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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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So yesterday in the much harder to predict nfc, I had three new playoff teams. Today we do the afc. Now that's a much easier conference to predict. Last year I went 4 for 4 on division winners Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, CJ Stroud. Pretty easy. So I think the AFC is much, much easier to predict. Yesterday, you know, you're throwing darts on some of it. I don't know how. How well the Niners draft, I don't know. How good is Darnold in Seattle? I don't know. I think I know. I don't know. So today we go to the AFC again. I think this is an easier, easier, much easier conference to predict. Let's start with the AFC East. If Josh Allen is in his prime like Brady was, he will win this division going away. Front office coach. They've added Joey Bosa, Josh Palmer, a couple good linebackers. It's the best team going away. They got the star quarterback, the star back, the left tackle. You know they're gonna be fine. And a good edge rusher, capable coach. Patriots, one of my surprise teams in the league. I think they have the second most talented quarterback in the division. I don't think it's particularly close in Drake May. They got to get him weapons in the draft, but it's a very good tight end running back draft. And they upgraded with Mike Frabel at coach from Gerard Mayo who just didn't work and they spent a lot of money. So it's going to be a different team. I think they will double their win total, no question. Dolphins third, no notable upgrades, but smart coach, capable quarterback. If Tron Armstead retires at left tackle, that is a problem. That is a problem. And the Jets, I mean, it is what it is. I got a new coach. Downgraded quarterback from Aaron to Justin Fields. It is what it is. I think this is an easy one. Bills, Patriots, Dolphins, Jets, AFC north, great division. I'm gonna go Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Brown. Okay, the Ravens. The only thing I worried about is is Ronnie Stanley, the left tackle coming back? Answer is yes. Bengals, cheap franchise. Their three best players, Burrow, Jamar, Chase, Hendrickson, even T. Higgins are four best players. Aren't particularly happy. Very, very top heavy. But this year I think basically Burrow and their star receivers will lead them narrowly to a wild card birth. Whether or not Aaron Rodgers goes to Pittsburgh or not. They are tone deaf. Offensively and over the last five years, they just consistently get bad late in the year. Steelers third. And I like the coach in Cleveland. They got Miles Garrett re signed, but you know, what do they fish rot from the top or the head or something like that? What's it saying? I just don't trust the organization, ownership. AFC south. So I think Tennessee will be the most improved team. I'm going to take the Texans, Titans, Colts and Jags. Now the Texans are rebuilding the O line. They moved off three guys, so I think they had to. They fired Bobby Slowik. But again, I get the best quarterback. I get arguably the best coach. So I'm going to go with the Texan C.J. stroud. I mean, again, I'm going to do it again this year. Best quarterback in the division wins. I think Cam Ward actually is pretty electric and wins some games for the Titans and will arguably be the second best quarterback in the division. And also, you're kind of guessing on him. You don't know what he is. So generally you need an off season to figure out what a quarterback is. I think Cam Ward comes into some backyard football, but J. Mack likes the Titans as a surprise team. I do too, potentially as a playoff team. I like the Colts roster, but they're going into camp with the quarterback competition. That sounds very collegiate. Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson don't love either. Like the coach, the gm, the roster. Colts third. I don't know what to make. Trevor Lawrence hasn't been what we thought. They've got a new coach again. Do you trust the front office? I'll watch their draft. It is what it is. Finally the best division in football. I mean, you get literally everybody. I'm going to go. Chargers win the AFC West. Kansas City's the wild card team. Broncos third. Raiders four. So I'm going to lean into Jim Harbaugh. I think Naji Harris is the perfect running back for this offense. They brought Mike Williams back, a physical receiver. I thought their improvement last year was remarkable. I think they'll keep improving. We've got to be honest about Kansas City. They're not winning all those close games again. Their offensive line is in total flux at left tackle. They're going to start a left tackle that's never started. They let go of Joe Tuney, their best offensive lineman. I think Denver made two big swings on defense with Hufanga and Greenlaw. I think they both pay dividends. I think. I think. I even think the Raiders will be viable. Geno Smith. They got their O line set. Pete Carroll Chip Kelly, Max Crosby. I think their defense has some players. They were all banged up last year. They gave the Chiefs fits twice this division. I don't think the winner of this division WINS More than 12, whoever it is, and I don't think the fourth place team wins fewer than eight. So I think this is the best division going away in football. I mean the coaching is Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid, Sean Payton and Pete Carroll. And Pete's got Chip Kelly and Andy Reid's got Spags and, and Kansas. And then all of a sudden you got the Chargers have Jesse Minter on defense with Harbaugh. This is arguably the best coach division in the history of the NFL. So my division winners, I'm going to do it like last year with one exception. Bills, Ravens, Texans, Chargers, wild card teams of the Patriots, Bengals and Chiefs. So I have five new playoff teams, two in the AFC here, Patriots, Bengals and three in the NFC. So I have five new playoff teams. There have been at least four and often more for 35 years in a row. So some of you fanboys are going to be upset, but you have to have minimum four new playoff teams. So my new playoff teams, yesterday I had Seattle in the playoffs. I didn't make it. Last year I had Atlanta winning their division. I believe in Michael Panicks. That was a new playoff team. Here I've got the Patriots and Bengals. I'm forgetting somebody in the nfc. So, and, and I, I, I, wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, if he goes to Minnesota, oh, I had the Bears yesterday. My bad is a wild card team. So wherever Aaron goes, if he goes to Minnesota, my guess is he's a backup by like October they're going to start JJ McCarthy if he goes to New York, they're not getting past Philly and, and Washington. If he goes to Pittsburgh, he probably is worth a game over Russell Wilson. But Russell Wilson was really good until the end and all the rah rah stuff just doesn't pan out at the end of the season. And so I, I don't think Aaron's going to change the dynamics of any division in football at this point. Again, last 30 games he's 11 and 19. His passer ratings under 90, that's with Matt LaFleur. You know, that's with like, okay, it was the Jets. Well, it was also Green Bay. So most of those games, majority of them or close to majority or half, they were Green Bay games with Matt LaFleur. So he didn't make the playoffs last year, they lost to Detroit at home. Remember that the Lab was the last game of the regular season.
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Max Crosby
So you want, you want some pushback or no?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I do.
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Max Crosby
Of course this is tough because I like this team a lot. I was just drilling down on the Chargers a little bit. You know how many teams they beat last year that made the playoffs? One, Denver twice. That's it. They did not beat anybody good all season. And I look at the Chargers off season. Colin who? How. Where have they upgraded Najee Harris? Is that an upgrade? Mike Williams bringing his corpse back to run. Run down the field. I don't see the improve. I don't see how the roster's gotten better.
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Colin Cowherd
What have we said about Jim Harbaugh first three years in the NFL.
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Max Crosby
I know, I know.
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Colin Cowherd
Did you see their draft last year? A lot of guys that could play.
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Max Crosby
I guess my, my disagreement would be like, I think the Broncos have improved their team dramatically. And the Chargers, I don't think they're like status quo.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I said the winner will not win more than 12 games and the loser will not win less than fewer than eight. I think the division goes down to the last three weeks. I think health. What worries me about the Broncos, Hunga and Greenlaw struggle to stay healthy. Well, yeah, that's, that's a real thing. And by the way, Garrett Bowles has had some hell stuff at left tackle. So a lot of their guys like the Niners last year. I worry about Denver staying healthy for 18 weeks.
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Max Crosby
I am a little to go to a last place team. Not the jets, the Jags. You have just sold all of your Trevor Lawrence stock.
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Colin Cowherd
You're done. Done.
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Max Crosby
You're off Lawrence.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no.
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Max Crosby
There was a time where you would not take a call on him. He was in that group and it's over.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you know, it's funny. So Greg Cosell for years and years kept telling me over and over, the tape tells you he is not close to Josh Allen, that he, he doesn't see the field as well as he should. He tends to run sometimes to a fault. He gets banged up and listen, there was always a question about Trevor Lawrence. Here was the knock. He really likes football. Does he love it? That was the Andrew Luck criticism. Andrew Luck had a big broad life. He really enjoyed football. He didn't live for it. He wasn't Brady, he wasn't obsessed. He's not obsessed like Brady or Breeze, just obsessed. Trevor Lawrence is good at it and likes it. But he said when he got drafted, it's not the beginning and the end of my. My. It's not. It doesn't Define.
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Max Crosby
It doesn't define me.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, I kind of want. I want football too, at some point, as a quarterback. To define you for. I'm not asking forever. I'm just saying for like 12 years. It's got to be kind of the center point. I mean, I'm not. I'm not asking football players to not have a life and be happily married and have. I'm telling you. But for the 10, for the eight years you're in your prime, I need you to really be focused, really care deeply.
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Max Crosby
He's distracted. Right. It's not like he's like, oh, I love sports cars or whatever. He just. The football is like, eh, I'm playing football. Cool. It's not like Tom Brady's obsessive.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know what? Most people in my. Steve Jobs was obsessed and he changed the world. You know, most people that are obsessed, all these devices we have, they're built by obsessed people. So I know everybody wants you to be balanced and healthy. I like people that deeply care about stuff.
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Max Crosby
I think quietly, Trevor Lawrence is like probably one of the ten most interesting figures heading into the season. Because Colin, there was talk like, do we even extend him? Like, how much money do you give him? Because he hasn't been the number one pick you thought he'd be. He was supposed to be generational.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, that's why the NFL is great. You can be a second, third, fourth, fifth round pick like Max Crosby, who's joining us live. Six years for Pro Bowls, leads the NFL and tackles for loss over the last four seasons. You know, I've told you this before. I love you, man. And I. You did something this week that I think you are very willing to talk about. The demon that you've overcome. You've been very willing. There was a picture you put on your Instagram. So I'll ask you about it because you put it out there first. I wouldn't otherwise, but I've talked to you about this before and there are people right now in this country struggling with what you were struggling with. Do you remember the day that you just said, I'm over this. I'm going to change my life. Do you remember that day?
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. First off, Collins, great to see you always. You know, you're my guy. But yeah, man, I'll never forget it. You know what I mean? That was the biggest day and most important day of my life. You know, besides the day I married my wife and the day my daughter was born. I wouldn't be here in this position if I didn't make that. Make that decision for myself and my family, you know, to get healthy and. And put myself first and get the help I needed. So, yeah, man, it's been a. It's been a hell of a journey ever since. It's been five years already. It's crazy how. How time flies.
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Colin Cowherd
Do people ever come up to you and thank you for your messaging and willingness to talk about it?
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, all the time. You know, my first year, once I got a year of sobriety, that's when I came out public about it. Yeah, because honestly, I had, you know, I had a guy like Darren Waller in my locker room who was very public and open about it, and I was kind of terrified to, you know, tell people that, you know, I was an addict and I was going through what I was going through. But seeing a guy like that and seeing and talking to other people, a big influence, you know, talk about their struggles and be open about it. I think it was super important because of my platform and how I can impact others and get back, because, you know, a lot of people don't like to talk about it, but there's millions of people suffering from addiction, so very open and honest about it, and I think that's the most important thing. You know, you live one life and, you know, as many people as you can help is. Is the best thing you could possibly do. So that's what it's all about.
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Colin Cowherd
So you are now in the best division in football. It's crazy. I mean, look at the coaches. Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Spags, Jim Harbaugh, Jesse Minter. Now you have Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly. So when Pete speaks to the team or you individually for the first time, what was Pete Carroll's message?
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Unknown Speaker
Compete. You know, he talks about it all the time. No matter what we're doing, we're going to compete. We're going to have fun when we do it. And the culture is. Is first and foremost. You know, Pete, everywhere he's been, has created a culture of winning and. And. And fun. And it doesn't mean you're not working hard. It means that everybody enjoys showing up every single day. We have one of the hardest jobs in the world. There's a reason why there's only 1500 NFL players on the planet. You know what I mean? There's 8 billion people, and there's only a tiny, tiny group of people that can really do it every day. So you have to enjoy the process, and that's something that he's big on. I've talked to A ton of people that he knows and has coached, they've reached out to me from, you know, Marshawn lynch to Richard Sherman, Michael Bennett, all those guys, they, all the, the wording and how they approach me about how Pete is and how he operates are all so consistent and they absolutely love, love him. So I'm super excited. You know, me and Pete have only known each other for a couple months now, but I can't wait to continue, you know, building that relationship and continue to do it together and build a winner here.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's funny the quarterbacks that you pursue, so you got Mahomes who moves really well and throws, can throw left handed. Bo Nix is smaller, but way more athletic than people think. Justin Herbert's. Justin Herbert's a bit of a house. When you rush, do you. Is that useless? You don't care? Or do you like, are there angles you take on guys? Do you think differently when rushing? Bo, Justin and Patrick?
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely, absolutely. You know, they all have their strengths, strengths and weaknesses. And it's up to me to figure out the best approach every single week. Because every quarterback's different, every team is different, every coach is different. And the schemes that I gotta, you know, go against change weekly, you know what I mean? I know I'm being circled every week and they're gonna double team me, triple team me, Chip and all that. So for me, it's like an ultimate mind game more than anything because I'm trying to figure out how to break that, break that code. And it's become more and more of a challenge, but it's become more and more exciting, you know what I mean, over the years. Because it's like, I take it, you know, I take it as like a, a sign of respect, you know, that teams are coming after me. But you gotta, you gotta be so locked in and you gotta find those couple plays in the game. Okay, if they get in this formation, this is how I'm gonna approach this. And this is where I'm gonna change the game. Like that's literally how I'm watching the film. Like I'm watching my film all, you know, leading up to it. How can I improve? How could I be the best version of myself? And then, okay, where is this, this, these little windows I can, I can capitalize on? So, yeah, every quarterback is different. You know, Pat is, I mean, Pat is one of one. He's different. You know, he's going to try to make every single play. You know, guys like Josh, Allen, Lamar, even Herbert, like Herbert's gonna You gotta, you gotta smack him over and over and over again. He's gonna literally, like, he'll be on it damn near on his back and he's still trying to get rid of the ball and make play. So, yeah, it's, it's all, you know, it's ultimate respect at the end of the day. But they know, like, my job is to, is to kill him. And they're the ones, you know, trying to try to play quarterback, but also they know I'm, I'm trying to take their head off at the same time.
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Colin Cowherd
So I've said before, there are very few defensive players that lead teams that are the soul of the team. And when you were talking about contract, I had said on the show, I said, when I think Raiders, Even in the 70s and 80s, I think of Max Crosby. He looks like a Raider, he plays like a Raider. You talk a lot of trash. Is that to fire you up or is it to intimidate others? Because you, you should be in my business. You never stop talking. Who's that for?
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Unknown Speaker
I think it's a mixture and I do appreciate that. Con, I know your boy over there. I've seen one of the clips. I, I'm gonna keep, I'm gonna keep my opinion to myself, but I know you know football. Colin, I don't know about your boy over there, but I would just keep it like this, you know, for me, I get fired up. It just depends. Like, honestly, sometimes if you're just in a that day, you can't predict how you're going to feel every single day. Sometimes you're going to be in the best mood ever. Some days you're going to be in a dark place. Like, that's just what comes with it. And I just, sometimes I just talk to kind of like get myself going, you know what I mean? Like, try to get myself. Like if I feel like I'm not 110% myself, I might just start a fight in the middle of practice just to get myself going, you know what I mean? So it just kind of depends on where my mind's at and what space I'm at, you know? I don't like to try to chase a feeling because some, you know, like, if you have a great game, some guys will go be like, okay, I need to feel like that again, and how do I get to that? You can't chase. There's never going to be that exact feeling, you know what I mean? You just have to go with the flow and be where your feet are and find Whatever space you're in and maximize that, because that's just reality. That's how life is. Some days you wake up, you got the big smile on your face, hey, I'm. Have a great day. Some days your body's sore, you're hurting, but you still have to find a way to be at your best. So I just feel like there's no perfect recipe to it. You just have to, you can't try to overthink it and try to make something that it isn't. I just try to go with the flow. And some games I'm quiet, I might not say a single word. I'm just laser focus. Some games I'm just something pissed me off or I'm, you know, trying to get myself going and I'm just on somebody like Ravens game, like I was talking the whole game. Some other games, I've had some of the best games in my career and I'm sitting there smiling the whole game, not saying a word, not talking, just. I just, I just go with the flow, you know what I mean? I don't try to force any type of vibe or energy.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally, for about a week, you were the highest paid non quarterback in the world. And I know you're not about a money guy. Every time I see you, jeans, T shirt, you're watching ufc. But do you ever. That day when you signed that contract, who'd you think about? What'd you think about that one day that where money was like a big discussion in your life.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Honestly, you know, this, you know, being the second time that I've gotten an extension, you know, the first time was like, oh my God, you know what I mean? Like, it was just crazy. Like I did it, I, you know, I got this huge contract and I always like had that in the back of my head. How would that feel? And I feel like the first time it was like this big thing and for the outside world, you know, I was like the third or fourth highest paid end at that time. And I'm like, I'm a top five guy now, blah, blah, blah. And it meant a lot more to me then, then I felt like it to the outside world. But this time around, like setting history, you know, resetting history, being the highest paid non quarterback, I feel like the outside world is like a huge, huge response. And for me it was just like another day. Like I can't even explain it, you know what I mean? Like, I'm so laser focused right now, being at my best and getting back healthy and preparing for this next Season. I got so many goals and things I want to accomplish. I truly, like, I just wanted to get. Get to a point where I was happy and where I'm comfortable and my family's comfortable, and I'm. It's the same as usual. I was literally the day I signed my contract, I'm in there boxing with the guys and getting my work in. Before I went inside, my contract, my agents and all them are looking at me like. I'm, like, I gotta get my work in first. I'm going. You know what I mean? Like, this is most important. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have the deal if I'm not putting in the work. So it really, it's. It's unbelievable. Don't get me wrong. Like, it's. It's an absolute blessing. Like, I am set beyond set, and my kids are set and all that is incredible. But truly, right now, like, I'm just focused on building, you know, trying to win a Super bowl, most importantly, and building a Hall of Fame resume. And that's. That's my focus every single day.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey. Hey. Do you meet Gino yet? Gino Smith? Have you met him yet?
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Unknown Speaker
Yes, I have. He was. He was in the building a couple days ago. So the second, like, the news broke, I had been on FaceTime with him, like, five minutes before he called me with a big smile and was all fired up. So, yeah, I was super fired up. I'm super happy that he's a part of our. Part of this team now, and I just have heard nothing but great things about him. So just taking it one day at a time. You know, we're building our relationship, and I've been a fan of from afar for a long time. I think Gino, you know, people have opinions, you know, how the beginning of his career went and things like that, but look what he's done as he's gotten, you know, as the years have gone by, and he truly is a really, really, really good quarterback, and I know he's still far from satisfied. So, yeah, we've had some great conversations, and, you know, we're. We're definitely excited to get to work together.
- [25:03]
Colin Cowherd
It's so great seeing you. I'll be going to more UFC fights now here in the next couple of months. It's always great to see you. Congrats to you and your family and sharing some personal stuff. I sometimes. I don't know if I should ask those questions, but you're always very appreciative and you give great responses, and there's People out there that have dealt with what you did, and you're five years free of it, and it's amazing. And I just love seeing you, man. I appreciate you coming on the show.
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Unknown Speaker
You're the best brother. And Colin, I see all your clips, man, all the love and respect you show, it truly means a lot, man. You're one of the best in the game. So I appreciate you. I'll be seeing you soon.
- [25:37]
Colin Cowherd
All right, Max Crosby, and I've said this before, there are very few defensive players. Lawrence Taylor's one. He defined the Giants. It was not Phil Sims. It was a. Lawrence Taylor defined the Giants. The toughness. Max Crosby's the Raiders. Like, you have to be like Lamar Jackson. To me, I would argue this. Mahomes does not define the Chiefs. I think Andy Reid shares in that. Spag shares in that. I think Lamar Jackson is the Ravens. Like, he's the soul in the fabric. I cannot see him playing for any other team. Max Crosby's a Raider. And then if you followed the NFL since the 70s, 80s, 90s, you go back to Lyle Alzado and Matuszak and all the tough guys with the Raiders and Jack Tatum and even their offensive guys, you know, tough guys. Crosby's a Raider. And by the way, is it two X's, Max with two X's? That's a Raider. Yeah. You notice he said one guy on.
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Max Crosby
This set really knows my phone is just not won't stop buzzing. People like, max Crosby hates you. What did you say? I'm like, what did I do? And everybody's pointing to this clip. We talked about his extension.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Max Crosby
Remember Max Crosby got the big extension we Talked about on March 5, and all these Raider fans jumped down my throat, angry Raiders.
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Colin Cowherd
You were like, well, I don't know if I would pay him. And I'm like, that's like not playing Lamar Jackson.
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Max Crosby
We talked about trading Miles Garrett because the Browns weren't in contention.
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Colin Cowherd
You did?
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Max Crosby
Yeah. You were on board with that?
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Colin Cowherd
No. What? Oh, no. Miles Garrett.
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Max Crosby
Miles Garrett of the Browns. Because they're not a contention. So why wouldn't you move off Crosby, who's a. By all accounts?
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Colin Cowherd
Because. Because he's the soul of the team.
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Max Crosby
Miles Garrett isn't the soul.
- [27:16]
Colin Cowherd
Well, no, he's the best player on the team.
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Max Crosby
Who's the soul of the Browns?
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Colin Cowherd
I would say Stefanski. Stefanski got Baker Mayfield. Stefanski has had to deal with nonsense at quarterback, and he last few years, he's won 11 games and 11 games. He's the soul of the team. Don't confuse best player. Jokic is the soul of the Nuggets, right? Okay.
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Max Crosby
Or is it Malone, the coach?
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, LeBron is the soul of the Lakers, not AD or Luca. So it's just the best player isn't always like, Lawrence Taylor was the Giants, Reggie White was the packers, you know? But I would say when Aaron Donald was with the Rams, McVay is the soul of the team. His energy, his intelligence, his culture. McVeigh is the. They can move off any player. McVeigh is the Rams, so.
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Max Crosby
But do you think it's fair for Max Crosby, your boy, to jump off the top rope and clobber me?
- [28:08]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I kind of like it. Huh? Hey, slow feet. Don't eat. You didn't move very well.
- [28:12]
Max Crosby
That was harsh. Now, listen, I do remember seeing Max Crosby at the Super Bowl.
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Colin Cowherd
He's a great guy.
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Max Crosby
He's an enormous human being.
- [28:18]
Colin Cowherd
A great guy.
- [28:19]
Max Crosby
Seems like a nice guy.
- [28:20]
Colin Cowherd
When we go to UFC fights, there's all these media types who do I hang out with.
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Max Crosby
The athletes?
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Colin Cowherd
No, like Max Crosby. We always sit there and have a. Well, I have a beer and he eats. Yeah, he didn't have slow feet.
- [28:33]
Max Crosby
I need to get on his diet to bulk up a little bit so I can.
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Colin Cowherd
But they're just guys. Anybody listening to me that's over 50. Like, Max Crosby is a raider from the 70s. He. He. That's what the Raiders were like, you know, the tattoo culture is much greater now than it was when I was a kid. Growing up, people with tattoos served in the military. Like, you'd have a Navy guy with it. You could always tell if a guy was in the Navy because he would have a tattoo. Now it's the tattoo culture. But, I mean, Max is like, he's leaning into being a Raider.
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Max Crosby
It probably sounds like you're too close to him to be impartial when it.
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Colin Cowherd
Comes, you know, I don't always want to be impartial. I try to be, but you know what?
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Max Crosby
When you're not, why you're never going to be a gm, man. You can't have a relationship with this guy Crosby.
- [29:17]
Colin Cowherd
I don't always listen. I try to be fair. But I do like certain players because of the way they respond and react. I can't help it. I mean, I cannot help liking LeBron based on being one of the smartest players in the history of sports. I can't. I mean, I was more of a Tiger guy than a Phil guy, and I love Phil, but there was something about Sundays and Tiger and buffed and the red shirt and pumping his fist and throwing his clubs. I'm like, that's why I don't like country clubs. I was more of a Tiger than a Phil guy. And I love Phil. If I would. I was always more than a Magic guy, than a Bird guy and I loved Bird. So it just, there are, you know, this whole impartial thing. Everybody has a bias. I think I'm a moderate. I think I'm a moderate with politics, but on social issues, I've historically gone left. On fiscal issues, I've gone right. We all have biases. But there are some players I root for.
- [30:12]
Max Crosby
Max Crosby.
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Colin Cowherd
He's one of your favorite players, by the way. Brady. I love Brady's obsessive nature.
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Max Crosby
Who doesn't love Tom Brady?
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Colin Cowherd
But again, am I. I always give Brady the benefit of the doubt. Well, then I'm biased. I was always a Tom guy. Now I know Peyton and love him. But I thought Tom, I thought sometimes Peyton could clinch his teeth in tight spots. I never felt that with Tom. So it's, it's, you know, it's just this idea that all of us are just never have a bias. Well, everybody does. I'm a Max guy.
- [30:43]
Max Crosby
I don't really have much of a bias. Just to the jets, but they're irrelevant. So what is it about like, yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Yesterday people are like, you know, like, I'll get a lot of stuff on the Chargers picking them over the Chiefs, folks. The Chiefs were like 10 and one in close games.
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Max Crosby
I think they were undefeated. I don't think they lost any close.
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Colin Cowherd
No, that's not going to happen. And their own lines, a mess. They just let go of. They don't have a left tackle that's ever started in that, in that division. I got Jesse Minter. I got all these pass rushers. You got Max Crosby. Raiders could have beaten them twice last year and now the Raiders have like a grown up quarterback. Rocket Mortgage help you. Helps you use your rent payments to get closer to home ownership. It's called Rent Rewards. Save up to five grand off the cost of your home just by paying rent. Go to Rocket.com Rocket Mortgage LLC. Licensed in all 50 estates. Want more heard the herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. This podcast is brought to you by Pfizer. Let's talk health. You may not know about pneumococcal disease, but if you're 50 or older or 19 or older with certain medical conditions like diabetes, you're at risk and it could turn your plans, big or small, into a hospital visit. So get vaccinated. It's one action you can take to help protect against pneumococcal pneumonia, an invasive pneumococcal disease. Keep enjoying everything you're looking forward to, even if it's just a podcast. Schedule a shot@vaxassist.com it's the last game.
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Max Crosby
Yeah, well, we could do that if you want. If you want.
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Colin Cowherd
Can I?
- [33:59]
Max Crosby
Yeah, let's, let's, let's just make a Max Crosby specific.
- [34:03]
Colin Cowherd
No, I was looking at this thing. So you mentioned Cooper cup earlier. This is really interesting. So the Rams are seen as very pro player. Okay? Very. That's why they can get Stafford. That's why they can get devonte Adams. Very pro player. Yet it's all about winning in data. And they move off guys quickly. So they're moving off Cooper Cup. So they have moved off Von Miller, Robert Woods, Todd Gurley, Jalen Ramsey, Jared Goff and they have been right every time. Every single time. So they'll, they'll treat you great, but they got a gift bag and a see you later in the next breath. And it's really interesting. So much of this league is saying goodbye at the right time. And a great example of this, Warren Sharp had this yesterday. Cooper Cup's rank in the ability to get open has gone downhill from 15th to 71st. It's now 141st. Devonte Adams, when you compare that, oh, he does get open a lot of the time. He is now 6th, 9th, 17th, 15th. So they just looked at data and said one guy gets open and one guy doesn't. We love you. We're moving off it. And I think that's the. They moved off Gurley and Goff and by the way, some guys had stuff in the tank. The only guys they haven't moved off, they didn't want to move off Stafford, although they gave him a number and Aaron Donald retired and moved off them and was still first or second best defensive tackle when he did it. So they that that's the thing about the Rams. This is what the Niners haven't done. The Niners waited a year too long to get off guys and now they feel wobbly and have to hit on six to seven draft picks. They didn't want to let go of Greenlaw. They don't want to let go of Unga. They paid two receivers and they should have moved off Debo. We said it on this show, Debo's a good player. Chess piece. You can't pay both of them because you got Joanne Jennings and you got Kittle got to pay those guys. So there's a Belichick feel to these Rams. The difference is Belichick a couple of times moved off guys and got burned by it like they had three or four good years left. Nobody exits like the Rams do and they're never wrong. Now Jared Goff, still good, but Stafford was an upgrade. So I think on Cooper cup they, they went into this year, it was very obvious. If you watch Cooper cup last year, they were not designating plays for him. And so I think they went to him a year ago. My guess is they went to him a year ago and said, restructure your deal. And he's like, no thanks, we got to get money back. But if you watch them last year from week one, Puka was the guy. Puka was absolutely the guy. Kyron Williams and that was with the tight end Higby out and they still weren't directing a lot of traffic and throws to Cooper Cup. So J. Mac is next with Herdline Live in la. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that while other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together. I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search kohvinoinrich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, That's Covino and Rich. This podcast is brought to you by Pfizer. If you're 50 or older, getting sick can keep you away from where you need to be. You don't want surprises like pneumococcal pneumonia or invasive pneumococcal disease. You're 6.4 times more likely to get pneumococcal pneumonia compared with adults 18 to 49. It's recommended that people 50 or older get vaccinated. Being sick could get between you and the people who rely on you. So schedule your shot@vaxassist.com this one's for.
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Max Crosby
The NASCAR Cup Series heats up in Vegas where Christopher Bell will look to hold off the pack and capture his fourth consecutive checkered flag. The pre race kicks things off at 2 Eastern with the green flag flying at 3:30. Only on FFS1.
- [40:28]
Colin Cowherd
How about J Mac with the news? No no no, turn on the news. This is the hardline news.
- [40:37]
Max Crosby
Pittsburgh Steelers Collins still searching for a QB but they got DK Metcalf. Ooh bet on who in the super bowl people. He got a five year extension. Metcalf talked to the media yesterday, said he's comfortable with what the team plans to do at quarterback despite not knowing who's going to throw him the football. Kyle I got Mason Rudolph as a backup. Not to be confused with Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer. It's bad in Pittsburgh right now.
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Colin Cowherd
No, but they don't think so. So again, I'm not anti DK Metcalf. 5 years 150 million for a highly penalized wide receiver who did not catch a lot of third down to first down conversion catches. Like I said is he's a bigger stronger player than Omaron St. Brown. Omaron st. Brown catches 75 times became first downs. I am for receivers who move the chains on third down and DK doesn't but he's a big play guy. But my argument is that's what George Pickens is so it's the same guy.
- [41:37]
Max Crosby
So well, interesting you mentioned Pickens. So you know, Pickens wears 14. DK Metcalf in Seattle wore 14. Well, DK Metcalf wants 14. And Pickens is like, no, no, no. That's my number. Not for sale. DK Metcalf's gonna wear four. So the wide receivers already squabbling in what's going.
- [41:55]
Colin Cowherd
I would move. I would move Pickens, but you got.
- [41:58]
Max Crosby
A second for Pickens? Still on his rookie deal. He's just a bit of a headache that I think.
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Colin Cowherd
I think you probably could. This is not a great receiver draft. I think you could.
- [42:09]
Max Crosby
You got to take a dumb team and be like, hey, hey, Pickens, look at these numbers. You know, my jets or something like that.
- [42:16]
Colin Cowherd
Would kind of feel like a Hail Mary for a coaching staff trying to save their job. Like the Giants.
- [42:20]
Max Crosby
Well, the Panther, the Panthers, Carolina. Hey, we won T. Higgins. We couldn't get it. We'll take.
- [42:25]
Colin Cowherd
I. I could see them doing that.
- [42:26]
Max Crosby
And then it's like, you know, know Bryce Young, who apparently is coming on the show. Bryce Young will be like, what are we doing? Not cr. Anyways, next story is we're waiting on Aaron Rodgers Decision. Collins, where's he gonna go? Steelers, Giants, they're the front runners. The Vikings are looming as a dark horse. I am dubious of this, but according to Diana Rossini, Rogers is expected to make his decision soon. And it sounds like the Vikings have had meetings and conversations. Conversations about pursuing Rogers. The Giants have the biggest offer, but they don't seem to be itching for his services. And all signs kind of point to Pittsburgh. But it would be impressive if he did pick the Giants and you nailed it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I. You made fun of me when I said, he doesn't have to leave. He can stay in his house.
- [43:17]
Max Crosby
It's just such a weak move to go, oh, let me go across town.
- [43:20]
Colin Cowherd
Well, I think you're viewing Pittsburgh.
- [43:22]
Max Crosby
They hate each other. This wouldn't be going Rams, Chargers. Right? That's totally.
- [43:25]
Colin Cowherd
He can play in the same stadium. It's just. Same house, same stadium. I just get a better offensive coach and I get a better weapon. Neighbors is every bit as good as Garrett Wilson. I think he's got more upside, probably. So my take is what the Giants need is a quarterback, tight end, running back. Aaron's the quarterback. It is an excellent tight end, running back, draft. So if they had, you know, I'm just telling you, if I was Aaron, I would either retire, which I think I would probably do first, or New York Giants.
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Max Crosby
I don't think you can go out like that. That's just. It's like. I think Dan Marino's final game, they lost like 61 to 7 in the playoffs. It's like, oh, my gosh, Marino, it's over. You know, you want to go out on a high note if possible.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know if it's possible.
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Max Crosby
Possible with the Steelers, they could make the playoffs again. They could. With Rogers, I mean, they're not going anywhere, right?
- [44:20]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Yeah. I don't think they are, but they could. Yeah. Final story.
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Max Crosby
Colin is to college basketball, Cooper Flag. We talked about the injury yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Max Crosby
When it happened. He is listed as doubtful to play today and for the rest of the tournament. Actually, they play Duke UNC tonight at 7 Eastern. Cooper Flag, best player in the country. I don't know. Duke's odds to win the Natty went down a little bit after this. They're gonna need a healthy Cooper flag. It doesn't look like that bad.
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Colin Cowherd
Just keep them out of the ACC tournament. They'll still be a number one, won't they?
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Max Crosby
Yeah, they'll be a number one. They're not going to lose the number one seed.
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Colin Cowherd
They will.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Just keep it.
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Max Crosby
Unless they say Cooper flags out a month, then it's.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, for a kid like that, it's probably four to five days of really intense treatment. If he was 32, it's 12 days.
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Max Crosby
Yeah. 18 years old.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, 18 years old. I mean, five days of heavy treatment and it'll be 95%.
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Max Crosby
He's probably the best thing to come out of Maine in, like, the last few decades.
- [45:18]
Colin Cowherd
Well, Stephen King. Yeah. I've been to Maine twice.
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Max Crosby
What'd you think?
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Colin Cowherd
I was fine. I did a speech there once. I drove by Stephen King's house, which is pretty cool. And then one time as a kid, I was on a propeller jet from Seattle, landed there, then went to Europe. I remember that. Stormy. Wow. But last time I was there, I had a very nice lunch with the people that I spoke in front of about 4,000 people. People were great.
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Max Crosby
4,000. Are there that many people in Maine?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, sorry.
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Max Crosby
I've only been there once.
- [45:47]
Colin Cowherd
Maybe it wasn't. It was a lot of people. It was a lot of people. They were nice. Very nice.
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Max Crosby
Was Cooper Flag's parents there?
- [45:53]
Colin Cowherd
I didn't see it. I saw this tall kid shooting jumpers in the backyard, though. Figured it wasn't Stephen King. Even King's house is pretty cool. Just throw it out.
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Max Crosby
I would hope so.
- [46:02]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, pretty big deal up there.
- [46:05]
Max Crosby
He's kind of a wealthy individual. That's probably the circle you hang with, right? That kind of guy.
- [46:09]
Colin Cowherd
No, I do not. Horror writers. No, I don't. J. Mac with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. Oh, J. Mac. So we had our predictions. Should we throw those up there again? I'll give you my predictions. I did NFC yesterday. I think that's harder than the afc. So once again, I'm picking, you know, the top quarterbacks. I do think the Chiefs come back down the earth. I have the Bills, Ravens, Texans, Chargers, and then the Patriots, Bengals, Chiefs. Listen, Kansas City's not going like 10 and one in close games. Their offensive lines worse and there's no help. And I mean, they're, they're drafting late first round. You're not getting, you're getting the fifth best offensive tackle. So. And you know, Travis is expensive, Patrick's expensive. I mean, we just saw Xavier Worthy got in trouble. Rasheed Rice, immature guy. So they've got. I mean, this is not me making a bold prediction. I think they'll win 10 or 11 games. I think the Chargers probably win 12, so. And I think the Raiders, Chargers, Broncos, all significantly, they're getting better. And I think the Chiefs are getting worse. I think, I mean, the Chiefs have been to two Super Bowls and gotten smoked in a couple of them, and then they've won a couple of them. But I don't think, I think the Tom Brady super bowl loss was their left tackle got hurt before the game. Kansas City looked completely outclassed and outmanned, and I don't think you can correct all of that. Plus, J. Mac and I have talked about this. The super bowl losing curse, teams that lose Super Bowls more often than not, it's a sign of things. And I just think they have huge O line issues and I don't know how you solve them. Because nobody's given up a great left tackle. Because if you have a, if you have a good left tackle, that generally means you're protecting a good quarterback. So that's one of those positions. The draft gives you about two good left tackles a year, and once you get them, you just don't give them up. Right. You think it's quarterbacks. It's also left tackle. You can find pass rushers at any one time. We got about six great left tackles in this sport. So they're my NFL playoff predictions.
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Max Crosby
That's a great point. You left out barbers. You find a good barber, you don't give that up. Why did the Texans give up on.
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Colin Cowherd
Tunsil too many penalties, got very expensive, great pass blocker, mediocre run blocker, little immature, too many penalties and I think, I think they felt they got the best out of him and they're going to move on. I think they feel like I don't think he's in that top four or five class and I think, oh yeah.
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Max Crosby
I would agree he's top 10.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, a lot, lot of penalties.
- [48:47]
Max Crosby
His biggest contribution as a pro was wearing a gas mask and doing the bong hits.
- [48:52]
Colin Cowherd
Remember, his best contribution was protecting CJ Stroud first two years in the league.
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Max Crosby
He has not been He's a very good pass blocker.
- [49:00]
Colin Cowherd
Yes, very good. Maybe the two or three in the league. He doesn't run block quite as well, but he's top 10 left tackle. I like Ronnie Stanley more now. Ronnie Stanley is not as good a pass blocker, but he's a better run blocker and doesn't get penalties. This podcast is brought to you by Pfizer. If you're 50 or older, getting sick can keep you away from where you need to be. You don't want surprises like pneumococcal pneumonia or invasive pneumococcal disease. You're 6.4 times more likely to get pneumococcal pneumonia compared with adults 18 to 49. It's recommended that people 50 or older get vaccinated. Being sick could get between you and the people who rely on you, so schedule your shot@vax assist.com this is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser Podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out and you can learn more by following ot'supwithhate famous smoke has been dominating the cigar game since 1939 with the best prices on the best cigars needed smoke for the big game or a big win. Famous has you covered. Head to famousmoke.com with promo code NIGHTCAP to score 20 off your order of 99 or more. Million of cigars are in stock and ready to ship, all stored in the massive humidor and guaranteed fresh. Trust the name that's been in the.
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