Hour 1 - Tucker Accusations & Belichick Hypotheticals

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd Episode: Hour 1 - Tucker Accusations & Belichick Hypotheticals
Release Date: January 31, 2025

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I. Justin Tucker Accusations

The episode opens with a serious discussion about Justin Tucker, the renowned kicker for the Baltimore Ravens. Tucker has been implicated in allegations involving inappropriate sexual behavior by at least six different massage therapists between 2012 and 2016. These accusations surfaced recently, prompting immediate termination from multiple spas in the Baltimore area.

Colin Cowherd [09:58]: "Justin Tucker had a little bit of an issue at some massage parlors between 2012 and 2016. At least six different massage therapists accused him of inappropriate sexual behavior."

Tucker has unequivocally denied these allegations, maintaining his innocence amidst the growing scrutiny. The NFL has launched an investigation to ascertain the validity of these claims, raising concerns about Tucker's performance on the field.

Colin Cowherd [10:21]: "Tucker is denied this. The NFL is investigating, and it just begs the question, you know, maybe this might have been what. Why he was struggling this year."

The hosts delve into the potential reasons behind the investigation, speculating whether Tucker's alleged off-field issues contributed to his on-field struggles this season. They draw parallels to similar cases, notably Deshaun Watson's, to explore how such allegations can impact a player's career and public perception.

II. Racial Barriers and Power Dynamics

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the intersection of race and power within the NFL. The hosts question whether systemic racial biases influenced the handling of Tucker's case compared to other high-profile incidents.

Jonas Knox [12:24]: "It crosses racial barriers for certain, not just because they're not. There's power."

They explore the disparity in consequences faced by players of different races, suggesting that African American players like Tucker might receive harsher scrutiny or less leniency compared to their counterparts. This segment underscores the ongoing conversation about racial equality in professional sports.

III. Belichick Hypotheticals

Shifting gears, the podcast delves into speculative territory regarding Bill Belichick, the esteemed head coach formerly of the New England Patriots, and his hypothetical move to the North Carolina Tar Heels.

Brady Quinn [28:09]: "I think when Bill Belichick signed with North Carolina, I kind of thought, okay, he wants to go that route."

The hosts analyze the potential reasons behind Belichick's career moves and the implications for the NFL. They discuss his relationship with Tom Brady and speculate on how Belichick's coaching philosophy might clash or harmonize with current team dynamics.

Colin Cowherd [33:14]: "It's not like he's just won a New England. He had success in Cleveland. He had success as a DC with the Giants."

They further compare Belichick's leadership style with that of Pete Carroll, the current head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, highlighting differences in management and team culture. The discussion raises questions about the future landscape of NFL coaching and team success.

IV. Chiefs Super Bowl 59 Preparation

The conversation transitions to the Kansas City Chiefs' preparations for their fifth Super Bowl appearance in six years, drawing comparisons to the Patriots' dominance in the past two decades.

Ryan Music [47:18]: "I like the extra time a lot because it gave me extra time to do all the prep that I needed to do."

Tom Brady shares insights from his experiences in previous Super Bowls, emphasizing the importance of preparation and adaptability. The hosts commend Brady's strategic adjustments leading to successful outcomes, drawing parallels to the Chiefs' current strategies under Patrick Mahomes.

Colin Cowherd [48:18]: "Sounds like me getting ready for a show."

The segment underscores the Chiefs' consistent performance and strategic prowess, positioning them as formidable contenders in the upcoming Super Bowl.

V. Bengals' Receiver Decisions

Attention then turns to the Cincinnati Bengals, who are grappling with critical decisions regarding their star receivers: Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, and Ed Drescher. Quarterback Joe Burrow comments on the team's need to manage salary cap constraints while retaining key players.

Brady Quinn [50:23]: "He gets his receiver. Keeps him happy. You know, we saw Jamar Chase hold out for his final year of eligibility in college football."

Burrow emphasizes the importance of rewarding performance and maintaining team cohesion, even as financial limitations necessitate tough choices. The hosts discuss the potential impacts of these decisions on the Bengals' offensive dynamics and long-term success.

Colin Cowherd [51:37]: "Listen to NHL Unscripted with Vir and."

The conversation highlights the delicate balance teams must maintain between financial management and player retention to remain competitive in the league.

VI. Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, the hosts briefly touch upon upcoming topics, including a segment on NFL legends and their strategic approaches to the biggest games of the season. They encourage listeners to stay tuned for further in-depth analyses and discussions.

Colin Cowherd [46:44]: "Before we get to the Herdline news, though, a reminder, shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up."

The episode concludes with a nod to continued storytelling and engagement with the audience, reinforcing the podcast's commitment to delivering thought-provoking sports commentary.

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Notable Quotes:

• Colin Cowherd [09:58]: "Justin Tucker had a little bit of an issue at some massage parlors between 2012 and 2016."
• Jonas Knox [12:24]: "It crosses racial barriers for certain, not just because they're not. There's power."
• Brady Quinn [28:09]: "I think when Bill Belichick signed with North Carolina, I kind of thought, okay, he wants to go that route."
• Ryan Music [47:18]: "I like the extra time a lot because it gave me extra time to do all the prep that I needed to do."
• Brady Quinn [50:23]: "He gets his receiver. Keeps him happy."

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to The Herd with Colin Cowherd. The inclusion of notable quotes with timestamps offers precise references to significant moments in the conversation.

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[Jonas Knox]

Now, let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, that's right. It's the herd here. Fox Sports Radio. No. Colin Cowherd. Instead, it's two pros and a cup of Joe. Myself, Jonas Knox, alongside Levar Arrington and Brady Quinn. And we will be taking you all the way up until 3:00 Eastern Time, noon Pacific here at FSR. As we are a little over a week away from Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans. We are going to be there next week. Is this the proverbial calm before the storm, or are we at the point to where we're just kind of. We. We've run through the. The gauntlet of topics to get ready for this one game. How we feeling?

[Brady Quinn]

It's the calm before Lavar. It gets to New Orleans. That's what it is.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's right.

[Jonas Knox]

We have to be very careful about calm before storms while speaking on referencing New Orleans. So, you know, it's a little too soon, you know, I mean, you know.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, that's fair. That is fair.

[Jonas Knox]

Just got to be careful with storms and all that stuff.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

But Lavar is going to show up and he will touch down on a slur. Okay, there we go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm gonna jump on a hurricane.

[Brady Quinn]

I love how you just told us we need to temper it down and then you just made a song out of it. That was great.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm black. I can do dam. I can get away with what.

[Brady Quinn]

On that note.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm a black man, so going to leverage.

[Brady Quinn]

It's great.

[Jonas Knox]

You know, it's easy to leverage it these days. So I'm. I'm going to go ahead and rock with it.

[Brady Quinn]

You're going to lean into it, huh?

[Jonas Knox]

I'mma lean all the way into it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, man. All right. I'm just trying to figure out how.

[Jonas Knox]

We Bang bang got it going early. If you weren't stimulated. I got to. If your ears weren't perked up, they perked up.

[Brady Quinn]

Now, who put together this rundown?

[Colin Cowherd]

I did not.

[Brady Quinn]

Gotta talk about this subject to start off the show.

[Colin Cowherd]

I. I did not. I will not be held accountable for this. Ryan, that was. What do you mean? That's lead to lab. That's a lead to lab special. Ryan. Music had nothing to do.

[Jonas Knox]

There wasn't even an email, by the way, you know, so I'm blind.

[Colin Cowherd]

You got the Lee mail.

[Jonas Knox]

I have the Lee mail. I mean, y'all expect me to be in up to date on all this technology and be into the Google or the Docs and all that stuff? I'm not.

[Brady Quinn]

Can we bring in Ryan for this and ask him if. Is it that hard to log into a Google Doc?

[Ryan Music]

Ryan, I've. I've seen the challenges that can come up with Google Docs. So you know what? You know Lee Dalap, who is your fantastic producer for your guys's regular show through the regular time slot. He's. He's going through a lot right now. I don't know if you guys know this. I'm going to peel back the curtain.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh.

[Ryan Music]

Lead to that. May be homeless right now. So the guy's going through a lot. Cut him some slack. There's just a time of transition, if you will.

[Jonas Knox]

You have to expand on that. What do you mean? What do you mean?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, I got a notification after my, you know, afternoon nap yesterday that our place was being rented out for the month, so I had a few hours to get ready to pack up the entire place.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, that's great.

[Jonas Knox]

Hold on.

[Ryan Music]

Google Docs at the bottom of his priority list right now. So we're just.

[Colin Cowherd]

Have some grace.

[Brady Quinn]

Have some grace.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why didn't you say anything, Lee?

[Jonas Knox]

You're trying to rent. You were trying to rent it out.

[LeVar Arrington]

I have.

[Brady Quinn]

Someone set the stage, please. So someone set the stage for this.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, God.

[LeVar Arrington]

So, yeah, my, My. My place is now. I don't have anywhere to go after the show. I'll just be here until we go to New Orleans. I can't wait to go sleep at a hotel.

[Jonas Knox]

You have.

[Brady Quinn]

This is a new audience. You have to explain in 30 seconds how you got to being homeless right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is this real?

[Brady Quinn]

Like, this a real.

[Jonas Knox]

Hear the realness in his voice.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm stunned.

[Jonas Knox]

Like, how do you not keep up with your boy's feelings, man? That's your. That's.

[Colin Cowherd]

He didn't tell me. I didn't know anything.

[LeVar Arrington]

You guys didn't pick up that there was nothing done on the Google Doc until about 30 minutes before the show today?

[Colin Cowherd]

That's not outside the norm.

[Brady Quinn]

Still looks like there's nothing done. Let me. Let me fill everyone quickly. Okay. Lee is in. Let's just call it a relationship.

[Jonas Knox]

Although relationship purgatory, but go ahead.

[Brady Quinn]

Pretty volatile at best.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

And he happens to share a place with this loved one and they, I guess, are trying to sell it. They fix it up. Trying to sell it to leave, and she's gone for what, two weeks, Lee?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, I actually just dropped her off at LAX on the way here. She actually flew back in to help me get the place ready.

[Brady Quinn]

So hold on. Update us, because the last we heard, you were trying to sell it, not trying to rent it. This changes things.

[Jonas Knox]

To get away, by the way.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Not just. Not just to sell it. To sell it. You are selling it. So y'all could get away from one.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's right.

[Jonas Knox]

Let's be clear on this.

[Brady Quinn]

So you could get away from her.

[Jonas Knox]

But. Yeah. Yes.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yes, it is. It is listed. Well, now it's not. Now we've taken it off listings. We canceled all our open houses this weekend.

[Jonas Knox]

Why is that, Lee?

[LeVar Arrington]

Because it's. Because I rented it out for the month.

[Brady Quinn]

You're renting it for only a month.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes, but if you can sell it while you're renting it, Lee, like you put them in the homeless situation. Let the renters go find another place to rent. Lee, there's another reason why you took it off the listing. To sell it. Tell the truth.

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, the realtors wanted to take it off. It doesn't look good that it's just sitting there without an open house and all that stuff. It's not.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, maybe it's the lounge chair in the kitchen.

[Jonas Knox]

That's the bedroom, by the way. And the.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, the gut, the gun holes, the gunshots in the bedroom.

[LeVar Arrington]

We got a family of.

[Colin Cowherd]

Or the revolver hanging from the ceiling.

[Jonas Knox]

Maybe they just don't want to sell the home because maybe they're trying to figure out if their love has rekindled.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, that's what I think it is.

[Colin Cowherd]

Speak clearly here.

[Brady Quinn]

And I think you're onto this.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes.

[LeVar Arrington]

So now there's a family of five sleeping in my kitchen. Yes.

[Ryan Music]

All right.

[Jonas Knox]

Who's the family of five in the.

[Brady Quinn]

Are they related to Jonas?

[Colin Cowherd]

Dang.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, pause. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Lee, sorry about the pickup truck and yard rake.

[Brady Quinn]

Did you say Jose's Landscaper? What do you say?

[Ryan Music]

So.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wow. I had no idea.

[Brady Quinn]

So that we really try hard not to get asked to be back on the herd.

[Colin Cowherd]

That might explain why the topic says, let's start off with Justin Tucker, which I'm not really sure why. Why somebody put. Put two. Why did somebody put two GS in the middle of his last name?

[Jonas Knox]

I don't get it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Who's. Who's the class act here on the. On this show? So from Lee's situation, which nobody really knew about until till just moments ago, to the situation involving Justin Tucker, who.

[Jonas Knox]

You know, apparently went to school with Deshaun Watson.

[Colin Cowherd]

I. Listen, I don't want to make those jokes here, all right? Like, that's.

[Jonas Knox]

It's too soon.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, well, I think it. I think it's too soon. And we're not. You know, there's. There's a lot of people out there that. That are high up in the NFL, like Robert Kraft, who don't want to see the league tarnished like this. So I just. I think it's.

[Jonas Knox]

Bobby Orchids.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

I just think it's fair that we. That we represent this in the proper manner.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm sorry. Let's go.

[Colin Cowherd]

From the Baltimore Banner. Justin Tucker had a little bit of an issue at some massage parlors between 2012 and 2016. At least six different massage therapists accused him of inappropriate sexual behavior. The details are gross. I mean, you could look that up. You know, some things left behind that probably shouldn't have been any. Who.

[Jonas Knox]

DNA, what possibly.

[Colin Cowherd]

And multiple spas immediately terminated him as a client. Tucker is denied this. The NFL is investigating, and it just begs the question, you know, maybe this might have been what. Why he was struggling this year. Maybe there was some stuff that was about to come out, and he was having a little bit of an issue focusing, so. There's wrongs.

[Brady Quinn]

Wrong with guys, man. Can't they just, like, be a pro on and off the field? Like, what is. I don't get it. I. I really don't. It's not that complicated. It's not that hard. Well, I guess in this case, it probably was.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Very.

[Brady Quinn]

It's something about the AFC north, man. Seems like.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, that's what you're gonna go with?

[Brady Quinn]

I'm just saying, like, it's. It seems to be there's a different.

[Jonas Knox]

AFC in there, though, with Bobby Orchid. So there is a little bit sprinkled in from a different afc, but it does seem.

[Brady Quinn]

But aren't they the most northern AFC east team or is Buff are more further north?

[Jonas Knox]

It doesn't even really matter. Right? I mean, that's a New England state. Like, it's a New England place. It's very far north. You know, Cleveland north. Well, Midwest. Dang. Now Baltimore. Baltimore's. What is Baltimore? That's not north north, is it? That's, like, the lowest north.

[Brady Quinn]

It's AFC North. It's north. For the NFL standards, it's.

[Jonas Knox]

There you go. I. I mean, hey, tomato, tomato. The bottom line here is, is that something incorrect is taking place. I'm. I'm curious as to. Now. Now it crosses racial barriers for certain, not just because they're not. There's power. You could say, you know, Robert Kraft, you know, with his situation at Orchids of Asia, like, okay, whatever, he's an owner. Like, he's not going to get fired or, you know, I don't know. You know, he'll deal with what he deals with. But now you have two players that have gone through the same exact situation. What, What?

[Colin Cowherd]

It's just like, let's just breeze over.

[Jonas Knox]

Robert. Crap.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like, you were. You were thinking black and white. I was just thinking weirdo. I don't know. I don't know.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm glad it doesn't just settle down. And I. I'm glad it situated itself in a weirdo category. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. It's so simple sometimes so easy to fall into just kind of maybe, you know, stereotyping or, you know, drawing a quick conclusion. And for what it's worth, I've always said kickers are people, too. And you know what? Now Justin Tucker has taken that. That definition to a whole nother level. Like, he didn't want to just be seen as a player, like, you're a person, too, on the football team. He wanted to be looked at as, like, you know, like, quarterback. Like, this is one of the main positions. And I'll show you, we get the same type of action that. That the quarterbacks get. And. And I think this was the wrong way to go about proving that to the people and to the culture, to. To the fans, but nonetheless, he did. So here we are, and we're talking about it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, that's.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, there you go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Not great. Brady, your thoughts on this whole situation involving Justin Tucker, and it's ridiculous.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, hopefully things will, you know, be better on the up and up. I mean, that's all you can really say. I mean, I just. You hope that all the things that have been put out there aren't true, but it's hard when there's this much smoke. I mean, that was. It was the same thing with. Even in Deshaun Watson's case, as much as you, you know, looked at the. The allegations and you're saying, okay, in this country, it's. It's innocent until proven guilty. What came to my mind was, you know, he had 30 some allegations, and then you had like, 30 some that came out in his defense. And my first question was, why the hell do you have 60 massage therapists, like, 34 year, 30 against you? However, I mean, the whole thing was ridiculous.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, you're talking one city.

[Brady Quinn]

All you needed at that point in time was one, maybe two. Right. Like, you don't need 60 or however, massage therapists. In this case, when you look at the details, it's alarming because you're saying, well, why. Why did he have so many massage therapists just in Baltimore now? He's been there forever, and he's been extremely successful and maybe, you know, wanted to change things, whatever. I'm sure there's some sort of rationale or something to this, but I. I just. It's hard to buy into it that he's completely innocent. And I know I'm going against what I just said a moment ago, but again, it just. It's hard when there's this much smoke not to think that there's something more there.

[Jonas Knox]

How many allegations are against Tucker?

[Colin Cowherd]

He was kicked out of at least six massage therapists. He was kicked out of a bunch of different spas in the Baltimore area.

[Jonas Knox]

What type of spalls were they? Do we know the type? Were they red light spawls? Were they, like. Were they upscale spalls?

[Brady Quinn]

You told me, Lavar, like, if they had a water table that was like the telling signs that you said.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is that what you said, Levar?

[Jonas Knox]

I don't recall that, but if Q said it, then I probably mentioned it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Huh. That's interesting.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, I just. I've always known that if. If it had. Like, this is what I learned when I was early in the league, and I won't. I'll leave some of my teammates nameless. But he always said, look for the red open sign. That's the massage parlor. He he them. They enjoyed going to. Were the massage parlor. Spa spas.

[Brady Quinn]

So you're saying, like, on 10pm on a Tuesday night, that red sign should not say open is what you're saying.

[Jonas Knox]

It probably shouldn't say open.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's so reckless. There's my favorite Indian food place back home. They have a red open sign.

[Brady Quinn]

I'm not gonna let that restaurant.

[Jonas Knox]

That's a restaurant. And even to that point, there might be a soda machine. There might be a. A, like a. A door off to the side, and that's connected to that open side. Keep being honest.

[Colin Cowherd]

So you pull a candle down by the fireplace, and then it opens.

[Jonas Knox]

You walk right in.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'll try that.

[Jonas Knox]

Speakeasies like that. And they got r like that. I'm just saying. Damn.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, you know, hey, listen. Yeah, I mean, hey, look.

[Jonas Knox]

Red open sides. Hey, people out there, I'm putting you up on a little game. If you, if you see a massage parlor and it's in a city and you just happen to be walking by, like Q said, and it's like nine, you know, 10 o'clock and it says open, chances are that's the massage parlor that these guys were going to.

[Colin Cowherd]

All I'll just say is this somebody who listens to our show in the morning from 6 to 9 Eastern Time, who's pretty connected in the Baltimore area. He sent me a message before this stuff came out and he says it's legit. So if that's a legit spa, a legit store. Well, you know, apparently there's also some.

[Brady Quinn]

Tweets that have been next door.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, no, there's some tweets that were sent out a few years back that kind of indicated something was going on that everybody in the area kind of knew. It wasn't a very well kept secret that Justin Tucker had, you know, some issues with this and had been kicked out of several places.

[Jonas Knox]

So I mean, that gives, that gives a new meaning to his name now, doesn't it? Just A Tucker.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Like, I mean, dang. Definitely hits differently.

[Colin Cowherd]

Here's my question though. From an NFL standpoint, how does the league handle this? Like, how did they.

[Jonas Knox]

Got to sit them down. Yeah, I mean, got to shut them down and depending on like, you know, they'll leave it up to. And I know Q is the legal guy here, but.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sure is.

[Jonas Knox]

I'll just say this.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, I have no idea why.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't either. But you're good at it. You sound like you know it, so I defer, but I'll just say deshaun Watson set the tone for what? I mean, maybe Bobby Orchids did. Robert, Robert Kraft set the tone, but desean did it for players. And whatever it is that that has come out and has popped up, they have to, they have to get Justin Tucker out of the way. He can't be like he's a kicker. It's not like he, I mean, but he's a, he's a high profile kicker, but he can't be on the field. First things first. No matter if he, you know, the whole innocent until proven guilty, that's fine. He can't be active right now. That's. First things first. It's like he can't be active. I would, I would assume that'd be the first step cue that would be taken as just making sure people know that they're investigating it, they're aware of it and until further notice of what. What's going on until we find out more about what's going on. You know, Justin Tucker is probably to just stay away and stay wherever he's going to be, but not be at the facility or a part of anything that's Ravens related.

[Brady Quinn]

I would assume this is a classic case of why the commissioner's exempt list was created because you're able to determine what the facts are and figure this out. Now, there's a couple of different things at play here. Right. I don't know if the lawsuit's civil in nature or if it's criminal in nature from this report, because that makes a big difference. Right. If it's criminal, obviously the burden of proof to prove what he did was wrong is much greater. However, you know, in regards to the player conduct policy, both still play a factor. But if it's a criminal conviction, if that happens down the road, you think that not only is the evidence more damning, that not only are they going to know from a legal standpoint, but also the NFL is going to be able to find out. The suspension would be just as punitive. Meaning Watson's was, I believe, 11 games, which not to get off on a tangent here, I am curious to know because of how everything transpired with the trade and he goes to Cleveland. If they weren't playing Houston in that Week 12 game back in 2022 in December, if it would have been longer and if it would have been, you know, any. Any more, you know, again, putative only because I think the NFL, NFL was kind of selling that. They might not want to admit that, but selling every part of that. The fact that he's in Cleveland, he's making his return to Houston. Yeah, like that's. That's something's going to make people want to tune in and watch because it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is kind of a random number to throw out on a suspension. You know, like two games, four games. It has 11. It's like, you know, come on.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, I can't recall if there was any tweaking to that number. If he had appealed it and they had reduced it, which I can't again imagine. And I don't remember that being the case. So the 11 number was just kind of odd. Typically they like even numbers. If you guys recall, back during the Ray Rice situation, it kind became almost common that if there was a domestic violence issue, it'd be six games. That was the minimum.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

That players were.

[Jonas Knox]

Or forever.

[Brady Quinn]

So. So in this case it really comes down to, I think what the. The NFL or is able to gather. But I think you, you'll have an idea of that based on. I haven't looked to see if it's criminal or civil, but that, that'll give you a sense if it's civil. Again, burden proof is a lot harder to be able to award. You know, in this case, the, the plaintiffs, what they're looking to get.

[Jonas Knox]

And you will be a little bit lenient, more lenient if you're the league. Right. If it's civil, if it's.

[Brady Quinn]

So here's the thing.

[Jonas Knox]

It might hit a little different, correct?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, I mean, I don't know how deep we're going to go in this right now, but I don't think that matters as much. I, I think what, you know, what they're gonna have as far as what they can prove from an evidence standpoint is why I'm bringing this up. Because if you have a really big slam dunk case and you'll probably try both, it'd be criminal and civil. Right. If you don't have quite as much damning evidence, you probably would want to go the civil route because that's the only way you're going to probably be able to feel like, you know, your plaintiff is going to be able to get any sort of fulfillment of that verdict. Right. Like, you'd hate to see them lose in that case. A lot of people are going to say, well, maybe it's a money grab. Maybe they just want to settle and this stuff was going on, so they just want to, you know, a payday, whatever the case is. But all those things are still out there in both cases. But typically, when you see someone try a criminal case first, it's because they've got more damning evidence. They want that person to pay and for their freedom to be impacted. So I would say it doesn't matter if it's criminal or civil in this case. It really comes down to, you know, what evidence is out there to prove one way or another. And then what the NFL was able to ascertain from all of that. And if they can, if they can build enough of a case to sit there and say, we feel like this is heinous and just as bad as Deshaun Watson, then, yeah, you'd have to say 11 games would be at least what we've seen so far. The interesting thing is that I thought the DeSean Watson case would be a unicorn. Like, we never see that again in the NFL. And now we're here, what, two years, two and a half years later, dealing with the, heading into the 20, 25 season.

[Colin Cowherd]

Again, it is the Herd. Here on Fox Sports Radio. It's lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox filling in for Colin Cow today on this Friday. Coming up next here, though, we are going to tell you how apparently somebody in the NFL, a legend, not thrilled with a move that another organization has made. We've got the details right here on fsr. Be sure to catch live editions of.

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It's the Herd, Fox Sports Radio, Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up here in a little over 15 minutes from now in another edition of the Herd Line News with Ryan Music. We are going to hear from the goat talking about his preparation as we get set for the biggest game of the year. That'll be yours here on fsr. Speaking of the go, a lot of people would argue that that would be Bill Belichick, who is currently the head coach for the North Carolina Tar Heels. According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, apparently Bill Belichick was not all that thrilled with the Raiders hiring of Pete Carroll.

[Brady Quinn]

I guess you can understand why, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, like, this.

[Brady Quinn]

Is what I feel like. It was not my instant reaction, you know, because I think when Bill Belichick signed with North Carolina, I kind of thought, okay, he wants to go that route. Maybe it's more about setting up his son, Steve Belichick, to become the head coach in waiting or eventually be able to take over as a head coach and get his foot in the door. And so I thought that was more of his prerogative. But then when you really peel back the curtains, when you see the Raiders hire Pete Carroll, who's a year older, and obviously Tom Brady, having played a role in the interview process, and the fact that, I don't know, even if he did reach out to Bill Belichick, he wouldn't push and do everything he could to get Bill Belichick there as the head coach. I mean, it's a. It's a small buyout. $10 million is not much for a buyout. So the fact that the Las Vegas Raiders would opt for Pete Carroll, again, who's a year older, obviously successful, you know, as won a Super bowl, been to Super Bowls. It's. It's not so much that in my mind, it's just like, if you're going to hire someone at that age to set up the foundation of your organization for the future and for whoever that next coach is or that, you know, head coach in waiting is, wouldn't you think you'd go with the guy that you've won six Super Bowls with?

[Jonas Knox]

I'll just say this. I think both of them have been reported as control freaks, you know, by the media. Like, I think there was one point in time where they said there was no one for. For Pete Carroll to have to answer to in the Seahawks organization. He pretty much, you know, ran the team the way that he wanted to run the team. Bill Belichick probably had more resistance in that category, having to probably deal with Robert Kraft. I think entering into the scenario, though, if there was one person out of the two that maybe made people feel more comfortable, and I know this could be overstated, but I just find it to be some accuracy to it, maybe some validity connected to. Still remains, that the reputation of Bill Belichick is very, very intimidating to people. And now I look at it, I'm like, okay, well, well, Tom Brady played for him. And Tom Brady is familiar with who Bill Belichick is as the coach, as the administrator, as the authoritarian, as. As, you know, as the person. But with that being said, you're one person. And one thing that we got to take into consideration with Tom Brady stepping into this situation of ownership with this organization and taking on personnel duties, taking on team duties, is that there's relationships that have to play a part in what Tom Brady Is doing. If you bring in somebody and it just happens to go down the lane of oh s. He is the guy that we thought he was coming in. Oh. He is difficult to deal with. With. Oh. This isn't a very comfortable situation. And while it may be what this organization needs, if it's one thing I learned being in the league, that's not always readily welcomed. It's not always easy to change the status quo, to change comfort levels. And maybe both of them will come in and do that. Maybe that's what they bring to the table with their. Their knowledge of the game, being around it. As long as they haven't had the success, they've had that. But the level of success that Bill Belichick had, I would. I just gotta think it has to be his way to a very large degree if you're going to get or want or expect the type of results that he was able to get. Which, by the way, I don't even think it's realistic to think that Bill Belichick could recreate that or any other coach. I don't think any other coach to recreate that either.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like, do we know. Did he get any official interview this hiring cycle? We know he got the Falcons last year, but like, any hiring. In any interview, this hiring cycle from anybody. Because I don't think he did. Like, I just think it was. Well, maybe he's a possibility. Maybe there's some speculation that Belichick would be interested here. Maybe there. Like, I don't. Like, there was no ever official interview. No nothing. And to me, that says more about those organizations than it does him. Like, and we've talked about it on our show before. Like, if that guy walks into a room, you listen. Like, I don't. I don't stand over my mechanic shoulder and go, no, no, you do that. You do this over here. Somebody put that. No, they know what they're doing. I don't. He knows what the hell he's doing. Like, look at his track record. It's not like he just won a New England. He had success in Cleveland. He had success as a DC with the Giants. Like, he's been in the league for. For decades.

[Jonas Knox]

The idea that make you expendable and who wants to be expendable? I've seen it happen.

[Brady Quinn]

Then that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Then that's.

[Jonas Knox]

Seen it happen.

[Colin Cowherd]

Then that's.

[Jonas Knox]

Then that's the organization when Marty. Yes.

[Ryan Music]

That's ridiculous.

[Jonas Knox]

That's ridiculous. They fired Marty after one year because of what we're talking about. It was intimidating. It was football People stick to football things. Administrator, sales stick to sales. Go figure, right? This is very, very, like, sensible. You know, media stick to media. You know, cooks stick to cooks. Trainers stick to training. But they did not. That was not received well by ownership in Washington, and he was gone after a year.

[Brady Quinn]

Who was the owner then? Was that Little Danny?

[Jonas Knox]

It was Little Danny.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, okay.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, it was Little Danny.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, that. That, I think, had a lot to do with it, too.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean. I mean, Bill, Mark.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know that. Here's the reality is we all think that whatever fracture, breakup Tom Brady and Bill Belichick had, we watched the roast, and I think some of what we think. I mean, obviously, Bill Belichick attends. What we actually took from the roast was that, hey, maybe there are some jokes that cut a little deeper than Tom Brady had anticipated. That was more of the takeaway from.

[Jonas Knox]

It, because he had.

[Brady Quinn]

And it seemed like there was. There was a bit of an awkwardness, too, with Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft and Tom Brady. Robert Kraft and that whole triangle. But what we didn't take away from it is like, well, how patched up is this relationship? I mean, how much does Tom Brady look at Bill Belichick and say, yeah, this is the guy that, if I had the chance as an owner, I'd want to bring in to get my organization run the right way because he had the chance?

[Jonas Knox]

Can I ask you this based off of what you're saying? Why would Tom Brady want to be lumped into what became the ultimate narrative of the Patriots? Who was the reason? Was it Robert Kraft? Was it Bill Belichick? Was it Tom Brady? Was it Tom Brady and Bill Belichick? Was it Tom Brady and Robert Kraft? Was it Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick? Who was it? If I'm Tom Brady, why would I even invite that into the door? Because the minute Bill Belichick comes in there, what are you going to say? What is it? What does it end up shaking out to be?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, to me, Tom Brady already proved that it's Tom Brady. I mean, he went to Tampa and won his first year away. I mean, literally, with the greatest, you could say, hurdles of any quarterback they've had to deal with because of COVID I mean, you went through a season where you couldn't practice with your teammates. Remember, he was knocking on people's doors, the wrong doors at the playbook. He got kicked out of a public park for trying to practice with his teammates. But here, you had the least amount of time. So in that one year's time he's able to prove that not only can he win a Super bowl, he made a bag even at that age. And then you watch things continually fall apart in New England. So I think he's already stated that case. And even if he brought in Bill Belichick to be the head coach, Tom Brady's not playing anymore. He's just the owner or a limited partner challenge.

[Jonas Knox]

I would challenge that by saying, because again, a lot of people looked at Tom Brady, including put me in the. Put me in that group. Tom Brady was not the player in the pros that he was in college.

[Colin Cowherd]

Damn.

[Jonas Knox]

Just wasn't. No, he wasn't. That's not a, that's not a knock. Tom was, was good in, in college, could play some ball, but he was not the animal that he was in the league that he was in college. So I think people would push back and say, sure was Tom Brady that went to. To Tampa Bay and did what he did and accomplished what he accomplished, but he had to learn that from somebody. He had to learn it from somewhere. And all those years together, that standard, that accountability, you know, they. They make. Make mention of the fact that how. How Belichick treated Brady so that he could set a tone with the rest of the players in the locker room. So he would go at him the same exact way he would go at any other player. There was a development that had to take place, a Tom Brady to become the player. And a lot of it's personal 100%. But there still could be the idea that without Bill Belichick, and I think a lot of people subscribe to that, without Bill Belichick, Tom Brady does not become the Tom Brady that he is today. Why would I want to deal with that debate? I don't want to deal with that debate if I'm Tom Brady. I dealt with that already ready. And even if I follow, I don't.

[Brady Quinn]

Know how that applies.

[Jonas Knox]

I just don't know how does that apply.

[Brady Quinn]

He's not playing anymore.

[Jonas Knox]

That could create confusion within the organization, if you ask me, because checks the head coach.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, it's not like there's like, again, that debate's not there anymore. They're not a player coach.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

So what are you doing?

[Jonas Knox]

It's an owner coach. And now you're talking about philosophies of how you're going to draft, how the organization is ran. There's a lot of different things that come into play emotionally.

[Brady Quinn]

I would say this. Do you think that Tom Brady, who's a byproduct of all that time and all those years in New England isn't going to run that very similar to everything he did.

[Jonas Knox]

Again, I think sometimes, sometimes the thing that you learned the best, the person you learned the best from, sometimes you outgrow that person.

[Brady Quinn]

That's, again, what else does he know? Is he gonna say Bruce Arians and the Glazer family and the way the Bucks ran things during his three years there?

[Jonas Knox]

All I'm saying is, is that what takes place between them is what takes place between them, and they probably have a firm way of dealing with how one another treats the other, how one another is. But I don't necessarily think that that would be the collective feeling of everybody in that building. And, and while Tom Brady may not look at it that way, I just do not think that with the personality that, that Bill Belichick showed being in New England, if he's going to be the guy that comes in and builds that program the way that he built it, to win where he was at before or where he's going to do it now, you have to be in a place where you're able to be who you are. And I just, again, Atlanta serves as a great example. It serves as a great example. Now you throw in Tom Brady to the equation. I think it ups the stakes. There's no way it doesn't up the stakes.

[Brady Quinn]

I, I just, I don't really understand, like, the correlation of where you're going.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, I think the correlation is you're looking at a situation where can Tom Brady be the decision maker that he needs to be?

[Brady Quinn]

He is the decision maker. He's, he's, he's a limited partner. Mark Davis is leaning on him. He's probably the future majority owner. Like, there's no disputing that. It doesn't matter if Bill Belichick's the head coach or not.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, but it doesn't mean that Bill Belichick has to subscribe to that.

[Colin Cowherd]

But, but if there's what it is.

[Jonas Knox]

He'S going to get interviewed.

[Brady Quinn]

It doesn't matter. This is all like, hypothetical, like.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, that's the whole conversation. Q. We're having a hypothetical conversation. That's. That's what this is. What else is it? It's a hypothetical conversation.

[Brady Quinn]

We're not talking hypotheticals. We're talking legitimacy. Well, you might be, but if you finish for a second, like, they, they decided to go with Pete Carroll instead of Bill Belichick. So we're not talking about a hypothetical. We're talking about a decision that was made and why that was made.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, I'm giving you.

[Brady Quinn]

You're saying that you think that it's because of somehow his legacy as a player and coach would factor into that. Like, I just, I don't get how that stole legacy.

[Jonas Knox]

I think his reputation, I think.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay, okay. The news reputation, if how his reputation would factor in being that they were a player, coach, I just don't really see how that that matches up. I mean, he went up against.

[Jonas Knox]

You don't have to see. I'm giving you the reasoning that I see. You don't have to see it. I'm just giving you the reason that I see.

[Brady Quinn]

But basically Jonas hasn't got in on it. I mean, let's let Jonas talk.

[Jonas Knox]

Go ahead. Jonas asked the question.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, I believe that this is the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up next, going to tell you why, why the all time great has a different approach to the biggest game of the season in the NFL right here at fsr.

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[Jonas Knox]

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ryan, music time.

[Ryan Music]

Oh, yes. Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, Lavar. Good morning, guys. Let's get things started here. The Chiefs getting ready for their fifth super bowl appearance in six years. So familiar territory for them, much like what we saw for the Patriots for about two decades or so. Well, yesterday on the Herd, Colin talked to the Tom Brady about utilizing extra time to prepare for the super bowl. And, well, he shared this.

[J]

I like the extra time a lot because it gave me extra time to do all the prep that I needed to do. One of my best kind of memories from the Super Bowl 2014, we're playing the Legion of Boom. It's Friday night before the Super Bowl. We've of course had like 11 or 12 days to prepare and it's probably like 9:00 and I, I Wasn't feeling great about the red area package we had. And I went in and Josh McDaniels is in the staff room. And I said, hey, we got to go through the red area. I said, it's just too hard down there. They play too much zone. So we install three plays on Friday night. After two weeks of preparation, all the practice is done. And one of the touchdowns is to JoJo Lafel, the first one in the game, and the second one is to Danny Amendola, Luck later in that game. And we hadn't practiced them at all for 11 days.

[Brady Quinn]

And it was just.

[J]

I like to use every minute of prep going up into those games because they're the hardest ones to win.

[Ryan Music]

So there you go, putting in new plays just days before the super bowl without any practice.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sounds like me getting ready for a show.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, yeah, do it, Tom.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, it's about. It's about how it goes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Ryan Music]

It feels like in circumstances like that, you tend to lean towards Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes with extra time, time to prepare.

[Brady Quinn]

Now, probably, I think the. His record coming off buys would. Would showcase that a bit. But the one thing I just say about the NFL is there are times where guys are drawing up plays on the sidelines, making adjustments on things that you talked about in training camp nine weeks ago.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sure.

[Brady Quinn]

So as. As impressive as that is, you know, you're still talking about adjustments that are made in real time and maybe stuff that wasn't practiced at all or at least hadn't been for months, even though they've been playing. So that's not that uncommon. I'm more impressed with this recall and talking about that moment.

[Jonas Knox]

I agree it sound a little over embellished, but, you know, I'm a former player.

[Colin Cowherd]

Damn.

[Jonas Knox]

Go figure.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why do you hate Tom Brady so much?

[Jonas Knox]

I love Tom Brady. You know that. I love him to death. I don't seem to live over embellished like, oh, you know, let me just tell you, my prep. That was the reason why, you know, the two of those guys scored in those plays.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, first you. You air them out for being a mediocre quarterback in college, and then you question whether or not he can get over the past and hire Bill Belichick. I'm sick of this crap.

[Jonas Knox]

Jeez. Okay. You know, to all the people out there listening, hopefully I'm being accurate when I say Jonas is being sarcastic.

[Colin Cowherd]

What do you mean?

[Jonas Knox]

And hopefully? I mean, maybe you might be serious. I would hope that you're not being serious.

[Colin Cowherd]

Damn.

[Ryan Music]

All right. Some other news out of the AFC North. North. Bengals with some huge decisions to make this offseason regarding their two star receivers in Jamar Chase. T. Higgins and Ed Drescher. Tre Hendrickson. Well, Joe Burrow, their quarterback, he's chimed in. Here's what he had to say about Jamar and his teammates. Quote, I don't know what more he could show or what more he could prove for himself. We have several guys like that who have stepped up for us and deserve to be paid. They deserve to be paid what they're worth. Obviously, talking about Jamar Chase there, who won the NFL's receiving Triple Crown, leading the league in receptions, yards and touchdowns. Bengals, big decisions in the very near future.

[Jonas Knox]

Seems like it would have sounded better if he said they. They will get paid.

[Colin Cowherd]

Meanwhile. Meanwhile. Meanwhile, the Bengals are returning items to the 99 cent store. Yeah, they're too busy trying to pay their bills.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, the thing is, Joe Burrow knows those guys getting paid is probably good for him for a couple of reasons. One, he gets his receiver. Keeps him happy. You know, we saw Jamar Chase hold out for his final year of eligibility in college football, so there's no doubt he would do that in the NFL as well. He's got a business mindset. Always as happy.

[Jonas Knox]

He wasn't practicing this training camp, Correct? Yeah, yeah, he did.

[Ryan Music]

He did. He did more of. I mean, he held out, but he also did more of like a hold in where.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, he was there. He was just in street clothes.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, correct, correct. I'm saying he could fly out, he can miss time. But again, the reality is, it's good for Burrow. He gets his number one receiver back. But also, they're gonna have to come back to him to create cap space. That means more guarantees. Probably, Sonny, but it's more cash for him in the short term.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, music. You seem really interested in this Bengals topic. What is it? Listen, you know, something.

[Ryan Music]

Gotta, gotta, gotta just declare the rooting interests, all right?

[Colin Cowherd]

You can keep two of the three. Who you keeping? Hendrickson, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins.

[Ryan Music]

Hey, you gotta go. I'd probably go. Hendrickson and Jamar Chase.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's right. Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, and that's what's probably going to happen. Even though Hendrickson could be a casualty, too. Dang.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, damn. Why does it gotta be him?

[Jonas Knox]

Why can't it just be all three of them, huh? Why can't you just bring them all? All three of them back?

[Colin Cowherd]

Spangles. Football, baby.

[Ryan Music]

That's right.

[Jonas Knox]

Bang, bang.

[Ryan Music]

Most important thing in the AFC north right now.

[Jonas Knox]

What Those two. Those three.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Arturo Castro]

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[Colin Cowherd]

I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Katie Couric]

Hey, everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next Question. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also gonna have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlamagne. Tha God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Colin Cowherd]

What's up, everybody?

[Brady Quinn]

Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast.

[Jonas Knox]

It's NHL Unscripted with Virgin Demers, Jason Demers here. And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.

[Colin Cowherd]

Hey, I got a lot to say here, too, okay?

[Brady Quinn]

Each week we'll get together, chat about.

[Bobby Bones]

The sport that we love.

[Jonas Knox]

Tons of guests are going to join in, too. But we're not just going to be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies. We're talking tv, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on le table.

[Ryan Music]

Listen to NHL Unscripted with Vir and.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Ryan Music]

Wherever you get your podcasts.