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We are in New Orleans, Orleans, and this is the hurdle. We have a great show and we're going to be here in New Orleans for a couple of days and we're going to make it and we're going to make it count. J. Mac Now, I was going to leave with the Lakers, who made another move last night, but the last time I did a show that led with the Lakers, things got really fuzzy really fast. So I'm going to make that the second story. I'm a little superstitious on that. What I want to leave with is this. I thought about this last night. What is this super bowl going to look like? And you know what I think it is? And I think it's a pretty good comp. This is going to be the New England Seahawks Super Bowl. Remember that the Seahawks, like the Eagles, had the stacked roster. In fact, when people talk about Philadelphia's roster, they say it's the best since Seattle. You talk to Tom Brady about that Seahawk roster. I've talked to him on this show and he's like, there were no weaknesses. Everybody was great. Safeties, corners, edge, rushers, defensive tackles. There were no weaknesses, there were no flaws. That's Philadelphia. But the quarterback, Russell Wilson, Jalen Hurts, little, small, mobile. Is he an all timer? No. New England is Kansas City iconic coach, maybe the greatest quarterback of all time. Second best roster, but they always win close games. Anytime a game is close, anytime it could go either way. Anytime it's a big third down. It was Brady and the Patriots. It's Mahomes in Kansas City to win that game. And I, and I want to talk about this because I think this is going to be a chess match and I think one of the chess matches is going to be between Mahomes and Vic Fangio, the defensive coordinator for Philadelphia, who by the way, Mahomes is 8 and oh against every quarterback in the league struggles with Vic Fangio, except maybe Josh Allen and except maybe Patrick Mahomes. And I do think we have to consider this. And I don't think this is Hyperbolic. If Patrick Mahomes wins and the first team, now the packers did it, but the first team in what we consider modern football to win three in a row. He is the NFL's MJ. And I think there are real similarities. MJ, 6 for 6 in the finals, six MVPs. But we saw his struggles and I'll get to that in a second. Mahomes is almost relentless like mj. He didn't look great in the regular season. Michael had off nights, but they both kind of shift gears. And what I've always noticed about Mahomes, much like Michael, they're not burdened with pressure. It's almost like they get bored in the regular season. And Michael would put his arms around these moments like, okay, this stuff counts. It was Tiger in his prime. Oh, we're finally to Sunday final nine holes. That's Mahomes. The way he shrinks. Lamar Jackson, an all time great. The way he shrinks. Josh Allen, maybe the most physically gifted quarterback since Marino or Elway, makes me think Mahomes sometimes like MJ is bored with a regular season. He's that gifted. And when I watched MJ and I remember this well, sitting on a couch watching the Suns Bulls final and Barkley was amazing, but he made Barkley look okay. And MJ wasn't the best shooter, he wasn't the biggest player, he wasn't the strongest player, he wasn't the best ball handler. None of that stuff, none of it with Michael. But he was 6 foot 6 of relentless. Mahomes isn't as big as Alan. He doesn't move like Mar Jackson, he doesn't have the best arm, although he throws kind of quirky sidearm. But there's just something about him. There's an it. And it's why, remember now, Michael was the number one pick. Mahomes wasn't the number one pick. That was LeBron. LeBron was on the COVID of Sports Illustrated at 16. LeBron was the prodigy. LeBron was the overwhelming number one pick. But that's not the way it was with Michael and Mahomes. Mahomes had a losing record in the Big 12. There's one year he led the conference in interceptions. I saw him play one college game that I remember. He was really skinny, wild. It was a shootout, like all Big 12 games. And I thought, that doesn't translate to the NFL. He's out of control. And people forget this about MJ. It's as if the archives of MJ losing have been lost. They went Bermuda Triangle. Where did they Go. Nobody knows Michael Jordan won as a freshman. You saw the movie Air. He hits the big shot, remember that? Do you realize that Michael stayed in college for two more years, didn't win a title. In fact, there is a 10 year gap. If you ever want to come down to the Bourbon street and win a free cocktail and oysters, bet people this. From his title as A freshman at UNC to his first NBA championship, Michael Jordan had a Grand Canyon size 10 year gap before he won a title. And it's like there's no footage of it. It's like the tape disappeared. So I watched Michael get beat up by the Celtics in the Pistons. I watched Mahomes be wild, lead the Big 12 interceptions. And because of that, they're not prodigies. They weren't on the COVID they weren't Bryce Harper, they weren't Tiger Woods. Because of that, I've watched them stumble, get beaten up, get tackled by the Pistons and the Celtics get rolled by Oklahoma. And I think it makes them incredibly likable. But I do think this is going to look like New England. Brady with a little less talent around him though, good with an iconic coach against the stacked roster and a very good coach, Pete Carroll and a very good quarterback in his prime, Russell Wilson. And my, my guess is it ends the same way with the iconic all time quarterback on one play late winning the game. And here's Mahomes talking about the matchup with Vic Fangio. Every time I've played coach Fangio there's been different change ups and different things he's thrown at us. And I think that's what makes him so great, is he's not going to just do exactly what you saw the last time. And so I'm sure there'll be blitzes in the game. I'm sure there'll be times they play coverage. It's going to be a chess match and you want to go up against the best. And he's one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL and it'll be a great challenge for us as an offense and as a football team. Okay, now I'll talk Lakers. Take a deep breath. I'll be fine. So the Lakers made a couple of moves, but they made another one last night to get a really talented kid that I didn't watch him in the NBA, just highlights. But I saw him at Duke, named Mark Williams, big, athletic shot blocker, more defense than offense, has a nice little soft touch around the rim. That's what the Lakers needed. That's what The Lakers acquired, 23 years old, great future. And the warriors got Jimmy Butler. Get to that in a second. But I don't know if the Laker or Warrior moves make them championship teams. Feels more possible with the Lakers, but the new CBA in 2023 put up this wall of fear and a lot of teams didn't want to make moves. But who did Last year the Celtics drew Holiday and Porzingis and the Mavs with Gafford and they went out and got PJ Washington and who ended up in the Finals, the Mavs and the Celtics. So this year, trading deadline, if you're not making moves, you feel like you're not. You're not progressive, you're not competitive, you're asleep at the wheel. I mean, Rob Polinka, let's be honest about this, got himself a five year new deal getting Luca without giving up Austin Reeves or a second number one pick and getting Mark Williams and again, not giving up Austin Reaves. And I don't know long term what Austin Reeves is going to provide with Luca and LeBron James, but I know this. Dallas was 29 and 23 last year at the trading deadline and then went 219 and ended up in the Finals. So everybody was really, really, with a new cba, a little self conscious, a little rigid, a little fearful on making big moves. Mav. Celtics did and were rewarded. And I think the Lakers and the warriors did and will be rewarded. I think between Luka, Austin Reaves, a rim protector, the Lakers and Luka, I think, I think they went from old to young, athletic. They're still not great as a perimeter defensive team. They probably need another three point shooter. But the Lakers have literally changed the feel and the reality of their roster. Old to young and more dynamic. And that's a real thing in Los Angeles. Now in terms of Jimmy Butler to the Warriors, I said this, I think a month ago on the air, I said they got to make a move. If Steph's not on the floor, they're boring. And the one thing with the warriors, you didn't have to love them. They were never boring. And it's like he needs a number two star and he got it. And yes, they gave up Andrew Wiggins. They've been looking to move him for years. Yeah, they move. But you know what? They keep coming up. They got Draymond. It's Steph. It's Jimmy Butler. Now. I don't know if this takes him to a new level, but the NBA's television ratings for the last three years have had a Interesting problem. And this solves the interesting problem for the warriors and the Lakers, who, by the way, every time they play on Christmas, every time Steph and LeBron play, it's the highest rated game in the regular season, and it was this year so far, and now they both got more interesting. And whereas, you know, the NBA is doing a lot of things right, but it's getting more European. It's less reliant on familiar college basketball players. So it does matter where the players play in la, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, San Francisco, it matters. That's why baseball ratings. Dodgers, great. Yankees, great. Mets, interesting. Bryce Harper, Phillies, good. In the NFL, it doesn't matter. Buffalo could face Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl. You get a number. Baseball in the NBA, there can be interesting problems. So you need the right stars to end up in the right places. So I look at this. I am much more interested in the NBA today than I was three days ago. That's all I know. I cannot wait to watch Jimmy Butler, Stephen Draymond and luka. Mark Williams, LeBron, Austin, Reaves, I don't know. That feels like a team that can get to the Finals. Mark Williams is one of those guys. He's young, he's had injuries, but when he's on the floor and I saw him at Duke, not a lot of NBA knowledge, but I saw him at Duke and he is a force. He is an athletic force. So, J. Mac, here we are. Matt Hasselbeck's going to be on set in 20 minutes. Drew Brees, Mark Sanchez. I will do what I always do for the biggest games of the year. I take out my yellow pad and I rate all the players, Chiefs and Eagles. Who's got the more play? Generally, whoever's got the more good players wins. I will tell you, it is tough. There are. There are 16 guys. I'll just tell you right now. Travis Kelsey didn't make it. That's not that hard of a take. Come on. He's not top 10 in this game. 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There's an old saying in sports. The NBA thinks of it. Baseball makes the most money from it and football gets it right. They tweak, they change, they alter. Even during games, during the playoffs, they'll change a rule to make it better for the fans. You cannot complain. Compare Brady and Patrick Mahomes. You can't compare them. I mean, Brady had a defensive conservative coach who could not draft wide receivers. Mahomes has the greatest offensive coach, maybe next to Bill Walsh ever. And he has a surplus of almost everything. Now they had to get rid of one wide receiver, but they always find talent. They always find creative play design. They're different players in different eras. You go back to when Brady broke into the league, what you could do to wide receivers, jamming them, what you could do to quarterbacks, how you could hit people upstairs. None of that's allowed. That gets you thrown out of games. Now, that is not a knock at Mahomes. It is the reality of a sport that is constantly fluctuating and constantly changing. It's different. Bob Gibson, the great St. Louis Cardinal pitcher, he would get people out if he was pitching today. So it's Andy Koufax, it's pitcher against hitter. You can make changes to the rules. That goofy defensive shift that was implemented, then retracted and some stuff changes, like analytics, where now ground balls are trouble, strikeouts are okay. They talk, launch angle and stuff nobody really outside of baseball cares about. Football is just changing all the time. Overtime rules, regulation rules. The kickoff is different, the pat is different. And you can't do nearly what you could do as a defender that you could do 20 years ago when Tom Brady broke into this league. Stylistically, there are two different players. Mahomes and Brady, the coaching is different. And I think to me all the great quarterbacks in my life, you can go to Bradshaw, to Stabler, to Aikman, to Marino, to Elway, to Mahomes, to Brady, like all of them, I feel like the all time greats have two things in common. Franchise stability. Like you kind of had the same people in the building mostly for a long time and he had a really strong coach. It could be Chuck Noel, it could be a Madden, a Belichick and Andy Reid, Shula Shanahan, that's it. A strong coach who in his era is among the top two or three, and stability in the organization. So when comparing Brady and Mahomes, it's, it's a little bit like comparing currency to cryptocurrency. Like I know you can pay for stuff with both, but one I don't know what to do with and the other I know exactly what to do with. And Mahomes is just entering his prime. I don't know what it's going to become. And I think, I mean the goat talk to me, are we just filling content, are we filling sections, are we filling space? It's like in college football when a writer's in October, early October, are talking Heisman talk about the games. Nobody cares about an award that's regional at best. Here's Mahomes on the go talk. I'm trying to be the greatest Patrick Mahomes that I can be. I mean that's obviously a goal of anyone's, is to be the greatest of their profession. But in order to do that you have to be the greatest that you can be every single day. And if that's on the field and the work ethic I put in or off the field, and the father and the husband that I am, I'm gonna try to be the greatest in that way. And whenever I'm done with football, if I leave everything out there the way that I feel like I have so far as far as effort and mentality, I'll be happy with the results. And I'll let others talk about who the greatest is of whatever profession that is. All right, don't forget, 35 minutes from now, I'm going to give you the top 10 players. I do this for every championship, the biggest games of the year. I'll give you who I think are the 10 best players in order. Yeah, Mahomes is probably number one. And here's J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Probably Number one. All right, super bowl is up. Eagles hoping to kind of turn the tables after that Super Bowl 57 loss, Jalen hurts was asked about how that defeat impacted him. Here's what he had to say. I learned so much. You know, it's the same as any other game. And you know, I think the moments are the moments. But ultimately, you know, every game has his lessons. Good battle and different and so just been able to become wiser, grow and mature and take all these lessons in for the, for the next season and the next game. So Hertz was spectacular in the Last Super Bowl. 304 yards passing, 70 on the ground, four touchdowns. He did have a fumble in the pocket that Bolton scooped up and scored on. Yeah, that kind of got the Chiefs reinvigorated. What's your, what's your vibe on Hertz, who's had an up and down season? Remember, they kind of reined him in early. There are splits that are really interesting. When he has time to throw, he is spectacular. When he's pressured, he is below average, like near the bottom of the league. So it's pretty clear what the game plan is for Kansas City. Spags in the second, third and fourth quarters. Kansas City is a top five pressurizing team. I think you're going to see a lot of blitzes, a lot of pressure. I think what Kansas City doesn't want to happen is Philadelphia's dominant O line in run game puts Patrick Mahomes on the sideline as a spectator for three and a half hours. So I think Spags is going to take big risks and say, you know what, Jalen beat us over the top. We're going to put Trent McDuffie on A.J. brown. We feel good about it, beat us in big plays. What we're not going to let you do is have nine minute drives and we get out of rhythm offensively and we can't stop you defensively. Interesting. You know, I actually have a Hertz ticket to win MVP of the super bowl simply because of that strategy. I think he's going to be blitzed and I think Hertz is going to deliver. I believe in him. I know he's had his ups and downs. I don't think this chief's defense is as good as everybody's making it out to be calm. They cannot stop the run. Well, they're, they're, they're not as good as last year. Yeah. And again, once you pay a quarterback what Mahomes makes, you have to make choices. Remember, they got rid of Snead. Yep. But I. But I will say this Spags is defense. Like Mahomes in big games, they tend to ratchet it up a little bit. He's a little more exotic with his blitzes. They take more chances. I mean, I don't know what Philadelphia's game plan is, but I feel like Kansas City has a way to win and that is to. To make Jalen hurts uncomfortable. Yeah, you can't blitz Mahomes, so that doesn't work with him. What you want to do. And Jalen Carter is sick and he's not going to be at 100% potentially. Hopefully he doesn't have what you had. Well, yeah, would not be good. He's a little stronger if he does get it. But I think pressurizing Mahomes only works if it comes on a four man rush. If you start adding extra people, it's like Brady and his product. They'll just. He'll eat you alive. So you can blitz. Hurts and he regresses. You can't do that with Mahomes. It's a different level player. All right, let's move on to another quarterback who you like. That's Justin Herbert. Phenomenal regular season. Got his team to the playoffs, but he was not spectacular. Actually, he was terrible in the loss to Houston. Had four interceptions, barely threw any all season, but then imploded in the playoff game. Herbert's now 02 in the postseason. And of course, you got meatballs all over the Internet criticizing him. Here's Derwin James clapping back at the haters. Can we please stop trying number 10, man, y'all stop disrespecting him, bro. I promise you. Like, I can't wait for y'all to see, man, like this next season when I know we're gonna do what we do for y'all, really get to see the real 10. Man. I know how hard he works, and I wouldn't rather have no other quarterback. Bro, you played against him. You know how good of a player he is. Kind of with German James here, right? Yeah, I think. I think Justin Herbert has a little bit of a Lamar Jackson issue. Is we know you're super talented. We know you're worth a lot of money. We know you're a top seven eight guy. We know you're a franchise quarterback. But this is not baseball where stats are king and it's not basketball where aesthetics and optics matter. Right, Carmelo? You don't hold it against him. He didn't win a lot, but he was a great scorer. This is pro football. But if you don't win in January, then we look at you differently. I mean, Dan Marino maybe the most talented quarterback ever. I mean, seriously, that good. Dan Marino went to a Super bowl in year two, never got back. And it's absolutely held against him. If John Elway at the very end of his career didn't win Super Bowls. I mean, I grew up with Elway. He was getting bullied, blasted in playoff games. He was getting blasted in Super Bowls before Terrell Davis. So it does matter in this sport. I mean, Barry Bonds did not have a lot of postseason success. It doesn't matter. We talk about some steroids, but we don't. Ken Griffey, he's still the natural, but football is different. You have to win in January. Yeah, this whole remember Peyton Manning struggled his first, I believe, four years in the league, couldn't win a playoff game. Can you imagine what social media would have done to Peyton Manning, who's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time? Final story. Colin is the Packers. This is a little spicy. They brought in Josh Jacobs to give Jordan Love a weapon in the run game. And Jacobs was awesome. 1300 yards, 15 touchdowns. Jacobs, though, is now offering a request for the packers front office. Obviously we got a really young group of receivers. All can be really, really, really special. But I think personally we need the guy that's proven to be a number one already. So somebody that's going we know it's going to be a little bit more consistent that maybe play for if you come at the right price. He come at the right price. Tell him to slide. I don't know about completely, absolutely disagree. Yeah, I'm with you. I, I, I. This is players. Players love wide receivers because they're fun, they're athletic, they're the most interesting players on the field. Personality wise. There's an argument Kansas City is better without Tyreek Hill. Buffalo's better without Stefan Diggs. Dak Prescott got better without DEZ Bryant. And my take is the la you you do not. What you need is some weapon. It can be Saquon Barkley, it can be Travis Kelsey Gronk. You need a dependable weapon and it can be anything. It can be Christian McCaffrey. I think Saquon Barkley is the weapon. I mean, A.J. brown is reading on the sidelines like he's Devontae Smith has disappeared. I think wide receivers have a purpose. But these games late and once again running backs, everybody said it was going away. Wide receivers as the weather gets cold and all these northern teams that play outdoors do not have the post season value of Josh Jacobs to the Packers. Josh Jacobs actually changed Green Bay more this year. Derrick Henry to the Ravens changed them more than Isaiah Flowers would do. So this is how players view it, but that's why players are not GMs. I don't think. I think the Green Bay receivers are more than adequate. They got Dobbs, Reed, Watson, Wicks. A good group. It's one of the deepest groups in the league. Jacobs has been in Green Bay for a year. How's this going to go over in the locker room? Dude, you just showed up. I know you're renting a house we bought. We've been here. We were drafted by the team. This is not good news. Yeah, yeah, totally disagree with that. Take J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. In fact, let me tell you what Green Bay needs. So because the desean Watson situation in Cleveland such a mess and because ownership's been chaotic, Miles Garrett is now available on the market. Myles Garrett's like, I don't want to be a Cleveland Brown. And by the way, they had some success with him, just not last year. So Miles Garrett is a once. The Cleveland Browns will never draft another pass rusher as good as Miles Garrett and the Giants will never have another lt. And that's just the reality of it. Miles Garrett to me is one of six, maybe five defensive players in the league. Max Crosby is probably one that I would pay for. Chris Jones of Kansas City is one. I think Jalen Carter is probably one. I would just open the checkbook. I don't care what he costs. There are two teams that need to go make aggressive runs at Miles Garrett. The Buffalo Bills and the Green Bay Packers. So let's think about Buffalo with a good defense and Sean McDermott. I've watched this thing over and over with Mahomes. You can't stop him. He's dropping 35 plus. It doesn't work. You have a defensive coach, Josh Allen and defensive culture. You can't stop Mahomes. You're not going to find him in the draft. There's nobody sniffing Myles Garrett in this draft. There's nobody close to his gun. There's about six, six to eight first round players that scouts think are really, really elite. It is a very watered down, mostly second and third and fourth round picks. Go get him. Green Bay. You're facing the best offensive line arguably in football in Detroit. And if you get past them, the next great offensive line is Philadelphia. The only way to beat A Philadelphia or Detroit with those old lines, if you're Green Bay, because Jordan Love is going to make mistakes, is an unblockable rush in. And so I look at Buffalo and I look at Green Bay guys, I'm look at what you're surrounded by. You're not beaten Mahomes unless you buy a disruptor. And you're not getting through Detroit and Philadelphia's old lines with Green Bay's current pass rush. And because Buffalo and Green Bay are the two smallest markets, you know, the media is more supportive. That doesn't mean it doesn't have any bite. But the Buffalo media and the Green Bay media, it's a little bit like New Orleans. They're kind of on your side a little bit. If the New York Giants are, the jets, for instance, New York teams with an angry, loud New York media, if they were this far from the super bowl, radio stations, newspapers, the media and fans in New York would be demanding, you get Miles Garrett. But Green Bay and Buffalo, and I've been reading some of the local articles there on the Miles Garrett thing. It's like, well, it'd be a pretty decent fit. No, no, no. You're not beating Mahomes. You can't stop Mahomes. Von Miller's getting older. Like, it's, it's over. You're not beating Mahomes and Green Bay. You got to take a big swing on this because Jordan Love is good, but he can be reckless. You're going to be in close games with Detroit, Philadelphia, the improving Rams, the Niners are still around. Who knows what Washington is. So to me, you get 1 miles Garrett. In a franchise history, he is an outcome changer. And there's maybe six guys in pro football today. And there's a lot of great players. There's maybe six, two of them. Jared versus Jalen Carter. I'm not there yet, but I think I'm close that I would pay for Max Crosby's one. Whatever, give me the checkbook. But like Miles Garrett, there are two teams, Buffalo and Green Bay. You really got to think long and hard about your future. Do you want to change outcomes? Listen, when you had Favre and Rogers, you got one super bowl, you're not a free agent hub. Like players don't go and think Buffalo and Green Bay, on average, not sexy markets. You gotta make it happen. And a guy like Myles Garrett may never show up in the market for the next five years. Guys like him just don't show up on the market teams. Don't let him go. Go get him. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. 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Los Angeles made the move to get Luca and within a day everybody's like, so what? You got to go get a center or you're not going to win any games. If he goes to if Luca ended up in Charlotte or maybe here in New Orleans or 90% of the markets in the NBA, they're satisfied with that. In Los Angeles, the Dodgers almost draw 5 million. You have two NFL teams. You have great Mediterranean weather. It's why USC had to get Lincoln, Riley, ucla, Chip Kelly, Jim Harbaugh of the Chargers. You have to make moves. San Francisco. There's too many things to do. You've got to get Jimmy Butler, that's why the warriors, they went after KD again. Katie's like not interested. They went after Jimmy Butler. Milwaukee, we've been sitting there. Milwaukee made a move. They let Chris Middleton go, which they should have two years ago, and went and got Kyle Kuzma. But we've been waiting for that for two years. It's like, guys, let's go. But it's Milwaukee. Once the packers season ends, what's the competition? They're winning, they're pretty good. So you know, like, like, like Pete Alonso just re signed with the Mets. It was going to be three years, it ended up being two. But there's, I mean in New York in the summer, some people are off to the beach. The Hamptons, they're traveling, they got the Yankees, they get. There's just a lot to do and you are forced to make moves. So it's the reality of being in these distracted, big aggressive markets. Rob Pelinka, it was just interesting. I'm talking to Laker fans and they love Luka, but a day later they're like, it doesn't mean anything if you don't get a center. Okay, 90% of NBA cities would be like, we've got Luka, we hit the powerball. Let's wait and build next year. It's not the way it works. And here's Rob Pelinka, Luka Doncic joining forces with the Los Angeles Lakers is a seismic event in NBA history. And the reason I say that is because we have a 25 year old global superstar that's going to get on the stage of the most popular and influential basketball brand on the globe. And I think when those two powerful forces come together, it brings basketball joy to the world. But they were a bad defensive team as he was sitting there on stage. And now this morning, Mark Williams, Duke Charlotte athletic shot blocker, rebounder. Now people in Los Angeles are like good. It's almost like the Dodgers already had Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts. Why get Ohtani? Because in the summer people are going and traveling and beach and mountains. Why not? If you can fund it, why not? And also, let's be honest, like a big company like Meta Oracle, Google can make a mistake and it doesn't bankrupt them. They make all sorts of the Google glasses. You know, Meta's had all sorts of stumbles that eyewear stuff they were going to do. It's in these big markets you are so capitalized, you have so much money that you can make mistakes and you're okay. It doesn't Penalize you forever. And I mean, LeBron, Austin Reaves and Anthony Davis would have been absolutely okay for almost every franchise. I mean, go look at Boston, another city with a broad things to do in the summer. Boston was winning a lot of games with Jason Tatum, with Marcus Smart and with Jaylen Brown, they were winning. I mean they were for on about a four year run. They were like the team we thought was going to win it. And that wasn't good enough in Boston. That wasn't good enough because the Patriots has had the standard. It's not good enough. You got to take a big swing. So they go get poor Zingis and Jrue Holiday and they move Marcus Smart and they win. That's what Boston demands. So before you yell everybody's out to see the Celtics win or the Lakers win or the warriors or no, those cities have to make moves because there's so much in market competition. So I was reading a story this morning about Kansas City had a very good 2022 draft. They got George Carloftis, Brian Cook, Leo Chanel, Trent McDuffie's a star at corner Isaiah Pacheco in the seventh round. And I mean, Carloftis was such a good pick at 30th that only one other player in that first round has had more sacks. The number one pick, Aiden Hutchinson of Detroit. So they had a great draft. And if you go to Philadelphia and you look at the Eagles last two drafts, Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, who took a while to get it right, Quinn Martin, Mitchell, Cooper, DeJean, two drafts, they went from one of the oldest teams in the league last year, six oldest, to third youngest team in the league this year, Philadelphia. So unlike baseball, where you can buy championships or at least buy relevance and wins, or you know, in the NBA where there's a kind of a reality that if you get one or two players foundationally, you'll be viable. And also in the NBA, draft picks are a little like croutons in your salad. They're kind of in the way, you know they're there. You have one or two, but they don't really matter. You can give them away. In the NFL, this thing is still built on the draft. Free agency in the NFL is kind of her suckers. Most of the good teams wait three or four days in to get value. You start looking at the Eagles and you start looking at the Rams, who we were told were on a rebuild two years ago and started winning playoff games. It's all foundational, it's all draft. And when I started this business Years ago I had a friend, he goes, I don't even like the draft, but he goes, you, he goes, you talk about it so much that now I'm kind of interested. And I said, it matter. It doesn't matter. In the NBA, I mean, Lakers are giving away draft picks and there's not a single person in LA that goes, I can't believe you gave away that conditional first round pick. Nobody cares. They don't care. And in baseball, I mean, the Pirates are the Yankees farm system. Nobody cares. In the NFL, doesn't matter your market size. Go look at the Chiefs 2022 draft as they had to pay my homes big money. Go look at the Eagles. They're paying. Jalen hurt. How are the Eagles able to pay A.J. brown, Saquon Barkley, Jalen hurts. How are they able to pay all these guys? Darius Slay? Because they had back to back draft classes where they got stars at virtually every unit. And I think that's what separates it. It's one of my mantras has always been in the NFL. It all starts upstairs. Like, I had a general manager in the NFL was talking about Buffalo after they lost to Kansas City, and I had a discussion with him about a week and a half ago and he said, you know, the truth is Kansas City has a much better roster than Buffalo. He goes, you think Josh Allen elevates people? He goes, james Cook is great. Josh Allen's great. They got a couple of defensive players we like. One the corner who had the concussion stuff. He goes, kansas City's got just better players. He goes, the difference between the Bills upstairs and the Chiefs upstairs is greater than people think. Josh Allen just fools you into believing Buffalo should beat him. But when you watch that game, who made all the big plays? It was the Kansas City guys. I mean, in fact, that was one of the problems I had with Buffalo. They didn't give James Cook the ball. Last nine minutes of the game, it's like, dude, it's your second best player on the team. That's the second best player you got. He's probably the eighth best player on Kansas City or seventh. So J. Mac, here we go. I know J. Mac gets fired up because anytime I ever offer slight criticism to the NBA, mister, get a bucket here from the perimeter. Never seen a jumper he didn't like. Freaks out. But I will say this, I don't want to overreact, but when the Lakers got Luca, I thought, well, that's pretty, that's pretty interesting. I'm not sure it works when they actually got the much lesser player. Today I went, okay, like we always talk about this in the NFL. Quarterback, left tackle, weapon, pass rusher, smart head coach. Like, there's. There's boxes you got to check in the NBA as it's gotten bigger over the last five years. If you don't have an athletic big, that's why deandre Ayton keeps getting paid. You don't even have to be. You don't have to fill out all the boxes. If you're long, if you're athletic that you can match up, like with Wemby in the league now, the next four years, you got to figure out how to defend that or at least make it difficult. So I think it's interesting that Luka is the future, but if you don't get Mark Williams, they're really not a viable championship team in the West. As excited as you are for Mark Williams, should we get a hurricane and pour some out for Dalton Connect, everybody's favorite player. I mean, we lost all the Connect in the trade. Well, that's a big loss, but what does it tell you about the NBA? So everybody liked Dalton Connect, and I thought he was going to be a winner in all this because I thought Austin Reaves was the odd man out because He, Luka and LeBron need the ball. So I thought Austin Reaves, odd man out. Dalton Connect kind of can create space, get him off in a wing. But in the end, look how easily the Lakers move off Dalton Connect, because, you know, they were called. You know, both the Mavericks and Carolina wanted Austin Reaves. He's averaging like 18 points a game. And he's a playmaker. He gets to the line. He's all hustle and effort. Everybody wanted Austin Reaves. What Rob Pelinka did to get Luka and Mark Williams and keep Austin Reaves, that is good gm. And I'm not the biggest fan of Austin Reaves. I think in a championship team, he has to be four. Oh, that's harsh. A soft three or a really strong four like Derrick White. You can win a championship if Derrick White's your third best player. If he's your fourth, you're really, really good. By the way, you think Luka and LeBron are scared of OKC and SGA and the Houston Rockets? You think LeBron and Luka are scared of any of those guys? I watched a little SGA last night. He looked good. I think he had a 50 piece. Yeah, he's a scoring machine. Crescent City, you're looking live. Matt Hasselbeck joining us now. All right, let's talk about Amazon Prime. It's not just one thing. 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