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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Here we go. It is a Tuesday NBA Free Agency in full swing. We are live. It is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be watching or listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Tyler Adams, U.S. men's National Team Urban Meyer Albert Brer stopped by today. J. Mac it was a if you're a Laker fan, it was a disheartening day. But they got new owners and new owners have come. You know, you ever drive by that restaurant, it says under new management and they're going to change the entire menu. They're not going to tweak. So I think I want to read everybody. J. Mack the headlines that are circulating about the Lakers, who are the biggest brand in the NBA. The Yankees of Major League Baseball. These are the headlines this morning. Lakers reportedly preserving cap space for next season. Dorian Finney Smith exit disaster. Lakers gave up three draft picks for less than 50 games of Dorian Finney Smith. GM Rob Palinka facing mounting pressure to keep the Lakers job. And I like this one. LeBron James has no influence on free agency moves, says an NBA front office insider. The Lakers are excluding him. They should. He's 41. So the buss family for years has talked themselves into believing, I get it. This is their life. They talk themselves into believing we were just a rotational player away. And the new owners of this restaurant are saying no, no, no, no, no. It's just not a little better chicken parm recipe. We're changing the kitchen staff. We're changing the entire menu. This is not about a better chicken parm. It's a 41 year old star. Another star in Luca where it's notable that he's really working out this off season and they have absolutely no size and the real value they have is Austin Reeves. But another headline today, they are not even taking calls or gauging interest on Austin Reaves. So the new owners, they know what success is all about. They own the Dodgers. And I've argued this before, I think the Dodgers mark Walters, I think it's the best run sports franchise in North America, perhaps ever. These people know what they're doing. They let stars go if they see problems around the corner. And so this morning it appears they're going big game hunting next year. They do not think this is a championship team. They're not going to lose any sleep over LeBron being bummed out. They're going to upgrade scouting. And my guess is they are eventually going to find their wizard, their guru, their gm. So the Lakers need two centers like yesterday. The good ones are off the market. Clint Capella, he's back to the Rockets. Luke Cornett, Celtics. Now he's the Spurs. And Brook Lopez to the Clippers. So let's, let's not forget this. Put the pom poms down. The Lakers got throttled in the first round. They lost convincingly in, in the first round. And they are worse today without Dorian, Finney Smith. They are worse today. You know who's not worse? Houston. Houston is better. You know who's not worse? Denver. You know who's getting better fast? San Antonio. So the ownership group knows what success looks like. Okay. These new owners are antique experts and they're telling Laker fans this roster is a knockoff. I know what grandma told you. It's not a Van Gogh. This isn't it. The new Laker owners are telling you we know what titles looks like. And an aging LeBron and a finally working out in the off season. Luka is not Ohtani Betts and Freddie Freeman. I know it's painful and I understand the Buss family for years, this is their baby, this is their child. And they always believe, just like we all do as parents, our kids gonna be president of the United States. Okay, maybe president of a company. Okay. Hopefully president of a frat. Okay, maybe a vice president of something. You gotta be honest. You have to be able to self evaluate. This is not a championship team. Look what Denver's done in the last 24 hours. They finally got yoke at shooters multiple and a backup Big San Antonio is getting better by the hour with all their youth. Houston added more pieces. Oklahoma City, I've not even mentioned them. And the brain trust in Golden State, they already got their sidekick to Steph, Jimmy Butler last year. So it's just, you got to be honest about this stuff. People in Los Angeles, you know what well run looks like. You know what championships looks like? It's called the Dodgers, usc, the Lakers, the Chargers a little bit. Until Harbaugh. Yeah, they're, they're, they're selling you on that and that's not what it is. So the Rams brilliantly run the Dodgers immaculately run the Lakers mom and pop shop. It's all changing. Big game hunting next year. Not including LeBron in the discussions. He's had a great career. He should not be dictating any terms at this point. Not saying you trade him. We're going to do. The new guys say we're going to do what we're going to do because we know what winning looks like. It's Otani and BET, not 41 year old LeBron and perpetually out of shape or an average shape. Luca. Okay, here's another one. This is interesting, this headline. The Steelers are officially all in. I heard that a lot yesterday because they got Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalfe and tight end John Smith. Well, if they're all in, that's a pair of eights. Okay, that ain't pocket aces, folks. So if that's all in. But it, it's. I always. I was asking somebody about three weeks ago, three or four weeks ago, about all the Steelers moves and he said some GMs just make moves to make moves. But do they have a plan? And this is a prime example. So they get rid of a safety who's a little past his prime and they add a corner who's more expensive, Jalen Ramsey who's past his prime. They get rid of a very high maintenance wide receiver in George Pickens and then they inherit a wide receiver who can be high maintenance, DK Metcalf. You're just making moves to make moves. There is no plan. If you would have moved off George Pickens and acquired Terry McLaurin, the adult in the room. Okay, that's a move I get. So you're letting go of a guy past his prime in the secondary and getting a more expensive guy past his prime in the secondary. That's just a move to make a move. Well, we're getting rid of a high maintenance receiver and getting another receiver who's a bit high maintenance. You're just making moves to make moves. You lost your left tackle, Naji Harris, George Pickens, Minka, Fitzpatrick, and I saw who you've added. I would argue you're slightly less talented today. So this goes. There's no pattern with it. And this is what I've said about the Steelers is that they're on the wrong side of the ball. All their money now is tied up in defense. They got more expensive moving off Minka for Jalen Ramsey. Wrong. Just Move off, Minka. Stop there. And these are not moves that make any sense. They're basically the Steelers are the kid who pays off his student debt and puts it on a credit card. Yeah, I got rid of that debt. No, it's still debt, bro. You still got debt at a higher interest rate that may make you feel better. And remember, this is an organization that has not signed T.J. watt yet. So when T.J. watt signs, at least for probably a period, maybe six months, maybe less than that, he'll be the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. So we're not even talking about that yet. And you got to get that done. T.J. watt. I mean, there's jerseys are all over the stadium. That's going to be a terribly sensitive thing. All these moves, what do they mean? Well, Matt Hasselbeck yesterday said, here's what he thinks the Jalen Ramsey move means.
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Matt Hasselbeck
They do not care about the rest of the league. They don't care about what anybody else does. They say, hey, we're the Steelers. This is how we operate. So I don't think that's going to change. But I do, I do think this. It looks like they're building a team to stop the Cincinnati Bengals. It's almost like they have confidence in what they have. Like, what we have can take care of the Baltimore Ravens. Like, we're good, but, like, man, I don't know how we're going to stop the Cincinnati Bengals. Like, I do believe that there's a fear there of, like, personnel wise, we don't match up well.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, a lot of teams matched up okay with Cincinnati because the Bengals didn't even make the playoffs. So if that's your concern, I go back to being concerned about Baltimore because the Ravens have separated over the last several years from the Steelers since he didn't even make the playoff. Okay, J. Mac, let me bring in here the Austin Reeves thing is interesting because obviously that's the piece that is. He's one of the few underpaid players in the NBA, scoring about 19:20 a game. The Lakers are saying now they're not going to gauge interest. But I do think it's interesting. The two things that jump out to me, LeBron's not being included at all. I do think the Bus family felt like because of the COVID title and the merchandise sales, they sort of owed LeBron something. A heads up, that's done. And the other thing is, we're going to go big game hunting next year. They've been very. I mean, that. That's a Pretty clear signal that LeBron, we know you want championships, but getting rid of Dorian, Finney, Smith, not getting rid of him. Him leaving and then inheriting some small guard who's on, you know, a young kid, but on like his third team. What's the message to LeBron? It's broken. We're not. We're not a championship team. We. That's what the ownership is saying to me. We are going to figure out scouting upstairs, executives, roster. Next year's the big year.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah. And next year it sounds like the Bucks are going to keep Giannis and make it, try to make it go this year. Well, next summer maybe Giannis is like, hey, I'm done. It's over. And then Luca and Giannis joined forces in LA. But let me ask you, if you're LeBron and you're reading the tea leaves, Colin, are you like, you know what, guys, Just. Just get me to the East. Just trade me Lakers, we're not winning anything. I can't. We're not a top five team in the West. Send me to the East, I could get to the Finals. Does he. Do you think LeBron would actually do that?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think LeBron's business and it's a fair question. I think LeBron has to look at it like this. He knew his first couple years in the league. He's a smart guy. He knew the first couple years in Cleveland out of high school, they were not a championship team. In fact, getting to the finals against the spurs, despite the fact they were swept, they were ahead of schedule. Oh, wait, from about that year on until this past year, LeBron has felt like the team he has is a championship level team. But at some point you have to acknowledge Michael Jordan did when he went to the Wizards. You know, Shaq was bouncing around the league. He knew the last three or four years he wasn't on a championship team. I think LeBron is smart enough to know this is the first year in maybe 15 years, LeBron, you have to go back to that. Getting swept by the spurs. And I'm sure going into that finals, LeBron thought he had a chance. This is the first time in a long time that LeBron sort of being told without being directly told, dude, it's not about a championship. The organization is first, second and third. You've had a great run, but we're not going to include you as we build going forward.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I get that. But Colin, let me just remind you, LeBron was an all NBA player last year. Average like 25, 7 and 7. And he's paired with Luka Doncic. So you have two of the 10 best players in the league. Yeah, I don't think you're out of it, but I definitely think there's an uphill climb in the West. Like, listen, wacky things happen in the East. Jason Tatum and Halliburton, they look like they were going to be in the conference finals again next year. They're both out next season. The east is wide open. Like things can happen. Let's not write the Lakers off just yet.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, remember, things do happen, especially to 41 year olds in their 23rd year. Also that you think LeBron's going to play 80 games and 42 minutes. LeBron has to pace himself. You know who doesn't? Lou Dort, sga, Chet Holmgren, J Dub. I mean, those guys, Oklahoma City can play nine guys a night. The Lakers now have no center, very little depth. And you know how it works, Jason. That means, hey, LeBron, we need 41 minutes tonight and we need 29 points. So it'd be one thing if this was the OKC San Antonio, Houston roster, like Kevin Durant's a great example. So Houston extends Jabari Smith, who, like Kevin Durant, can shoot, he's got length. Kevin Durant, you could literally tell him before the season starts, we're going to play a 64 games. We got Jabari Smith behind you. We want you ready for the playoffs because of the depth, the youth, the legs and the athleticism Houston has. Lakers can't do that. They just lost Dorian Finney Smith, that's one of their better defenders. So what's going to happen is LeBron's going to have to play 38 minutes and score 27 points for this to be in the wet. Maybe not in the east, but in the West. So the, the great advantage. KD saw that with Houston. I don't, I don't, I don't. Shen goon can drop 28 on any night. Amen. Thompson's coming up. Jabari plays my position right behind me. So LeBron is going to be once again and we don't. You know, you cross your fingers on Luca's health. He's in good shape, reportedly. But Luke is a guy that misses games that gets banged up. There are going to be nights that it's LeBron and Austin Reaves having to both drop 28 for them to beat, at best, compete with OKC.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, it's not over. I'm not writing them off any. Anything can happen here in the next three, four days. Let's go out and get some guys and get the Lakers back in contention where LeBron needs to be.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Matt Hasselbeck
Turn on the news.
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This is the Herd line news.
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Matt Hasselbeck
This busy morning of NBA chaos continues. Obviously, Damian Lillard has been cut, waved, dropped like a bad habit. Whatever you want to say out of Milwaukee, he's done. There they are stretching a provision that allows them to stretch the remaining $113 million on his contract. So they don't take the entire hit this year. And that enables them to go get Miles Turner. A bit of a shocker. They steal him from the Pacers. They're giving him $107 million. They lost Brook Lopez or center yesterday, so they had to do something. But obviously, these moves are secondary to what does Giannis think? And, Colin, we know what Giannis thinks. He put out something on social media, essentially saying, I don't know what to think right now. Here's his little meme, I don't know what's going on right now, of him celebrating when they won the championship. And then you have a report that Giannis is unhappy with decision to move off Dane. That comes from Chris Haynes, the NBA insider, who's, like, tight with Damian Lillard. So very clearly, Milwaukee thought they had a great plan here. And Giannis's first reaction appears to be, what the hell's going on here? What are we doing?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, okay, but again, we can blame everybody except Giannis, but three years ago, almost everybody I trust in the NBA was saying the same thing. They don't match up with Boston. They're getting really old really fast. Okay? So at some point, move on, because what you're paying Giannis now, Miles Turner, I like Miles Turner a lot. So I think, you know, with Brook Lopez going to the Clippers, I think he had to make that move. He's probably an upgrade. They can both hit a three. They can both defend the rim, so. But this is not a championship team, so not even close. And by the way, I would say in the weaker east, it's not close. Meaning if you put this team in the west, what are they, a six seed, a seven seed? Are they a playing team? So, I mean, again, I think it's. Giannis is the $10 million chandelier in a pretty empty mansion. So I just. I don't see a lot here. But this is on at some point. Giannis, you're the one that you wanted a move. So the organization kind of backed into a corner, went and got Dame, and we said it when Dame came. He'll make them better offensively. They'll be worse defensively, and that's kind of what happened. So you can complain about stuff or be actionable and say, listen, I want out. And I. This is what I said two weeks ago with you, J. Mac. You could get five unprotected first rounds. You could get. I would have gone to Houston with Shen Goon, maybe a Jabari Smith, and And, you know, a bunch of picks. But if you're gonna this idea that Giannis is confused by it all, bro, everybody in the world knows you're not a title team and they knew it three years ago. It's on you now.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Does it feel like the Bucks here, you know, like if a marriage is failing, you're like, oh well, we could buy a new house or let's have a new kid, let's have a baby, you know, to like try to fix things. Miles Turner's not gonna fix anything in Milwaukee, like, just because he's a rim protector and a good player. I I Their backcourt is like not a top 10 backcourt in the East. Colin Orlando's better. The Atlanta Hawks are better. I know you're not gonna want to hear this. Embiid Sixers right now, they're a bit of a sleeper in these. They're better than the Bucks. So I, I just don't like this at all. I will throw a Hail Mary at you, okay? I did present it to you a few months ago. Is there a world where LeBron says Lakers, this ain't happening. I'd love to play with Steph Curry. And there's a three way deal with the Warriors, Lakers and Bucks where LeBron goes to the warriors to play with Curry, Giannis goes to the Lakers to play with Luka, and the Bucs get everything else, all the picks. The pick swaps Jimmy Butler, who's only got two years left. Is there a world where the Bucks entertain something like that? Because you're going to need to rebuild pretty soon, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, but I, my, my take is, is LeBron at 41 with maybe a year or two left, I just keep Jimmy Butler. I mean I get, I think LeBron's consistently better than Jimmy. Jimmy's the better defender. I don't think that's the answer. I don't, I think I thought the answer for Milwaukee was Shen Goon, a bunch of picks and a couple rotational young guys that didn't make a move on it. So listen, I Milwaukee twice in my life in mid-70s and a few years ago they got a title out of their all time historic great big and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot of organizations like Sacramento Kings had great teams for years and didn't get anything. The Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills. These teams have been unbelievable for five years. They don't have anything. If you can get Denver got one. Denver may never get another one. The world we live in the NBA now J Mac is you can win one championship but the CBA does not allow a dynasty.
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Matt Hasselbeck
They don't want that.
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Colin Cowherd
So I think they, I'm not saying Milwaukee got greedy, but they got a bit self enamored and a bit delusional. I think they should have moved off Giannis two years ago. I think after next year he, I mean I'm seeing what guys are going for now. Could you get six first round picks for Giannis if he stays healthy this year and is again very productive?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, I mean anything's possible. Let's go to the next story. Colin in the NBA SGA kind of lost in the shuffle this morning. The league MVP and Finals MVP. He just signed an extension. Four years. Wait for it. $285 million. Colin, it is the. He will be the highest paid annual salary player in NBA history and in any US major sport. SGA is going to make $71 million.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
A year.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I don't, I don't Again, he provided a championship, a Finals MVP. He's the NBA's leading scorer. He's a grown up, he's an absolute adult, refined offensive game, that's the market. I don't have a problem and none of those guys, to be honest. Joel Embiid is the one I struggle with and Dak, even Anthony Davis, I don't have a problem. He's the best defensive guy in the league. I most of these guys making that money. I don't have any problem. It's a lot of money but that's what the supermax everybody agreed to. Owners, GMs, players, agents. I don't have a problem with. He's a total grown up. You know he's going to be committed, he'll be in the he's priority back in the gym. I got no problem with it.
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Matt Hasselbeck
So can we get that on the screen again? The list of the highest paid US athletes in team sports. Remove Ohtani because they don't have a salary cap in baseball. Tell me which one of those teams is contending in their respective sport. The answer is none of them. Once you start paying guys 65 plus million dollars, Colin, you can't build a team. That's very clear. The Celtics are disbanding essentially right now they're falling apart. Joel Embiid, no shot. Maybe they're a good playoff team this year. Anthony Davis and the Mavs, I don't see it because of injuries to Kyrie Irving. So like once you pay these guys and I get it, they're worth it. But it's Tough to build around them. Colin and I see the same thing happening, okay?
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Colin Cowherd
It is in the NBA and it is in the NFL. It's not in baseball. I, I listen, SGA just got bank. They'll be contending their favorites now to win it again. I don't, I don't know if they will. I just don't. I don't think they're that special offensively to be a, you know, it's an offensive league more than defense. I think their defensive story is amazing and historic. But I don't think OKC is going to win it again. I'll tell you, I take Denver, I would take Denver right now to win it after those two moves. Cam Johnson is a long, excellent shooter. That's all Denver needed. Denver did everything else fine. They didn't have enough three point shooting. They got two guys that can hit him with Jokic, with occasionally Jamal Murray. This, this morning. I like Denver.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I'll go Houston, but we got a full summer left. Final story. Colin, how about your Mavericks? You love them. And how do you, how much do you like D' Angelo Russell? Two years, $13 million for the guy. I like to call me Angelo Russell because he's all about himself. He'll basically take Kyrie's spot at point guard. Listen, man, the guy's a scorer, he's a pro. He's been around for a while. Ultimately though, the Mavs roster is looking quite good. When you get that Cooper flag or if they ever get healthy this year. That's a dangerous team, by the way. I don't think it'll ever be healthy.
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Colin Cowherd
First of all, I, I love the Mavericks. I'm not a huge DLO fan. They're doing this until Kyrie Irving's healthy and then it's only a two year deal. So they just, they just need a lead dog who can score with Cooper. I don't like having d' Angelo Russell around. Cooper flag. That's not what I would want as a mentor. But I, but I will say this. I think Dallas excellent. I think Houston's excellent. I think OKC is excellent. I think Denver's excellent. So all you Laker fans out there, those teams are all better, deeper and more assets going forward. So the truth, this feel. You know what the west feels like? J. Mac? It feels like the SEC for about that 15 year run where Ohio State could compete with the SEC. And that was about it. There are not many teams in the east with Tatum and Halliburton out. I don't think there's anybody in the east that can beat those top three or four teams in the West. People are just forgetting how good the Dallas roster is with AD returning and Kyrie just signed an extension. That Dallas roster is Cooper flag is going to be 19 to 20 a game as a rookie. Dallas is a really. If you put Dallas in the East, I would take Dallas without Tatum or Halliburton to win the East.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, I would. I mean we'll see regular season. You know, the Cavs are some try hards and they're going to probably win 60 games. But I don't know, the Mavs can win like 60 without Kyrie for most of the season. But that's what I brought.
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Colin Cowherd
You can tell, you can tell why they brought DLO on in a two year deal. It's just we need offense until Kyrie's ready to go. J. Mac with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. So the Knicks talked to hall of Famer Dawn Staley, the women's coach at South Carolina about the coaching job. So Knicks are weird. So they just had their best year since 2000. So a quarter of a century they had their best year. So let's try something that's never been done in the history of the sport. Man or woman. College basketball coaches generally do not flourish in the NBA. They are two different sports. It's like film and tv. Well, they both have actors, they both have writers, they both have scripts, they're both on a screen. TV and film are completely different industries. Let me tell you. College basketball is about coaching. It's methodical, it's possession based. It's very fundamental. Coaches run the show. The NBA is fast and dynamic. It is up tempo and the point guard and the best players run the show. Head coaches rarely call out plays. So even during timeouts you listen to a Spoelstra or a Steve Kerr. It wasn't like they were diagramming plays. It's not the 80s. So the intensity like, like, and this is nothing against Dawn Staley because she's a woman. When Dan Hurley was up for the Lakers job, I'm like, I think he's a college coach. The intensity, the barking, that's not going to play in the NBA. So I mean JJ Redick got the job partly because he was friends with LeBron. They knew it would work with LeBron. So that's how it works in the NBA. So in the NBA the coach is the fifth highest compensated person on the team playing and probably somewhere between the 4th and the 8th most important, even, even a Rick Carlisle, an excellent coach, acknowledges it's the chemistry. It's Halliburton. You get the very infrequent during a timeout. This is what we're going to do offensively. So in what's troubling, if you're a Knicks fan, the east is wide open. Jason Tatum's out for the Celtics, Halliburton out for the Pacers. It is wide open. It's like. And you just had your best season and you guys can criticize Tibbs all you want, but the Knicks were something. Tibbs created a culture. It's like Dan Campbell with the Detroit Lions. Is he the best schematic guy in the league? No, but I acknowledged I was wrong on Dan Campbell. He is a culture creator. That's what Tibbs did. And for the record, all the critics of Tibbs said, well, he's not really creative. It is hard to be creative offensively when Jalen Brunson's game and I like Jalen Brunson a lot. His game is ball dominant. It's hard to create things off Jalen Brunson, he's a great finisher, maybe the best finisher right now. He and Kyrie Irving for their size in the league. But he is pounding the ball. It's hard to create a lot of stuff if you get the ball for the Knicks, there's often six seconds left on the shot clock. So this idea that Tibbs wasn't creative enough, it's not. It's not easy to be creative when a James Harden or you know, Luka Dontich, now there's another guy that wants the ball in his hands, wants to operate. Halliburton's different. Halliburton's pace of play. Halliburton gets the ball. Up court, he's different. But this whole thing, well, he wasn't creative enough. All I know is Tim's created a culture tough, physical Villanova pro style. Now they're looking to college. That's not the answer. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd.
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Colin Cowherd
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Matt Hasselbeck
The Road to 26 continues tomorrow on FS1 with the Gold cup semifinal as the US Men's National Team takes on Guatemala. No easy path, no second chances. Coverage begins tomorrow at 6 Eastern on FS1.
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Colin Cowherd
We have Tyler Adams on the show today. He'll be a World cup guy. Tyler Adams will be favored over Guatemala. So I think, you know, I've said this before. If I didn't do this for a living, my dream job would be a general manager of an NFL team. And I just, I love the draft. I like building stuff, and it's been like that since I was a kid. I just like building stuff, and I think my best source is in the league. I was talking to one last night, our NFL execs, and I love the sport, and I always thought, what a cool job. And, and, and so it's, I like the idea of when you get into these situations, these executives on, would you take an old star or an emerging young star? That's one of the hard ones. So everybody loves Luka, right? Luka, Luca. But I, I made the argument for years he's a better version of Carmelo Anthony. And Carmelo's a Hall of Famer, too. But it's very interesting, Avery Johnson saying right now he would take Cooper flag going forward over Luka, man, give me Cooper flag.
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E
Really?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Cooper flag in this team? Yeah, give me Cooper flag, man. You're talking about a team when they're healthy. Got three future hall of Famers with Kyrie Ad and Klay Thompson. So this is really exciting. The Mavericks, their future is bright, but they have a window when they're healthy.
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Colin Cowherd
Of the next two to three years.
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Matt Hasselbeck
With this roster as currently constructed.
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Colin Cowherd
So I just want you to think about this. So Luca has been in the NBA for Seven seasons. That's a grind. And he's been attacked for seven years. Right? He's a scorer, so people are throwing bodies at him. He also played three years in Europe against older players. So he has been grinding against men for 10 years. And we all know that athletes age differently based on how good a shape they're in. Well, Mellow, for instance. My comp for Luca peaked at 28. By 29 years old, his scoring dropped noticeably, was Never again top 10 MVP. Mellow aged fast. LeBron at 38, 10 years older than Mellow's peak. I mean, he treats his body like a temple. 29 a game, 50% from the field, all star, Western Conference finals. Okay? Tom Brady at 45 was better than Aaron Rodgers at 38, 39 or Big Ben at 37. So Luca, to me, he is an old soul. Now he's about 26 years old now he's an old 26. And I'm sure he has four more peak years. And Hayes working out this off season. Cooper flag may have 12 peak years. And, and, and Cooper flag, day one in the NBA will be a better defender than Luka. That's not disputable. Cooper Flag will be a better defender first week in the league. So to me, if Cooper flag is 75 to 85%, Luka, the offensive player eventually and I get four years of the rookie deal. Absolutely. And here's the thing about Luca. Here's the thing about Luca. 25 dunks in his rookie season. One dunk last year. We saw that. So you are. The data is clear. Dude is aging. We saw this with James Harden. His dunk numbers kept going back down and down and down. And then James Harden's still good, but he's a limited offensive player on what he can perform right now. Luca, this is all he is at 26. He's a step back guy. He's not a play downhill, attack the rim, dunk over guys. That's not what he does at 26. Athletes age differently. I would argue Luca is an old 26. Cooper flag is a young NBA rookie. I mean, Jason Kidd, remember the introductory press conference, what Jason Kidd said? Here's Jason Kidd just sitting here listening to him. Is it incredible? I mean, we're talking about an 18 year old who has all the right answers and is talking about working out after this. But you know, when you talk about his gift, he's a basketball player and he's a winner. Also, Luca still plays frequently for Slovenia. So you know, he came into the NBA with three international seasons against Older, physical players, seven years in the NBA, being a lead scorer, bodies being thrown at him isn't in great shape. Mello's a hall of Famer, but at 28, peaked. And that was just one year of college. He played just one year of college at Syracuse, won a title, went to the NBA. 28 peaked, was not quite the same player and age fast. Remember that time when he laughed about being a bench guy for okc? That's what he was. And so, and then all of a sudden Mello had to go, yeah, this is what I am. Luca doesn't dunk anymore. He doesn't play as downhill as he used to. And you? I can like Luca. I like Luka a lot. I think he's really, really good. But I think Laker fans remember the day the Luca trade was made. The sense was woohoo. Lakers are headed to the finals, they housed Dallas. And then you're like, well, Max, Chris, he's not bad. And AD's really good when he's healthy. And I look at Dallas today, if Luke is as good as you told me, I look at Dallas today, I look at the Lakers today, next five years. Who would you rather be? I would rather be Dallas. Best front line in the NBA, hall of Famer in AD still plays on a nightly basis as an elite score and defender. And here comes Cooper flag. So it just, there are certain players, the closer you get to them. You know, I always say this in baseball, nobody knows a team's bullpen better than the fans of that team. How do you feel when your team goes to the setup guy? As a baseball fan in Atlanta, you're like, yeah, I don't love this. Because baseball, such a long season, the die hard baseball fans in a city know their bullpen better than any member of the media. They're covering it, they're seeing it every night. How do you feel when your team goes to the pen in the seventh inning? And I feel that with Luca, the closer you are to Luca, it's not just highlights. You get all the warts, you see that he can't defend, you see that he can be ball centric and he's gifted. I'm not denying it, he's great and I think he's got four years left. But Cooper flag, I think you're going to figure out by the all Star game, you're like, oh, it looks pretty good. And Cooper Flagg comes in, he does not have to be a dominant score. Now with DLO there, DLO, AD didn't have to be a dominant score. 18 play defense. Going to do just fine in Dallas. Now. J. Mac loves Luca. J. Mac loves Luca. He likes guys that shoot. So. Just saying. He's 26. He's an old 26.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Colin. Colin, my friend, I had to take some notes as you were jotting this down. Obviously, tomorrow's a big day here on the show, so I'm taking some extra notes. Did you really just say Luka's basically a step back guy now? Did you say that?
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Colin Cowherd
That's kind of what he is. Did you say no more dunks? Doesn't play downhill.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Fifteen months ago, he put the Mavericks on his back and took them to the finals. Okay. Then he played in the Olympics in the summer. Then he got hurt. He barely played last year. He played 50 games due to the injury. Like, I. I can't believe you just called.
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Colin Cowherd
He's been hurt. He has been hurt twice since the Olympics. That's what happens when you're not in great shape.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, they made him run to the finals and he was running everything on that offense. Then he played in the Olympics. Like, that's a lot of basketball.
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Colin Cowherd
And then he got hurt, and then they got hurt again.
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Matt Hasselbeck
He's working out. Let me just ask you if, If Cooper flag you would take over Luca. Who? Is there anybody you're not taking over Cooper Flag?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you. Yeah, absolutely. There's, there's.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I mean, Giannis.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, there's. First of all, Cooper Flags. The best. The best domestic draft pick since LeBron.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Okay. Are you taking Wemby or Cooper flag right now?
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Colin Cowherd
Right now you take Wemby because he's such a dominant, game altering defensive player.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You take Wemb, Ga or Cooper flag.
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Colin Cowherd
Right now, going forward. I'd probably take Cooper flag.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I would, too. And I know that people are going to hate that because SGA is amazing, but. Yeah, so I would put Cooper Flag in that. Like, he's going to be pretty soon a top 10 guy in the league, probably within the next five years. Is that safe to say?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I. Yes, I. Absolutely. And I'm just saying my whole point is Avery Johnson said, give me Cooper flag. And my take is. That's what I think. And that's not a knock on Luca. Luca's still a top, top 12 player in the league. Top 10 player depending on the night, depending on his health. All right, hour two coming up. Urban Meyer, Albert Brewer. Okay. Have you heard about this last year degree changed the formula for their cool rush deodorant and their fans rebelled and wanted the old scent back. And degree listened. That doesn't happen often. They admitted they effed up and they're bringing back the original Cool Rush scent. They're bringing it back and it's exactly how you remember it. Cool, crisp and fresh. There's a reason it's the number one man antiperspirant and it's back in Walmart, Target and other stores now for under four bucks. So try and see what the fuss is about. Head to your local Walmart or Target to try the OG degree Cool Rush for yourself.
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Colin Cowherd
The Democratic nominee for president will be.
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Someone that has been out there and.
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Colin Cowherd
Has shown that they won't allow themselves.
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Colin Cowherd
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