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Colin Cowherd
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LeVar Arrington
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Colin Cowherd
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LeVar Arrington
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Joy Taylor
I thought I caught a whiff of cigar on your breath about an hour ago. You know, late night with the cigars?
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LeVar Arrington
No, it was an early night. No, I didn't even need Neurogum. Oh, wow. Didn't need it. So this is interesting and this is going to drive J. Mac crazy, but, you know, I think Kyle Shanahan is a rock star as a coach. But all great coaches have a hole. Belichick, tone deaf to offense. Right. Like all great coaches have a hole. Andy Reid would tell you he's not a personnel guy. Jimmy Johnson is. Sean Payton is. So Christian McCaffrey is. Now he's lost a little bit of his fastball and you knew when you were the Niners because he's a running back and they age quickly. And he'd been beat up in Carolina, he'd been injured that you knew it was like a three year. You know, he's like bringing an old veteran starter to your pitching rotation. You got about three years of big innings and then you kind of know what you're getting. So McCaffrey, the last three years is the game changer. It's not quarterback for the Niners with Christian, they're 23 and 8. He doesn't play. They're 7 and 8 and he's missed 44% of their games. And I would guess that will go up. So we've all seen dynasties in the last several years end. We saw the Patriots dynasty end. Why they lost a superstar quarterback. We saw Kobe and Shaq's dynasty end. Why? Ego. We saw the warriors dynasty dry up. Why age? All different stuff. The goat leaves. One gets old. A lot of egos in Los Angeles. So the Niners are the near dynasty that never happened. They have a different dilemma. Why? Why in the world could Kyle Shanahan not win it? And I believe and this happens, you know, they often say your greatest strength as a person is your greatest liability. Your confidence can all of a sudden pivot to arrogance. And that's not what Shanahan's about. But Shanahan has such a belief in his offense and his schemes. In my opinion, I think he's brilliant that it became a weakness. He settled at quarterback. Garoppolo and Brock Purdy. You are not beating Stafford. You're not beating Mahomes Allen Brady with purdy and Garoppolo McVeigh, who is also great, but schematically you can argue he's not. Shanahan upgraded Goff, who's better than garoppolo and purdy? McVeigh is like, no, I'm going to upgrade to Stafford. And he got a ring. So I do think it's interesting. There's about five rock stars in the NFL at head coach. McVay and Shanahan are both rock stars. But when you look now at Christian McCaffrey and again, to me, he was a big innings guy that came in here with about a three year Runway. It's not the same. He's missed 44% of his games. I think that goes up to 55, 60% potentially. And he's a Hall of Famer. He's unbelievable. In my opinion, only two running backs, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders are probably better. Adrian Peterson was good as well, but he couldn't catch like McCaffrey. So I just think it's very interesting. Is that as much of a wizard as Kyle Shanahan is? It is. I think it's a cautionary tale that sometimes your greatest strength can become a little bit of a liability. He had so much confidence in his schemes and offense. He's like, I can win it with Garoppolo, I can win it with Purdy. And what did both deal with? Injuries. And he settled and then by the time he took a swing on Trey Lance, it was the COVID year and all those quarterbacks missed. Here's Shanahan this week on the Christian McCaffrey injury.
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Joel Klatt
I just feel for him, it was.
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LeVar Arrington
A real frustrating year for him. He worked his ass off to get back to this point and I think.
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Joel Klatt
He was really feeling good and about to take off. But he'll get through this.
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LeVar Arrington
He's a hell of a player, hell of a person.
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Joel Klatt
And an unbelievable 49er, and he'll be back strong, stronger than ever next year to help us.
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LeVar Arrington
All right, here we go. What a weekend of college football. And it just starts now. The season's getting crazy. Let's bring in the voice of college football, Joe Clatt to the program. Let's hear it for Joe.
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Joel Klatt
What's up, dude?
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LeVar Arrington
How you doing, Breeze? Later, Brady. Yesterday, Joel, Klatt, Sanchez, we're just all stars.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, that's.
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LeVar Arrington
Now I will adm. I like the Buckeyes to win that game. It caught me a little off guard when you were broadcasting that game and because I was sitting there thinking, what is Clatt thinking? When you got to the late second quarter, were you thinking to yourself, what's Ohio State doing?
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Joel Klatt
I mean, yes, and I was saying that on the air a couple of times. But late in the second quarter, remember in the two minute series, right before the half, they finally started using tempo, some vertical routes and they went right down the field. And in a few of the series, let's remember in the first half, they were able to go right down the field. They were stopped on fourth down on one of those. And, and so they were gaining yards, throwing the football and that's where their advantage was. And our, my conversations, they knew that, you know, they understood that. And, and the first half played out. They go in with a, with a tie game, it's 10 to 10 and I'm thinking to myself, they get the ball. And what they just saw and learned in that last series was they're going to come right back to the tempo. But they didn't. Well, they didn't really.
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LeVar Arrington
Well, not on the first.
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Joel Klatt
And I just, I gotta tell you, it wasn't until after the game that it really dawned on me. I think that they were playing, you know, around Will Howard who was maybe banged up in that game. And after the early interception, I think that they got spooked a little bit in terms of the way that he was seeing the field. And then I think that they felt like their defense just would not give up a score because remember at that point it's 10, 10. And the only reason that Michigan scored was first and goal inside the five after the interception. And then they get a short punt and they get the ball in, go five yards and kick a 50 plus yard field goal. And so I think that Ryan and Chip in a, in a lot of ways looked at that, looked at the way their quarterback was playing, looked at the way their defense was playing. And I think that in the third quarter they thought to themselves One score wins this. I thought field goal wins this. And that's the way they called the game in the second half.
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LeVar Arrington
I think, you know, it's. It's interesting. What if he loses in the first round of the playoff?
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Joel Klatt
Oh, man.
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LeVar Arrington
Now, now, I wouldn't fire him, but I do think we can say this. When you stacked him up against Harbaugh, he felt like the second best coach on the field. That's okay. Most of the NFL does. So let's not overreact that Harbaugh beat him. Let's not overreact to that. Belichick beat Andy Reid. Andy Reid beat Belichick. Sometimes you lose to great coach.
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Joel Klatt
That's right.
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LeVar Arrington
Tom Coughlin, by the way, who should be in the hall of Fame. It's idiotic that he's not beat Belichick twice in the super bowl.
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Joel Klatt
Twice.
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LeVar Arrington
Great coaches beat great. By the way, Belichick for years struggled with Andy Reid even before he had Mahomes. It's okay to lose to Harbaugh. And this is what I would tell Ohio State fans. Just take the Harbaugh out. He's arguably next to Belichick and Reed and Sean Payton is best coach in the league football on the planet. But then there's a Clemson loss and then there's a Georgia loss. So in Ohio State's not reasonable. They're irrational. Do you think there's a chance he gets fired if he lost to Tennessee in the first round?
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Joel Klatt
I don't think so. I don't think so. Just because I'm only going based on what their athletic director has said. Ross Bjork. Remember, Ross is fairly new to the job. This is really his first full year on the job as athletic director at Ohio State. And I don't think that he wants to go down that road. I also think, and I know that, you know, people say, like, oh, you know, everyone has money, but it would costs a significant amount of money. Probably you're looking at upwards of 45 to 55 million dollars just to buy out the current coaching staff. You would need to then go and hire somebody and then spend money in the nil. You're looking at another 20 to 25 million to do that. So you're in the neighborhood of 75 to 85 million dollars to make that decision. And I don't think that that's. I don't think he has the appetite for it. And I don't think that that would be the right move. I really don't. And this is the other part of this is Like, I don't believe that. I don't think that this is going to last forever. I think that Ryan. Ryan is a very good coach. I think that there's a mental block with Michigan right now. And the game plan on Saturday, I think was evident of that. But there were obviously other factors. And this feels like something that when he gets over the hump, it's going to be big. I mean, Harbaugh didn't win over Urban Meyer, and they stuck with him. When they thought they would fire him in the COVID year, they stuck with him. And look at what happened. You look at the history of college football and what you'll see is that most often even the greatest coaches in the history of our sport have taken a while to win their championship. It took Osborne quite a while. It took Bowden quite a while. You know, it's very rare that you get these guys that win it right away, like Bob Stoops or Larry Coker. It's generally the opposite. Guys take a while. Urban Meyer took a while. Saban, it took a while as a head coach in order to get to that point and then eventually win the national championship.
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LeVar Arrington
And it's okay for people to learn on the job. I do think I said this. If you go look at Saban, he starts at Michigan State, I mean, I mean, he averaged seven wins or something like, then he goes to LSU and he goes to Miami. Doesn't work. Maybe could have eventually. And then he goes to Alabama. First year they lost to Louisiana, Monroe at home. The second year they got boat raced by Utah in the Sugar Bowl.
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Joel Klatt
Well, and they lost to Florida that year. As. As an undefeated, they couldn't beat Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer. So it. It took a while. I mean, Nick Saban didn't win a title until he's, you know, well into his head coaching career. So I'm with you. But I also understand like, that that fan base is irrational. There's no question about it.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Joel Klatt
And. And the problem, and I think Ryan would even admit this, is like, Saturday was not great, was not great at all because they allowed Michigan to get in their head to play the game, the only game that they could win. There was one out of ten paths for that Michigan team to beat this Ohio State team, and they allowed that path to take place.
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LeVar Arrington
I don't want to go Dr. Phil here, but I've got a theory a little bit on this. So there's certain things you can say to a Coastal elite. Not that I am one or know any, but if you Said to me, oh, coastal elite. I'd be like, yeah, 72 degrees today. How, how's it in Indy? I don't, I don't care if you call me the coastal elite either. To New Yorkers. I've been called that my whole life. And I'm like, I love the Midwest. I fly over it all the time. So. But in the Midwest. But in the Midwest, if you say to somebody you're soft, who they don't like that. We are soft out here.
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Joel Klatt
I'm soft.
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LeVar Arrington
I am. I took, I take work off for an ice cream headache. I will take a day off any day. But Midwestern people and Ryan Day was told the last three years, you're soft. Ohio State soft. You can't run the ball. And it got into his head.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah.
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LeVar Arrington
And I think if you told Lincoln Riley that or you told nobody cares, you know, I think that play, he was coaching that game to prove a point.
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Joel Klatt
Well, I know that that's the way it looks. I don't think that he was coaching to prove a point. If you gave him like if Will Howard is seeing the football field really well and playing well. They throw the ball all over the place. That game was called because of the way the game happened. I don't think it was. So I'm just disagreeing. I don't think he's there. Like we're going to prove we're tough. I believe that the circumstances of the way his defense was playing and the way his quarterback was playing led to the way that the game is called and the evidence is the third quarter. So in the third quarter, they've got first and 10 at the 19 yard line with about 6 minutes, 6, 22 left. That series ends in a really bad interception. Yes, really bad interception. Then immediately Davis Warren throws them an interception and Caleb Downs picks it off. It's a 16 yard line. Now it's first and 10 at the 16 yard line and your quarterback just threw a really bad interception. And guess what they did. Played for a field goal because they felt like a field goal was going to win the game at that point and they missed the field goal. So I thought that's what that was more what happened rather than this, this narrative of toughness and softness and everything like that. I will say, though it, generally speaking, it does feel, it does feel at times like Michigan is the guy in the lunchroom that's like, hit me in the stomach. And then Ohio State is like the fast popular kid that has all this skill and gets baited into a stomach punching. Contest with like O'Doyle, you know, Odoyo rules and it's like that's the way it feels.
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LeVar Arrington
That's a good one. I like that. So I'm just going to approach the. Nothing bothers me about the 12 team playoff. I would ideally not like to have a three loss team in there.
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Joel Klatt
Okay.
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LeVar Arrington
Ideally.
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Joel Klatt
Okay.
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LeVar Arrington
I'm not an idealist. Okay. I, I'm not like, I work in radio, tv. I understand the game. I'm a bad segment from working at Costco. Like I get it. So my point is.
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Joel Klatt
Wait, would you be a greeter?
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LeVar Arrington
Oh, I'd be the best.
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Joel Klatt
You would be the best greeter.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah. Batteries in the.
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Joel Klatt
Can you imagine Colin greeting at the, at Costco and he would just.
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LeVar Arrington
Why is that funny to you?
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Joel Klatt
Because you would just be like judging people as they walk by. I don't like your shoes. That his walk is weird right there. I don't think he's gonna get the sale.
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LeVar Arrington
You know, I can be a little judgy.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, that's fine.
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LeVar Arrington
Okay. So the point is on this and you're one of these reasonable people. I tried it always tries to throw a life preserver to the sad. You're very empathetic. I am not. Okay, I'm going to call it out. Hey, Miami, you plan a lousy conference. Your last two, your two losses, you don't beat any. You don't have a good win. Yeah, okay. Alabama's got three losses. Ideally I don't like that. I don't think you should have two mulligans. But they beat Georgia and you know, losing to Oklahoma is not the worst thing in the world. They also were three and one against ranked teams. So I don't like them having an extra money.
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Joel Klatt
There's not a great option. Let's start there.
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LeVar Arrington
So I'm taking Alabama over Miami is.
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Joel Klatt
A better option I think. I think based on the strength of schedule, based on what Miami did within their ACC play, they had a very favorable ACC schedule. They didn't have to play many of the.
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LeVar Arrington
Is there any other kind.
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Joel Klatt
See, there you go. There you go.
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LeVar Arrington
Greeting. I morphed right into snarky guy.
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Joel Klatt
You did. That's it. The snarky greeter. Bama's resume is not great, but to me the bubble was those four teams from 11 to 14. So it's Bama, it's South Carolina, it's Ole Miss and it's Miami. And if you put Alabama head to head, resume for resume with all of those bubble teams, they win the argument.
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LeVar Arrington
There you Go.
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Joel Klatt
I did this on my program for today's show. And I know people don't like it. I understand that. And I'm not saying that this is a great option. I'm just saying that in an argument, Bama wins those arguments.
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LeVar Arrington
Yes.
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Joel Klatt
Miami does not have a ranked win. You can point at that and you can say they're also losing at the wrong time. Losing two of their last three games.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah, this is.
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Joel Klatt
This is not a great option. And I don't think Alabama is a great team. I don't think that they have a chance to win the national championship. But in a resume argument with Miami, they win that argument. I think that that would be the main point.
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LeVar Arrington
Okay, so this whole flag planting.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah. At the end of the game.
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LeVar Arrington
Okay. So people overreact to everything. And my take is they're young people. These rivalry games, it's easy to sit, you know, a thousand miles away and go, what are these hooligans doing? But if you live in Columbus or Ann Arbor, this is a big deal for these kids.
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Joel Klatt
It's not just a big deal, Colin, by the way, like, think about. Think about it just for a moment.
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LeVar Arrington
Are you and I kind of saying it happened?
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Joel Klatt
I'm going to be similar with you here. Think about it for just a moment. Why do we love college football?
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LeVar Arrington
Passion, passion.
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Joel Klatt
Wild tribalism.
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LeVar Arrington
Yes. We feel regionalism.
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Joel Klatt
We love it as fans, as members of those institutions.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Joel Klatt
We are Gators, Seminoles, Buckeyes, Wolverines, Buffaloes. Wherever you went to school, I don't even know.
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LeVar Arrington
Screaming Eagles. Thank you.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, see, there you go. You know why is. Because we feel like, like part of our identity was forged at those places.
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LeVar Arrington
That's right.
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Joel Klatt
This is a real thing. This is a real thing. And in professional sports, you can't say that. You can't say, like, I am a cowboy. I mean, there are some that try and they're lunatics. And that's what's so great about college football. And so here's the problem with that, is that it makes it an incredibly emotional sport. Once it's emotional, then it can go right to the red line, in particular in rivalries. Now you've got like family rivalries, right? You got like blood thick rivalries going on. They go back decades and decades and decades. So if it overheats a little bit, I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water. It's part of what is college football now. Do I love it? No. Do I wish that it would take. Do I wish that this would Happen? No. Is it ugly for the sport? At times? Yes. However. However, if I'm going to love the sport because it goes up to that line, I cannot be upset when it inches over that line. And I'm not going to chastise the individuals for being emotional in that situation. I know what it feels like to lose to your rival at home. I know what it feels like to beat your rival on the road. One is elation and the other is the depth of depression that you can't even fathom.
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LeVar Arrington
Why?
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Joel Klatt
Because it's tribal. That's how we identify. So, folks, if you're mad at 18 to 22 year olds being emotional about what happens at the end of the game, I think your anger is misplaced.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah, we agree on that.
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Joel Klatt
So that makes me rethink my entire line of.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah, hey, I know what it's like to lose an intramural game in overtime.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah.
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LeVar Arrington
See, I went sideways. It's. I tell you what, I didn't sleep for half a day.
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Joel Klatt
I mean. And by the way, what's the fix? It's like, should we not have flags? Okay, but it's like Texas planted their flag on Michigan's field earlier this year. Baker Mayfield did it, you know, famously at Ohio State. This. This stuff happens.
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LeVar Arrington
Okay.
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Joel Klatt
I don't know, man.
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LeVar Arrington
So I was, you know, as I'm prone to do, I was at the big game, usc, Notre Dame, so. And sharing, you know, I try to add something. I just don't go to the game like you and then exit with a paycheck. I try to add something.
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Joel Klatt
Oh, interesting.
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LeVar Arrington
Ye. Maybe get on a headset. So anyway, here's my thing with Lincoln Riley. It's not the 6 and 6. It's not that.
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Joel Klatt
Really.
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LeVar Arrington
I don't love that because I think life has momentum and inertia. It could be six and six and you lost your star quarterback. Here's what bothers me. Today's recruiting day. Alabama is going to sign more kids from Southern California than usc.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, that's a huge problem.
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LeVar Arrington
That is an issue, is that there's this preciousness. That's the Lincoln Riley.
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Joel Klatt
I'll just say that it's like that is a way bigger issue than going six and six.
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LeVar Arrington
That's my point. It's. There's this thing, you know, and again, I don't want to bully people that are six and six. I think Brian Kelly's a great coach. Bad year.
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Joel Klatt
Well, and sc, I don't like their.
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LeVar Arrington
Lack of connectivity to the local dominant, great high schools.
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Joel Klatt
I'm Telling you, man, that's a problem. This is what's. This is what's wild is that you could build a top four college football team, probably the national champion and all you would have to do is go with a radius of. I'll call it 50 miles from USC.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Joel Klatt
And you can win the national championship.
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LeVar Arrington
I think you. I've always believed to get some of your. I think there are other parts of the country that deliver big defensive linemen. Yeah, we eat too well out here or something. I don't know what it is. Our linemen are like 260.
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Joel Klatt
That would be an area. Although guess who just put together one of the great defensive line performances I've ever seen from an individual. Mason Graham from Servite. From Servite, California. He was the LA county player of the year in the heavyweight wrestling and.
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LeVar Arrington
Had no interest in how he's playing here.
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Joel Klatt
Michigan.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Joel Klatt
And he almost single handedly, along with Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle, he almost single handedly beat Ohio State because Ohio State decided they were going to run the football. Right on. He was unblockable. Single teams, double teams, didn't matter. And he's from Servite and it's like what?
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LeVar Arrington
He wasn't interested. Smart kid.
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Joel Klatt
That's a problem. Went to Jim harbor, but that's a problem.
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LeVar Arrington
It is a problem.
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Joel Klatt
That's a problem.
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LeVar Arrington
I'll throw this out. Let me end it here. Put a bow on it. It's good to see you.
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Joel Klatt
It's great to see you because a.
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LeVar Arrington
Lot of times you come here and I know I'm going to have to be hard on you.
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Joel Klatt
Was today one of those days?
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LeVar Arrington
No, I thought was pretty nice.
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Joel Klatt
I said when I agree with you. You think?
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LeVar Arrington
No. You and I disagreed a lot.
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Joel Klatt
When?
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LeVar Arrington
Well, when I threw that pretty accurate theory on Ryan Day. Midwest, we're soft. It got into his head.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, but that was just wrong.
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LeVar Arrington
Oh, okay. Sure, you bet. Okay. Well, it happens infrequently, but I'll own it. Okay, let's do this. Is that. Now here's the best part. So you're not like this, but a lot of people are like this. They don't like change. I can remember when I was a kid and the speed limit was 55 to 65.
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Joel Klatt
Oh.
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LeVar Arrington
I had somebody in my family. We're all going to die. And the manufacturer said, let's build better cars. No, I mean the Autobahn had a better safety record than our freeways and they're driving 100.
- [25:29]
Joel Klatt
Yeah.
- [25:30]
LeVar Arrington
The bottom line is society changes. People overreact. Baseball. Oh, you put in a pitcher's clock, attendance up, ratings up, games faster. It's better for the sport. Fox just broke records in baseball and they made a bunch of changes. They're going to make another one. The golden at bat.
- [25:43]
Joel Klatt
Yeah, I heard about that.
- [25:44]
LeVar Arrington
Yeah, I love that. Okay, so my point is all this nil and transfer portal, it's a lot of motion for college football. But here's the great part about it. The unintended benefit that I didn't see coming, it eliminates great teams.
- [25:59]
Joel Klatt
That's right.
- [26:00]
LeVar Arrington
Because Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, Notre Dame, they get the, they stockpile talent. Well now, now all these Georgia, all these Louisville's or Oregon's or Washington's, a UCLA or whoever it is has money goes. Do you want to be a backup left tackle? You're a five star kid. Come start for us in la.
- [26:19]
Joel Klatt
This is exactly right and it's great.
- [26:21]
LeVar Arrington
It's an unintended benefit is that you're like the Bama stuff. Congrats to Bama. That's not happening ever again.
- [26:27]
Joel Klatt
I don't think so either. I don't think so. I think the closest thing that we've got to a team that could really dominate for a few years is Texas right now with the way that they've, they've built their roster. But talented players are unwilling to be backups. That's, I mean that's just the way college football is. And before they were forced to be backups if they wanted to play for the teams that could compete for and win the national championship because that was such a narrow scope of who could actually compete for and win national championships. So now you expand it out. So I'm just talking about the expansion of the playoffs and how that drives parity. But then you also have now resources in terms of how teams and programs all over the country can spend money on nil.
- [27:07]
LeVar Arrington
That's right.
- [27:07]
Joel Klatt
The transfer portal allows for that freedom to go to different places. And now all of a sudden you've got teams like Indiana in the playoff and Arizona State playing for a right to go to the playoff, in Iowa State for the right to go to the playoffs.
- [27:19]
LeVar Arrington
I watched 1300 overtimes in Georgia, Georgia Tech. I'm still not sure who the better team is.
- [27:25]
Joel Klatt
That's 100%.
- [27:26]
LeVar Arrington
Georgia Tech was an engineering school. And I'm like, I think they're better than Georgia.
- [27:29]
Joel Klatt
There is the peak. So the best teams can be has been brought down just a little bit and the middle, and the middle has risen and college football has never been better. Because of it. And now all of a sudden, the regular season has been the best, best regular season that I can remember as far as competitiveness. Now you can say, like, well, there's, you know, Georgia's not great and this is, this is not good. Yes, it's fantastic, actually. It's fantastic that even Ohio State, with this roster that we all thought was the best roster that we had seen in a long time, is not infallible.
- [28:01]
LeVar Arrington
Look at, look at. Oregon is undefeated. Narrowly beat Boise State.
- [28:05]
Joel Klatt
That's right. Narrowly beat Idaho. It's true.
- [28:08]
LeVar Arrington
It's great.
- [28:09]
Joel Klatt
So I'm with you. That's why I look at this playoff and I think that there could be some real chaos. I think there could be some real chaos. I think that there's going to be a couple of first round matchups.
- [28:20]
LeVar Arrington
Yep.
- [28:21]
Joel Klatt
Pending the way that this weekend goes. Think about this. If Oregon beats Penn State, they fall probably behind Georgia and Ohio State. If Texas beats Georgia, they probably sit in there, right there. That means, I think that we're likely to get. I think that there's a good chance that we get some sort of like Tennessee at Penn State, Alabama at Ohio State, probably Indiana at Georgia. That's the way the first round kind of looks. And if Clemson's able to beat smu, it would be Clemson at Notre Dame. I believe that's going to be the first round of the college football playoffs.
- [28:51]
LeVar Arrington
I'm glad we ended on a good spot. You can be a bit of a grudge holder.
- [28:54]
Joel Klatt
You know, we got there. Takes a while.
- [28:57]
LeVar Arrington
But you know, you dismissed about 30, 40, 50% of what I said. And yet, and yet look at us.
- [29:04]
Joel Klatt
You know, it's like disagree so well. I feel like we hugged at the end of dinner.
- [29:09]
LeVar Arrington
Drive home in a good mood.
- [29:10]
Joel Klatt
It's a model for America right here.
- [29:12]
LeVar Arrington
That's a good way to put it. Yeah. This show is.
- [29:14]
Joel Klatt
And this segment, well, more so this segment.
- [29:16]
LeVar Arrington
Okay, sure.
- [29:17]
Joel Klatt
But sure.
- [29:17]
LeVar Arrington
Even on the way out, it's got to be snarky. Hey, got a Costco greeter against the king of snark. You choose America. Who you like. Because I know I've made my choice.
- [29:26]
Joel Klatt
Did you just hear somebody walks in? Nice sweater. It'd be that actually, we should film it. This would be amazing. Colin is a greeter.
- [29:35]
LeVar Arrington
Let's not go there.
- [29:36]
Joel Klatt
Okay.
- [29:37]
LeVar Arrington
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LeVar Arrington
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- [34:21]
Joy Taylor
We're contractually obligated to talk about Russell Wilson since everybody loves him. He's one of your favorite quarterbacks.
- [34:26]
LeVar Arrington
Yes.
- [34:27]
Joy Taylor
Remember when people were doubting Tomlin going.
- [34:29]
LeVar Arrington
To Wilson from oh, everybody, Big Ben.
- [34:32]
Joy Taylor
Everybody was Russell Wilson. Ten touchdowns, three interceptions. The Steelers are five and one since the move. Here's Tomlin on his quarterback. I don't know, you know, he's a football guy. You know, he loves football. He likes to work. I think that if you, if you had that general approach, this is probably an easy train to get on because that's my tenor.
- [34:56]
LeVar Arrington
That's our tenor.
- [34:57]
Joy Taylor
We love football. We like to work at it.
- [35:00]
LeVar Arrington
Have you seen the new HBO Hard Knocks with Tomlin?
- [35:04]
Joy Taylor
I have not, no. Do I need to?
- [35:06]
LeVar Arrington
I didn't see it last night. The staff said this morning Tomlin comes across as very strong, very well equipped, really impressive, you know, because he's running the show, which we talked about, you and I both talked about. Russ doesn't have to be a savior. Russ just has to fit into this really good program in Denver. Russ is like, hey, save us. And it didn't work. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, jet, save us. It doesn't work. Stafford wasn't asked to save the franchise. They'd just been to a Super Bowl. Brady goes to Tampa. He was asked to elevate a team that was 500 with Jameis Winston throwing 30 picks. So what's interesting is Russ goes to this place that drafts, develops, it's tough. They win, they go to the playoffs and he's like, hey, can you just elevate the offense? And apparently the HBO show it. Tomlin's very formidable in it. Not a surprise.
- [35:54]
Joy Taylor
So have we said enough good stuff about Russ?
- [35:56]
LeVar Arrington
Can I question why you don't like.
- [35:58]
Joy Taylor
Okay, no, I don't. It's not that I don't like it. Remember people said I look a little like Russell Wilson? I don't. Whatever, Colin. This is a six game sample size six. If you remember last year, Joe Flacco came off the sofa. He was raking leaves with his kids. Then he was starting like three weeks later and he went on fire. And the Browns were excellent down the stretch and everybody got excited about Flacco. We know what he is. Is this just a small sample size of Russ cooking? Right.
- [36:25]
LeVar Arrington
Right.
- [36:25]
Joy Taylor
And he's going to come back down to earth here later in the season. Do you believe that?
- [36:28]
LeVar Arrington
No, I think Russell is much closer to his prime than Flacco is. And I don't think Russell's in his prime, but I think Russell is 79%, 81% of his prime. Aaron Rodgers is about 38% of his prime. Flacco is about 28%. Russ is closer to 75% of his prime. He's not quite as elusive. I still think he throws the exact same velocity and accuracy he's always thrown. He's just, he's. He was closer to Kyler Murray seven years ago. He's not quite as elusive, but he still moves well. And he, I still, I think he, he also is a off season grinder. So he's aging, I think, gracefully. If you take out the Hackett year and you go Seattle, Sean Payton, Denver to this, he's 100 passer rating guy. That's what he is.
- [37:18]
Joy Taylor
One data point passer rating.
- [37:20]
LeVar Arrington
Well, it's kind of the big one.
- [37:22]
Joy Taylor
Is it? Listen, again, Russ has been excellent.
- [37:24]
LeVar Arrington
There's no denying in school.
- [37:26]
Joy Taylor
How do you go from being total garbage two years ago with Hackett?
- [37:31]
LeVar Arrington
Well, because Hackett doesn't know what he's doing. I mean, he got demoted As a coordinator in New York.
- [37:35]
Joy Taylor
That's fair. And then last year he put up pretty good stats with Peyton. Actually his stats are, you know, kind of comparable to what he's done this year.
- [37:42]
LeVar Arrington
That's right.
- [37:43]
Joy Taylor
But it just, you know, salary wise.
- [37:44]
LeVar Arrington
He was A in his prime. He's B now.
- [37:47]
Joy Taylor
Do you think he's got like his own office and all this stuff that he.
- [37:50]
LeVar Arrington
No, no. Which I didn't love that, but it wasn't the end of the world. I'm.
- [37:54]
Joy Taylor
I'm actually has changed who he is.
- [37:57]
LeVar Arrington
It's not that he's changed. When he went to Denver, he was viewed as a little bit of the savior and I think they over indulged him. I don't think it means he can't be humble and grateful. It just. Listen, it just happens. I've seen it in my business, any business. They coddled him for a year and then Sean came in and said this is nonsense. Hang out with the players.
- [38:18]
Joy Taylor
And that didn't.
- [38:20]
LeVar Arrington
But by the way, he did. He and Peyton were never going to work because they're both offensive guys with a worldview of offense. Tomlin, Pete, Carroll can work. They're defensive guys and they're going to let Russ do his thing. Whereas Peyton's like, has a strong view of offense and this is how he views it. That's why Bo Nicks as a rookie comes in and Sean's like, this is how you win at this level. And Bo Nicks is like, yeah, okay, coach. Whereas Russ was established and had been to Super Bowls and had a little bit of a.
- [38:48]
Joy Taylor
He also rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in Seattle. Come on, we heard. I know when he was at rock bottom with Hack, the stories were out there from all the four players.
- [38:57]
LeVar Arrington
I get it. I'm not denying those.
- [38:59]
Joy Taylor
So is it possible that someone can change to the level he's changed? Because I'm telling you right now, if they go pay him $40 million a year, is he gonna turn into the old Russ who's like, hey, I don't know why. I don't want you guys to know where I live, but I'm having a party. You remember that story we heard? Crazy stuff.
- [39:15]
LeVar Arrington
I got a little.
- [39:16]
Joy Taylor
Someone changed that dramatically in the span of two years at the edges.
- [39:20]
LeVar Arrington
I don't think he changed. I think it's very possible for people in their 30s to. Sometimes you sign a new deal, you get a new Maserati. I think it. People change, but I think you always come back to your values, sort of your Moral fiber. And I think Russ at his core is a good guy.
- [39:39]
Joy Taylor
I know people, I would agree with you. I know people are hearing this saying, J. Mac, you're a hater. I like Russell Wilson. I'm just pushing back because that's what I do well. You know, the show works well when I push back. Next up, the Chiefs tackle situation has been a nightmare. It's a mess in August. Colin, the kid from BYU has been a turnstile and the other dude, Morris, oh my gosh, he's pathetic. So they have acquired D.J. humphries.
- [40:03]
LeVar Arrington
Is he supposed to be really good recently?
- [40:05]
Joy Taylor
So I was just digging into it. We'll get to that after we.
- [40:07]
LeVar Arrington
I've heard of him.
- [40:08]
Joel Klatt
I don't know if.
- [40:08]
LeVar Arrington
Is he a high rated tackle?
- [40:10]
Joy Taylor
Casey? Yeah, we'll talk about it. Casey expects him to play this week, possibly start. Here's Mahomes on his new guy. I think more day. Man, you just want to get him comfortable. I mean he has to get comfortable within the offense. He has to get comfortable physically.
- [40:23]
LeVar Arrington
I mean coming back from injury and, and getting those reps and stuff like that without having practice in training camp.
- [40:28]
Joel Klatt
And he's doing that, man, he's a truest pro.
- [40:31]
LeVar Arrington
He's not only working himself back into shape, but he's helping other guys as well. And so whenever he's ready, he'll have opportunities to go out there. But until then, we're going to let.
- [40:41]
Joy Taylor
These guys roll and we have full.
- [40:44]
LeVar Arrington
Belief that the guys that are out.
- [40:45]
Joy Taylor
There are going to make it happen.
- [40:47]
LeVar Arrington
I kind of like the Chiefs in this spot at home Sunday night.
- [40:50]
Joy Taylor
The Chargers are so banged up.
- [40:52]
LeVar Arrington
No dirt.
- [40:52]
Joy Taylor
J.K. dobbins. And did you see McConkey may not go like. Yeah, he's all their offense anyways, let's get to DJ Humphries. So last week Mahomes was sacked five times. Remember that On Thanksgiving.
- [41:04]
LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [41:05]
Joy Taylor
What's his name? Crosby was just annihilating the left tackle. So they, they're going to start Humphries. He's a former first round pick. He made a Pro Bowl. He got. He tore his ACL last year. The Cardinals cut him to save like 15.
- [41:18]
LeVar Arrington
I remember that.
- [41:19]
Joy Taylor
But this is the one stat that jumped out as a potential huge win. He was a four time team captain in Arizona. He was beloved in the locker room when he was cut. Kyler Murray shouted him out.
- [41:30]
LeVar Arrington
And the Chiefs have done a great job. Defined transitional pieces. They do this very, very well. Juju Smith Schuster in Pittsburgh, they're done with him. He goes, he's productive. They let him go. New England can't do anything with him. They bring him back. They've done a very good job. I mean, Kareem Hunt was done. Now he's back.
- [41:47]
Joy Taylor
He was totally.
- [41:48]
LeVar Arrington
So, I mean, Kansas City does a really good job of inside the league, scouting and finding guys that fit their culture. And I guarantee you, I didn't know that captain thing, Humphries, that's a good fit for him.
- [41:59]
Joy Taylor
He's like a leader. Like he's a, he's a grower.
- [42:01]
LeVar Arrington
Those guys mature.
- [42:02]
Joy Taylor
And if you remember their super bowl loss when it was Tampa Bay's guys just crushed them off the edge. Mahomes running for his life. They cannot have a repeat of that. You mentioned Chargers, chief. So the line is four. Chargers played a real tough and so five, I think.
- [42:18]
LeVar Arrington
But I think it comes down to this, what you pointed out. This is one of my favorite picks of the week. Kansas City, the Chargers. Sometimes in football it's just a bad spot. This is a bad spot for the Chargers because the Raiders. So Kansas City plays poorly and wins. Okay, so they're coming off a game in which they're like they're going to be motivated. They almost lost to the Raiders. I think they'll play very well.
- [42:40]
Joy Taylor
They haven't covered a spread, I believe in six weeks, six games, last six. They're just not covering at all. Do you think they can cover 4? They can't get separation. Colin and the Chargers run defense pretty good. I know Bijan had 100, but there was no like major explosives.
- [42:53]
LeVar Arrington
I don't know how the Chargers generate offense. That's. That's the question. That feels like an under. It feels like 2317 right now.
- [43:00]
Joy Taylor
Clinton Johnston going to catch passes this time. I was at the Ravens game. We had three drops. Oh, my gosh. Anyway, final story is Jordan Love. So remember he had that eight game stretch with at least one interception. Well, he's cleaned it up. No Turnovers the last two games. Packers 2 and oh, in those games. And they've won handily, obviously. Massive game tomorrow night.
- [43:20]
LeVar Arrington
Packers Lions, best Thursday game maybe ever.
- [43:23]
Joy Taylor
I think you already invited me to go out for drinks to watch this one, but I haven't responded to you yet.
- [43:27]
LeVar Arrington
Okay, that was a joke of hands in town.
- [43:31]
Joy Taylor
Oh, the whites. Oh, exciting. Who you got in this one? Jordan Love or Jared Goff?
- [43:35]
LeVar Arrington
Well, it's six. I love the packers at three. I still, if it got to three, it's a stay away at three and a half. Green Bay plus three and a half. I would take the packers, dude. I just at six I thought you call it the look ahead line at six. I thought it was an insane number.
- [43:49]
Joy Taylor
I just looked at the Lions injury report. Three defensive linemen, including two starters have not practiced this week. Probably not a good sign. This feels like a Josh Jacobs 25 kind of carry game. Even the backup, I think his name's Wilson. This is going to be a tough one. Now the packers defense, O'Callin is not very good. Jair Alexander hasn't played in a minute. High scoring game, low scoring. What's the lead game?
- [44:12]
LeVar Arrington
High scoring. I think 28, 28, 27. Good football game.
- [44:18]
Joy Taylor
Who wins?
- [44:20]
LeVar Arrington
I'm taking the points.
- [44:23]
Joy Taylor
Okay, so you take the three.
- [44:24]
LeVar Arrington
Last team with the ball wins. Field goal wins it. Walk off field goal win for one of the teams.
- [44:29]
Joy Taylor
28, 27. Who's more pressure on the Lions, right? They're holding off the Eagles and you sweep the pack. You got you know you're in clear in clear flow.
- [44:37]
LeVar Arrington
You don't want a young Green Bay team not at their peak beating you at your peak. That's not at your place. Not good. J Mac with the news well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news what makes the holiday special? The details from Genesis like available heated steering, available nappa leather seating, $1,000 bonus on select vehicles. Deal ends January 2nd. Details make the holidays go to genesis.com Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Did you know the PayPal debit card now earns you 5% cash back in the monthly category of your choosing? Groceries, health, restaurants, beauty, gas and apparel in up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Sephora and Instacart. It's like having a little extra in your pocket every month. I'm using PayPal debit card to earn 5% cash back on apparel. With my travel schedule, I'm on the go. Sometimes I have to buy clothes online. It's the new normal. Just sign up for the PayPal debit card through the new app and you're ready to go. Download the new PayPal app. Sign up Start earning 5% cash back today. Don't just pay PayPal terms and limits apply. See paypal.com rewardspal Cashback earned as points redeemable for cash and other options on up to $1,000 spend per month. The PayPal Debit MasterCard is issued by the Bancor Bank N.A. pursuant to license by Mastercard International, Inc. And may be used everywhere MasterCard is accepted. How do you recognize elegant design? It's all about the details and the 2025 Genesis GV70 has athletic lines and a graceful coupe like profile. An artfully crafted SUV down to the smallest detail. An SUV with dynamic design with a premium interior that is both graceful and sporty. The GV70 offers a thrilling performance no matter where you're going. Exciting performance always at your fingertips and with launch control. Enjoy the thrilling power of takeoff. Standard navigation system with a stunning 14.5 high def screen. You're never lost. Unless of course you want to be. An advanced array of cameras and sensors. Never gets tired or distracted so it always has your back. Standard advanced safety including a segment first center airbag for peace of mind all the time. Visit Genesis.com to learn more about the GV70. That's Genesis.com as we gather together during.
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- [49:01]
LeVar Arrington
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Dak Prescott was on a Podcast Cowboy fans may not want to hear this, but Dak Prescott is saying, Mike McCarthy is my guy.
- [50:30]
Joel Klatt
I believe in him wholeheartedly. I don't want to necessarily get into the nuts and the screws of it all, obviously, but I think he definitely deserves a chance, another contract and a chance to coach this team amongst and kind of, I guess you can say, more influence on his terms. Maybe a good way to say it.
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LeVar Arrington
Here's the thing. Jerry Jones is 82. There may be part of him that doesn't want to start from scratch again. That's part of it. Secondly, McCarthy can go. Well, Mike and Dak got hurt and they play the Bengals and the Panthers next and the Cowboys have five wins. What if they end up, you know, what if they end up with seven, eight wins? McCarthy's like, can you imagine if I had Dak and Micah Parsons? We're a 10 win team, so I don't think they stack up with the best teams in football. I don't think they're relatively close to Green Bay, Detroit, Philadelphia, and I think one more draft they're not going to be close to the Rams. I don't think they're Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City. I don't think they're as good as Houston. So I Don't think they're close. But I also think Jerry Jones could have a little bit of guilt because Derrick Henry flourishing in Baltimore, they could have had last year and this year for 8 million bucks and Jerry passed on him. And you look at it now and Jerry Jones is thinking, you get a lot of criticism for that. So I think there's a lot of things. I think Jerry's 82. Jerry's a little guilty what he handed McCarthy. McCarthy can point to Dak and Micah injuries. I had said before the season, I thought the Cowboys this year would be the start of a decade long regression. A lot of it tied to Dak being massively overpaid. It's an aging roster, an aging owner, an overpaid quarterback. It's all happening and it all happens very fast in this league. So you saw it with San Francisco, Super Bowl 2, what a mess. Dallas, 12 wins 2, what a mess. New England dynasty to Mac Jones is the future. So this is a cruel league because you're getting tackled and a lot of guys get hurt and Dak gets hurt and Micah gets hurt and all of a sudden you're one of the worst teams in the league. But now they're starting to stockpile wins with Cincinnati and Carolina coming up and they may get to seven wins and Jerry's 82. And it's like he's guilty about not giving Mike McCarthy much of a roster to work with and he doesn't want to start over. So I think you have to consider it. It's weird. You get into these big brands like the Lakers and the Cowboys, and they're incredibly cautious. You'd think, oh, they take big swings. But the money is so big. There's so much to lose. Dak at least makes you competent. You can win nine, ten games with Dak. The people that take big swings are the Houston Texans or like, if you, if you like Washington. We're clearing everybody out. Well, they got nothing to lose. Dallas has a lot to lose. They've been winning a lot of games. They're on television. The Lakers have a lot to lose. Let's go, let's go hire a friend of the late Kobe Bryant to be our general manager. Let's keep it all in house. So I thought they were going to fire Mike McCarthy. Two or three weeks ago, they beat Cincinnati and Carolina. I'm not so sure. I mean, Dak wants him. Star quarterback likes him. Star quarterback wins with him, is productive with him. Drew Brees is around the corner, a first ballot hall of Famer. Very soon this podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Now here's the kicker. The PayPal debit card earns you 5% cash back in a monthly category of your Choice. Up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. So groceries, health and beauty, gas, apparel restaurants. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Instacart, Sephora. This month, it's all about that apparel. I got a crazy schedule. I shop online a lot, snag a suit here or there, fresh gear. 5% cash back adds up fast and signing up is easy. Just Download the new PayPal app to sign up and you're ready to start earning cash back on your everyday purchases. Pay smart. Earn cash back. Enjoy peace of mind with a PayPal debit card. Don't just pay PayPal terms apply. See PayPal app cash back earned as points you can redeem for cash and other options. This card, issued by the Bancorp and a person went to license by MasterCard International, Inc. It's football season and UberEats is dropping undefeated deals and all your game day favorites this week. Score buy one get one free world famous pangate combos from iHop only on UberEats. Craving even more? We've got you covered with gameday deals on pizza, burgers, tacos and more all season long. Uber Eats Official on demand Food delivery partner of the NFL. Order now for game day terms, taxes and fees apply. Seat for details as we gather together.
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