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Colin Cowherd
It really is. It is a ban a week. I want to just get and I told you I'm going to sell. I got a four point plan for the Jets. I'm going to unveil this at the bottom of the hour about 25 after. I really feel strongly about this. I watched Enigma, the documentary Gotham Chopra and Aaron Rodgers. And I said, I mean I'm listen, I'm a big enough nerd. I sat there and took notes and I thought to myself, you know, this, this Rubik's Cube is not impossible to solve. And it's actually very easy if they do four steps and I'll get to those. But first let's bring In Greg Cosell, NFL Films, 45 years always. So you know, you watch Kansas City and this is what they do. They end up in January, December and January. They solve an offensive line issue. Now they've got Xavier Worthy and here's Hollywood Brown. They do a very good job. What's important to me in the media is big stories. What's important to them are the details and solving little riddles throughout the course of the season. And let's, let's talk about Mahomes and his efficiency over the last couple of months. What's the film say?
Greg Cosell
Yeah, and I think, Colin, quite frankly, there's been a little misconception about the Chiefs. This is a Mahomes driven offense. He has the most drop backs of any quarterback in the NFL going back nine weeks. But in his last six games he has not thrown an interception. And again, most drop backs in the league. So it's a pass first offense. There was a lot of talk early in the season about the running game that's kind of disappeared. It's all driven by Mahomes. They lead the NFL in third down conversions. He's phenomenal on third down. They control the ball. They're second in time of possession. And that becomes really important because when you control the pace and tempo of the game, your defense plays fewer snaps. And that is absolutely critical. I remember a coach telling me years ago that in an ideal world, you don't want your defense playing any more than 60 to 64 snaps a game. And we know how good Steve Spagnolo is anyway, so now you have a complete team. But make no mistake, this is driven by Patrick Mahomes. He's playing really well. What we're not seeing, and I think where people think, oh, Mahomes isn't what he used to be, is we just don't see a lot of 60 yard touchdown passes. But he's controlling the game with incredible efficiency.
Colin Cowherd
So you and I both like Sam Darnold. Rough start. We always saw the playmaking, we always saw the playmaking, we always saw the big arm. But he could be reckless. Is there something the film says, though, and this is why I love bringing you on, is there something the film says about Darnold that he doesn't necessarily get a ton of credit for?
Greg Cosell
I think there's two things. And you know, Colin, because I send you my evaluations of college quarterbacks, you know, I'm a traits guy.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Greg Cosell
So there's two traits that I think have really stood out with Darnold that we didn't see much of early in his career. It might be his natural development, it might be the coaching. We don't know that. But there's two traits. One is pocket movement. He's much more efficient and much more effective when he moves within the pocket. I'm not talking about running out of the pocket. I'm talking about moving within the pocket as we see on this touchdown last week that won the game to Jefferson. The other thing is sort of a corollary point to that. That's his ability to stay in the pocket and make late in the down throws when the pocket is squeezed and there's bodies around him. That was something he did not do well early in his career. He made a lot of bad reads and bad throws. When he tried to do that, he's gotten so much better at that. So there are two areas of pocket play that are absolutely critical to being a higher level pocket quarterback that he's improved significantly at.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he's willing to take a hit, play a little linebacker in high school, he's a tough kid and he'll sit in there to the very end and get smoked. And I think you nailed it. So I think what's fascinating with Philadelphia, everybody acknowledges it's a Barkley offense and Jalen throws less. But if you look at Green Bay, I'm actually seeing the same thing where it's a Josh Jacobs, LaFleur offense and Jordan Love who they like, who has excellent weapons, is throwing less. And I, I find it fascinating because when LaFleur was in Tennessee, he had Derrick Henry and his reputation. I remember, I remember making calls. People said, I don't know about creating a culture, but he likes to pound the ball. And it feels like we're finally seeing his offense.
Greg Cosell
Well, it's the year of the running back. We're going to have probably five or six backs with over 300 carries. We, we had none last year. And Josh Jacobs will be one of those backs barring an injury. And they start with the run game and they're very multiple with their run game. That's the thing. You're seeing a lot more multiplicity with teams that run the ball. And the packers are a great example. All the use of different backfield actions. They play with two running backs, what we call the pony package. A lot of teams are doing this. The packers are one of the teams doing it quite a bit. And they're so multiple with their run game concepts, the way they use Jaden Reed in the backfield with different motions. So it all starts with the run game. But it's not old school run game, Colin, where you just line up and give it to the back and say, let's bang it up in there. They're very, very multiple. A lot of different formation looks a lot of different Personnel, Lot of different motions.
Colin Cowherd
You know, it's funny about Derrick Henry. First couple years, wasn't a superstar in the league, then he develops into one, and then. Then he goes to Baltimore, and it's easy to say, well, you know, it's the Ravens. Of course he can run it, but they replaced three starters on the O line. It seems to me that it's. It's not just that Derrick Henry's talented. It seems to me that the way they use him, it's. He's getting yards before contact a lot this year. That's what it looks like to me. He's always been good, plus post contact. But what are they doing specifically to Derrick Henry, who's given it. It's given him kind of a rebirth in the league.
Greg Cosell
Well, there's no question that the Lamar factor plays into that because you have to account for Lamar in the run game. So there's no question that the way defenses have to align has to have an accounting for Lamar Jackson, and that impacts run support. So it's not just as he was in Tennessee, where they would just line up and give him the ball, but I think Henry as a whole. You know, it's funny. I remember talking to a coach who was at Alabama at the time, and he's now in the NFL, and I wasn't sure after two years if this was. If Derrick Henry could be what he's become.
Colin Cowherd
Same.
Greg Cosell
And. And I'll be the first to admit I was wrong, because obviously, Derrick Henry's on his way to being a Hall of Fame back. But the thing about Henry, because in a sense, he's not a power runner in that he runs over people. Colin. But he's a power runner in this sense. When it's blocked for three, you look up and he just got seven. And you go, how do you get seven? It didn't look like he got seven, but he just got seven. And then you add that to the fact that he can take it to the house for his size on any given play, and that combination is really hard to beat. But there's no question that the Lamar Jackson factor figures into how defenses have to align, and therefore, that really dictates run support issues for defenses.
Colin Cowherd
So I want to talk about a kid, because I picked Atlanta to win their division, and they've beaten the Bucks twice. And, you know, we were going back and forth on this show. Why won't they play him? As Kirk Cousins was regressing, and my take was they wrote a big check to Kirk Cousins and Arthur Blank probably wanted to get every start out of Kirk Cousins before they sent him to the bench. Because once you played Penic, you're not going to go back to Cousins. What did the debut. The debut, what about it did you like?
Greg Cosell
Well, you've always talked about this with quarterbacks, Colin, about coaching and I thought this was a great example. The kid's making his first start. You and I both love his talent. We know we can throw the ball. We know he can sit on his back foot and drive it with velocity. We know what his traits are. But what they did exceptionally well, you're almost seeing it on this play right here that we're looking at is they're an outside zone foundation run team with Bijon Robinson, another back, by the way, who might get 300 carries. So what they did is they countered off that beautifully with the play action and the play action boot pass game. So they used their outside zone run foundation to really help Penix get comfortable in the game and define the reads and the throws. And the thing that he does really well and there's not a lot of quarterbacks who do this, he throws outside the numbers really well and there's a lot of juice on those throws and obviously he can throw between the numbers. I mean, those are easier throws, relatively speaking. But to drive the ball outside the numbers, he can do that and he can just sit on his back foot and do that. He does not necessarily need to stride into those throws.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, he's got an arm. So this past week, on Monday, Matt Hasselbeck said something interesting. He said, you know, Caleb's not an anticipatory thrower. And he goes, I think you have to be in this league and some guys can develop into it. But you have been higher on Caleb even during his losing streak. There's a lot to like. Let's address that anticipatory thing because I thought Hasselbeck was willing to say it and I think it's true. I now watch him when he plays and some guys you gotta be open or I won't let it rip. What do you make of that criticism?
Greg Cosell
Right? I think it's fair. And don't forget he's got a big arm. He throws a really tight spiral, the ball comes out. So at times he can compensate for that. But what the film shows is when he sees it and the primary is clean. Man, does he look good. He made two throws at the end of the first half last week, a dig ball to Moore for about 25 yards and then he threw the touchdown to Keenan Allen. And those throws were defined, they were clean, they were the primary reads on those throws. When he sees it that way, he looks really good. But I think one reason he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions, Colin hasn't thrown one in a long time, is if he doesn't see it, he's not going to throw it because he just doesn't feel it that way. Now, I don't know how Matt Hasselbeck feels. I think that coaches would say you can improve that to some degree, but you're not going to take a guy who's not an innate anticipation thrower and make him Joe Burrow. That's not going to happen. So, you know, you sort of have to work around that. But he's got really high level throwing traits and obviously we know he's got some movement ability. The other thing he needs to work on is he needs to work on moving within the pocket. And that's a totally different trait than running out of the pocket, which he can be pretty good at. He's got a feel when he moves out of the pocket, pretty good spatial awareness because the sacks have to come down. There's too many sacks.
Colin Cowherd
Okay. A team that's getting red hot is the Rams. It's interesting. Stafford's older and they have struggled in the first half. And I've said, you know, I was telling a friend a couple nights ago, I'm like, is it a Stafford's not warmed up thing? Does he need to get to the fifth inning? But they usually, he's not getting sacked, they're not turning it over. Finally now, with Tyler Higby back, everybody's ready to go on offense, but yet it's the defense with a lot of first, second and third round draft picks that have all hit. All hit. So to talk about, because I don't know if this defense, it's really, really young, but when I watch it, I mean, this week they play Arizona and both Arizona's offensive tackles are out. So it could be a feast. What do you make of the Rams defense?
Greg Cosell
I really like what they've done. They've won eight of their last 10. Okay. In those last 10 games, no team in the NFL has played more with six defensive backs, what we call dime, than the Rams. That has really been their foundation. They play a ton at a dime. They play with Jalen McCullough, who's a rookie safety. They play with Kitchens, the rookie from the University of Miami. They even play what we call big nickel with three safeties a lot. I mean, this is a Safety driven defense with a front four that's young and improving. And I have to tell you, when you watch Jared Verse play and we're seeing him here, his speed to power for a young player may be as good as any in the league. So this is a continually evolving defense that plays a ton of dime. That's sort of their foundation. They're getting better and better and offensively they're really another team that's really built on the run. You and I both love Staffords, but Kyron Williams, another back with over 300 carries. That's where they start their offense with the zone run game.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's funny, we always think these McVeigh, LaFleur Shanahan guys, offensive wizards or pass guys, they all love to run. The truth is all of them, I mean, Kyron Williams, a small guy, is carrying it 24 times a game.
Greg Cosell
Yeah. And you know what? Motion is so critical. We think of motion in the past game as you, you know, you were talking about the past game and you're right. We, we think of motion being a big deal in the, in the pass game, it's really a bigger deal in the run game. You can almost go back to Joe Gibbs with the Washington Redskins and the use of motion to really mess up teams run support problems and, and, and how they handle the run. So it's, it. Motion is a critical factor in the run game.
Colin Cowherd
So. Greg, I don't know if I've ever told you this before. I have something I have a belief in quarterbacks is all pay a quarterback 50 large if he's not an if guy. But if Brock Purdy is your classic if guy, if the weather's good, it's not raining, if he gets protection, if he has an above average O line, if he has an offensive Coach, if Christian McCaffrey is healthy, it's very much a qualifying scenario if he gets that. And to me, I'm not paying guys 40, 50 million if. If they're the if quarterback. I like Purdy, but when I watch the Niners, I see offensive line issues and then I see a very average player. What does the film say on Purdy?
Greg Cosell
Well, I guess I, I'd almost ask you a question. How many quarterbacks are not if guys? How many quarterbacks can be really great and carry a team without a lot of things working for them? There's probably very few, Colin, if you really think about it. Yeah. Okay, so. So 90% of the quarterbacks in the league would be if guys based on your definition. So you have to Separate the money. You have to separate the money from the conversation because look, everybody knows what Brock Purdy is. Brock Purdy is not a big guy. He doesn't have a great arm. So what, what has to happen for Brock Purdy to be a really good player? He has to have a good old line which by the way has not been good this year. No, the, the depth of the pocket which is controlled by the interior of the O line has not been very good. So he's been squeezed a lot. And because he doesn't have a big arm, he needs space to throw the ball. They've almost had no run game this year. Maybe early in the year they did when Mason was pretty good early, but they've almost had no run game and they've got no speed right now at receiver. I think Piersol is going to be a good player, but he's a rookie who basically had no practice because of the unfortunate tragic situation. So really this is an offense that's lacking in so many areas. But you could say that about a lot of quarterbacks. I mean, we can talk about the Mahomes, the Allens, the Burrows, the Jacksons. Maybe there's one or two more I'm missing. But most, almost all quarterbacks in the league are if quarterbacks. It depends what they have around them. And right now Purdy does not have much around him. So his, his game is going to look like it lacks consistency at times on a week to week basis.
Colin Cowherd
You know, interesting. The Cowboys, obviously Dak Prescott's the starter, but we, we, we brought stats out last week with Cooper Rush and if you, if it was a blind test, it's the same guy. Is there anything, I mean, where is Cooper Rush? Clearly not Dak. And where is he very similar to Dak?
Greg Cosell
Well, I think their coaching staff's doing a great job because what you see a lot with them is you see a ton of different personnel packages, a ton of different formation looks, a lot of shifts in motions. They're giving a defense a lot to have to deal with. That was really evident in the game against Tampa on Sunday night last week where you just saw that Tampa, they really struggled a bit to figure all this out. And therefore he was phenomenal against their blitz because Todd Bowles will blitz. Rush was phenomenal on third down. He was phenomenal against their pressures and the Bucs pressured a lot. Now he's a guy that you need to get pressure on and the pressure must be effective, which it was not by the Bucs because he tends to fall away from throws. But one thing about him, he's been very decisive the more he plays and I'm sure that's being drilled into him that, hey, just get rid of the football. Do not hold it. They're not going to tell him this, but the bottom line is he's not good enough to sit in the pocket and drive the football. So the ball needs to come out and he's been doing well. And. And prior to last week where they didn't run well, but in the previous four weeks prior to the Bucs game, Dowdle was the second leading rusher in the league behind Saquon Barkley.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, interesting. All right, we're going to, we're going to end it here. Over the next two minutes on Jaden Daniels. I thought it was impressive that he struggled early, was trying to give that puppy away, and then in the end he was great in the fourth quarter. And I like his ability. Andrew Luck had this, an ability, a short memory. It's about the win. Don't get caught up into your emotions. You're going to make mistakes. It's the NFL guys sometimes make great plays. I love it's an Andrew Luck quality. Herbert's got this too as well. Just it. Just get the ball that drives. Done. Move to the next drive. Have you noticed that?
Greg Cosell
Yeah. And I like Daniels. I liked him coming out a lot because I thought he was far better in the pocket than a lot of people gave him credit for. And he's made some outstanding pocket throws this year. I mean, he made one against the Eagles. A touchdown in McLaurin for 32 yards where he had a free hitter right in his face and he threw the ball to the pylon. It was a spot throw. He threw the ball to the pylon at the edge of the end zone and McLaurin was 20 at the 25 yard line. It was an unbelievable throw. But, you know, obviously he led the game winning drive and I love the final touchdown drive to Crowder, which is our play of the week, Colin, so we can take a look at it because this is an example of great execution but also great coaching because they knew exactly what they were going to get from the Eagles on this red zone play. It was a. And teams tend to know that in the red zone. So you're going to see that there's an empty set here. Daniels is in an empty set. There's nobody on either side of him. So that's an empty set. Now what he's looking at, and this is what they anticipated. He's looking at a two shell coverage structure. There's two safeties. But the other really important player here is going to be Zach Bourne, the linebacker. Because very often when teams play this two shell in the red zone, they have the linebacker who kind of works the middle of the field as a middle hole player. Now these are the three receivers here because don't forget it's empty that are key to this whole play. Okay, so what they want to do, we're going to see the route concept which is all designed to high low Zach Bond. That's the whole premise of this route concept. So you're going to have Crowder who runs a route behind him and Ertz in front of him. And then you have Robinson. This is critical. You must control the backside safety. That's absolutely essential on this play. So Robinson the back, of course, it's an empty set. He's going to do that with his route. So now what you're going to get as we see this go in motion is Crowder. He's going to run the bender as we saw. He's going to bend inside away from the play side safety and the play side safety can't chase him because at this point he doesn't know what Ertz is going to do. But Ertz is going to run the bender inside. And as I said, bourn is the player here that they're really high lowing and you're going to see and Daniel sees this because he knows what the concept is. You're going to see Bond's body position. Quarterbacks are taught this look at body position right now. Bond cannot flip his hips to be in position to react to the bender by Crowder. So this is a spot throw. Daniels is going to throw this to a spot now basically the N in commanders and he's going to hit him right there. And this was just beautifully designed, beautifully executed. They knew exactly what they were going to get in the red zone. This. Hey, Colin. This is the stuff I love. You know that. This is football. This is X's and O's and it's execution about as beautifully as you can do it.
Colin Cowherd
Greg Co sells Merry Christmas to you. The staff, 45 years, NFL Films. It's always a pleasure to have you. We get smarter every time and thank you, Greg.
Greg Cosell
Thanks, Colin. Great holiday and I'll see you next week.
Colin Cowherd
Yep, absolutely. I always love that segment. Just feel like I just get just. It's the meat in the sandwich on this show on Thursday you just. 3 really good Saturday games tonight. Seahawks and Bears gotta be honest. I'm on a two game DraftKings streak. I like Seattle tonight in that game. I think Seattle's the side. J Mac largely agree.
J Mac
I saw there's some Bears injuries. Looks like their left tackles done.
Colin Cowherd
Yep.
J Mac
Seattle still technically alive.
Colin Cowherd
Absolutely.
J Mac
In the division.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. No so and by the way with the NFC north gonna get three playoff teams here, it's not a lot of not a lot of wild card positions available.
J Mac
I just you watch the Bears the last few weeks since they can Deborah flu and they keep falling into big holes early in games like this. This guy who took over for him as a head coach with Brown is it?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but he didn't even start the year as a coordinator so it's not.
J Mac
Fair out of his depth here. And they seem ill prepared for some of these games.
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All right, so the way it worked when Aaron Rodgers first went to the Jets. I love this. It's my four pronged plan for the Jets. Jet fans may struggle with this, but me, not fireman Ed, has the vision for the jets going forward. So it started Woody Johnson and Aaron Rodgers a rog they Were best friends. Flew out to his pad in Malibu. They're best friends. And then Salah gets whacked and Hackett gets demoted and. And they stop talking. Well, Aaron Rodgers at a recent press conference, it appears to be a tad frosty between him and the impulsive jets owner Woody Johnson. Hey, Woody wants you back.
Greg Cosell
You should ask Woody.
Colin Cowherd
Have you and Woody had conversations at.
Greg Cosell
All, Aaron, about the future?
Colin Cowherd
No. If you do want to come back.
Greg Cosell
And they want you back, what would.
J Mac
That mean to you?
Colin Cowherd
It mean that they, they see me as an important part of helping.
J Mac
The.
Colin Cowherd
Culture, the changeover, whatever they do at head coach. That'd be special to hear that. But if they don't, again, no, no offense at all will be taken. So I. What I take there is the relationship is now separate and frosty. All right, first of all, Aaron's been very good in his last eight games. Passer rating in 99, 14 touchdowns, one pick. Can't blame him. And that coincides with Devonte Adams arriving via the Raiders. Now that's made Garrett Wilson mad. Get to that in a second. But I think early in the season, 40 year old off the injury, he didn't move very well. I didn't think he had a ton of confidence in his body yet. I think Aaron right now is playing very good football. You take these older guys, Russell Wilson, Aaron's better right now. Better. Kirk Cousins, Aaron's better. You start looking at these old guys, Aaron's the best of them again. And it just took him a while to get comfortable with his body. I mean, I think that's pretty clear. He feels really good right now. He's moving better. So if I was Woody Johnson and I don't know if he would do these, but these are the four things. First of all, as a coach, you need a proven guy and a culture setter. I'd go, Mike Vrabel. That, that, that's the easy one. Go get Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel is going to build a team, defense, O line, run game around. Vrabel's the perfect coach to me here. Number two is hire an aggressive, proven general manager, Thomas Dimitrov, formerly of Atlanta, the guy that pulled off that major Julio Jones trade. I like him. He's. He'll take big swings. I would go get Thomas Dimitrov. That's just my opinion. Number three, keep Aaron Rodgers. Listen, Aaron's not at this point, Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, maybe not Stafford. He's good. Aaron's going to be good. He's going to have an entire off season to bring back this Aaron Rodgers. And if you're watching the games, he's just more comfortable moving. He's moving better. That means he's planting better. It's working. It looks good. This is a good Aaron Rodgers. Definitely a top 12, 13 guy in the league now. And then number four is trade Garrett Wilson. Now, hold on here. Now, I know what you're saying, Colin. I don't like this. First of all, what is the one position that college football furnishes the NFL with 15 good players a year? Receiver. The jets need about two things. It's a good roster. It's not a great roster, but it's good. If you could, in my opinion, there's one great tight end in the first round from Michigan. Go get him. Then you can get a receiver to replace Garrett Wilson. Second, I don't think they have a third round pick. Second, fourth, fit. You can go find receivers. Puka Naku is in the fifth. You can do that. And Dimitrov was a good gm. So I think if you can get a first for Garrett Wilson, and here's why I think you can, it's a weak draft. There's a lot of good rush ends, some good offensive tackles, maybe one great wide receiver. It's not a particularly strong draft. So Garrett Wilson is absolutely, without question, better than 95% of the talent in this first round. He may not be Travis Hunter. He's right behind him. So in a weak draft, I absolutely believe teams would go get Garrett Wilson. Still in a rookie contract. Go get Garrett Wilson. He is unhappy. How can you be unhappy? I'm looking this morning at his targets, and I'm like, he's got 141 targets. That's more than Omaron St. Brown, Devonte Adams and Justin Jefferson. So I see light in this tunnel. Now Aaron sees light, too, but the way he sees light and darkness, probably different than me, but I see light in this tunnel. Get Vrabel Dimitrov, keep Aaron, trade Garrett Wilson. Go get two players in the first round. You got to get better. You probably have to get another receiver. You got your left tackle. He's banged up now, but you got your left tackle. You got your edge rushers, you got your corners. I would go get a tight end, which I don't love first round tight ends, but you need one. And there's one great one in the first round. And then I would get a receiver later. You probably want to get another pass rusher if you can, or interior lineman. But I see light here. But when you Hear Aaron and his comments on Woody Johnson. It's telling you that Kumbaya. They're doing their own thing now. Aaron's like, I won't be offended. Do what you got to do. That usually means the sides have stopped communicating. Okay, J. Mac, you're a very negative. I would say you have turned very sour on Aaron Rodgers, but that I convince you. Variable Dimitrov, keep Aaron, get another high pick for Garrett Wilson.
J Mac
It's not awful. I like the variable thing. I'm still looking at the gm. A quick dig on Garrett Wilson. So I wondered, why is he so high on the target chair? I don't know if we could get that back on the screen. The targets this season? Yeah, the top five guys. There's one thing in common with all those top five guys and targets. Malik Neighbors. Are they. Are they in the playoffs? Are the Cowboys, are the Bengals, are the Raiders. These are all terrible teams that are chasing points late in games. And Garrett Wilson also, by the way, had a 23 target game against the Vikings, the one in London where they didn't have Devonte Adams. So that's a little bit skewed.
Colin Cowherd
Okay.
J Mac
But I do like your idea. Let's see what Garrett Wilson fetches on the market. Because I'm looking at the draft. I put out the mock draft.
Colin Cowherd
You seem there's one great receiver.
J Mac
Arizona is very good.
Colin Cowherd
His name is T. Mac. I had dinner last night with one of his college teammates at Arizona. He is an unbelievable kid from a great high school program. Has. Has delivered. So he is a top eight, nine player.
J Mac
I had him go to the Cowboys. Yeah, McMillan.
Colin Cowherd
He's a great no bus potential.
J Mac
Travis Hunter, do you see him playing wide receiver or defensive back? He's going to want wide receiver. That's where the big money is. I think he's better than both those guys right now.
Colin Cowherd
Sorry.
J Mac
Better than both those.
Colin Cowherd
So again, in a weak draft, Garrett Wilson fetches a one.
J Mac
Can you get a one and a one and a three?
Colin Cowherd
I think you can get a one and a one and a four. I'm. I am gonna text during the break. I think you can get like a one and a four or five. It's a. Again, it's a weak draft at the top. I could make an argument right now that Garrett Wilson is guaranteed to be better than every single player in this draft.
Greg Cosell
Okay.
J Mac
So if you could get a 1 and it's a top 10 pick, you already have a top 10 pick. Now the jets are sitting pretty with two picks in the top 10. If you move off Garrett Wilson, right? You know, that's not bad.
Colin Cowherd
Their need. The tight end is a need. There's one at about 17 to 25.
J Mac
Okay, look, well, Tyler Warren from Penn State. We love him.
Colin Cowherd
We do. Yeah, you're right. No, no, he is. Well, my bad. There's two good tight ends first round.
J Mac
The Aaron Rodgers thing comes down to this. One of your big tenants. You don't like noise in teams. Wacky out of the off the field stuff. You don't like that Rogers gives you that crap every week with these paid TV appearances. I don't personally want that. Colin, why are you changing courses, saying, you know what, it's noise, we'll take it on.
Colin Cowherd
I think I've come to terms with this is I and I've made mistakes on this. I was all in on Kyler. The bottom line in this league. Start looking at your standings. Why am I able to predict seven of the eight division winners? Who's the best quarterback? Aaron for one more year. I think Drake May is surging. Yeah, okay. And he's not Josh Allen. But my takeaway is Vrabel brings stability. Dimitrov brings stability. Get the unhappy receiver out. Bring stability. You just say, Aaron, you're up front with him. This we're going to do a two year deal. Team option year two. But we're going to surround you with good players. And we got Mike Frable and I don't think Aaron will. First of all, he came to New York with pressure. Then he got injured. Now there's injury pressure. This will be an in. This will be a pressure free year. The pressure now is on the organization. So Aaron goes to New York and there's like, I got to prove it. And then he gets hurt and he comes back and it's like, okay, prove it. You're an old guy off an injury. I think Aaron would go into year three, no injury, playing well. At the end of the year, they have a bad season. There's no pressure on him. Nobody's going to pick him to go to the playoffs. It is a perfect. And you know, listen, I watched the documentary on Aaron and it again, it's a bit self indulgent for me. A bit for me. But you know what? Aaron doesn't like me and we've had our issues. But here's the thing. If you go to the last eight games, he can still sling it. You know, you say he's expensive. I'm looking around the league, he's not that expensive. He's not bankrupting you. So I My take is if this was a strong quarterback class, I wouldn't maybe feel this way. It's dreadful.
J Mac
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
There may not be a third.
J Mac
Okay, so your guy Sean Payton, when he went to Denver, do you remember one of the first things he did? Russell Wilson had like his own office.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah.
J Mac
He had all these privileges and Sean Payton said, yeah, we're cutting that out. No, no. Do you think Vrabel can go to Aaron Rodgers and say, hey, man, I don't want you going on weekly. I don't want you doing weekly. I don't care how much you break. It is non football stuff and it's taking away. It's changing the narrative away from this team.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know.
J Mac
Self indulgent. I would like you to stop that.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, I. First, that hasn't happened. Second, I'm not sure what Aaron would say.
J Mac
Okay, well, Russell Wilson said, hey, Coach.
Colin Cowherd
Yep. Yep.
J Mac
I want to win.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I don't want to get into Aaron's personal side businesses. I don't know what he'd do. I don't know if Rabel would do that. Vrabel certainly strong enough to do that. But I'm just telling you is that we. We do this every year. Three years ago, I picked the Vikings to be the surprise team. Last year, Rams. This year, Denver. And one of the things I always look at is, do you check the boxes? Vrabel would check a box. Left tackle, Penn State. Weapon, edge, rusher, corner. They check every box. Every. I look at traits and boxes. That's how I pick Washington to make the playoffs. Weapon. I like the coach, coordinator, quarterback. They got a pass rush. They went and got Lattimore because they were weak at corners. So it's. It's all boxes. Aaron may be the weakest box at 41, but he. He checks a box. All right, listen, I can't solve the world's problems. I'll start with the Jets. All right, take a break. Back with J. Mac in la, the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. If you're looking to set the standard in athletic clothing and activewear apparel for performance, look no further than Vuori. Vuori integrates the best of fitness, the best of surf, sport and art. Two of my personal favorites. The men's core short. It's the most comfortable lined athletic shirt you'll find. And the men's Sunday performance jogger, perfect for lounging or any work activity. Viori has the women covered as well with their women's performance jogger. It's the softest jogger you'll ever own. Also check out the Women's Jogger Daily legging featuring a high waist drawstring tie, an upgraded no slip fit. Incredibly versatile. Plenty of new colors just came in, but hurry, get them while you can. Vuori is designed to look great in everyday life outside the gym. It's not a brand, it's a way of life. Vuori is an investment in your happiness. For our listeners. They're offering 20% off your first purchase. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet@viori.com column that's v u o r I.com Colin not only will you receive 20% off your first purchase, but you're also going to get free shipping on any US orders over 75 bucks and free returns go to viori.com Colin Discover the versatility of Vuori clothing. V U O R I hey, this.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no, no.
Lavar Arrington
Turn on the news.
Colin Cowherd
This is the herd line news.
J Mac
All right, let's start with Lamar Jackson breaking Michael Vick's record for most rushing yards by a quarterback yesterday in the beat down over the Texans. Lamar's got 6110 career rushing yards, one more yard than Vic. Vic had that record for 13 years. But the most impressive part is how Quickly it took Lamar to break it. VIC 143 games in 13 seasons. Lamar done in 102 games in only seven seasons. Cam Newton is third on the list. Russell Wilson a bit of a surprise at 4. Lamar, listen, the game wasn't much of a fun one yesterday. Lamar had a nice touchdown run. He made it look easy. He's pretty spectacular player.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean they're all different. Lamar and Michael were electric. Cam was probably better from the pocket initially, but more inconsistent. Russell was kind of managing the game early, elusive. They all kind of had a different style. But I think I would say this is that I felt like with Michael, Vic, Cam, Russell Wilson to a degree, I kind of saw what they were early and what they is what they were. They were all good and they improved. I think Lamar Jackson's growth from the pocket where I consider him now a really elite pocket passer, it's not pretty. The way you see kind of Philip Rivers, he kind of different. It looks like it's just off a little bit, but. But whereas I always felt Cam came into the league and he could throw from the pocket. Big statuesque guy. Russell was a good pocket thrower early. You know, I mean he. The raindrop balls. Michael Vick got better. But I think Lamar's growth, remember he came in, he was thin, he put on weight, he developed into an elite pocket passer. I, I think he has grown into like Lamar's not that far away in my opinion, despite the postseason stuff, he's not that far away from a Hall of Famer. Okay. I mean if a third mvp, I think you're a Hall of Famer.
J Mac
What is Cam Newton a Hall of Famer?
Colin Cowherd
Not. He never had back to back winning season.
J Mac
Thank you.
Colin Cowherd
Lamar wins 76% of his games every year. Yeah, I know he's not great in the postseason, but that's so. I mean think how great Aaron Rodgers was and think how good the organization was. He got one.
J Mac
I'm really curious how this AFC bracket shakes out. So last year the Chiefs went through Buffalo and Baltimore on the road. This year they might be able to do it at home.
Colin Cowherd
I know.
J Mac
You think they could beat both those teams again in the playoffs?
Colin Cowherd
Yes, I think, I think Kansas City's better than last year.
J Mac
Stop it. No way. Come on. Well, let's dovetail into story number two, which is about your Chiefs. Because Colin, they have some strange company. You just said they're better than last year. This was a mind blowing stat that emerged on Christmas Day. Kansas City is one of four teams in the NFL to score 30 or less points in every game. Four teams. We've got the four teams for you. The Chiefs are one. The other three are the three 12 Patriots, the three and 12 Raiders, and the two and 13 Giants. That is some interesting company because the Chiefs, by not scoring, look like one of the worst teams in the league statistically. Yet they're 14 or, I'm sorry, 15 one now.
Colin Cowherd
Well, that's because unlike the Patriots, Raiders and Giants, the Chiefs are the best. Best situational team yesterday, one for one on fourth down. You know, yesterday's a prime example, is when it came to the big one or two stands.
J Mac
Russell Wilson, interception in the end zone.
Colin Cowherd
I mean, it just. They are so great. Situ. And we got into this discussion. We fall in love with a sizzle. Very few super bowl champs. Even the great Lynn Swan catches. Steelers were known for their defense. We just get caught up in the sizzle. That's not what wins Super Bowls. It's trenches. It's toughness. As you watch the Niners regress why the O line's not as good and the D line's not as good. It wasn't about Debo. It was always about their dominant defensive line anchored by Bosa. Yesterday. No Chris Jones. You see the pass rush? Yeah.
J Mac
They had like, 17 sacks of Russell Wilson. I. I don't. I just. Again, you're watching that yesterday and tell me you didn't have the thought off. This is so boring. There's no system.
Colin Cowherd
Where's the Juice?
J Mac
Where's the pop? Lamar had like three better or more interesting plays than the Chiefs had any offensively. I didn't. I don't see it like.
Colin Cowherd
I see greatness. You see boring.
J Mac
Boring. Yeah, they might. Listen, chief, the fan base doesn't like me, obviously, because of stuff I've said on the show. If they win another super bowl, may have to call in sick the day.
Colin Cowherd
After they're winning this. It's just. Can Philadelphia beat him?
J Mac
Wait, so you're certain they're getting by Buffalo, Kansas City?
Colin Cowherd
I'm not saying who I'm rooting for. I love Andy Reed and Mahomes. I think Buffalo's a better story, but I'm taking Kansas City and Philadelphia and all based on health. I'll make my prediction. That week.
J Mac
What do you think the Bills was going through the mind watching the Chiefs win that? Locking up home field advantage? Are they just like, oh, my gosh.
Colin Cowherd
I think they're. I think they watch that. And they started making plans early February for Cancun.
J Mac
Final story. There is a breaking news element here. Colin. So yesterday Jimmy Butler news popped. Actually, it's been breaking for a couple months. It seems like his agent's using a reporter to put this out there. Reports claim Butler wanted to be traded before the deadline on February 6. He was open to the Suns, the Warriors, the Mavs, the Rockets, basically trying to call his shot. And Eric Spolster has been telling reporters, we want Jimmy here. Well, within the last 30 minutes, Miami Heat put out a statement through Pat Riley. We are not trading Jimmy Butler. Riley there saying we don't comment on rumors. The speculations become a distraction from the team and the coaches. We are not trading Jimmy Butler. Everybody can stand down. Jimmy Butler and his agent probably not thrilled because I think he wants to go to a contender, right? I mean, he's got one big fat contract coming left.
Colin Cowherd
Nick Saban once said, I am not leaving the Miami Dolphins for Alabama. Oh, Miami is one of those cities where people change their mind morally flexible. Something about that aqua water and the pretty people. Things change in Miami. They don't change in Iowa. It's cold today, it's cold tomorrow. Miami all it takes a couple Mai Tai's and a look at that aqua water. Things change.
J Mac
Coastal elite cowherd strikes again. Things don't change in Iowa. Well, I mean, what is that, Iowa? Catching strays on Boxing Day? Come on, bro, that's harsh.
Colin Cowherd
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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 2 Featuring Greg Cosell
Release Date: December 26, 2024
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Guest: Greg Cosell, NFL Films Analyst (45 years experience)
Colin Cowherd opens the episode by reflecting on the holiday season, sharing personal anecdotes about family gatherings and expressing hope for a joyous and safe new year. He briefly mentions the excitement surrounding upcoming NFL games and teases a “four-point plan for the Jets” to be unveiled later in the show.
Greg Cosell:
“There’s been a little misconception about the Chiefs. This is a Mahomes-driven offense... [04:52]”
Colin and Greg delve into the Kansas City Chiefs' offensive strategy, emphasizing Patrick Mahomes' pivotal role. Greg highlights Mahomes' efficiency, noting that in his last six games, Mahomes has not thrown an interception despite leading the league in dropbacks. This pass-first approach, combined with strong third-down conversions and time of possession, has allowed the Chiefs to control the game tempo effectively.
Notable Quote:
“Patrick Mahomes is playing really well... he’s controlling the game with incredible efficiency.” — Greg Cosell [05:35]
Colin Cowherd:
“We both like Sam Darnold... [06:04]”
The discussion shifts to Sam Darnold, focusing on his growth as a quarterback. Greg identifies two key traits that have improved Darnold’s performance: pocket movement and the ability to make late throws under pressure. These enhancements have increased his efficiency and effectiveness, addressing earlier concerns about bad reads and interceptions.
Notable Quote:
“He’s much more efficient and much more effective when he moves within the pocket.” — Greg Cosell [06:34]
Colin Cowherd:
“I find it fascinating because when LaFleur was in Tennessee... [07:29]”
Colin and Greg explore the increasing emphasis on the run game across the NFL. Greg notes that the year is seeing a resurgence of running backs with over 300 carries, highlighting Josh Jacobs and the Packers’ multifaceted run strategies. They discuss how motion and diverse formations have become critical in modern offensive schemes, making teams like the Packers highly versatile.
Notable Quote:
“We’re seeing a lot more multiplicity with teams that run the ball.” — Greg Cosell [08:14]
Colin Cowherd:
“It seems to me that it's not just Derrick Henry’s talent... [09:07]”
The conversation turns to Derrick Henry’s performance with the Baltimore Ravens. Greg attributes Henry’s renewed dominance to both his inherent power-running ability and the strategic defensive alignments required to account for Lamar Jackson. This dual factor has enabled Henry to excel despite defensive challenges.
Notable Quote:
“Henry can take it to the house for his size on any given play, and that combination is really hard to beat.” — Greg Cosell [10:19]
Colin Cowherd:
“We have three really, really good Saturday NFL games... [14:29]”
Greg analyzes the Los Angeles Rams’ defense, praising their adaptability and the effective use of a dime package. Emphasizing their reliance on young talent like Jared Verse, Greg commends the Rams for their evolving defensive strategies and their commitment to a strong run game supported by Kyron Williams.
Notable Quote:
“This is a Safety driven defense with a front four that’s young and improving.” — Greg Cosell [15:15]
Colin Cowherd:
“I have a belief in quarterbacks as IF guys... [16:16]”
The discussion shifts to quarterback evaluations, focusing on Brock Purdy of the San Francisco 49ers and Cooper Rush of the Dallas Cowboys. Colin expresses skepticism about the value of "IF" quarterbacks—those who require ideal conditions to excel. Greg agrees, highlighting Purdy’s dependency on a strong offensive line and effective run game. They also commend Cooper Rush for his adaptability and decisiveness under pressure, despite not being Dak Prescott.
Notable Quote:
“Most quarterbacks in the league are IF quarterbacks based on your definition.” — Greg Cosell [17:40]
Colin Cowherd:
“I have a four-point plan for the Jets... [25:00]”
Colin unveils his four-point plan for improving the New York Jets, heavily featuring Greg Cosell’s insights. Key elements include:
Hiring Mike Vrabel as Head Coach:
Greg supports Vrabel’s ability to build a robust defense and an effective run game.
Appointing Thomas Dimitrov as General Manager:
Greg praises Dimitrov's aggressive and successful management style, referencing his work with the Atlanta Falcons.
Retaining Aaron Rodgers:
Emphasizing Rodgers’ talent and recent performance improvements, Greg advocates for keeping Rodgers as the Jets’ cornerstone quarterback.
Trading Garrett Wilson:
Despite initial resistance, Greg argues that trading Wilson could yield significant first-round draft picks, allowing the Jets to acquire additional top-tier talent.
Notable Quotes:
“Mike Vrabel is going to build a team, defense, O-line, run game around.” — Greg Cosell [27:00]
“Aaron’s playing very good football... he’s a top 12, 13 guy in the league now.” — Colin Cowherd [37:40]
J Mac:
“Lamar Jackson breaking Michael Vick's record... [48:22]”
The episode concludes with a discussion on Lamar Jackson surpassing Michael Vick’s record for most rushing yards by a quarterback. Greg and Colin compare Jackson’s versatility and continued growth to past dynamic QBs, suggesting that Jackson is on a trajectory toward Hall of Fame consideration.
Notable Quote:
“Aaron may be the weakest box at 41, but he checks a box.” — Colin Cowherd [39:18]
“Lamar's growth from the pocket... he is not that far away from a Hall of Famer.” — Colin Cowherd [50:29]
Colin and Greg wrap up with final thoughts on the Chiefs’ playoff prospects, the significance of defensive strength over flashy offenses, and ongoing player developments. They underline the importance of strategic team-building and maintaining strong defensive units to secure playoff success.
Final Notable Quote:
“It’s trenches. It’s toughness. That’s what wins Super Bowls.” — Colin Cowherd [52:35]
In this episode of "The Herd," Colin Cowherd and guest Greg Cosell provide insightful analyses on various NFL topics, including team strategies, quarterback evaluations, and player performances. Highlighting the Chiefs’ Mahomes-driven efficiency, the evolving importance of the run game, and strategic team-building for the Jets, the discussion offers valuable perspectives for both avid fans and casual listeners seeking a deeper understanding of current NFL dynamics.