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Virgin Voyages is where luxury meets travel. Book it and see what you've been missing. Learn more@virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go on a Monday, ready to roll. Live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be watching or listening, thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now where Colin was right, we're Colin was wrong. Kelvin Sampson, coach of Houston in the Final Four will be joining us. So it's actually a great, great weekend of sports. Baseball was amazing. A little controversy in the Bronx. Great. College basketball and a fight in the NBA and a little bit of. A little bit of NFL news. But J. Mac, we've got our Final Four and it's all number one seeds. Great teams. Great. Yeah. The four best teams. I don't think there's any question about that. So it's Florida, Duke, Houston and Auburn. And yet somebody out there, a lot of people out there are saying this is one of the most boring marches ever. Oh, boy, oh boy. This is what guys do. I don't think women do this as much. Although I can't speak from experience. There's something about guys, they want you to know that they heard the garage band first or they, they really like mid major basketball and they're going to brag about it in the Internet. They're called nerds. You don't want to watch Duke in Houston. You don't want to watch Cooper flag in the most talented team in a long time in college basketball offensively against the best defensive team maybe ever in Houston. You don't want to watch that Kelvin Sampson. They played, they hammered Tennessee. A good Tennessee team humiliated Tennessee. They got past Purdue, they got past Gonzaga. Two of the top six programs in the country. Mark Few said the one team he didn't want to face Houston, and now they face Duke. You don't want to watch that. You don't want to watch Florida and Auburn. Y'all lectured me that Florida was gonna win the tournament. Now you don't like them. You were smarter than everybody else, guys. That and the garage band. You told me you watch it. You knew it. Auburn, Florida are the two best teams in easily the best college basketball conference. I mean, outside of Duke, nobody in the ACC won a game. So you don't want to watch these teams. And by the way, Duke has won 16 to 17 and Florida's won 16, 18. Like they're the hottest teams. We had a college football playoff Cinderella fan. Smu, Boise State, Indiana. How'd that work out? You thought that was good sports. I didn't. In fact, in the college football playoff era, the lowest rated national championship game had one of those Cinderellas. Georgia 65, TCU 7. I bet you like that too. Now those of us with a social life did not. We stopped watching mid second quarter. So these are red hot teams. They're the best teams. They've been challenged outside of Duke. And it's like these people in the movie industry who want to convince you Shape of Water was the best movie. A woman falling in love with a fish. They're really these weirdos. Yeah, I'm going to go with Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Spielberg, Mission Impossible, Oppenheimer. Yeah, I'm going to go with those, you know, which made seven times the money of a woman falling in love with a fish. But, you know, it's fair. I'm very artsy. I see things you don't. I watch mid major basketball. Congratulations. I went out with my wife. It was a good time. A couple of times during the tournament. Fun time, cocktails, good dinner, friends. I'm not watching Missouri Valley Conference basketball and I'm not going to pretend I care if SMU football rocks. They can't compete with the big dogs. So this whole thing about you keep telling me the ratings are up. So obviously I'm among the group of people who like Duke, who like the sec, which has really started paying attention to basketball. I said this in January. I'm like, folks, I don't know what you're watching, but SEC basketball is noticeably better than Big Ten. In ACC basketball, like, it's not close. They got more shooters, they got more athletes. The coaches are all well known. So Bruce Pearl on four number one seeds. Sorry. Drexel. Sorry. Lipscomb. Sorry. Community colleges. Sorry. We got four number ones. And here's Bruce Pearl. I told our guys right now we haven't beaten a team yet that I thought was better than us, and that's why we're the overall number one seed. And now we're going to the final four where there are four one seeds. And I think the four teams that are advanced, I think there are four best teams in the country. That doesn't obviously always happen. Okay, so we have ourselves a really interesting situation in baseball, and everybody's freaking out. And I think they're really freaking out because it's the Yankees. If this was the Rays, you know, or the Diamondbacks, it wouldn't be nearly the story. So the Yankees used an MIT analyst, Aaron Lernhardt. He's a former Yankee analyst. There are a lot of fans of the Yankees in New York and around the globe, frankly. And they had a couple guys on the roster. Volpe was struggling to hit, and so they did something totally legal. And it has been a massive home run. So they moved, shifted some of the weight in the bat from the barrel closer to the label. So in baseball, there's a length restriction and a diameter restriction, and the Yankees didn't Break either rule. Baseball tells you bats got to be this long and this big in diameter. It doesn't tell you where you have to put the meat of the bat. You could put it all in the handle and it would look weird, but you can do that. So the Yankees, because of this, are on a frenzy. Everybody's hitting home runs. They're first in runs, home runs, RBIs, OPS. They're number one in everything. And you know what? This is? It's peak. Bill Belichick, he knows the rule book better than you did. He knows it better than the Ravens did or the Colts did. The Colts, by the way, were piping in sound, which is illegal in the NFL. But Belichick knew the rulebook better. So all the Yankees did an MIT analyst, smart people go there, shifted weight from the barrel. They didn't make the diameter illegal. They didn't change the length of it. They just, and I mean slightly shifted it. Now, for the record, not every batter needs it. A couple teams tried it last year. Aaron Judge is like, yeah, I'm doing fine without it. Maybe you've noticed. Oshohei Ohtani, Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, not everybody's using it, but we've seen this in golf and tennis. We've seen innovations. And my take on sports has always been push the envelope. Let the governance, the governing body, the fcc, the SEC or Major League Baseball, let them reel you back in, like the tush push. I got no problem with the creation of it. I don't think it's terribly healthy. I don't think you should be pushing quarterbacks into the line. Lets everybody vote on it. But give the Eagles credit for creating it. They created it because they have a quarterback that can, you know, I mean, 660 pound leg presses, and they had the best center in the last 20 years in the NFL. So they're like, yeah, let's do it. Let's just automatically get two yards. It works. So, and I'll tell you, the answer on this Yankee stuff is never to complain and be rigid and be a traditionalist. It's like one and done in college basketball. John Calipari is like, yeah, it's legal. I'm going for it. Mike Krzyzewski got stubborn, and then Krzyzewski admitted, yeah, I'm getting beat by all these guys I'm passing on. Rigid, didn't win. It's like three pointers in the NBA. Lakers were rigid, warriors weren't. How'd that work out? It's like the portal, the transfer portal in College football. Ohio State's like, all in Georgia, all in Clemson's like, nah, nah, it's a little sketchy. How's that working for Clemson? They don't look anything close to Ohio State, and they did four years ago. So rigid's not the answer. I think in life and in sports, sometimes you got to take a swing, literally. In baseball and. And again, if you go to OBJ's Magical Catch in New York, it's those gloves, man. He didn't do it with three fingers. He did it with those receiver gloves, which were legal and developed over time. So, again, there's a famous Nike saying. When Phil Knight created Nike, he had this manifesto, and one of the things he said, it was like, number three or four is always on offense. Apologize later. I don't care if it's golfers. This is not kicking a golf ball. It's taking a baseball bat. They didn't cheat on diameter. They did not cheat on length. They did none of that. They simply shifted weight for a couple of batters who were hitting the ball off the handle, no problem. The Dodgers, with deferred payments, go ahead, complain about it or adapt. The warriors, their luxury tax payments, go ahead and complain about it. The NBA eventually changed it. The Eagles with a tush push. The Yankees with what they call now the torpedo bat. I have no problem with it. Again, this is not the Houston Astros, you know, banging on a can. That's not what this is. People get upset with the Dodgers. Dodgers are smarter than you. The Yankees here, they were smarter than everybody else. Here's Aaron Boone, you know, trying to be the best we can be. I mean, that's. That's one of the things that's, you know, gotten pointed out. But, you know, I say to you guys all the time, we're trying to win on the margins. We have a big organization that are invested in a lot of different things where we're trying to be better in every possible way. The reality is it's all within Major League standards. Yeah, I mean, think about this. At one point, the Tampa Bay Rays put a second baseman in right field. Then everybody eventually, over time, copied it. Now, the governance, Major League Baseball said, it's not good. It's keeping people off the bases. We want more base runners and stolen bases. So Rob Manfred said, okay, we're going to take the defensive shift away. But it was like, Joe, Joe, Joe Madden was down in Tampa and eventually won a World Series in Chicago. He's like, yeah, we're just going to put a second baseman in Right field, and we're going to move a shortstop over to behind the bag. And everybody was like, oh, okay, what's the difference here? It's innovation. We've seen it in golf, we've seen it in tennis, We've seen in baseball, NBA. And it's up to the league to figure out, like, the Tush push. That's up to the league to figure out. But every NFL team and baseball team and basketball team and college basketball program, as long as you are doing something that is legal. I looked it up this morning. Didn't cheat on length, didn't cheat on diameter. Pat Murphy's the manager of the brewers, and he came out and he just said, hey, more offense. Good for the game. I want my guys to be seeking any edge they can. Doesn't bother me at all. So I thought it was actually. I thought it was like beer league softball in the Bronx. I thought it was actually funny. I'm like, you know what, man? Say what you want. It. It. It's. It's work and it will be duplicated. Like, Clemson football is the great example. Like Clemson football. And I like Dabo Swinney, but he's like, I don't want to do this whole transfer portal. Well, watch Ohio State play. It doesn't mean you're sacrificing all the integrity of your program. It means, you know what? We could use that really good corner from Alabama and that left tackle from, you know, Missouri. Go get them.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm curious what the turnaround time will be for all these teams to copycat what the Yankees are doing. I. I don't think it's going to be instantaneous.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Jason McIntyre
I don't think in, like, three months, we're going to see bowling pin bats throughout the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, and also, no, because it's not for every batter. They did this because of a batter or two in the Yankees lineup that were hitting too many things, apparently off the handle Volpe, who had kind of struggled, and they're like, okay. Like, Aaron Judge is like, I don't need it. I don't want it in my. Again. Baseball is one of those sports, like golf, you have a lot of downtime. The last thing you want to do is screw with Ohtani or Aaron Judge or. Or Freddie Freeman. They don't want to. They don't want to screw with anything. It's like golfers changing their clubs. Like Tiger woods did that, which was very courageous. But generally, there's some superstition in baseball and golf and a lot of downtime. So I Don't think if you're Aaron Judge, you should, you should worry about it. Right.
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Jason McIntyre
I love that the architect of this, it went to mit, was a physics professor for like, what, seven years in Michigan. It's just like the Billy Bean story. He hires Depodesta, who was like an econ major in the Ivy League. And it's like, this guy's going to change baseball. Remember when he went into the room with those old school dudes and get this guy out of here. What's he talking about? Kind of genius level stuff.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the Jonah Hill.
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Jason McIntyre
Yes. Jonah Hill's character.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So I. This stuff. This is why sports is great. Is it? By the way, the NFL had a concussion issue and kind of turned a blind eye to it and then kind of woke up one day and said, you know what? It doesn't make sense to have our best players having shorter careers. Let's make the game safer. I remember when I worked at the Other Place and there was a kind of a noteworthy show that, that had a football player that was one of these stop wearing dresses. And my takeaway is I want my football players to play longer. The I want Steph and LeBron. They still get the best ratings in the NBA. I protect these amazing athletes, you know, so to me, it's like if you can make sports faster, more like baseball with the pitch clock. Now baseball has an advantage. They have a minor league system where they can always test stuff. You know, other sports can't do this. The NBA didn't have that relationship with college basketball, but baseball test stuff all the time in the minors. And it's like, yeah, it works. Let's bring it upstairs.
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Jason McIntyre
It's like, I'm sure you've heard chat GPT. Oh, it's going to take everybody's job. AI no, the people who understand chat GPT, they're going to end up taking your job because they're working smarter and know how to work around the margins.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I think it's really a funny, funny story.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
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And Arizona is a really good team. And then against Alabama he was all over the boards like nine rebounds, playing defense, playing off ball. You know, he. Two variations, same kid just turned 18 years old and it's, it's really remarkable. Our domestic basketball culture does not produce Cooper Flag. We produce really talented guys that are immature and are not really well rounded and are not really great at anything. Just really, really athletic and long and twitchy and that's great too. But international basketball is taking over our league. Wemby, Jokic, Luka Y, they come in more mature, more focused and more skilled. They played against older players. It's not about the brand and the individual. It's about teamwork. And it sounds like a cliche, but Cooper Flag, our domestic product, does not give us this. He is a better version of Jayson Tatum at this age. He's a better defender than Jayson Tatum was. I think he's probably a better shooter at this point, maybe not, but he's like an international player. That's what he reminds me of. He's an international player with a Duke brand and a little nastiness to him. He can shoot, he can pass, he's well rounded. He thinks the game. You just don't get that with 18 year olds from America playing basketball that are this good, this skilled, this aggressive and kind of an international feel. So he, like Jayson Tatum, he does everything well and some things very well. I'm not sure what he does great, but that will develop again. He should be in high school right now and you know, a classic domestic product is Jonathan Kaminga, the Warriors, who came over here to go to our college system and learn how to play basketball. Four years in with the Warriors, I'm not sure they trust him and I'm not sure what he does well. He's just really athletic and so when you watch Cooper Flag, man, it's just different. I would love to see him land in Miami, Utah, San Antonio. Good GMs, good infrastructure, excellent coaches. He won't be wasted I. This kid deserves to let. We say this about quarterbacks all the time. We worried about Kayla Williams going to the Bears. They can't get quarterbacks right. He goes to Danny Ainge in Utah or Pat Riley and Eric Spoelstra or Popovich. He's going to be fine and he'll be good anywhere, but he'll be great. I'll be honest with you. Wemby and Cooper flag, that's pretty good. That's pretty good sauce. Mark Few watched Cooper flag when Cooper was 17 years old and participated against Team USA before the Olympics. He scrimmaged against us and he was ready to go from the jump and went right at us. He really understands defense and he impacts the game in a big way on the defensive end. So, yeah, he's going to. He's going to have a huge impact from day one, but it's going to be one of those impacts. Like he does everything well. Yeah. And again, generally when the, when the media falls for somebody like Tiger woods or Bryce Harper, you know, Mbappe in soccer, generally, we don't go this crazy over everybody. It's just a very, very unique player. And I'm hearing comparisons to certain people. His comp is pretty obvious to me. He's Jason Tatum of the Celtics, where there's just no real hole in his game. Doesn't mean he's going to be, you know, out of the chute that good. But there, I don't see, I don't see the weakness. I mean, again, NBA, you've got to really be able to handle the ball. He gets everything else. So he's got. I mean, I'm telling you, I'm trying to think of the last college guy at 18 that played like this. I can't. It's just not the way the game works. He will walk into the NBA if he gets a good coach. You get him in Utah, you get him in in Miami. This kid's average in 18, 20 points as a rookie. He's going to be sensational player. And that's why Duke's favored J. Mac with the news. No, no, no.
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Jason McIntyre
Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the herd line news.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, Colin, let's start in the NFL with your favorite quarterback, Aaron Rodgers. We're still waiting to find out what the heck he's going to do.
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Colin Cowherd
He.
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Jason McIntyre
He likes the attention. That's my guess. Russell Wilson landed in New York, so now it feels like it's Pittsburgh or retirement for Rodgers. I guess you could keep your San Fran dream still alive since Purdy's deal's not done, but after meeting with the Steelers last week, Mike Tomlin talked about the possibility of adding the four time mvp. He's a free agent, as you guys know. He came to visit last Friday. We had a really productive day. He's been in this thing a long time. I've been in this thing a long time. But it's no substitute for, you know, intimacy and spending time together and getting to know one another in a non competitive environment. And so that was really good. But I don't have any new updates in terms of where the process is. We'll see where it leads us.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he was playing Cats with DK Metcalf over the weekend here at ucla. Yeah, that, that's something.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. You see Tom Tomlin, that video, sweating bullets profusely. Now, I know they were in Florida, but is he sweating? Like, what's it going to be like with Aaron Rodgers on this team? Oh my gosh. Or do we have a backup plan? It sounds like it might be.
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Colin Cowherd
It does feel like to me if DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers are playing catch, that he's thinking about something.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, but Colin, what's the point of that? Hey man, let's play catch. Run some routes for me. Let me see if you're worthy of me being your.
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Colin Cowherd
No, now that's being cynic. I think it's. Aaron lives in Malibu. Aaron's got time, he works out in Thousand Oaks. And he's sitting to himself saying, hey, dk, you in town? Let's go out for a few hours and play around. And I think Aaron's talking himself into Pittsburgh.
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Jason McIntyre
It's never a good thing. You know that if you got to talk yourself into Pittsburgh.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Aaron love. I think Aaron loves playing football and he doesn't want to retire. And he's crossing his fingers that the Brock Purdy negotiation goes poorly or that the Minnesota Vikings change their mind. I think, I think if, if the Vikings offered, Aaron would be there today. If the Niners offered, he'd be there today. I think Aaron's smart enough to know that Pittsburgh's a defensive coach, a battle line that lost their left tackle, lost Najee Harris in a division with Burrow and Lamar. I don't think this is Aaron's first choice. And if it wasn't my first choice, but I didn't want to retire, I would go kick the tires. I have no problem with what Aaron's doing. I think he's. Aaron's telling us that he wants the Niners and he wants Minnesota. He will do Pittsburgh if it feels right now Pittsburgh gave DK Metcalf so much money they don't have a ton for Aaron and I, and I. And I also think Aaron has the right to be paid reasonably. The Russell Wilson contract with the Giants, that is all tied to. Yeah, that's a bad contract and Aaron's not going to sign for that, nor should he.
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Jason McIntyre
I just, I cannot get behind the idea of two years ago he needed a darkness retreat to find out if he still wanted to play football. What is it now, Colin? Why is it always something? Did he watch Brett Favre be a jerk, if you will. Back in the day with the packers and the jets and then it was a Vikings like. I almost feel like he just likes his name in the headlines. Loves seeing TV shows talk about him.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't, I don't. I don't think he watches it as much as he used to. I don't think he cares. I think he loves football.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, if he loves football. So I'm with the Steelers, what are you waiting for?
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Colin Cowherd
Because it's not. It's fool's gold.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, then you don't love football.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, no, that's not true. I love broadcasting. I wouldn't sign with a bad company. I. There's a lot of things I just. Because you love something, you shouldn't be goofy.
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Jason McIntyre
But if I'm not here next year, you probably would not love this job as much. You might walk away.
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Colin Cowherd
Depends.
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Jason McIntyre
You might. Who knows? You might walk away. Next story is the Raiders. Colin. Oh boy. A lot of new faces in the building as they look to create a winning culture in Sin City. They traded for Geno Smith in the offseason. You know, the expectation is he's going to get an extension. Geno enters the final year of his deal. Pete Carroll talked about locking up his quarterback at the league meetings, saying the team is continuing to work on a long term deal. Colin, your thoughts on this Geno Smith situation. And it should report that Ashton Genti is now the betting favorite to land with the Raiders. Yeah, I don't. Listen, I have some thoughts on that.
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Colin Cowherd
We know all the funny money. The bottom line is you can pay Gino a lot, guarantee a lot, and it'll be a two year deal, maybe one. That's just the way these deals work. So it doesn't, you know, we don't think Seattle's gonna pay him like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. So it's fine. Again, he's an adult on play action, which probably tells you why The Raiders should go get a running back early on play action. Gino's a top six quarterback in the league. He's a big guy who can throw darts if they have a substantial run game. He's not a guy that's going to come from behind with no run game. Sling it 45 times. He'll make mistakes. So will almost all the leagues.
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Jason McIntyre
So you're on board for Ashton Genty at 6, an entirely new backfield, Ashton Genty and Geno Smith?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I am.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, not, not my bag, but you know, the Raiders stink. Anyway, final story is to the NBA. Colin, I know you were watching this Saturday night, the Lakers.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Jason McIntyre
Oh, I'm sorry, this was. Oh yeah, that was Saturday night against the Memphis Grizzlies.
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Colin Cowherd
They played well.
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Jason McIntyre
JJ Redick challenged his big three. LeBron, Luka and Reaves and they went off 85 points from those three and 25 assists.
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Colin Cowherd
No, it was almost like that Chicago game. When you watch the Lakers play, it's all about mindset. If LeBron comes engaged with Luka, they're really, really good team. They don't all the time. Like since LeBron's been back from the injuries, averaging 19 a game.
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Jason McIntyre
They're saving it for the playoffs.
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Colin Cowherd
No, but this was one of those games.
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Jason McIntyre
They needed it.
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Colin Cowherd
You, yeah, you could just tell it was like, okay.
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Jason McIntyre
And they need it tonight against Houston here at home.
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Colin Cowherd
Houston is red hot.
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Jason McIntyre
I kind of wanted to go to that, but I had a long weekend, I'm exhausted. If you're in, I might try to get us tickets.
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Colin Cowherd
Houston tonight.
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Jason McIntyre
Houston's late. Houston Lakers tonight. It's a big one for seating. Houston's two in the West. This Denver's trying to catch them.
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Colin Cowherd
That's interesting. I'll call you after the show. That's interesting.
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Jason McIntyre
I'll let you know about.
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Colin Cowherd
My man comes into town tomorrow. So I got one night to have fun. Oh, you want to hold a little.
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Jason McIntyre
Hall pass action tonight?
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Colin Cowherd
Maybe J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. The herd lies. So as J. Mac pointed out, the Raiders are the favorites to draft running back Ashton Genty. So I. Here's the thing is I never buy into this. You can't draft this position at this round. I've always said, go draft a kicker. They'll end up being your first or second leading score. You can't draft a kicker. Belichick drafted kickers. I never understood that argument. Rams went and got a kid from Stanford. He's real good. Helps wins games. I Don't get it. I don't have a problem. If you go look, since 2017, the last 12 running back selected in the first round, there's not a lot of whiffs. Rashad Penny was a whiff, but it was late. First and all of them drafted in the top 12. Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott. All good players. So here's the other thing. The Raiders were last in rushing last year. Secondly, when Pete Carroll won big in Seattle or usc, he had a star running back. Third, if you're going to go pay Chip Kelly 6 million a year to be your OC, you better prioritize your run game. So I think in this draft, when you get into the first round, especially in the top 12 to 15 picks, you take the best athlete available. Now there's two athletes in this draft that are considered elite athletes. Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter. There's an argument this kid's the third best athlete. Go get him. Okay, it's a division with Herbert and Mahomes and Andy Reid and. And Sean Payton and Bo Nix. How do you keep the ball away from great offensive coaches and great quarterbacks? You run the ball, time of possession, take a lead and that. Len, let Max Crosby feast. So you can't lean into Geno Smith to outduel Herbert and Sean Payton and Mahomes and Reed. You can't. But what Geno Smith is really good at is play action. He's top six quarterback in the league. Geno's a big tall guy with a good arm and if you give him a run game, and that's by the way, the Raiders gave the Chiefs trouble last year. So I. That's why I don't have to love Geno. But I really love this fit for a couple years. And I don't have to love running backs in the first round, but I think this is a really good pick for the Raiders. Pete Carroll has always been of the mindset, I want a quarterback throwing on play action, pass rush, good corners, run game, take leads and let your defensive front take over. With Max Crosby, that's possible. So since 2022, Geno Smith on play action, think about this, has a 106 passer rating. He's really good at that. He's a really. He's a bigger version of Kirk Cousins. You give him a little play action, you give him an extra beat. Gino and Kirk Cousins, complete passes. That's what they do. So I don't mind that at all. And this. This idea. You can't listen if you're in a division with Annie Reed and Jim Harbaugh, Herbert Mahomes, Bo Nixon, Sean Payton. You can't have Geno throwing 48 times. But you can take leads, run the clock out. That's. That's how you beat them. Anyway, Michael Parsons wants 200 million. Colin, right? Wrong. Top of the hour. I. That's what it says. He wants to. He wants to have over a 200 million dollar extension. I told you. I told you what I do with Micah Parsons, I'll talk about it around.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, that's a team player if I've ever heard of one. Huh? Give me $200 million.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, players want their money. I. It's okay. That's a lot.
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Jason McIntyre
200 million.
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Colin Cowherd
If they gave him that, they would have 576 million in three players.
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Jason McIntyre
That's not gonna work. Well, you got the Yankees out here creating new bats and the Cowboys are like, let's just load up on three guys. It's just not smart.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, especially not hard at all. Yeah, you, you, you. You can do the top heavy thing for like a year. The Rams did it for a year when they were paying Jalen Ramsey, Stafford, Aaron Donald, Andrew Whitworth. There was a time when the Rams had like four or five guys making a ton. But let me tell you something. After you got to get that ring. Because after you don't. If you don't get that ring, you got to start hitting on draft picks. And the. And the Cowboys have missed on too many draft picks. The Rams, who infrequently miss, have basically hit on every defensive draft pick the last two years. That has allowed their rebuild to be one year, not three. So if you go. If you go top heavy, you can win for a year or two. The Niners got close, but it crashes hard. Like you have to have an elite front office.
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Jason McIntyre
Isn't in the same class as Aaron Donald.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm sorry.
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Jason McIntyre
Aaron Donald was a game record. You have to triple team him sometimes. Like, Parsons is really good, but Colin. 200 mil.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, I. I'm gonna tease you something. You're not going to believe this. I have a story. The biggest stars in March Madness. You're going to be shocked by this. This is really interesting. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon, 9:00am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich Live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
Round one of the college basketball crown starts today on FS1 with Utah versus Butler at 3 Eastern, George Washington, Boise State at 5:30, Nebraska, Arizona State at at 8:30 and Georgetown Washington at 11. The college basketball crowd today on FS1.
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Colin Cowherd
It's have you ever had something in life that seems really obvious? And you wonder why can't smarter people figure this out? And in the one I've I've talked about with friends before is like during COVID Within three weeks of COVID people in hospitals, whether they were surgeons or chiefs of staff, knew that kids weren't showing up. 18 and under were not showing up to emergency rooms. It was older people, heavyset people. So it was like kids were safe. Send them to school, put a shield up, wear a mask for the teacher. Don't have kids not socializing at crucial ages. Especially young kids from families that didn't have a lot of money who couldn't like do some homeschool stuff or couldn't afford certain tutors. Like, that was an obvious one. Like you can think what you want about vaccines is let kids go to school. Fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade. They were not in danger of this. That was obvious. Okay? Like there are certain things. Here's another one. The G League's not good for the NBA. Since they started the G League, there's about, about a 10 year run where the NBA TV ratings are bad. Why? Because people watch what they know. Csi, Law and Order, Mission Impossible, all those dreadful housewives of Utah, New Jersey, New York, Orange County. They're awful. But people like know what they're getting. There's a formula. People are busy. They're distracted. They watch what they know. Americans love March Madness. So this is fascinating. I've been on this now for years. The G League hurts the NBA. If Jalen Green went to Carolina or Kentucky and had success in the Final Four, he would be much more popular than he is today. Now he would be good either way. He'd be much more popular. He went to a crappy Houston team. Nobody watched him for two years and now all of a sudden, he's great. Okay, well, there's a Lakers have Luka and the warriors have Butler. Nobody's watching Houston outside of Houston. I've seen the numbers and he's a great player. He's in LA tonight. He goes to Carolina, Arizona, go anywhere, Duke, it doesn't matter. UConn, he would be a household name now. He's well known in Houston and Die Hards in the NBA. Listen to this. The most followed March Madness stars, four are women. These are the most followed stars on Instagram. Paige Beckers, who, by the way, in her fourth tournament and she manned up in her fourth Final Four. We watch what we know. Number two is Aflage Johnson. Again, experienced player Haley Van Lith, juju Watkins, unfortunately hurt. She's a sensational player. And the number five is a guy. Cooper Flagg. Out of sight, out of mind. Adam Silver said over the weekend. He acknowledges our TV ratings are bad, but people like it. People are going to games. Yeah, because the quality of athletes in the NBA are amazing. But Duke players, Kentucky players, Kansas players, so. And it drives me nuts. It's not hard to figure out. The game's never been J. Mac and I talk about this. It's never been more skilled. You got seven foot four guys now that can cross people up off the dribble and the talent's insane. But they. People watch CSI, Law & Order. They like formulas. So men's basketball right now, college basketball is a turnstile where women's college basketball is a familiar face from a top 10 program playing again and again. And I think the greatest example was last year when Caitlin Clark comes in the league with Angel, Reese, and like Bird and Magic, they already had a rivalry form. It didn't matter whose side you took. A lot of people like Caitlin, a lot of people like angel, it didn't matter. You had a rivalry. You had like a Michigan, Ohio State, like microwavable rivalry. That's what we're looking for. So this, this the woman's draft. Last year in the WNBA draft, I'd heard of the first seven players. I had not heard of any of the top five players in the NBA draft. And by the way, those NBA players drafted from France may be great. We watch what we know. I've been on the air now 30 years doing this stuff. My audience is baked in. Good luck. If you're starting tomorrow with a new talk show going up. Doesn't matter if you're better than me, smarter than me. I've been doing this for people. Watch what they know. And you can go around and look at all these shows and all these movies and the Avengers and Mission Possible. Like I go to a Spielberg movie because I know Spielberg gives me quality and Scorsese and Christopher Nolan. There may be a hotshot 21 year old Princeton director. It's going to take me a long time to figure it out. Unless you're a movie file, somebody that sits and watches movies all day.
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Jason McIntyre
I mean, Colin, the only counter would be a lot of these women in college basketball State because you can't leave early to go make millions of dollars in the wnba. They don't pay well. So like Jalen Green's a great example, man. He was a dynamic high school player. He didn't want to do college. You know, I don't want to go to a campus for six months, go to class and then be like, peace, I'm out to the NBA. It's, it's a really tough decision.
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Colin Cowherd
So what should the NBA do? No, no, my, my knock on the NBA is you don't have to love college basketball. Don't marginalize it. Let them do the work for you. The NFL realizes the value of Oklahoma Sooner football and Michigan football. The NBA is like, we're going to do it ourselves. And then they tried the Ignite League. That was a disaster. And my take is use Duke, Arizona, Gonzaga, Carolina, these Yukon, these are wonderful programs. Villanova, these fans are loyal. They will. I mean, if you're a start, Villanova and your guys are playing, you'll take the train. You'll go to watch the Knicks, you'll become a paying customer. Even if you like college more than pro now, women don't have the option to do it. And I get that. But my take is it's not ideal that great players like Cooper Flag only last a year, but take advantage of the year. And the other thing about Jalen Green is people say, well, the money, God, how small do you have to. Jalen Brown was. Jalen Green wasn't starving, he was eating. So you can go make 300 grand in the G league. Do you know the value of marketing you get playing for Duke? It could be close to $30 million after taxes, 300 grand, 150 grand or untaxable free. $30 million of marketing.
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Jason McIntyre
So you're talking me into it. It almost feels like the NBA should say, hey, you've got to do one year in college. You just have to go just one year. Because guess what? NIL has changed the equation. You know, instead of sitting on a bench in the NBA making your $3 million as a rookie. You can go to Indiana, Duke and probably make $2 million. We were talking with Mick Cronin last week, you know, off air about what he's paying this kid Dent, and they landed him from New Mexico. It's like he's getting that much money. Remember Scoot Henderson? There was like a Scoot Henderson wembanyama debate. What does Scoot Henderson done with the Blazers? Any have you heard?
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Colin Cowherd
Prime example. Like I don't want to do it. He's another example. If you get these great players, coaching's better. I mean, you eat better, the coaching's better. I think a college campuses is healthier and you get so much free marketing. If you're in that tri state region with UConn basketball, I live there. UConn basketballs on television every day. Go to UConn, get all the free marketing.
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Jason McIntyre
I don't know about getting yelled at by Dan Hurley, but that being said.
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Colin Cowherd
He yells at refs more than players. Yes. So it's just this idea that oh, these kids aren't getting paid. These, these programs all have chefs. They get 30 pair of shoes.
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Jason McIntyre
College has changed a lot in the last five years. It really has.
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Colin Cowherd
And I just. When I'm watching Cooper Flag, I'm like, you think he'd be better playing for the El Paso Donuts? You really think that? That it's a better life for Cooper Flag than playing at Duke?
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Jason McIntyre
So the best guy in high school basketball right now, A.J. dubin, CIA. I can't say his last name.
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Colin Cowherd
Sorry.
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Jason McIntyre
He's going to BYU next year.
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Colin Cowherd
That's awesome.
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Jason McIntyre
It's phenomenal. It is going to be a best team west of the Mississippi maybe in like 15 years. They're going to be awesome.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes. Great.
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Jason McIntyre
And it's it already. You can feel the momentum use.
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Colin Cowherd
I read that about two weeks ago. It makes me want to watch byu. You know, it's never going to get me to a tv. The G League. It's not gonna. I mean, there's a G League. I have my, you know, a business office. After work I go to the G League. Plays like four steps from it. I've never walked in the building.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, even though Bronnie's there, that's South Bay Lakers. My bad.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I just. It's just so obvious that five most popular college basketball players, they're for women because they've been around for a while now. They're great players. I'm not saying that, but generally the most popular male skier or male Soccer player in America will be much more popular, usually historically, than the most popular woman. Now. Serena Williams was very, very unique. Women's tennis has always been Billie Jean King, Chris Everett Martinez, Steffi Graft. They've always been wildly popular. But no, I, I, I, I. Jalen Green's a great example of. We all knew he was great. Can you imagine if he went to ucla, got them into the Final four? You could not wait to watch him play. I can't wait to watch Cooper Flag be a pro.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, well, assuming he goes to the right team.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Zion when his with Zion shoe exploding. I'm watching Pelicans basketball in like October. Sorry. It's interesting. Colin, right? Colin wrong. Top of next hour, I'll get to the Micah stuff. Kelvin Sampson stopping by for the Houston Cougars. My bracket was doing really well until that Duke Arizona game. Interesting.
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Jason McIntyre
No mention of the bracket contest. How we do it. I haven't seen the stats. Are you still winning?
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Colin Cowherd
I had a really good opening weekend. Well, I got Auburn in Tennessee no showed.
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Jason McIntyre
That was embarrassing.
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Colin Cowherd
Michigan.
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Jason McIntyre
This is what he does.
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Colin Cowherd
I was happy for Michigan State, but we kept saying you got to be able to shoot threes at St. John's found this out. If you play a bad half and you're down eight to 10 or something like that, if you can't shoot a three, that's the difference. In the NBA, you could be down 12 with three minutes to go. It is not a big deal. That's why when Calipari lost that lead, it was shocking. It's hard to lose a lead in four minutes in college basketball. Michigan State at one point yesterday fell behind. They had like six open threes. They clanked all of them and three of them were open. One down. Hour two headed here next live in la, the Hurt. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser podcast. Have you guys seen this new commercial from Stand up to All Hate? It's basically Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady going back and forth with reasons that they hate each other. But then when you really listen to them, the reasons for the hate are just so stupid. I don't know. This. This commercial really got me. It's a strong reminder that hate in our country continues to be out of control. So join us at I Heart and Standing up to It. If you see hate, speak up. Call it out. Your voice is a powerful tool in this fight. You can learn more by following OTs upwithhate. Hey, all you women, Supes fans and folks who just don't know yet that.
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Jason McIntyre
They'Re women's hoops fans.
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Colin Cowherd
We've got a big week over at Good Game With Sarah Spain as we near the end of one of the most exciting, exciting women's college basketball seasons ever. The most parody we've seen in years, with games coming down to the wire and everyone wondering which team will be crowned national champions this weekend in Tampa. Listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We live in a divided country, and.
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Jason McIntyre
Our media couldn't be more polarizing.
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Colin Cowherd
That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson.
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Jason McIntyre
It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Each week we hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country. And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses.
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Colin Cowherd
On just one item from the avalanche of news. Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or.
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Jason McIntyre
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Are you hungry?
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Jason McIntyre
Colleen Witt here and Eating While Broke is back for Season four every Thursday on the Black Effect PODC Network. This season, we've got a legendary lineup serving up broke dishes and even better stories.
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Colin Cowherd
On the menu.
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Jason McIntyre
We have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London and Carrie Harper Howe turning Big Macs into big moves. Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast. Wherever you get your favorite shows, come Hungry for Season four.