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Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in this is the Herd, wherever you may be and however you may make it as part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb, in for Colin Cowherd. And for the next Couple of hours. I want to talk sports with you. We got the sweet 16 continuing on four have moved forward. What a performance from Alabama and Florida and Texas Tech and I love Duke and the dookies and, and look, I mean I can, I, I understand what Colin has been saying about People didn't really love the Cinderella's. Not everybody knows what they love but they do. They like the David versus Goliath. They like the again, it doesn't mean that it was always great basketball with when you had one one division state tournaments like you used to have back in Indiana. Obviously that's when Mylan High school or even when you had two or three divisions but when you have like 15 divisions and everybody's the state champion, you're like come on, like what are we actually doing here? And I use that because Cinderella not really having much of a fight, right? It's, it's one thing if it's one thing if you have, you have high powered teams that can pay the best players to come aboard. It's a whole other thing if the high power teams can sit there and go like hey let's, let's go watch the mid majors play. And then every guy they get that's pretty good. When they get to be 23, 24 and they get a year or get an extra year then we'll, we'll pay him to sit on the bench. Like that's just the reality of it. So to people who don't understand what's happened in college basketball, you have, you have teams that have literally 30x the money of others, 40x the money of others competing an NCAA tournament game. If you look at my bracket, it is nearly flawless. And it's because all I did when I picked my bracket as a current sitting college basketball coach, hey, I put no money on it, right? I just went to foxportrade.com my boss is like you got to do it. All right, I'll do it. I just said hey, who's got more nil? And then obviously once it gets to be sort of equal in nil, then I don't know, just on matchups I picked a couple but you're like man, how boring. You pick four one seeds. Like yeah, they got more money than the other teams, duh. And they got really good coaches because what the SEC did about, I don't know, probably started about eight, nine, 10 years ago was first they got serious about basketball. It's serious about basketball. Auburn hired Bruce Pearl. Obviously you look at Tennessee and they go and you know, you Hire a guy who I think everybody respects. Everybody respects. And as much. As much as maybe he hasn't won an NCAA championship, he's only been to one Final Four. Rick Barnes, hell of a coach, right? I mean, you go on Rick Barnes, you have John Caliperi, you kind of go through the list. You're like. Even before that, when Arkansas had Eric Musselman, like Musk was. Had it rolling at Nevada, they went out and spent a bunch of money on coaches, a bunch of money on facilities, a bunch of money on all the support staff. And then once you got to where you could spend your money on players, they went all in. I liken what's happened to the SEC in basketball of what's happened when Barry Bonds was on steroids, right? Like, think about it. Sammy Sosa was a platoon guy who went on the juice and became a prodigious home run hitter. Obviously, he couldn't sustain it. He wasn't the world's greatest hitter, but he was an unbelievable weapon because he was clearly on steroids. It can also prolong great careers. Roger Clemens, right? You take a Roger Clemens, one of the greatest pitchers, but he started to fade. And then all of a sudden he started juicing up. And we saw what happened in Toronto and after he left Toronto or into Toronto, and then when he came back down into the contiguous 50 states and what he did late in his career, right? It elongates your career. But then you give Barry Bonds, who was already a Hall of Famer, like one of the great hitters of any generation, he started to fade, too. You give a great hitter the best drugs, and guess what? He becomes the best hitter we've ever, ever, ever seen. He doesn't get tired, his body doesn't break down. And yeah, he had 77 home runs. He probably would have had 90 if they pitched to him. That's what happened to the sec. They were already all in on basketball. You already had Kentucky, right? Now, you give the conference that is in proximity to many of the best athletes, and they were already trending in the way of being the best basketball conference. But what's happened? How did we go from Syracuse and Louisville and North Carolina and look, North Carolina spent a lot of money this year, but all this historic acc. What Pitt, what happened to those teams? And how'd they get left in the dust by Ole Miss? The haircut, beard. And they got huge money. So they did both. They spent that money on coaches, on facilities, and now they spend it on players. It's Barry Bonds on steroids. Yeah, Duh. You know what happened to Michigan, right? Michigan got a great coach in Dusty May and then they opened up their wallets and they went out and bought a really good team. You combined a really good coach and a really good team with a really good facilities and a really good school, and guess what? They're awesome. Duh. Wasn't that hard. And Colin can say whatever he wants, but everyone's memory of the Final Four may be memories of whomever in the past, right? You may not think the Butler run because they were a top 10 team, but the Butler, Butler will never be in the Final Four again in this current climate because it's not that you have to beat one team that has even Butler now, one team that has, say, Butler's. I don't know what their nil is. Let's say a million. Like you go against $5 million, $6 million, $7 million teams in three consecutive rounds, you're not going to. The likelihood of winning is nominal at best. And you used to be able to compete because you'd have, they'd have younger players, you'd have older players and you'd be able to have cohesion. You don't have that anymore. So again, we may say, hey, it's. If the times have changed, they have. This is the current landscape. But you can't possibly say that you like it more in the early rounds of the tournament because the early rounds of the tournament were about Vermont beating Syracuse. We're about Middle Tennessee State pulling upsets. East Tennessee State.
Keith
Keith.
Doug Gottlieb
Mr. Jennings, herald the show. Arseno at Weber State beating, beating North Carolina, Kent State getting to Elite 8 with Trevor Huffman as their point guard. Like, you name it. Steph Curry. I don't care how good Steph Curry. Like Steph Curry, as good as he is, right. His last year at Davidson, he would have been at one of the ACC or SEC schools. Like, well, he comes for money. Like, do you think no matter what, like, Steph Curry is the current GM of Davidson's program. They just lost their best player to the Portal. Why? Because what's the most they can pay him? A couple hundred thousand dollars. Great. He can make a million or more playing at one of the big boys. And as a college player, if you, if you know, hey, I'm never going to make a million dollars playing basketball ever. Most kids will take it. All right, let's get to the, the, the story of the week, which is LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith. I'm Doug Alleyman for calling. This is the Herd on FOX Sports Radio. I. I don't know how much you guys listen to my show, and I gotta never assume is the rule in sports radio. So the fact that I've said this before, if you listen to me on a daily basis, I don't apologize. It is my job to iterate and reiterate myself. I don't understand why LeBron did this. I just don't like the. I've been quiet my whole career, and I'm going to body slam Brian Windhorst because he got his first job. You know, he first got. Got his breakthrough job because of whatever was assumed about his relationship with LeBron. What is the win? What's what? What was won by LeBron James calling out Stephen A. Smith for. What do you say? His Taylor Swift tour, which. It's a great line, clearly a prepared line, but a really good line. What was won by him saying, hey, Giannis would have had 250 points. Like, what. What exactly was accomplished? All it gave was some sort of credence or some sort of amplification. What a great word, right? Amplification. I'm gonna win Scrabble tonight, kids. Amplification of what Stephen A. Was saying. Yeah, of course. Stephen A exposed himself as. Not like, dude, if LeBron James would have put his hands on. Would put his hands on me, I would. We would have thrown down like, stop it. You're embarrassing yourself. You're embarrassing yourself. In addition to being 10 years older than LeBron James, he's 6, 8, 260 pounds. Stop it. There's nothing worse than a fake tough guy. And then, of course, he said LeBron wasn't at Kobe's funeral. He's like, my bad. Earlier today, he said, Nolan Richardson, God rest his soul, no. Richard is the former head coach of Arkansas. They won a national championship. Norton is very much alive and well. Yeah. Did he expose Stephen A. As being a guy who is riding the coattails of LeBron James, of who Stephen A. Actually is? And did Stephen A. Expose himself as a guy who does not do the homework, he just does the performance? Of course. But what's the win in it for LeBron? Pointing out other people's flaws like, it may feel good in the moment, but why have you had to, at the end of the day, like, you're LeBron James. They're not. You scored more points than anyone in the history of the NBA. You're not going to. There's no fight you're going to win with people who believe, like myself, that Michael Jordan was the better all time.
Dan
Player.
Doug Gottlieb
There's no. There's no fight. Anything you do just reiterates it, right? Two nights ago, they win on a tip in. In Indy. He doesn't play particularly well offensively. But if you're. Was it. What do they call them? LeBron Sexuals. You're a LeBron Sexual. You're like, see the goat? And if you're not, if you're a LeBron hater, you're like, yeah, well, that's why he doesn't take the game winning shot. But what, what was LeBron's need to say? I didn't side with Nike because they had Michael Jordan. I signed with Nike because they offered more money. $90 million or. Actually, he didn't say more money. He just said, I got $90 million. Where again, Pat McAfee, if it was a normal interview, the follow up was, what was the Adidas offer? Because if you sign for less money with Nike than you did with Adidas, well, then why did you sign with Nike? Nike better. I think the answer would be, yeah, but $20 million better. Or was it because of Jordan's legacy? Why did you wear number 23? Duh. But again, what is, what is the actual win? Here's Charles Barkley with Dan Patrick earlier today on fox sports radio.
Colin Cowherd
LeBron, he's too big to be that type of bully. To bully Stephen A. And to bully Brian Woodhorse. Brian Woodhouse is a sweet person, man. He's just trying to do his thing. And I've always liked LeBron, but him being a bully, it turned me off.
Dan
Dan.
Colin Cowherd
But I will say that Stephen A, the way he reacted was so lame and weak. LeBron, like I say, I blame him for starting the bullying going on Pat's.
Doug Gottlieb
Show, just bullying people.
Colin Cowherd
But the way Stephen A. Reacted, going on Gilbert's podcast, talking tough.
Doug Gottlieb
And I said, come on, man, you're better than that.
Colin Cowherd
So there's only. There's only losers in this scenario, correct?
Doug Gottlieb
Correct. Tell you a story real quick. Okay. And I'm not LeBron James. Matter of fact, I'm the opposite of LeBron James, even when I worked on ESPN covering college basketball. But a lesson that I learned long time ago, I was doing halftime of the ACC tournament, and Mike Krzychefski, coach K. Was the coach of Duke, and I think they were playing Maryland at the time. And at halftime, they interviewed Chris Collins, who's now Northwestern's head coach, was then the associate head coach. And they come to us in studio, and I immediately said, and Duke was like losing by two points. Why do we hear from Chris Collins? Because everybody, at that point in time, I think only CBS would get Coach K at halftime. And remember, it's two questions. What do you think of the first half, Coach? What are you going to do the second half? Thanks, coach. Right. That's all you really ask. But they're down two points and the sideline reporter goes to Chris Collins and Chris Collins gives two really good answers and they come back to studio and I said like, why? Why are we hearing from an assistant coach, not from Coach K? And there's a guy named Scott Reese. And Scott was our host at the time. Scott's like, well, what's the matter with that? I was like, well, because when you go into the locker room, unless it's that assistant scout, you don't hear from all the other assistants. The assistants make suggestions, but the head coach makes the substitutions, makes the final decisions. And oh yeah, by the way, he's Mike freaking Krzyzewski. He's coach of Team USA Basketball. He's the most successful modern day basketball coach in the history of the sport. Yeah, I'd like to ask him two questions or you have to like, I'm not going to do the interview if we can't hear from Coach K. So we get done with the segment, we go to break and there's a red phone behind me. And the man that hired me at ESPN is a guy named Dan Steer. Dan Steers nickname is the Vision because the Vision sees things other people do not. So the Vision calls me and he says, what the F are you doing? I was like, I just did halftime Vision. Like, what? Why are you calling out Duke and calling out Coach K for not doing an interview? It was already pre agreed that we're. I was like, I understand, but like, why wouldn't Coach K like, coach, we want to hear from Coach K. And he asked me the same question. I would ask LeBron James, what's the win? What was the win in what you just said and does this is the squeeze worth the juice? What was the win? What was the win in LeBron James going on McAfee? Like, if it was to tweak Stephen A. Smith instead of confronting him at the Laker game, he should have pretended like he doesn't exist at the Laker game. Right. Giving credence. And I, I've said this back when I was doing halftime of games, when Bayheim would call me out when any other coach, when the Big Ten commissioner would call me out long time ago, like by giving Credence to the things I say. And also instead of and here's what I will credit LeBron that he didn't assassinate Stephen A's character, he just assassinated his takes. Right? Did he fib about it? Sure. Right. He he can't take constructive criticism of Bronny James because all I've offered up is constructive criticism of Ronnie James, and he tweeted at me, so he clearly can't take it. But the easiest thing, if you want somebody to go away and you're somebody super powerful, pretend like they don't exist. And instead, LeBron fed the beast. Fed the beast. All right, coming up next in the Herd, I'm Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin. Did you see how Texas Tech won or how Arkansas lost? Coach Cal's team was up 6 with a minute 10. Did he admit fault in their collapse? We'll find out next in the herd. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen Live or on demand, whenever you'd like with amex, there's.
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We'll get to coach Cal and the the breakdowns of Arkansas basketball last night. Plus you got a Herdline news including we'll get to Herdline news and and also a stunning firing in the NBA just a very like a month before the playoffs begin. And you'll hear from that with Herdline news upcoming. But let's talk some major league baseball good friend of mine who's who's I think if not for the steroid era would be in the hall of Fame. He's Matt Holliday. He's a seven time all star, four time Silver Slugger. Of course his son Jackson was the number one overall pick of the Baltimore Orioles two years ago. Plays for the Orioles all last year and into this year. Obviously going to get a full season with the O's. He joins us now in the hur heard on Fox Sports Radio yesterday. Opening day man they're treating you like super old man. Now you're in the back of some car Doing the whole prom, prom king wave. Is that what's happening yesterday?
Dan
Well, Unfortunately, I am 45 and I think that's the, unfortunately, the, the circle of baseball life is that eventually you're the guy that sits in the back of a car and smiles and waves and then go about your day. So, yeah, I mean, I miss the, the thrill of playing an opening day, but it was enjoyable to be back in, in St. Louis and, and get a chance to, to be around opening day at least. And, and so, yeah.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
Dan
Yep. I'm old, so that's how it works.
Doug Gottlieb
Did you, you did you feel. Did. I mean, like, look, it's still cool, right? You got there, it's Bush Stadium, it's opening day, it's Americana. But when, when you're going around, you're like, I'm that guy now, right?
Dan
I'm that unfortunately it's coming for us all. So, you know, it's, you know, part of you looks out there on the field and goes, you know, I think I could, I could still. I could still. I can still remember we had.
Doug Gottlieb
Hold on. We had this conversation last year at your house. We did. Me, you, Ethan Jackson. And we're like, could you still do it? And you're like, yeah, as a dh. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I could still do it. Right. So do you still. Do you still feel that way? That was last year. No, that was last year.
Dan
Well, I know, I'm saying like, you know, a year later here, my hips. Hips not in a good spot.
Doug Gottlieb
That's right.
Dan
You know, the, the Velo is not coming down anytime soon. So I would say I'm. I think it's. I think it's over. I think the, the idea that I could somehow be a productive hitter in the major leagues is probably figure my imagination at this point.
Doug Gottlieb
That's. That. That's fair enough. What about the Cardinals? You know, a couple years ago it was bottom of the barrel. Obviously it's been a rebuild. What are your expectations for the Cards this year?
Dan
Well, I think that there is no expectations from anyone really. I mean, I think everyone has written them off as probably non contending and probably the bottom of the basement of the NL Central with some of the younger teams and talented kind of trajectory of the Reds and the brewers and even the Pirates. So I honestly think that they still have a team that could surprise some people and win maybe a few more games than predicted. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and predict them to make the playoffs, but. And looking at a roster like that, there is always a chance that young players take a dramatic step forward, or at least a substantial step forward that would. That would allow them to win more than people are projecting. So I don't know that that's. I don't know that I would predict that or that I would even, you know, sort of guess that. But I do think they're going to. I think they'll be better than people think. I think that they will win more games than projected. I still think Sonny Gray and Eric Fetty and Miles Michaelis are a decent, you know, they present a chance to have good starts. They have one of the best closers in the league, which is always nice to have. If you have a lead in the eighth inning, you feel like you're going to win that game. So I think that that's, that's a, that's an advantage. You know, if Nolan Arenado can, you know, perform like he's capable, I think at some point they would probably try to trade him. But I think if he was a 30 homer, 100 RBI player that he's been in the past in the middle of their lineup, that would obviously help. But it's going to be an interesting season because they will try to have to figure out if at some point. Do you trade Aaron Otto, do you trade Helsley, do you trade Eric Fetty? Or do you, you know, sort of use them moving forward as people to build around? So it's a, it's a fascinating year for the Cardinals, in my opinion.
Doug Gottlieb
Matt Holliday joining us, former Cardinal, former Yankee, former former a. Can't forget the. The six months with the ace and of course, former Rocky. Joining us in the herd on. On Fox Sports Radio, I'm Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin. You know, one of the other things that you and I have talked about is, you know, the rule changed in baseball. It changed how the sport is played. Right. Brought speed back to the game, brought athleticism back to the field. You know, I've talked to, you know, the guys with the brewers, and everyone the brewers throw out there in the field has been a shortstop at some point in their lives. Right. Defense is so much more important now than it's ever been. Are the Cardinals one of those teams kind of like the. Where the Yankees had been, where they were constructed for a different era where you could have bigger, older home run hitters, and yet all of a sudden the sport changed and they got kind of caught up in. In the wash?
Dan
Yeah. I would probably point to the fact that they have not Developed players in their own system that have been able to play at the all star caliber level. The Latin American pip has not been good in the past few years. So I would say it's probably more of them revamping their minor league system and their development that I think that they would point to and that I would point to. I don't necessarily think it was like they, they got stuck with, with a certain type of team that passed them by. I think it's more of just you have to produce if you're not going to. And even the teams like the Dodgers that are buying free agents, you've got to produce the core of your team from your own organization. You have to get the first and second and third round picks. You have to get them right more often than not. You have to, you have to score some of your own superstars so that you can supplement around them to have sustainable success, in my opinion. So I think that that's something that they haven't been able to do recently. And eventually it kind of caught up to them where they were, they were, they were sort of just filling, filling holes and trying to maintain competitiveness as opposed to putting a team together that could actually win the World Series. And I think it got to the point where they said, you know what, the system is broken and we've got to revamp from the bottom all the way to the top. And so I think that's the process they're in right now. And I think that moving forward, that's, that's something they've got to get back to.
Doug Gottlieb
What about the Dodgers? You know, an amazing lineup, an amazing team that gets to another World Series, finally wins a World Series outside of obviously the COVID World Series. And then what do they do? They go out and spend more. What's the flaw to the Dodgers?
Dan
Well, the flaw is that it's baseball and that anything can happen. You could have injuries, you could have, you know, performance drop offs. It's, it's a game where anything can happen. The best team doesn't always win in the playoffs because as you know, October is, is crazy. And if you get in and a team gets hot and they run into the wrong team, anything could happen. And so I think that that's still a variable and in all sports, but I think particularly in baseball, that that kind of thing could happen. But I think, you know, from just the pure perception of their roster, it's, it's hard to pick much apart. I mean, they're, they're, they have a, they have aircraft Carriers in their lineup that can carry the team and have starting pitching with high end stuff and they have a bullpen that if the starter comes out in the fifth inning or fourth inning, they can still go to three or four of other teams closers and you know, recent history that have dominant stuff. So they can beat you in a lot of different ways. So I don't really see any major hole in their team. But I do think that, like I said, not always does the most talented or the best team win.
Doug Gottlieb
We talked a little bit about efficiencies. You know, last night I watched Alabama hit what, 25 of 51, 3. So obviously that's like crazy, crazy numbers. But you know, you and I watch the NBA, you watch, you know, TNT and talking about how, you know, they don't like, they don't like how all these threes that are taking whatever and my pushback is like, we really want to go back to the age of inefficiency, you know, for baseball, right? We know what became. It used to be either, what, what was it a couple years ago, 66% of the time the ball never touched anybody other than the pitcher, the catcher or the hitters bat, right. Because it was either strikeout, walk or home run. What about now with speed returning to baseball? Because the, because the, you can only throw over there a couple times and the bigger, the bigger bags. What, what are the new rules of efficiency in baseball?
Dan
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean I think that that's, that's probably the one major thing that stands out is the idea that now you're going to have to manufacture runs. Because I think if you stick around and wait to try to hit the homerun, it's boring baseball. It's, it's, it's hard to do. The pitching is at an all time, it's at an all time high. I think the Velo's up again. And so there's going to be a lot of strikeouts. It's going to be tough to score runs. So I do think that having players that can find ways to score runs outside of the home run, which as we all agree is boring, when all it is is a strikeout, a home run or a walk, I mean that's, that's not fun to watch. So I do think that there's a lot of exciting young players. And Shohei stealing 70 bases and Ellie De La Cruz, I think he stole 80 bases and Ronald Acuna and you have these players that offer a dynamic, really exciting. I think it's, I think baseball has a Lot of really, really fun to watch young superstars to build the game around. So it's, it's. I think it's. It's like you said earlier, it's a. It's a more athletic. It's trending more athletic, which is good. I think people like to watch that. So I think that's probably the biggest thing.
Doug Gottlieb
All right, old man, I hope your hip gets better. You got to get back on that. It's pickleball season, and I know it's, you know, like out there. I know it's always pickleball season, but especially as it warms up, outdoor pickleball season has returned. I wish you the best of luck on the circuit. And you look good as the old. The old man in the back of the car yesterday.
Dan
Yes, I believe we get a year older every day. Every year at the same. The same day. So it's.
Doug Gottlieb
Difference is. Difference is we also get better looking every day. That's the other part that does happen. Hi to everybody at the Ranch. Thanks. Thanks for joining me. All right, that's my guy, Matt Holiday joining us, fresh off of being the smile and wave guy in the back of the. The old. I think it was like a Ford Thunderbird or something yesterday with. With the cars. Let's get to Greg Tuohy with the news.
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. Turn on the news.
Doug Gottlieb
This is the Herd line news.
Keith
Well, Duggar, we got a couple of breaking news stories here. One in the NBA. This is very interesting. Just in the last half hour or so, the Grizzlies have announced they have fired head coach Taylor Jenkins. With just a few weeks left in the regular season, the Grizzlies are currently the 5 seed. They're only a game and a half out of the three seed. They struggled of late, losing four or five without Jerome Rant with his hamstring injury. But you're the hoops guy. Why does this happen now, so close to the playoffs?
Doug Gottlieb
What's going on? I don't know.
Keith
Is this player driven?
Doug Gottlieb
I. I don't know. Like legit? No idea. I mean, look, that's why, you know, we can make fun of all these guys that are. That are insiders. By the way, shout out to Brian Windhorst. Brian Winhurst was about LeBron kind of talking ish on him, whatever. And he said, lebron owes me nothing. I owe him a lot. I mean, that's just take the high road, which is all LeBron had to do. It's just weird. Yeah, but now we're like, we're going to all tune in to hear window. Wendy. Wendy. Why? Why? Who is it? Because I think Taylor Jenkins is a really, really good coach. That stuns me.
Keith
Yeah, I don't, I don't get it. I mean, it's just especially as they're. They're not, it's not like they're like, it's not like they were like, you know, middle tier the west and then they've just literally felt falling apart the last few weeks like they're right there. I mean, there's not that much separates these teams in the West.
Doug Gottlieb
It would mean, look, either he doesn't get along with his boss in the GM or with the owner or, you know, his star players not listening to him anymore.
Dan
Yeah.
Keith
And that's, that's usually it, isn't it?
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
Keith
This just came down as well. The Colorado board of Regents have Approved a new five year, $54 million deal for head coach Deion Sanders that will make him one of the highest paid coaches of the in the country, taking him through the 2029 season. He will make roughly 10 million, just over $10 million per year. We all kind of assume Dion was out the door when his sons were done playing and his name was obviously floated around with the Cowboys job. But do we think he could actually stay at Colorado long term?
Doug Gottlieb
I think he's going to stay at Colorado long term.
Keith
I mean, does it. Because also like we heard about the Florida State thing and there were other jobs more high profile than Colorado.
Doug Gottlieb
Look, I think he, I mean, again, if you want to keep him, you have to pay him. I think the thing. And he's earned it, right? He's earned it based upon what they've done attendance wise and how much money they make. The only thing that I don't want to hear from Dion is I don't want to hear any complaints about not having enough money.
Keith
Yeah, I can't get these kids because I can't afford. We can't afford them.
Doug Gottlieb
Right. Because it all now can come from the same pot. Right. Just. Just so people are aware, you can the collective because you have the rev share. Right. And schools at the power four level, they have a rev share. It's like I think $22 million basically split between two and a half sports. Right. And so college football will have a gigantic pool and then the big time programs have even more in a collective for some sweetener. But what you can't hear from Dion is I do not want to hear anything about like, and we just don't have enough money because, hey, Big boy, you don't have to take $10 million. Like five is enough, six is enough, seven is enough. If you put three of that into the collective buy up, you know, then we have no more complaints. So he has earned all of that money. Earned it. He flipped that program. It is more than competitive. Do I think they could be. I guess we'll find out, right? It was, you know, you show up and you sit down like, look, this is the challenge for so many coaches when they go to a new job or whatever. It's like, you know what happens? What happens when, you know, if you have a son. We've seen this with Greg McDermott, right. His best run at Creighton was when he had Doug McDermott.
Keith
Right.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. But they've continued on this. The success. Yep. Hasn't fallen off. Tucker Debris is going to play for his dad at Indiana. He didn't play most of this year because he had a shoulder injury. You know, what does Indiana look like when. When he's done so again, I don't know what they look like, but they clearly had to match whether it was a real or fake offers out there in the NFL and that's what they've done. So. And he's. They fill up those stands, the tenants, they're competitive in the Big 12. All great. But what you can't do if you take top dollar, you can't complain about if there's not enough dollars for something else on campus.
Keith
Yeah, their recruiting will be fascinating to see now that Shador is gone. That's the news, Duggar.
Doug Gottlieb
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. Wait to hear what John Calipari said about his team's collapse late last night. That's next in the Herd.
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Keith
Burning the clock.
Doug Gottlieb
Yes. What do you. When I say burning the clock with a lead, what. What do you think that means?
Keith
I mean, passing the ball around.
Doug Gottlieb
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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 2: LeBron James
Host: Doug Gottlieb (filling in for Colin Cowherd)
Release Date: March 28, 2025
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Duration: Approximately 45 minutes of content
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosted by Doug Gottlieb, listeners are welcomed to a dynamic discussion focusing on one of the most heated topics in sports: the ongoing feud between LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith. The episode delves deep into the implications of LeBron's public critiques, the broader landscape of college basketball, and various other sports news stories.
a. Sweet 16 Insights
Doug Gottlieb opens the discussion by highlighting the intense competition in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament. He praises the performances of powerhouse teams such as Alabama, Florida, Texas Tech, and Duke, noting their significant impacts on the tournament's progression.
b. NCAA Inequality and SEC Dominance
Gottlieb transitions to a critical analysis of the current state of college basketball, emphasizing the stark financial disparities between programs. He draws a parallel between the Southeastern Conference's (SEC) substantial investments in coaches, facilities, and player acquisitions to the notorious steroid era in Major League Baseball.
“You have teams that have literally 30x the money of others, 40x the money of others competing in NCAA tournament games.” [04:15]
He argues that the SEC's financial prowess has created an uneven playing field, akin to allowing Barry Bonds to use steroids to prolong his career and enhance performance. This financial muscle has marginalized traditional basketball schools like Syracuse, Louisville, and North Carolina, leaving them struggling to compete against well-funded programs.
c. Coaching Strategies and Recruitment
Gottlieb commends the SEC for hiring respected coaches and investing heavily in their basketball programs, which has paid dividends in tournament success. He contrasts this with the decline of historically strong programs that failed to keep up with the financial arms race, leading to their current struggles.
“You give the SEC the best coaches, the best facilities, and then you spend that money on players. It’s Barry Bonds on steroids.” [06:50]
He further discusses Michigan's successful revamp under Coach Dusty May, attributing their rise to a combination of excellent coaching, strategic player acquisitions, and top-notch facilities.
a. The Feud Unveiled
The core of the episode centers around the escalating tensions between LeBron James and Stephen A. Smith. Gottlieb criticizes LeBron for publicly attacking Stephen A., questioning the underlying motives and the actual benefits derived from such confrontations.
“I don't understand why LeBron did this. What exactly was accomplished?” [12:45]
b. Impact on Stephen A. Smith
Gottlieb suggests that LeBron's actions have inadvertently bolstered Stephen A.'s notoriety, providing him with more publicity and credibility. He points out that instead of diminishing Stephen A., LeBron's criticisms have amplified his presence in the media.
“What was the win in it for LeBron? Pointing out other people's flaws just gives credence or amplification.” [14:00]
c. Colin Cowherd's Perspective
Co-host Colin Cowherd interjects to defend Stephen A., labeling LeBron's behavior as bullying and expressing disappointment in LeBron's approach.
“LeBron, he's too big to be that type of bully. To bully Stephen A. and to bully Brian Windhorst... I've always liked LeBron, but him being a bully turned me off.” [15:43]
Colin further criticizes Stephen A.'s reactions, portraying him as someone who lacks the resilience to handle constructive criticism.
d. Gottlieb’s Critique of LeBron’s Strategy
Gottlieb challenges the effectiveness of LeBron’s public disagreements, arguing that as one of the greatest players in NBA history, LeBron has little to gain from such disputes.
“LeBron James. He's not going to. There's no fight you're going to win with people who believe that Michael Jordan was the better all-time player.” [17:00]
He emphasizes that LeBron's status and achievements render these conflicts largely superficial, benefiting neither party significantly.
a. Major League Baseball – Matt Holliday's Reflections
Transitioning to baseball, Gottlieb welcomes former player Matt Holliday to discuss his transition from active play to retirement. Holliday reflects on the changes in his role and the emotional aspects of stepping away from professional sports.
“I miss the thrill of playing Opening Day, but it was enjoyable to be back in St. Louis and get a chance to be around Opening Day at least.” [25:08]
b. NBA Coaching Changes – Grizzlies Dismiss Taylor Jenkins
Breaking into NBA news, Keith reports the surprising firing of Grizzlies head coach Taylor Jenkins, despite the team being just a game and a half away from the playoffs' three-seed. Gottlieb expresses confusion over the decision, questioning whether it stems from internal conflicts or player dissatisfaction.
“Taylor Jenkins is a really, really good coach. That stuns me.” [37:05]
c. College Football – Deion Sanders’ New Contract
The discussion shifts to college football, where Deion Sanders has secured a lucrative five-year, $54 million contract with Colorado, making him one of the highest-paid coaches. Keith and Gottlieb debate Sanders' long-term commitment, considering his past statements and the financial implications for the program.
“He has earned it based upon what they've done attendance-wise and how much money they make.” [38:48]
Gottlieb cautions Sanders against complaining about financial constraints, emphasizing the necessity of managing resources responsibly when commanding such a high salary.
As the episode nears its end, Gottlieb recaps the main discussions, highlighting the complexities of LeBron James' public persona, the financial dynamics in college basketball, and recent significant movements in other sports leagues. He invites listeners to tune in to future episodes for more in-depth analysis and commentary.
“What was the win in it for LeBron? There's no fight you're going to win with people.” [14:29]
Gottlieb signs off by previewing upcoming segments, including further analysis of Arkansas basketball's recent performance and a major firing in the NBA just before the playoffs.
Doug Gottlieb on SEC Funding Disparities:
“You have teams that have literally 30x the money of others, 40x the money of others competing in NCAA tournament games.”
[04:15]
Gottlieb Comparing SEC to Steroid Era:
“It's Barry Bonds on steroids.”
[06:50]
Critique of LeBron’s Public Disputes:
“What was the win in it for LeBron? Pointing out other people's flaws just gives credence or amplification.”
[14:00]
Colin Cowherd on LeBron’s Bullying:
“LeBron, he's too big to be that type of bully. To bully Stephen A. and to bully Brian Windhorst... I've always liked LeBron, but him being a bully turned me off.”
[15:43]
Gottlieb on LeBron vs Michael Jordan Debate:
“He's not going to. There's no fight you're going to win with people who believe that Michael Jordan was the better all-time player.”
[17:00]
Gottlieb on Matt Holliday’s Retirement:
“I miss the thrill of playing Opening Day, but it was enjoyable to be back in St. Louis and get a chance to be around Opening Day at least.”
[25:08]
Gottlieb on Taylor Jenkins Firing:
“Taylor Jenkins is a really, really good coach. That stuns me.”
[37:05]
Gottlieb on Deion Sanders' Contract:
“He has earned it based upon what they've done attendance-wise and how much money they make.”
[38:48]
This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a comprehensive analysis of the current sports landscape, with a particular focus on the intricate dynamics of college basketball and the ripple effects of star athletes like LeBron James in media and public discourse. Through insightful commentary and critical perspectives, Doug Gottlieb provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the multifaceted world of sports.