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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
Auto Trader thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon.
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Colin Cowherd
To 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific.
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Jason McIntyre
Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast.
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Jason McIntyre
It is a Monday live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Nice to Be in today. J. Mac, the NBA ping pong ball draft lottery tonight. Very exciting, Very exciting.
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Colin Cowherd
The weather was so amazing out here all weekend. I forgot to ask you, get his son. Little sun's out, guns out for you.
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Jason McIntyre
I worked out, had a great time, sat watched a lot of NBA stuff.
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Colin Cowherd
A lot of bad NBA basketball.
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Jason McIntyre
Yesterday, went and had a beer with a buddy.
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Colin Cowherd
That Celtics Knicks game Saturday was unwatchable.
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Jason McIntyre
Kind of watchable. Be honest with you.
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Colin Cowherd
Why?
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Jason McIntyre
Because I had, you know, I think Boston's going to win the series.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, not if the Knicks win tonight. If the Knicks win tonight, I think they got a great chance to win the series.
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Jason McIntyre
If, if the Knicks win tonight, they're going to win the series.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, Celtics have led every.
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Jason McIntyre
Game by 26 of the games this year.
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Colin Cowherd
That's not great.
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Jason McIntyre
It's their formula. All right, it's a Monday, right? Wrong. As always, plenty of both. Here we go.
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Colin Cowherd
Where Colin was right.
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Jason McIntyre
Giannis, according to Shams, is going to explore the best fits outside of Milwaukee. We've been saying this for the last year to year and a half. You got a trophy. You don't control your first picks. You're not close to being in Indiana, a Cleveland, a Boston, an okc, and you're not close to being a San Antonio and Houston potentially. After the draft lottery tonight, it's time to reboot. And according to Shams, that's what Milwaukee and Giannis plan to do.
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Colin Cowherd
Where Colin was wrong.
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Jason McIntyre
If you'd have told me the Knicks would beat Boston both times in Boston, I'd have said you're crazy. If it had told me Boston would lead by 20 in both games or more and still lose, I'd have say impossible. But the impossible happened. Hard to explain. What I watched in Boston is the knicks currently lead 2 to 1 again, very clearly, one roster has eight guys who can shoot, pass and handle the ball. New York is not that roster. But if they win tonight, Boston's in big trouble.
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Colin Cowherd
Where Colin was right.
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Jason McIntyre
I said teams didn't want to draft Shador Sanders once he got out of the first round because they didn't want a Tim Tebow circus. And sure enough, even though he was the second quarterback taken by the Cleveland Browns, what were the questions about from the Cleveland media at camp?
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Matt Hasselbeck
This will probably fall on deaf ears, but don't look too much into it. There's plenty of reps. There's a lot of time between now and September, so we'll have a plan. But it's. It's an all encompassing evaluation it's not something that it's just based on the the practice reps. There's a lot that goes into it.
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Jason McIntyre
First questions, why is Shedeur not getting the starting reps? You knew it was coming. It's Tebow 2.0 where Colin was wrong. Derek Carr retired. I listen. I always liked him a four time all pro during the bad Al Pro bowl or during the Al Davis cruddy years which is hard to do. He was a life preserver for a terribly run franchise. Third season in the league. He was third in the MVP vote second round right of Fresno State. I liked him a lot, but there's not much you can do. The Raiders were a mess when he was there and then Dennis Allend is not a head coach, he's more of a coordinator. I thought he was going to have a Philip Rivers career where you didn't maybe watch a ton of them in college, but you were going to look at the end of his career and there'd be some hall of Fame votes and he retired yesterday and it never.
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Colin Cowherd
Transpired where Colin was right.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, the Athletic is reporting that NFL teams laughed at the Cowboys for giving up a third round pick for George Pickens, the very talented but incredibly volatile wide receiver. And as we said, when Mike Tomlinson moves off a drama filled offensive playmaker, they do not recover. I can give you about seven examples. This is also Jerry Jones. Once again as the NFL front offices have gotten younger and shrewder, the Cowboys are giving away draft picks like Skittles. The Cowboys to me have one of the weaker rosters overall in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Where Colin was wrong.
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Jason McIntyre
Julius Randle. Where did this come from? I always kind of liked him but his assist totals have gone through the roof. He has led Julius Randle has led the T Wolves and assists and and by the way with New York they wanted him to be a one pre Jalen Brunson and that's not what he is. But I never saw him as a 2. I saw him as a 3. He was great against the Lakers. He's been excellent in this series. He had a triple double Saturday and we just got to be honest here. Is it late developing? No, it's probably this staff Chris Finch has assembled knows how to use him. I don't think he's a better player. I think he is used more efficiently in Minnesota and good for Julius Randle.
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Colin Cowherd
Where Colin was right.
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Jason McIntyre
I did not buy the odds makers who had OKC at minus 800 to bury the Nuggets. I said this is going to be a six or seven game series. Jokic is the best player in the world and even though I love OKC's roster construct and depth, I would take the nugget starting five if he gave me a quarter to play for the championship again. OKC is built to win the entire thing and maybe Denver with no bench isn't, but it was disrespectful. The odds had this thing being a four or five game series and I'm sorry. Denver's got three great playoff veterans who have been in a lot of these.
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Colin Cowherd
Close big games where Colin was right.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, The Steelers enter 2025 as the only team in the league without their top quarterback, running back, wide receiver and left tackle from last year. I have said this for years, they don't take offense seriously. Once again, third year in a row, they are among the league leaders in defensive spending. I'll get to this later. But they become opposite of the Rams with an offensive coach and offensive spending and no drama. But it is remarkable. There's only one team in this league. Quarterback, running back, wide receiver, left tackle. Gone, gone, gone, gone. In an offensive league. I like Mike Tomlin, respect the Rooneys, but they just feel out of Touch for 2025 NFL Football where Colin was right. Where Colin was wrong with that. Matt Hasselbeck, 18 years in the league, is now joining us. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I don't think this is embarrass. Pickens is a, a young player, he's talented. But everybody knows in the league, everybody knew DEZ Bryant was a little emotional or Stefan Diggs. There's players that come with a reputation. If you were, if you're Dak and, and you know, Pickens reputation, if Mike Tomlin moves off him, a very tolerant guy, there's probably something there. How would you address it? Would you communicate with him early? What do you do knowing you're bringing somebody in the locker room? That comes with a personality and probably some, some demands.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You're a little grumpy on a Monday, Colin. Look, I'm listening to you, man. No, listen, I think you kill him with kindness. It's a clean slate. You give everybody a chance. At least that's what I did. You know, we, we sign guys all the time that maybe had a checkered pass on their previous team and then it's a clean slate. Like I'm going to give you a chance to lose my respect, I guess is how I would think of it. I mean, when we got Marshawn lynch, our team, Pete Carroll did a good job we killed him with kindness. He basically, basically got run out of Buffalo. We killed him with kindness. We told him what the standard was at our place. We didn't have a lot of rules. We had three rules, but they mattered. Those three mattered. We weren't going to have 10 rules, but we had three of them and that's what we care about. And he got on board and he was a great teammate. Like he was incredible the entire time that I was teammates with him. And then I would even say beyond. So I think if you're dak, you get a wide receiver. Wide receivers can be a little bit of high maintenance. Comes with the talent level. There's a lot of talent at wide receiver. George Pickens in this case has a ton of talent. Huge upside. You give it, you give him a chance. Because ultimately the chemistry between quarterback and a playmaker like that, I mean, that's. You could win or lose two or three games just on that alone.
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Jason McIntyre
You know, I, I look at the Cowboys Eagles is the first game of the year. And my take is the NFL said we don't know how good Dallas is going to be, so we're going to get him right up front and get a Cowboy game early. We don't know by week eight what they like. Philadelphia, we were talking about this, is that when you play in a Super bowl, everybody wants to get paid. Philadelphia is going to have they moved off some players. But this is a big. And there's some ego in this organization, which I'm totally comfortable with. When you are the first game, couple years ago, Lions beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead. When you've won a Super bowl or been in a Super bowl, you're the high profile team. Is off. Is an off season different? Does it feel a little different when you've been in the Super Bowl?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, first of all, I'm surprised by this Week 1 matchup. I'm not sure if you are divisional Cowboys. I mean, the Cowboys will rate well anytime. You don't need The Cowboys Week 1. You could throw the Chargers, the Bengals or somebody up there. But no, the off season is very different. And I remember, you know, even my rookie year, I came into the Green Bay packers. They were coming off of their, you know, two Super Bowls in a row. I remember when we were coming off of our super bowl in Seattle, Mike Holmgren was the head coach. The talking points are different. The coaching points are different. You know, basically you got to come back down the mountain. You know, the whole season you're talking about climbing a Mountain. It's 20 games. It's climbing a mountain. You don't just like start fresh. You got to come back down off that high. And I think that's a hard part. You know, some. Sometimes there's a little bit of fat cat syndrome. You know, you're on the banquet tour and on the, you know, vacation tour, you forget what got you there. But then other times it's in free agency, guys leave, coaches leave, everyone gets promoted. And your team is, isn't quite the same team. And so no matter, no matter who you are, I think you got to realize last year is last year. And you better buckle your chin strap and come to play in 2025 because your week one opponent, I mean, you got a target on your back for everybody, but especially that week one opponent.
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Jason McIntyre
I swear, this is not a Shador Sanders question, but both the Saints, now with Derek Carr's retirement and the Browns have an open quarterback competition. You don't get a lot of those in the NFL. Like, you just don't. Were you ever part of an open quarterback? Or at least you went in and there were spots open and how do you divvy up snaps and how does it work? Because you don't get many. That's a college issue. That's not a pro issue.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, well, listen, every situation is a little bit different and I always viewed it as it was an open competition. I mean, going back to that rookie year, I remember Mike Holmgren saying to our team, the Green Bay packers, he said, listen, I don't care how much you make where you were drafted, the best players are going to play. Then he said, now granted, I expect Reggie White to be our starting defensive end, I expect Brett Favre to be our starting quarterback, but the best players will play. I think the great organizations have the confidence to do that. Thinking back to Seattle and Pete Carroll, maybe his third year there, they were paying a ton of money to a bunch of other quarterbacks and they had the courage to start Russell Wilson, a rookie third rounder. They played the best player. That's, that's unusual. People don't usually do that. So the reps are usually divvied up. How they expect it to go, how want it to go, where is their money invested? And so for a late round pick, it's tough. Like, if I'm being honest, you're. There's going to be on rare occasions, are you even getting snaps with the first string center, like not, not in a live situation. And so there's going to be all these things you're going to basically have to make the most of every single opportunity. And I always found it. It was a lot easier when it was clearly defined.
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Steve Covino
Yeah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Not necessarily to the public, but it was clearly defined inside the building, inside that quarterb. Here's what you're actually competing for. Here's what's open to you. And you know, it's. Those are uncomfortable conversations, but I think it's best when those conversations are out on the table and they're. And they're actually had.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay. So you have to have at least four to five new playoff teams on an annual basis. Now I did very well last year in the AFC because I took the best quarterback in every division. I think the afc, it was almost like during the Peyton Manning Brady years. I got two right. So in the afc my predictions are Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, CJ Stroud. That feels like an easy one. I am going year two of Harbaugh has always been the year it pops. By the way, I think Vrabel's excellent Burrow and Mahomes make the playoffs. Let's pick apart my AFC playoff prediction. Anything you don't like.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, I love the Patriots, but that. You're asking a lot. I think you're asking a lot there. I think the Bengals were very, very close to being a playoff. So I'm down with the. I can get behind that one, but I'd be surprised to see the Patriots over the Dolphins right there. No one's a bigger Mike Vrabel fan than me. I love Drake May. I think they're a year away though, and I think they might actually be okay with that. But, but I think Miami, I would, I would slide my Miami in there. And that Texans division, that's the other one. You know, I just, I don't know that could go any. Either way. I played in that division for multiple teams and I wouldn't be surprised to see Indianapolis be a lot better this if they can get the quarterback play a little bit better. Other than that, I like your, I like your, your, your list here. And I wouldn't be surprised if this was the year that Lamar Jackson and the Ravens make it to the Super Bowl.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, we go to the nfc, which was harder for me, especially the NFC North. Listen, again, I'm going to go with Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield, Matt Stafford with a great defense. I'm kind of rolling the dice on Seattle. I do think their roster and coach are excellent. I love their gm. I thought two years in a row they've nailed the Draft. You're laughing and I bet you're laughing at my Bears, right?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Can you be a homer? And you're not even in Chicago yet. I mean, what the heck, man? I mean, either you love O line play. I mean, because they've done a great job of bolstering their own. I love what Ryan polls a little bit. I love what they're doing, but no. A wild card team. No, listen, you said it right.
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Jason McIntyre
You.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You. Last time you made the picks based on the quarterbacks. It's always good quarterback play in the playoffs. I mean, it's pretty much. That's the deal. Go back to last year. I would think the Steelers may be maybe the exception because they didn't have great quarterback play at the end of the year, but they had good quarterback play during the season. And. And I just. I think that's a huge question mark. I think that's a gamble. I'm calling you out as a homer there. Sorry, That's. Those are the facts. I wouldn't sleep on the Vikings. You know, it's a huge unknown. Right. But. But I guess. I don't know. I think the Vikings have so much confidence that it's giving me confidence. And I, you know, like you just said about coming. We were talking about the super bowl coming back down the mountain, that NFC eas, there's always a new winner. It feels like. Don't count out the Washington Commanders as a team that can win that division. And I'm probably just saying that because I love their quarterback so much and now I'm probably biased, but I would. I would kind of. I would say all that and then the other team you don't have in there, that usually it's hard to go worst to first, but I think San Francisco could be in that. In that NFC West. I think that's anybody's division as well.
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Jason McIntyre
Finally, I want to wrap it up. So the staff's giving me crap. I said, when Derek Carr came into the league and made four Pro Bowls with the dysfunctional Raiders, I'm like, this guy can play. I watched him at Fresno State. He was third in MVP voting early in his career. But I. Here's where I thought he had a chance to be a Philip Rivers, where we'd be given some hall of Fame votes at the end. But I. The difference is Philip Rivers had more function around him. And I look at Derek Carr and we all know that rookies need the right landing spot. I mean, Bo Nicks, Sean Payton, it probably doesn't look like that if he goes To Matt Eberfluss. Not. Not picking on him. But a defensive coach. I always thought Derek Carr and then he went with Dennis Allen and I'm like, I'm going to be wrong on this. It just didn't work. Do you think Derek Carr like a Sam Darnold? Had he gone to a great, functional offensive coach? Am I overstating it or is he a classic? He never got a fair shot in this league.
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Matt Hasselbeck
No, listen, I think, I think his teammates would say he's a Hall of Fame teammate. And I think he was. I think he was cooking with some of the offensive coaches that he had. You. I don't know. I have the years in front of me, but I feel like the Jon Gruden kind of that offense that he was in. Listen, when I think of Derek Carr, I think of one thing. It just comes. I can't get it out of my head how he left the Raiders. It bothered me. It bothered me big time. Like he got benched and then they told him, don't, don't even come to the building. And the coaching staff that did that, it bothered me because in my mind I was like, derek Carr is going to be a Raider way longer than you're going to be a Raider. And that bothered me. And I really, I feel like I watched him grow up as a leader. I saw the way he handled when there was the tragedy with the wide receiver who ended up going to jail. He handled the terrible situation with the head coach. You know, all these kinds of things. Like, I just, you know, it's unfortunate sometimes your body can't do for you what your brain and your heart want to do. And it sounds like that's similar case for him. But I enjoyed watching him play and I was never teammates with him. I don't know him, but I think when I hear his teammates talk about him, I understand what kind of teammate he was.
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Jason McIntyre
Matt Hasselbeck, great seeing you on a Monday, my friend, as always.
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Matt Hasselbeck
All right, smile more. Calling on Monday, I need you to smile more.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm heading to the Midwest. I feel just great. Okay, so I'm a bit of a Chicago homer. Hey, I said I was hoping Cooper flag went to Houston or San Antonio because I do think that changes. Can you imagine tonight? I'm just telling you, if San Antonio wins the lottery, they're gonna have the back to back rookie, a point guard, a big and now a wing.
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Colin Cowherd
They've won enough of these damn things. They don't need another one. You got Wemby, you got David Robinson. You got Tim Duncan.
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Jason McIntyre
Why would we consider another one? Can you imagine being okc that you've done a brilliant job. Sam Presti has done a brilliant job. You found Harden and you got KD in Westbrook and you get to a final and you never win it. And now Steph's old and LeBron's old and you are poised and the spurs get Wemby in one draft, Castle in the next and Cooper flag in the next, and you never win a title. I mean, they have been. Oklahoma City has been so well run and so smartly constructed. If you're an OKC fan, it doesn't matter if Houston wins it. We don't, we don't trust Houston necessarily. If San Antonio wins this. And by the way, I've always said San Antonio, no state tax. Max, they'll go get some good free agents. If San Antonio really, they've gotten so.
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Colin Cowherd
Many free agents, so many people want to move to San Antonio.
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Jason McIntyre
Very nice.
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Colin Cowherd
Beautiful you, you River Walk beautiful. What's next for you, Texas? You going to set up shop by Joe Rogan in Austin? What's going on? You're like, come on.
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Jason McIntyre
The very good lies.
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Colin Cowherd
San Antonio does not need any more number one picks. You know what does the nation's capital, which is under fire right now. Gross. Washington. I, you know, I grew up watch.
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Jason McIntyre
I watched the documentary. I'm not even going to get into it. How frustrating it was to watch. I watched a documentary. It's called Shooting Guards. It's the Gilbert arena story with his teammate. Oh, it's, it's, I, I, it's unbelievable that an organization would be so dysfunctional that they would allow that to happen. There's like 13 warning signs and the organization couldn't figure it out. Well, that's, I cannot, I cannot root for the Wizards.
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Colin Cowherd
Sometimes you turn an eye when you got a superstar Arenas.
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Jason McIntyre
What?
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, you want a fun fact? You know, I like to wear NBA jerseys just for fun. The first jersey I bought ever was Gilbert Arenas when he was in Washington. And I was, I would wear it around the New York City subways, going to men's league games. People be like, wizards. What are you a Wizards? It was a great talking point. I loved Gilbert Arenas. Man, that guy was really good. And then the gun incident.
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Jason McIntyre
It's a fascinating. But it was impossible to watch that and root for the Wizards. Just, I mean, the what they allowed on the team planes and in the locker room. It was maddening. I don't even listen. It's obviously, you have to be culpable. If you're a player. Yeah, they made bad decisions, but sometimes parents slash. That's the thing about the NBA. These kids come into the NBA at 18, 19 years old. I mean, they. They grow up in Louisiana, then they go to New York or la. Those kids need help. They need guidance. They need support. If 18 years old, you would have shipped me off to play basketball in New Orleans if I had bad guidance.
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Colin Cowherd
Don't forget the millions of dollars dripping out of your pockets. Okay?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Some Kwame Brown stories floating around about how Michael Jordan treated him after they took him number one overall. Go read that about Michael Jordan. Guy who punched his teammate in Chicago. Go see how he treated kwame Brown in D.C. killing the guy.
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Jason McIntyre
I cannot root for Charlotte or the Wizards. I can root for the Pelicans a little because they've done some smart things.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, really? What? Name. Name one. The way they branded Anthony Davis.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, the Brandon Ingram thing wasn't bad. We got some players. I can root for the Pelicans. I can root for almost everybody on this list.
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Colin Cowherd
What's wrong with the Hornets? Do you not remember the Hive and Alonzo Morning?
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Jason McIntyre
I don't.
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Colin Cowherd
Those starter jackets? Yeah, because they were super cool when I was a kid. Remember the starter jacket? The teal and purple or whatever?
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Jason McIntyre
No, I don't. Nobody cool wore them.
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Colin Cowherd
Maybe not in Portland. Wherever you were. Come on. Those things were the jam, trust me. Me, but they were awesome for like eight minutes in the 90s.
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Jason McIntyre
And so that. Therefore you're rooting for that.
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Colin Cowherd
That was my childhood, you know?
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Jason McIntyre
Come on, you need some therapy. You got to get on the couch. I don't think your childhood is. Was as redeemable as you keep telling us. It's the Herd.
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Colin Cowherd
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Steve Covino
Hey, it's Steve Covino.
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Rich Davis
And I'm Rich Davis.
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Steve Covino
And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.
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Rich Davis
You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app.
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Steve Covino
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?
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Rich Davis
We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.
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Steve Covino
We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time.
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Jason McIntyre
Time to discuss.
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Rich Davis
And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together. I mean, that says something, right?
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Steve Covino
So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.
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Rich Davis
I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio. Maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.
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Steve Covino
Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.
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Rich Davis
And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kovine on Rich.
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Jason McIntyre
Where?
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Rich Davis
Wherever you get your podcasts and of course, on social media.
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Steve Covino
That's Covino and Rich.
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Colin Cowherd
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It is One of my like people for years and years always said, oh I love the Home Run Derby. Means nothing has no impact on anything. I can go watch that at the park. You can watch tonight. If San Antonio or Houston win that puppy or Utah, Utah, San Antonio or Houston win that draft lottery, it's going to change things in this league. Giannis will probably be headed to one of those organizations. And I was saying I watched a documentary this weekend called Shooting Guards and I'm not saying the players aren't culpable. Javaris Crittenden or Gilbert Arenas. I'm not saying that. But in the NBA, because players enter the league at such an early age that I root for draft picks to go to better organizations. I don't care in the NFL because you spent four years in college. A lot of guys come into the NFL. They've got a fiance or they're married. You know, they've been on a college campus for four years. And by the way, just on average, most kids that get drafted in the NFL, I mean there's some red flags obviously, but by and large players know they have very short careers. They put their money away in the NBA, you know, you don't get hurt as much as football players come in kind of loosey goosey if they don't have the right guidance. They're, they're, you know, not, it's just not built, the NBA is not built to avoid busts. The NFL does everything they can to avoid busts. They get three and four years of tape. The players are older. It's still hard because you know that you have so many injuries in the NBA you're guessing you're getting 18 year olds. So we have a draft lottery tonight with and this only happens about once every four years that you get a player that everybody knows is going to be a star. He, he may not be a Wimby, but you may be getting Jason Tatum and he's only 18. He could have 12 to 14 great years. So I would like to see what I consider smart people when at Utah. Ryan Smith and Danny a really bright guys. I, I Daryl morey of the 76ers. Although that organization drives me nuts. I think San Antonio and Houston would be fascinating. Spurs going to have a couple of chances at it. God, if they win that thing tonight, I'm just telling you you're okay. See, you've done everything right for about a decade. If San Antonio wins that tonight, what a gut punch to the Thunder. J. Mack with the news.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
- [32:39]
Speaking of the Thunder, they got lucky last night because Jo ran out of gas. Colin, he is having a brutal last few games in this series. Once again could not throw it in the ocean yesterday. Seven of 22, Colin 33%. He's been going downhill since that amazing game one performance. And now we're tied at two in the series afterward. Here's Jokic talking about his struggles.
- [33:02]
J
It's a little bit of everything. You know, they're playing really good defense on me. They're really into my body. Hands, physical hell some. I think I missed like two, three open looks tonight. So it's a little bit of everything. You Know, they're shrinking the ball. They're shrinking the floor for me. They're having guy behind the defender. So it's a little bit of everything, you know, so it's. I need to do a better job, of course, but it's part of the game.
- [33:31]
Jason McIntyre
I don't think you can blame Jokic.
- [33:33]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, heck, no.
- [33:34]
Jason McIntyre
OKC is one of the few teams in the league that gives him problems. They got a lot of dudes.
- [33:41]
Colin Cowherd
It's less about him being a problem. He's struggling, no doubt.
- [33:44]
Jason McIntyre
He's tired, man, but he never struggles.
- [33:46]
Colin Cowherd
7Th. 7th game in 13 days for them, plus overtime.
- [33:50]
Jason McIntyre
I thought Charles Barkley was right. I thought the scheduling was unfair to have a late Friday game than an early Sunday for a much older team.
- [33:58]
Colin Cowherd
They started out with eight points, right?
- [34:00]
Jason McIntyre
No, I mean, I thought it was unfair. They look completely flat. But let's give OKC credit. They've got a number one, a number two, a great coach.
- [34:10]
Colin Cowherd
Give me a break.
- [34:10]
Jason McIntyre
Well, you don't look. Oh, I think I like him.
- [34:12]
Colin Cowherd
He's ideally a three. He can be a two.
- [34:14]
Jason McIntyre
Oh, you don't think he can be a two on a championship team?
- [34:16]
Colin Cowherd
Let me just finish out with Denver real quick. Your man Russell Westbrook, who you love to, like, make excuses for, he was minus 20 in 27 minutes yesterday. 2 of 12 shooting, fouled out. He was a disaster because he was trying to do too much. They have no bench.
- [34:30]
Jason McIntyre
He was caught up with him. Let me defend Westbrook because the team was out of gas. Westbrook saw it and was went, okay, I'm gonna go full bore. I think Westbrook saw and felt. And this is an older team, big bodies. They were shot.
- [34:45]
Colin Cowherd
I. I get that. But, like, Westbrook was terrible. They have no bench and you can't foul out. I don't know how they win this series at this point.
- [34:52]
Jason McIntyre
No, they're not going.
- [34:53]
Colin Cowherd
Could be Herculean in the next game and go for 40 and 20.
- [34:55]
Jason McIntyre
What's the next game?
- [34:57]
Colin Cowherd
But they have only one day off, so next game would be tomorrow night.
- [35:00]
Jason McIntyre
They're gonna get housed tomorrow.
- [35:01]
Colin Cowherd
They might get housed, and then they come back to Denver, maybe win force game seven. I don't know. It. The weird thing is I watch opc. I don't think they're a great team. Colin, do you?
- [35:09]
Jason McIntyre
I think they're really, really. I think they're like a little bit like a young Boston, two years away from Boston where they've got like eight guys.
- [35:16]
Colin Cowherd
One and a one. Eight.
- [35:18]
Jason McIntyre
After sga, there is no homegren's a.
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Colin Cowherd
Very strong body by everybody.
- [35:24]
Jason McIntyre
He's getting bodied by Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon is in a. One of the top six or seven athletes, athletes in the league.
- [35:30]
Colin Cowherd
You know, I, I want to send a note to Chad Holmgren. I go to Costco and get those protein shakes. Yeah, they're great. After you work out, give Chad Hogan like five of them a day. He's got to gain weight.
- [35:39]
Jason McIntyre
He's a kid. He's like 12, 22, 23 years old.
- [35:42]
Colin Cowherd
Come on, Puts.
- [35:44]
Jason McIntyre
Dude, I'm telling you right now, Aaron Gordon is a top six athlete in the league. Ben Carroll is one of the great athletes. I think he's. So you're putting him. I think this is a tough assignment for Holmgren. I think he's terrific.
- [35:56]
Colin Cowherd
He's a good player. I like him. Good young player, but pump the break. All right?
- [36:00]
Jason McIntyre
For his size. He's feisty.
- [36:02]
Colin Cowherd
He's feisty. Yeah. Let's go to my guy, Austin Reeves. Okay, listen, he had a rough series against Minnesota. Okay? Let's. We'll all admit that he was not spectacular. He's outplayed by Anthony Edwards, who's the.
- [36:13]
Matt Hasselbeck
Face of the league.
- [36:14]
Colin Cowherd
Well, you know Bill Plaschke, a sports writer out here for the LA Times.
- [36:17]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
- [36:17]
Colin Cowherd
This big pizz about why the Lakers should trade Austin Reeves for a rim running big man this summer. This is complete nonsense. I'm sorry, Colin. This is. I like. Plasky's had a lot of good pieces. This is garbage.
- [36:31]
Jason McIntyre
No, this is.
- [36:32]
Colin Cowherd
The Lakers, through 82 games, were the number three seed in the west, largely because Austin Reeves was spectacular when they were missing Anthony Davis. You cannot trade Austin Reeves for like a rim running big man. Stop it.
- [36:45]
Jason McIntyre
First of all, the Lakers value him, so they wouldn't just do it for a rim running big man. They would do it for a couple of pieces. But the reality is, because his salary isn't massive, it's all gotta work. I. I think you, because you're a Laker guy, do not understand how far away they are. Go look. And again, if Houston or San Antonio went or Utah win tonight, the Lakers might as well lower their season ticket price.
- [37:17]
Colin Cowherd
What are you doing? I'm just telling because. Okay, you're going over, but real quick. Anthony. Sorry, not Anthony Reeves. Austin reeves this year, 20 points per game, four rebounds, five assists. I mean, he's a borderline all star. You don't trade him for like Clint Capella or one of these ribbon running bigs. Don't do that. That would be foolish. Pelinka pushes the right buttons. I think he's gonna stand down on Austin. You and I disagree.
- [37:41]
Jason McIntyre
Now.
- [37:41]
Colin Cowherd
Here we go. This is just breaking in the NFL. In the last hour, boy, Trey Hendrickson has ticked off Colin, the Bengals pass rusher, their leader in sacks. One of the great players on that team said, there has been no communication between my camp and the organization post draft. The offers prior to the draft did not reflect the vision we shared and were promised last offseason if I continue to play at a high level. This is Trey Hendrickson talking about the cheap Bengals. You have banged on them for at least two years now. Yeah, about this phony organization. I'm just telling you there's a major whiff of fraudulence in Cincinnati and they're gonna botch this Hendrickson thing badly.
- [38:23]
Jason McIntyre
Well, it's an offensive league. I. My belief is if you're gonna pay, anybody on the defensive side, pay for a great pass rusher or disruptor. So you pay for Chris Jones. Jones, you pay for Max Crosby. You pay for Trey Hendrickson. So I would not pay for a number two wide receiver. I would pay for Burrow, Jamar Chase, Trey Hendrickson, and eventually a left tackle.
- [38:48]
Colin Cowherd
So what are they doing telling him, oh, hey, you keep playing. Hey, who's got the most sacks in the league in the last two years? Look. Look it up, guys. And they're like, well, we can't. We can't splurge. By the way, they went and drafted his potential replacement, the kid out of A. M. Who had a whopping four and a half sacks. Sacks in his college career. Not one game. His career. He's now holding outcome. He's like, wait, I don't want this contract. It's getting ugly in Cincinnati. A certain producer on the show is very upset about.
- [39:13]
Jason McIntyre
The good news for Cincinnati is Cleveland's a mess and Pittsburgh doesn't have a quarterback. I mean, they're lucky. Cincinnati. I'm. I'm picking them as a playoff team simply because offensive coach, great weapons, Joe Burrow. And they'll eventually, I think, sign him.
- [39:28]
Colin Cowherd
If Joe Burrow gets hurt again this year, can we call him Glass Joe Once again?
- [39:31]
Jason McIntyre
Let's not. There's no reason to predict an injury. Let's hope he doesn't get hurt. All right, J. Mac with the news.
- [39:39]
Colin Cowherd
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line.
- [39:43]
Jason McIntyre
Pickens, the former Steeler, is ripping the Steelers. That's next.
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Colin Cowherd
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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So there's a difference between being cheap and just having some financial realities that don't play in your favor. So George Pickens is the talented wide receiver that left Pittsburgh and they traded him for a third round pick to go to Dallas. Dallas. So Cincinnati's owner is cheap. Pittsburgh will pay their stars. They paid Big Ben. They, they paid a Heinz Ward Harrison, T.J. watt. Pittsburgh's not cheap, but it was I was sitting there this morning thinking about major League Baseball standings where you know, all your league leaders have a lot of money. I think in the NFL and I've, I've talked to my, a couple friends. You think everybody's got the same money. Money. The Rams, who have maybe the richest owner in the sport, Stan Kroenke. The Rooneys are the second poorest owners in the sport. And the Rams have become the model of the league with the Chiefs and the Steelers feel outdated. They're literally opposite franchises. We put this on the screen. The Rams and the Steelers are polar opposites. The Rams have a young offensive coach, Steelers old defensive coach. The Rams have an elite veteran quarterback. The Steelers have mediocre young quarterbacks. Rams spend their money on offense, Steelers on defense. One has no interest in head cases. They don't draft them. They take them off their board. The Steelers draft and try to develop dysfunction before moving off them. The Rams have eight Playoff wins in eight years. The Steelers have none. So the Steelers, in my opinion, don't spend their money wisely. That said, they have taken care of a Minka, Fitzpatrick, a TJ Watt. They've taken care. They just spend too much money on defense, not enough on offense. They're tone deaf. But another reality is the Rams now are going and everybody goes. Well, the Steelers, they never have a losing record. What are your standards? I'm sorry. The Rams are now, they've got plans for a $10 billion headquarters. They're going to make Woodland Hills, Beverly Hills. It is unbelievable, the plans. The Rams have, the Steelers, the Rooneys.
- [45:57]
Colin Cowherd
They don't have that money.
- [45:58]
Jason McIntyre
So where do you think free agents want to go? So Pittsburgh doesn't even have the best stadium in its hometown. PNC park, where the baseball Pirates play is the gem. So this is the difference where you think all these NFL owners. The Rams are building something that will be so far ahead of the league because they have original owner and they can pay, you know, like, like again, the Steelers paid Tomlin 15 million, 16 million bucks. I don't think the Steelers are cheap. I think Cincinnati's cheap. I think the Raiders, you know, until they got some money infused into the organization about three years ago, they were cheap. But I think the reality of what Pittsburgh has become is there is a gap in this league not just in quarterbacks and coaches, there is a gap financially in this league and Pittsburgh staring at it is there that you know, in the off season when you got to write those checks, you got to have money in the bank. And the Rooneys are old school owners. So the, and by the way, the city Pirates are an embarrassment. Penguins haven't made the playoffs in several years. The Steelers, no playoff wins in eight years. I don't think it's all ownership. The fans love the teams. I don't think there's a lot of money. And I think what's happening in sports and you're seeing this, you're seeing this everywhere in society. That gap, gap. Even Rob Manfred, last time he was on my show was just exhausted when I asked him about the gap between the Dodgers and everywhere else. I mean, the Yankees were always making more money than even the Red Sox or the Dodgers or the Giants. The gap now between the Dodgers lineup and the Rockies. The Rockies are a Triple A baseball team. The Dodgers are an all star team in the big. So I think in football we don't talk about this enough.
- [47:39]
Colin Cowherd
Enough.
- [47:39]
Jason McIntyre
Arizona financially is not in the same ballpark as the Rams. The Steelers Aren't now you can be Green Bay and you don't have an owner. Now Green Bay, unlike Pittsburgh, has always leaned offensive coach and taking care of the quarterback. So I, I think the packers or the are the model of what a small market franchise should be. Mark Murphy, very good front office, don't have a meddling owner, don't have a ton of extra money, don't attract free agents, but draft and develop well and are always ahead of the league at quarterback. So, you know, some of it is the Steelers aren't spending their money wisely. More on that Steeler Pickens trade to Dallas. Mark Caboli, a very smart reporter in Pittsburgh, significant locker room guys for all you cowboy fans got fed up with Pickens antics quickly turned off by him. So veteran players were not into Pickens who got shipped to Dallas. Some felt, says Mark Caboli, it would be counterproductive to keep him around. They felt the locker room could turn toxic. So he was bad and getting worse. Not many teams were interested in trading for George Pickens, making it difficult for the Steelers to get market value. Yet the Cowboys gave up a third. They probably could have got him for a fourth or a fifth. Not many were broken up with the organization that Pickens got traded. So that's what Dallas is getting. So again, I'll give Pittsburgh credit for this. They're always pretty good and they do move off dysfunction. Why they drafted, I don't know. Here's Matt Hasselbeck earlier on. Dak Prescott now inheriting a player that comes with baggage from Pittsburgh.
- [49:35]
Matt Hasselbeck
If you're Dak, you get a. You get a wide receiver. Wide receivers can be a little bit of high maintenance. Comes with the talent level. There's a lot of talent at wide receiver. George Pickens in this case has a ton of talent, huge upside. You give it. You give him a chance. Because ultimately the chemistry between quarterback and a playmaker, I mean that's. You could win or lose two or three games just on that alone.
- [49:58]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Well, I have him finishing third ahead of Cleveland. J. Mac Wednesday is. So tonight's the NBA draft lottery. I love it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah.
- [50:08]
Jason McIntyre
Tomorrow, Tuesday you're going to see all sorts of leaks coming out on the NFL schedule. They'll start east and they'll move west. There'll be leaks everywhere. Expect certain organizations. The Giants have always leaked. Leaked. Certain organizations leak it to get some pub.
- [50:24]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, there's some stuff starting to float around, but we're gonna wait for confirmation because people are wrong. We know this, right, about the schedule. There's a team that you and I have been disagreeing on for a while. And I'm just telling you right now, Colin, when you look at the opponents, it's a cakewalk once they sign Brock Purdy, I. You will change your tune on the Niners once the schedule comes comes out. I promise you that. You're down on the Niners. You don't have them winning 10 games or sniffing 10 games.
- [50:52]
Jason McIntyre
Well, they're going to go 02 against the Rams and McVan Stafford, much better defense.
- [50:57]
Colin Cowherd
If you go back like five years, I think they're like 70 wins against them. But whatever. I think the Niners are going to be the team you're going to flip on here this week. That would be my biggest guess. And I think if you're looking for number two, the Bears, who you love, that schedule is daunting, especially on the road. Keep an eye on the Bears.
- [51:16]
Jason McIntyre
So what's interesting is you're giving the Niners credit despite the fact that many believe the Rams are a Super bowl team and that Seattle and Arizona had two of the best three drafts yet. You're tough on Chicago because their division's so hard. What's Minnesota ever won? What's Detroit ever won?
- [51:36]
Colin Cowherd
Games last year. I mean, they were the best.
- [51:38]
Jason McIntyre
Last time I watched Detroit play, they got smoked at home by Washington.
- [51:41]
Colin Cowherd
Who's got the better coach? Who, Minnesota or Chicago? Obviously Minnesota.
- [51:46]
Jason McIntyre
Let's take a deep breath.
- [51:47]
Colin Cowherd
One's never been a head coach before.
- [51:49]
Jason McIntyre
Well, let's just. He. Let's give him a shot. Let's be a little positive.
- [51:52]
Colin Cowherd
Okay.
- [51:53]
Jason McIntyre
You said I was being grumpy earlier today. I'm being positive.
- [51:56]
Colin Cowherd
He's right. You. You were being a little angry. Let me ask you this. Who do you have more faith in next year, J.J. mcCarthy or Caleb Williams?
- [52:04]
Jason McIntyre
Caleb Williams.
- [52:05]
Colin Cowherd
Why?
- [52:05]
Jason McIntyre
He's a better player, actually. He threw the ball down the field in college and had to carry a terrible offensive line and a limited roster.
- [52:14]
Colin Cowherd
I didn't say who's better at backyard football. I said NFL football.
- [52:17]
Jason McIntyre
No. Caleb Williams. Every year, two at USC in Chicago, battle lines, running for his life. What did the Bears fix? The O line. JJ McCarthy has thrown over 30 times once admission, MI. I have no idea if he's good. They've never asked him to win games. They asked him not to lose them. I mean, so. I mean, again, it's hard. Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, to his credit, said, I don't know if this guy can play, but we're gonna give him a fighting chance. Drew Dolman at center Joe Tuney. Apparently this Boston College tackle is.
- [52:55]
Colin Cowherd
Oh he looks dominant already, huh?
- [52:57]
Jason McIntyre
He has been dominant in the three.
- [52:58]
Colin Cowherd
Day rookie camp May and he looks dominant against rookie last week.
- [53:03]
Jason McIntyre
I'm just saying keep your eye on Chicago.
- [53:06]
Colin Cowherd
A little homer action there huh?
- [53:07]
Jason McIntyre
Do not believe journalism is how I see it.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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