Hour 2 – Mike Renner joins The Herd

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Hour 2 – Mike Renner Joins The Herd
Release Date: January 31, 2025

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Introduction

In the second hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," host Colin Cowherd welcomes Mike Renner, a seasoned NFL and draft analyst from CBS Sports, to discuss a range of hot topics in the sports world. Joining Colin are regular contributors LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox. The episode delves deep into player performances, draft prospects, and Super Bowl predictions, all while maintaining the show's signature blend of insightful analysis and engaging banter.

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Cam Newton: MVP vs. Super Bowl Champion

One of the episode's focal points is Cam Newton's controversial stance on valuing MVP awards over Super Bowl victories. The discussion begins with LeVar Arrington introducing the topic:

LeVar Arrington [11:24]: "Cam Newton has some thoughts on the debate between MVP and Super Bowl. Obviously an MVP winner, obviously not a Super Bowl winner did appear in one, and this was his take on first take."

Brady Quinn shares his agreement with Newton's perspective, emphasizing the importance of individual accountability and team success:

Brady Quinn [12:28]: "I would rather have a Super Bowl. I would rather have a chance. I would have. Rather have a national title. I'd rather have a Super Bowl."

Jonas Knox offers a counterpoint, reflecting on the broader team dynamics that outweigh individual accolades:

Jonas Knox [16:48]: "I think for most players, most people, you would take the championship in part because it's not such an individual thing. You get to share that moment, that history."

The conversation highlights the perennial debate in sports: the value of personal accolades versus team achievements. While Newton champions the MVP for its recognition of individual excellence, Quinn and Knox argue that championships embody collective success and lasting legacy.

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Saquon Barkley’s Super Bowl Prospects

The discussion shifts to Saquon Barkley's evolving role and his potential impact in the upcoming Super Bowl. Mike Renner provides insights into Barkley's performance trajectory:

Mike Renner [48:12]: "Saquon Barkley is getting ready to play in the Super Bowl for the first time in his career."

LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinn engage in a playful banter about Barkley's future performance, questioning whether he can exceed expectations:

Brady Quinn [49:07]: "Do you want to be in the room if Joe Shanahan is watching the Super Bowl?"

LeVar Arrington [50:02]: "Do you think he's going to?"

Mike Renner assesses the challenges Barkley faces, noting the reliance on his performance for the team's success:

Mike Renner [49:30]: "Do you see Saquon going for over 100 rushing yards or not? I have a hard time seeing that."

The segment underscores the pressure on Barkley to perform exceptionally in high-stakes games, emphasizing his role as a pivotal player for his team.

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Bryce Young’s Comeback and Future

Bryce Young's resurgence after a rocky season is another key topic. Mike Renner highlights Young's impressive finish to the previous season:

Mike Renner [50:35]: "Bryce Young sort of finding his footing towards the end of last season."

LeVar Arrington reflects humorously on the circumstances that allowed Young to shine:

LeVar Arrington [51:15]: "If Andy Dalton doesn't get in that car accident, Bryce Young maybe never gets on the field again for Carolina."

Brady Quinn praises Young's maturity and dedication:

Brady Quinn [51:40]: "Great job, Jonas."

The discussion celebrates Young's ability to overcome setbacks and secure his position as a promising quarterback, highlighting his remarkable performance metrics:

Mike Renner [51:06]: "Bryce Young had a three-game stretch with seven touchdowns, no interceptions, and a passer rating over 111."

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NFL Draft Insights with Mike Renner

Mike Renner joins the conversation to provide an in-depth analysis of the current NFL Draft class, focusing on quarterback prospects and positional strengths.

Quarterback Class Evaluation

Renner critiques the depth of this year's quarterback class compared to previous years:

Ryan Music [31:07]: "If you just compare it to last year, there's at least four guys that I would put above anyone in this class."

He highlights Jackson Dart as the standout quarterback prospect:

Ryan Music [33:06]: "He's the most intriguing option if I'm taking a swing somewhere on day two in this quarterback class."

Renner discusses the impact of collegiate performances on draft stock, particularly emphasizing the significance of the Senior Bowl for players like Dart:

Ryan Music [35:06]: "For guys who need something, need a box to tick that they haven't necessarily ticked on their collegiate film already."

Positional Strengths: Tight Ends and Defensive Lines

Renner commends the tight end and defensive line classes, suggesting a strong presence in the draft:

Ryan Music [31:39]: "There are probably going to be a handful of guys go in the first round on tight ends and the defensive line."

Red Flags and Player Development

The conversation touches on player transfers and their implications for draft evaluations:

Ryan Music [36:58]: "Guys who are bouncing in the wind, taking whoever is the highest bidder for three straight years. Those are guys you don't necessarily want on your football team."

Renner emphasizes the benefits of stability and development at high-competition levels for draft prospects:

Ryan Music [38:15]: "You're actually getting better evals on these guys because of NIL and transfer portal being a thing."

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Super Bowl Predictions and Rooting Interests

LeVar Arrington teases upcoming discussions about unique rooting interests in the Super Bowl, adding an element of anticipation for listeners:

LeVar Arrington [29:52]: "Somebody's got a specific rooting interest in this Super Bowl that may be different from the past."

The hosts engage in light-hearted speculation about Joe Shanahan's potential reactions and superstitions tied to player performances, particularly focusing on Saquon Barkley.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• LeVar Arrington [11:24]: "Cam Newton has some thoughts on the debate between MVP and Super Bowl."

• Brady Quinn [12:28]: "I would rather have a Super Bowl. I would rather have a chance."

• Jonas Knox [16:48]: "I think for most players, most people, you would take the championship in part because it's not such an individual thing."

• Mike Renner [31:54]: "It's Cam Ward, it's Shadour Sanders, and it's Jackson Dart."

• LeVar Arrington [38:15]: "These are guys staying longer, really getting to know who they are and getting to develop."

• Mike Renner [51:06]: "Bryce Young had a three-game stretch with seven touchdowns, no interceptions, and a passer rating over 111."

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Conclusion

The second hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" offers a comprehensive exploration of pivotal topics in the NFL, from the MVP versus Super Bowl debate exemplified by Cam Newton's stance to detailed analyses of emerging quarterback talent in the current draft class. With Mike Renner's expert insights and the hosts' dynamic interactions, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of player performances, team strategies, and the ever-evolving landscape of professional football. The episode effectively balances serious analysis with engaging conversation, making it a valuable listen for sports enthusiasts seeking depth and entertainment.

Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music. Music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, and Joseph Gordon Lev.

[LeVar Arrington]

I love storytelling and I love you. So I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Katie Couric]

Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next Question. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also gonna have some fun thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlamagne the God. We're gonna take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Brady Quinn]

Now, let's get this party started.

[Jonas Knox]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's the Herd. Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox filling in for Colin here. Hour two of this three hour extravaganza. Getaway day coming up in a couple of days as we get set for the super bowl in New Orleans. We will be there. You can hear us, by the way, Monday through Friday, 6 to 9am Eastern Time, 3:00 to 6:00am Pacific Time. So a little later start time for us today, but we will be back in our standard time slot coming up on Monday, live from New Orleans at Radio Row. And who the hell knows who's going to be walking the streets of New Orleans at that time at that hour.

[Brady Quinn]

So Lee.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, that's.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, probably Lee. Probably our producer.

[Brady Quinn]

Yes, this we do know.

[LeVar Arrington]

He really is homeless, right?

[Brady Quinn]

He may not be with us. He may be walking the streets.

[Jonas Knox]

Lee may not make it back. A lot of wild stuff goes on on Bourbon street, man.

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, you guys. God, I wish you guys could see him. He really. He's going to. How many, what are we, 45 minutes sleep, you said?

[Arturo Castro]

Yeah, if that.

[LeVar Arrington]

Not that. Not quite that much.

[Brady Quinn]

I had about a half hour.

[Arturo Castro]

I don't know how much of that was actual sleep or not.

[Jonas Knox]

Can I just go back to the question? I think Lavar brought it up. You must want to prolong this relationship if you're choosing to rent it out only for a month.

[Brady Quinn]

Talk to him.

[Jonas Knox]

And not just lowering the price and trying to sell it like just so you can cut ties.

[Mike Renner]

If I could sell it today, I.

[LeVar Arrington]

Would, but I'll take the.

[Brady Quinn]

I'll take the month rent. You're lying.

[Jonas Knox]

Damn, you're lying, dude.

[Brady Quinn]

You're lying, Lee. Lying to myself. Like. Yes. Why do you. You, you know, habitual liars do not realize that they are lying, bro.

[Jonas Knox]

Like you have like Stockholm syndrome, man. I'm just saying there's something going on here.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's not that bad.

[Jonas Knox]

Is it not? Hey, Lee, why wearing a crop top today?

[Brady Quinn]

Dang.

[LeVar Arrington]

Jeez.

[Brady Quinn]

It's the new fed. Punky Brewster. A dang.

[Jonas Knox]

Hey, Lee, how's your computer doing?

[LeVar Arrington]

I got a new charger, so. On my third computer now. On my third laptop.

[Jonas Knox]

Why is that, Lee?

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, the other one got a little wet. Lee didn't have a Float.

[Jonas Knox]

How to get wet.

[Brady Quinn]

How to get wet, Lee?

[Mike Renner]

I don't know.

[LeVar Arrington]

Don't know.

[Brady Quinn]

There was nobody in the body of water. You weren't in the body of water. That. That. That computer, that laptop for a Frisbee.

[LeVar Arrington]

By who, by the way? Lee doesn't use air tags. He uses lifeguards to get his belongings back.

[Brady Quinn]

Hey, Lee, who thought that your laptop was a Frisbee?

[Mike Renner]

I don't know.

[Arturo Castro]

I just saw it fly out the window, that's all.

[Brady Quinn]

What window? Whose windows? You're from your window.

[LeVar Arrington]

That is correct.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right.

[Brady Quinn]

All right.

[LeVar Arrington]

So there you go.

[Brady Quinn]

All right.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right. So from. From that. And we will get to the bottom of whatever the hell's going on there with Lee Love.

[Brady Quinn]

And.

[Jonas Knox]

And why?

[LeVar Arrington]

Why? Lee found out an hour before the show he was homeless. Cam Newton, the. The former NFL quarterback is now making the rounds. He's not a huge fan of, you know, Jason Whitlock and some others these days. There's been a lot of back and forth from Cam in the media. If you're at a 7 on 7 tournament and you try and throw down with him, he'll just control you with one arm, put his hands and slap your buddies around while never losing his hat.

[Jonas Knox]

He looked like Jean Claude Van Damme.

[LeVar Arrington]

Did he have any marks on him? Like, any rips in his clothes? Anything?

[Brady Quinn]

Not even a wrinkle.

[Jonas Knox]

I will say it before. He is an Adonis. Like, he is one of the most physically imposing people you have ever seen. Like, you. You got to see when. When defenders walk on the field pregame and they see how big Cam was. Like, I remember playing against him in 2012, and I was just like.

[Brady Quinn]

I was like, bruh, y'all are the same.

[Jonas Knox]

Someone's gotta try to tackle him in.

[Brady Quinn]

Our second, the same size. What are you knowing about?

[Jonas Knox]

No, no, that's. Buddy, I swear to God, when I stood there and you, like, you look up like, he. I. I don't know what he is. He's listed as if he's six, five.

[Brady Quinn]

Six in your mind.

[Jonas Knox]

No, he is like, six foot seven. He's. He's closer to six, seven then I swear he is six, five. I just. And he can.

[Brady Quinn]

He could heal. He ain't just run. Yeah, he was.

[Jonas Knox]

He was a bad dude.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, he's a lot.

[Brady Quinn]

He's good in media. I mean, he's. He's a lightning rod in media. I mean, people are paying attention to him.

[LeVar Arrington]

He's basically Brady Quinn, is what you're saying. Lavar.

[Brady Quinn]

The black version.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

And a little bit more athletic, you know what I mean?

[LeVar Arrington]

Hey, Lee, can we run with that on Twitter? Brady Quinn is the white Cam Newton or Cam Newton is the black Brady Quinn. If we could just do that.

[Brady Quinn]

I think that very good looking dude.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, keep going.

[Brady Quinn]

Over six foot four.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'm with you. Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, definitely not music.

[LeVar Arrington]

You could attest to this too, correct?

[Mike Renner]

Well, not only that, I just want to know who has the better hat collection because, Brady, I hear you get pretty close to some of these things we've seen Cam Newton wearing.

[Brady Quinn]

Hats are crazy.

[Jonas Knox]

Where have you actually, actually, if we're really going to call out someone for their hats on this show, it's.

[Brady Quinn]

A.

[Jonas Knox]

You showed up with a fire hat at a funeral.

[Brady Quinn]

I did. It was a black hat.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, that's right.

[Jonas Knox]

I can't bring this up because it's a sad story.

[LeVar Arrington]

No, no, no, listen. No, that, that is correct. And, and he is. And he had perfect vision. He was able to see like, you know, any, any hammock.

[Brady Quinn]

That's right.

[Jonas Knox]

There was three takeaways from that funeral.

[Brady Quinn]

There was a song that popped out of beyond at the grave site. I, I didn't want to see it, but some things you just seen, you.

[Jonas Knox]

Know, it was Lavar's hat. I was like, oh, that's a statement hat for a funeral. It was the, it was, it was your, your in laws, your family. And that car that I, I believe.

[Brady Quinn]

It had hydraulics, man, it was like.

[LeVar Arrington]

Half the block with, with, with, with Tyrone the chauffeur, he had Mondevu and.

[Brady Quinn]

And Antoine Del Bailey in the back. And that's six, ten. They both.

[Jonas Knox]

Dude, I've never seen someone pull up to a funeral.

[LeVar Arrington]

I was like, look, it look like, look like Cam Newton sitting on someone's shoulders.

[Brady Quinn]

Hey, man, all I know is the Knox brothers, y'all boys, y'all got this thing for whips.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

I have no idea what it's all about, but y'all, y'all, and y'all vehicles. I don't get it.

[Jonas Knox]

But then the last thing was, is the, the attire was risque for some of you there, bro.

[LeVar Arrington]

Uncle Lavar approved.

[Jonas Knox]

Like, damn.

[Brady Quinn]

Like, I'm sitting there saying my goodbyes, and while I'm looking to say my goodbyes. So was. I see a red. I see a red thong. I mean, dang, I didn't know. I, I couldn't look at the. The final flight of burial was like.

[LeVar Arrington]

Who brought the slingshot?

[Jonas Knox]

I. I looked at Lavar like, did you just see that? He just gave me that, like, very sly nod of like, yes, I did.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. So just peel back the curtain just a bit. The curtain, not the thong. We just peel it back just a bit. Yeah, we all. I think it's the only time that this show has ever all gotten together outside the show was at a funeral, not. Not to be named who was. Who was. Who was being lowered down. But somebody at the funeral who was a. A family member decided to go, no belt and red thong. When they bent over to say their goodbyes. And Lavar was the first one to spot it. Like a drone from outer space.

[Katie Couric]

Var.

[LeVar Arrington]

Like a going from outer space.

[Brady Quinn]

You are stupid. I am not a Hawkeye like that. I was looking at the. We're looking. I was like, wow, that's a beautiful casket. Whoa. What is that? Like, why is that there?

[Colin Cowherd]

Lavar?

[Brady Quinn]

Just one of these things don't belong here, everybody.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's like a somber moment. People are laying flowers on. On the cast.

[Jonas Knox]

It was that moment.

[LeVar Arrington]

You just hear Lavar in the background go, thong cheese. Levar.

[Jonas Knox]

You saw the red rose, and it. It matched the red thong. That was what stood out.

[Brady Quinn]

It was very rose reddish. And I don't know why I remember that, but I do, you know?

[LeVar Arrington]

So from that over to Cam Newton.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

Cam Newton has some thoughts on the debate between MVP and Super Bowl. Obviously an MVP winner. Obviously not a Super bowl winner did appear in one, and this was his take on first take. Yesterday I asked you, Cam, if you.

[Brady Quinn]

Could give back that league MVP for a Super bowl championship, would you do it? Nope.

[Arturo Castro]

Oh, really?

[LeVar Arrington]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Brady Quinn]

What's more important, impact or championships? If we're being honest, the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say everybody has a responsibility to do. And you could say as an MVP award winner or All American, you've held yourself or you've held your end of the bargain down. And that's what it really comes down to for me. I know that's not the popular pick. I'm trying to be popularized, but my take is I'm taking individual success because I did my job.

[LeVar Arrington]

So there's Cam Newton discussing this.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't disagree with him. I mean, you guys could take it first. I don't disagree with, like, all of it. So I would rather have a Super Bowl. I would rather have a chance. I would have. Rather have a national title. I'd rather have a Super Bowl. But he's. I mean, what. What is inaccurate about what he's saying? If you've held yourself personally to the highest standard that you can. And you worked your. Now, if it came at the expense of others, if you getting the award that you got, Most Valuable Player award, which. How would you be the most valuable player if you're costing your teammates, if you're costing the team games? So to me, I would. I can understand the reasoning of saying that I'd rather have the MVP title or whatever it may be, based off of what I've held myself accountable to, to what my level of play is going to be. I mean, I don't have a problem with that.

[Jonas Knox]

Let me just put it this way. I think when he answered the question, he answered it, but then he kind of pivoted to, like a different conversation because. Because what you're talking about are like two kind of separate things to me. If you asked me and granted, like, I. I guess the only thing I can say is, you know, I don't win the Heisman, I won the Maxwell, right? So that's a Player of the Year award. Would I have traded that for a national championship? There is no doubt in my mind. And I think had I had a successful enough career to ever win MVP or even to be a part of a team, won a Super bowl, to me, there's no hesitation. You take the championship, take the Super Bowl. And I think it's in part because, you know, for me personally, because, look, it's all about perspective. It's all about how, like, he feels like he won the MVP now he's been to a Super bowl, he lost it. And so I would. I would think from his perspective, there's not too many other people that could kind of understand what he's saying and how he's saying it and why he wouldn't trade that. But I think for most players, most people, you would take the championship in part because it's not such an individual thing. You get to share that moment, that history. You know, it's one more than forever, right? You hear that phrase all the time because you're going to forever be remembered in history together as a part of that team that won a championship. And that, to me, is the ultimate thing about football. Like, what I love about football is even as much importance as the quarterback position has. And you might say, hey, it's the most important position in all of sports. That may be the case, but there's still a defense. There's still all these other variables and pieces and people around you that it takes in order for you to be able to win. It's the ultimate team sport. Nothing Else is even close in my mind. So because of that, I think the power of winning a championship and all the people that it impacts your teammates, that coaches, everything else to make it come together, make it work, is that much more powerful than just winning that mvp. Because there's no one else that can share it with you. Like, yeah, you can have guys that say, man, they. You guys helped me win this player of the year. You helped me win this MVP award. That's great. But it's not impacting them the same. They're not going to a Super bowl with their family one day when they have kids and say, yes, son, I remember when we came here and we won. Like, that's where this ring comes from. They're not sharing in that. Like, those guys who were on Camp's team that year have a ring that they're showing and saying, yeah, remember when Cam won that mvp? Like, here's my MVP ring from Cam. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I think that the difference is, and this is where I think there's a difference in how people talk about leadership. Leadership. Some people will just say it's doing the right thing, right? Saying doing the right thing. But there's an element of accountability, too. It's being the type of person that's going to be able to bring people along with you in that success and hold them accountable for doing their job, too. Like, doing your job is just not enough. I know it's a phrase that people throw around a lot, but I think the best teams have players who force guys to come along with them. And in that, there's kind of shared success in those championships. But if you're doing your job to the best of your ability and you're doing it so high that you win mvp, great. But ultimately, like, I don't think there's many players or many guys, let's just put it this way, who have won MVP that wouldn't trade that for a Super bowl or for another Super Bowl. They had one.

[Brady Quinn]

One.

[Jonas Knox]

I'll just put it that way. That's a very unique take. And I think some people probably look back at that, at that play in the. The super bowl when there was the Fumble and he kind of didn't really go for it. And they're like, well, yeah, kind of makes sense.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know. I don't get that deep with it in terms of him not going for the. The Fumble. I mean, I didn't like that he didn't go for it, but that man did what I felt was you and like, humanly possible to. To win for that team, especially the things he accomplished that year. I just. I just look at it again. If I am going to be the best teammate, I've got to get myself up in the morning. That starts with me. I have to get myself out of the bed. I got to get myself to. To the facility. That starts with me. I have to put in the work and the time to study the plays and know the playbook and know what I need to do that. That starts and ends with me. The only way we can be great together and win is if all the individuals on the team, knowing that they're individuals, bring the best them. You got to bring the best you. You got to be the best you that you can possibly be. And I. If you're going to be measured and judged in a way where they say, all right, you were the best of. The best of being measured to the standard of what is the best that that comes to the table in terms of becoming an mvp. I just. I. Again, I don't think that there should be an either or for one. I know it was an either or question. I don't think that you should have to. To give away the idea or the understanding that being the best you that you can be and being recognized for that. I feel like that's ultimately going to lead to all those things you just explained. Like, for me, I don't. Like, we never won a national title in college. I'm super close with my teammates. We're super tight. I made it into the pro. I mean, into the College hall of Fame. And even when I went to the Pro Bowls and. And in the league, like. Like, we're all going, like, let's go, linebackers. We're going. Whatever. Whatever it may be, we're going. I know for certain that it's my effort and my accountability to my teammates that's going to get me up every morning, that's going to have me running that wind sprint as hard as I possibly can. It's not to get the personal award. It's to be the best teammate that I can possibly be because I want us to win. If that leads to me becoming a Pro Bowler, if it leads to me being a defensive player of the year or anything like that, where I get an award that recognizes my effort, then I. I'm not one again, I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and say, I wanna. I would want the championship. But at the end of the day, if. If I got A personal award because of my effort. My effort being. Being seen and being. Being, you know, recognized that way, I'm not going to have a problem with it either. So for him to say he'd rather have it, I don't have a problem. I don't have an issue with his. His mind or his reasoning behind wanting it.

[LeVar Arrington]

One of the examples he gave were quarterbacks, you know, like Nick Foles, quarterbacks like Trent Dilfer, you know, and there was another one, Brad Johnson was the other quarterback that he gave. Like, would I rather, you know, trade my career with them? They won Super Bowls but never want an mvp. And I'm curious, would he feel the same, trading a career with Matt Stafford? Because Stafford never won an mvp, but he's got a Super bowl, or Drew Brees never won an mvp.

[Brady Quinn]

Those are better quarterbacks than the ones he gave his example.

[LeVar Arrington]

But. But my point would be, they don't have the mvp. So would you trade your career for theirs? Which is a bigger picture question. But I don't know how anybody. And Cam Newton's fantastic, but I don't know how you could look at the career of Cam Newton and a Drew Brees or Matt Stafford and say he had a better run than they did. So in totality, I just. I think this. And furthermore, if they win that Super bowl in 2016 and they beat Denver, Cam Newton's probably a Hall of Famer, right? Like, I mean, he's got. He's got both with him. It's just kind of an interesting retrospective on it.

[Jonas Knox]

You know what? I wonder. I wonder if his perspective, too, comes from, like, do you remember at Auburn, they won the national championship, he won the Heisman Trophy. And I think he played on a team that. And you can go back and research this, but they didn't have many draft picks. They might have had like one or two, maybe three on that team. And it was one of those championships, one of those runs where you're like, this guy was so dominant that he was Superman. He was the entire team. And so, like, there's elements of, like, he's kind of been that right where he won that Player of the Year award, he won that national championship and displayed all of that. And so, again, maybe that impacts his perspective of when he got in the NFL. And I think. And the hard thing is, when you get in the NFL is even as good as he was in that MVP season, it still wasn't enough to be able to win a championship. And I think if had he phrased it and said, like, here's the tough thing about answering that question is where.

[Brady Quinn]

You'Re going is correct. If you're going.

[Jonas Knox]

We had an amazing team, but the problem is, even at my best, I wasn't lucky enough to be in an organization or a part of a team that we had enough to be able to win it all. And that's the reality for I think a lot of guys. I mean, think about the Green Bay packers teams. There were. Rogers has been the mvp and they make a run, but they get, you know, they get stopped by the San Francisco 49ers. You know, there's. There's those years where it's like, despite the fact of like him playing at the high level, it's still not enough. And I think that's more of the perspective that I thought he was going to lean into when he answered it. That, yeah, I wouldn't trade it because I feel like from my standpoint, like I'd been there as the best player and won a championship and I realized at the next level that it's not enough to be even the best in the league. You still have to have peace and help around you. And so I think again, that's why I go back to what I initially said. It's the ultimate team sport and I think being able to share more in that. And var. You go back to Penn State all the time.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, you were the defensive player of the year, like when you finished there, like you were that guy. But the difference is I would trade.

[Brady Quinn]

It a hundred times out of a hundred times to have had it.

[Jonas Knox]

Exactly. Because you know what they'd be saying heading into 20, 25, like, hey, James Franklin, Penn State, they just got Jim Knowles, they got Christian Hour coming back, the running backs are back. The whole everyone besides the number one overall pick, probably in abduction. Carter is coming back to try to go all in to win one. And it'd be the first time since LaVar Arrington was here and won one. Like, that's what they'd be sent every time you'd go back, they'd remind you of that. And so that's. I don't know. Again, I would have answered it differently, but I also think the way he went about answering it didn't probably fully portray like the difficulty of to just winning games in the NFL and getting the playoffs and winning a Super bowl and. And I think it more talks about too, like what the Chiefs are attempting to do is ridiculous. I mean, really, what Patrick Mahomes and this team and Andy Riv done since he started and taken over is. Is ridiculous to that much sustained success where all you know is that minimum, the AFC Championship Game. If, for what's worth, what, five of six. You said the Super Bowl.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. For what it's worth, if the Carolina Panthers were on the trajectory that the Chiefs are on right now, Cam Newton would have been the catalyst of it. Like you guys said, whether, whether we say Drew Brees or not, you know, in terms of MVP or whatever it may be, Drew Brees was the catalyst of how good that that Saints team was. And you're going to be recognized that way. Even if you won a Super bowl or you did it, if they're on that trajectory, Cam Newton would have been spoken of in, in the same terms that we're speaking of Patrick Mahomes. So either with the, the MVP award or without it, he would have been spoken of in the same exact manner. In the same exact manner. So, I mean, you got the award and you get to stand on the fact that you had the award. But at the end of the day, I, I would, I would rather be able to. To stand there with knowing that I was a key part of it. I'm one of the key reasons why we won it all. But I would rather, I would rather.

[LeVar Arrington]

That Cam Newton's numbers at Auburn that year. Just looking at him again.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, staggering, bro.

[LeVar Arrington]

Like over 200 yards passing, 30 touchdowns, bro.

[Brady Quinn]

He's a, he's a unicorn.

[LeVar Arrington]

Another almost 1500 yards rushing and 20 touchdowns. The guy had 51 touchdowns that year because he also.

[Brady Quinn]

The greatest season was a bruise.

[Jonas Knox]

It was the greatest single season in college football history until Joe Burrow's season for lsu.

[LeVar Arrington]

That's unbelievable.

[Jonas Knox]

That's the reality is he had the greatest single season ever in college football football history. And people can challenge that all they want. When you think of who is playing around him, what they went through in the SEC to win it and how dominant he was, it was the greatest single season ever in college football history until Burrow, who I think unseated him and mostly because of the path that they went on. But even his stats were ungodly. I'm just ridiculous.

[Brady Quinn]

What he did in 2019.

[LeVar Arrington]

It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up next here though, we are going to hear from somebody who was on the scene, future stars in the NFL. We'll get the inside information for you right here on the herd on FSR.

[Jonas Knox]

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[Mike Renner]

There was something sentimental when you, like when, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart?

[Bobby Bones]

Now I don't like the color edition.

[Mike Renner]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Ryan Music]

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[Mike Renner]

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[Katie Couric]

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[LeVar Arrington]

It's the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. So coming up in a little over 15 minutes from now, we are going to tell you about how somebody's got a, a specific rooting interest in this super bowl that may be different from the past. We will get into that for you. It's a superstar involved in the game. That'll be yours here on fsr. We're also going to catch here in just a couple of moments from now with Mike Renner, a golden domer, if I'm not mistaken. Ain't that right? Brady Quinn, big time golden domer there from CBS Sports.

[Jonas Knox]

That's right.

[LeVar Arrington]

NFL and draft analyst.

[Jonas Knox]

That's right.

[LeVar Arrington]

Who was there at the, the recess.

[Jonas Knox]

Great head of light.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'm curious, do they hand out like a free Reese's? Mike, thanks for joining us here. How many bags of Reese's Pieces did you go home with?

[Ryan Music]

I didn't get any this year. I actually, they usually have them in the hotel and I didn't go to the team hotel where they're stank. So none for me, thankfully. I'm trying to.

[Jonas Knox]

So you didn't. You didn't do your job, Mike? Is that what you're saying?

[LeVar Arrington]

Ryan?

[Ryan Music]

Ryan Wilson, Rick Steelman over here at TBS they were the ones interviewing the players. I was, I was getting to sleep in there.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right, so let me ask you this before we get into this specifics, player upon player position group that you've been the most impressed with thus far.

[Ryan Music]

That's a good question. I think the tight ends down there in Mobile, there's probably a handful of guys that I see going on day two out of that class, maybe as much as four that were down there, which is, I mean, for a tight end class down Senior bowl, that's a lot. So I mean, there are other classes that are going to have first rounders. Like, it was a pretty deep defensive line class as well. There's probably going to be a handful of guys go in the round one on that class. But tight ends, like, I think this is a year where you can find a lot of starters on day two of the draft.

[Jonas Knox]

Mike, I want to ask you about the quarterback class. There's been a lot of talk of maybe some teams looking at 2026 and especially coming off of that 2024 class where he had so many guys go in the top, what, 12 or whatever it was. How would you rate this year's class and how would you order these guys?

[Ryan Music]

Yeah, I mean, if you just compare it to last year, there's at least four guys that I would put above anyone in this class. It's probably you talk to other people. There may be as many as six. Like all four, six of the first rounders last year, they have higher grades on than anyone in this class. So from that perspective, it's weak. But then like you look at last year's class and all six kind of look good, right? Like there's no. None of the first rounders really crashed and burned out of the gate. So maybe that's not the worst thing in the world. So it's not super deep to me. It's a three man class in my opinion. It's Cam Ward, it's Shadour Sanders, and it's Jackson Dart. I was talking to Rick Spielman yesterday, former gm, Minnesota Vikings. He said he thinks Jackson Dart's going to be a first rounder after his week in Mobile. Now, I'm not willing to go that far, but I do think he's the most intriguing option if I'm taking a swing somewhere on day two in this quarterback class after those three, everyone else is like, I see just backup or intriguing project that you're going to have to wait three or four years for them to ever come along. So I think it's a real thin class and lacking of top end talent, but it's not as bad as 2022 right where Kenny Pickett, that class where it's only one first rounder. It's not completely bereft of talent, but it's definitely a down year at the position.

[Jonas Knox]

Does Dart remind you of Bo Nicks A little bit. That's kind of what I see watching him. That's why I think he will go end up going in the first round a little.

[Ryan Music]

I mean body type wise, arm wise, the way they throw. I think there's a lot of comparisons to be made there. I thought Bo was just a much quicker processor with Dart. I wasn't a huge fan coming into this year. You watch the Ole Miss offense and it is comical what Lane Kiffin's doing there from like a NFL projectible standpoint. It's not even like half field reads. It's like one man reads. They're just reading like a defender and he's making a decision off of that, which that's fine, but you don't really know what that guy's going to look like in the NFL. So I thought that's why his Senior bowl is so big for him and him looking like the best quarterback down there. That's why you're getting, you know, Rick Spielman saying he wouldn't be surprised if he goes in the first round. But I thought his ball placement was much, much better this year. And I think he's a little bit underrated of an athlete. You know, obviously he's white, so that's always going to be an underrated trait. But geez, he can actually move.

[LeVar Arrington]

So wow.

[Brady Quinn]

Lavar, your thoughts that comment? Well, he's correct. He isn't lying. Mike, let me, let me ask you this. You just sat there and you said improved his draft status this week. I wonder. And knowing that obviously the, the the combines and personal workouts will come come in, you know, latter weeks does this when, when, when you see them, you know, participate. How important is it because you know, guys are opting out of playing in the senior bowls based upon, you know, going deep into the playoffs. Do, do you lose any traction by not participating on the even Shador, he's not participating in the Senior Bowl. He's, he's there but he's not participating. Do you see this playing any type of role in maybe not helping or hurting their, their chances of improving their draft stock going into the draft?

[Ryan Music]

I think it's very important for specific players. So for Dart specifically, obviously the question mark is that offense at Ole Miss. What does he look like in a pro style offense doing what he's going to be doing in the NFL. And so he goes down the Cedar bowl and all of a sudden that's what he's dropped into and has to operate in that. So then looking good in a completely different offense, that's big for his stock. Now with Shadora, you know, he's played four years of football. I don't think that's the question mark with him is how he's going to operate, you know, an NFL caliber offense with what he did at Colorado. So I don't think it's as important for him. But then you have other guys like Gray Zabel who's like a North Dakota State offensive lineman who's switching from tackle to guard or center in the NFL. This is huge for him because he's never played interior offensive line before. He's never played NFL caliber talent before. That guy made himself a ton of money this week with his performance on the football field. But other guys who are like already first rounders, already top 15 picks played in the SEC maybe you talk about some of these Ohio State guys that have played the top competition, it's meaningless for those guys. You know, them going to Senior bowl is really just to get exposure to coaches and GMs and interviews that they wouldn't otherwise get. So it's really case by case basis. But basically for guys who need something, need a box to tick that they haven't necessarily ticked on their collegiate film already.

[LeVar Arrington]

Mike Renner joining us here on the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, CBS Sports NFL and draft analyst. He is at the Senior bowl there in Mobile. We've talked a lot about, obviously, you know, the age of the players coming out of college with, you know, the red shirts and extra years and Covid years and all that stuff, they get older and older. Have you noticed in talking with people there any issues or concerns about the development of some of these players as far as transferring from school to school, being able to opt out and go from place to place. Has there been a disconnect from when they arrive in Alabama getting ready for the draft?

[Ryan Music]

Yeah, I know the guys who are like starting their career at Georgia, then going to USC and then to Penn State stay. Those guys have like a red flag. Those are the ones that scouts are like, okay, we gotta do some homework on this guy. No one likes that guy. But I do think from a just a developmental standpoint, it's good that you get guys from Lower levels of collegiate football. They get to now play in the SEC after two years improving themselves. Like, you get a lot of guys who, you know, you're looking at guys in this class who, you know, started at like a Charlotte and then they transferred up and now they're playing at the best competition. So I think it's helped helpful for a lot of those, it's more helpful than not. But it definitely. It kind of exposes the red flag guys before they get to the NFL. The guys who are just bouncing in the wind, taking whoever is the highest bidder for three straight years. Those are guys you don't necessarily want on your football team. So I think it actually is helping evaluations, guys staying longer, really getting to know who they are and getting to develop at the competition level that they should be developing at before they have to make that big leap to the NFL. So if anything, I do think for an NFL evaluator, these are, you know, you're actually getting better evals on these guys because of nil and transfer portal being a thing.

[Jonas Knox]

Mike, I'm not sure if you know this, we actually have Pete Priscoe on for a weekly on our show. And for folks out there don't know, you get to work with Pete Priscoe. So my first question to you, how would you describe Pete Priscoe?

[Ryan Music]

Stout, portly.

[Jonas Knox]

Not physical. I'm not asking for your scouting impression of his build, personality, character, personality.

[Ryan Music]

I'm going arm length first. I'm going body just scouted me. But then after that, I mean, he's a. So a lot of people think he's angry and he's definitely like a little angry, but he's more just like he is unafraid to say his feelings and okay, a lot of times his feelings trend negatively, but he's not going to back down from a challenge and okay, more than happy to face it. So, yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, so. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to ask you a question and I want you to answer like, Pete Priscoe, who has been the worst player, who had the worst week at the Senior bowl this week that you're like, great. My God, that was awful.

[Ryan Music]

Oh, gosh. Okay. There is a quarterback from Canada named Taylor El Grisma. Hadn't watched him going in, but like, I can't remember what school he was from exactly, but the guy just was not ready for the seasonal competition, unfortunately. So he had himself a pretty tough week. Trying to think the cornerback group down there too. I don't want to name Too many names.

[Brady Quinn]

I heard Shallow had a, a rough time.

[Ryan Music]

Also, I didn't get to see Shiloh at the Senior Bowl. He actually wasn't on the field when I was there or at the Triangle. Excuse me, when he was there. So I didn't get to see him there. But yeah, the wide receiver DB101s are not really set up for corners to look good. And this wasn't a great wide receiver class, so there weren't a lot of corners to write home about.

[Jonas Knox]

Unfortunately, at the Junior bowl, you named one Canadian guy. You can't name one other like mainstream guy that you're like, ah, he was projected high, but he didn't have a great week.

[Ryan Music]

Okay, Dion Walker, the Kentucky defensive tackle who.

[Jonas Knox]

He's huge, right?

[Ryan Music]

Six foot. He's the tallest defensive tackle, like since they started recording that stuff in a database in 2006. Seven and a quarter. He's got a weird build. He couldn't even fill out his pants because I don't think they pants that long. But then also because like, he has like these spindly legs, unfortunately for a guy that size. So he's really top heavy, like this refrigerator on top of stool to stool pegs. And he can't play low enough on the interior. So he had refs that are good on the edge, like going up against tackles. But I just struggle to see what he's going to do at the NFL level. That's a guy that he can move so well. I'd consider. He's still 20 years old. I consider asking him if he wants to play off. That's a build that could play it off. Tackle that's just going to struggle to hold up against double teams in the NFL against like guards and centers.

[LeVar Arrington]

Mike, do you have a, before we let you go, do you have like a sneaky one to look out for somebody that you think based upon what you've watched, could be maybe a second, third, fourth round pick that could be a potential star in the NFL. Somebody that's your favorite.

[Ryan Music]

I love is David Walker from Central Arkansas. He's 6 foot 267 and he's an edge rusher who if you try once, he goes to the bull rush. I didn't see a single person even come close to stopping him this week. I mean, you say 6 foot, 6 foot 267, built like Brandon Graham. I mean, the guy low to the earth, explosive off the line of scrimmage and just plays with a tenacity that he, I mean, like I said, he dumped rush five times. In the one on ones and like every single time the tackle was running backwards. He's just a guy that, that's no one you talk to any off tackle around the NFL, those are the guys they do not want to block. The guys who literally, you cannot get leverage on them if you tried because they're built so low to the earth. So he's the guy that, you know, Central Arkansas, the tape was insane. But it's also low level competition. So seeing him do it against guys who will be in the NFL next year, yeah, I felt pretty good about that.

[Jonas Knox]

He blew up that organ tackle. Right. Was that one of the highlights that went around social media?

[Ryan Music]

That was Mike Green, the Marshall.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay.

[Brady Quinn]

Used to be.

[Ryan Music]

He's going to be, he may be very well the highest drafted guy there. He had a great week in the two days that he was there.

[LeVar Arrington]

Gosh, there it is. Mike Renner. Good stuff, man. Thanks so much for doing it. Also your breakdown and the specs on Pete Prisco. We can't wait to play that for him at the Super Bowl New Orleans next week.

[Ryan Music]

So thanks so much for having me.

[LeVar Arrington]

There he is, Mike R. Here.

[Jonas Knox]

What do you call portly?

[LeVar Arrington]

Portly, you know, stout. Oh, man, yeah. I mean, he's in scout mode. There it is, the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox of the year, two pros and a cup of joe filling in for Colin. Coming up next year, though, somebody's rooting interest has been unveiled when it comes to the Super Bowl. We'll have that for you right here at fsr. Be sure to catch live editions of.

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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your base basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

[Mike Renner]

There was something sentimental when you, like when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week, I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buckwild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao, Titana, Charles.

[LeVar Arrington]

Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, the sketchy guy named Steve.

[Arturo Castro]

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[LeVar Arrington]

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[Arturo Castro]

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[Katie Couric]

Hey, everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch and I'm exhausted, but turns out the end is near. Right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next Question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha bee, Roy Wood Jr. And Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[LeVar Arrington]

NFL. We'll get into that for you here on FSR. Before we get to the next Hardline News with Ryan Music, though, wanna remind you, shortly after, after the show, the podcast will be going up. So if you've missed any of it, be sure to check out the pod. Search Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow rate and review it again. Just Search Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll see today's show posted right after we get off the air.

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No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. Oh, Brian. Music.

[Mike Renner]

All right, Saquon Barkley, he's getting ready to play in the Super super bowl for the first time in his career. Well, not for the Eagles, though, because regarding the last time they were in the super bowl, they were taking on the Chiefs, of course. And this is what Saquon Barkley had to say about that matchup. Of course, I was rooting against the Eagles they had just knocked us out of the playoffs. There was no part of me that wanted the Eagles to win that game. Well, of course, two years later, two playoff wins over 2,000 thousand yards. Things are much different now for Saquon Barkley.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, I mean, he's rooting for him now.

[LeVar Arrington]

Like, Saquon, why don't you have a little bit of an edge and just start gambling on the game? You know what I mean? Like, let's. Let's spice this up a little bit here. I mean, do something, you know, take. Take a better approach.

[Mike Renner]

Would you say you're gonna go for more than 122 rushing cards?

[LeVar Arrington]

Right. By the way, is there a path to victory for Philadelphia of Saquon? Die feels like he's kind of the linchpin to that entire team, per usual. And if he doesn't have a big day, they got no. They got no opportunities. Unless Jalen hurts all of a sudden, starts throwing it downfield like he hasn't all year long.

[Brady Quinn]

Out of the straight jacket.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Interesting.

[LeVar Arrington]

I guess so.

[Mike Renner]

I. I would say it feels unlikely. I mean, obviously we know how talented an A.J. brown is and even Devonte Smith, which sort of feels like an afterthought at times, but just so much of what they've done this year has been just built through. Is Saquon going for over 100 yards or not? I have a hard time. I have a hard time seeing that.

[LeVar Arrington]

Play out that way. Will Joe Shane watch the super bowl, do you think? Do you think he's going to?

[Mike Renner]

Actually, how about this? Let's say Saquon does go off in the Super Bowl. Do you want to be in the room if Joe Shane is watching the Super Bowl?

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, God.

[Mike Renner]

Hell.

[LeVar Arrington]

Do you.

[Brady Quinn]

Do you fire your GM in New York if they win the super bowl and say no?

[Jonas Knox]

Actually, I'd rather want to be where John Mayer is. I'd rather watch out.

[Mike Renner]

That's where you want. That's the room you want to be.

[Brady Quinn]

In, especially at bedtime. Let's see how long it takes. Jonas, he said he'd have a hard time sleeping, bro. Relax, Relax.

[Mike Renner]

Wrap up with this. Panthers quarterback Bryce Young. He had a rocky second season, obviously gotten benched at one point during the year, but did bounce back in a big way. End of the game. End of the season. Three game stretch, seven touchdowns, no picks, passer rating over 111. Well, his head coach, Dave Canales, here's what he had to say about Young. I just got to give him all the credit. Handling it the way that he did with the maturity and attacking it and really positioning himself for the next opportunity, not knowing when that would come, really taking on that challenge and finding joy in playing the game again. So Bryce Young sort of finding his footing towards the end of last season.

[LeVar Arrington]

You know, Justin Herbert got an opportunity to play because Tyrod Taylor got stabbed by the team trainer.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes.

[Mike Renner]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

If Andy Dalton doesn't get in that car accident, Bryce Young maybe never gets on the field again for Carolina.

[Jonas Knox]

Sort way of looking at it. So I'm just saying credit for how well he. I mean, great.

[LeVar Arrington]

He saved his death.

[Jonas Knox]

He was awesome. Versus Atlanta to finish the season. His best game as a pro. Hopefully that'll give them some patience with him into year three. He gets another shot.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. Jeez, a car accident.

[Brady Quinn]

Good job, Jonas.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, that's the least I could do, you know.

[Brady Quinn]

Stabbed him, huh?

[LeVar Arrington]

Let me tell you, Lavar.

[Brady Quinn]

Lavar, I don't like your tongue puncher. Puncher would have been better, but stabbed.

[Mike Renner]

Would you say shiv?

[Brady Quinn]

That's. That's just as bad as stabbed. Let's get away from that. Whoa.

[LeVar Arrington]

Hey, you know what? Hey, Lavar, we don't really appreciate your tone today, to be honest with you.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, okay.

[LeVar Arrington]

You know what?

[Jonas Knox]

Don't do it.

[Brady Quinn]

You know what? Find it. I'll leave if you don't do it. If you don't want me to be on the show, I'll leave.

[LeVar Arrington]

As the in laws would say.

[Brady Quinn]

Hey, you know what?

[Bobby Bones]

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[Arturo Castro]

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[LeVar Arrington]

I love storytelling And I love you so I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Katie Couric]

Hey, everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlamagne. Tha God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[LeVar Arrington]

What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Virgin Demers.

[Brady Quinn]

Jason Demers here. And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.

[LeVar Arrington]

Hey, I got a lot to say here.

[Arturo Castro]

Here too.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay?

[LeVar Arrington]

Each week we'll get together to chat about the sport that we love.

[Brady Quinn]

Tons of guests are going to join in, too. But we're not just going to be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies, we're talking tv, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on le table.

[Mike Renner]

Listen to NHL Unscripted with Vir and.

[Bobby Bones]

Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.

[LeVar Arrington]

Wherever you get your podcasts.