Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – "Hour 2 - Colin Right / Colin Wrong"

Release Date: June 9, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Co-Hosts: Matt Hasselbeck and J. Mac
Produced By: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

1. NFL Minicamps and Player Evaluations

Timestamp: [03:00 - 04:38]

The episode kicks off with Matt Hasselbeck discussing the upcoming NFL minicamps, emphasizing their importance for veteran players and rookies alike. He specifically highlights the Cleveland Browns and expresses skepticism about the potential of their quarterback, Shedeur.

Matt Hasselbeck [03:15]: "Everybody makes bets. You can sit on the fence on this. My bet is Shedeur is going to start at some point in the NFL season. There are people all over the Internet, former NFL scouts. He's going to be a bust. He can't play."

Colin Cowherd counters by suggesting there might be a middle ground, acknowledging that while doubts exist, it's premature to label Shedeur a bust.

2. Tyrese Halliburton and NBA Overrated Claims

Timestamp: [04:42 - 07:37]

The conversation shifts to the NBA, where Matt challenges the notion that Tyrese Halliburton is the "most overrated player." He defends Halliburton's performance, comparing his clutch shooting to that of Steph Curry and citing his underrated status over the past two years.

Matt Hasselbeck [04:57]: "I think he has one of the highest IQs and EQs I have seen from a modern point guard. 13 of 15 times this year under 2 minutes when he could tie or take the lead, he hit the shot. That's better than Steph Curry."

Colin then brings up Aaron Rodgers' recent signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers, expressing doubts about the fit and potential success of the veteran QB in a defensive-first organization.

3. Aaron Rodgers' Transition to the Steelers

Timestamp: [05:11 - 15:34]

Matt elaborates on his concerns regarding Aaron Rodgers joining the Steelers, questioning the team's ability to protect him and adapt offensively. He anticipates challenges due to the team's current roster and division competition.

Matt Hasselbeck [05:11]: "I thought Aaron Rodgers was too smart to sign with the Steelers because I don't think it's a good fit. They lost their left tackle, they've struggled in pass protect."

Colin disagrees, believing that Rodgers and the Steelers are a good match. He praises Steelers' head coach Mike Tomlin and offensive coordinator Arthur Smith, highlighting their adaptability and leadership.

Colin Cowherd [13:45]: "I do believe Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers is a really good fit... Arthur Smith was on staff and replaced Matt LaFleur in Tennessee when he got his first start as an offensive coordinator."

4. NFL Quarterback Development and NIL Impact on College Basketball

Timestamp: [15:34 - 22:34]

The discussion transitions to college sports, where Matt expresses concerns about the Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policies affecting European basketball academies. He predicts that American college basketball programs may outbid European academies for top talent, potentially leading to the shutdown of youth academies in Europe.

Matt Hasselbeck [08:18]: "The NIL is going to save college basketball. And Real Madrid and Barcelona reportedly are considering shutting down their youth academies in Europe."

Colin counters by discussing the development of quarterbacks like Cam Ward, emphasizing the importance of work ethic and leadership over age or experience.

5. MLB Dodgers' Pitching Woes

Timestamp: [42:32 - 49:25]

Matt shifts focus to Major League Baseball, critiquing the Dodgers' excessive spending on pitchers and their inability to keep them healthy. He questions whether the organization faces systemic issues that prevent pitchers from maintaining consistency on the mound.

Matt Hasselbeck [42:32]: "Nobody can stay healthy. The Dodgers payroll 102 million is what the Dodgers spend annually on pitchers. That is more than six team spend on their entire roster."

Colin briefly touches on the potential mental and strategic impacts of these issues on the team's performance.

6. Kevin Durant Trade Rumors and Analysis

Timestamp: [28:45 - 35:32]

A significant portion of the episode delves into rumors surrounding Kevin Durant's potential trade to the San Antonio Spurs. Matt defends Durant's longevity and skill set, arguing that his game ages well compared to other superstars.

Matt Hasselbeck [30:18]: "Kevin Durant's gonna age well because his game has never been hyper athletic. He's like Klay Thompson, but better and taller. Get me the ball late in the clock and I can dial up a three."

J. Mac challenges Matt's positive assessment, pointing out Durant's recent playoff performances and questioning his long-term impact as a team cornerstone.

J. Mac [31:10]: "He got swept in the playoffs two of his last three trips. How good are we with Kevin Durant as our alpha?"

Matt maintains his stance, emphasizing Durant's individual brilliance despite team setbacks.

7. Jordan Love and Packers-Steelers Showdown

Timestamp: [35:32 - 37:50]

The discussion returns to the NFL with a preview of the upcoming Packers vs. Steelers matchup featuring Jordan Love. Matt shares his uncertainty about Love's potential, comparing him to other young quarterbacks like Jaden Daniels.

Matt Hasselbeck [35:21]: "When you get a great athlete... I'm not sure what Jordan Love is that Jaden Daniels is this barometer of truth where you and I both, I'm higher on Jordan Love than you are."

J. Mac suggests that Colin could rank NFC quarterbacks to provide clarity, highlighting the ongoing uncertainty around Love's development.

8. College Football and Coach Bill Belichick's Personal Life

Timestamp: [38:07 - 49:05]

Colin and Matt engage in a lively debate about Bill Belichick's personal life, specifically his relationship with Jordan Hudson and its potential impact on his coaching at North Carolina. Colin argues that Hudson's influence may negatively affect Belichick's decision-making and the team's performance, citing shifts in betting trends.

Colin Cowherd [38:14]: "Herover the show was interesting the Belichick stuff is interesting... Belichick is now a puppet. She's running the show."

Matt counters by expressing skepticism about the significance of Hudson's role, maintaining that Belichick's coaching prowess remains intact despite personal distractions.

The conversation further explores the challenges of balancing NIL deals with team chemistry and performance, particularly in the competitive landscape of college football.

9. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [49:05 - End]

As the episode nears its conclusion, Matt reflects on the inconsistencies in the Dodgers' pitching staff and the broader implications for Major League Baseball. The hosts briefly touch upon upcoming sports events and tease future discussions, maintaining an engaging and dynamic atmosphere.

Notable Quotes:

• Matt Hasselbeck [04:57]: "I never bought into this. I'm not surprised they stole a game in Oklahoma City. I don't think they're as good as OKC. I don't think they'll win the series."

• Colin Cowherd [13:45]: "Aaron Rodgers needs to be adaptable to be a run-first quarterback. I think this is a good fit for a lot of reasons and kind of look out for this team."

• Matt Hasselbeck [30:18]: "Durant has three more really good 25 points a game, 24 points a game. He's a catch and shoot guy. His length, he's not getting shorter. He's a tough matchup."

• Colin Cowherd [38:41]: "She's controlling Belichick. He's now a puppet. She's running the show."

Conclusion

In this episode of "The Herd," Colin Cowherd, Matt Hasselbeck, and J. Mac navigate through a diverse range of sports topics, providing in-depth analysis and passionate opinions. From NFL quarterback performances and transitions to the impacts of NIL in college basketball, and the ongoing MLB pitching struggles, the hosts deliver a comprehensive and engaging discussion. Notably, their candid exchanges about high-profile sports figures and strategic decisions offer listeners valuable insights into the current sports landscape.

This summary captures the essence of "Hour 2 - Colin Right / Colin Wrong" from The Herd with Colin Cowherd, highlighting key discussions, insights, and notable quotes to provide a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to the episode.