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Colin Cowherd
Learn more@americanexpress.com withamx thanks for listening to the Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Friday, Another Amazing night for LeBron James. Luca, Steph Curry, you're trying to put the old guys to bed. They're staying up late. They're closing up shop late. Good show today, Buckeye Coach Ryan Day next hour, Dion Dawkins, Rick Bucher, we got a lot of stuff going on today. So, yeah, you know, where they care about the NBA, LA and New York. That's pretty good last night, right? Pretty good, yeah, that was pretty good. Well, we had said yesterday this was going to be one of the 10 to 12 games during the regular season that's going to feel like a playoff game. And that's what it felt like. And it really was kind of symbolic of where both teams are at. The Knicks lost even though they outplayed the Lakers. So now The Knicks are oh and 10 against Boston, Cleveland, Golden State, Lakers and OKC. And they outplayed them and they get beat by about 15 a game. Now last night Rui didn't play Austin Reeves, not 100%. So they were more fully staffed in New York and they outplayed the Lakers. But Jalen Brunson had to play out of his mind. All your starters for the knicks are playing 40 minutes and the Lakers didn't play particularly well and they won. And this goes back to something we've talked about. Tibbs and the Villanova guys and Jalen Brunson. Culture only gets you so far. I mean, Harbaugh created a new culture with the Chargers and then they went to the playoffs, Pittsburgh Steelers last decade, great culture. Can't score in big games. Culture has limitations. And Carmelo Anthony talked about something last night. He said basically what Luca is providing for LeBron now, these great up the court passes is what LeBron was doing to AD. So it's really freed LeBron James game up. Last night, only Luka and LeBron played particularly well. But you know, I just think Austin Reaves, Luka, LeBron, you have three play initiators. One can be bad every time in New York. Jalen Brunson's bad. Good luck winning. Jalen Brunson's great, good luck winning against good teams. And the sign of a very good team. And you can no longer deny it. Sorry, Charles Barkley with the Lakers. You don't even have to play well to beat a good team. And LeBron makes everybody better. I mean, Jackson Hayes does not have an NBA move. He does not have an NBA post move. He's lob guy and he's shooting 73% since the All Star Game, the deadline, 73%. He's an NBA guy. Say to me he's a skinnier version of DeAndre Jordan. He's lob guy. And when you get LeBron and Luca, who are tremendous passers, there is great value there. But he's not a true big. How about Gabe Vincent? Who? Gabe Vincent. Huge threes in overtime. Again. What you watched last night is really the truth about both these teams. The Lakers now are so good and have so many offensive weapons that Rui cannot play. Austin Reeves doesn't play well. Team doesn't play particularly well. Luka didn't shoot that well. And they beat a very good Knicks team where all their starters played 40 minutes and Brunson was unbelievable. So I think, you know, and J.J. redick, clearly, J.J. leBron and Luka are speaking the same language because it's very much a team that goes with a hot hand. It's very much a team offensively that is tweaking and kind of going with the flow this thing. It was a great, great NBA regular season game. And it was a team that absolutely can get to the Finals. I don't think they can beat Boston. We'll see Saturday night in a preview. Lakers, Celtics, we'll see. I don't think can beat Boston. I don't think they can beat Cleveland, maybe, but I don't think so. Two best teams in the East. West is much, much better top to bottom. But it was a game between a team I think can get to the finals and challenge for a title against a team that needs another big piece to even get to the Finals. Let's be honest. Last night, Nick shot 23% from threes. The Knick shot, you know, 39% from the floor. And. And that's with Brunson going off and a healthy unit. It. They just. They're just missing a piece. And again, I said this yesterday. It's great clarity. If you're a Knicks fan, I don't want to hear about officials. You're all for 10. It'd be one thing if you were five and five against the best teams. Euro for 10. And the Lakers are just getting better. I wonder if the Knicks are getting slightly worse because of all the minutes. Tibbs has the starters playing. And here's the coach after came down to scratch, you know, a lot of tough plays that, you know, we couldn't get to, a loose ball, you know, things like that. And oftentimes that's the difference. So. But overall, I thought, you know, the first three and A half quarters, I thought, very, very good. So obviously we have to close out better. Yeah. And the other thing is the Knicks really fight, scratch and claw for baskets. They really do. They work their tails off. They play hard every night. Did you notice last night how often the Lakers, they get kind of easy hoops, like, it's not a very good set. They don't quite look organized and they just get baskets. And again last night, just like, hey, Gabe, Vince, it's open. Take a shot. LeBron talked about that after the win in overtime about just everybody on this roster. Luca and LeBron are the stars. Everybody matters, though. There's no such thing as non key players on this team. Everybody is key, you know, and everybody steps on the floor, has a role, and. And they. And they go in and match that. And I thought. I thought our bench gave us a great lift once again. And Gabe was, you know, single him out. He was spectacular. You know, his play both on. On the defensive end and obviously with a shooting, and we need it. So we'll get a little bit of a preview potentially of the NBA Finals. I have Boston. I think they're going to meet either the Lakers or OKC in the finals. But this idea. Charles Barkley, I'm sorry. Lakers are good. They're more interesting. LeBron and Luca is magical. It's only getting better. Luka is still not shooting great. He's still. He was so inactive for so long. I don't think he has his legs quite under him yet. He looks a little lighter, a little quicker than he did a week ago. That's what I can see. Not shooting great. He's having trouble. First step, getting quite as open as he used to. But he's Luca and he's a savant offensively. But this thing's only getting better. They're going nowhere. I mean, again, Rui's not playing Austin, Reeves, not 100%. It's working okay. So I feel like I've led with these two guys for the past week. So now let's get the Stephen Curry. And this is the way, you know, don't forget, you want to know the. The tours that made so much money last year. Bruce Springsteen, Madonna and the Rolling Stones. You guys can put the old ones to bed. But once again, there's a reason that when LeBron and Steph play on like Christmas or in a big Saturday night game, it's the highest rated game of the year. These guys are still great. Sometimes they get bored, sometimes they're not pushed. I felt LeBron and AD kind of like treadmill to nowhere. But now you give Steph Jimmy Butler, and the show is back. If you didn't see it last night, he had 40. They won again. Third game, four nights. Steph with a bad ankle, but he still put on a show. You do have it in single digits, and that was the goal when you were down 22. Steph from Mid court. Oh, come on. Did he ghost him on that, too? Oh, my goodness. Kirby from 45ft. Yo, this dude is an alien. What did he just do? Every night this week, different city. He's putting on a show. And listen, the showmanship warriors are back. Oklahoma City's really good. It's about defense. Boston's really good. It's about roster construction. The Nuggets are about fundamentals, and it's. The Cavs are about efficiency. Warriors are about the show. And the NBA's always been better. When it's got a show, it can be the Heels, it can be Shaq and Kobe, Katie and Steph. But when you go to watch Steph play halfway through that game last night, those Brooklyn fans, they weren't rooting for the Nets. They were. They were Steph fans. And fans show up early to watch his warmups. That's what a star is. You always feel like you're two to four seconds away from seeing one of the greatest plays in basketball history. And, you know, I'm watching him last night, and we love to bury the old guys, and they always have something left in the tank. They always do. I mean, Jayson Tatum had 34 points last night, and nobody outside of Worcester cares. Steph's playing Brooklyn, and New York City's a buzz. And here is Steve Kerr after Steph just had an incredible trip. Put on a show in every city does. It's. It's amazing. Just the. The show that he puts on, the. The joy that he brings to so.
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Rick Bucher
Many fans who are coming to see.
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Colin Cowherd
Him play in all these different cities. You know, every. Every fan base loves Step, you know, and it's. There's a reason he's a. He's an incredible performer. It's very rare that. Here's the Michael Jordan quality with Steph Curry is that everybody love Michael. I mean, yeah, in Detroit maybe your primary rival, but I covered him when I was in Portland. I saw him play live four or five times. I saw his last game in Portland as a Wizard. Halfway through the game, you were just rooting for Michael to do something amazing. And that's what Steph Curry is, and that is absolutely what Steph Curry is. You just feel like you're a moment away from an all time YouTube clip. And both LeBron and Steph have been energized because of smart moves by the front office. Just like the NFL, the great players are largely beholden to the guys upstairs, making sure they construct a real team. Additives, not liabilities. It is great for the NBA. J. Mack, we were going to go to that thing, I had a little meeting, but I gotta, I gotta watch it. And it, it, the show is back for the Warriors. You know, it's funny, a month ago, before that Jim Jimmy Butler thing, I had said on the air, I'd said if Steph's not on the floor, they're one of the most boring teams in the league. Isn't it amazing by just adding one player. And by the way, Butler's not necessarily assimilating, but he has created this sort of joyfulness for Steph. Now they're back to being the show that you can't, you can't wait for the games.
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Jason McIntyre
It is nice to see a rejuvenated Curry, a rejuvenated LeBron. They're probably both going to be first team all NBA again this year. Like, LeBron is legitimately in the MVP discussion. He probably won't win it because the media loves SGA and Oklahoma City's winning like 70 games. But LeBron and Curry just, it's just fun, man. It feels like an extension from the Olympics. Remember how they were like the superstars on the team, the old guys? It feels like an extension. And I, I think they could probably get both going to meet in the Western Conference finals.
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Colin Cowherd
And this is a prime example. We've talked about this, the Jayson Tatum stuff this week. When you put Jayson Tatum around all those old stars, he shrinks. When you put LeBron and Steph around the stars, pow. They're motivated. They want to show off to the kids. So a lot of times with these older star players, Favre did this in Minnesota. He just needed to be inspired. You know, you forget these guys. An NBA life is not just the games. It's shoot around, it's at the hotel at 3am it is slogging in a winter league to a hotel, trying to get sleep. You get up, shoot around, breakfast. It's repetition, it's tedium. It's getting taped. It's. It's a lot of film, it's a lot of tape. It's a lot of boring. It's like being an attorney. You know, you watch Perry Mason or You watch LA Law, Corbin Burns and you're like, I want to be an attorney. 90% of cases don't go in front of a judge. You're settling out of court.
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Jason McIntyre
You think that would be boring?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I mean being an attorney, it's not like on television. It is a lot. It's, it's accounting, it's, it's just a lot of minutiae. And that's what the NBA stars, they love, they love playing. But 90% of this league is not playing. So the LeBron's and the steps, it's tedium, it's a lot of boredom. And if you give them jet fuel, it's like they're like different players. In the last three weeks, imagine if.
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Jason McIntyre
The Lakers came to you and said, colin, we want you to experience 72 hours with the Lakers. You're on the flight, you're in the film room, nutrition, weightlifting, shoot around. Would you do that? I think that would be like the most fun thing ever.
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Colin Cowherd
Try doing it for 22 years in a row. Right?
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Jason McIntyre
You're not digging ditches, that's for sure.
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Colin Cowherd
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Steph Curry
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of their era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Unknown Podcast Host
Peja 5 Dirk Ford.
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Colin Cowherd
Paja is elite.
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Steph Curry
Okay, okay.
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Colin Cowherd
And I'm mad him. I left him off my list, but I still like my list.
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Steph Curry
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
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Unknown Podcast Host
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. Love it.
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Steph Curry
Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.
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Unknown Podcast Host
When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with anytime you're wide open. Like you might as well just count that and get on back on defense.
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Steph Curry
Listen to Goat G o t e Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, welcome Back finally, Mark Cuban is addressing the, you know, disastrous trade that Nico Harris and the GM made to, you know, Nico Harris and the GM of the Mavs should get consideration to the Basketball hall of Fame for special contributions to the game. I mean, the Lakers now have revitalized the NBA, which had gone through a couple years of soft ratings and uninteresting a lot of international stars. Who's the face of the league? Well, now, now the warriors, the Celtics, the Knicks, the War. You know, you got big cities now engaged. And here's Mark Cuban on the trade. If the Mavs are going to trade Luca, that's one thing. Just get a better deal, you know. No, no disrespect to Anthony Davis, but, you know, get three. If I still firmly believe if we had gotten four unprotected number ones and.
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Jason McIntyre
Anthony Davis and Max Christie, this would.
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Colin Cowherd
Be a different conversation. Would you ever have traded Luka Doncic? I'm not going to go there. It's not. Doesn't matter. Okay, so when Jimmy Johnson won the trade, trading Herschel Walker to the Vikings, it wasn't just that they gave up Herschel Walker. They got eight draft picks. So it's not just about the hall. It's the yield. And they hit on their draft picks. I have no problem selling the mansion. You got to get a windfall back. You got to get flexibility. Oklahoma City moved off Harden and Westbrook. They get draft picks. That's why Oklahoma City and Sam Presti for the last several years have had the most flexibility in the league. You have to move off stars. The Chiefs moved off Tyreek Hill. It happens. Bengals are going to move off an edge rusher. I wouldn't. But if you're going to do that, you want to put yourself in a position to get flexibility. I have no, I mean, when, when the Pelicans moved off AD they got Brandon Ingram, they got Josh Hart, but they got three first round picks and one of those was Zion. If Zion would have remained healthy because he was great when he entered the league. He was. He had Wilt Chamberlain numbers. If he would have remained healthy and had his diet and body together, you wouldn't even remember AD Because Zion's game's more exciting. So I don't mind moving players. Three first round picks, AD Austin Reaves. I wouldn't do it, but I don't think it would get lamented because, you know, I mean, Luka wasn't in shape. He was hurt. He'd missed back to back camps. He's an awful defensive player. You're even seeing now he's still not in great shape and he's been in Los Angeles kind of the tutelage of J.J. redick and LeBron, guys who have always been in great shape when they played or if they're coaching. So it's just you got to get some Danny A. Has moved off stars, always gets flexibility. Sam Presti same thing. That's because now they have the I think the Mavs are best off not playing ad, not playing anybody and just getting a better pick. Try to get a top 1012 pick. You're not going to get into the lottery. You got too many wins. But I would just try to get try to salvage it because you don't control a lot of your future picks. You got your one first rounder this year and it's a pretty good draft. It's a very domestic draft. I mean by the way, you tanked a couple years ago and got the kid from Duke who's a very good player that now you got fined for it. But you did a soft tank. So I mean it happens in the NBA but, but to get no flexibility and less of a player, that's how you get fired. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.
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Jason McIntyre
Colin haven't talked much about Aaron Rodgers in the last 48 hours. What's happening you say? Well apparently he really wanted to go to the Rams if they had lost Matt Stafford. Now LA's off the table and Adam Schefter reports there is not an abundance of options for the 41 year old quarterback. Now Rodgers has been linked to the Giants, the Raiders, the Steelers, Titans, Vikings, but that's simply because there's been openings in most those places. And Colin, there's conflicting reports everywhere. It's almost like nobody knows what Rodgers is doing. You know, he's like that weirdo who's like doing darkness.
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Colin Cowherd
People, Wall street and NFL GMs don't like mystery. Yeah, they want certainties, they want guarantees. You know when Russell Wilson every time Russell Wilson has been in limbo, he makes sure he releases all those videos of how hard he's working out. Remember Cam Newton did that a few years ago. Hey man, I'm working out down here in Charlotte.
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Jason McIntyre
Grinding.
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Colin Cowherd
People want certainties. Nobody likes mystery. Aaron does. But teams don't.
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Jason McIntyre
So let's go through them real quick. Do you see Aaron Rodgers going to the Raiders? Pete Carroll returns to coaching. You think they're in play because we had the odds. The Raiders are second, Giants are first I'm not really buying the Giants anymore. I feel like it would have happened, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I just. I don't know. Everybody on the Internet thinks this is going to happen and I just don't see it. It doesn't feel right. It feels again, once again, Aaron Rodgers going to a team where he's the savior, trying to save Dabol's job and Joe Shane's job. We just did that with the jets and it didn't work.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. So by the way, what worked? Brady going to actually a very good roster in Tampa. That wasn't being a savior. Stafford coming to la, he wasn't being a savior. Golf was good. It doesn't work.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, if you get Rodgers and Devonte and all of a sudden you've got Rodgers, Devonte, Adams and Malik Neighbors, that's kind of spicy. And that you're selling tickets with that trio right now. I don't know about the offensive line. You know, we know the back end of the defense is terrible.
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Colin Cowherd
Ask yourself this. When you think about a quarterback, is it any time an older quarterback past their prime has gone to a team as a savior? That's why I defended Kirk Cousins to Atlanta. He wasn't a savior. What he was trying to do is buy stability for a year until Penix was ready to play. He wasn't a savior. Nobody looked at him like that. So if the answer Aaron to the Giants. He's trying to save the GM and the head coach's job. That is not a good fit.
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Jason McIntyre
Give me a percentage on chance that Aaron Rodgers will not be on an NFL roster week one zero to 100.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, I think it's 50. 50. I think, wow. Aaron's not going to go to a bad team.
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Jason McIntyre
You think you sooner walk away from.
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Colin Cowherd
He's got $300 million.
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Jason McIntyre
What about that ego? You think you can walk away from football?
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Colin Cowherd
I think he'll. I think, you know, I think that will be placed somewhere else. I mean, Aaron, you know the old saying, listen to people. They'll tell you who they are and what they're thinking. Aaron has told us that he loves football, but he's got a lot of other interests. And the minute the season is over, Aaron Rodgers disappears. He goes up the Thousand Oaks and he works out in a training facility. He's in shape, but he's got. I mean, I watched that documentary. He's reading about Greek mythology and Roman mythology on his deck. He's got a lot of interest.
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Jason McIntyre
So. So is this 50, 50 that nobody wants him or. He says, I'm walking away.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Aaron controls this completely and.
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Jason McIntyre
If he doesn't have good options, he just walks away and looks like.
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Colin Cowherd
And he'll be a first ballot hall of Famer that had a really bad last landing spot, first ballot. Yeah, he'll be a first ballot hall of Famer, an all time great Green Bay Packer. I don't put him top 10 quarterback all time, but I think he's very close to that.
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Jason McIntyre
Not top 10. I thought he was on the top five trajectory when he was stacking MVP.
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Colin Cowherd
A lot of people are on trajectories. I wouldn't. He may be top 10. I think he's. He's somewhere around 8, 9, 10 probably. But again, Aaron's got fame. He's happy, he's older. He doesn't want any more rehab. He's got a beautiful place on the beach in Malibu. Like what, what, what does Aaron Rodgers need to be happy? He seems happy to me.
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Jason McIntyre
I think you just gave producers a segment. Is Aaron Rodgers A top 10 quarterback all time? I think MVPs alone, like top five fringe.
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Colin Cowherd
Not definitive. Maybe he is. I always liked him more than Favre, so he probably is because far is probably in there.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, next story, more negative NFL news. And that's Myles Garrett. We know he requested a trade out of Cleveland. Well, he apparently requested a meeting with the owner of the Browns, Jimmy Haslam, to talk about the situation. Haslam reportedly turned down the idea and said, I'm not meeting with you now. Miles Garrett's camp is saying, hey, he's prepared to miss some games if he's not traded. The GM and the coach have been steadfast. We're not trading him. I just looked up Myles Garrett's last contract. They signed four years, 137 million. He's got money in the bank. This is not some first round pick who's sitting out. This is a guy with a lot of money.
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Colin Cowherd
You could just say I, I generally am not for players doing this, but when a franchise is so perpetually poorly run, I'm not blaming the coach or the gm. I'm blaming ownership when they're. Then I believe any employee in any state has a right to leave or break a contract. If, if the organization does not live up to the standard you have delivered as a player.
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Jason McIntyre
At some point the Browns have to answer Miles Garrett's questions, right? What are we doing at quarterback? What the hell's going on here? Why can't we win? We've got good players. They had a good roster. They were in the playoffs, I think two years ago with Joe Flacco, right. Coming off the benches. What did that happen?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Jason McIntyre
So it's like, I don't know, disappointing for Miles Garrett at the end. He's been amazing, and I hope he gets trade. Final story. Colin is speaking of premium edge rushers, how about Trey Hendrickson? He's demanding a trade for the second straight season, but this time, Cincinnati's actually saying, sure, go out there and test the market. Hendrickson led the NFL in sacks with 17 and a half. He has one year left on his deal, and the Bengals are allowing him to seek out a trade partner. Now, there's a report, Colin, that once the Bengals saw what Max Crosby got, they were like, oh, we can't handle that. We're out. We're out on paying Trey Hendrickson. Once again, another team waiting too late to pay their guy. Pay early, beat everyone else.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, pay early if they're legitimately elite and Trey Hendrickson has been for several years. So, yes, they should have paid. That doesn't mean you pay Brock or Dak early. If you think you have a star, Lamar Jackson, by all means, pay him early. If you have a B plus guy whose agent wants to lecture you that he's a star, do not pay early. You. You push it off until the last.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, I'll focus on Hendrickson here and not take the. The Brock Purdy bait. But, Colin, I heard. I heard a really sharp gambling guy say, listen, you look at that defensive roster. Go look at the PFF grades for a lot of those guys. They don't have any dudes on defense. And I just. I just wrote this up. They gave up 38 to the Commanders, 41 to the Ravens, 37 to the Eagles, 35 to the Ravens.
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Colin Cowherd
Who's that?
- [30:28]
Jason McIntyre
The Cincinnati defense. They can't stop anybody.
- [30:30]
Colin Cowherd
Right.
- [30:30]
Jason McIntyre
They give up over 34 points seven times a season.
- [30:33]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
- [30:34]
Jason McIntyre
Despite having the league leader in sacks. I think it's time to consider moving off Trey Hendricks.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think it's time. This is what I said about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was cranky all season, all season long. He was upset. This is. Why is that. He watches Lamar's roster, Josh's roster, Mahomes roster, Stafford's roster, Goff's roster hurts roster. CJ Stroud's getting better roster. And he looks at his and thinks, how does Philadelphia. Do they use a Swiss bank? How do they have a loaded roster? We can't keep anybody.
- [31:03]
Jason McIntyre
They moved off Jesse Bates.
- [31:05]
Colin Cowherd
Remember him?
- [31:05]
Jason McIntyre
The safety? A couple years ago, Joe Burrow is trapped.
- [31:11]
Colin Cowherd
He is trapped.
- [31:12]
Jason McIntyre
I mean, listen, you can't pay Higgins, Chase, Burrow and Hendricks. You're not gonna have a roster. They have nobody on offensive line, nobody on defense. Look at their defense.
- [31:21]
Colin Cowherd
Called having a bigger scouting department and being better on draft weekend.
- [31:26]
Jason McIntyre
You don't, you don't think four scouts is enough?
- [31:28]
Colin Cowherd
Go look at the Bengals website and go look at the Eagles scouting departments. You can pay all four of those guys. If you have, you know, the Niner scouting department or the Eagle scouting department and you hit on your draft pick.
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Jason McIntyre
I take what I can get for, for Trey Hendrickson right now. I mean, I know he's awesome. I would want to keep him, but you need dudes and they don't have any. Their safety stink. Cornerback struggled all safe season.
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Colin Cowherd
J Mac of the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. So I. Sometimes it's funny. So yesterday I saw that I was trending and I, I laughed. Of course I was trending because of what I said about Jason Tatum. So I've never had a topic where I just give you data and facts and one city is more outraged. I don't even understand it. Yesterday I said, you know, they're 10 and 2 when he doesn't play. That's not an opinion. I said, they score eight points more a game when he doesn't play. That's not an opinion. The field goal percentage, the net rating, the 3 point percentage all goes out when Jayson Tatum doesn't play. Those aren't opinions. In the Eastern Conference finals. In the NBA finals, Jaylen Brown was the mvp, not Tatum. That's not an opinion. In the Olympics, those second to last game against Serbia, coach's decision, they wouldn't play him in the gold medal game. He had two points. These are not opinions. You are trying to make him. Jokic, Giannis, Stefan, Lebron and Luka. I'm not. I'm just saying he's not in that class. And all the numbers prove it. I mean, and by the way, you know who else proves it? Shoe companies. LeBron, Steph, Katie and John Morant have their own brand. Tatum doesn't. He's got a shoe under Michael's brand. So the Olympics, what did it prove? He shrinks against with great players around Eastern Conference finals. What did it prove? What's production data prove when he doesn't play? I'm not saying he's not a star at the NBA at any one time. Has two superstars, maybe three. And then I bought 12 stars. I'm just saying he's not in the three, he's in the 12. And people are outraged by it. I think it. It's, you know, that's why the fate. This all started with the Face of the League stuff. And I think when in terms of Face of the League, he's more Tim Duncan, where he's efficient, productive, good guy, excellent player, can win you championships, but there's not a lot of aura there. There's not a lot of personality. I don't think that's a criticism. So you're the one trying to get me to compare him to superstars. There's a lot of good soccer players and not a lot of Messi's and Ronaldo's at any one time. The world's got two of them now. The world's got 15 other great soccer stars, but at any one time, Mbappe, Messi, Ronaldo, it's got about three superstars, global stars, and this is a global league. And Tatum's not a global star. I said this before, is that we talk about Michael Jordan. He hasn't played forever. We talk about Magic and Bird and Dr. J. You know who we don't talk about? Tim Duncan. Karl Malone. They're great players. Jayson Tatum's gonna retire four years later. There'll be no Jason Tatum talk. Doesn't mean he's not great. You're the one jamming him in to this global elite group. And I'm just saying numbers don't prove it, you know? Do you know what his nickname is? So the NBA, Twitter is a thing, and they make up nicknames all the time. This year, they've given seven new players nicknames. I didn't. I'm just going to tell you what the nickname was. His nickname. Tatum's nickname. The Anomaly. That's. That's the nickname they gave him. The Anomaly. Does that sound like it would sell shoes? So. So. So I think his nickname should be the password because he's commonly forgotten. But I'm gonna get shots for that. I threw a couple up there. All right, we're being snarky, but it. I would. We're just being snarky. We can have fun, right? It's an entertainment.
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Jason McIntyre
Wait, you need to read those out loud for the radio audience because they're so disrespectful.
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Colin Cowherd
The Miss army knife.
- [35:44]
Jason McIntyre
The last one is terrible.
- [35:45]
Colin Cowherd
75 cent. He misses in the fourth. You know, missing.
- [35:48]
Jason McIntyre
I know. I know whose work that is.
- [35:49]
Colin Cowherd
I'm familiar with somebody on our staff.
- [35:51]
Jason McIntyre
Thought they were I know he's a.
- [35:52]
Colin Cowherd
Funny guy, but listen, yeah, whatever you can take.
- [35:54]
Jason McIntyre
That is so disrespectful.
- [35:56]
Colin Cowherd
No, I, but I.
- [35:57]
Jason McIntyre
Password.
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Colin Cowherd
People are putting him in this Ronaldo Messi class. I'm just saying he's more Wayne Rooney, okay? I'm just saying he is great. Wayne Rooney was the biggest star in England, but he's not messy.
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Jason McIntyre
So he's a second tier star. Is it what you said?
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Colin Cowherd
The end. My whole life the NBA's had like when I was a kid growing up, Dr. J was a star. George McGinnis was. I mean, I can name 20 guys that were great. And by the way, Shaq and Kobe were stars. Okay? Those were superstars.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, so your top tier stars right now, Giannis Curry.
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Colin Cowherd
No, the top superstars Globally, Steph and LeBron are 1 and 2, right? I think Luca, now that he's with the Lakers, that elevates his brand probably 25, 30%. That's a superstar. Yanis is classic. Giannis is much more like Duncan, where the NBA playoffs four years ago when he was the best player in the league, they put him on a noon game.
- [36:54]
Jason McIntyre
Okay?
- [36:54]
Colin Cowherd
The NBA shoe companies tell you if you're a star. Shoe companies tell you he doesn't have his own brand.
- [37:02]
Jason McIntyre
So, okay, John Morant does.
- [37:04]
Colin Cowherd
Now John Morant blew it because of his immaturity, but the league, all these shoe companies are like Steph, LeBron, MJ. They saw John Morant and go, that is a sizzle.
- [37:15]
Jason McIntyre
So, so Anthony Edwards is a bigger star than Jason Tatum. Is that what, Is that fair? No, no.
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Colin Cowherd
They're both stars. Neither one of those are global icons. They're not.
- [37:27]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I would agree with they're not global icons.
- [37:29]
Colin Cowherd
And by the way, Jokic is closer to Tim Duncan than LeBron.
- [37:33]
Jason McIntyre
If you're Jason Tatum and I say, what's wrong with mobile icon? Who cares? I'm a winner. I go to the Easter Conference finals or the NBA Finals every damn year.
- [37:41]
Colin Cowherd
That's what every guy in Worcester is saying today. And I'm good with it.
- [37:44]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah. And you know what else? 95% of the league would kill to be in the playoffs.
- [37:50]
Colin Cowherd
I agree.
- [37:51]
Jason McIntyre
Play to win and go for it.
- [37:52]
Colin Cowherd
I agree with that too.
- [37:53]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, yeah.
- [37:54]
Colin Cowherd
The argument is people are offended when I give them actual data that the team is 10 and 2 without him. And offensively, net rating, field goal, 3 point points. They're better.
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Jason McIntyre
That might be that he took off games against crack teams and the Celtics are going to smoke him anyway.
- [38:11]
Colin Cowherd
Or it could be the truth.
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Jason McIntyre
I Mean, what about his 51 burger in game seven? You forget about that one. Game six in Milwaukee at like 45. I'll never forget. And listen, I don't even like the Celtics. In fact, I hate all Boston teams because I'm from New York. I love Jason Tatum. A lot of Lakers fans, by the way, thought Jason Tatum would be a Laker at some point because he's like, Mr.
- [38:32]
Colin Cowherd
This is the CLA. This is the classic. I'm adding contextualization. You view it as hate. Like I said, Brock Purdy, I'd pay him 40 million.
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Jason McIntyre
Wait, don't you think you were trending yesterday because of the hate?
- [38:44]
Colin Cowherd
No, that's not my issue. I'm just.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm just reporting glazing Jayson Tatum. It would not have gone viral and got 2 million views or whatever, Right? If you're saying he's really great, but if you're taking some shots at him, saying he's not a global icon.
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Colin Cowherd
No, like I said, there are no shots. There are no shots. He's closer to Duncan Karl Malone, who we don't talk about. They retired two minutes later. They're not a topic. Dominique Wilkins retires, by the way. Dominique Wilkins never made the Dream Team. Great player. Never made the Dream Team, but Scotty Pippen did. Because Scottie Pippen was Robin to Batman on the world's best team. Scotty. I mean, so again, Scotty Pippen is one of those players. He's not as good as Tatum. Tatum's better than Scotty Pippen. No. Well, Scotty's good, but the difference is, Michael, they were the Rolling Stones, that the. The Bulls were this un. They're the biggest basketball brand, I think, in my lifetime, they were the only team that surpassed any Celtic team or any Laker team was Michael Jordan.
- [39:49]
Jason McIntyre
You could argue the modern teams right now with the global reach of social media and TV games, that the teams now are way more popular than they were in the 90s.
- [39:56]
Colin Cowherd
I'm just saying, relative to the era. And so this idea about Jayson Tatum, I'm just giving you data. Don't let facts get in the way of feelings. I'm just giving you the data points. You're getting worked up over it. I'm just saying he's not LeBron. He's not Steph. He's not Messi. He's not Ronaldo. He's not Pele in his prime. You know, I mean, he's not Madonna or Bruce or the Stones.
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Jason McIntyre
What band would he be?
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Colin Cowherd
He would be a. He would be A multi grammy winning band.
- [40:26]
Jason McIntyre
Weezer. I love Weezer. First band I ever saw.
- [40:30]
Colin Cowherd
He's better than Weezer.
- [40:31]
Jason McIntyre
I think Weezer's really, really good.
- [40:33]
Colin Cowherd
Okay, come on. I love Tatum and yesterday I said he, he reminds me a little of Klay Thompson. Again, he's better than Klay Thompson. But Klay Thompson played alongside a player who often in the biggest games, Klay Thompson felt like the second best player. Good God. Every time Jalen and Tatum are in these big series. Last year it was Brown taking the shots. Now I think Tatum's better than Jaylen Brown. Not as much as people think. I think it's closer than you think. Potato's better, but just it's not perfectly analogous, but I do think he's got more of a Karl Malone, Tim Duncan. Jokic is fascinating because he's easily the best player in the league and he has no brand and doesn't want it.
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Jason McIntyre
Doesn't want.
- [41:21]
Colin Cowherd
So Tatum wants it.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, how do you know he wants it?
- [41:25]
Colin Cowherd
Tatum has said, I check all the boxes. Like last week in a story, he said, well, I could be the face of the league. I mean, you know what's funny about it? If I'll give you an example, Go back to Duke. So when he was at Duke, Jason Tatum, did he lead him in scoring? No. Wasn't that Luke Kennard? What? Was he the most talked about player? No, that was Grayson Allen. Well, who was the star? Mike Krzyzewski. He was the four on Duke. No, I mean, no, no. Grayson Allen was the most controversial and talked about. I think. I don't think he was the leading scorer. And Shesty was always the star of Duke.
- [41:59]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I don't totally. All I remember is Coach K is the last guy to stop. Jason Tatum basically couldn't get out of opening weekend in the NCAA tournament. I remember that brutal loss.
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Colin Cowherd
Take a break. More on this next the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together. I mean that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone call calls, chop it up as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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Steph Curry
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend to our new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Unknown Podcast Host
Peja 5 Dirk Ford.
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Steph Curry
Peja is a leap.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm mad him. I left him off my list, but I still like my list.
- [44:23]
Steph Curry
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
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Unknown Podcast Host
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. That's why we love it.
- [44:30]
Steph Curry
Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.
- [44:34]
Unknown Podcast Host
When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with anytime you're wide open, like you might as well just count that and get on back on defense.
- [44:50]
Steph Curry
Listen to Goat G o T e Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
We live in a divided country. I am a lifelong Republican with all kinds of different people. You know, I'm a mother. I'M a grandmother.
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Jason McIntyre
That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas. Each week we bring together an all star panel. Mark Cuban, so great to have you on the Middle.
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for having me, Jeremy. Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle. Thanks for having me.
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Jason McIntyre
And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important issues.
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Colin Cowherd
Hi, my name is Venkat. I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia. And when you subscribe to the Middle.
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Jason McIntyre
You also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.
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Steph Curry
We should be examining what our government.
- [45:45]
Colin Cowherd
Spends its money on and are these jobs necessary and what are we doing here? But that doesn't seem to be what we're doing in this situation.
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Jason McIntyre
Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson.
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Colin Cowherd
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
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Jason McIntyre
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, let's start. Rick Bucher's joining us. Let's start. Lakers didn't play particularly well. Rui out Austin Reeves, still not 100%. Clearly. What did the win prove last night for the doubters of the Lakers?
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Rick Bucher
Number one, it proved that the guy that LeBron wanted Anthony Davis to be and that he has always had when he has played for titles he has in Luka Doncic, he has that closer. LeBron has closed at times, but it's not what he prefers to do and it's really not his strength. He can. But you saw with Luka, Luka's not asking for permission. You don't have to convince Luka to take over again.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
- [46:40]
Rick Bucher
He's going to. And look, if Luka doesn't have it going on, it's not like LeBron didn't do the work in the fourth quarter. But what we saw time and time again against the Denver Nuggets is that LeBron had to be in that closer role and he would just run out of gas. And so now you have a guy in Luka who LeBron can do it at times, but Luka is willing, able and wants to be that guy and has that capability. So I saw that. But I also saw the vulnerability of the Lakers, which Jalen Brunson was able to dribble, penetrate and get inside, and then the Knicks were winning. As long as that happened, I just wonder how we would look at this game if Jalen Brunson hadn't gotten hurt and had been able to finish and the Knicks had wound up winning, because I think that was a possibility. And obviously they had the chance on the last second shot, they outplayed the.
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Colin Cowherd
Lakers for three and a half quarters. Right.
- [47:35]
Rick Bucher
And so I don't know that we would be looking at this quite through the same lens.
- [47:39]
Colin Cowherd
Well, no, I'm trying not. I'm not trying to be definitive, but at 010 against the best teams is pretty definitive. Even if some of them are closed now, they're losing big to Boston, Cleveland. They can't hang. Well, the Lakers aren't Cleveland or Boston, so.
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Rick Bucher
So that's my whole thing. Because yesterday on one of our other shows, I was asked to give my top five contenders, and I had the Lakers at five. So I have them in that mix.
- [48:02]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
- [48:02]
Rick Bucher
And this is generally the feeling around the league right now, which is the Lakers are for real, but when you get a team like Boston, we get a team like Cleveland. When you get a team like Oklahoma City who have multiple dribble penetrators and guys that are bigger and more athletic than Jalen Brunson. Now you're talking about a different thing.
- [48:22]
Colin Cowherd
So what you're saying is what? I believe the Lakers are closer to the Knicks than the Celtics. Because I believe that. And I think you'll see it Saturday night.
- [48:29]
Rick Bucher
They're somewhere in between those two.
- [48:31]
Colin Cowherd
That's right. That's right. Yeah. And I will say this. I do worry about this, is that I think even the Knicks know they need another guy. Yeah. I think the Karl Anthony Towns move has always felt like it's a move to get another player. And they would have to move an OG, a Cat 4 first round, whatever they do, as long as you get flexibility and you make that move. And, you know, I've said this about, you know, Nico, which is I don't mind the move if you had more flexibility with the move because Sam Presti's moved off stars, but he always has a haul. Jimmy Johnson for Herschel, he got eight draft picks. You can leave the mansion. You better get a check for it. Yeah, right. If you're downgrading home. So I. The Knicks, here's what I worry about. Not that they're losing to these teams. It's that 40 minutes for all the starters Jalen Brunson has to put on a clinic. Is that you do feel like, are we seeing their best punch because of the way they're constructed, in the way they're coached?
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Rick Bucher
Thousand percent. Because Jalen Brunson, you're asking him not Only to be your go to closer. You're asking him to be your playmaker. You're not even asking that as Steph Curry at his best, because you've got Draymond Green who's playmaking. You got Jimmy Butler who can playmake now. So you're not asking him to play both of those roles. And when you ask a guy who is 6 to 190 pounds, we've simply never seen a guard. The first, the most recent one that I thought might be able to do it was Derrick Rose, and even that was too much for him.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Rick Bucher
So you're asking a less athletic guy in Jalen Brunson, and I don't want to bag on him at all. I mean, he's a massive success story. And I love everything about how Jalen plays, but it is, to your point, it's the construction of the team. You ask. You're asking Jalen to basically be your offensive coordinator.
- [50:18]
Colin Cowherd
It's James Harden, and by the end of the season, completely, he was shot.
- [50:21]
Rick Bucher
And he doesn't have James Harden's side. Right, Right. And so it's. And then you have a coach. At least with. With Harden, you had Mike D'Antoni, who's a pretty good offensive coach.
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Colin Cowherd
And not the most grinding practices.
- [50:34]
Rick Bucher
And not the most grinding practices. As opposed to Tom Thibodeau, who you're going to practice two and a half hours every day and is not known as a very creative offensive coach.
- [50:45]
Colin Cowherd
How about this? Even Steve Kerr is surprised by Steph right now. Do you think he is a little.
- [50:53]
Rick Bucher
Bit to be doing, continuing to do this, this level at his age, on.
- [50:59]
Colin Cowherd
The road, bad ankle, three games, four nights, and just.
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Rick Bucher
No, the point that Steve was making is that we, especially with Shaq, you know, bringing it up that he should be in the goat conversation, which is going too far. But you look at everything that Steph has done and to what we were just talking about with Jalen, he's basically the same size. Like, it is all the window that he has to be able to get the shots off that he does and to be able to finish at the rim and do all the things that he does for his size and his athleticism. LeBron Luca, like, we're talking about all guys that are 40, 50 pounds and genetic three, four inches bigger and stronger. Like, it is just astounding that he does what he does.
- [51:45]
Colin Cowherd
Rick Bucher, good stuffed. Hour two. Next. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out, and you can learn more by following oupwithhate.
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Steph Curry
Make some noise for the Greatest Shooter of All time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Unknown Podcast Host
Asia 5.
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Colin Cowherd
Dirk Ford Asia is a lie.
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Steph Curry
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
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Unknown Podcast Host
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations.
- [52:36]
Steph Curry
Yes, absolutely.
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Unknown Podcast Host
Love it.
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Steph Curry
Listen to Goat G O T E Greatest of Their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
What's up everyone?
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Colin Cowherd
We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly.
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Colin Cowherd
By to join us. Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.
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