there. And that is TJ Watt. Hopefully he's healthy. He got hurt a lot of injury. Injuries around the league yesterday were brutal a lot. And Nick Chubb got hurt, went down. Sounds like his season's over, but it feels like Detroit. Oh, it just stinks.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah.
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Jason McIntyre
If they make the super bowl, it would be unbelievable at this point with the imagery.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't like their chances now.
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Jason McIntyre
I think I saw 12 guys on IR.
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Colin Cowherd
I thought was 13. Could have been.
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Jason McIntyre
Is it 13? Oh my gosh.
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Colin Cowherd
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