Hour 2 - Jimmy Butler is the right fit

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd: Hour 2 - Jimmy Butler is the Right Fit

Release Date: March 4, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.

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1. LeBron James’ Scoring Milestone and Athlete Longevity

Colin Cowherd leads the discussion by highlighting LeBron James' pursuit of an unprecedented 50,000 career points, emphasizing his sustained excellence well into his 40s.

Colin Cowherd [07:12]: "LeBron is the right fit. His numbers since turning 40 are better across the board—more rebounds, more assists, a better shooter."

Cowherd argues that LeBron's dedication to his physical health—spending millions annually on his body—has allowed him to defy typical aging curves seen in other athletes like Carmelo Anthony and James Harden.

Cowherd [05:00]: "Your body's going to treat you like you treat your body. LeBron is just an all-in guy."

2. Athlete Conditioning and Performance Comparisons

The panel compares LeBron's longevity and performance to other legendary athletes, noting that consistent conditioning can lead to extended peaks in athletic performance.

Cowherd [06:12]: "Gary Player is 88 and works out 90 minutes a day. LeBron shows what happens when you go all in."

Jason McIntyre adds that not all athletes, despite their genetic advantages, can maintain such high levels of performance without similar dedication.

3. The Face of the NBA: LeBron vs. Other Icons

The conversation transitions to discussing who should be considered the face of the NBA. Cowherd firmly places LeBron James above current superstars like Steph Curry and Jayson Tatum.

Cowherd [16:36]: "LeBron wins. There's only been three faces of the league in my life—Magic, Michael Jordan, and LeBron."

Chris Broussard challenges Cowherd's list, suggesting that legends like Shaq and Kobe should also be recognized as iconic faces of the league.

Chris Broussard [18:16]: "After Michael, before LeBron, the Shaq-Kobe duo was the face of the league."

4. Jayson Tatum’s Role and Perception in the NBA

Jayson Tatum is scrutinized for not yet embodying the intangible qualities that make a player the face of the league. Despite his talent, Cowherd and Broussard argue that Tatum lacks the aura and clutch performance necessary to reach that status.

Broussard [19:34]: "Tatum feels a little too pre-produced compared to Anthony Edwards, who radiates authenticity."

Cowherd counters by emphasizing that being the face of the league requires more than just statistical excellence—it demands a certain intangible presence.

5. Shadour Sanders: Character and Potential

Shadour Sanders, a promising quarterback prospect, is discussed with a focus on his character and potential impact in the NFL. While some view Sanders as confident or even arrogant, Cowherd and Broussard argue that his demeanor is a sign of confidence rather than a red flag.

Broussard [23:19]: "From everything I've seen, Sanders has handled fame and wealth almost perfectly."

Cowherd adds that Sanders’ leadership qualities and intangibles make him an attractive draft pick despite concerns about his on-field performance.

Cowherd [21:11]: "Shadour is talented and would probably rather drop to a good team. The culture has changed—players come in with more leverage."

6. NFL Draft and Quarterback Negotiations

The discussion shifts to the NFL Draft, particularly focusing on the San Francisco 49ers and their quarterback, Brock Purdy. Cowherd speculates on the complexities of negotiating long-term contracts amid other impactful deals in the league.

Cowherd [29:25]: "With the Rams being tougher negotiators, Purdy's deal might not be smooth, but the Niners have a strong draft position to navigate this."

Jason McIntyre suggests that the Niners' draft success will be crucial in securing a lucrative and fair contract for Purdy.

7. NFL Free Agency: Dallas Cowboys’ Defensive Tackle Deal

Positive news surfaces regarding the Dallas Cowboys securing a four-year, $80 million deal with defensive tackle Osua Digizua. Cowherd highlights the importance of dominant interior defenders in strengthening a team's defense.

Cowherd [33:30]: "Defensive tackles like Digizua are crucial. Edge rushers are more available, but you don’t give up great defensive tackles."

This acquisition is seen as a strategic move to bolster the Cowboys' defense, positioning them strongly for the upcoming season.

8. NBA Performance: SGA’s 51-Point Game

Stephen A. Garcia (SGA) is spotlighted for his explosive 51-point game, sparking debate about his potential MVP candidacy. While Cowherd praises his performance, McIntyre questions whether his defensive capabilities align with his offensive prowess.

SGA [35:20]: "SGA had a nice block last night. He has the most 20-point games this season."

Cowherd acknowledges SGA's scoring achievements but underscores the importance of team success in MVP discussions.

Cowherd [35:34]: "They're a really good basketball team. They draft and develop well."

9. Team Dynamics: Oklahoma City vs. Los Angeles Lakers

The panel compares the Oklahoma City Thunder (OKC) and Los Angeles Lakers, debating OKC’s potential to reach the finals against a star-studded Lakers team.

Cowherd [36:31]: "OKC is young and their players might shrink in road playoff games, especially against seasoned teams like the Lakers."

Broussard and McIntyre express skepticism about OKC's ability to compete at the highest level without significant roster changes, while Cowherd remains cautiously optimistic.

10. Concluding Remarks and Future Prospects

As the episode wraps up, Cowherd reiterates his confidence in LeBron James' historic achievements and previews upcoming shows.

Cowherd [29:03]: "LeBron is doing something once in a generation—reaching 50,000 points."

He encourages listeners to tune into future live editions and other related shows, emphasizing the ongoing analysis and discussion of top sports stories.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Colin Cowherd [05:00]: "Your body's going to treat you like you treat your body. LeBron is just an all-in guy."
• Chris Broussard [18:16]: "After Michael, before LeBron, the Shaq-Kobe duo was the face of the league."
• Broussard [23:19]: "From everything I've seen, Sanders has handled fame and wealth almost perfectly."
• Colin Cowherd [16:36]: "LeBron wins. There's only been three faces of the league in my life—Magic, Michael Jordan, and LeBron."
• Broussard [19:34]: "Tatum feels a little too pre-produced compared to Anthony Edwards, who radiates authenticity."
• Cowherd [35:34]: "They're a really good basketball team. They draft and develop well."
• Cowherd [36:31]: "OKC is young and their players might shrink in road playoff games, especially against seasoned teams like the Lakers."

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Key Insights and Conclusions

• LeBron James’ Legacy: LeBron’s pursuit of 50,000 points is not just a statistical milestone but a testament to his unparalleled dedication to maintaining peak physical condition, setting him apart from his peers.

• Face of the NBA: The debate over the current face of the NBA highlights the struggle to balance statistical success with intangible qualities like leadership and marketability. While LeBron is lauded for embodying the league's face, emerging talents like Tatum face challenges in achieving similar recognition.

• NFL Dynamics: The NFL Draft and free agency discussions underscore the strategic maneuvers teams must undertake to secure top talent, with specific attention to quarterback negotiations and the importance of defensive strength.

• Team Potential: The comparison between OKC and the Lakers illustrates the complexities of team dynamics and the impact of star players on a team’s success, emphasizing that depth and experience are crucial for playoff triumphs.

• Player Development: SGA’s exceptional performance raises questions about evaluating player potential beyond statistics, stressing the need for a holistic approach in recognizing MVP candidates.

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Final Thoughts

The Herd with Colin Cowherd delivers a comprehensive analysis of current sports narratives, weaving together insights on athlete performance, team strategies, and broader league dynamics. By addressing both statistical achievements and the intangible aspects of sports greatness, the podcast provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of what drives success in professional sports.

Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Learn [e-mail] withamx thanks for listening to the Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. It is a Tuesday. Welcome in. This time yesterday, the great Jimmy Johnson was retiring from Fox after a remarkable football pro in college and broadcasting career. This is the herd I just, we taught, we started our show talking about. LeBron James is one point shy of scoring 50,000 career points. Nobody's obviously ever done that. There is, it's, it's, I, I said this two weeks ago. I don't even know what I'm watching. And our staff has this. If you take LeBron's 4M pieces and compare with LeBron since he turned 40, he's actually a better basketball player now. More rebounds, more assists, better shooter, three point and field goal. He averages two points less a game. That's insane. And I think today he's defending as well as he did five or six years ago. So, you know, people will say, what is he on? Well, the NBA tests for hgh. They just banned a Milwaukee Buck player for some banned substance. So, you know, I think your body will treat you how you treat it. And LeBron spends a couple million dollars a year in his body. And LeBron is what happens when you're an all time talent and you go all in. I've said this, Carmelo Anthony, go look it up. Started to decline. At 30 years old, he was never in great shape. I mean, Hookah Luca will not play like this. At 40 years old, he's not that committed. And so, I mean, John Daly was a hoot. But at 58 years old, Gary Player is 88 or 89 years old. And Gary players in significantly better shape because Gary Player still works out. I met Gary Player twice. It's incredible. 89 years old, he works out 90 minutes a day. I talked to about his diet. It's incredible. It's the healthiest eater I've ever seen. Your body's going to treat you like you treat your body. And LeBron is just an all in guy. So, I mean, you look at James Harden, he's fallen off a cliff. If you look at Big Ben, he aged quickly. So all these guys, like I always say when people complain about the Dodgers doing the deferred payments, everybody that owns a major league baseball team is a billionaire. Everybody could do that. The Dodgers have decided they're billionaires. Dodgers do not have the richest owners. They don't, they don't drive the most revenue. Yankees still make more revenue than they do on an annual basis. So Yankees make more revenue. They do not. Now, now Mark Walters is one of the richer owners, top six or seven. Not the richest owner. But they are totally committed to winning championships with the Dodgers. The Pittsburgh Pirates owner, he's a billionaire too. He's cheap. And so anybody could do it. All these, I mean, most of these athletes, most, not all, they could spend money. But you know, James Harden, you know, his jersey hangs, I'm not joking, in the rafter of a strip club. I mean, he was legendary for being an all night guy. That's fine with me. I'm not judging it. But that's why James Harden's fallen off a cliff. That's why Carmelo started declining at 30. He was never in great shape. Cam Newton had some injuries, but Big Ben, you know, you look at Alex Ovechkin in hockey right now, top 10 in goals, Tom Brady in his 40s, LeBron James. This is what happens when you totally commit. Lou Williams was talking about this on the FanDuel TV about this.

[Jason McIntyre]

60% of these guys can put a.

[Colin Cowherd]

Million dollars in their bodies if they want to.

[Jason McIntyre]

They still ain't gonna get this result.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, it's just a, just a credit.

[Jason McIntyre]

To his genetics and how he's been.

[Colin Cowherd]

Able to maintain himself over the years. So to go through 21 years of nothing major to sit you out is a blessing in itself. Now, LeBron did have, last couple of years, he had about a year and a half where he was just dealing with ankle stuff and hip stuff and, but, but the numbers he's putting up. And I will say this, I've said this about Steph Curry, and I'll say it with LeBron. These guys were on a treadmill to nowhere. And then you give one Luka and one Jimmy Butler and it's as if they're showing off for their new friend. Like you get a new friend in the neighborhood, hey, come on over here. My bicycle. Let's, let's do some jumps. Like they're showing off for their friends. And it's brought a joy and an energy to LeBron. And what I'm watching is absolutely once in a generation remarkable. Steph Curry's averaging seven points more a game with Jimmy Butler. He's taking one more shot. Efficiency, energy, vibe, juice, analytics can't measure all that stuff. Nick Wright, co host, First Things first is joining us now live from New York. You know, it is. I, I think LeBron has always known and this was my rant to start the show. Nobody has had his intuition. He moved off D. Wade at the right time. He moved out of Cleveland twice at the right time. He moved off all the Lonzo ball guys at the right Time. And I think deep down, I really believe this, Nick, that he knew that he and AD work together. But Jokic or Luca, the great outlet Passers, would give LeBron in his twilight years easier baskets, and they wouldn't be as dependent on him initiating it. And Denver wasn't moving off Luka or Denver wasn't moving off Jokic. He tried to get Steph a couple of years ago, and Steph said, no, Thanks. I think LeBron, the minute Cuban sold his primary share of the Mavericks, LeBron saw an opening and through a lot. I know you think it's crazy. LeBron has always been a step ahead of teams, owners, executives, and teammates, and he's been right seven straight times.

[Chris Broussard]

Was one of those steps drugging Nico Harrison? I mean, I. I mean, because that's the piece of that that you're not including. So I don't quite get it, by the way. I'm hearing myself in my ear. So I don't know if they can fix it, but I'll power through in the meantime. Yeah, but it doesn't take a basketball genius, which LeBron is to be like, yeah, my life probably gets easier on offense if we add Luka Doncic. Yeah. I do think that he probably wanted Luca. I don't think he thought that Nico Harrison would make that possible. But you were. You were talking about LeBron scoring 50,000 points.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

Can we stay there for a minute?

[Colin Cowherd]

Sure.

[Chris Broussard]

So I know that compiling is not really considered that impressive.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Chris Broussard]

And I understand that. But what LeBron's doing isn't compiling. What LeBron's doing is continued sustained excellence.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Chris Broussard]

And that's what I think matters. So there have only been five guys in NBA history to reach 36,000. 36,000. He's at 50 career points. And I do think it's noteworthy to discuss what they looked like when they reached those final milestones. So Kareem scored 44,000. It's fixed. Thank you, guys. 44,000 and change. When he got his 44,000th point, Colin, it was the worst year of his career, averaging 10 points per game.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

Karl Malone got to 41,000 when he scored his 41st thousandth point. He was averaging 13 points a game for the Lakers, the worst year of his career. Kobe and Michael both got to 38,000. When Michael did it, he was averaging 20 a game on 19% from 3 and 41% from the field for the Wizards. And when Kobe did it, he was averaging 17 a game on 35% from the field. LeBron James tonight is going to get to 50,000 in a season. He might be top five on MVP balloting and should be first team all NBA. So it's not so much about, you know, he just was healthy and was able to put in 15 a night for 25 years. It's that in year 22, he is still on any given night, maybe the best player in the league. And over the course of the season, clearly one of the five best players in the league. Brady is the only athlete that we have any comp for it to. And Brady didn't have to play both sides of the ball. It's really a remarkable thing we're seeing right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, I was thinking about this. J. Mac was on this like the first couple days. He said Lakers are a championship team. And, and I think there's only two teams in the league right now that are complete. Boston and Cleveland. And one won't get to the Finals. I think Boston plays interior defense, wing defense. They have wing scoring. They can score down low. Boston's a totally complete team. If Derek White's your fourth or fifth best team player, you're a great team. I think Cleveland is very, very close again. They can defend, they've got size, they've got wing defenders, they've got a great guard. Those are complete teams. I don't think anybody in the west is complete. Teams are either too young, they don't have the depth. I don't think Denver has the depth. They're bad defensively. I don't trust Houston can't shoot. Golden State could use another shooter. So when I look at the Lakers, I think, you know, I wish they had a rim defender. And my take is until you get to the finals, everybody's got a hole in the west. And, and I get LeBron and Luka. So my two stars are better than you two. And I do think right now I would take the Lakers to win the West.

[Chris Broussard]

Well, they are certainly on the very short list. I knowing myself, I'll probably end up picking them. It's going to be hard for me to pick all of us. You have my favorite player of all time and my second favorite player in the league playing together. And they're both playing great basketball, so I'll probably end up picking them. I do think you're short changing OKC a bit. The OKC question is really, to me, I have two OKC questions. One is, will the non SGA players play better this postseason than they did last postseason? That's right, because last postseason Shai played well. But the other Guys didn't, you know, kind of play up to their billing. And the other OKC question is, is Shea going to suffer from something James Harden has suffered for in the past, Joel Embiid has suffered from in the past, which is a playoff whistle. Anyone who gets such a huge benefit from getting to the foul line, you worry about them a bit in the playoffs, but OKC is awesome.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Now let me, let me say this about okc and I've seen this before. SGA will not get the regular season whistle, which Karl Malone and James Harden and SJ live on. He won't. The other thing and you know this. Young players and rotational players in the playoffs are often great at home, but in big spots in road games, they can disappear. I think Oklahoma City is still, Chet Holmgren is still a year away from being able to go to Los Angeles in a crucial game and beat LeBron and Luka.

[Chris Broussard]

So that, listen, that might be true, but they also might not have to win any road games like they. And so I, I am, I, I'm not trying to build them up to more than they are, but I do think their record and shape playing at the level they deserve respect. I also, oddly, when I was in Los Angeles over, when was it? Over Thanksgiving. I went to Lakers okc. I sat right next to the guy that holds up all the Lakers stuff. Doesn't matter. Nobody cares about that. Point is I had good seats. Lakers okc, unlike Colin Coward, they're not given to me. I paid for them out of my own pocket. Man of the people. And OKC just throws waves and waves of defenders at you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

So I will give them respect. What the Lakers have going for them that no other team in the league has is this. They have two offensive supercomputers at the wing slash point guard position. And almost every contender has one guy you can throw on someone like that. The Thunder have Lou Dort. The Nuggets have Aaron Gordon. Like you have someone, you have a guy to throw on those to throw on LeBron or throw on Luka. Only Boston has two guys who you can has multiple guys to throw at these to throw at LeBron and Luka. Like when you are playing Denver in a series, if Aaron Gordon is guarding LeBron then who the hell is guarding Luka? Like that is the real question. So yeah, I thought people totally overrated how bad of a fit it was going to be. It's two of the smartest players ever. I also think those of us hand up who the last few years was like Darvin Ham is doing a poor job. And then a lot of people in the media was like, Ah, LeBron knifing Darvin Ham for his podcast, buddy. So if JJ Redick, who we all know was only hired because LeBron made him do it, LeBron's podcast, buddy. If JJ Redick wins coach of the year, does LeBron get to at least take a picture with the trophy? Like, how does the LeBron runs the Lakers stuff work? He made them trade for Russell Westbrook, but he also made them trade for Anthony Davis. What? Trading for Anthony Davis got you a championship and Luka Doncic for the next decade. So I don't know, like, I just. Just don't know where LeBron's influence starts or ends. I do know the Lakers right now. I agree with you. Look like a team that can win the championship.

[Colin Cowherd]

I've been saying two things about the face of the league. I only believe. I think there's been three in my life. Magic. I don't count Bird. Bird didn't want it. French Lick, feisty. He didn't have the magnetism of Magic Johnson. Magic and Bird may have been together. It's like Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Caitlin's the face of the league. Magic was the face of the league. They just happened to be rivals then. I think it's Michael Jordan, the best looking, the best player, the most relentless. And then I think it's LeBron James. Steph Curry's close, but in his prime. LeBron's in his. Sorry. LeBron wins. So my take is there's only been three. Kareem wasn't. Wilt wasn't. Duncan wasn't. They weren't. And the other thing is, it's not just about going to Duke or playing for a big brand. There is certain there are two things that matter. An aura. Jayson Tatum doesn't have it. And we can't ever question that. You shrink in big spots in the gold medal game. Jayson Tatum had two points game before he was a coach's decision. Do not play when he played with the best players in the world. Secondly, Jaylen Brown wins MVP of a conference finals and the finals. They traded Marcus Smart because he was taking the ball out of his hands. I love Jayson Tatum. I think the league thought Zion could be.

[Chris Broussard]

Nobody knows that about you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay? I thought Zion had a chance, but he just wasn't because. And I don't really blame him because they come into the league at 19 years old. He wasn't mature enough. Jaw had a chance. He just wasn't Ready for it, that the league mostly doesn't need it, hasn't had it, and Tatum's not it.

[Chris Broussard]

All right, so a lot. You threw a lot there. One is, can I sell you on one other face of the league in that time frame? All right. And that's the Shaq Kobe duo.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay.

[Chris Broussard]

I think that, but after Michael, before LeBron, I thought the Shaq Kobe collective with the Lakers was the face of the league that exists. But you're, it's a very, very short list. And I, we actually, I actually talked Tatum. Cause you know who is a huge Jayson Tatum fan is my son Damanze, who co hosts the podcast. I do. And we were talking about that actually this morning and about why Jayson Tatum online in particular seems to get so much criticism from America's honesty broker. Gets so much criticism. And I think there is a feeling, and it might be unfair. It is just a feeling of a little inauthenticity that people don't wrap their arms around. It's the exact opposite feeling people get when they watch or listen to Anthony Edwards. So for good or for bad, people watch Anthony Edwards and say, you know who he's being, Anthony Edwards, you know what he's saying, whatever's on his mind, you know what he's doing, whatever he wants.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

Now there are some maybe issues with that. But you, it's why people are drawn to him. Tatum, I think for a lot of people feels a little too pre produced. And then there is also the factor of. And this is. And people, Celtics fans might not want to hear it. And he is the best player on the defending champion and a team that might win again. But Will is j. To be the face of the league, you have to be in eligible to be the best player in the league.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Chris Broussard]

And Jayson Tatum is not.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

And, and people can say I'm putting a ceiling on him. Jason Tatum will never be the best player in the NBA. There is no shame to that. Kevin Durant, who has reached heights. Tatum has not, I think will not never was the single best player in the NBA.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

There's only like 16 guys across history who have ever been the hands down best player at any given moment in the NBA. So I don't, I, I. Tatum's right. I check off all the boxes except for the one that matters, which is what we feel like, what we know. And so again, the Celtics probably should win another championship. And if they, if he's a multiple time champion, probably get a Finals MVP at some point, he's going to be first. All of the accolades, all of it. But that doesn't mean that you're going to be on a list alongside of LeBron, Kobe, Shaq, Michael, Magic. Again, it's a very, very short list. So I agree with you on that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, so finally, Shadour Sanders. So, you know, I said, most of the time in my life, the corporation or the organization has the leverage over the employee. But when you're the Giants or Cleveland or Tennessee, in Shadour Sanders interviews, he grew up rich. He's even richer now with Nil. You're awful. He's talented, and he would probably rather drop to a good team. I don't want to hear in the combine that he came off as, you know, a little standoffish. Well, maybe because he'd rather you pass on him and go to a better team. And my take is the world changes, the culture changes. I mean, Mike Krzyzewski is like, I'm not doing one and done. And then he realized he was getting beat by guys that went to Carolina that were one and dones. And Mike Krzyevsky said, okay, I'm doing one and dones. The culture has changed. Players come in now as millionaires. Owners in the NFL are billionaires. They're more impulsive. They fire coaching staffs. I don't want to hear that Shador Sanders didn't bow to you. These kids come in with sometimes more leverage than the team.

[Chris Broussard]

So I. So I have maybe the most odd Shador Sanders opinion of anyone, which is I have zero off the field concerns and a ton of on the field concerns. So, like, all of the Shador Sanders conversation seems to be about Shadore Sanders. Like, the negative conversation is about Shador Sanders the guy. And I, from everything I have seen, from everything I've heard from people who actually know him, from watching him in the spotlight, I. I'm like, I think this kid has handled obscene fame, a ton of wealth, and a huge spotlight about almost perfectly. Not perfectly. There are last year, when kids were transferring out, a few tweets. I think he would want back.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

But given, you know, given where he's at, the scrutiny, his dad, his brothers, all of it. I think Shador Sanders, the leader, the intangibles, all that stuff is super high marks. I just worry about Shador Sanders, the quarterback, and whether or not he, like what I saw from him at Colorado, which coach Mangini mentioned this, I thought it was a good point. It felt like a lot of the potential red flags you saw occasionally from Caleb in College, you saw a lot of those same ones with Shador without nearly as many of the oh my God, what did I just see? Type of wow throws. And so I would not be worried about drafting Shador at all because I think he's arrogant or character or any of this nonsense, which really just means confident in this case, rich, young black kid. Like that part I think is ridiculous. I do have legitimate concerns about whether or not if the quarterbacks in last year's class were in this year's class.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

Would Shador be the sixth quarterback off the board?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Chris Broussard]

Would the, Would Caleb Jaden, Drake, Cam Ward this year and JJ McCarthy all go ahead of him? Maybe that's. That to me is far more legitimate than any of this arrogant stuff.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nick Wright. All right, that was good stuff, my friend.

[Chris Broussard]

How are you celebrating tonight, Colin? The 50,000 points? I mean, you'll never see it again. No one will see it again. You know, it's rarer than Haley's Comet, literally.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know what? Let that percolate, let that bake. I'll try to. I'll try to do something special. Maybe I'll have a Go to one.

[Chris Broussard]

Listen, I know you like going out these days. Go to one of your fancy members only LA restaurants, order yourself, you know what I mean, one of your, you know, double cocktails and just be like, man, billion years of world history. I was alive covering sports at the same time as LeBron James. What are the odds? I mean, it's unbelievable.

[Colin Cowherd]

Just talk, just enjoy me into it, my friend. Good seeing you.

[Chris Broussard]

There you go.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Martinez]

Hey, it's a Martinez. The news can feel like a lot on any given day, but you can't just ignore la noticias when important world changing events are happening. That is where the Up first podcast comes in. Every single morning in under 15 minutes we take the news and boil it down to three essential stories so you can keep up without feeling stressed out. Listen up first from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chris Broussard]

No, no, no, no.

[Colin Cowherd]

Turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.

[Jason McIntyre]

I have a dentist appointment this month actually, so I gotta brush up on floss. How many times a day do you floss by the way?

[Colin Cowherd]

I brush my teeth three to four times a day. Wow, isn't everybody? What do you do?

[Jason McIntyre]

I just do two morning and night. Do I need to do l?

[Colin Cowherd]

You go like 12 hours and just have nothing but decay and plaque and 12 hours, don't you know, I guess.

[Jason McIntyre]

I didn't need to work in a lunch one. All right, let's get started. Colin, with the Ners and Brock Pie, your favorite quarterback in the league. They're working towards a long term extension. Extension. However, really interesting point brought about by Steve Young on the Rich Eisen Show. He thinks a couple other deals could impact Purdy negotiations.

[Colin Cowherd]

What happened with Nick Bosa and then with Brandon Aiyuk changed the nature this year of how they are going to go about it. I don't think they were really appreciative of how that went down and how they got pushed. And I think that they're, you know, they're going to. You almost feel like a lot more declarative statements coming out. Quarterbacks are so hard to find that Brock has done enough for sure to go out and get, you know, and get paid and get, and get it done. Now back to my original point. There's. I don't know that it's going to be smooth. How could it be smooth? Yeah, the Niners generally, I'll say this, the Rams are tougher negotiators than the Niners. The Niners have caved on a few guys. The, the Rams don't. I mean the Rams were willing to move off Stafford if they got a first round pick. With Stafford, Brock Purdy's gonna get what he want. I, I believe I would rather as an athlete negotiate with the Niners than I would with McVeigh and the Rams and less need and Stan Cronky. So I mean, the Rams moved off a guard today.

[Jason McIntyre]

This isn't going to be some kind of Josh Allen five, six year deal, some Patrick Mahomes long term deal.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Jason McIntyre]

It's gonna be more three, four years, maybe two years guaranteed, something like that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, that's what I, I would. Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

It just doesn't make sense to lock down. And I like, you know, I'm like Mr. Brock Purdy. I'm a huge fan. I think he's been excellent. But the Brandon IU feels certainly there's buyers.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, here, here's the advantage they have. They have drafted pretty well. They've had misses, but they've drafted pretty well. And I think they have 12 picks. So you know, again, if you hit on 50 to 60% of your picks, the Niners are going to fill some holes and some of that like at corner, if they got Will Johnson from Michigan first round, they could move off, maybe ward the corner. So they have a couple of situations where if they hit on Draft me. They just moved off Debo's money. Ricky Pearsall, if they could get a corner, then you move off, you move off some corner money, then the Brock Purdy contract, you get to 50 million. And it's not that punitive. So again, it all comes back that the Eagles and the Rams have hit on draft picks. That allows you to have a star quarterback and pay him and a few others. So if the Niners have a really good late April weekend, they're going to be much more comforted in knowing, you know, they hit on six new players. They have, they have to upgrade the O line and I. And I think they have to attack corner.

[Jason McIntyre]

So I think they had two super bowl trips in like a four year window, something like that. Do you think the windows still. Do they go into next season in your super bowl bubble?

[Colin Cowherd]

I want to watch the San Francisco 49ers draft, I really do. Because obviously they've got the coach. Christian McCaffrey comes back.

[Jason McIntyre]

Wow.

[Colin Cowherd]

And they don't.

[Jason McIntyre]

Those tires and Trev, 47 years old.

[Colin Cowherd]

Kittle was a Pro Bowler. Juwan Jennings, Piersall McCaffrey, Trent Williams comes back, Kyle Shanahan, they'll be fine. I think they have to go O line and heavy defense in the draft. And if they have a good weekend and get three to four starters, then I feel like they're still in the bubble.

[Jason McIntyre]

I would consider left tackle with their first pick because again, if anything happens to Trent Williams, we know historically that offensive line falls apart.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, what you do is you draft the left tackle and for a year he plays right tackle and then eventually you move him over when Trent leaves. Yeah, I think that should be their first pick, by the way. I think, I think offensive tackle for the Niners or corner should be their first.

[Jason McIntyre]

Check your investment if you're paying Brock Purdy, protect. All right, next up, good news for the Dallas Cowboys finally. They have reportedly agreed to a four year, $80 million deal with defensive tackle. And I hope I don't butcher this Osua O Digizua. I think I got that right, Nate. 58 million guaranteed, 20 million dollar signing bonus. He played at UCLA. He had a very good year. It's actually two good two year stretch for Dallas. I wonder if Micah Parsons is like, great, great, my turn now. Can I get paid? But finally, positive news for the Cowboys who have had an avalanche.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, we, we spend a lot of time talking about edge rushers, but if you talk to a lot of NFL people, they'll tell you there is a pushback to Dominant interior defenders. Chris Jones out of off of Aaron Donald, Jalen Carter. Because edge rushers tend to be a bit more available. You know, the great defensive tackle, you don't give them up. You just do not give them up. Edge rushers, I mean Max Crosby, a later draft you can find edge rushers. There are not a lot of guys that are 6, 2, 3, 30 and move well. And when you get one like Dallas, you do not let him go.

[Jason McIntyre]

Remember Miami had Wilkins and they were like, oh, we'll move off. And they could not stop the run this season. Defense was terrible. Defensive tackles definitely matter. Jets have a great one. Quinn Williams, come on, he's a top.

[Colin Cowherd]

Four or five in the league.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. Final story is in the NBA free throw merchant. SGA went off last night. Colin, 51 points and seven assists. And Zach, the producer who here who loves SGA noted.

[Colin Cowherd]

Hey, he.

[Jason McIntyre]

It's not like he lived at the free throw line last night. Jason. Only 10 of his 51 were on free throws. But listen, let's be real. SGA 28 at halftime last night, 45 heading into the.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is he the second best player in the league? Jokic?

[Jason McIntyre]

No, he's not.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, Jokic is the best player. That's inarguable.

[Jason McIntyre]

Luca is the second best best.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, no, no Luca.

[Jason McIntyre]

Giannis, stop it.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think you can go. Giannis. You can't be as bad defensively as Luca and be the second best player.

[Jason McIntyre]

He took the maps to the finals last year.

[Chris Broussard]

Yep.

[Colin Cowherd]

The.

[Jason McIntyre]

The ACA has he got to the conference finals.

[Colin Cowherd]

He had Kyrie Irving in a stacked center rotation.

[Jason McIntyre]

Nobody had them going to files. That was all Luca. They. They took down okc. I need to see SCA do it.

[Colin Cowherd]

You can't be the worst defensive player.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's not the worst possible.

[Colin Cowherd]

Not very good.

[Jason McIntyre]

Listen, SGA had a nice block last night. He has the most 20 point games in the NBA this season. And this is like a Joel Embiid all over again. Everybody wants to give him the mvp.

[Colin Cowherd]

Fine.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't care. Give him the mvp. Are they going to get to the finals? That's what matters.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, they're a really good basketball team and. And by the way, not only do they draft and develop well, they. They took, you know, a valuable player a big from the New York Knicks and the Knicks haven't been as good defensively.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's a great point. But Colin, let me just quickly ask you this. Final five minutes, close game. OKC Lakers, who are your five on the floor for? Okc. That's A big question. They've got a lot of good players.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sga.

[Jason McIntyre]

Sga.

[Colin Cowherd]

Williams, J.

[Jason McIntyre]

Are you doing Hartenstein, the guy you got?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Are you doing Caruso?

[Jason McIntyre]

So are you doing Lou Dort? They just have a lot of good guys, whereas the Lakers have three really awesome ones. Then ruy. I. I just. I'm. I'm not buying this OKC team over the.

[Colin Cowherd]

Listen, here's what's going to happen if they don't end up in the finals. If it. First of all, the NBA. It would be a great final to get the young emerging dynasty potentially okc. I mean, they got so much. Well, they have so many drafts. Oh, I think they have a chance.

[Jason McIntyre]

To be a billion draft picks.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. And they already have two stars. Three, actually. Williams, Chad Holmgren. SGA is the best of it. So they could become what Denver didn't. They could go on a run. We thought Denver was going to win multiple. So what happens if OKC faces the Lakers in the final and the Lakers win? I can write the story. League is rigged. They wanted LeBron in. But I will say caution yourself on this. Oklahoma City is young. Young players shrink in road playoff games. That's number one outside of the COVID bubble year in Orlando. Younger players shrink in the playoffs, especially away from home. Secondly, SGA like James Harden and Karl Malone lives on the whistle. You do not get it in the conference finals and finals. You will not get the whistle. James Harden, I mean, Karl Malone covered multiple series. He still went to the line, but you never quite got the regular season whistle. So if OKC loses, you can write the two headlines now.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, I'll go a step further. Okay. OKC loses to the Lakers in the playoffs. Let's say second round or conference finals. Everybody's distraught. How are we going to get by the Lakers? Do you know what OK's move in the offseason should be? We'll package three or four of these guys. Hey, Kevin Durant, why don't you come home to okc?

[Colin Cowherd]

Right? We need you.

[Chris Broussard]

Right.

[Jason McIntyre]

We need that playoff scorer. Kevin Durant returns to okc. Heroes welcome Phoenix.

[Colin Cowherd]

Get some draft picks which they desperately need and maybe one good player and.

[Jason McIntyre]

Kevin Durant return returns to OKC and they go to the finals next year. But you know, that makes Chet and Kevin Durant on the back.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. It makes a ton of basketball sense.

[Jason McIntyre]

You like that.

[Colin Cowherd]

But that's not how Kevin Durant thinks.

[Jason McIntyre]

We'll see. Nobody knows how Kevin Durant thinks. But I. Listen, I just floated that now, based on us talking I'm very curious if that gains any traction. Like Kevin Durant's gonna have options. Like, where's he gonna.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, if you're, if you're Phoenix and you're moving off Kevin Durant, which they are, what are you looking for? Draft picks. And you got to have one decent player because of contracts. So you're basically looking for a good player.

[Jason McIntyre]

I'll take J Dub off your hands if I'm Phoenix and Dub and give me four picks.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, you're not getting four from Sam Presti.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, give me three.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. Peter Schrager stops by last hour. Yeah, I'm telling you, LeBron's going to score. He'll be the only player over 50,000 points. And go look at the splits. LeBron, his stats 40 years old and on compared to his four MVP years outside of points per game, he is better at everything. That is. That is insane. It really is. I've never seen anything like it. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich with amex.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities big to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months.

[Martinez]

Hey, it's hey Martinez. The news can feel like a lot on any given day, but you can't just ignore la Noticias when important world changing events are happening. That is where the Upverse podcast comes in. Every single morning in under 15 minutes, we take the news and boil it down to three essential stories so you can keep up without feeling stressed out. Listen up first from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nick Wright]

Julie It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Colin Cowherd]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share and believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Nick Wright]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Colin Cowherd]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers. And wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that?

[Colin Cowherd]

Nate? I'm vibing. Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Nick Wright]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get Your podcasts.

[Colin Cowherd]

Peter Schrager stops by with some NFL draft buzz. It it. I, I've said this before that you know, sports are all cyclical. Boxing used to be bigger, UFC squashed it. Baseball had a real down 15 years in my opinion. I think they're sort of re, rebooted it with, with changes to the pitch clock and speeding the game up and the defensive shift and all the star players are in the, the right markets now. You know, in the NBA about every other draft is what they say is a bad draft. There's not a lot of talent, which is remarkable because it's a global game you're choosing from. And in the NFL, I don't remember a draft that had less pizzazz. Now we have had very weak quarterback drafts. The Kenny Pickett draft that had, you know, Kenny Pickett was the only like first round quarterback and he was kind of a second to a third rounder that the Steelers reached on him. You kind of understood it. He had a good last year, he was a Pittsburgh kid, played in the same facility, blah, blah, blah. But this is the weakest draft I remember in the NFL. And part of me thinks why? I don't, I don't ever remember having a draft where like everybody I've talked to, in fact today the Bears and the Rams made a trade. Why? Tells you don't like the free agents. It's not a good free agent class. It's not a good draft class. And my, my take is about 10 years ago when the NFL had that big CTE controversy, there was a lot of negativity around the league and you, you saw multiple stories about moms not wanting their sons to play high school football. And turnout for football was, was much lower. Maybe not in the south or Texas, but in a lot of parts of the country, high school football turnout was less and lower. And my question is, is this a result of that, that we are going to start to see a little more regularly weaker drafts and, and that there's going to be a dilution of talent. Now I don't know this to be true, but I do not remember a draft where I, I thought there were like six elite players and I watch a ton of college football and I'm not, you know, the, the Arizona receiver Tmac Mason Graham, Will Johnson, Abdul Carter. I don't think these quarterbacks are a prospects. Cam Ward's dynamic Shador is capable. I don't think they're great prospects. I think last year they would have been like fifth or sixth best quarterback prospects. I just don't think it's a very good draft. I don't think there's a great tackle, offensive tackle. I don't think there's a great defensive tackle. I think there's one receiver I like. I don't think there's any. I think actually. What does it tell you? That the running back class is the best by far. That's. And that's a position that for years has been soft or weak, and now it's like they all kind of fit into this draft. So I don't know. This is J. Mac's mock draft. I agree with some of it, not the other. The thing that I roll my eyes at is everybody saying, Shador Sanders is going to drop to the end of the first round. Guys, the New York Giants have a GM and a coach that could be fired by Thanksgiving. They are going to have to make a move for quarterback if one's available. Now, if one's not available, they can go, you know, figure it out. But I think Cam Ward should do. Or Sanders. J. Mac's got him going one and two. I mean, if you're Cleveland or Tennessee or New York, if one of these guys is available, how do you not draft them? Abdul Carter. Travis Hunter has questions because he wants to play both ways and Abdul Carter has an injury. So even the two dynamic athletes in the class, there's a little bit of a question mark. You have to take Cam Ward, you have to take Shador. And that doesn't mean they're great, but I mean, I watched Tennessee, Cleveland and New York. Those are four or five win teams if they don't roll the dice on quarterback. And here's the thing, it's not that Cam Ward and Shadour Sanders. Here's the advantage. So last year, all the top quarterbacks, almost all the top quarterbacks went to defensive coaches. It was a disaster for Caleb Williams, Right? This year, Tennessee, Cleveland and the Giants all have offensive coaches. So the quarterback class is not as good. But the environment could be a little more seamless because you get an offensive guy. Now, Washington hired the perfect OC for Jaden Daniels, but in Chicago, it was a mess. In fact, B Knicks for most of the season looked like maybe the best rookie until the end. Why? Because he got Sean Payton. So it's a year with kind of B level prospects. But Callahan, you like? I think Kevin Stefanski is great and we both think Brian Dabel's talented. So let's say Shador goes to the Giants. Listen, they got a left tackle, they got a great Weapon. They have an offensive coach.

[Jason McIntyre]

Hold on, let's back up. What do the Giants do in free agency which is coming up here in a week or two, right? You got Justin Fields, Sam Darnold, Russell.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nobody in New York's buying any of that.

[Jason McIntyre]

So then you're banking on we have to trade up because what if quarterback go 1, 2. You cannot go into next season with the DeVito or whoever. They got a quarter. You can't do that or it's a, it's a wrap. So I, I, I, I'm going to ask you this. Let's say the jets and Giants do nothing in free agency. They've got to trade up for a quarterback. So would you rather have Justin Fields on like a three year deal or would you trade up for Cam or Shador? Because that's what it looks like it's.

[Colin Cowherd]

Headed toward for the, those are, those are not choices. I, I'm, I'm, I would, you know if, let's just take. So I think Cam and shadour are going 1 and 2.

[Jason McIntyre]

I would agree with you.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think I agree with you.

[Jason McIntyre]

If you can't get a quarterback in free agency for the jets you must trade up or settle for a second round flyer. You don't know if your guy from Syracuse, McCord. Yeah, I don't know if he's going to work.

[Colin Cowherd]

No. Yeah I just when I see people dropping to the bottom of the draft.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's your boy. You can call him out. Lancer a line he watches.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well I mean that's his opinion. I agree with you that in a quarterback centric league. Cam Warden Shador with offensive coaches with offensive. By the way, I don't think the Titans or the Browns have terrible offensive lines. So these guys aren't going. They're going to offensive coaches both have weapons, decent offensive line play. They may be be prospects but that's a pretty good situation. Caleb Williams goes to the Bears. The O line stinks. The coach is defensive. They run through the staff by the end of the year. That's a disaster. I, I don't think. Yeah, I think they're going one and two. I think you nailed it.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Shrag's joining us. Hour three and a Tuesday. So hurt. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out and you can learn more by following ot's upwithhate Some people just.

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[Martinez]

Affiliates Northbrook, Illinois hey, it's amartinez. The news can feel like a lot on any given day, but you can't just ignore las noticias when important world changing events are happening. That is where the Up first podcast comes in. Every single morning in under 15 minutes, we take the news and boil it down to three essential stories so you can keep up without feeling stressed out. Listen up first from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nick Wright]

What's up everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Colin Cowherd]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Nick Wright]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Colin Cowherd]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Nick Wright]

Exactly, and you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Colin Cowherd]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Nick Wright]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.