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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to FOX Sports Radio. All right, here we go with Tower two. We got news J Mac. We started our show an hour ago talking about Caleb Williams. So we had a bumpy OTA and three straight days he has scuffed and struggled today. Two picks in the 7 on 7 red zone drill. So that red zone is the place you do not make mistakes.
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Sarah Spain
I'm sure if it's at the front.
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Colin Cowherd
Of the end zone, you throw it low. If it's at the back of the end zone, you throw it high. You don't throw picks in the red zone. He had two today. People are getting a little worked up and I go ahead JJ Watt.
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Sarah Spain
I'm saw you saw JJ Watt put something on social. It was alluded to your take on Caleb Williams and, and you know, training camp picks and so forth and he kind of tried to pick it apart and all these people think, oh, see, cowherd's wrong. It's no big deal that Caleb Williams is messing up here early on.
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Colin Cowherd
You guys, everything is something. Yeah, nothing is everything but Jaden Daniels. Last year at camp, Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury first week of camp were saying publicly, oh my God, this kid is miles ahead of where rookies are. Sean Payton is texting me during camp last year. Bo Nix needs a few starts. He's going to get good really fast. By October, Bo Nix had a pass rating over 100. Everything matters. I want to bring in the former Bears coach. It's so apropos that we have. Dave wants that on the show today. Six years Bears, five years Dolphins, 39 years coaching football. So listen, you can give Caleb a little bit of a pass for last year it was, I mean they had a three head coaches by the end of it. But Dave, the critics of Caleb Williams said he plays too much hero ball. He could struggle with accuracy. He could be a little bit moody. So when I see with Ben Johnson all of these things coming out at camp, he's not getting plays in the footwork. He's, he's again, little hero ball, holding onto the ball. It's something is. I don't want to hear that. It's nothing. Isn't it something?
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Dave Wanstadt
Yes, it is. And I'll tell you this in training camp and you know, I live this, you know, we would go through training camp and we, let's say we were struggling running the football. We would say, well it's just preseason, it's just a training camp. Those things usually do show up once you start playing for real, but it's early and I would just say this. Caleb, keep in mind last year at training camp, he, he was a guy that had a tough time getting a snap because he was never up under center. I mean this is how primitive the whole pro passing game under center play, action, pass was to this kid. So you know, I think it's a starting point there and then, and then Ben does everything by timing, by that, I mean it's 1, 2, 3, the ball's coming out now you got to get it obviously to the right person or it might be five steps. 1, 2, 345. And everything is tied together from the line protection to the receiver routes and the quarterback. So this is there, there is a learning process here. And I would probably say the biggest difference between here and OTAs is now there's a pass rush and they're not hitting the quarterback. But the Bears now are getting a lot of pressure. They and probably putting their hands up and, and that's a little bit different from him because he's throwing from a different spot. You go back to his college days, Colin at usc, this guy, he saw more three man rush and more of a prevent defense than any quarterback in college football because they knew that he wouldn't sit in the pocket, he was going to scramble and he was going to try to throw it deep. So this is now all of a sudden it's play fake and it's coming out 1, 2, 3. This is completely foreign to him. I think he'll be fine. You know, I'm going up for a couple of days next week, so I'll get a firsthand look and sit down and sit down with Ben. We'll have a couple of good conversations.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to ask you about Mike McDaniel. So I do think in this day and age offensive coaches have an advantage because all the rules lean offense. So it does help to be an offensive coach. Now that doesn't mean Sean McDermott can't be great, but even Belichick felt a little out of touch his last four or five years in New England. The whole darn league now is about quarterbacks and offensive coaches. And Mike McDaniel goes to Miami, and everybody loved him. He was quirky. He was unique. In my takeaway now, two, three years later is lot of sizzle, not a lot of steak. They don't run the ball. It's a lot of clever. It's a lot of multiple sets in motion. I would move off Tyreek Hill. I would. I would get picks. I don't think it's working in Miami. I don't think it is. You've been there. What are your thoughts on that?
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Dave Wanstadt
Well, I, you know, two thoughts. Number one, the Tyree Kill situation. I don't know. How do you have an outside shot to go to the playoffs as a wild card, which they did last year. And some things had a fall. Right. But that last game, if they win and two or three things happen, and your best player, Tyreek Hill, does not go in the game, and they asked you that at a press conference, and you don't have an answer. I'm still, like, taken back a little bit by that response. And the other thing that bothers me, and you hit it right on the head. You know, Chris Greer was on my staff when I was there. He was one of my scouts. Great. I thought he was very good. I don't know, Mike, as a head coach, but the players that they signed as free agents, the players that they drafted, the first comment out of everybody's mouth this year with Miami was, he's a tough guy. Oh, we drafted the big tackle, Grant, out of Michigan. But you know why? He is a tough guy. It's weak. It's. It's. It's. You know, I hate to say this, but it's probably too late. It's like halfway through the season, you decide that you want to run the football. It's too late. That's training camp. And now all of a sudden, they want to become a tough football team. I just don't.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't.
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Dave Wanstadt
It's going to be very difficult to turn that mindset.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, it's funny about guys like Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur and Sean McVay. Even though they're offensive coaches, they love the run game. They Love Shanahan and McVay and LaFleur love power football. And so I think sometimes I think McDaniel again, I just. I understood the media falling for it, but it was a lot of motion and a lot of stuff didn't matter. But the difference between Shanahan and McDaniel because there's a lot of the same offenses. Shanahan runs the ball. He loves to run the ball.
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Dave Wanstadt
And we all know quarterback is the key to all this stuff. At the end of the day, who is down there saying that he hasn't patched it up yet. He has a problem with Tyreek Hill. They haven't really bonded since the end of the season when Tyreek Hill said he didn't want to have anything to do with the Dolphins. He didn't like their culture. Well, I tell you what happened to many camp call and what happened to OTAs. These guys had six months to work through that problem, that issue, whatever it is, to what extent I don't know. But when you got your starting quarterback coming out during training camp saying, I got a problem with him, we're not on the same page. That concerns the heck out of me.
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Colin Cowherd
When I watch those old Dallas Cowboy films, NFL films, and you were part of that great team with Jimmy Johnson and I hear Troy Aikman. Jimmy had left. Barry was there and, and Troy is lighting guys up and he's, he's questioning maturity on his teammates. He's questioning maturity. And I think that takes. That's why I like my quarterback sometimes to, you know, be a grown up here. And Shador Sanders gets two tickets and finally Andrew Barry came out and said, that's just not smart. What do you do? You don't have a dominant quarterback. You drafted two kids. You got Kenny Pickett. What do you do with tickets? How do you address it as a coach? It would be so hard for me to watch the door Sanders and not make judgments on him based on driving 90 miles an hour as a fifth round rookie. I would, I would have a hard time looking at him the same way. What do you make of what he did and how, how much do you think that will hurt his Cleveland experience?
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Dave Wanstadt
I think it's going to affect him. I'll tell you why. You know, he, he's a quarterback. You're. If you're a defensive lineman, it's still wrong. It still would concern you. But I'll be honest with you. I've had defensive linemen that have kind of fallen into the same mentality. Always something, you know, going on with the guy. No one ever talked about it, but your quarterback is the face of the program. And everything is going to be magnified that this kid does. And the second thing that really bothers me is, you know, and I'm sure Dion's told him this, son, there's a reason that you fell from the first round down to the fourth or fifth round. There's a reason for that. Okay, we cannot give these people any reason to think anything negative about you except football performance. If the football performance isn't good enough, hey, that's it. But don't give them any other reason. And here we go. We got a reason to just put a little doubt in your minds, not just for Cleveland, whether he's with Cleveland or anybody else. There's a lot of GMs are passed on this kid. A lot of GMs that an opportunity to draft him. Why I don't know all the details that this is just not good overall. I don't think it's just another. Another check to the box.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, I was saying this this week and it sounds weird. I said the most important thing when you take a job is your quarterback. That's why Harbaugh took the Chargers. Justin Herbert. But the second most important thing is ownership. And I said, I think I would take the Niners job, which has good ownership and a. Which has great ownership and a good quarterback. Brock Purdy over going to Cincinnati where Burrow's great. But I don't trust the scouting department. I don't trust the ownership. And I said, I worry about Joe Burrow becoming Matt Stafford where we all know he's great, but there's. It's a circus of coaches. They don't draft well enough. The organization at the top isn't good enough. So I saw a story this week about Joe Burrow. He was upset about more holdouts. How do you think the Burrow thing. How do you think it plays out? Because Dave, he's the best quarterback. Last year there's an argument he was the league's best quarterback. He was the best quarterback in the league and did not make the playoffs. How do you. Are you worried that he becomes Stafford in Detroit?
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Dave Wanstadt
Yes, absolutely. I think you have to be. You know, because I don't know even with Hendrickson and their number one draft picks hold not too right. The pass rusher from Texas A and M. But I would say this. I'm going to just remind me of a little story. You know, I worked for the Dolphins with Coach Shula for six weeks before Jimmy got the Dallas job. And Coach Shula told me to I'm going to dispute your priorities here. He said, you know the difference, Dave, between this NFL job and the in college. And I said, no, coach. And he said, well, understand who the three most important people are in the NFL number one year owner, number two year owner and number three year owner. So that's just. I don't know if coach Hula knew anything then. Okay. But that was his philosophy. But I would say to this, okay, I don't know. It's a distraction. The first thought that comes to my mind is, is it's a distraction. And you do not. Last year it was the receivers get them signed and man, the quickest way to be defeated. You've heard me say this when we did shows together is to be distracted. And right now this football team is distracted. And you know, you know Mike Bryan said, yeah, we'll get him signed. I mean he's 30 years old. You know what the market is, what Watt got and what Miles. You know what the pay this guy because you know the reason when you have a good, a great offense like you have with Burrow and that group of receivers, a great offense, it's going to score points at the end of the game. We always talk about you have to have defensive closers and who are your closers. It's your pass rushers, your two pass rushers and your two corners. They're the guys. If you don't have them, you have a tough time stopping people when they're throwing it. And you do have the lead.
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Colin Cowherd
You.
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Dave Wanstadt
That was the Dolphins problem for years with Dan Marino. He'd get a lead, couldn't get off the field on defense and they get on a score. I mean he's 30 years old. So you get three good years on some to a three year contract. This is my opinion. Signed to a three year contract and let Burrow, you know, in three years, I mean, you know, I don't know, it just bothers me that did you would let this distraction. I don't know what's going on with their number one pick, the rookie, the defensive end, you know, language or something. I read somebody said I don't know about these rookie contracts anymore. You know what he's talking about with language. But do you need these two guys in there? You need them in there now?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And it should be noted that when Hendrickson did not play they're like 30 second with a pass rush. So he is their pass rush. Finally Dave wants that. Joining us, one of my favorite people I've said this with Nick Saban. He's not going back to college, Dave, because with the nil you have to pay so much money for players 15 million. You have to go to your boosters to get 15 million bucks. You're not going to buy out a coach for 60 million. Pay Nick Saban 70 million, raise 15. There's too much money now. You're not going to fire your coach. Nick's not going to coach college. He already did great there. But I do think, because of the way Miami ended, he would take a call. If Arch Manning went to the Saints or Arch Manning went to Cleveland. I think he would take the phone call. Do you?
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Dave Wanstadt
He would take the phone call just because, you know, everybody wants to be wanted. Everybody wants to, you know, and I can speak from Jimmy, I mean, and not get into the teams. But even when Jimmy was into Fox several years. Okay, when he was done with it all, that he called me one time in particular and was offered so much money to run the whole thing, coach, gm, everything with the team. And he took the call, you know, but obviously he didn't have any interest in doing it. So I think that's where Nick's at right now, where Belichick's enjoying this. I saw Bill's press conference, and he's talking about going out and meeting with alumni, how much he enjoyed going to other sports, men's and women's, and meeting the student athletes. You know, it's new to Bill, so he's enjoying it right now. You know, Nick's kind of gone. He's traveled that road. I don't see Nick getting back into it.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, how do you think Belichick does?
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Dave Wanstadt
I think he's going to do good, you know, the biggest. And I did it with Pitt when I went back to Pitt, and I had some really good players, obviously, you know, Reavis and that in that company, what, what happens, though, is you don't. The restrictions in college with classes and the time you don't have. And Bill is such a perfectionist. And, you know, do it over, do it over. Meet more, watch more, tape. The time restrictions in college are the number one thing that gets you when you separate the NFL from college football, in my opinion. And players aren't going to have it down as pat, and they're going to make mistakes. And whether it be turning the ball over or breaking coverages, things like that happen with college kids, which all of a sudden you might be doing a fabulous job coaching, and you may have a lot of talent, but they make a mistake because you can't spend the time with them in college that you can in the NFL. That's the hurdle he's going to have to get over.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that, that. That's always been my point about, like, I Said this Bill Walsh coached in college, but the college limitations limited how brilliant Bill Walsh could be. But when you gave him 50 hours a week or Belichick, all that extra time, Bill's the best defensive coach ever. Bill Walsh the best offensive coach ever. If you told Andy Reid he only got 17 hours a week, Andy, oh, yeah, he'd be pulling his hair out. Dave Wanstadt, as always, coach, great seeing you.
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Dave Wanstadt
All right, see you in Chicago.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. No, I think that that's the point I've always felt, about why all great NFL coaches wouldn't work the scheme. Guys like Kyle Shanahan and Bill Belichick or Andy Reid. What makes them so brilliant is they're like mad scientists, and they can just give hour after hour after hour at the podium in the film room. College doesn't allow that. You got limited hours, limited practice, and you're dealing with younger kids now. They are more malleable. A young player doesn't have as many bad habits. So you can sort of. They're. They're, they're like. Like kids. Kids are sponges. At 50, you're not a sponge. At 35, you're not a sponge. So, you know, you don't break a lot of habits. At 18, 19, 20, you played high school football maybe one year somewhere else, you transfer in. Bill doesn't have to break a bunch of bad habits. Kids are sponges. So I think you learn quicker when you're young. They say that about languages. My kids can learn languages. My son at 19 can speak German. It's like, I tried French for six months on an app. Six months. I got four words down. This, this, this brain up here is a parking garage. No cars left. There's no opening. J. Mac. There's just nowhere. There's no more information space available. So I do think Belichick is limited in what you can do, but the athletes he has now are able to learn a lot of stuff, don't have as many bad habits.
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Sarah Spain
Bonjour, Jean Appel. Jason. I took two years of French in high school, and then I got a hard teacher for year three and dropped it instantly. Yeah, I love the language. It sounds cool, right? When you go to listen. Paris, one of the great cities in the world. I know you love Chicago, but come on, Paris is incredible. You go there, you hear the language, you're just like, oh, this is.
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Colin Cowherd
It's a certain romance to it. One more herd.
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Sarah Spain
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Colin Cowherd
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Sarah Spain
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show Promised. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
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Sarah Spain
Yeah, you blubberlips.
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Colin Cowherd
Blaming me. Well, you know what? It's called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been overpromising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us. Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dave Wanstadt
Who cares about truth when the lie is more entertaining?
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Angela Rye
Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rye, co host of Native Lamp with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture. We talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela, I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves.
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Colin Cowherd
That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
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Angela Rye
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.
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Sarah Spain
We're like family, but we disagree all the time.
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Dave Wanstadt
All the time.
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Sarah Spain
And we love when our listeners chime.
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Angela Rye
In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.
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Colin Cowherd
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South.
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Dave Wanstadt
I don't know what you're on.
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Angela Rye
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen to Native Land Pod on the.
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Sarah Spain
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
Welcome. Welcome home, y'. All.
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Angela Rye
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm ebony, and every time Tuesdays, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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Dr. Lea Trittate
Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going.
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Colin Cowherd
Through something like that is a traumatic.
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Sarah Spain
Experience, but it's also not the end of your life.
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Dr. Lea Trittate
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Trittate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
I got a lot of stuff going on. Dodgers, Yankees trade deadline is coming up. My Mariners picked up a first baseman from the D Backs. Trade deadline's fun. Adam Wainwright next hour. J. Mac with the news.
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Dave Wanstadt
No, no, turn on the news.
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Sarah Spain
This is the Herd line news. All right, this is a tough one because we're, we're a year in advance, but you know, the Arch Manning hype train has left the station. There's no putting it back in. And everybody wants to connect the dots of Arch Manning to the Rams because obviously they traded with Atlanta for that extra first round pick next year. So they have two. And of course there was the video of Les Sneed talking to Arch Manning, Matt Stafford's age and his contract negotiations the last two years. Colin, I'm just, I want to be realistic here. I don't think there's any chance the Rams get in the Arch Manning discussion. It's going to cost more than two firsts. You look at the price it cost the Chiefs to get Mahomes back in the day just to get to the 10th spot. And, and I don't think the Rams are going to be a discussion. Here's the image of Lesney talking to Arch Manning. Colin, be a realist.
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Colin Cowherd
Les needs son goes to Texas. That's why they drafted in the six round Jordan Whittingham, that wide receiver, because he had such a quality kid. He was loved in the locker room and he actually was pretty good last year in a couple of starts as a six round receiver. So Les has a lot of information. Listen, they have their own first round pick and then I think it's Atlanta's. So if Atlanta, if Pennix doesn't play well or Pennix gets hurt and Atlanta has the seventh pick.
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Sarah Spain
Well, no, no, they still have cousins. Come on.
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Colin Cowherd
But, but if Atlanta is decent and has the 13th, 14th, 15th pick, then you're gonna have to give up both first round picks and next year's number one. I think that would get you the number one or two pick that gets.
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Sarah Spain
You in the discussion. I don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
Three number ones is. Come on, three.
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Sarah Spain
Here's the interesting thing about Archbanning. So you know the producer here on this segment tried to sell me, well, what if arch doesn't go one and he's like 12th? Couldn't that, couldn't the Rams, they could afford to move up for him there. Right. And I was like, there's no chance Arch is going anywhere other than one. That would be my guess. Would you agree or disagree?
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Colin Cowherd
I, I mostly agree. But here's the other reality, why the Rams couldn't do it. Because the team that has the number one pick is going to be Cleveland or the Saints and they need a quarterback.
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Sarah Spain
Exactly.
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Colin Cowherd
And by the way, the Manning family in New Orleans, the children's hospital is named after him. So getting Arch Manning in New Orleans for the Saints, his dad Archie played there. I remember those bad same scenes would literally be the greatest gift, the greatest football gift any franchise has had in maybe 50 years.
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Sarah Spain
And let's be real, there's no world where there's a Ricky Williams or Herschel Walker type deal for Archman. I don't think. I think more people would want to get him in the building given his pedigree. By the way, did you know he's 6, 4, 215?
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Sarah Spain
When we talk about like Justin Herbert and all these big strapping and he's.
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Colin Cowherd
Athletic, he can move, he can run, he's going one.
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Sarah Spain
I don't care what Drew Aller does, Sellers or any of these.
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Colin Cowherd
We know the worst teams in the league. I mean we do. Last year there were seven bad teams because the league has become so quarterback offensive head coach driven. You can look at the teams that are going to stink. Yeah, Cleveland's not going to be good. The division's got too much talent. Lamar Burrow and the Steelers, Aaron, they've got a good roster. We know the Saints are going to be bad. The New York Giants could be really, really bad. So all those have a Manning tie. Cleveland has a Manning tie. New Orleans does. And Eli played with the Giants. So you can almost write it down. The three worst teams, three or four worst teams of league. It's not difficult. It's just unless there's an injury to a quarterback, you can kind of pinpoint who's going to be God awful right now.
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Sarah Spain
And by just for the record, the guys who were Projected number one before the season. In recent years, have they don't like tumble a little bit. They tumble out. Remember the kid at Oklahoma, Spencer Rattler? He went from like, oh, he's gonna be the first pick to like out.
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Colin Cowherd
Blake ers, Quinn Ewers.
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Sarah Spain
Quinn Ewers tumbles way down to the sixth round.
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Colin Cowherd
But I'll say this. I did. I was not a Rattler or a Ewers fan, so I didn't agree on this show. I never bought into those guys. I bought into Caleb Williams, I bought into Jaden Daniels, I bought into Andrew Locke. I did buy into Trevor Lawrence. I completely buy into Arch Manning's talent. Yeah. And his. And his just intelligence, his athletic ability. I buy into it.
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Sarah Spain
Yeah. So you. I mean, I don't think there's anywhere Arch. The only thing he could do is say, I'm not coming out. I want to stay another year in Austin. But I would put that really small percentage. Next up, Colin. Let's go to the 49ers who obviously are coming off the down year. However, the schedule has everybody geeked, including Nick Bosa, who believes this team is going to the Super Bowl.
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Colin Cowherd
I definitely think this group can win a Super Bowl.
- [32:36]
Dave Wanstadt
You look at like our 19 team and nobody thought that was. It's not, it's not about all having.
- [32:44]
Colin Cowherd
A huge name guy at every position.
- [32:46]
Dave Wanstadt
And like kind of like we did.
- [32:48]
Colin Cowherd
In 23 or whatever. Yeah. It's just how you gel and how you play.
- [32:54]
Dave Wanstadt
And I think when I look at who we have in this team, I think we undoubtedly have a chance to do that.
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Sarah Spain
Here's the fun part. Colin, we have a Screenshot here of 49ers notable off season moves on additions and losses. Are you ready for that? Look at the ads by the way. They had to sneak Roberts, Salah in there and a backup quarterback.
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Colin Cowherd
Dude, they didn't just lose guys. Aaron Banks is a very good guard. Debo, I mean, Greenlaw and Hungo are at Chavarius. Ward's a good corner. They lost four really notable defensive players and you can say what you want, but Banks and Debo Samuel are going to be high end starters for the Packers.
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Sarah Spain
And the commanders, the only counter is, well, wait a sec, they lost all these high end starters on defense. Oh, the defense stunk last year. Now was it because these guys are getting long in the tooth or was it the offense was just so inept due to the injuries that the defense was on the field a lot and you have to. It kind of makes you wonder a little bit why would they let all of these guys go?
- [34:04]
Colin Cowherd
Well, it's because they're paying Brock Purdy. That's why they're letting them go. That's why I keep Saying if Christian McCaffrey plays 16 games, the Niners are going to be a playoff team. But if he goes down with those defensive losses, I'm sorry, bro. This team's not nearly talented as you think.
- [34:21]
Sarah Spain
If those defenders were still so elite, why was this not Even a top 10 unit last year when it should have been top?
- [34:27]
Colin Cowherd
Because they made a move to Robert Salah. They did not love their defensive coordinator. That's why they went and and got Salah Salaba.
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Sarah Spain
Okay. All right, final story Con this is interesting. Kind of went down yesterday. Defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, remember he signed a massive 110 million dollar deal with the Raiders last March. Well, it's over for him. The Raiders released him after one season with the team and now it gets ugly.
- [34:53]
Colin Cowherd
They are.
- [34:54]
Sarah Spain
The Raiders are claiming they don't have to pay him due to how he rehabbed a previous foot injury. Wilkins has filed a grievance with the nflpa. There was a foot fracture in week five injury required surgery knocking him out for the season. It was still bothering him when training camp came back and the Raiders released him and voided 35 million in guaranteed money. Obviously this is going to get ugly between the two and then it gets even spicier. Now you know Wilkins was a stud back like three years ago.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, good player.
- [35:29]
Sarah Spain
Guess who's talking to him already? The New England Patriots and Mike Vrabel. They are kicking the tires. Wilkins from Massachusetts went to high school in Connecticut and Vrabel recruited him to Ohio State when he was back at Ohio State.
- [35:42]
Colin Cowherd
Recruitment. Now he's a good player, he's a high end player and you know he's.
- [35:46]
Sarah Spain
Going to be motivated given how bad it went with Vegas. Kind of spicy.
- [35:50]
Colin Cowherd
Colin J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for.
- [35:56]
Sarah Spain
Stopping by the Herd line news.
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Colin Cowherd
J. Mac got a look at all those Niner losses and suddenly his bravado, you can see it dripping out of the JMAC confidence meter. That's what I say about San Francisco. If McAffrey's healthy, they're fine. But McAffrey's coming off injuries. Trent Williams got about a year left. They Hufanga is a pro Bowler. Greenlaw is a pro Bowler. Eugene Banks is an excellent, excellent guard. Debo Samuel was a playmaker. They're all gone and they're. And they have been. Let's Be honest. They have been. Unlike the Rams, who have been unbelievable in the last three years in the draft, the Niners have not. The Niners have missed on as many draft picks as they've hit on. The Rams have hit on every defensive draft pick for three straight years. Every single guy. You can go young, Kobe Turner, Jared Verse, line. Everybody's hit. Niners have missed on a lot of picks. So that's why you keep saying, oh, this and that. All I know is I'm going to take McVeigh. Three years of great drafting Stafford over. I mean those dude. Now, Devon Hargrove was a disappointment, but he's still a body. He was a disappointment. He didn't live up to the deal. But I mean, when your additions are a defensive coordinator and your losses are multiple starters, here's another one that is undervalued. Jalen Moore, the left tackle.
- [37:27]
Sarah Spain
Oh, he was a swing tackle. Come on.
- [37:29]
Colin Cowherd
Okay. Everybody in the league needs a sp. When you have an old left tackle. Jalen Moore, okay. Is more valuable than you think because Trent Williams.
- [37:40]
Dave Wanstadt
It is.
- [37:41]
Colin Cowherd
And he's great. It's highly doubtful he's starting 17 games.
- [37:44]
Dave Wanstadt
I'd agree.
- [37:44]
Sarah Spain
Yeah. Now the, the Niners did have a. They had struggled in the draft for a couple years because of that Trey Lance deal. It really set him back this past draft. The kid Mikel Williams out of Georgia is a superstar.
- [37:55]
Colin Cowherd
He is.
- [37:55]
Sarah Spain
Salah is going to unleash him. I really like the running back out of Oregon. You know him, Jordan James, he's going to contribute. Every running back's good with Shannon.
- [38:03]
Colin Cowherd
I like him.
- [38:03]
Sarah Spain
Nick Martin, the linebacker out of okay, State.
- [38:06]
Colin Cowherd
Very good.
- [38:06]
Sarah Spain
And then they got the defensive tackle from Texas. It's going to be fine. Okay, 12 wins. Lock it up. Niners are going to be fine.
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Dave Wanstadt
Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, 12 wins. It's 12 and 5. All right.
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Sarah Spain
I considered 13, but hope it's not.
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Colin Cowherd
Overcast in any of those games.
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Dave Wanstadt
For Brock Purdy, be sure to catch.
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Colin Cowherd
Who cares about truth when the lives.
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Colin Cowherd
That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
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Colin Cowherd
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South.
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Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome home, y'. All.
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Colin Cowherd
So I've said I, I don't know why I care so much. They're arguably the worst team in the league and they have four quarterbacks, none in their prime or none special. I think Joe Flacco will win the Cleveland Brown starting job. I said that months ago. I think they'll move Kenny Pickett and I think they'll, they'll keep the two young guys. So Shador Sanders in OTAs was completing 80% of his throws. But now in camp, as Dave Wanstadt said, you face a pass rush. It's not as easy. So Shador is not taking first team reps does not surprise me. Here's, here's his thoughts on what's transpiring with the Browns. I don't think that's, that's not my.
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Dave Wanstadt
Place, you know, to answer to even be able to give the answer to that. I feel like it's not in my control.
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Colin Cowherd
So I'm not even going to think about that or have that even in my thought process of why it is. Like there's a lot of people that want to have the opportunity to be at this level and I'm here and I'm thankful to have the opportunity. So whenever that is, it is. I like his answer. I think he's been humbled. You know, I don't love the hat on backwards, but it's not the Wednesday press conference, so I'm not going to be too judgmental on that. It's just, you know, it's camp nonsense. Nobody cares. But yeah, I think it's kind of interesting and I've said this before, I don't remember ever a time I've been guessing on quarterbacks forever and I think I've had a pretty good track record. Now that Sam Darnold's turned it around, I think my track record is pretty good. I didn't like guys that the GMs did and I think I've been right on it. I thought Chador was a solid, you know, in a weak quarterback draft. He's not Cam Ward, you know, but if he gets drafted like Jackson Dart did at the end of the first round or second round, I thought that was reasonable. He fell to the fifth and I don't think he would have been drafted in the fifth if not for Jimmy Haslam. Because if, if you remember the Andrew Barry and Kevin Fansky reaction to the draft pick they drafted two rounds earlier, Dylan Gabriel, the quarterback from Oregon, it looked as though the owner made the pick. So I find it fascinating. I mean, I, I, I didn't think he was a great prospect, but Gotti had a terrible O line and no run game at Colorado and he completed the most, he's the most accurate college quarterback of all time and he was good against good teams. He was productive. He wasn't overwhelmed. He was running for his life. So I don't know, I probably just whipped. So I am and I'll say it again, I think Flacco starts. They move Pickett, somebody's going to go down in camp. They'll get a seventh round pick for Pickett. I think Cleveland wants more picks. They're going to fight like hell to get a six round pick at a Kenny Picket. If they move him because they got two firsts, I think they want, they want every pick possible. So if they finish like third or fourth in the draft they can move up to number one. I think they give away the farm and probably should to get Arch Manning. But here I had Dave Wanstadt on earlier. Here's his thoughts on sort of all this speeding tickets and the nonsense with Shador Sanders.
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Dave Wanstadt
No one ever talked about it, but your quarterback is the face of the program, and everything is going to be magnified that this kid does. And the second thing that really bothers me is, you know, and I'm sure Dion's told him this, son, there's a reason that you fell from the first round down to the fourth or fifth round. There's a reason for that. Okay? We cannot give these people any reason to think anything negative about you except football performance. If the football performance isn't good enough, hey, that's it. But don't give them any other reason.
- [46:55]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I thought Dave nailed it on the Caleb Williams stuff and the Shador Sanders stuff. It's. It's. And I hear this all the time about. Well, I mean, come on. Speeding tickets. Speeding tickets for the average citizen aren't good. But a speeding ticket for a CEO of a company, two of them in a week, makes you look like you're irresponsible. There are certain offices in a building, the corner one with the really nice oak tables. You're not judged the same. And you getting a speeding ticket. 34% of American men have been arrested. You hold quarterbacks, even in a football locker room to a totally different standard. They're the one that sits up there on a Wednesday with the big bank sponsor behind them. You know, telling you, Tom Brady and Big Ben, especially Brady. Brady, for years did a Monday radio hit in Boston. Do you think he needed to do it? No, he wanted to set the agenda for the franchise. Big Ben did the same thing. Big Ben in Pittsburgh. Those guys didn't need the money. They did it to set the agenda going into practice, create some intensity and urgency, win or lose. So, you know, I just. You got to do better. So it is kind of a fascinating space right now for Shidore Sanders. Here's the other thing, fans and I agree on this completely. Yesterday, I had a topic. The Athletic came out with their top rated, every NFL team. They had the packers at like five or six and the Broncos at 14. And I'm like, well, Denver's better than 14, and I don't think the packers are top five or six. Well, they did a fan poll. These were their power camp ratings, power ratings yesterday. So I said, broncos are too low, packers are too high. Well, what do you know? The Athletic had a fan poll this morning, and the most overrated team was the packers, and the most underrated team was the Broncos. So now they're both going to be fine because they have offensive coaches and they have young, talented quarterbacks going into their prime or in their prime. I Mean, Bo Nix is pretty old, so he may be in his prime by the end of this year or the beginning of next year. So they're both going to be fine. Because there is a recipe. If you look at the super bowl odds right now, look at this. J. Mac, the super bowl odds this year, 10 of 14 teams, 75% the highest ones have an offensive coach. So now, now you could say, what about Buffalo? What about Baltimore? Yes. If you have Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. What about Washington or Jaden Daniels? If you have a superstar game changing quarterback, then it becomes less relevant. But by and large, what are those teams all at the top have in common? Either a superstar quarterback or an offensive coach. And if you look at the final four coaches left in the, in the last four or five years, the last guy to win a Super bowl defensive guy was Belichick.
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Sarah Spain
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Think how long ago that was. So there is clearly a blueprint, a process and a formula. So both Denver and Green Bay are fine because they've got a good offensive coach and a better than average quarterback. So I think they'll both, I think they're both going to be playoff teams probably.
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Sarah Spain
When you look at those odds on the screen for the radio audience, the Bills, Ravens, Eagles, Chiefs are top four. I think it's pretty clear if you're looking for value to bet on, you have to go a. Into the NFC where it's an easier path like in the, in the afc. Colin, you may have to go through Mahomes, Lamar and Josh Allen and that's like mission impossible. So I, I'm seeing the Rams at plus 2200 and I'm like, wait a minute. I know gambling guys who like the Rams. I know you're on the Rams, they had a great off season. Why are they so why are they below the commanders? What, what am I missing here?
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Colin Cowherd
So I get McVeigh, Stafford, great GM, big money, and they've hit three straight years of defensive draft picks and they have no contract disputes and they're basically the same odds as the Bengals.
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Sarah Spain
How are the packers ahead of the Rams? I mean, even packers division is probably tougher. I, I don't if you.
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Colin Cowherd
And I said let's, let's name the best players between the Rams and Packers. Stafford's your best player. I can argue.
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Sarah Spain
Well, Devonte is better than any receiver. The packers have also Jared Verse.
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Colin Cowherd
Jared Verse is top five player. And by the end of this year, Jared Verse will be thought of as a top five pass rusher. Now they do have Josh Jacobs and Zach Tom, wait a minute.
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Sarah Spain
Kyron Williams is really freaking good with the Rams. I don't know that Josh Jacobs is that much better than him. Like, where are the packers better than the Rams?
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Colin Cowherd
Like, not in the front seven defensively. Secondary? Maybe in the secondary, maybe not. At wide receiver with Puka and Devonte Adams. Okay. I'll tell you, I think they're more athletic. I'm going to see how Terrence Ferguson, the rookie from Oregon, does with the Rams. He was a second or a third round pick, I think. I really like the packers tight ends. They're not great, but they're really, really good.
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Sarah Spain
We'll give you that. That's all you got.
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Colin Cowherd
Head coach, quarterback, defensive front seven, consistent pass rush. It's Rams all day.
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Sarah Spain
Yeah, I think.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Sarah Spain
I believe Rams are the value bet on that board.
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Colin Cowherd
It's funny that a big market team and Sean McVeigh and Matt Stafford, everywhere I look the last three years now, the knock on the Rams, and it's fair in terms of plus minus, their point differential was actually the lowest of top teams in the league. And a lot of that is because Buffalo and Baltimore and Detroit and Philadelphia just crush people. The Rams tend to beat you. You know, Stafford's not running around creating. They. They beat you on the whiteboard. They beat you schematically. They beat you with coaching and precision. So the Rams are not the Avalanche. Baltimore, Buffalo, Philadelphia and Detroit have been often with great mobile quarterbacks and grado lines. But I think the Rams again this year are undervalued.
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Sarah Spain
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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