Hour 2 - Fred Warner

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 2: Fred Warner Release Date: February 5, 2025

Introduction In the second hour of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, host Steve Covino and Rich Davis welcome San Francisco 49ers linebacker Fred Warner to discuss the team's season, Super Bowl preparations, and broader sports topics. The episode, recorded live from the Super Bowl 59 Media Row in New Orleans, also features former NFL star Vince Wilfork, who provides additional insights into team dynamics and player performance.

Team Performance and Season Recap Fred Warner opens the discussion with enthusiasm about being on media row, highlighting the perks such as free meals and networking opportunities. At [03:02], Warner shares, “Nothing better than eating out on the company dime,” emphasizing the camaraderie among sports professionals during Super Bowl week.

The conversation shifts to the 49ers' disappointing season. At [05:19], Warner states, “We couldn't overcome a lot of the things that we were dealt. Right. So that was the toughest part this Niner season.” This reflects the team's struggle despite high expectations and strong leadership from General Manager John Lynch and Head Coach Kyle Shanahan.

Vince Wilfork's Insights on Team Dynamics Vince Wilfork joins the conversation at [05:33], offering a veteran perspective on team resilience. He discusses the importance of focusing on football and maintaining high performance despite external pressures: “I think there's a lot of stuff out there that can kind of seep into your mind and sway the way that you think about the game... Just focus on the main thing, and that's playing football” ([07:31]).

Wilfork also praises the locker room culture, crediting Lynch and Shanahan for assembling a team of resilient players: “I don't think that, you know, our gm, John Lynch, and Kyle Shanahan, our head coach, they don't bring guys that aren't made of the right things” ([08:15]).

Super Bowl Tickets and Fan Fatigue A significant portion of the discussion centers around Super Bowl ticket sales and the phenomenon of fan fatigue, particularly among Kansas City Chiefs supporters who have appeared in multiple recent Super Bowls. At [24:14], Covino speculates, “if this super bowl was Detroit Lions, Buffalo Bills, I think you would have seen most expensive ticket, without a doubt, super bowl history,” suggesting that repeated appearances by a single team may dampen fan enthusiasm and willingness to purchase tickets.

Fred Warner adds, “Maybe just people are broke... or maybe they're just playing it safe because they're looking to the future” ([27:29]). The hosts debate whether the Chiefs' repeated successes have led to decreased ticket sales due to perceived entitlement or economic factors affecting fans' disposable income.

Halftime Show and Viewing Experience The episode delves into the viewing experience of the Super Bowl, particularly the halftime show and the challenges it poses for viewers seeking an undisturbed game-watching experience. At [29:00], Fred Warner criticizes interruptions during the game, stating, “It's almost disrespectful,” when discussing how some guests talk over the game instead of enjoying the halftime performances.

Covino proposes practical solutions for viewers to manage distractions: “If you want to yap the whole time, get in the kitty's room and watch over there” ([29:30]). This highlights the balance between social interactions and concentrated game-watching, especially during high-stakes events like the Super Bowl.

Sports News and Commentary Throughout the episode, Covino and Rich intersperse their conversation with brief segments on current sports news. Topics include NBA trade rumors involving Kevin Durant and Chris Middleton's trade from the Bucks to the Wizards. At [34:48], Rich reports, “Sources say Phoenix has been willing to listen to offers for Kevin Durant,” indicating potential shifts in team dynamics within the NBA.

Additionally, discussions about LeBron James and the Lakers' recent performance against the Clippers provide a broader sports context. The hosts analyze player trades, team strategies, and the implications of these developments on upcoming seasons.

Fan Engagement and Interactive Segments Covino and Rich actively engage with their audience by encouraging listeners to share their thoughts via email and social media. They introduce interactive elements such as the “#garbagemitime.players” hashtag, soliciting fan input on favorite backup and utility players across different sports.

At [50:28], they discuss the concept of "garbage time players," framing it as a compliment rather than an insult, recognizing the importance of role players who contribute significantly during crucial moments of games. This fosters a sense of community and inclusivity among listeners, inviting diverse perspectives on player contributions.

Conclusion As the episode wraps up, Covino and Rich emphasize the ongoing Super Bowl festivities and the importance of enjoying the event despite potential distractions and fan fatigue. Fred Warner and Vince Wilfork contribute valuable insights into team resilience, player performance, and the evolving landscape of professional sports.

Notable Quotes:

• Fred Warner: “Nothing better than eating out on the company dime.” ([03:02])
• Vince Wilfork: “Just focus on the main thing, and that's playing football.” ([07:31])
• Steve Covino: “...if this super bowl was Detroit Lions, Buffalo Bills, I think you would have seen most expensive ticket...” ([24:14])
• Fred Warner: “It's almost disrespectful.” ([29:13])
• Vince Wilfork: “He just is the complete right guy for the position.” ([10:08])

Final Thoughts The Herd with Colin Cowherd provides a dynamic and insightful discussion on the Super Bowl, team performances, and broader sports narratives. With contributions from Fred Warner and Vince Wilfork, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the challenges and triumphs faced by professional athletes and teams during the high-pressure environment of the Super Bowl.

Transcript

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[Steve Covino]

Now let's get this party started.

[Rich Davis]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Super.

[Steve Covino]

Bowl Week New Orleans Media Center.

[Fred Warner]

What's going on? I mean, free food? Sign me up. I love it. And as Rob Partner says, when the company pays you get fillets.

[Steve Covino]

And that's what you had last night.

[Fred Warner]

So nothing better than eating out on the company dime. And it's always great to be on media row. For Super Bowl 59. New Orleans, Covino and Rich.

[Rich Davis]

Rich.

[Fred Warner]

For Colin on the herd.

[Rich Davis]

Rich had our boss's boy.

[Steve Covino]

I did. You know, we're gonna talk about that because I think you guys are ass clowns and I'll explain why. However, no matter where you work, when the company's paying, why does the food just taste better?

[Fred Warner]

Because it's free. Yeah, that's just how it is. I love that.

[Steve Covino]

You don't even have to do the fake reach for the wallet either.

[Fred Warner]

No, that's part of it. And that's part of the scene. Again, a lot of boozing and schmoozing. A lot of events and parties leading up to the super bow.

[Steve Covino]

And as you always point out, you know, if you go to a conference for your career, you just bump into people you've met along the way. So for us it's like, hey, look.

[Fred Warner]

There'S like a reunion for the industry.

[Steve Covino]

There's Adam Shine. There's me to Kimes. There's that like, you see everyone you've worked with over the years.

[Fred Warner]

So it's Michael Bapchik. Let's kick his ass. Yeah, a lot of people you used to work with, people, you know, a lot of familiar faces that you see on tv. Actually, a lot of fun. Everyone busts out their, their new wardrobe, their new gear for, you know, super bowl week and everything. Rocking my Travis Matthew jacket. That's a nice one. You like this?

[Steve Covino]

I broke out the new Jordans yesterday. Is it safe to say that 8 out of 10 dudes in this whole convention center bought some new sneakers or shoes in the last week?

[Fred Warner]

You got. It's like the first day of school. You don't roll up to the first day of school, beat up dirty ass Air force ones. You got to bring it. That's just part of the deal. And we'll give you the play by play. We got Vince Wilfork stopping by later on the show and Fred Warner this hour, one of Rich's heroes. And a quick reminder again, we're Covino and Rich and we do this Monday through Friday on FOX Sports radio. So if you dig our show, even if you hate it, follow our podcast for free. Follow rate and review. Just search Covino and Rich. You'd hear Puka Nakua. Here's some of the interviews we had earlier this week. Covino and rich. We're on 24 from LA. So 2 to 4 on the west, 5 to 7 on the east, but always a pleasure to fill in for Colin on the Herd. So we're basically doing five hours.

[Steve Covino]

Yep.

[Fred Warner]

Of radio today. Now I gotta call Rich out as. Oh, you know what? I see Fred Warner stopping by. I'll call you out right after that.

[Steve Covino]

Save that. You know what?

[Fred Warner]

Calling you out is what I'm good at. So don't worry. I won't forget.

[Steve Covino]

Hold that thought. And you could call me out at the end of our hang with my dude, Fred Warner. Hold on. Yo, what's up, man?

[Fred Warner]

All right, let's welcome with glory.

[Steve Covino]

Dude, I'm the biggest Niners fan there is, bro.

[Fred Warner]

He is, man. Let's welcome 49ers linebacker Fred Warner to the show.

[Vince Wilfork]

All right.

[Fred Warner]

Welcome, man.

[Vince Wilfork]

Fellas.

[Fred Warner]

No, man. Thanks for stopping by. We appreciate it.

[Steve Covino]

I'll try to h my fanboyness. Listen, I tell you, as a Niners fan this season, I got to know as a player, did you feel what I felt every week where I was like, all right, next week, they win three in a row, they'll turn it around, of course, sneak into the playoffs.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah. I mean, that. That was, of course, what we all felt.

[Rich Davis]

Right.

[Vince Wilfork]

And I hate that the season ended or it even turned out how it did. Right. We've had seasons in the past where we had slow starts, Right. And we're three and five or we're on the verge of three and six, and we find a way to. To pull it off and then win out and do all these sort of things. And of course, you're yearning for that, but at the end of the day, we. We couldn't overcome a lot of the things that we were dealt. Right. So that was the toughest part this Niner season.

[Steve Covino]

A weird analogy, but we're feeling it for Colin today, and he does analogies all day. Yeah. It reminded me of Mike Tyson, Buster Douglas. The whole time you're like, oh, Tyson, just a matter of time.

[Vince Wilfork]

That's right.

[Steve Covino]

Each round went on. You're like, buster Douglas is whipping his ass.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And then eventually, like, oh, damn, Buster Douglas won every week.

[Fred Warner]

I'm like, I wasn't a big fan of this analogy. I don't know what I have to do with this in this current interview.

[Steve Covino]

But you know what? I gotta say, Fred, let's take a look at next year's schedule. I know you can't think that way, but it's pretty light.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. I mean, it's. So here's how the schedule goes. The year that we just finished, everybody's looking at the teams that we've. That we're gonna play, and we're going off of base off the past year, right?

[Steve Covino]

And that means nothing.

[Vince Wilfork]

But what happens? Like all those teams that had poor, poor seasons, they all now have the best picks to pick up the best players, and then they go in free agency and they go get more great players, and then all of a sudden they have a great year next year, and everybody's like, oh, my God, I thought this team sucked. And it's like, no. Well, they got, they got some reinforcements because nobody wants to stay at the bottom, right? And so it doesn't matter what the schedule is. I mean, I obviously, I guess you, technically you want the easiest schedule, but at the end of the day, there is no easy games because it's the NFL. Everybody, everybody's great. So you got to go out and you got to put the best product on the field every given Sunday.

[Fred Warner]

Fred Warner here on the Covino and Rich Show. Rich talked about, you know, everybody expecting the season to turn around last year, and it just never really did. So there's a lot of buzz, a lot of talking every day, social media on tv. How do you tune that out? Or does it start to weigh on you after a while?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, you.

[Fred Warner]

You.

[Colin Cowherd]

You tune it out. I think in season is especially important to kind of just keep that stuff outside of whatever you're personal things that you're allowing into your life. Right.

[Vince Wilfork]

I think there's a lot of stuff out there that can kind of seep into your mind and sway the way that you think about the game or the way that you approach the game. And I've learned throughout my young, my younger years, as I can say now, is to kind of just put all that aside, man, and just focus on the main thing, and that's playing football and preparing as hard as you can week in and week out to put the best product on the field.

[Fred Warner]

Well, you could focus on yourself, right? You're in control of that. You start to feel the tension building within the locker room, like, because you are a family of sorts. When things get tough, do you start to notice that and try to keep it calm?

[Vince Wilfork]

I think.

[Colin Cowherd]

I honestly think that we have a locker room that's made of the right type of guys. I don't think that, you know, our gm, John lynch, and Kyle Shanahan, our head coach, they don't bring guys that aren't made of the right things. And so we all stay together through all the hardships. And it has nothing to do about the pressure from the outside. If anything, we. There's more pressure from the inside because there is a standard of winning in our organization. So when it's not being upheld, then that's when you start to feel okay, like we need to right the ship. And so it was a miserable season because we didn't, we didn't do that.

[Steve Covino]

Fred Warner hanging with Kavino and Rich in for the Herd. Robert Sal, as a fan I was pumped. Who cares about what I think when you are hearing the rumors and that it happens is that your guy is at a nice reunion.

[Colin Cowherd]

Unbelievable. I can't even, I can't speak to how amazing that is right here on this, on this set because. Because of how much coach Salah means to me and my progression as a young player. I mean from the moment I got drafted to starting me as a. As a young rookie who didn't. Never played off the ball backer before.

[Vince Wilfork]

And sticking with me through the rough patches of that rookie season and me being able to ascend in this league. So I'm so grateful to him for what he's given me and now being able to have him back now in these different points in our careers is going to be unique but in such the right ways. I mean he's such a great teacher and leader of men. I'm so excited to have him back.

[Fred Warner]

And he seems like such a good dude. So what were your thoughts when you saw he was treated and what went on with the jets and everything?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, look, I don't. I don't even know exactly what went on over there. Obviously I, I can only speak to.

[Fred Warner]

You'll get scooped though.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, when I do sit down and talk with him, I'm sure I'll have a little bit more information but by then I might not be able to get back on the set with you guys. But yeah, man, I'm obviously I. I'm just excited that he is. However it all unfolded, he's back with us and so that's what makes me excited and hopeful for the future.

[Steve Covino]

Now Brock Purdy, other side of the ball. But it seems like I love how you have his back. I'm not saying it's disingenuous, but do you have to have your quarterbacks back or do you really believe in what he could deliver?

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah, no, I can. I can honestly say that if I did had a certain sort of way that I felt about a player, like I would jump around a question. Right. Like I kind of find a way to Say something nice about him when you know in reality it's probably not the right guy. Like, I don't know, how much time do we have on the set? Like, we could sit here, but at the end of the day, this is a cat that was the last pick of the draft, right? And you don't even hear about these guys who, they don't even pan out in the NFL. I want people to understand this. The last pick of the draft doesn't usually make it on a roster. This is the guy who is our franchise quarterback.

[Fred Warner]

Right.

[Vince Wilfork]

You know, and is just made of the complete right stuff and has continued to, to prove week in and week out that he is that guy. You know, he led us to a Super Bowl. Unfortunately, we didn't win that Super Bowl. But that's not his fault. It's a, it's a team game, right? He made enough plays in that, in that game to win us the game. He finished with the ball with us having more points than the other team. It was our job to stop their offense. So at the end of the day, man, he just is the complete right guy for the position. And I love him. I love the way that he competes and the way he approaches it.

[Steve Covino]

Not to throw Trey Lance onto the bus, but there were rumblings early on that even, even in like early practices, it was like, take a look at Purdy.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Purdy as the. Well, you're the third string guy and you're obviously Mr. Irrelevant Last Pick in the draft.

[Vince Wilfork]

You're not going to have a lot.

[Colin Cowherd]

Of opportunities to get out there on the practice. The times where he was getting reps was in training. Campbell, we're in the PM practice out there. No helmets, no pads.

[Steve Covino]

We're walk.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's a walkthrough. But he's out there treating it as if it was a game. And I'm like, how, like this guy is. How does he even know how to do this? Like you're a rookie. Like everything just stacked against you and he just knew exactly what to do from the moment he came on the team.

[Fred Warner]

It's kind of lame, but it's sort of the story of the ugly duckling, right? Like no one. Like he turned into a beautiful swan leading your team to victory, right?

[Vince Wilfork]

No, he's phenomenal.

[Fred Warner]

That's what he turned into.

[Steve Covino]

He's talking about Purdy's game. I want to talk about your game, but not on the field. Your wife, you met her by sliding into the dms, right?

[Vince Wilfork]

That's right.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Vince Wilfork]

I got a little. I got A little something, man. Yeah.

[Fred Warner]

So how cool is that, though? I, I, I'm imagining you're watching tv, you saw her, and you're like, I like her.

[Vince Wilfork]

Is that how it was a unique situation, but at the end of the day, yeah, I mean, I, I see her. She's gorgeous. She's beautiful. I didn't know what it was going to turn into. I, I did sign the DMs, and she somehow answered back. I didn't think she would.

[Fred Warner]

Right.

[Vince Wilfork]

And we, we met in la. This is right before COVID happened. She was there for business and got in super late. The only thing that was open was an In N Out. And we. So we went to In N Out, and we just sat there. We talked for hours. And the, the similarities within each other, it just, it was a match made in heaven.

[Fred Warner]

Wait, you met her at In N Out?

[Vince Wilfork]

Basically.

[Fred Warner]

Really?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Vince Wilfork]

That was the first. That was the first date. Yeah.

[Fred Warner]

That's wild, dude. And by the way, if you guys don't know the story, she was on Bachelor season 24. So I'm assuming you're a fan and you're just watching and you're like, you point at the tv.

[Steve Covino]

You guys are great on social media together. Honestly, like, my wife's like, they're so cute.

[Vince Wilfork]

I appreciate it, man. Thank you.

[Steve Covino]

Now, I got to ask. This whole season, you played hurt. I mean, I'm not saying that's, you know, I know everyone's a little hurt, but you were hurt.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Is this offseason going to be just the perfect rest you need to come back even stronger?

[Vince Wilfork]

Absolutely. And, you know, I hate to kind of just put this. I don't, I don't ever want to put the spotlight on myself because I know that everybody's dealing with something at some point. It was a very hard and unique season for myself because I hadn't had to push through something like that before, but I'm proud of the way that I was able to fight through it, even through the circumstances. And I'm excited.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Vince Wilfork]

To get back healthy this offseason, to ultimately get back to form going into next season.

[Fred Warner]

Are you more concerned this offseason about working on your right hook, trying to knock that ball out? Like, I don't know if that's part of the training.

[Vince Wilfork]

Now I gotta start working on my left. Yeah, that's the, that's the problem.

[Fred Warner]

Right. And are you still hitting the weights? Because when I searched Fred Warner, I was just doing some research on your stats. The first thing that come up came up was how many times could you bench? 225.

[Vince Wilfork]

Ah, yes. Yes. What did it say?

[Fred Warner]

It said 41. Is that.

[Vince Wilfork]

Wow.

[Fred Warner]

Oh, my God.

[Vince Wilfork]

That's absolutely not right.

[Fred Warner]

Do you still care about that stuff?

[Vince Wilfork]

Do you still. Yeah, not at all. I mean, I do care about the weight room, but don't get that. Let's not get that wrong. Like, the weight room is very important for ultimately performance and longevity in this league. But do I care about how many times I bench on my left? No.

[Steve Covino]

What is he, 17?

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah, those times are. Those times were good while they lasted. They weren't. But it was. You know, it was. It was part of the process, and now it's just about just being the best version of myself for Sundays.

[Steve Covino]

Fred, we had Puking the Kua here earlier.

[Vince Wilfork]

Awesome.

[Steve Covino]

And he's a good dude.

[Fred Warner]

He says hello.

[Steve Covino]

We're talking about the culture now of, like, you can't really tackle guys the way you used to. Is there such an emphasis on punching out the ball? Is that something like defensive specialists are telling you, like, we got to do this?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. I think that is for absolutely something that teams are honing in on now. It's not. It's not easy, though. You know, some guys have more of a knack for it than others. But at the end of the day, as long as you practice something, you.

[Fred Warner]

Got to hit Bag Man.

[Colin Cowherd]

You got to do it every single day. You got to practice it every day to make it. Muscle memory. And that's what I've done. I added it to my game in my second season and first game, being out there with Quan Alexander, I go and I punch a ball out.

[Vince Wilfork]

Right?

[Colin Cowherd]

And so that was just how it all unfolded.

[Fred Warner]

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[Vince Wilfork]

That's right.

[Fred Warner]

So. Yeah, tell us about it, man.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. No, listen. Experience. All about saving everybody time and money, right? And so you download the Experian app.

[Vince Wilfork]

They help you cancel all your subscriptions that you don't use, that you don't need. Everybody falls victim to it, Right?

[Steve Covino]

A lot of people pay. I was checking my bills once. I'm like, we're still paying for our peloton. Exactly.

[Vince Wilfork]

It's like, man, we don't even have a peloton anymore.

[Fred Warner]

You don't even know how to.

[Vince Wilfork]

That thing broke, like, three years ago.

[Fred Warner]

Okay.

[Vince Wilfork]

Why are we still paying for this? So, you know, we all fall victim to it, where things just go unnoticed, but they do all the heavy work, all the heavy lifting of. Of doing all that for you and saving you time and money.

[Steve Covino]

I think my mom was still paying for aol, by the way. I got to ask, which is true, because it hurt me as a fan and I hate to compare because I'm just a fan.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

I was there both times against the Chiefs. Does this make you want to see them lose? Are you pulling for the Eagles? Are you not watching some guys, Like, I don't even want to watch. Like, what's your. What's your thoughts?

[Vince Wilfork]

I'm not the cat that doesn't watch. I'm a complete fan of the game, so I'm absolutely going to be tuned in. But I, I'm not pulling for either team. I. I dislike both teams, honestly. Yeah.

[Fred Warner]

And you're. And your wife hates the Eagles fans. I heard right.

[Vince Wilfork]

Oh, well, I wouldn't say hate, but it wasn't the most. It wasn't the most cordial, you know, encounter when we went out there that one time. But yeah, I dislike both teams, so I hope they both lose.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Vince Wilfork]

You know what I'm saying? I don't know how that works, but we can, we can figure it out.

[Steve Covino]

There was that, there was that meme where it's like, who's rooting for who? And it's like meteor strike. What's the number one answer?

[Vince Wilfork]

I mean, yeah, it let the light shut out again like they did back when. Was that? When we played the Ravens.

[Fred Warner]

Oh, yeah.

[Steve Covino]

I'm 03 as a fan. Can we change this next year?

[Vince Wilfork]

Next year and Levi's?

[Steve Covino]

Come on, let's do it.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah. I got you.

[Steve Covino]

Fred, a pleasure having. You know, you got to run, but.

[Vince Wilfork]

Pleasure'S all mine, man.

[Fred Warner]

Thank you.

[Steve Covino]

Always.

[Fred Warner]

Always a pleasure to meet you.

[Vince Wilfork]

Thank you, man.

[Fred Warner]

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[Rich Davis]

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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I technically texted you and you text me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

[Steve Covino]

There was something sentimental when you. Like when you send it. Yeah, it's like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Steve Covino]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's have a lot to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you you get your podcasts.

[Justin Penick]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[Fred Warner]

Oh, yeah, it's Media row Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans. Covino and Rich in for Colin on the Herd Everything at covinoenrich. Follow our Nolan's adventures. We're posting a lot at Covino and Rich. Our IG story at Fox Sports Radio. Lots of videos on YouTube and definitely follow rate and review our podcast, Covino Enrich. We're on every day, Monday through Friday. In fact, not only are we in for the hurt today, we're still doing our regular show because, well, super bowl media rose, it's like a second home for us. We've been doing this a lot and love coming back every year. Want to keep that going. Love catching up with people.

[Rich Davis]

We got 34th year.

[Fred Warner]

All right. 155th year. Here we are.

[Steve Covino]

We're actually 70. Yeah.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah. And we got Vince Wilfork stopping by. Next hour of the Patriots, former Patriot legend, super bowl champion.

[Steve Covino]

Though what I gotta ask Vince Wilfork about. We're what, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We're four days away from Super Bowl Sunday, and my wife's at home with the kids. She hit me up, and she's like, babe, I think I want to buy a new grill and smoker to make all the appetizers for our super bowl party. And I'm like, do you think now, while I'm out of town and we're having a bunch of people come over, is that the time to experiment with new food?

[Fred Warner]

Right. Yeah, exactly. Is now the time?

[Steve Covino]

Is now the time we're going to be the family that makes pulled pork? Like, maybe you try that without company coming over?

[Fred Warner]

I don't know. Vince Wilfort knows his grilling. He knows his barbecue. We'll talk to him about that and more.

[Steve Covino]

He's working with Jason Kelsey on some grilling stuff for the Super Bowl.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah. Yeah. And we just had Fred Warner on the show. I know. That was huge for Rich. As a big 49ers fan, the one thing I kind of wanted to get to, if we had more time, is something you bring up all the time about your 49ers and the fear of, you know, you only get so much of a window in the NFL. Then again, the Eagles, you thought they were done, and now they're back.

[Steve Covino]

I'm giving you his answer.

[Fred Warner]

Okay, ready? Hey, Fred Warner.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, baby.

[Fred Warner]

Rich Davis. Yeah, baby.

[Steve Covino]

He's smooth.

[Fred Warner]

He's like, get scared that maybe the 49ers window is closing.

[Steve Covino]

His answer is clear because it's what any Niner would say when you have John lynch and Kyle Shanahan running the show. Guys that know how to work contracts, they know. They know a system.

[Fred Warner]

And Salah coming back And Robert Salah.

[Rich Davis]

Now, I don't know what you're talking about, Rich. The window closed already.

[Steve Covino]

No, no, there is no window closing for the 49ers. And you know what? He did give one great answer, which is, I gave a lot of great answers. But what I thought was interesting is, yeah, as a fan, you do look at those schedules and say, yo, the, the Niners play all week ass teams next year because they have, they have the quote, easiest schedule winning percentage wise, going into the next season because they were technically a last place team. But he's right. All the bottom feeders get the top picks in the draft and they spend the off season trying to revamp because what they did didn't work. So it's not like every garbage team last year is going to be garbage again. It's just not how it is.

[Fred Warner]

But again, much how the 49ers fell off this year. And you think about their window closing. That's why the Eagles are inspiring heading into Sunday, because we felt that way about them last year. You get one major piece like a Saquon Barkley, you got a good healthy year from Jalen, hurts the whole thing is right back, you know, and turns it all around again. So I would never count your 49ers out, is my point.

[Steve Covino]

You get McCaffrey, Iuk, all these guys that missed the whole season.

[Fred Warner]

Exactly. You know, and maybe make a good move here and there.

[Steve Covino]

And you know who you could also put in that conversation of, oh, you know, we counted them out. A team that came within a field goal of being here at Super Bowl 59. Everyone said, oh, Buffalo, that, that ship is sail. And people were saying jets and Dolphins. There were so many people even on our network that were saying, yeah, Buffalo, that Josh Allen window is closed. McDermott, no, thanks. You know, they were a Josh Allen bad fourth down spot away from having the ball in the fourth quarter, already up scoring again. So the NFL, things change very quickly with little adjustments.

[Fred Warner]

You know what, I'm going to call out Rich later on. I want to make fun of Rich. And you definitely want to hear that because he was splitting food last night at a company dinner. He went split skis. But since you're talking about again the super bowl and we're not going to avoid it. That's why we're here. Let's talk about the ticket sales and the ticket fatigue. Do you think because we saw this already and because Chiefs fans have been here twice already that they're not buying tickets because they're cheaper than ever before? Well, not ever before, but in recent history.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. I mean, they're not like $10, like 1967 in Super Bowl 1, but nobody gets.

[Fred Warner]

Do you think it's Chiefs fatigue? Super bowl fatigue? Do you think they're sick of the matchup? Like, what do you think is going on? That the tickets are significantly lower?

[Steve Covino]

I mean, what you're saying is probably the number one answer. And I say that because if this super bowl was Detroit Lions, Buffalo Bills, I think you would have seen most expensive ticket, without a doubt, super bowl history.

[Fred Warner]

And I think it's as simple as this. Ready? Break it down. Just regular guy. Yeah. Let's say you went to the last two chief Super Bowls. Imagine the guy having to go to his wife again and be like, honey, I'd like to go again with the boys. Or even you want to take your family, Whatever the case may be, if you went the last two years coughing up the change for a third one in New Orleans might be like, hey, you know, maybe it's a little too much. Or maybe like, yeah, I went to the last two. Maybe I'll sit back and watch this one.

[Steve Covino]

But what do. What do most grown men and women call going to the Super Bowl? The World Series, the NBA Finals? They usually say things like, this is a once in a lifetime.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Bucket list, bucket list.

[Steve Covino]

I gotta go. And then you know what those people did? They went in 2020.

[Fred Warner]

Exactly.

[Steve Covino]

When the Niners lost to the Chiefs in Miami. And then for the people that were like, oh, man, such a bummer it didn't go. They maybe went the next year when Tom Brady faced my homes. Oh, dude, I totally missed my opportunity. Oh, the Rams. Bengals. Fast forward another year. Oh, wait, they're back in the big game. They're playing the Eagles. There's been five opportunities now for a Chiefs fan. So small market Kansas City fans that are like, this is a bucket list item. You. You are now on champs.

[Fred Warner]

Number five. Spoiled, bro.

[Steve Covino]

It's not.

[Fred Warner]

It's like, it's the spoiled mentality. I've been there as a Yankees fan in 96. Of course I was there, you know, 98. I was there again, you know, 2000. Yeah, I wasn't as excited to go. I was excited to watch.

[Steve Covino]

Nothing would bother me.

[Fred Warner]

Don't get it wrong. I was watching and rooting, but it wasn't the same. Exciting because you become spoiled and entitled a little bit. And I think maybe that's why there's not as many Chiefs fans willing to come and cough up that money. In fact, we went to opening night, which is just a big media celebration at the Superdome. And media is asking all the players, you know, question, answer. You saw it on television. It was mostly Eagles fans, you know, and again, that's early on in the week. So maybe that is partially the reason. It's just a little bit of an entitlement.

[Steve Covino]

And listen, I have a buddy who's an Eagles fan that watched them win with foals within the last 10 years, watched him lose, watched Jalen Hurts lose a couple years ago. This is the third time in the last decade. He said, and my kids got sports. My wife's like, hey, babe, maybe sit this one out. Like, there is a fatigue, which is 100% true. And on top of that fatigue, Kavino.

[Fred Warner]

Maybe just people are broke.

[Steve Covino]

The economy. You know, some people might say, I don't got that disposable income. However, there's nothing more infuriating than a spoiled fan. There was a time when I was living in New York, Danny G. You're a West coast guy. So if this happens with Dodgers fans, I'll equally roll my eyes and hate it. I would have Yankee fan friends, and I'd say, dude, you go to the playoff games, they would say, bro, it's only the divisional round. Only the divisional. Dude, I'm gonna wait till the World Series. It's only the. It's only the American League Championship. I'm like, what are you saying?

[Fred Warner]

Yeah. So maybe we're seeing some habits of a spoiled fan here. That could very well be it because ticket prices have plummeted.

[Steve Covino]

And side story, by the way, plummeted meets $4,000. But in comparison, when last year, the average ticket price was around $8,000.

[Fred Warner]

Exactly. I mean, that's significant. I mean, it's still expensive. I get it. And, you know, I also do think, rich, I mean, we touched on it, that people don't have that sort of money to spend right now. Or maybe they're just playing it safe because they're looking to the future. Who knows? So that is a story we wanted to touch on and wanted to get your thoughts on, maybe as to why Those are our reasonings. That's our theory. Let us know at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio.

[Steve Covino]

Now we're going to get into the hurd little bit with. With Danny G. But one last question about the super bowl from a, from a light perspective. We're having people over.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

What's your take on tv? Volume, people talking, people shutting up. I know one of our favorite comedians, Bill Burr, does A whole bit about how I can't watch the super bowl with non fans because he wants to.

[Fred Warner]

Watch people yapping the whole time when you're trying to concentrate. It's almost disrespectful.

[Steve Covino]

His take is all these morons talk during the game, and then they're quiet during the commercials. And he's like, it should be the opposite. Oh, my God. I got the TV in, like, the den, family room, and I have the living room. Oh.

[Fred Warner]

So you don't come here with questions. You come here with solutions.

[Steve Covino]

I'm saying, do I make a proclamation that if you want to hone in on the game.

[Fred Warner]

Hey, listen, Slappy. Hey, Zippy, zip it. If you want to yap the whole time, get in the kitty's room and watch over there like, Danny, if you.

[Steve Covino]

And Brenda and Koa come by, do I say, hey, if Brenda and co Are gonna be playing with the kids, that's. That's where you go in the, like, the family room. The game will be on. But if you want to watch, forget.

[Rich Davis]

The super bowl regular season. I don't like it when my own kids, even the teens family, are in the living room while I'm watching such a great.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah, you know what, though? Kids at least have an excuse, right? They're running around, they're being rambunctious, they're being kicked. Kids. You're an adult. So many adults show up just to hobnob, you know, and eat the free food.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, I hate it.

[Fred Warner]

It's like, yo, man, you're ruining the atmosphere here.

[Rich Davis]

I've been to a Super bowl party or two. I'm sure you have too, where they turn the volume down so that people could hear their chit chat. I hate that Turn. Turn the game up.

[Fred Warner]

I'm gonna get extra.

[Steve Covino]

I'm gonna extra sono speakers and crank them. No, it is just because you need to hear it.

[Fred Warner]

It's Super Bowl. You gotta have the surround sound, and you gotta have it like. Like sports bar level where the game outweighs for a big game outweighs the chit chat.

[Rich Davis]

That's.

[Fred Warner]

That's the method. But again, Rich's solution, if you missed it, is he's gonna have a separate tv where if you want to chit chat about the latest Bachelor episode while the game is on, you go in that room. All right? This room's for the real fans that are concentrating. I invested a whole season, a whole time, you know, all this time into this entire season not to listen to you on a Super bowl, bro.

[Steve Covino]

I love all the chat. Hey, new Love is Blind comes out this week. Hey, you're watching Shrinking on Apple tv. That's the chat, Danny.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

For the, for the family room.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you're a hobnobber. That's why we do that feature on Fridays. And it's also when you know you met the right significant other, because Brenda, she knows if NFL's on, don't talk unless there's commercials. There's a, you know, turn. She's even grabbed the remote and turn the volume up for me.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah, that's a.

[Rich Davis]

That's a great game day wifey right.

[Steve Covino]

There, Danny, with the game day. Game day wife.

[Fred Warner]

Game day wifey. And what do you think about halftime too? Again, I'm not the biggest Kendrick Lamar fan, but I want to hear what's going on. I want to hear it. I don't want to hear you. You're not the halftime show. He is.

[Steve Covino]

Those are cultural moments that I think.

[Fred Warner]

Exactly.

[Steve Covino]

If you're a human being. Because what cultural.

[Fred Warner]

I see as like historical moments. Because we'll be talking about it. Same way you bring up Bruno Mars and Prince and whoever performed, you're gonna be like, yo, remember when Ken, Even if he stinks, you want to watch it and you want to remember it. So. So it's almost a disrespect that some dude is going to talk over and stomp over this entire historical moment. It's like, yo, man, is it the time and place?

[Steve Covino]

Could I predict something? Yeah, because in 2020.

[Fred Warner]

I like your solution, by the way.

[Steve Covino]

In 2025, we live in a world of eye rolling critics, everyone.

[Fred Warner]

Oh, God.

[Steve Covino]

Like, you could see. You could see the greatest thing in the world, yet there's people that somehow find a way to hate it. Without a doubt, there's gonna be a bunch of people that no matter what Kendrick Lamar does. No, I thought it stunk. And there's gonna be people that think every. Every commercial stinks. And there's gonna be those people that live in the past about like, yo used to be better back in the day. It's like, it's like the fireworks on the 4th of July. There's always that one jerk better last year. So be prepared for the haters and the jerks, but enjoy your Super Bowl Sunday.

[Fred Warner]

And fireworks usually end with it. Is that it?

[Steve Covino]

That's it.

[Fred Warner]

That's it.

[Rich Davis]

Over.

[Steve Covino]

So I, I think you gotta prepare yourself for all those ass clowns that mock everything that talk in your living room. So have at it, have fun. And with that, let's Go to Danny G. For the Herdline news.

[Vince Wilfork]

No, no, no.

[Fred Warner]

Turn on the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is the Herd Line news.

[Rich Davis]

All right, guys, leading headline from super bowl week in New Orleans, Premier Network's big shot Julie Talbot is soft and says that Rich Davis sharing food with our boss Scott was cute.

[Steve Covino]

Let me tell you, it is. And maybe. I think we'll talk about it more on our show this afternoon because there. There was a. A lot of people chat about how me and the boss decided to split. Two entrees, two grown man. A totally legit move.

[Rich Davis]

Embarrassing.

[Fred Warner]

At least I thought you were.

[Steve Covino]

We didn't feed each other scallops, guys.

[Fred Warner]

Did you guys share a little cocktail with an umbrella, too?

[Rich Davis]

You guys fed each other a dessert and I took a picture of it. And that is now gonna go in the blackmail file. All right, let's start with the NFL here. Nick Ceriani, the Eagles head coach, of course, he weighed in on your guys debate yesterday about motivation and adversity. This team's embraced adversity. Sirianni said yesterday, Even going back to the 23 season, which we haven't talked a lot about since the beginning of the year, we're grateful for that. We're thankful for that. As bad as it sucked at the time, I know I'm grateful for that because it shaped us into who we are now and a big reason why we're back here. Embracing adversity is huge for your development as a person, as a player, as a coach.

[Fred Warner]

You know, we got Vince Woolfork stopping by later on. He's lost a few Super Bowls. We'll ask him about it. How does that work as far as staying motivated?

[Steve Covino]

That's. You know, Vince Woolfork's a guy that's won a couple close ones and lost a couple close ones. So that's. That's some perspective right there.

[Rich Davis]

All right. The NBA trade deadline is tomorrow. I have one rumor and one trade. KD is dealing with a left ankle sprain, and it is unclear whether or not he's played his final game for the Suns.

[Steve Covino]

No one's safe.

[Rich Davis]

Sources say Phoenix has been willing to listen to offers for Kevin Durant in recent days. The warriors are among the teams with interest, according to Brian Windhorst.

[Fred Warner]

Well, the rumor is that the warriors are reaching out to everybody just to see can we get something rolling. Yeah, they're reaching out to everyone.

[Rich Davis]

It's like they don't want to. They don't want to waste Steph's final years.

[Fred Warner]

Exactly.

[Rich Davis]

All right. And Sham's had more Breaking news this morning. The Bucks have traded three time all star Chris Middleton to the Wizards in a deal that sends Kyle Kuzma to Milwaukee. Middleton's 33 spent 11 plus years in Milwaukee, key member to that Bucks championship team in 21. He's averaging just 12.6 points per games per game this season, his lowest average since 2013. Injuries have been a big part of why he declined. And Kuzma on the other hand, 29, averaging 15.2point, 15.2 points and almost six rebounds this season. So the Bucks, they get a younger guy here to fit in with Giannis Lillard and Brook Lopez.

[Fred Warner]

Hey Danny G. As a resident Lakers guy, do you keep your eye on Kuzma and roof form a little bit?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, of course.

[Fred Warner]

Okay.

[Steve Covino]

I look at that and say they're getting some youth but you know, for that Milwaukee Bucks fan base, it's hard to say goodbye to a lifer that was part of a championship team. Especially when you got that one chip with Giannis and it was very special for that organization. Middleton was such a big part of that.

[Rich Davis]

So don't forget he rose up from the G League. So he's one of the better stories in the league.

[Steve Covino]

You know Danny, speaking of the NBA, when you look at the standings, I know we always have to stick with Eastern Conference, Western Conference, but I just looked at, I'm like hey, where are, where are the Golden State Warriors? As of right now they're that 10 seed that would be in the play in game. Dallas is over 500 and they are on the outside looking at number 11. Now when you go to the east seven on wouldn't even make the playoffs in the West. So there's an imbalance in the league. Like you know every, every, every few years you get a way heavier conference and right now the worst teams in the west are as good as playoff teams in the East.

[Rich Davis]

It's going to be a fun NBA season that we're looking forward to after the super bowl is over. Suddenly some life injected to the league. Especially with the Anthony Davis, no doubt and Luca Trey look at in the east.

[Steve Covino]

Detroit is currently the sixth seed. If they were in the west they would be the 12 seed.

[Rich Davis]

That's crazy.

[Steve Covino]

Just the big imbalance.

[Fred Warner]

So lots of drama show in the next two days as far as as moves being made.

[Rich Davis]

And let's wrap it up with LeBron. The Lakers are now 2 and oh at the Clippers new into into Intuit Dome home.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, how sad for the Clippers.

[Rich Davis]

I know they crushed the clippers last night. 122 to 97. And, you know, the Clippers have been dominating Lakers at least in the regular season the past decade, but not lately. That's nine wins in the Lakers last 11 games. And LeBron said that when he went to the bench for his first breather, it was strange to not have his usual seat right next to his homie AD But. But that a smiling Luca helped make the adjustment for him. I thought that the trade news for sure was fake. LeBron said. I thought it was a hoax, people messing around or whatever. But then when AD called me and FaceTimed me and I talked to him for quite a while, and even when I got off the phone with him, I still didn't think it was real.

[Fred Warner]

You know, I think we're still processing it and absorbing it. Did you think it was a hoax?

[Steve Covino]

Because you even believe in, like, drones and ufo, so you must have thought.

[Fred Warner]

I was like, get out of here. I thought I was in a. Click the link, and it was gonna be a naked guy. You know, I thought it was a fake link. I didn't know what it was, but I. I was pretty impressed by the professionalism of all involved, meaning LeBron saying, you know, hey, man, this happens. It's a business. I get that. And, you know, gotta move forward, that sort of thing. AD Seemed oddly content. Like, you know, I was watching the clip, I'm like, wait, is that a current clip? Because I expected to see him, like, sad and somber, but he was sort of like, yeah, we're gonna go at it and get it. And. And it was cool to see that he's moving forward. If anything, Luca seemed, you know, the most torn up about it, but we talked about it earlier. He's also dealing with the most adverse.

[Steve Covino]

$100 million difference and the most loss here.

[Fred Warner]

But again, I know he's excited still.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he's carrying the most weight.

[Steve Covino]

You know what I have? Pun intended.

[Fred Warner]

Exactly.

[Steve Covino]

But I will say, though, that, you know, in a world of critics where everyone's, you know, leaning on every word they say, yeah, everyone sort of handled it pretty professionally. I think the right amount also of.

[Fred Warner]

AD turned down $6 million trade trading clause just to have extra money so they can get the key components that they need. Yeah, that was a big move.

[Steve Covino]

I think we're also seeing the right amount of grief, like LeBron saying goodbye to AD Luka saying goodbye to Dallas. It's not too much where it's like, all right, get over it. But it's also the right amount of respect.

[Rich Davis]

So, yeah, now let's see it all on the court.

[Steve Covino]

And to say, you know, who won this trade, you're full of it. Because no one knows yet. We shall see. And that is the Hurdline news.

[Rich Davis]

Well, that's the news.

[Steve Covino]

And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.

[Fred Warner]

All right, so you mentioned the Lakers. We still got to talk, Bronnie. And the most exciting, and I say this respectfully, the most exciting garbage time.

[Steve Covino]

Players in any sport. It could be backup quarterbacks. It could be, you know, guys off the end of the bench in the NBA, those garbage time players that get people fan.

[Rich Davis]

Fan favorites usually. Like that dude that used to come off the bench for the Celtics.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah, yeah. All your fan favorites, that redheaded Kobe. Oh, I thought you're gonna say Taco.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, him too. Yeah, they've had a few Taco Grande.

[Steve Covino]

Your favorite Weird Al song.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah, Taco Grande.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, oh, Taco fall. Yeah.

[Fred Warner]

So again, it didn't make Danny's Herdline news, but Bronny hit his first three. And say what you want about the guy when he's in. And when I hear his name in the highlights, I'm tuned in. So the most exciting garbage time players, and I say that respectfully, will chop it up. And we got more Covino and Rich in for Colin on the Herd. And stick around for Vince Wulfork here From Super Bowl 59, New Orleans, Fox Sports Radio.

[Steve Covino]

Let's go.

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[Fred Warner]

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[Fred Warner]

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[Fred Warner]

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[Steve Covino]

We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.

[Fred Warner]

We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss.

[Steve Covino]

And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Fred Warner]

So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.

[Steve Covino]

I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.

[Fred Warner]

Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio. And the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific and.

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your base basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I, I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

[Steve Covino]

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. Like, like the color edition.

[Steve Covino]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Fred Warner]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

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[Fred Warner]

We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you.

[Steve Covino]

See some of the connections that Julie has.

[Fred Warner]

She has quite the Rolodex.

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[Vince Wilfork]

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[Fred Warner]

I'm ready to roll.

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[Katherine Legg]

Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm A.J. stephens, Vice President of client strategy at Athens Athletes first, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contracts. Introducing the Athletes First Family podcast, the Quarterback Series, along with my co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO, we're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension and Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract that's sent shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tungavailoa, and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Fred Warner]

All right, welcome back to the show Covino and Rich. Follow our adventures at Covino and Rich on social media. Always post the new stuff. We came from Vegas to New Orleans. We were in Vegas this past weekend for the Benavidez fight. David Benavidez with the nice win. And there's lots of rumors in the world of fighting Rich, fighting that Canelo is going to fight Jake Paul and Terence Crawford in September. So he's going to fight everybody. But David Benavidez is really the moral of that story. But we love a great fight. Nice Heiny. And we love being here at Super Bowl 59 media row in New Orleans again in for Colin on the Herd. And we're still joined by Vince Wilfork next hour.

[Steve Covino]

In fact, if you look at Covino's Instagram algorithm, it's Booties, fight game. And the Yankees.

[Fred Warner]

Oh, yeah, and football, football, football. Because we're real excited about the super bowl, man.

[Steve Covino]

So you brought up Ronny James. And I. I love to disagree with Covino. That's what I do for fun. That's what I do for a living. But I agree with him 100% when he said, with all due respect, Bronny James might be the most exciting garbage time player ever. And you gave a great example, too. It's usually when. And it's the kid of a player, I'll be honest. Let's see if the little nerdy white dude on the end of the bench or the seven footer in the NBA, there's always that guy where you're like, oh, get him in now. To me, I know this.

[Fred Warner]

It's like sort of the. The Rudy of the Lucas of the team. It's the fan favorite after a while, and he's that guy. And let's make it clear, too, again, for the hurt audience, we don't hate on Bronny James.

[Steve Covino]

Not at all, man. At all.

[Fred Warner]

In fact, you know, we're rooting for the kid. He's just a kid, man. He's got a lot of pressure on him. His dad's putting all this pressure on him. So when I see him deliver, you know, I get excited for him. I do also.

[Rich Davis]

I feel like it kind of opened the door for the Lakers to be their own man and not have to clear everything through LeBron for this Luka trade. Because, you know, in a sense, they felt like, we did you a solid with your son.

[Steve Covino]

It's almost like when you. When you do someone a salad or a good. We don't. We don't owe you anymore.

[Fred Warner]

It's funny, your favor. Yeah. Because I thought about that in a lot of different ways, too, because when you saw LeBron's reaction to it publicly, he seemed to be cool with it. And I'm wondering if they said things to him like, look, man, Luca knows the deal with Bronnie moving forward, you know, or we're still gonna look out for Bronnie moving forward.

[Steve Covino]

Or if LeBron said something like, yo, listen, guys, you're not keeping me in the loop, Bronny.

[Fred Warner]

Right? You know, like, yeah, I. In my opinion, they said all the right things after the fact, too, to keep him happy and let him feel like, yeah, this was still a part of keeping the winning tradition for Bronny or something. Right.

[Rich Davis]

How's that flat screen TV doing that? I helped you wall mount.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah, exactly. It's sort of like that, you know.

[Steve Covino]

When you, when you bring up garbage time players. I'm gonna make it a little kinder.

[Fred Warner]

Sure.

[Steve Covino]

Okay. And I want.

[Fred Warner]

It's just, it's just an expression to be a dis.

[Steve Covino]

But. But garbage time player is also trans. A translation like backup fan favorite, you know, utility guy. Because I have two that come to mind as a Mets fan. Oh my God. Jose Iglesias was a dude that the Mets got from the Tigers. Like minor league deal brought him up. Candelita. He's a Latino music star. That's 300 in key spots for the Mets. And he becomes the rally cry of a team that had an amazing playoff run. So you could say Jose Iglesias went from like utility garbage guy to a key component of a really fun playoff run.

[Fred Warner]

You know who I think of when you say that as a Yankees fan. And by the way. Yeah. That would, that would be a great example. And he stepped up.

[Steve Covino]

Up.

[Fred Warner]

Yeah, right.

[Steve Covino]

In fact, they still no one has signed him yet. And I'm like, I just think like it by no means a charity case. The guy delivers. But I feel like just for, just for vibes the Mets, how do you move on?

[Fred Warner]

I also think not only do the fans rally around that type of player, the team rallies around that type of player. And see how LeBron reacts when his son scores. You know, it's actually endearing to watch like, wow, he, he's. His heart is out there when his son is playing, you know, he's scoring and the team knows that too. Say they're, they're rallying around Bronny. Whether you think it's fair or not, it might be good for the team. I think of as a Yankees fan, Louis Soho, who wasn't like the greatest player ever, but the fans and the team rallied around that dude and he came through all the time. You know, he was sort of a garbage time utility guy that, that stepped up and people loved him.

[Steve Covino]

Can you know who comes to mind in baseball? And then I got a couple football.

[Fred Warner]

Well now baseball sort of abuses a little bit because they're always throwing position players into pitch during a blowout. That. That's more than ever before we've seen that.

[Steve Covino]

I was going to say, well, take you back like 10 plus years, he was around the league on different teams. Remember Super Joe McEwing?

[Fred Warner]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Of course there's always those guys. And though in the NFL you could say it's backup quarterbacks that when they get a chance, eyes are peeled. Before he was a starter and then what happens is they become starters and they lose that appeal.

[Fred Warner]

I, I know where you go.

[Steve Covino]

Gardner, minu. Number one, the pastronaut.

[Fred Warner]

Oh, yeah.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, we're talking about guys that when they got a shot, you're like, oh, man. But then sadly they lose that appeal when they're, when they got the job.

[Fred Warner]

So here's what we'll do again because we're on location on media row here at the Super Bowl. Let's get your feedback at covinoenrich@fox sports Radio. Alright, hashtag garbage time. Players, football, baseball, basketball, hashtag Rich is lame, let us know. We'll give you a shout out and read your feedback at Covino and Rich. Who comes to mind for you?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, yeah. It's. Honestly, it's, it's, it's a compliment. It's not an insult.

[Fred Warner]

No, no, no. It's awesome.

[Steve Covino]

It's the fan favorites. Now listen, coming up next, Vince Wilfork. Now here's a guy who has been to four Super Bowls. He won two, he lost two. So this guy knows about the highs and lows of this week. So we'll catch up with him. In for Colin Cowherd on the Herd, you got Kavino and Rich live from New Orleans media row.

[Fred Warner]

Yep, let's go.

[Steve Covino]

We got more next right here, Fox Sports Radio.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen, a Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Penick]

What's up, everyone? It's Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did.

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[Steve Covino]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the Thing, I speak with musician, photographer and philanthropist Julian Lennon. One of the really important things that happened to me with photography was I would have people write to me, people that couldn't financially afford to travel the world. And what they had all said to me is that you bring these stories to us, you bring the truth, you bring cultures that we would never necessarily know anything about. Listen to the new season of here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.

[Fred Warner]

Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.