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What a day. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Cap applies. Learn more@americanexpress.com thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports radio. All right, welcome in. It's hour two live in Los Angeles. It's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thank you. Making us part of your day. Did I tell you this morning I got a call, I was asleep from some Boston radio station that wanted to talk about Jason Tatum? Like, yeah, I'm, I'm not, I'm probably not going to do that at 4:30 in the morning. I'm not going to do it at 4:30 in the afternoon, but I'm definitely not doing it at 4:30am did you.
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Jason McIntyre
Actually wake up and take the call?
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Colin Cowherd
I heard my phone buzzing, which I should have had it.
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Jason McIntyre
You know, do not disturb a little.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I don't, you know, I get up at 4:30 every morning anyway, so.
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Jason McIntyre
It wasn't that couple meatballs from Boston.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, whatever, you don't need to call them meatballs. I mean, that's trained professional.
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Jason McIntyre
They're just blindly calling you on your phone at 4:30 in the morning.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I, yeah, it's not how I would produce a show, but, you know, to each their own. But I, you know, the point being is we all, I, I, I've said this again. I think Jason Tatum's great. I think he's a Hall of Famer, but you're trying to put him into the LeBron, Steph Messi, Ronaldo Mbappe class. And that is so small that, I mean, Derek Jeter is great. A Rod was a superstar. But, but my mom, my late mom didn't like sports. She knew who Ken Griffey was and a Rod was, she didn't know who Derek Jeter was. Wait, that, that a Rod was a star? Jeff Gordon in NASCAR is a star. Tiger's a star. Scottie Scheffler's just great. Scotty Scheffler's unbelievable. Tiger woods is an icon. Polarizing. I knew, I can think of Tiger woods. Close my eyes. I can see the shirt he's wearing. I can see the goatee, the shirt. I know it's controversies. I know it's, people get this. Sports fans get it confused. They think everybody's a superstar. Superstars are like, I mean, there, there's always fewer than you think. Always fewer than you. Travis Kelce, because of Taylor Swift, is closer to it than players that are better than him. It's just, it's very rare. You gotta have multiple national commercials. You have to be sort of global. Doesn't mean you're not great. I want to talk about something quick here, though. And so the 49. Tim Kawagami has been covering the Niners forever. He writes for the Athletic, but one of the better Bay Area writers, national writers in the country for a long time. And he was talking about Debo and iuk, and he says the Niners with IUK have a little buyer's remorse now.
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Ryan Day
They did not like the price that they paid for them. I think it was, let's go for it. We're going for the super bowl from the football side. And I think the negotiators never felt good about that number, ever. 30 million a year. I'll just say the general theme here is 4niners top not being happy with those deals, not being happy with a.
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Colin Cowherd
Lot of deals, not being happy with.
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Ryan Day
The money they've paid. As John lynch talked about in Indianapolis.
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Colin Cowherd
Top three, four in the league for.
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Ryan Day
The last few years. It's fine in, I think, Jed York's mind if you're winning a Super Bowl. So if you're at least getting there.
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Colin Cowherd
And they went 6 and 11 last year, here's my only criticism before we get to Ryan Day. I understand NFL teams reaching on quarterbacks. That is not extravagant. Everybody needs one and they're worth 10 points if you get it right. That's like reaching on a new home in a good school district. You want your kids to be safe. You want them in a good school district. You reach on a home. That's not extravagant. Reaching on a receiver is more like, dad can't afford it but buys a new motorcycle. That's a little risky. That's a little ego to me. I think too many GMs are playing fantasy football with wide receivers now. Do they matter? Yes. But in the professional football world, it is a coach quarterback league. So I think they have overspent on wide receivers. And I say that knowing, having worked with John lynch and covered him, I think he's a brilliant guy with that. Ryan Day, the Ohio State Buckeyes national champs, favored next year as well as joining us live. You know, I was thinking about this this morning. I was thinking about this years ago. Mike Krzyzewski, when they did the one and done, he didn't like it. And then I asked him about it and he goes, I didn't like it. And then three years in, I realized I was losing to all these one and done guys. So maybe it's time for me not to be stubborn. Your sport, Ryan, has become incredibly transient. I mean, just what it is. Was there a moment when it all came down the hill? Transfer portal nil. Was there A moment where you said, this is a, I don't know if I, like, this is it. We're gonna just do high school guys, or did you buy into it 10 minutes in?
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Ryan Day
I mean, I, you know, there's still things going on that I throw my hands up right now. There's so many changes I think about, you know, the nil, the transfer portal, the conference realignment with 18 teams. So now, you know, in the Big Ten, we travel to the west coast and you have the playoff change. Like, just, just those four things. Those are just four that have all happened. Those are like major, major changes. So you just had to be comfortable being uncomfortable in, in solving it and getting it, because nobody cares. Like, there's all kinds of things that happened, you know, in the last month or so that, you know, after our game, we can get into later, but nobody cares about. Like, what matters is putting your talent, you know, talent acquisition on the field and putting together and putting a team together. So as much those things have changed, to me, I felt with this team, it was about the kind of timeless principles of hard work and sacrifice and loyalty and resilience that separated us.
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Colin Cowherd
So I, I, I'm a friend of Chip Kelly, and he, you know, he's told me about your friendship for years and years. And I said, I said, I predicted before the season, I said, ohio State's going to lose at Austin. I've been to too many games there. You can't hear yourself think. I don't think anybody in the country is going to beat this Oregon team at Austin. You got close. I said, ohio State's going to beat them. They're going to meet. They're going to meet later. And Ohio State's got better personnel and Ohio State's going to beat him. But one of the things I theorized, I said, Chip Kelly is a real advantage that you're not going to notice until the playoff. He has. He knows how to stagger these games because college football now feels like pro football. You can lose late in the season. It's not a death note. It's about staggering. It's about slowly unveiling. Take our audience into the value of Chip Kelly in that playoff that I can't see. You know, guys like me can't see. But inside your building, the additive value that Chip gave you, that had a little NFL feel to it.
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Ryan Day
Well, yeah. Well, I think like you said, when you're Talking about now 16, 16 games in a long season with a playoff format at the end of the year, it starts off with Even this time of year, making decisions on how you want to proceed. Like, for instance, we decided to huddle an offense this year. We had never done that. Certainly Chip hadn't done that a lot, you know, with his background and tempo. But. But that decision was a huge decision and that, you know, we wanted to continue to evolve as the season went on. But. But then, you know, really have our best football for the end of the year. And I think having the NFL experience, you know, I think a lot of teams would tell you, you know, in the NFL, in. In September, there's, you know, sort of the preseason October, they're finding their identity, and then by the time they get to November and December, like now, now they're going to play for. For. For championships, and everything's on the line. And I wouldn't say that that's the way it is in college right now, but it's trending towards that. And having somebody that's been in that position before, certainly with his experience in the NFL, it made a big difference.
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Colin Cowherd
So you have a player, you have two players. And I had said this, I had an NFL general manager tell me a month ago that if Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs were in this class, they'd probably be the second and third guys taken. They're unbelievable players. And you guys have done a really good job. And I think this is really hard because especially now, you're paying players that you have these superstar players, and yet it felt like such a team. You felt like such a team. Your sideline, your body language. Is it harder when you have, you know, Ohio State's one of four programs, maybe three, that gets those guys? When you have, literally NFL players, they're just not eligible yet. You're paying them. You're not paying everybody big money in the NFL. Everybody's doing fine in college. There's a little gap. Is that hard for you to massage as a coach?
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Ryan Day
Well, I think it starts with the identification. I mean, there's a lot of NFL players that, you know, aren't at Ohio State, you know, that. That maybe just aren't the right fit for.
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Colin Cowherd
For who we are.
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Ryan Day
And so we try to do, you know, a great job of identifying, you know, the right people that fit us. You know, there's a lot of great players out there, but what, you know, Ohio State's not for everybody. And, you know, we try to make sure that we bring in the right folks that fit our culture, because, again, like you said, these guys are making money now. So it's now even more important to Bring in the right fit and then what you, what you say to them in the recruiting process, you, you better follow through with, because they can literally walk out the door tomorrow if they wanted to.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Ryan Day
So, you know, it's really forcing everybody to really, I think, follow through with what they talk about on the front end. But then these guys still want to be held accountable, you know, and coaching them hard and giving them life lessons and, and building trust within the building is very, very important. And I think, you know, our fan base and being in Columbus and what comes with that, you know, our guys understand that there's a big obligation when you come to Ohio State, what comes with it. So, you know, the fact that we were able to overcome some things this year and then prevail in the back end certainly is going to, you know, carry over into the season.
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Colin Cowherd
You've got a bunch of guys that are going to be very good. I mean, you're really a factory now. You've become the best. You know, you guys have done a little bit. Alabama did so Saban was a def. By the time he left, Alabama was known for wide receivers and quarterbacks. Ohio State in my lifetime was running backs. Oh, linemen, linebackers. And now it's. It's wide receiver. You. And I've said this, I told Urban Meyer this once. I said, when you have receivers as good as Ohio State, you got to feed them. And I said, I think it can hurt your run game and physicality. How do you simultaneously build power football? It's easy for hardball with the Chargers now, by the way, because they don't have superstar receivers. Once you have four of them, is it hard for you as a coach? Okay, we want to be explosive, but we want a little 1985 Ohio State too. Is that hard for you?
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Ryan Day
Oh, I think it's a great conversation, Colin. I think it's, it's a great point because when you're in the Big Ten, like, you've got to play smash mouth football, but then you also got to be able to go out to the Rose bowl or down to, you know, the Cotton bowl and play Texas and Oregon and attract me, you know, and so that's the combination of things that we're constantly trying to make sure we balance out. And the only way you can do that is if you have unselfish guys. So, like, you know, to have Trayvon Henderson and Quintean junkins together in the backfield together and let young players see that their unselfishness and willing to sacrifice being the guy or A number of carries so that they could play really, really fast and really physical down the stretch. Made a big difference, I think.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Ryan Day
And the only way that that happens is if guys are unselfish. And to your point, you know, if you have selfish guys who just want the ball and don't understand how important is to establish the run, it's not going to work. And vice versa, you know, if you have, you know, running backs who want certain number of carries, when the ball needs to get thrown out to some of our receivers, it isn't going to work. So buying into the team is critical.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, there's been a couple moments in my life when I had my first child that I literally was floating. Like, I didn't feel like. I'm like, what's happening to me? I got salty discharge. I'm crying, you know, and so we. You have had that, too. We've all had personal moments. But I want you to pivot now to a professional moment, because there is a difference between work and home, even though we love both. Take me back to the moment you knew you were going to be national champion. Who was the first person you thought of?
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Ryan Day
Well, for me, it was my father. And I didn't really make this public before, but since you asked me, I'm going to answer the question. I lost my father on January 20th when I was nine years old. And I saw when the schedule came out that the national championship game was on the same day that I lost my father. And so, you know, I just knew that he was with me that day, and that was the first guy that I thought of.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, that's a great story. We've said this before. You know, you're at a good program when you get heat for losing occasionally to Jim Harbaugh. Georgia. Right now, it's the best program, in my opinion. It's the best program in college football. Nil, transfer, portal, coaching, destination. It's Ohio State. Do you ever, ever just get to go for a walk in the park in Columbus, put a baseball cap on and not get noticed? Or do you sometimes feel like, man, this is a lot. It's a lot. Coaching the Buckeyes in Ohio State. How's that land for you?
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Ryan Day
It is a lot. It is, but that's what you signed up for. And I remember when the first press conference, I was there with Urban, and a lot of people just kind of asked, how do you follow up Coach Meyer? A legend. And what if you don't do this and what if you don't do that? And I just kind of had the mindset of, what if we do. What an opportunity to be at a place where there's just such great tradition. And my wife, that night, we're on the bed together, I had three young kids. Knowing that we were probably the first family to go through this with young kids, you know, going through elementary school and now into junior high and high school. And she kind of cried and she said, this is the last time our family will be normal. And I didn't even understand at the time, but she did and she was right. But. But, you know, it's.
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Jason McIntyre
It's.
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Ryan Day
It's. It's part of the job. It's part of the obligation. And I think after this game, so many people have come up to me across the country when I've traveled to different places, and the first thing they say is, thank you. Just thank you for what you did this year. And they tell the stories of where they've been across the country or who they were when they watched the run that we went on. And it just makes you realize that Ohio State football is bigger than any one of us and the obligation that we have. And it's just a, you know, it's an honor to be the head coach at Ohio State.
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Colin Cowherd
I love all. I appreciate you giving these stories to us because you don't have to, and you're opening up and it means a lot. Finally, a big thank you from me for playing Texas. So Ohio State. A lot of programs won't do this, and it drives me nuts, you guys. I remember when Pete Carroll, you scheduled the Trojans in la, you know, Ohio State played them at home, and a lot of coaches won't do this. And, you know, you have just made a point. Let's, you know, I don't mind the Youngstown State. I don't mind that, you know, in state Ohio. But when you, when you. It's one thing to make a commitment. Three weeks before that game, are you going to be thinking, you know, we could have played Texas State at Arlington, it would have been. I mean, that's a hell of an opening game. You're going to lose some sleep when that thing's two weeks out?
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Ryan Day
Well, I think it's 173 days from today. So, yeah. To say I'm going to lose sleep. Yeah, you're darn right I'm going to lose some sleep. I. I think a couple things. I think, one, it allows you, you know, an opportunity to figure out where you're at early in the season. And. But. But I Think it's important moving forward with the playoff system that, like in the Big Ten, in the sec and as we start to work through this, that we do get automatic qualifiers and a certain amount of automatic qualifiers. If we don't, then you're never going to see these games scheduled, to your point.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right. That's right. Yeah.
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Ryan Day
So I think that's critical if we want these games, which I think we should have these games.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Ryan Day
And we need to make sure that that happens because I think it's really, really good for college football.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh. I mean, I think the loss at Oregon, my takeaway is that was going to easily be the harshest environment you would play in, that I didn't care what you did the rest of the year. I don't care if you're. That was good. No, I mean, I covered Oregon. That is as loud as any football stadium I've ever been in, NFL or college. So in a way, you look at it at the time and it stinks. Flying back to Columbus, but it paid dividends. Later, your guys saw what real duress is like in Ohio State. You don't face a lot of that. You don't. You know, I mean, you know, it's just. It's just. I feel like the football gods. You should have won this year, and I love the way you won. And I want to thank you for coming on, giving us a little insight into your life and. Impossible not to root for. Ryan, thank you so much.
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Ryan Day
No, I appreciate it, Colin. Much respect, man.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. Great football coach. And I really believe this is. I think if you count transfer, portal, nil, coaching, home environment, budget, focus. I. I think Ohio State, this moment, is the best football program in America. Now there, it's always like, you know, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, you know, it ebbs and flows. It never lasts forever. But that's. That is a tough job. That is a. You do not escape. I mean, you can. When you coach Ohio State, you can take your family on a trip to Florence, Italy, and there'll be Buckeyes over there, too. Appreciate that. So, J. Mac got. You got your. Got a Jason Tatum. Tomorrow's headlines today. Yeah, it's. What's really unfair is I am just a journalist. And when you're a journalist and you're just laying out data and people are attacking you, you know, that's not. I got into this business. Who.
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Jason McIntyre
Who are these people? I'm not attacking you.
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Colin Cowherd
No.
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Jason McIntyre
Do you feel attacked?
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Colin Cowherd
People in Worcester are up in arms.
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Jason McIntyre
How many people listening to the show can point out Worcester on a map.
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Colin Cowherd
I used to live by it. So did you. Really? Of course I lived in Connecticut. I'm in Boston six times a year because of certain Worcester.
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Jason McIntyre
Like what?
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Colin Cowherd
Like a cultural crossroads guy town. Oh, people come up to you and you like produce how you like these apples and they punch you right in the forehead. That's what Wooster's about. No messing around in Wooster.
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Jason McIntyre
My kind of town, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
Trust me.
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Jason McIntyre
Hell yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Week for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of their era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Ryan Day
Peja 5 Dirk Ford. Peja is a link.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, okay.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm mad him.
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Ryan Day
I left him off my list, but I still like my list.
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Jason McIntyre
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
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Colin Cowherd
That's so tough.
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Jason McIntyre
That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely. Love it. Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters. When you have a scouting report and.
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Ryan Day
You'Re on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with anytime you're wide open. Like, you might as well just count.
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Jason McIntyre
That and get on back on defense. Listen to Goat G O T E Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's really interesting. In the trade deadline, the Lakers and the warriors got really good and really fascinating. But you know, there's this, this thing because the ratings for the NBA, the outside of the NFL, everything in this country is cyclical. In the wnba, because of Caitlin Clark, is now really popular. And college football this year, Texas, Ohio State. Big brands, playoff, popular baseball, Yankees, Dodgers, Mets. All of a sudden the ratings are exploding. Best in a decade outside of the NFL, it matters. And right now in the NBA, when people say nobody likes the NBA, you know who likes it? The biggest city in the country, New York, the second biggest city, Los Angeles, the third biggest city. Chicago's got a lousy team and they lead the NBA in attendance for the fourth straight year. Philadelphia, Dallas, San Francisco, Boston, you know, where people live and stuff. Like big cities really like the NBA. And right now, New York's energized. Chicago's bad and energized. La, San Francisco, Boston, you know, I mean, you go to New York right now, it's a big deal. It is a big deal. So. And I think what's happened is the NBA, when Michael Jordan retired, he was. It's hard to explain to somebody in their twenties how big Michael Jordan was. It was like in my lifetime, Tiger Woods Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Pele, Messi. There's been like four or five. Like, I mean, just like, like Oprah level. Like everybody in the world knows who it is, right? You usually get that with like prime ministers and presidents, like, and the NBA outside of Michael lost 50% of its ratings. It's not because people didn't like the NBA. They didn't like who the NBA was telling everybody was the face of the league. And you've tried to make Ja Morant in tiny Memphis the face of the league. He wasn't mature enough. Zion and tiny New Orleans. He's the face of the league. He wasn't mature enough. Jokic, he doesn't want to be in Denver ant Minnesota. So the reality is LeBron and Steph are still the faces of the league and that's why they get the highest ratings. And now you've energized both of them with stars next to them. So it's outside of the NFL, every sport. I thought the college football got incredibly regional for about 10 years. Clemson, Georgia, Bama and nobody Denver west, they weren't watching the games. So that's why I was all for the Pac 12's best four teams going into the Big Ten and Texas, Oklahoma going into the SEC. So you get sort of an NFL vibe for it. But it's, I mean, I'll give you an example. Cleveland's a small market relative to like the NBA big markets. We've cared about Cleveland two times in my life. The time Michael Jordan beat him on the Craig Elo shot and the time LeBron won a title. They're arguably the best team in the league right now. They're not going to move a number. That's just the reality of every sport in this country outside of the NFL where if Jacksonville played in a Super bowl, it still get over 100 million people to watch. It's like in, in England, everybody's going to watch the English Premier League. It doesn't matter who's playing. It's always going to be popular. The other sports, like tennis can be really popular. If you've got a superstar playing and he hails from the UK so you know, it just. I don't buy anything's dead forever. I don't buy its politics. The minute you get better players in and better stories. Americans love the journey and the story, it's back to being interesting. When you get Boston potentially and New York in the Eastern Conference finals and if you got Lakers warriors in the Western Conference finals, are you kidding me? It would be really really great for all of us, not just the NBA. J. Mac with the news.
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Ryan Day
No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, Colin, this first story is a little bit strange. Eagles are riding high, right? Jalen Hurts a superstar. Eagles win the Super Bowl. But now they're starting to move off players. And Darius Slay was released. Right. In an attempt to save some salary cap space since the news of his release. Slay, AKA Big Play Slay, made a recent podcast appearance and kind of omitted a certain quarterback from the elite group.
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Ryan Day
The elite goes to the top four guys, you know what I'm saying? That's how I do elites. And like, elite for me, in the quarterback world is Joe Burrow. Mahomes.
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Colin Cowherd
Dang Lamar.
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Ryan Day
Yeah. And. And Josh Allen.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that. That. That's right.
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Jason McIntyre
No, it's. It's not.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I forgot.
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Jason McIntyre
Jalen hurts.
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Colin Cowherd
Jalen Hurts is not in that group.
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Jason McIntyre
He is certainly gone. He went to the Super Bowl a couple years ago, nearly. Nearly won it. Outplayed Mahomes, and then now beat down the Chiefs in Mahomes head to head dominated a Chiefs defense that you love.
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Colin Cowherd
What GM in the league? What GM in the league? If given the four guys on the screen and Jalen Hurts would take Hertz.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, I'm not saying you take Hertz over them, but he's in that group.
- [28:42]
Colin Cowherd
No, he's. He's not.
- [28:44]
Jason McIntyre
Them's fighting words here.
- [28:45]
Colin Cowherd
Cowherd.
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Jason McIntyre
I will defend Jalen Hurts. I'm just telling you, man, he's. Where's the flaw in his game?
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Colin Cowherd
What's.
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Jason McIntyre
What's the problem? What's the weakness?
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Colin Cowherd
He is not, as Greg Cosell tells you the film says he had 18 regular season touchdown passes. He is not a great pocket quarterback.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, so what's the. I mean, Jim Darnold had 35. Does that mean he's elite?
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Colin Cowherd
No, it doesn't. The four guys that are elite are beyond just production. They can carry bad O lines. Bad.
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Jason McIntyre
Joe Burrow couldn't carry a bad team to the playoffs.
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Colin Cowherd
Got to the super bowl with. What's he done since?
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Jason McIntyre
Oh, boy, he could carry. Listen, obviously Burrow's great. I'm not. I'm not knocking him. Those four are superstars. I think Hertz has reached that group.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't.
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Jason McIntyre
So who would you have as five?
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Colin Cowherd
It doesn't matter. Darius Slay said these are the elite guys in the league, and that's who I would.
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Jason McIntyre
Darius like just released.
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Colin Cowherd
That doesn't mean he doesn't know who the elite Quarterback.
- [29:39]
Jason McIntyre
Well, he's clearly upset that he got cut because Jalen Hurts got paid. Everybody would be.
- [29:45]
Colin Cowherd
If I got cut here, I'd be upset. It's okay to be upset.
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Jason McIntyre
So the other part that's a little weird is this isn't the first guy on the team who's had some issues, shall we say, with Jalen hurts.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, A.J.
- [29:55]
Jason McIntyre
Brown.
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Colin Cowherd
Remember Jay? You know this. I like this about Jalen Hurts. Let me tell you something I like about Jalen Hurts.
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Jason McIntyre
Positive. Okay, let's hear it.
- [30:02]
Colin Cowherd
He doesn't care if you love him. It's a great point. You know who does? Jason Tatum.
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Jason McIntyre
I thought you could say Jason McIntyre.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I mean, Jalen Hurt. Troy Aikman wasn't losing any sleep because he had to rip a wide receiver's head off and yell at an oc. Troy Aikman didn't lose. Tom Brady never lost sleep ripping Josh McDaniels or yelling at receivers to get open. Peyton Manning's yelling at one of his best friends. Jeff. Saturday. That's what leadership looks like.
- [30:31]
Jason McIntyre
Leadership looks different for everybody. Colin, you. You're the leader of this radio show. Number one show in the country. You're not yelling at people and cursing.
- [30:37]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, there have been.
- [30:38]
Jason McIntyre
I've never witnessed it in the two plus years.
- [30:40]
Colin Cowherd
That's because you show up late and you don't go to our meeting.
- [30:42]
Jason McIntyre
Stop it. I'm on the call. I mean, I can hear everything. You're not ripping anybody. Leadership looks different to everyone. And I. Just because Jalen Hurts isn't barking at guys like Brady or Peyton doesn't mean he's not a superstar.
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Colin Cowherd
I like quarterbacks who don't need to be everybody's best friend. I'm totally cool with that. Leadership is doing uncomfortable things. If you want to be comfortable, that's the substitute teacher. Sometimes the teacher has to give you an F. Has it makes you go to summer school. The substitute teacher never tells you to do that. The teacher does.
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Jason McIntyre
Boy, at this rate, we're never going to get Jalen Hurts or Jason Tatum on the sofa. He's not coming to the show. Not the way you're treating him. Next story, Colin, is the Knicks loss last night? Oh, no. Is it the Knicks? No, no, I'm sorry. It's the Raiders. The Raiders are a hunt for a new quarterback. They bounced Gardner Minshew and Aiden Oconnell's not the guy. They were all in on Stafford, but he ended up staying with the Rams. Diana Rossini says the Raiders are exploring veteran quarterback options and they are willing to entertain the possibility of trading for a current starting quarterback. Now, one of the Raiders fans on staff sent me. There's a report that Geno Smith could be the guy.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Pete likes him. Let me tell you something. Snyder would take that call.
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Jason McIntyre
I would take that call.
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Colin Cowherd
I know Pete likes him a lot.
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Jason McIntyre
So do you know Smith?
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Colin Cowherd
It's funny because Pete does not like interceptions and Geno last couple years has. And because what's fun, Gino's funny because he's got the traits. He's big, he moves, he's a nice guy, he works hard, he's got a decent arm. But he just makes. It's a lot of Darnold. It just sometimes he lets go that ball and I'm like, nah, it's not gonna do it.
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Jason McIntyre
What's the look like for the Raiders if they actually call and trade for Geno Smith as opposed to go after Aaron Rodgers?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Sam Darnold. Well, I think Darnold right now is the best of those three. Yeah, I would put Aaron second, Geno third.
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Jason McIntyre
I. I don't disagree.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, final story.
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Jason McIntyre
Colin is the NBA. This is the story I'm depressed about is this Jalen Brunson injury. He was magnificent last night. And then you watch him land here. It looks like he lands on Austin Reeves as LeBron comes up for the chase down block. Ankle turned badly. He did make his free throws and went right to the locker room. There's concern he could be out a week or two, but Chris Haynes is now reporting it's only an ankle sprain. No ligament damage, nothing significant. There are 20 games left in the season for the Knicks at this point. You need him healthy if you want to have any kind of run. Don't you just shut him down for a week or two, Say, hey, I.
- [33:23]
Colin Cowherd
Think they could win as long as they don't face Boston or Cleveland in the first round. New York's good enough and deep enough to win a playoff series. With him playing two games, they're looking.
- [33:30]
Jason McIntyre
At Pacers or maybe Bucks or possibly Pistons.
- [33:35]
Colin Cowherd
Do you buy the Bucks?
- [33:38]
Jason McIntyre
I mean, not totally, but they're good. But I don't know about them like challenging Boston. I don't like them against Cleveland.
- [33:46]
Colin Cowherd
Well, Cleveland's going to beat everybody they play.
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Jason McIntyre
Except maybe watch the Knicks last night. If you're the Knicks, you don't go into that series intimidated. If you've got a healthy Jalen Brunson Bridges.
- [33:55]
Colin Cowherd
Say it again.
- [33:56]
Jason McIntyre
Knicks Cavs. Are you intimidated by anybody on that team?
- [33:59]
Colin Cowherd
No, I think The Knicks can play. Listen, I've watched the Knicks play the Cavs and get handled. And I watched them twice against Boston and the game was over in seven minutes. The Knicks, as currently constructed, do not match up with the Cavs and Celtics. They do match up with, you know, the Lakers. I think they match up with, with Minnesota and Denver. I, I think. And this is not a knock on the Knicks, I think the Cavs and the Celtics are a notch above the rest of the league.
- [34:32]
Jason McIntyre
Well, if that series happens, Cavs, Knicks, and everybody's healthy. I'll take Knicks. You can have Cavs.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, boy.
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Jason McIntyre
Who's guarding Jalen Brunson? It ain't Garland. He can't defend anyone. And I like Donaldson. I don't know if he can handle the men's league I play in to be a defender like Brunson will cook them for 35 a night.
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Colin Cowherd
They have. Cleveland offensively has a lot of options.
- [34:51]
Jason McIntyre
Yes, they do have five.
- [34:52]
Colin Cowherd
They, I mean, they have. They can score 38 in the back court, the front court. They def.
- [34:57]
Jason McIntyre
They're going to pick on Carl Anthony Towns. Anybody?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they're going to just go right at Carl Luca.
- [35:03]
Jason McIntyre
Going at him. Last night it was back and forth. Brunson's like, give me Luca. Go at him. And then Luca's like, bring me Carl Anthony Towns. And it was just creating mismatches. Towns, man, I don't know. You had a theory, didn't you, that the Knicks should go after Giannis?
- [35:17]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think, I think to get to the next level, I would move Carl Anthony Towns if I had to Move OG Five picks for. Yeah, whatever you want. Just get some flexibility if you're, you know, if you're Milwaukee, get flexibility, get picks. But I, I always felt Carl Anthony Towns was the move before the move. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. Ryan Day was good today, boy. He opened up his heart and gave us stories about his late father and stuff. He didn't have to, and I really appreciate that. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture.
- [36:21]
Ryan Day
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Colin Cowherd
To have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich Live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm.
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Ryan Day
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Jason McIntyre
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
- [37:59]
Ryan Day
Peja 5 Dirk Ford Paja is a.
- [38:01]
Jason McIntyre
Okay, okay, I'm mad him.
- [38:02]
Ryan Day
I left him off my list, but I still like my list.
- [38:06]
Jason McIntyre
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
- [38:09]
Colin Cowherd
That's so tough.
- [38:10]
Jason McIntyre
That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely. Love it. Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters. When you have a scouting report and.
- [38:19]
Ryan Day
You'Re on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with it. Anytime you're wide open, you might as.
- [38:30]
Jason McIntyre
Well just count that and get back on defense. Listen to Go T E Greatest of Their Era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [38:42]
Colin Cowherd
We live in a divided country. I am a lifelong Republican with all.
- [38:46]
Ryan Day
Kinds of different people.
- [38:48]
Colin Cowherd
You know, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother. That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the.
- [38:55]
Jason McIntyre
Extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas. Each week we bring together an all star panel.
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Colin Cowherd
Mark Cuban, so great to have you on the Middle.
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Jason McIntyre
Thanks for having me, Jeremy.
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Colin Cowherd
Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle. Thanks for having me. And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important issues.
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Ryan Day
Hi, my name is Venkat.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia. And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.
- [39:26]
Ryan Day
We should be examining what our government spends its money on and are these jobs necessary and what are we doing here? But that doesn't seem to be what we're doing in this situation.
- [39:34]
Colin Cowherd
Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [39:41]
Jason McIntyre
Tomorrow on Fox Primetime hoops. It's a battle under the bright lights in L. A as USC takes on UCLA in a crosstown rival showdown. Coverage begins tomorrow at 7 Eastern only on Fox.
- [39:55]
Colin Cowherd
It's interesting, Jayson Tatum, you know, he scored a 35 again last night and he was talking about the game against the Lakers tomorrow night. So Lakers, Celtics will be the big national TV game. Boston's a better team, a deeper team. They're better defensive team. I don't care what the, I don't care what it says. They defend the wing, they defend the bucket. It's a really, really good team. Jewel hall is kind of banged up, but Tatum said he doesn't consider the Lakers Celtics to be a rival. Listen, you respect and understand the history.
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Jason McIntyre
And all the guys that wore the.
- [40:27]
Ryan Day
Lakers in Celtics uniform and what it means to the game of basketball and the NBA.
- [40:32]
Colin Cowherd
And it's an honor to be a part of that for sure, from my.
- [40:36]
Ryan Day
Time in the league. Like, I wouldn't look at the Lakers as rivals.
- [40:39]
Jason McIntyre
We only play them twice.
- [40:41]
Ryan Day
You know, the teams that we played over and over again in the playoffs.
- [40:46]
Jason McIntyre
Philly would be one of them.
- [40:47]
Colin Cowherd
And you know, the other teams as well. I agree with them. I look at the Lakers and I think their rival is Stephen, the Warriors. And I look at the Celtics and I Think their rival has been Philadelphia and now the Knicks. So it's weird. College sports has rivalries. You know, Ohio State, Michigan, probably the best rivalry in the country. You know, obviously Duke, Carolina and basketball, massive rivalry. You have a lot of regionals, you know, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. But I, I, it's, it's. I don't know why this is. But even in baseball right now, I mean, the subway series, I do think, you know, the Soto move ramps that up a little bit. Pro sports is not really a rivalry thing to me. Maybe it's because there's so much mobility in it. You know, stars aren't facing off against stars for very long. It's interchangeable pieces. I mean, the reason I think the Lakers warriors is so big, because it's LeBron and Steph. If LeBron and Steph retired tomorrow, I wouldn't feel the same way. I feel like pro rivalries are often based on the player. College rivalries are based on the institution. And, you know, pro athletes are moving all the time. So, I mean, before Jalen Brunson got to the Knicks and they got their act together, I didn't think the Knicks had a rival. I mean, it's now Boston is the King and Philadelphia and, you know, Cleveland now and New York kind of trying to punch up at the King. But yeah, that's, I don't, it's just pro sports. Isn't college football. It, There are absolute rivalries. I live in Los Angeles, you know, the city championship, usc, ucla, they don't even have to be good. And generally both aren't simultaneously good. It's a big deal. You can feel it. I went to Notre Dame, USC this year. That felt big teams don't even have to be great. So, you know, Dion Dawkins, last hour. You know, we were, we were talking about this yesterday. It is funny, all joking aside, on Jason Tatum, he's obviously a great kid, but it. What is star power? And I do feel Steph Curry has a little bit of this. He's performative. You know, in our business, you see people. Yeah, he's doing the falling asleep thing. There is something certain people have personality. I mean, you see it in politics, like Reagan, you know, put Reagan not only to Reagan beat Mondale, but just their personalities. Reagan was a star. Jimmy Carter was a nice man. They were both president, right? Like 1:1. Historically, history will be kinder to Reagan than the late, you know, Jimmy Carter. But it. There are some presidents that feel, I mean, Bill Clinton had this a little bit. Their little rock star quality. And you know, and Tatum, I think sometimes Celtic fans think you're banging on Tatum. No, we're not. It's just there is an aura component to it. And I, I, I'm not doubting the great stuff. And I do think Tatum plays on every single NBA team in the league and he fits everywhere. And I've said this, Steph Curry because he needs the ball, Luka because he needs the ball, Lebron because he needs the ball. They don't necessarily feel like they fit everywhere. KD fits everywhere. I think Tatum fits everywhere. Broussard yesterday talked about Jason, the argument against Tatum. You know, what a lot of people.
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Jason McIntyre
Will say when they really get into the basketball is that a lot of his moves are, you know, manufactured moves.
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Colin Cowherd
They're the moves you learn when you work out with a trainer every day from the time you're a teenager.
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Jason McIntyre
They're not instinctive like the older guys.
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Colin Cowherd
Moves used to be. Just make a move up because you need to do it. We talked about this this morning. I can't buy that as a criticism. So what you're saying is Tatum's hard work should be punished. I could make an argument that Tom Brady, the best quarterback ever, his strength was repetition. It wasn't our mobility. Tom Brady's greatness was based on constant repetition of accuracy, hips, efficiency, throwing in cold weather. Jason Tatum, Michael Jordan, by the way, had three stock moves where he scored 75% of his points. You know, I've said this before, Jordan was electric, but 80% to 90% of what Michael Jordan did were mid range jumpers off two to three moves. And about twice a game, Michael would give you something you'd never seen before. 90% of Mahomes is just curl routes, drag routes, Kelsey for eight and then about twice a game Mahomes does something left handed, sidearm. Oh, I've never seen that before. So now does Tatum give you those iconic moments switching hands? No, but I think it's hard to criticize somebody because they're a workaholic and have, you know, manufactured or sort of predictable moves. I don't, I don't know. I've gone to see him play live three times. He's the first guy out there. He is a worker and I think he's fun to watch. I, I, and I think he's the best Celtic. I don't think there's any question, but this whole thing has been about is he the face of the league? A. I don't think there's, we need a face of the league and I think there's only been three all time. There are certain things that people think there are a lot more of than there are, like, experts. There are not that many experts in the world, and even experts make mistakes. Sports fans tend to think everybody loves sports. I mean, Taylor Swift is 10 times more popular than Patrick Mahomes globally, 10 times. Bruce Springsteen in his prime, 10 times more popular than Derek Jeter. But for a sports fan, no. I mean, everybody knows Jeter. No, they don't. Jeter wasn't flashy. Jeter wasn't electric. A lot of people don't watch baseball. A rod controversy, the look, the swag. Sometimes he'd get in trouble. A rod felt like a star. I've always said this. Ohtani's a star. Mookie Betts is amazing, but Mookie Betts, he's just excellent. If I say Mookie Betts is not the face of baseball, it's not a knock. He's unbelievable. He does more things well than anybody I've ever seen, except maybe Ohtani. Ohtani feels bigger. The presence, the aura. He's global. He's the face of Aaron Judge. By the way, John Carlos Stanton hits home runs, too. Aaron Judge feels closer to the face of baseball. Aaron's got the look. I mean, the look, the humility, the pinstripes. It just. He feels. Aaron Judd isn't just big. He feels big. There's a lot of guys that can hit the ball a long way. Bryce Harper, I thought, when he came into the sport, had a little bit of the face of the league thing, so. And the other one that jumps out is there have been. Look at track and field. Look at how many amazing track and field stars there have been. Usain Bolt, for a while, felt like the face of track and field. There have been a lot of fast guys, but Carl Lewis, if you go way, way back, Carl Lewis felt like the face of the Olympics. There was some controversy. I think that was the Mary Lou Retton felt. Oh, that's it. There have been gymnasts better than Mary Lou Retton. When I was a kid growing up, there was somebody named Olga Corbett, right? There's been. There's been so many great tennis players, right? Like, but. But. But like, John McEnroe is still a topic, by the way. Jimmy Connors was great. Yvonne Lendle was great. Boris Becker was great. I mean, I can go. I can go on and on on tennis players. John McEnroe was a superstar, and part of it was the inappropriate nature of his personality at times. I mean, so There's a lot of great track and field soccer superstars are. I said, did I say this earlier today? The NBA at any time in my life has had two superstars and then about 15 stars. So when I say, well, you're not Lebron, like, I think LeBron and Steph are superstars, is there a third? I'm serious. I don't think Jokic is a superstar. I think he's the best player in the game. I'd argue there are two superstars in the NBA right now. Superstars, global superstars. We can argue about who's third, but it's Stefan Lebron. Everybody knows Stefan LeBron. My son doesn't like sports. He knows Steph. My sister doesn't like Sports. She knows LeBron. They don't know who Jokic is. They don't know who Yokich is. It's not a knock. It's just a reality of the world we live in. It's very broad world now. There's a million platforms to stand out. So everybody knows you. You gotta play a long time and you gotta have some flair and aura in that personality. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glazer podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other, because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out, and you can learn more by following ot'supwithhate.
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Jason McIntyre
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era, and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
- [50:16]
Ryan Day
Peja 5 Dirk Ford. Peja is alone.
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Jason McIntyre
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
- [50:21]
Ryan Day
That's so tough.
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Colin Cowherd
That's why we have these conversations.
- [50:24]
Jason McIntyre
Yes, absolutely.
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Ryan Day
Love it.
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Jason McIntyre
Listen to Goat G O T E Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top 101 free agents will have it covered for you. With all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Ryan Day
What's up everyone?
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Colin Cowherd
Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.
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Ryan Day
Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life.
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Colin Cowherd
All topics are fair game, right?
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Ryan Day
Exactly.
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Colin Cowherd
And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.
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Ryan Day
Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen to Energy Line with Nate in jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.