Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 1: The Fall of Shedeur Sanders
Podcast Information:
- Title: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
- Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
- Episode: Hour 1 - The Fall of Shedeur Sanders
- Release Date: April 28, 2025
- Description: A thought-provoking, opinionated exploration of the top sports stories of the day.
Introduction
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, host Colin Cowherd and co-host J. Mac delve deep into the complexities surrounding Shedeur Sanders' fall in the NFL Draft, the dynamics of the NBA Playoffs between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Los Angeles Lakers, and broader discussions on quarterback strategies in the NFL. The conversation is rich with insights, critical analyses, and notable quotes that shed light on these pressing sports topics.
The Fall of Shedeur Sanders
Timestamp: [00:14:30]
The primary focus of the episode centers on Shedeur Sanders, the son of NFL legend Dion Sanders, whose draft prospects have noticeably declined compared to pre-draft expectations. Colin and J. Mac explore the factors contributing to this surprising slide.
Key Points:
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Sandbagging Interviews: It emerged that Shedeur may have intentionally underperformed in interviews, a tactic influenced by his father Dion Sanders, known for his own media strategies. Colin says, “...Shadour Sanders was sandbagging interviews or was brash.” ([00:18:45])
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Lack of Self-Awareness: Bruce Feldman, a former NFL quarterback coach, noted Shedeur's lack of self-awareness, stating, “He had no self-awareness. So why did he drop?” ([00:20:10])
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Perception as a Backup: An NFL executive quoted by Colin mentioned, “If he doesn't go in the first six to eight picks at the top of the second round, then people view him as a backup.” ([00:19:55])
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Comparison to Kenny Pickett: Daniel Jeremiah compared Shedeur to Kenny Pickett, suggesting that Pittsburgh may have avoided repeating past mistakes by passing on a quarterback with similar traits. “They did Kenny Pickett and they got burned...” ([00:22:30])
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Intangibles Over Talent: The discussion highlighted the NFL's emphasis on intangibles for quarterbacks, citing Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy as examples of players who excelled not solely based on physical abilities but also their leadership and temperament. “If you're not an A, then you have to get the intangibles.” ([00:25:00])
Notable Quote: Shedeur Sanders on being drafted by Cleveland:
“I know I'm gonna fit in perfectly. I feel like it's first getting in, showing the respect to the vets, showing them, you know, I'm here, ready to work...” ([00:36:10])
Analysis: Colin expresses admiration for Shedeur’s maturity amidst the chaos of his draft decline, noting his ability to handle adversity gracefully. The episode critically examines the influence of Dion Sanders and the challenges of being perceived as more than just a legacy player.
NBA Playoffs: Minnesota Timberwolves vs. Los Angeles Lakers
Timestamp: [00:28:15]
Transitioning to the NBA Playoffs, Colin and J. Mac analyze the intense matchup between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Los Angeles Lakers, focusing on team strategies, player performances, and the broader implications for the league.
Key Points:
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Lakers' Defensive Strategy: The Lakers deployed a “death lineup,” playing only five players for an entire half without substitutions, which ultimately backfired. “The Lakers are in big trouble. They pushed all their chips in against Minnesota.” ([00:29:50])
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Minnesota’s Depth and Ant Edwards: Minnesota's deeper roster and the standout performance of Ant Edwards were highlighted as key factors in their dominance. “Ant Edwards led the NBA this year in clutch regular season points... he is the best player in the fourth quarter.” ([00:33:20])
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LeBron and Luka’s Fatigue: Concerns were raised about LeBron James and Luka Doncic showing signs of exhaustion, affecting their performance in critical moments. “LeBron looked tired by the end. He didn’t score in the fourth quarter.” ([00:32:10])
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Physicality's Impact on Ratings: The hosts discussed how the physicality of the Timberwolves’ play appeals to fans, boosting ratings despite controversial officiating. “We all love physical play because it's just more intense... ratings have been up since Luka joined LeBron in LA.” ([00:35:00])
Notable Quote: Ant Edwards on his role and determination:
“I just try to take advantage of every opportunity... trying to prove I belong and tell my haters that I'm better than they think.” ([00:34:40])
Analysis: Colin and J. Mac commend Ant Edwards' evolution into a clutch performer, contrasting him with the aging Lakers’ stars. They explore the balance between maintaining physical play's appeal and ensuring fair officiating, ultimately arguing that the former enhances the viewing experience and league ratings.
Steelers' Quarterback Situation and NFL Draft Strategies
Timestamp: [00:40:00]
The conversation shifts back to the NFL, focusing on the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback dilemma and broader strategies teams employ during the draft.
Key Points:
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Potential Aaron Rodgers Signing: Speculation surrounds the Steelers potentially signing Aaron Rodgers, given their uncertainty at the quarterback position. “Mike Tomlin did not want to put a time frame on Aaron Rodgers' decision.” ([00:41:15])
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Drafting Will Howard: The Steelers selected quarterback Will Howard in the sixth round, viewed as a backup. “How would you not draft anybody but Will Howard if you don't have a quarterback in the AFC?” ([00:43:00])
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Cleveland Browns' Draft Moves: The Browns' strategy of securing a first-round pick to draft Dylan Gabriel was analyzed, with Busch querying if this indicated their confidence in their future quarterback plans. “John Middelkopf's theory is that the Browns didn't want to get into the Shadour Sanders sweepstakes...” ([00:44:30])
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General Manager Strategies: The hosts discuss the contrasting approaches of GMs like John Snyder of Seattle, who prioritized starting quarterbacks versus developmental backups. “John Snyder... took Jalen Milroe instead of Shadour Sanders, despite Sanders being more ready to play now.” ([00:47:00])
Notable Quote: Colin on the Steelers' QB strategy:
“I would have drafted Shador Sanders unless I had a deal.” ([00:45:20])
Analysis: Colin and J. Mac critically assess the Steelers' cautious approach in drafting a quarterback, highlighting the tension between securing immediate talent versus future potential. They argue that teams often prioritize backup quarterbacks if the top prospects aren't available early, potentially leaving critical gaps in high-stakes divisions.
General Discussion on Backup Quarterbacks
Timestamp: [00:52:10]
The episode broadens to a discussion on the role and perception of backup quarterbacks in the NFL, using historical examples to illustrate the challenges and expectations placed on these players.
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Celebrity Backups Dilemma: The pitfalls of having well-known quarterbacks as backups are examined, referencing past examples like Tim Tebow and Cam Newton. “Nobody wants a celebrity backup quarterback.” ([00:53:50])
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Ideal Backup Characteristics: An ideal backup quarterback is described as someone who remains inconspicuous and ready without drawing excessive attention, ensuring they can step in seamlessly when needed. “A perfect backup quarterback is a guy that could go to the local mall... nobody would recognize him.” ([00:55:30])
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Temperament and Maturity: Shedeur Sanders' mature response to being prank-called during the draft is praised as exemplary of the temperament needed for successful backup quarterbacks. “Shador handled it... he said, it's okay. Everybody makes mistakes.” ([00:58:00])
Notable Quote: Colin on Shedeur’s reaction:
“...he's not going to hold a grudge. And you'll find that as a habit among winners in life, generally, they're not grudge holders.” ([00:59:15])
Analysis: The hosts emphasize that beyond physical skills, psychological resilience and humility are crucial for backups, enabling them to support the team without causing distractions. Shedeur Sanders serves as a prime example of how maturity can positively influence a player's standing, even amid setbacks.
Jets' Draft Picks Analysis
Timestamp: [01:05:00]
Colin and J. Mac analyze the New York Jets' recent draft choices, particularly their focus on offensive linemen, evaluating the potential impact on the team's performance.
Key Points:
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Offensive Line Focus: The Jets became the first team in 25 years to select four first-round offensive linemen within six years, signaling a strategic commitment to strengthening the line. “With the selection, the Jets became the first team in 25 years to select four first-round offensive linemen in a six-year span.” ([01:06:20])
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Evaluation of Picks: The hosts review individual picks, praising selections like Fashanu and Elijah Vera while acknowledging misses like Membu Becton. “I didn't have a problem with the Jet’s first two picks... Membu Becton was a miss, but you know, you're not going to go four for four.” ([01:08:45])
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Quarterback Absence: Despite focusing on the offensive line, the Jets did not draft a quarterback, raising concerns about their readiness at the position. “They didn't draft a quarterback. It's like Justin Fields, it's his show.” ([01:10:15])
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Strategic Implications: The decision not to prioritize quarterbacks suggests the Jets are banking on existing talents like Justin Fields, though Colin questions the wisdom given the quarterback class's perceived weakness. “They gave Justin Fields the reins. You know, so I don't know, you and I disagree with NBA physicality. I am for it.” ([01:12:50])
Notable Quote: Colin on the difficulty of drafting:
“I thought their draft was a great example of why Shador dropped. Shador is a starter.”* ([01:11:30])
Analysis: The Jets' offensive line strategy is lauded as a solid foundation for future success, though the lack of quarterback investment may pose challenges. Colin and J. Mac balance their critique by acknowledging the complexities of the draft process, emphasizing that while strategic, such choices come with inherent risks.
Conclusion
Timestamp: [01:25:00]
Wrapping up the episode, Colin and J. Mac reflect on the interconnectedness of draft strategies, player performance, and team dynamics across both the NFL and NBA. They reinforce the importance of temperament, strategic drafting, and adaptability in shaping successful sports franchises.
Final Thoughts:
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Shedeur Sanders’ Potential: Despite his draft fall, Shedeur’s maturity and readiness could see him ascend to a starting role, potentially by Thanksgiving. “By Thanksgiving, I'm gonna make a bet Shador Sanders is gonna play and be the starting quarterback.” ([01:23:45])
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Impact of Physical Play in NBA: While contentious, the physical nature of the Timberwolves-Lakers series exemplifies a trend that boosts viewership and fan engagement, despite the challenges it poses for officiating. “It's gripping television, and the ratings are indicating that this tough, physical basketball... the bottom line has always been this.” ([01:19:30])
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Strategic Drafting in NFL: The importance of balancing immediate needs with future potential in the NFL draft is underscored, highlighting how teams like the Seahawks and Jets are navigating these waters with varying degrees of success. “You don't want to get into the quarterback sweepstakes because they showed their hand...” ([01:21:10])
Closing Quote: Colin commends Shedeur Sanders’ handling of adversity:
“That reaction. A plus plus. He may have a B arm and a B minus mobility, but that temperament in that moment. A plus plus.” ([01:24:50])
Final Analysis: The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of Shedeur Sanders' draft challenges, the strategic nuances of the NFL and NBA, and the critical role of player temperament in professional sports. Colin Cowherd and J. Mac offer valuable perspectives, making this episode a must-listen for sports enthusiasts seeking in-depth discussions on current sports dynamics.
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