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Andy Reid
Now let's get this party started.
Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in. It's hour two live in Los Angeles. It's the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. I'm not getting a haircut for the Super Bowl. I'm letting it go. You've never been in New Orleans. I'm not getting a haircut. It's going to be. We're only there for a couple days, but things are going to go sideways real fast.
Andy Reid
And if you have over part five.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, listen, I, I, I can't believe. We'll go out, we'll chop it up.
Andy Reid
You'Ll hang with me. I know you got a lot of other very important.
Colin Cowherd
I don't. I have a party on Wednesday. You're invited to the Volume party.
Andy Reid
I'm aware of it, yes. All managers dress code for that. Or can I just. Tank top appropriately?
Colin Cowherd
No visors. No tank tops. Visors.
Andy Reid
I don't own a visor.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I used to wear visors. Then I got married and put a. I literally was like, where'd all my visors go? I couldn't find my visors. I was like, I had like 12 visors. And all of a sudden, like, several years later, I must have left them in a box. She said, no, I got rid of them.
Andy Reid
Tossed them. Yeah, yeah. Happens.
Colin Cowherd
Your wife probably should do that to the tank tops.
Andy Reid
Not happening, buddy.
Colin Cowherd
The. You know, I was thinking about this. Whenever somebody gets a job, it's not just what they do at the new place, it's what happens to the old place. And I'm going to talk about that in 10 minutes. But first, I got to give you a couple numbers on Andy Reid. So we know that Andy Reid off a buy is successful. Andy is 33 and 7 after a buy. The Chiefs are. Since he's been there that, I mean, that, that I, I'm not sure if Nick Saban was that good against Citadel at Alabama, 33 and 7. He's made more playoff appearances than any coach in league history. Needs three more wins, and he's the winningest playoff coach ever. And this weekend he had one of his best poker runs, saving the best plays for the right time. And Andy Reid, coach of the Chiefs, is now joining us. Now, you're a humble guy, and so I'm going to try to, by the end of this, get you for five seconds not to be humble, but I'm not going to start there because I have to massage this a little bit to get, to get you. So I'm going to start with this one. So I compared Mahomes to mj and we all watched MJ play and he was always great. And then you'd get into these big game sevens or game sixes, and it was like, I'm not even sure Michael was listening to Phil Jackson. He just went up and Mahomes averaged four rushes a game. And then this week he's got 11. So did you coach that? Did you call that? Or was that Mahomes just doing, hey, this sudden death, I gotta make stuff happen. Because he does this Andy in games where I. He just, he's the Hulk. He just expands. Did you think he'd run 11 times?
I wasn't thinking 11 times, Colin. I mean, he. But we did have a couple things in for him so he could, he could get out there and move. He enjoys doing that during the playoffs and later in the season. So not recommended early.
So when you do a really good job of saving your special play for the perfect moment. Now, I was thinking, I was talking to a friend the other night, it was an executive in the league, and I said, I'd love to go back and look at Andy's first three or four years as a coach. Did you, when you were young, when you had that special, that big, special play, have you developed into a great poker player? Have you always been that patient? Or is that something as a coach that developed? Or did. Or did you sneak it in in the second quarter, your second year coaching because you knew you had something that was going to work? Has that developed or was that always part of you?
Well, I had a great teacher, Mike Holmgren, so he always said, you know, keep one more bullet in that gun there so that you're ready to go and you've got it down the stretch. These games are so close, so you want to make sure you, you're able to save something. I probably wasn't as patient though, when I was younger, but I was taught that at a young age.
Yeah, you guys played better against Buffalo. I thought your first drive, urgency, efficiency, you attacked. I don't know if you save your best for it, but it does feel like Buffalo brings out the best in you. When you look over that film, do you feel that?
Yeah, I would say that it's a, it's turned into a unique rivalry. I think Sean McDermott does a heck of a job up there, and that team's well coached. And so our players know that. They know they're going to get, they're going against good football team. They Got good talent and they're going to execute. They don't make a whole lot of mistakes. And so you've got to be on your A game and that, you know, we're all in this for the competition. And these players are so stinking competitive. They, I think they thrive on that. Yeah.
Yeah. So we all know that high school and college coaches, part of their job is to develop players, but it's also part of your job. But sometimes in the media and fans think, well, he's a pro player, he doesn't need development. I think it's fascinating to watch Xavier Worthy. So I watched him in college and I said, when you picked him, I said, I think he's a gadget guy. I'm not sure if he's a 12 catch guy or 12 target guy. You have developed him over the season into a volume guy. Can you take me through the process of that? And is he what you envisioned?
Yeah, probably that and a little bit more. I was lucky to have desean Jackson. So he and desean are the same body type. And sometimes you put the little guys in a certain category, but they listen. He, he, he's done everything we've asked him to do, plus a little bit more. And that's kind of where you got to go with it. Colin, some guys aren't willing to do the things that we've asked him to do. I think Hollywood has been a good example to him. Hollywood is not the biggest guy either, but he wants to do everything. And so he comes up through that room and has a good example there and, and has really just stepped up and gone. But you can be a great coach and, and teacher, but if the player is not willing to do the things and you know it's not going to work. So he's, he's so willing to do everything.
You're the best tackling team in the NFL. My buddy, John Middelkoff, former scout for the Eagles, you may know John, and John always says, this team tackles better than any team I can ever remember. Is that a Spags thing? Is it a, is it a reality that you still have physical practices? Not all teams that are talented tackle like you do. Where does that come from?
Yeah, I actually hired middle class. Anything he says good, it's the homer deal. But he, yeah, Spags does a great job. We work on it year round. So it's, he doesn't miss a beat with that. He has guys out there, they're either tackling those giant donut things or they're tackling each other. So it's, but it's, it's part of the game. I mean, you always hear that if you've played football, you've heard the coach say this game's about blocking and tackling, right? So you've got to. And that's true. You got to be able to do both or you're not going to be very successful.
Some of your best players, Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey among them, are older players. Many, you know, Veech, and you have built a really nice layering system. Excellent. Young, middle age and a couple of guys that are older. Let's take Travis Kelsey, you're developing a Noah Gray, you're developing. I had, I had theorized during the season, I said, I think they're trying to develop their receiving targets over the course of a season. They'll get the Travis. They know what they get from Travis. Do you coach Travis a little differently just because of his age, experience? You know, when the red lights on, he'll be good. Do you, do you look at him differently than other players on your team?
Yeah, I'd probably say yes, to be honest with you, because I've been around him for so much, so long, and we've had him my whole duration here and, and drafted him and so on. So I know, I kind of know where he's at physically, mentally. I know what he can do in games and, and, and so we try to utilize him. I also know what's around him, which helps him because for a while there we were banged up a little bit and guys were trying to learn and you know, he was being double teamed and that wasn't as good for him. But Travis would be a heck of a football coach. He's able to get up there and explain things and teach these young guys exactly what he sees and feels. Not that they all have that same talent, but he's got a good feel for the game.
Years ago, I asked Pete Carroll, I was sitting in his office at USC and I said, what are you proudest about about your team? And he said, I never for this. He said, you have to play nearly perfect to beat us. He goes, we play so hard. We play so hard. Now this is where I'm going to ask you not to be humble for 10 seconds. I'll never ask you this again. This is the only time if there was a room of great coaches and they were talking about Andy Reid and they said, here's Andy's best quality. With Andy's teams, what is the thing that you want to be remembered for beyond trophies but that you're proud of and your team. And by the way, it may be players and you, but, but what matters to you beyond the win in your legacy?
Yeah, I think teaching, I think that's an important thing. Being honest with the guys, trusting the guys. I think those are all, all things I think are important. I hope I'm, I'm doing that part of it. So I would tell you that those are probably the things that, that I'd look for.
Yeah, people would call you a great teacher. So Michael Vick once told me, he said with Andy, Andy lets you be you, but he coaches around what you can do. Now you've had Mahomes now for so many years. Are you coaching Patrick differently today in big games than you did like four to five years ago?
Yes, four to five years ago he didn't have the same feel he's got for the game now and wasn't as solid with all of his surroundings there and different options. So yeah, we do it different with them now. Have a lot of trust in him and what he, what he knows and what he can do at the line of scrimmage. And he's very accurate with that. So it's definitely different.
Has he ever talked to inner out of something on the sidelines when the cameras at CBS go on and you're now it'll be at Fox when we have the cameras on you. Has he ever talked to in or out of something late?
No, but he, he'll have an idea. But normally he just goes, just call it. You know, he just wants you to call, he wants you to call what's on your mind and, and you know, he'll go run it. He doesn't get into all that. But I, I ask him like, what do you like here? I have no problem with that. Matt Nagy does a great job with that. So it's, we try to keep it as open as possible. And as you know, you're a quarterback, normally if the quarterback likes something, it's going to get done.
Yeah, the. I know you've looked at the tape of Philadelphia. It is a green wall of talent. They, they got dudes, Andy. It may be the only team you match up with all year and they have more Pro bowl kind of level players. What, when you pop that tape in all your years, what is the first thing that jumps out to you with Philadelphia?
Yeah, I tell you their skill position and their D line jumps out at you. They've got great skill. They've got a quarterback that can deal it. Their offensive line is strong. They've been banged. They were banged up a little bit, but they're strong. And then that D line and their speed on the second level, the linebacker level and the, in the back end with the secondary shows up.
Yeah.
Do you know he's done a nice job there?
He has. Do you envision how games are going to go? Do you have a sense like Buffalo? If I said to you it's going to kind of look like this, like, you came out attack dog. I mean, your first drive look felt like it was kind of scripted a little bit, but I could tell you'd seen something in the coverage. You went right after it. Do you have a sense of what games look like before they happen, or do they develop and sometimes you just sit back, watch it develop and call it as it goes.
Normally this time of the year, Colin, you have a pretty good idea what teams are doing. They have a pretty good idea of what you're doing. And it allows, really, it allows your guys to go out and play and play fast. And so I'm always telling the guys that every step you take in the playoffs, the games get a little faster. Well, that's why, you know, it's not just an effort thing. It's that you've mastered kind of all these different schemes that we've got in and, and, and you can play fast and it's, it goes that way, both sides and special teams.
Yeah. I did a story at essay this week and I said, I, I, I hope you don't retire. I mean, I cannot imagine retirement, even if you love golf, is nearly this fun. Do you ever take a breath and go, damn, this is fun. This is, this is a good time?
Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I love doing what I'm doing. And so how many guys have an opportunity. There are 32 of us in the whole world and that have an opportunity to do this. And then I'm around these kids, so I'm getting older, losing my hair, no red hair left. And I go out there and I'm with a group of guys that are somewhere between 22 and 35 every day, and they bring all this energy. So. And if you're limping, they're going to get out to you and make fun of you, you know, so I've got to try to stand up straight and go right and do my thing.
It is great to see you. You look great. And I'm so, I know you gave us 10 minutes and you're busy as heck. And I appreciate it, Coach.
I appreciate you calling you the best man. Thank you.
Andy Reid, coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. How can you root against Andy Reid? How about that guy? Listen to this. Three more playoff wins and he's tied with Belichick all time. And it felt like Belichick had Brady for 40 years. He just starting this Mahomes thing. It just starting. They're really you. I would argue this year is the best version of kind of the. Not statistically, but I do feel when I watch that game Sunday, I really felt like, man, Andy and Mahomes it is. You get to a point, it feels a little magical. It's a little Phil MJ where in those big spots, they both loved each other, they both trusted each other. They weren't competing. You know, when you, when you get a relationship and it starts and Andy's got to teach him how to do things and you know, a great athlete may push back a little now it's just like they both trust each other. They. They both know they're in it for each other. And you're just watching some magical happen.
Andy Reid
Yeah, I remember their first, that first huge playoff game against Tom Brady at Arrowhead.
Colin Cowherd
Remember why?
Andy Reid
And I was rooting Chiefs heavily in that game, you know, because I didn't like the Patriots as a Jets fan. And now I find myself rooting against the Chiefs, whereas I, I'm just.
Colin Cowherd
But you know what?
Andy Reid
It is real, Colin. Those first two years with Mahomes and Hill, they were amazing. They were an incredible watch. They were 35 a game.
Colin Cowherd
They weren't nearly as good defensively.
Andy Reid
No. But they were fun to watch offensively for a non Chiefs fan.
Colin Cowherd
I remember. Do you remember the day they traded Tyreek Hill and people freaked out. Oh, it's over. And I, I don't. We should go find. What I said that day, my hair wasn't as gray, but I remember saying, guys, if you get five draft picks, five or six draft picks for a receiver and they're good picks, you take it. You abbed now. Now at any time you have a divorce, you have to realize the other person will succeed. When the, when the Colts let go of Peyton Manning, he was going to go to Denver and win. But it was the time because Andrew Luck was available. If Andrew Luck's not draftable, they may not make the move. So anytime you make. Like if Miami moves Jimmy Butler, well, he's going to go to Golden State or wherever he goes, he will succeed. He'll probably go to a better team that has draft picks and players they can get back. Right? So Anytime you get a divorce, and it could be just man and woman divorce or a team divorce, you have to come to terms with the person you're letting go is going to succeed. Philadelphia knew when they let Andy go, they didn't think he was going to go and stink. They knew hopefully he goes to the afc. They wanted him out of their conference. So you just have to come to terms with, okay, I'm getting divorced. She, he, they're going to find somebody else.
Andy Reid
And so who's a better coach in the Super Bowl?
Colin Cowherd
The Patriots never scored touchdowns with Tom Brady in the first quarter. Belichick's belief in the. I always felt Belichick, the first quarter, he would feel you out, right? He would feel you out. Now he discombobulated McVeigh and the Rams offense completely, but he would feel you out. I don't think Andy's a feel out guy. I watched that first Buffalo series like Andy is an attack man emoji.
Andy Reid
He's going to be attacking the Eagles. We get that. So the Chiefs have the better coach, obviously, and the better quarterback and the best coordinator. So why would anybody pick the Eagles here?
Colin Cowherd
Because the Eagles have a better O line D land combination. And I like the Chiefs D line. When, when you have a great I, I look at, I look at O lines like bullpens. You do not have to have great starting pitching. If you've got an elite setup guy and two guys in the back end and I can't score on you, seventh inning on. I don't need to have Verlander in his prime or Kershawn is prime. When you have an O line as good as Philadelphia, Jalen Hurts doesn't have to be Mahomes. He doesn't have to be that, that old life. Just like Jared Goff. I mean, Jared Goff, when you get him off his spot, he's not great. How often is he off his spot? So we talk about. It's very Joe Burrow. Getting the Bengals to the super bowl with that O line is one of the most underrated accomplishments ever. They had to win all road games. Yeah, they had a bad O line and they got to a Super bowl and a play from a play or two from winning. That's when you know Burrow special.
Andy Reid
But the offensive line blew up at the most integral point of the super bowl. At the very end, Aaron Donald just wrecking.
Colin Cowherd
Well, when, when did Mahomes get blown out? What playoff game did Mahomes get blown out? The one he was missing both tackles. So you cannot Overcome a battle line now Kansas City's own line because Humphrey's the best center in the game and Joe Tooney may be the most underrated offensive lineman ever. Dude, they moved the guy to left tackle. Now he's elite at left. I mean he's elite everywhere. Tooney's great.
Andy Reid
I know you had a hot take Monday that the Eagles may not get to the red zone. That went viral. I know you were joking obviously, but do you have a score yet for the gamers are too early in the process.
Colin Cowherd
You know how I did bills chiefs 28, 27. I think it feels. I think it feels a little higher.
Andy Reid
Scoring higher than 28.
Colin Cowherd
I think. I think it feels 3,127 Kansas City.
Andy Reid
So you go. You go favorite and over or square bet.
Colin Cowherd
I told you I did not think. I'm watching. Philadelphia hammer Washington and my take in the middle of that game was Buffalo is not beating this team. There's no way Buffalo could stop the running game. Kansas City will stop Philadelphia's run. Enough. Enough. They won't completely blanket it. They'll slow it down enough in my opinion to win. You. You.
Andy Reid
I'm waiting to see what they deal to Saquon Barkley. His rushing prop was like 130 against Washington and of course it hit under because they were up by a billion. I'm curious what the number is for Saquon. Like do you think they'll set it over 100 yards? I mean he had an unbelievable season. I. I think you're overrating the Chiefs run defense a little bit, Colin.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, I don't think it's been great this year, but I think they played differently in big spots. They just rise spags with two weeks. They just, they're just when you have the best coach and the best coordinator and I've got two weeks. I mean remember how how high flying golf and the Rams were and they got to the super bowl, they couldn't move the ball. It couldn't get first downs at three points. Right. I think 16 to three is probably the most boring super bowl of all time. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app search heard to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. You can count on T mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T mobile, keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com heap and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device, credit service port in 90 plus stays with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. I'm somebody that likes to experiment with food. My son, my daughter are the same thing. But even when I go to get a traditional meal like steaks, the best chefs know that grass fed grain finished beef delivers an exquisite marbling that produces rich steakhouse flavor you crave even with steaks. Keep your eye on it. With all the football this weekend, it was a great time to bust open my Omaha Steaks assortment. Pack air Chilled boneless chicken breasts, ribeye and steak burgers Gourmet jumbo franks. They're great butcher's cut top sirloins, Steakhouse fries and for dessert, caramel apple tartlets. Football plus Omaha Steaks it doesn't get better than this. Every bite at Omaha Steaks is backed by their 100% guarantee, and now's the perfect time to shop during the Omaha Steaks Big Yum event@omaha steaks.com plus get an extra 20 bucks off. Use the promo code herdherd at Checkout. Winter is a perfect time to indulge in classic comfort foods, but it's also a great time to discover something new. And during the Omaha Steak Big Yum event, you can do that. They offer unrivaled quality and variety, and every bite is backed by their 100% guarantee. Every steak is extra aged to maximize tenderness and hand cut by master butchers in America's heartland, the fan favorite Filet Mignon has earned the coveted distinction of USDA certified tender. Five generations of uncompromising quality dating back to 1917 bring home the world's best steak experience with Omaha Steaks. Visit Omaha Steaks.com, save in your favorites and discover something new during their Big Yum event. And for an extra $20 off, use the promo code herdherd at checkout. That's omahasteaks.com an extra $20 off with the promo code herdherd at checkout. If you love iPhone, you'll love Apple Card. It comes with the privacy and security you expect from Apple. Plus, you earn up to 3% daily cash back on every purchase, which can automatically earn interest when you open a High Yield Savings account through Apple Card. Apply for Apple Card in the Wallet app subject to credit approval. Savings is available to Apple Card owners subject to eligibility.
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So I, I, I was thinking about this. J. Mack. Kellen Moore interviewed on Monday for the Saints. Everybody hired their coach except the Saints. So they, they have to be waiting for Kellen Moore. Otherwise, what are you waiting for? It's, it's, you're getting the, I mean, let's just be honest about the Saints, you NFL owners, when you go cheap on mattresses or coaches, you will not sleep well. Jim Harbaugh left San Francisco. What happened? It was a disaster. Sean Payton leaves New Orleans. They've ham and egged it. You know what they are against playoff teams since he left? 3 and 20. 54 million over the cap. And now they don't have a coach and are going to get scraps. In terms of a staff like Judge, USC has never been as good since Pete Carroll left. They've never had a defense that even looks like the USC defenses. Jimmy Johnson 29 years ago left the Cowboys. They've never met. They've gone cheap on coaches like, you just can't go cheap on mattresses and coaches. You won't sleep well. You owners. The Spanos family finally figured it out. They're like, let's just go get Jim Harbaugh. Literally 32nd defense to first, same players. And so when you, when you look at Sean Payton, could rub people the wrong Way they were the Ain't before he got there. They were the. A lot of you don't remember this. They were the laughing stock of the league. I mean, I don't even know there's nobody as bad as they were. Carolina at least has a quarterback and a coach we like. They had nobody. He arrived first year, not only a winning record. I think they got to the NFC Championship. I know they got to the playoffs first year and they had a couple years when they pulled back a little, but basically with Sean Payton, they were always super bowl viable. He leaves, they're a mess again. Three and 20 against playoff teams, a ton over the cap. Don't have a coach, just the Bulls. Never recovered from Phil Jackson. Never recovered. Still haven't recovered. Just don't leave the best to somebody else. Just, just, just sign him. I know it's painful, but I mean, the New York Giants, four head coaches in two winning seasons since Tom Coughlin left. I mean, it's the Saints, don't they. They feel like they're much closer to the ain't than they are to the Chiefs or Eagles. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no.
Andy Reid
Turn on the news.
Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
Andy Reid
All right, let's start with Mahomes looking to get his fourth career Super Bowl. This is his fifth appearance. The Chiefs take on the Eagles next Sunday on fox. With a win, he would just be three shy of Tom Brady's seven rings. And of course, this means the goat debate. And Julian Edelman, friend of the show, has weighed in on the debate, the arguments getting closer.
Colin Cowherd
I mean, if he goes out in three peaks, it's going to get closer. But I think that the differential, the difference is Tom had three different hall of Fame careers.
Andy Reid
We haven't seen any crazy adversity for.
Colin Cowherd
This Kansas City Chiefs team. There's going to be a time where Travis ain't there. There's going to be a time where Chris Jones ain't going to be there. And then I think that's when you start evaluating Patrick on, on if he's going to get to where Tom's at, but he's well on his way. Brady will always have something over Mahomes. He beat him head to head at Arrowhead. He crushed him in a Super Bowl. Mahomes can never do that to Tom. And Tom also left a great coach, first year, won a Super bowl in Tampa. So there, there are certain things that can never be erased from this argument. Tom beat him in Arrowhead, scored. Didn't even leave him a Chance for the ball crushed him in the Super Bowl.
Andy Reid
Yeah, well, the rules have changed since that now, by the way, if you want a classic game. Oh, my gosh. How good was that game? I can still remember where I was. Brady versus Mahomes in Arrowhead, that playoff game, because remember, they totally shut down Tyreek Hill. Belichick cooked up some amazing stuff.
Colin Cowherd
Remember the first half, though, it looked like, if you recall, Kansas City got.
Andy Reid
Off to the big start today, but that had overtime. Like, I, I can't really. Mahomes still has like at least. What is he, 29? Got like at least five more years.
Colin Cowherd
But seven, he'll never. 10. He'll never roast Brady in a Super Bowl. He'll never beat Tom.
Andy Reid
Does he, does he need to?
Colin Cowherd
I, I think those are things that Tom will always have. And I also think we have to credit Tom for going to Tampa and winning. First year, that team was 7 and 5. After 12 games, he's screaming at guys in Chicago. Brady. I think Edelman. Brady has three careers and crushed in all of them.
Andy Reid
Yeah. So what are you saying? Brady cannot be topped?
Colin Cowherd
No. I mean, if he won 12 Super Bowls. But what I'm saying is there are things built into the, that rivalry that there's nothing Tom, there's nothing Mahomes can do to surpass. Because I think Mahomes will end his career in Kansas City. I think Andy's got like four more years left and I. And I think Andy will hit about 70 and be done. And I think Mahomes will probably get one more coach in Kansas City. And then at some point, because the players now make so much money that Mahomes doesn't need to go to the Chargers or the Saints or he'll. He'll pack it in. He's got a big life.
Andy Reid
We built out a first seven seasons as a starter, Mahomes versus Brady. And that's a little unfair because Brady was a game manager.
Colin Cowherd
He was the sixth round pick.
Andy Reid
Yeah. I mean, look, Mahomes hasn't. But again, yeah, I don't. You know, it is interesting. Mahomes, the first seven seasons he's played like this is.
Colin Cowherd
By the way.
Andy Reid
By the way, that's a career for 99% of quarterbacks.
Colin Cowherd
So you're looking at Brady and Mahomes for the television audience. I apologize, there's a lot of numbers on the screen for the radio audience. But the Brady Mahomes, your initial belief, if you wouldn't have seen these numbers, would have been, oh, Mahomes is way up here. And Brady's down here. It took a while for Brady to get cooking. No, actually, when you look at it, Brady and Mahomes are almost dead, even through seven years. And what was remarkable about Tom is he got better after this.
Andy Reid
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
So you would have thought, if you would have told me for seven seasons, 90% of our audience would have thought, yeah, Mahomes is crushing him in the first seven. And as great as Mahomes and Reid are, this tells you Tom was a lot better early than anybody wants to admit.
Andy Reid
Well, that goes to Edelman's point about different careers because Brady was a game manager just handing the ball off dink and dunk early.
Colin Cowherd
His first Super Bowl, Tom was doing more than managing, but he was largely. I think that first super bowl was Tom, we're going to ask you to make about five, six big plays. But this defense, special teams and coaching is better than the rest of the league.
Andy Reid
All the clutch throws.
Colin Cowherd
But then I thought by the next year and the year after that, Tom had asserted himself as.
Andy Reid
I don't know. Again, you probably remember this better that I was still a bit of a young guy being an idiot in New York City. I wasn't as locked in all 17 weeks as I am now. I remember Brady officially making the jump when he got Randy Moss. That's when it was like, oh, my gosh, no, no, look at Brady. I mean, he had already won a bunch.
Colin Cowherd
He was great before that. He broke records with Randy.
Andy Reid
Right.
Colin Cowherd
But he was great before.
Andy Reid
He was great before that. But that's when he was like, you know what?
Colin Cowherd
I remember some of my first memories of Brady because there were a lot of great quarterbacks when he broke into the league. There were a lot of guys. One of the first memories of him was I thought he was. He threw such a good ball in crappy weather games because nobody ever thought because Brady, the pictures had come out that he wasn't that impressive physically in the combine. Like that stuff's like 30 years old, 40 times.
Andy Reid
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Colin Cowherd
And I remember always thinking, nobody ever mentioned Brady as having a great arm. That was never discussed. There were so many other guys in the league. And I remember always watching crappy weather games in Foxborough, like in December, and I'd be like, dude, his ball cuts through wind. I mean, I lived out there for a while, but I don't know, it just. That was one of my first memories was this dude's bigger with a way better arm than he gets credit for because he wasn't an ad libber. He's not like Cam Newton rolling right, throwing it 70 yards. Everything was from the pocket. It was designed and they did a lot. Lot of stuff that was underneath. Bubble screens. They were ahead of the curve a little bit. They were creative. They didn't rely on Moss. Was the first time you saw Tom's arm strength, like, oh, they're going deep a lot. But that was one of my first impressions, was he was more physically gifted than people gave him credit.
Andy Reid
I feel like this is going to be a Jordan LeBron debate that's going to span decades.
Colin Cowherd
Who.
Andy Reid
Who do you think's the goat, Brady or Mahomes? And it isn't just stacking stats and accolades. If there's more. More than that as there is with Jordan versus LeBron. Next up is the New York Giants. Colin, they got the third overall pick in the draft. Obviously need a quarterback because Daniel Jones is not there anymore. There is no guarantee a top quarterback will be there at 3. Now, we talked about Daniel Jeremiah's mock earlier. He claims there will be a quarterback there. We'll see. Titans and Browns are taking the top two picks. GM Joe Shane of the Giants says they're open to anything and that he knows we're going to get a good player at 3. Do you think they land a quarterback, Colin? Because if they don't, we can already start doing a coaching search for the New York Giants.
Colin Cowherd
Giants are taking a quarterback. Next issue. Now, if Sam Darnold would have never played in New York, I think they'd go after him. But he has. It didn't work. They won't. Even though it was another team, they won't.
Andy Reid
Final story. Now this, you know, again, I'm. I'm driving into work and I'm cooking up trade ideas for De'Aaron Fox. I'm like, oh, cowherd's probably gonna have stuff. This is interesting as hell, man. So the Kings are expected to open talks and trade their star point guard, their best player. Sorry, it's a bonus. Fox has one year left on his deal and indications are he is not gonna sign long term in Sacramento. Now, Fox is a tremendous talent. He only has one playoff appearance at tough loss to the Warriors. He's one all NBA guy, one all star appearance. He's Repp by Clutch Sports and Rich Paul. And everybody knows that that's going to instantly draw the Lakers in. There is a reporter who says the Lakers are not an option. And Dearn Fox reportedly wants to play with Victor Wembanyama.
Colin Cowherd
Don't blame him at all. In San Antonio, I Don't blame him at all. Who would you want to play with? If I could have started, I would probably say LeBron. Oh, give me a break.
Andy Reid
And now the best player in the history of the sport. Yeah, I would take a chance playing with him and then maybe get J.J. reddick going.
Colin Cowherd
Hey, we got to sit you tonight. Bronnie needs some minutes.
Andy Reid
I thought you weren't going to talk about that guy.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, you're right. So let me ask.
Andy Reid
I'm going to give you a sleeper. The air Fox is from Houston. Okay.
Colin Cowherd
They're good.
Andy Reid
Houston Rockets are number two in the west.
Colin Cowherd
They need, they've got a lot of pieces, but they need, they need. Now that's a good call because Houston could make a move with anybody because they got so many good young players and picks.
Andy Reid
And then the other sleeper, you ready? Miami Heat, who have Bam Adebayo, who played with Darren Fox.
Colin Cowherd
Can you imagine Jimmy Butler getting shipped to Sacktown?
Andy Reid
Well, he's not going to accept that.
Colin Cowherd
He's not going to do that. I don't think the Houston wants him though. I'd be careful about that. I don't know.
Andy Reid
Well, we'll see. They're very good, but if they lose in the first or second round, hey, we don't have a superstar. I think Fox is a superstar. I don't know where you land on that. I just love his game, his demeanor. He's like a hero in Sacramento. Good guy in the community. Just an all over.
Colin Cowherd
Everybody likes the smart, thoughtful guy.
Andy Reid
Yeah. Young, in his prime. I, I mean if the Lakers can get him, I, I would consider parting with, with my guys.
Colin Cowherd
Why would he want to go to. What do the LA Lakers have to get him?
Andy Reid
Well, Austin Reeves in picks and Rui Hachimura.
Colin Cowherd
You make. You always think the Lakers talent is so much better than it is. Oh God. Everybody's looking for Dalton connect. Could he defend that? Last night he went, oh, he can score. Dalton can score. He can shoot. He almost had an interesting alley oop. I watched the whole game.
Andy Reid
He's a bucket. I like that. Listen, I like the Lakers in the West.
Colin Cowherd
You know why you like the Lakers?
Andy Reid
Please tell me.
Colin Cowherd
Nobody plays defense.
Andy Reid
Oh, geez. I'm a lockdown defender.
Colin Cowherd
DJs. Yeah, yeah. And the other thing is Fox needs the ball.
Andy Reid
He does.
Colin Cowherd
Okay. He needs to run the offense. The Lakers tried that once. Do you remember that? With Westbrook?
Andy Reid
Oh, please, don't compare Russell Westbrook to Dier.
Colin Cowherd
No, I'm on. But, but, but by the way, both are Westbrook's getting into the hall of Fame.
Andy Reid
Oh, he's a lot.
Colin Cowherd
LeBron isn't necessarily great with a guy that needs the ball in his hands.
Andy Reid
That's a fair point.
Colin Cowherd
So you, you have, you go ahead.
Andy Reid
Take more shots at the Lakers.
Colin Cowherd
Honestly, you think you're gonna get Fox for Austin Reeves and a bunch of second round picks?
Andy Reid
No, no, they got, they got one more first round pick and then Rui Hachimura, who's in high demand around who, the Japanese who Just let me cook. Okay, Come on.
Colin Cowherd
No, I mean, I've never talked to a GM in the NBA at lunch and they say, let me tell you, the first thing I want to say is Rui Hachimura, we are all in. He's a throw in piece in a trade. He's fine, but he's a throw in piece. I'm coming off as negative guy today. That's not who I am.
Andy Reid
Very negative on the. You've been talking to Barkley. Is that who one of your dinner mates are? Is a guy who just takes shots at the Lakers left and right?
Colin Cowherd
I don't take shots at them. But you've overvalued their talent. So the only guy here.
Andy Reid
You're down here?
Colin Cowherd
No, the only guy I love is Anthony Davis. You don't like him?
I like him.
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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Stars. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.
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There was something sentimental when you, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?
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I don't like the color edition.
Colin Cowherd
It's extremely pink.
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Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Katie Couric
Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch, and I'm exhausted. But turns out the end is near. Right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an Oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha bee, Roy Wood Jr. And Charlamagne tha God. We're gonna take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Colin Cowherd
It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters, and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey. Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate. And JSB is the name of the podcast, and it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do. Provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb starting on February 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, I was thinking about this. Woody Johnson owns the jets, and he was talking about this yesterday that he needs to be a better owner. And he does. This is. I don't think this is a coincidence. I think the NFL succeeds in places that care. I think it succeeds in Baltimore, Kansas City, Green Bay. They care. I think San Francisco cares. Philadelphia is a big city, but the Eagles are never lost. They are front page. And I remember going to a Super bowl in New York one time, and you couldn't tell. You didn't see any super bowl hats. The Seahawks were in it because I had friends from where I grew up in my small town in the coast of Washington were there, the Jones family. And I remember saying, oh, such a bummer you're going to this Super Bowl. Because usually you go to a city and they like New Orleans. Orleans. You will know how important the Saints are and how important pro football is to the community. You will feel it. But both New York teams in the last eight years have the two worst records, the two worst point differentials, and the two worst offenses. It's pathetic. Now in baseball, it feels like the city cares. The Yankees matter. The Mets, as futile as they are, they matter a lot in the NBA. Michael Jordan and Kobe often save their greatest performances for playing at the Garden. And Minnesota went into the Garden recently, put on a show. All the celebrities in the first couple of rows. New York feels special for basketball, it feels special. For baseball, it doesn't. I was telling J. Mac during the break, if I was a free agent, I wouldn't even consider New York. It just doesn't feel big. The stadium, MetLife, which has no life. MetLife's over in Jersey in a weird sort of entertainment stadium venue that's cold and windy and not memorable. And it's just, it's. It's. It's funny. I don't think it's a coincidence. Usually New York teams get it right because they have such advantages financially. I mean, the Yankees, you know, they had a down year this year. They made the World Series. The Mets, eventually, they find Steve Cohen. They get some owner Will Pawns out. Cohen in. They got big money. It matters to New York, and I think there's some loyal fans. But I've never been in New York and felt like, yeah, as a football city, I. It's just. It's remarkable. It's cold, it's expensive. It feels like a baseball, NBA city. They're poorly run. They're. They're poorly owned. They've been mostly poorly coached. And here, here's Woody Johnson talk, you know, he says he's got to be a better owner.
Andy Reid
Absolutely.
Colin Cowherd
I have to look in the mirror and write, and I have to be a better, better writer. There was a lot of exaggeration, hyperbole, you know, There really was. Yeah. Yeah. You really have to take all that stuff in the grandest psalms because you don't know how. Nobody knows how involved. Yes, I. I want Aaron Glenn to coach the team. I want.
Andy Reid
I want the general manager to manage the.
Colin Cowherd
The assets and the players. And I'll be. I'll take the owner's position. But it's interesting because LA is a huge city, but so far is a palace. We've got two unbelievable all time coaches. Game days are amazing because the winter weather is, you know, it's incredible out Mediterranean, but it's, you know, I don't know. Is Brick Johnson gonna make some changes in the front office, their kids? Am I picking on kids today? Is that what I'm doing? Is that the show today? Is that the theme today on the show? But it's funny, you and I were talking during the break is if I was a free agent. There's nothing attractive about New York. I gotta. I gotta go live in Jersey. The weather's bad in the winter.
Andy Reid
Well, that's. Excuse me, you're hyping Chicago as a destination. The weather in Chicago is way worse than the winter.
Colin Cowherd
But that city loves its pro football.
Andy Reid
True. But listen, man, if you're 25 years old and making a million dollars a year living in New York City, it doesn't get much better than that. Now, I know a lot of the jets players live in Jersey. To avoid the distractions, you have to. Yeah. So you could talk to Sanchez about that and Sam Darnold.
Colin Cowherd
That's where the facilities at. That's where the stadium. That's how you act like, oh, I'm in New York. You live in Jersey life. But stadiums there, the practice facilities there, that's where everybody lives.
Andy Reid
True. But in the winter when it's crappy, you're playing football and locked in not going out as much in the spring in New York City. Oh, my goodness. There may not be a better city in America than New York City in the spring. It is unbelievable.
Colin Cowherd
You live in L. A in the spring. You go to the beach in New York in the spring. Yeah. Maybe you go playing volleyball in Manhattan beach in the spring in New York. I just want to listen. All right. No, but I mean, seriously, you talk about, oh, it's New York. The stadiums in Jersey.
Andy Reid
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Practice facilities in Jersey. All the players live in Jersey. That's not a New York life.
Andy Reid
So my first job at a. Out of college was working at a newspaper in Jersey, like nine miles from the GW Bridge. And I hated life. I lived in Jersey.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Andy Reid
This place called Hackensack.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah. Well.
Andy Reid
And I would just go into the city every weekend and it was amazing. And I was like, I got to get to the city. Finally I get into the city and I couldn't afford it. So I was like living off credit cards, which was not smart. But then I Met a girl who was able to carry me. Now she's a wife. But bottom line is, you need to get into the city. I don't think living in Jersey makes sense as a player for you.
Colin Cowherd
Weekends were off for you. For a pro athlete, that's when they were.
Andy Reid
I know. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Tuesday in New York City is not worth me taking a deal with.
Andy Reid
Well, that's when the models go out. The bars and the lounges popping on.
Colin Cowherd
I know. Last eight years, this is the bottom of the league.
Andy Reid
That's a fact.
Colin Cowherd
Yes. That's not even arguable. I. I just. I don't think there's any mystique or allure to New York. You're living in Jersey. You're playing in Jersey.
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What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? And you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Yeah, Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB starting on February 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? It's Justin Penic from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week. On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and you will be glad you did.
Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 2: Andy Reid Release Date: January 29, 2025
In the second hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," host Colin Cowherd engages in an in-depth conversation with Andy Reid, the esteemed head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. This episode delves into Reid's coaching philosophy, player development strategies, the Chiefs' team dynamics, and broader NFL insights, providing listeners with a comprehensive look into what makes Reid and his team so successful.
Colin Cowherd opens the hour by welcoming Andy Reid to the show, emphasizing Reid's impressive coaching record with the Chiefs:
“Andy is 33 and 7 after a buy. He’s made more playoff appearances than any coach in league history. Needs three more wins, and he's the winningest playoff coach ever.”
— Colin Cowherd [03:00]
Andy Reid discusses his strategic approach to coaching, particularly his philosophy of saving special plays for critical moments in games. He attributes much of his wisdom to his mentor, Mike Holmgren:
“He always said, you know, keep one more bullet in that gun there so that you're ready to go and you've got it down the stretch.”
— Andy Reid [06:21]
Reid reflects on his growth as a coach, acknowledging that his patience and strategic planning have evolved over time, enabling him to make pivotal plays when they matter most.
A significant portion of the conversation centers around the development of key players like Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. Reid highlights Mahomes' growth from a promising quarterback to a formidable leader on the field:
“We did have a couple things in for him so that he could get out there and move. He enjoys doing that during the playoffs and later in the season.”
— Andy Reid [05:40]
Regarding Travis Kelsey, Reid praises his versatility and leadership:
“He's able to get up there and explain things and teach these young guys exactly what he sees and feels. He's got a good feel for the game.”
— Andy Reid [10:30]
Reid emphasizes the importance of having experienced players who can mentor younger talent, fostering a culture of continuous improvement and teamwork.
Discussing the Chiefs' defense, Reid credits defensive coordinator Spaggs for maintaining the team’s tackling excellence:
“We work on it year-round. So it's, he doesn't miss a beat with that. He has guys out there, they're either tackling those giant donut things or they're tackling each other.”
— Andy Reid [09:10]
He also touches upon the balanced composition of the Chiefs' roster, blending seasoned veterans with emerging talent to create a formidable and adaptable team.
A pivotal segment of the discussion revolves around the ongoing debate about whether Patrick Mahomes can surpass Tom Brady as the greatest quarterback of all time (GOAT). Reid defends Brady's legacy while acknowledging Mahomes' exceptional talent:
“Brady will always have something over Mahomes. He beat him head to head at Arrowhead. He crushed him in a Super Bowl.”
— Colin Cowherd [32:14]
Andy Reid shares his perspective on how Mahomes is still building his legacy, noting that Mahomes hasn't yet faced the same level of adversity that Brady has encountered throughout his career:
“We've built out a first seven seasons as a starter, Mahomes versus Brady. And that's a little unfair because Brady was a game manager.”
— Andy Reid [33:07]
The conversation highlights the nuances of their careers, including coaching dynamics, team support, and individual performances, painting a comprehensive picture of both quarterbacks' impacts on the sport.
Reid elaborates on the Chiefs' playoff strategies, emphasizing the importance of mastering various schemes and maintaining a fast-paced game during high-stakes matches:
“Every step you take in the playoffs, the games get a little faster. Well, that's why, you know, it's not just an effort thing. It's that you've mastered kind of all these different schemes that we've got in and, and, and you can play fast and it goes that way, both sides and special teams.”
— Andy Reid [15:24]
He expresses unwavering enthusiasm for the team's prospects, citing their robust offensive and defensive units as key factors in their postseason success.
The dialogue transitions to broader topics, including team culture, ownership, and comparisons with other NFL franchises. Reid underscores the importance of trust and honesty within the team:
“Being honest with the guys, trusting the guys. I think those are all, all things I think are important.”
— Andy Reid [12:10]
He also reflects on the challenges and successes of managing a team in a competitive league, highlighting the unique rivalry with teams like Buffalo and Philadelphia.
As the conversation winds down, Reid shares personal anecdotes about his experiences in New York and reflections on team ownership and management. He emphasizes the significance of being deeply involved with the team’s operations and maintaining a strong presence within the community:
“I was rooting Chiefs heavily in that game because I didn’t like the Patriots as a Jets fan.”
— Andy Reid [18:08]
Reid discusses the importance of maintaining a competitive edge and fostering a passionate fan base, critiquing the lackluster performance of New York teams and highlighting the contrasts in team management philosophies.
In the closing moments, Colin Cowherd and Andy Reid recap key points from their conversation, reinforcing Reid's pivotal role in the Chiefs' success and his enduring legacy in the NFL:
“You can’t go cheap on mattresses and coaches. You won’t sleep well.”
— Colin Cowherd [30:20]
This episode of "The Herd" offers a deep dive into Andy Reid's exceptional coaching career, his strategies for player development, and his insights into NFL dynamics. Through candid discussions and thoughtful analysis, Reid and Cowherd explore what sets the Kansas City Chiefs apart, the evolving legacy of Patrick Mahomes, and the enduring debate surrounding the greatest quarterbacks in football history. Listeners gain valuable perspectives on leadership, team management, and the intricacies of navigating a championship-contending team in the highly competitive landscape of the NFL.