Hour 2 - Incentives, Fumbles, Grito's

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Hour 2 - Incentives, Fumbles, Gritos
Release Date: May 6, 2025
Host/Authors: Covino, Rich, and Danny G
Platforms: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Covino, Rich, and Danny G delve into the concept of "fumbles" both in the business world and the realm of sports. Drawing parallels between missed opportunities in corporate strategies and critical mistakes in athletic decisions, the trio offers insightful commentary on what leads to these pivotal missteps. Additionally, the hosts interact with callers, enriching the discussion with diverse perspectives and real-life examples.

Main Discussion: Incentives and Fumbles in Business and Sports

Lack of Incentives: The Pizza Delivery Analogy ([02:35])

Covino opens the discussion by highlighting the importance of incentives using a relatable analogy from everyday life—the pizza delivery experience. He critiques the shift to third-party delivery services where tipping occurs beforehand, diminishing the delivery driver's motivation to provide excellent service. Covino states:

"Businesses need to know, and it's more of a life problem. It's a fight problem and a life problem. I'll explain. I think the reason that the fight stinks so hard is that they have no incentive to fight. They're getting paid so much money. What are they fighting for? They're just dancing around. They're already paid."
— Covino [02:35]

Business Fumbles: Skype, Blockbuster, MySpace, and More

The hosts transition to discussing major business fumbles, beginning with Skype's recent shutdown after 22 years. They ponder why Skype failed to capitalize on its robust infrastructure during the COVID-19 pandemic, allowing Zoom to dominate the video conferencing space. Covino remarks:

"When you think of Skype, because Skype should have been and could have been that brand, we all went to and said, Zoom took over out of nowhere. What were other ones that totally blew the opportunity."
— Covino [06:31]

Blockbuster: The conversation shifts to Blockbuster's notorious decision to reject Netflix's acquisition offer in the early 2000s. Despite early insights into digital streaming, Blockbuster clung to its physical rental model, leading to its downfall. Rich emphasizes:

"Blockbuster could have absorbed Netflix for $50 million. And Blockbuster was so cocky and said, nah, we're good."
— Rich [11:25]

MySpace: Another significant misstep discussed is MySpace's refusal to acquire Facebook for $75 million, a decision that led to its eventual obsolescence as Facebook emerged as the leading social media platform. Covino notes:

"MySpace could have acquired Facebook for $75 million. Another misstep for $75 million. That's another fumble."
— Covino [14:23]

Toys R Us and Kodak: The hosts also highlight Toys R Us's failure to embrace e-commerce and Kodak's inability to adapt to digital photography as prime examples of companies that missed critical opportunities due to resistance to change. Danny G adds:

"Toys R Us didn't innovate, so they died. They did not capitalize on the online retail boom."
— Danny G [16:22]

Sports Fumbles: Buffalo Bills and NBA Draft Mistakes

Shifting to sports, the hosts discuss notorious fumbles like the Buffalo Bills' narrow Super Bowl losses and the NBA's infamous draft choices, such as the Portland Trail Blazers selecting Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan. Covino reflects:

"The Yankees sold for $10 million and are now worth possibly up to $10 billion. That's one of the most storied, expensive franchises."
— Covino [17:02]

Caller Contributions: Additional Examples and Insights

Throughout the episode, callers contribute additional examples of fumbles in both business and sports, enriching the discussion:

• Mike from Virginia ([19:34]): Highlights the Buffalo Bills' Super Bowl losses and compares them to contemporaneous teams like the Dallas Cowboys.

• Caleb from Boise ([21:17]): Discusses the Portland Trail Blazers' draft choices, specifically selecting Greg Oden over Kevin Durant.

• Marley from Rochester ([21:51]): Brings up Kodak's failure to adapt to the digital era and the missed opportunity for partnership with tech giants like Apple.

• Eric from Virginia ([23:35]): Mentions Yahoo's missed opportunity to acquire Google, underscoring the long-term financial implications.

• John from Colorado ([32:31]): Reminisces about Excite.com declining to purchase Google for $700,000, a decision that now seems monumental.

These interactions underscore the recurring theme: the critical importance of recognizing and seizing opportunities to avoid becoming obsolete.

Cinco de Mayo Gritos Contest

In celebration of Cinco de Mayo, the hosts introduce an interactive "gritos" (celebratory shouts) contest, encouraging listeners to participate for a chance to win prizes. Covino explains the rules:

"All you have to do is do your best grito. That's it. Now what's a greto? It's a celebration cry of sorts."
— Covino [41:06]

Participants are invited to showcase their best gritos, with multiple winners set to receive rewards such as Swiggy gift cards. This segment adds a festive and engaging element to the episode, fostering listener interaction and community spirit.

Conclusion

The episode culminates with a powerful message about the necessity of innovation and adaptability. Covino succinctly sums up:

"The moral of everything we're getting at right now. It's when opportunity knocks, you have to be ready to answer."
— Covino [25:47]

Rich adds a final thought on the significance of seizing moments:

"It's a matter of opportunity and really seizing that moment."
— Rich [26:02]

As the episode wraps up, listeners are reminded to embrace change and remain vigilant in recognizing opportunities to prevent their own "fumbles" in both personal and professional spheres.

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Notable Quotes:

• Covino [02:35]: "Businesses need to know, and it's more of a life problem. It's a fight problem and a life problem. I'll explain. I think the reason that the fight stinks so hard is that they have no incentive to fight. They're getting paid so much money. What are they fighting for? They're just dancing around. They're already paid."

• Rich [11:25]: "Blockbuster could have absorbed Netflix for $50 million. And Blockbuster was so cocky and said, nah, we're good."

• Covino [14:23]: "MySpace could have acquired Facebook for $75 million. Another misstep for $75 million. That's another fumble."

• Danny G [16:22]: "Toys R Us didn't innovate, so they died. They did not capitalize on the online retail boom."

• Covino [25:47]: "The moral of everything we're getting at right now. It's when opportunity knocks, you have to be ready to answer."

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Key Takeaways:

• Incentives Matter: Without proper incentives, whether in business or sports, motivation and performance can decline significantly.

• Adapt or Perish: Companies and organizations that fail to adapt to changing environments and technologies risk obsolescence.

• Seize Opportunities: Recognizing and acting upon opportunities promptly is crucial to sustained success and growth.

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For those who missed this episode, be sure to listen to The Herd with Colin Cowherd on iHeartPodcasts or The Volume to stay informed on the top sports stories and insightful discussions.

Transcript

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[Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich]

Find your local station for Cavino and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Wow.

[Covino]

I was Sam Broadcasting live from Fox Sports Radio studios, It's CNR on FSR Covino and Rich again. Hope you had a happy 4th. May the 4th be with you. And happy Cinco de Mayo today. Hope you had a great weekend. Not a boxing weekend, not a UFC weekend, not a fight weekend. Pacers, warriors, sort of weekend. Hope you had a sweet weekend. Let's have a great week. We're going to give away some prizes. Can you beat Sam the Champion in a Grito contest? Probably not, but we'll see. Plus, we be rocking out. Let's go Cavino and Rich. And Rich. Not only were the fights miserable, we had that miserable pizza experience that we talked about.

[Rich]

I called the pizzeria during the commercial. No joke.

[Covino]

Well, the delivery guy delivered the pizzas like, like he was holding a Trapper Keeper. It's like delivering a birthday cake sideways. Like, are you serious, dude?

[Rich]

And that was the gist of it. I called the pizzeria and I said, I don't want anything free. I just want you to know that I'm a big fan of your Place, one of my favorites. Here in the Valley, you had an Uber Eats guy holding your pizzas vertically, delivering them late, and he's like, thanks for knowing that. He took my order number so that he could pinpoint not to allow that guy delivering from his place anymore.

[Covino]

Businesses need to know, and it's more of a life problem. It's a fight problem and a life problem. I'll explain. I think the reason that the fight stinks so hard is that they have no incentive to fight. They're getting paid so much money. What are they fighting for? They're just dancing around. They're already paid. Much like your pizza, you have to tip. Mike, who runs this place was making such a good point. He said he used to deliver pizzas.

[Rich]

Remember Mike who delivered pizzas?

[Covino]

Mike who delivered pizzas back in the day would have to provide good service to earn a tip. When you're ordering through the third party, like grubhub, they make you put the tip in first. So you're taking away total incentive for a good job. You already tipped them and you know if you don't tip them, you're going to get even worse service. So you, as the customer, lose it in every way possible.

[Rich]

I don't know.

[Covino]

It's the fact that we're not giving people incentive to do a good job anymore.

[Rich]

I don't know why that became a thing. Have you guys all noticed that too? Where you could be at a food court, you know, ordering on a digital screen, you could be ordering on a third party app.

[Covino]

You're tipping before you even know what the service is about.

[Rich]

That makes zero sense.

[Covino]

And you're paying these fighters a lot of money before they even deliver.

[Rich]

Tipping before you get the meal is like people that grade the NFL draft before a player stepped on the field. How do you know? You don't know.

[Covino]

Have to incentivize certain things in sports and certain things in life. That's what I'm getting at. I'm Kavino, that is Rich. Danny G. Is on the phones at 87799 on Fox. Iowa, Sam is here. DB like I said, prizes this hour, so stick around. 87799 on Fox. Now, today I got to give credit to our guy, Jack Mack. Speaking of barstool.

[Rich]

Oh, you know, I have to give credit to that little girl that seemed happy after Noah Arenado landed on her.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, I watch.

[Rich]

I was watching that game live because it was Mets, Cardinals. Nolan Arenado jumps into the stands, makes a great catch, almost Allah Jeterish. But there's the screen there now. So, you know, it sort of, you know, trampolines your fall a little bit.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

There's a little girl, and he lands in her lap, and he bounces up. He's like, oh, my God. Tries to give her the ball through the net. They get it to her. This little girl's all smiles. It could have been bad because, Danny, imagine a grown man like you or I jumping and landing on a little kid.

[Danny G]

And that's the wor dude, sometimes, I don't know, KO Is trailing me. Like, when I'm walking through the house and I'll stop and he'll boom and fall. I'm like, oh, my God. And I feel bad doing that. I feel bad knocking my kid down. I can't imagine landing on him.

[Covino]

Danji, didn't you jump in a giant ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese and land on a kid you didn't know.

[Rich]

He was onto that?

[Danny G]

That was back in my big eating days, Danny.

[Covino]

Just like, oh, man, I'm so sorry about that.

[Rich]

I smushed your kid, mister. Get off me.

[Covino]

I think he almost killed the kid. So got to give credit to that girl, but also Jack Mack from Barstool. And I said, speaking of, we had KFC on our bonus pod recently from Barstool. That's on fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Check out Over Promise. That was episode 89. We're on 90 now. Over Promise our bonus pod. But I heard Jack Mack talking about something that you and I have brought up many, many, many times before, Rich. So I only give him so much credit because we've talked about this so many times. But today's the day. Today's the final day. That's what I didn't know. That's what I'm crediting Jack Mack for the update on, you know, today after 22 years, is the final day of Skype. Skype called it quits today. And when you think about it, when you were making a FaceTime sort of call, that was your go to place for a long time.

[Rich]

Video calls were done in one capacity at one point. Skype.

[Covino]

That's all we had. Skype or FaceTime maybe. Right?

[Rich]

But FaceTime came after FaceTime came after.

[Covino]

Skype was the OG well, if you want to be accurate about it, I believe Pee Wee Herman invented it first. Pee Wee Herman had that guy. Nobody had that video messaging. He had that video call screen back then.

[Rich]

Fair enough. Before all that, it was Pee Wee Herman. But after Pee Wee Herman, who, by the way, his documentary looks really good.

[Covino]

It does end of May, Skype was the OG when it came to video calls. So Covid came around and you would think, all right, let's all get on Skype to talk to our friends and family, because we're all here quarantined and coworkers and co workers. Skype. That's what we had our meetings on. Yeah, man, we'll Skype somebody. Whatever. I was in a long distance relationship. Skype. Everything was Skype. And then when you needed video calls, because we were all again, quarantined, all of a sudden, Zoom became a thing. And what happened to Skype? Here's what happened to Skype. He dropped the ball.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So let's talk about the biggest fumbles in life, because today, after 22 years, it's over. Stick a fork in it. Skype is just a memory. It's just an old thing that we used to use. So when you think of other fumbles, the biggest fumbles in life, aside from the butt fumble, which is the king.

[Rich]

Of all fumbles, I'll give you one. Roger Craig. Roger Craig. Fumbling in 1990 when the Niners are.

[Covino]

Trying to 3ft aside from Mark Sanchez, what are other fumbles in life?

[Rich]

It could be holding the extra point.

[Covino]

It could be.

[Rich]

Yeah, it could be.

[Covino]

It could be sports related. That's fine. But it could also be just life related or business related. Because when you think of Skype, because Skype should have been and could have been that brand, we all went to and said, Zoom took over out of nowhere. What were other ones that totally blew the opportunity. I think I'll give out the obvious one, Rich, because Blockbuster is always the company that comes to mind.

[Rich]

I know the details on all this because I am 2000s boy. I'm also on SiriusXM Pop 2K, and I've mentioned this quite a bit over the years, the way Skype sort of lost to Zoom, and you're like, how did that happen? You were the guy. Skype. How do you let that slip by? Like, how. How do you let Covid and a pandemic happen five years ago and not be the video person?

[Covino]

This was your. The moment you've been waiting for.

[Rich]

You would think, right? It's like, I almost feel like that company is like, one day the world's gonna need us. And what, they weren't ready.

[Covino]

That's. That's really the bottom line. Yeah. Infrastructure wasn't there. People weren't in place. They weren't ready for the moment. And Zoom Take took over.

[Rich]

So I'm gonna give you the two best examples that I could think of. And then whether it is sports, metaphorically, a fumble or an actual fumble, the biggest fumbles of all time. It could be an athlete that missed an opportunity, an opportunity to buy a team or do something, and maybe a big trade wasn't executed. The biggest quote, fumbles.

[Covino]

Shaq Mac says Skype. Not delivering in that moment or failing in that moment is only second to maybe Falcons Pats, you know what I mean, in the Super Bowl. Oh, I hear like, how do you blow this opportunity?

[Rich]

You're. You're Skype. You blew it. You know how they always say there's things like brands that are synonymous that you actually say the brands, like Band Aid is actual A brand or Q top Q tips, Kleenex. You would Skype. Was what you should have said? Skype.

[Covino]

Yeah, I'm gonna Skype. Yeah, get on Skype. We're gonna Skype tonight or we're gonna Skype the meeting. Skype, Skype, Skype. What was the. I remember the sound, but do no Skype. Yeah, it was.

[Rich]

You know, I'm saying that anymore. The two that come to mind for me, Blockbuster, if you want. It's. It's been said in documentaries, and it's. You have the. You have the sound effect.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, that was it. Which one was I doing it?

[Rich]

I don't know. Maybe your own little jingle. Someone's Skyping you right now, but never hear that again. Yeah, it's like, that's gonna be. Put that in the archives. With the AOL signing on sound, Blockbuster, Blockbuster Video, back in the day, when they had a chance to pivot to digital, they thought their better move was, no, no, no. No late fees.

[Covino]

They banked on that.

[Rich]

They banked on no late fees. When everyone there were internal people saying, like, digital, we gotta go digital, they said, no, no, no, no. You know how we're gonna. We're gonna take it to the next level. No late fees. Not only did the company lose money, at one point, Blockbuster was approached by Netflix 25 years ago. In the early days of Netflix, when you were mailing. The early days of, like, mailing a dvd and Netflix said, listen, if you want, you could absorb us for $50 million. And Blockbuster said, now we're good.

[Covino]

Everybody made it a Blockbuster.

[Rich]

Blockbuster could have absorbed Netflix.

[Covino]

Everybody had the card. We were all invested with their streaming.

[Rich]

And mail infrastructure, and Blockbuster could have acquired Netflix for $50 million. And Blockbuster was so cocky and said, nah, we're good.

[Covino]

You know this Skype story. I bet you Blockbuster this is the best news Blockbuster got in a long time. Because Skype. This Skype story is just as bad. It really is. We didn't even know what Zoom was, and all of a sudden, it was like, a thing.

[Rich]

You know what the market cap for Netflix is today?

[Covino]

Guess what?

[Rich]

462 billion, dude.

[Covino]

And think of how weak Netflix was, too. Yes. They were sending DVDs to people. You had a. I had a sign into Netflix through my Xbox. 360 when I first got it.

[Rich]

It never worked. But you knew that there was something digital going on, and you knew that they're mailing DVDs and. But the simple fact that Blockbuster. How many times have big companies acquired little companies just to remain the brand leader? Right. Like, you just want to absorb so that you are still the brand leader. $50 million. No, thanks. And Netflix is now worth $482 billion. Market cap.

[Covino]

I got a sports one and another one to go along with this.

[Rich]

Go ahead.

[Covino]

When you're talking about biggest fumbles in life or missteps, however you want to describe it, for Skype, not to be what Zoom is today. Man, What a disappointment. 22 years of business ended today. The classic one has to be the Red Sox trading Babe Ruth. Right? Like, what a misstep that was because the Yankees built their whole legacy around that guy.

[Danny G]

Then bets.

[Covino]

Yeah, there's a. There's a lot of classic examples, you know, in sports history. Certain people were passed on. There's always classic examples there.

[Rich]

I mean, I think every team can name one legend that got away.

[Covino]

Exactly.

[Rich]

I mean, you could say the Mets. Nolan Ryan. The Mets were like, yeah, whatever. Get out of here. Nolan Ryan. The Red Sox got David Ortiz because the Twins were like. The Twins. Like, yeah, he's. He's not even gonna start.

[Covino]

I mean, they didn't pass on him, but they got rid of him. He was just in. I think he hit 11 home runs with the Twins. When it comes to Skype, I think of MySpace because MySpace was something great at one point. Social media, MySpace never even made it to something on your phone, ever. And I thought it had such a perfect infrastructure for the time because you could personalize it. You made your top eight. You were communicating with people. You're meeting people all over the country, flirting with women, making friends, and then all of a sudden, you let all these bots and fake profiles infiltrate the system, and somewhere along the line, it lost its way, and Facebook took over and MySpace was gone.

[Rich]

Danny G. I would have put you in my top eight back then.

[Covino]

We're boys like that. MySpace was fun, dude. That was.

[Rich]

The OG was great.

[Covino]

And of course there was friends through things, but MySpace was huge.

[Danny G]

And as the meme says, we were all computer programming our front pages. Remember?

[Covino]

That's what I'm saying. We were learning. Yeah, we're learning, coding, personalized with our favorite songs. Everybody had a certain page. It was fun. MySpace was dope. Facebook came along and wiped it out.

[Rich]

But it's even worse.

[Covino]

They misstep.

[Rich]

It's even worse than that because I.

[Covino]

Know Tom sold out and he made some cash.

[Rich]

Yeah, but. But listen, as similar to my blockbuster Netflix story, at one point, when they were both present in the social media space, Zuckerberg said, hey, listen, MySpace, if you want to buy us, the price tag is $75 million. And MySpace could have acquired Facebook. Another misstep for $75 million. Another fumble.

[Covino]

Look, Tom, I hear Tom's doing just fine.

[Rich]

Yeah, of course.

[Covino]

And remember, Justin Timberlake bought MySpace 2 at one point to try to save it, but it was such a great time at one point. And then they had a chance and they blew it.

[Rich]

Just to give you the math on that. Yeah, $75 million. MySpace said, Nah, nah, we're good, we're good. So Facebook. That's cute. We're good. The again, market cap for Meta, which is now Facebook, Instagram, and everything they own under that, Zuckerberg, which would have. The guy would have taken 75 miles. 1.5 trillion.

[Covino]

Yeah, talk about misstep.

[Iowa Sam]

It's the richest. Meta is now the richest company in the United States.

[Rich]

But how do you think MySpace. How do you think MySpace fields when whoever was running MySpace at the time said, no, we don't want to acquire you for $75 million? That might be the biggest business blunder of all time.

[Covino]

And by the way, on the day where Skype is done, and it should have been everything that Zoom is today, when they had their opportunity during the pandemic, what was that other one that had a chance, that had a thing for a minute, like the party room, what was it called where everyone was getting together?

[Rich]

House party. House party.

[Covino]

Remember, house party was a thing for a second, and people were hopping on just to get together and have, like a social night via the computer.

[Danny G]

Feel like everybody had a drink in their hand.

[Covino]

Everybody had a drink and, hey, I guess we'll do this. It's kind of fun. They had their moment, but Skype really blew it. So, other missteps or biggest fumbles in life, what else you got?

[Danny G]

Danny G. Toys R Us. You hear the stories about how they didn't innovate, so they died. They did not capitalize on the online retail boom. They dragged their feet. They didn't want to have a big online presence. They had a presence, but they didn't aggressively embrace E commerce.

[Covino]

Yeah, they believe that, you know, kids want to come in there and see the toys and the. In the. Just this experience of going to Toys R Us.

[Danny G]

Exactly. And so they left the market open for the competitors, Amazon, Walmart, Target. And they fell apart.

[Rich]

Yeah, it's a great one. Honestly, Toys R Us, you would think, how are they going to fall apart now? Your kids think of the toy store. You know what? They think the toy store is going mom to Target.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Couple of aisles. At Walmart, they got a few aisles. Let me give you one more.

[Covino]

When I think about it, let me.

[Rich]

Give you a spoiler.

[Danny G]

It is all of us new parents, we wish we could bring our kids to a.

[Covino]

You remember the thrill of man.

[Rich]

Toys R Us, the world's ever changing. I'm gonna give you one fumble. But since it's baseball related, I'll. I'll say this a good balk. This is a little balk, so to speak. The Yankees. I love this. I don't know why I bring it up at least once a year. One of the greatest bargains ever. I can't. I can't believe this was even real. In 1973, CBS, led by Head executive Michael Burke, sold the Yankees to George Steinbrenner Sr. For $10 million. Like, if you're. If you're early 50s, to think that the Yankees sold in your lifetime for $10 million, that's insane. To think they are now worth eight. And some people value possibly up to $10 billion that the Yankees are worth now. So one of the most storied, expensive franchises, you know, almost worth $10 billion. CBS just unloaded them to a private buyer for 10 mil. You're Yankees, dude.

[Covino]

It's insane. There's also so many classic examples of people that passed on legendary acting roles. And that could be you. A legendary opportunity you missed out on. So the biggest fumbles in life. Missed opportunities. Skype. Goodbye. It was nice knowing you. You should have been everything that Zoom is. You already had a head start. Everybody had it downloaded. Everybody knew what it was. Everybody had a screen name. Everybody had it on their phone. How did you mess that up? So what else comes to mind? Sports in Life. Hit us up. 87799 on Fox.

[Rich]

You ever see someone get a. You ever see Someone get a chance and then the chance is taken away because something happens personally for them before they even get a chance. Do you remember? I'm guessing you do because he was a Yankee and a Met and an Astro and a Cardinal and a lot of Texas Ranger. Carlos Beltran. Carlos Beltran was named the manager of the Mets and then his ties to the cheating Astros.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Made him have to step aside. So he never got a chance to manage a game in the majors yet. Maybe he will get that chance at one point. But I think to myself like that's a guy who's like this is my dream job. I love it. And before he started he couldn't even do it.

[Covino]

87799 on Fox.

[Rich]

Let's go to Mike in Virginia. Mike, you're on with cnr.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up guys? One thing I can always think of in a sports related football is the first time the Buffalo Bills went to the super bowl led by the Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas. That super bowl was literally hand wrapped to them and it just went wide right. And that was it. And then ever since then they, you know they went 04 for the Super bowl and now they're just trying to. But that literally was. They were the best team in football.

[Rich]

That, that was the year. Listen, they played better teams that you could argue that back to back Dallas Cowboy years where they lost two in a row to them. Cowboys were a dynasty better team. You could argue when they lost to the Redskins better team. But that season against the Giants that was a. Jeff Hostetler backup quarterback. Bills dominated. You're supposed to win that game. That, that's a. In fact the Giants found a way to beat the Niners in the NFC championship. So the Giants weren't even designed to be there. So yeah, that is a Buffalo fumble for sure.

[Covino]

I would say 1984 NBA draft. You can't hate on the Rockets choosing Olajuan but the Blazers with Sam Bowie's gotta be in the conversation. Passing on Michael Jordan. That has to be a classic example of oh my goodness, that's one that's not.

[Rich]

I don't think that's one you ever get over. Ever.

[Covino]

No. Like you had the chance to get Michael Jordan. We get it. Hindsight's 2020 but you had that opportunity. So Skype, we don't know what you did wrong but zoom took the ball as, as a. Yeah. As they say, took the ball and ran with it. Who else we got?

[Rich]

Boise. Caleb, you're on with cnr.

[Covino]

Hey Caleb.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up guys?

[Rich]

So Covino, you actually took one of mine.

[Caller]

But Portland actually fumbled two more times. They drafted LaRue Martin over Dr. J and then Greg Odin over Kevin Durant.

[Covino]

Wow. Yeah, that. Oh, and Odin, he looked like he was 45 years old then hobbling around.

[Rich]

I almost felt like I saw that one coming.

[Covino]

Yeah, that was a shame, man. That was a. That really was a shame. The poor guy just had bad knees too. So. Yeah, that's bad.

[Rich]

Marley in Rochester. What's up, Marley?

[Covino]

Marley.

[Caller]

I got two things. One, on the technological side, I live in Rochester. So. Hey, Kodak, you know. Hey, whatever happened to Kodak, man? It was supposed to be giants in the film.

[Rich]

I do, I do wonder, you know, with the advent of cameras on smartphones and now the camera on your phone is better than any handheld camera you ever had. Do you think there early on was an opportunity for Kodak to partner up with an Apple or a Samsung? You think early on they had to leaders.

[Covino]

It was name recognition when it came to photos.

[Rich]

I'm sure at some point there was a.

[Covino]

There was a collaboration Kodak moment. You know what I mean? We used it as an adjective.

[Rich]

I mean pitbull rhymes it twice in the same verse.

[Covino]

I was just going to say that.

[Danny G]

I looked it up. It says Kodak. Kodak did arguably blow a major innovation chance by failing to adapt to the digital photography revolution.

[Covino]

Yeah, they failed to adapt. That's probably, you know, that's the case for so many people just in life, Rich. We've seen people in radio refusing to adapt and their career fizzles.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Hey, remember that guy who did those great countdowns or whatever? Yeah. He refused to adapt, so that's why he never heard of him again.

[Rich]

You know who I thought did a great job adapting? I've said this before, but David Letterman. Letterman had the wherewithal to say and we live in a social media world now where late night clips exist. The next day my snarky interviews and you know, top 10 lists. It's time for me to retire and come back in a couple years with a fun interview show like Letterman. Read it.

[Covino]

Adapt.

[Rich]

Yeah, yeah, Letterman reads it perfectly. I always give that guy credit for that because he stuck. He could have stuck around too long and he never did. Eric in Virginia, what's up? Eric.

[Caller]

With the biggest fumbles, if I'm not mistaken. I think Yahoo had the chance to buy Google for a million dollars at one point.

[Rich]

I think you are correct in that one as well.

[Covino]

Again, how about Jeeves Chiefs probably had a shot I used to ask him all the time. I used to ask Jeeves everything. What happened to that guy.

[Iowa Sam]

Here's the thing, though. Can I just interject this? You don't have necessarily the direction or the vision if you're gonna buy that company. Sometimes, like the people who were running the original small company that eventually blows up, they stay with that company and they make decisions based on not getting acquired by a bigger company. You know what I mean? So, like, maybe you don't. Maybe Facebook or Meta, if it was bought by MySpace, doesn't come up with the like button and, like, you know, messenger and stories and, you know, it doesn't necessarily evolve the way that it did, just staying on its own.

[Covino]

What did Zoom offer that Skype couldn't? You know, I really think this Skype story is as colossal as Michael Jordan. It's up there. It's up there with Blockbuster, because I think we have a new one, because Blockbuster is always the one. Like, Blockbuster could have been Netflix. And they blew it. This Skype opportunity, this was everything they asked for, and he blew it.

[Iowa Sam]

Like, the infrastructure was already set with Skype to help out with COVID related issues.

[Covino]

What did Zoom offer that Skype didn't?

[Rich]

Nothing.

[Danny G]

Check out what Yahoo had to do in 98. They did offer what they passed up the $1 million. They declined. In 2002, they offered $3 billion, but Google countered with a $5 billion request.

[Rich]

Oh, and now it's probably even worth, you know, building times that.

[Dan Beyer]

I'll give you just a quick one. A fumble recovery, if you will.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Dan Beyer]

NFL, remember back in the mid-90s, the NFL is expanding. A lot of people are scratching their head how Jacksonville ended up getting a team, because at that point, it seemed there were other markets. Specifically, Baltimore was a team in St. Louis at the time. Now we saw the Rams end up moving to St. Louis. Baltimore obviously gets the Ravens, but because those two groups couldn't get their stuff in order, Jacksonville was ready. There's no way the NFL puts a team in Jacksonville nowadays. Like, it just doesn't. True, there's absolutely no way. But because maybe Baltimore and St. Louis didn't have everything that they needed, Jacksonville took the opportunity, and here they are 30 years later.

[Covino]

Dude, that really is the moral of everything we're getting at right now. It's when opportunity knocks, you have to be ready to answer. That's really what it comes down to. Skype was not ready for that opportunity. Even though they had everything or seemed like they had everything lined up.

[Rich]

I have arguably the best example I'll give you next, and it has to do with sports. I watch a great documentary and it just shows you everything in sports, in life, it's a matter of opportunity and really seizing that moment. We'll get to it next. Cinco de Mayo.

[Covino]

We'll get to it next.

[Rich]

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[Rich]

What day of Mayo is it? Cinco.

[Covino]

Aye yai yai, yai. All right. Shout out to all the vatos logos forever. Maybe after the games tonight, you can watch some blood in, blood out. Maybe La Bamba, Selena y Los Dinos American. Me, me familia. I don't know. Watch a classic or something. Have a margarita. Right now, we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

[Rich]

Gotta ask a fan of this or do you find it awkward? Tableside guac. When they make the guac in front of you, do you enjoy that? Are you like, oh, just make it and go like some people get awkward about it.

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[Rich]

I get awkward.

[Covino]

When the jabroni sits in the booth with you to take your order, you're like, yo, get out of my booth, dude. I only thought way too comfortable.

[Rich]

What is he, a hooters? Rachel?

[Covino]

Yeah. What are you sitting next to me for?

[Rich]

Get out of here, pal.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Well, if you want to embarrass someone on Cinco de Mayo, maybe the tableside guac doesn't do it. But no, I think everyone feels a little embarrassed when the mariachi just plays right in front of you.

[Covino]

That's always awkward. And what? It's always awkward when. When Stephanie McMahon says, Gracias, gracias. As the meme goes, gracias.

[Rich]

Want to go fire on these?

[Covino]

Yeah. We need to explain if you just joined us. Thanks again for hanging out. We're still giving away prizes. We're going to play a game real quick. But today was the end of Skype and it had every opportunity in the world to be zoom and zoom. Zoomed right past them somehow. And I started thinking, some other examples before, like, I know he had his reasons, Rich, but Dunkleman could have been Seacrest if he played his cards right.

[Rich]

Dunkleman had like a conscience, remember? He was like, I feel weird criticizing the kids. Meanwhile, Seacrest, like, hundreds of millions of dollars later.

[Covino]

Oh, my goodness. We'll go to your phone calls.

[Rich]

The biggest fumbles in life, a la Blockbuster and Netflix. Let's go to Steve in Charlotte. Hey, Steve, what's up?

[Caller]

I got. I got two in the honorable mention. The Giants for letting Saquon go over a little over a million dollars. Hell of a fumble. The Hornets for moving because we were in a as a playoffs every year in the 90s.

[Covino]

Yep.

[Caller]

We moved to New Orleans, came back, and we ain't been shit since.

[Rich]

Excuse me. It's okay.

[Covino]

It's all good, man.

[Rich]

You ain't been crap since. I feel you.

[Covino]

We got you.

[Rich]

Let's go to Lenny.

[Iowa Sam]

He didn't get his honorable mention in, but it's okay.

[Rich]

Lenny, what's up, bud?

[Caller]

Yeah, so sorry if you guys mentioned this already, but it was such an egregious whiff that even if you did, it's worth mentioning twice and appropriate for the playoffs. The Minnesota Timberwolves passing on Steph Curry not once, but twice. Yeah, in the 2009 draft.

[Covino]

It's hard thinking back. It really is. No, they had a chance. You know what? One of our favorite movies they say. The perfect movie. Rich. Back to the Future. Yeah, I mean, Eric Stoltz had that gig.

[Rich]

He just didn't deliver.

[Covino]

He didn't deliver. Like, be more money.

[Rich]

Be more Marty McFly.

[Covino]

Be more Michael J. Fox. And you would have been the legend.

[Rich]

I know John in Colorado. What's up, bud? John, hello. Yeah, you're on. Go ahead, quick.

[Caller]

No, I was wondering if you knew Excite.com.

[Rich]

Excite.Com. What about it?

[Caller]

Yes, the original search engine. Back in 1999, they could have bought Google for $700,000 and they passed on it.

[Rich]

These are things that haunt people's dreams.

[Covino]

Horrible.

[Rich]

These are things that haunt your dreams. Tyrone and Riverside. What's up, man?

[Caller]

What's up?

[Rich]

What's up?

[Caller]

So I got two places. One that refused to sell to Best Buy. Remember Circuit City?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Great electronic place. Bought my first 32 inch giant tube TV there.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And the other one. Do you remember a place called Best Catalog?

[Rich]

I don't, but someone. No, I don't.

[Caller]

The Internet you'd go in and you would fill out a card and they'd go out and they'd bring your stuff down a conveyor belt like jewelry or small furniture and things like that. And they couldn't adapt. When the Internet came along, they. They refused to sell out this called Death catalog.

[Covino]

So what lesson are we learning, guys? Innovate or die. Adapt. Adapt.

[Rich]

Susan, real quick, and I'll go to Dan Byer. Susan, what's your last one?

[Caller]

M and M's. When they didn't want to have them used in the movie E.T. yeah, Reese's took over. And M and M's. I'm sure they regretted it.

[Rich]

Yeah. I mean, listen, M and M's is just fine, but you know, that put like Reese's on the map. Reese's Pieces, that was a big win for them. In fact, that you know what? They sold more than Eminem.

[Covino]

Eminem thought that E.T. was too scary. Right. For the kids or something like that. Something like that.

[Iowa Sam]

I do think of those creepy fingers.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Iowa Sam]

Reaching out for the. For the Reese's Pieces.

[Rich]

Oh, I got. I got one more as we go to Dan Buyer. I know people hate him now, but Hulk Hogan, you know, he had that whole gimmick in the Wrestling Federation, the awa, but they were old school and they said, no, no, we want, like, they wanted the old guys. I saw this in a documentary. Like, you've heard names like Nick Bockwinkle and all those old. They're like, they're the champions, not this new Hulk Hogan guy. And Vince McMahon's like, we'll take them.

[Covino]

Wait, you were going to bring up Hulk Hogan? I bring up the grill.

[Danny G]

I was just going to say he.

[Covino]

Could have been the George Foreman spokesman.

[Rich]

Oh, yeah, that too. All right, Dan Beyer, what's going on? Db?

[Covino]

What up, db?

[Dan Beyer]

Guys, the big news of the day is the Baltimore Ravens have released kicker Justin Tucker. GM Eric DaCosta called it a football decision today. Tucker was an eight time All Pro during his 13 year career in Baltimore. He's been accused of sexual misconduct by 16 different massage therapists in the Baltimore area as they allege the inappropriate actions by Tucker took place between 2012 and 2016 at eight different spas and wellness centers. Tucker has again denied those allegations, but the Ravens moving on from their veteran kicker. The 2027 NFL Draft will be held in Washington D.C. on the National Mall between the U.S. capitol and Washington monuments.

[Rich]

I don't think there's ever been anything like that.

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[Rich]

That's a good idea.

[Covino]

In fact.

[Rich]

Maybe we could use it for other things also. I have an idea. It's, it's going to be beautiful. It's going to be something that nobody else will ever be able to duplicate that I don't suspect.

[Dan Beyer]

President Trump making the announcement next to Commissioner Roger Goodell and commander's owner Josh Harris earlier today. ESPN says Michigan head football coach Ron Moore will be suspended for two games for the upcoming season. The self imposed penalties by the school or for his connection to the Connor Stallions investigation. News from the NFL the Rams did sign wide receiver Brit Covey to a one year deal. The Rams and quarterback Matthew Stafford finalized his contract, which will pay him $44 million in 2025. Moving from football to basketball, Cavaliers head coach Kenny Atkinson was just named the NBA's coach of the year today for the 2024-25 season. Atkinson also said that they could be shorthanded for game two against the Pacers tomorrow as Evan Mobley and DeAndre Hunter were both dinged up in game one. Mobley Hunter and Darius Garland right now are officially listed as questionable for that game too. Tomorrow night, Utah Jazz give head coach Will Hardy a contract extension through the 203031 season. Guys, back to you.

[Covino]

Thank you, Dan Beyer.

[Rich]

Thanks DB Tonight, are you excited about you going to watch the Knicks Celtics?

[Covino]

I am.

[Rich]

Is that the one on your radar?

[Covino]

Team won the Eastern semifinals and Nuggets Thunder. So yeah, some great games to watch tonight. Oh yeah, and the Yankees. Padres pumped about that from them. I should I see the Padres at the Yankees?

[Rich]

Yeah, it's going to be going. Those are two, two playoff teams for sure. All right. We got more coming up now. I was Sam, hit me with a greet though, will you?

[Iowa Sam]

That was one from last year.

[Covino]

We did it last Cinco de Mayo. So if you could beat Sam the champion. Not Sam Champion, the weatherman. If you could beat Sam the champion or come close, our Greeto Bandito, our winner from last year. Or come close or you just represent well with your best grito. To celebrate Cinco de Mayo, we'll give away a Swiggy. So we're gonna give away multiple ones because it's a celebration.

[Rich]

This is the silliest thing we do every year, but I love it.

[Covino]

87799 on Fox, your chance to take home a Swiggy. Put some tequilas inside. Your chance to win next.

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[Covino]

Hey, let me just say this.

[Rich]

I know what you're gonna say on.

[Covino]

This Cinco de Mayo. If you've never seen this movie, it's a must watch.

[Rich]

Oh, I were gonna say one of our comedian friends. 10 Alexandro does a bit about how he finally saw the words to this at karaoke.

[Covino]

He's like, you mean to tell me it's not bada bada la bamba? He's been singing it wrong his whole life. Shout out to Ted Alexandro. Shout out to you. Fox Sports Radio nation. Happy Cinco de Mayo. We're giving away prizes. But first, live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Be sure to check out Fox Sports Radio's YouTube channel. Watch our over promised bonus show. We talked about the NBA playoffs. Got you fired up for it. Episode 90.

[Rich]

No doubt.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Gonna get to the Greedo contest. We have people lined up if you want in real quick. 87799 on Fox we talk about the biggest fumbles in life. Yeah, and we talked about the Facebooks and the blockbusters and the Yankees.

[Covino]

Skype went out of business. Zoom took over.

[Rich]

There was one that real quick, 20 seconds. We have a buddy, Danny G. This is a true story. Our buddy Sean in New York was pulled into some seminar in the 2000s. He's the type of guy that listens to street people, like, handing out flyers.

[Covino]

Was it to sell cutco knives?

[Rich]

No, no. Some guy's like, come in here. Let me tell you all about bitcoin. And our buddy Sean, I s you not was told, like, hey, to get started, we'll give you like 50 bitcoin for like 10 bucks. And he was like, just not interested. And he looks back, he remembers clearly.

[Covino]

Just saying, there's so many stories about it.

[Rich]

Currency. I can't see.

[Danny G]

He's going to be telling that story to his GR grandchildren.

[Covino]

Stock opportunities.

[Rich]

Yeah. They were like, dude, we'll give you 50 to start for 10 bucks and you can help mine it. He's like, what does mining mean? Like, so we have a buddy that would have been like one of those crypto billionaires.

[Covino]

True story.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Everybody has their own. So let's get to these callers. This is your chance to go home a champion on the Cinco de Mayo. All you have to do is do your best grito. That's it. Now what's a greto? It's a celebration cry of sorts.

[Danny G]

It's a party show.

[Covino]

It's a party shout. You hear it at all the fiestas. And Sam, you won last year with your legendary grito.

[Iowa Sam]

That just sounds like a crazy person.

[Covino]

Honestly, I lost my voice from screaming at the disappointing boxing matches this weekend that I can't even do one. Rich, I know you can represent. It was pretty good. You're the fourth amigo, Nick. Yeah. All you have to do is that and you can take home a swiggy for your ice cold cerveza tonight.

[Rich]

All right.

[Covino]

That's our stainless steel water bottle. Let's hear your best one. Let's do it quick. Let's get the fiesta going.

[Rich]

It's our way of saying, here's a freebie. There you go, San Diego. Alex, you're on. What's up, Alex?

[Danny G]

Hey, Alex. Alex had excuses, I think.

[Rich]

What's up, Alex?

[Danny G]

He said he had a sore throat. I'm like, why'd you call then? Let's go to New York.

[Rich]

New York. And Greg, what's up?

[Covino]

Hey, Greg.

[Caller]

What's up, guys?

[Covino]

Let's hear your best crito. You know what?

[Rich]

He went, yeah, that's not that bad.

[Covino]

He threw the. He threw one of those in there, too.

[Danny G]

You gonna give him a swiggy? Yeah, Greg Hang on the line.

[Rich]

This is our way of just being generous today, Danny.

[Covino]

Tight. Yeah. It's a celebration we're giving back to you guys. Thank you, Greg.

[Rich]

Next one, Tony in Kansas City.

[Danny G]

Yep.

[Covino]

What's up, Tony?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys?

[Rich]

Kansas City, best known for their burnt ends, but today for their gritos. What's up, bud?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up? Yeah.

[Rich]

Ready to go? You got it.

[Covino]

Let's hear it.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Covino]

It'S not bad.

[Danny G]

Ended well.

[Covino]

You know what? Yeah. Can you give it a little more heart? And you get a swiggy? Just a little. It was good.

[Danny G]

Lean into it.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I want to hear a little commitment.

[Caller]

All right.

[Covino]

I'm just. I'm just picturing this guy, you know, in his car or whatever in his driveway doing that. Hell, yeah.

[Rich]

What I'm picturing is when these presents show up, guys telling their wives how they want it. I'm sorry. How did you win this?

[Covino]

Yeah. Kansas City could win, too. You ever hear, like, a grito? It's like. It's like a cry, like in a love song, and it's almost like a yelp. It's like a heartbreak sort of. I'll take one of those, too, for a prize.

[Danny G]

Kansas City's a winner. Hang on, Tony.

[Rich]

Let's go to Bob in Florida. What's up, Bob?

[Covino]

Hey, Bob.

[Danny G]

Hey, Bobby.

[Rich]

All right, you got one, Bob.

[Caller]

Yeah, of the fumbles. I've got Golden State in 1980.

[Danny G]

I'm not doing fumbles right now.

[Rich]

Hey, Rob. Hey, Bob. Bob, I got a fumble. You missing out on a. A swiggy because you didn't do a greo.

[Covino]

It's okay. Can you give us your best greo?

[Caller]

No, not really.

[Covino]

What he say? That's your best.

[Rich]

All right, well, you know what?

[Covino]

Thank you.

[Rich]

The rest of you, I'm sorry. Enjoy your guacamole, enjoy your margaritas, and enjoy some great NBA playoffs tonight. Can't wait. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Until then, Arriva d'archi, baby.

[Covino]

See you in the promised land. Happy Cinco de Mayo.

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