Hour 2 - Say Your Name Caller, Like Cheers

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd: Hour 2 - Say Your Name Caller, Like Cheers
Release Date: May 20, 2025

In this engaging episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Covino and Rich Davis delve deep into the evolving public images of prominent sports figures. Through spirited discussions, anecdotes, and interactive segments, the duo offers listeners a comprehensive analysis of how personal lives and controversies have reshaped the perceptions of beloved athletes and coaches.

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1. Image Evolution of Bill Belichick and Brett Favre

Bill Belichick's Changing Persona
The conversation kicks off with Bill Belichick, the renowned NFL coach, whose image has undergone a significant transformation. Originally perceived solely as a football mastermind, recent rumors about his engagement to a much younger woman have added a new dimension to his public persona.

Covino [03:01]: "He's just dating a young hottie."

Rich Davis [03:26]: "Now it's like, if you like Spot, I'm curious why. I'm kidding."

The hosts discuss how Belichick's personal life choices, particularly his relationship, have altered the way fans and the media view him. Covino highlights the juxtaposition of Belichick's authoritative role with his newfound personal ties.

Brett Favre's Tarnished Legacy
Transitioning to Brett Favre, the hosts express concern over the revelations from a new documentary that shed light on Favre's off-field misconduct, including alleged financial misdeeds and questionable relationships.

Covino [06:26]: "Brett Favre, his true colors are being shown today. And I think moving forward, everyone's going to just hate Brett Favre."

Rich Davis [07:09]: "You know, she has proof of what happened through text messages, emails, everything else."

The discussion underscores how Favre's actions have significantly impacted his legacy, portraying him in a negative light despite his on-field heroics.

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2. Comparisons with Other Controversial Figures

O.J. Simpson and Perennial Image Shifts
Covino and Davis draw parallels between Belichick and the infamous O.J. Simpson, suggesting that no amount of controversy could completely overshadow Simpson's notorious image.

Rich Davis [08:12]: "It's undeniable. And, you know, no matter what happens... nothing will ever trump no one will ever trump the perception of O.J. Simpson."

Covino [08:30]: "He was an African American man that racist white guys liked."

The hosts emphasize how certain figures, regardless of their actions, remain etched in public consciousness due to their early fame and subsequent scandals.

Michael Vick and Tiger Woods: Redemption Narratives
The episode also touches upon athletes like Michael Vick and Tiger Woods, exploring their journeys from public downfall to redemption.

Covino [13:12]: "Michael Vick was hated more for messing with animals than people are for murdering humans."

Rich Davis [16:43]: "I'm not trying to defend Tiger Woods, but... he became a hell of a lot more likable to me after retirement."

These stories illustrate the complex nature of public forgiveness and the possibility of rebuilding one's image after significant missteps.

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3. Audience Interaction and Trivia Segment

Shaquille O'Neal Joins the Fun
Adding an interactive flair, the hosts host a Shaq Diesel Trivia segment featuring none other than Shaquille O'Neal himself. This lively game engages both the hosts and listeners, blending humor with sports knowledge.

Shaquille O'Neal [27:37]: "What's up? It's big Shaq Diesel, AKA Shaq Fu, AKA Shaq Daddy, AKA the Big Aristotle. Guess what? It's time to win some C prizes."

Throughout the trivia, Shaq provides entertaining commentary, making the segment both informative and entertaining.

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4. Tribute to George Went from "Cheers"

Honoring a TV Legend
The episode pays heartfelt tribute to George Went, a beloved character from the iconic TV show "Cheers", who passed away peacefully in his sleep.

Rich Davis [23:42]: "Rest in peace. George Went, 76 years old. Norm from Cheers died peacefully in his sleep."

The hosts reminisce about Went's character, emphasizing the timelessness and enduring affection fans have for television legends.

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5. Concluding Thoughts and Upcoming Events

Looking Ahead to a Vegas Extravaganza
Before wrapping up, Covino and Davis promote an upcoming live event in Las Vegas scheduled for June 20th-22nd, inviting listeners to join in the festivities.

Rich Davis [02:26]: "Join us in Vegas, Las Vegas, June 20th, 21st and 22nd. A lot of your Fox Sports Radio friends will be there and meet some new people."

They also encourage listeners to stay connected through the iHeartRadio app and the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel for more content and updates.

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Key Takeaways

• Public Image is Fragile: The episode underscores how personal actions and scandals can dramatically alter public perceptions of sports and entertainment figures.

• Redemption is Possible: Despite significant misconduct, some athletes find ways to rehabilitate their images, though not without controversy.

• Enduring Legacies: Certain figures, like O.J. Simpson, maintain their notorious reputations regardless of new developments.

• Interactive Engagement: Incorporating segments like trivia keeps the audience engaged and adds a dynamic element to discussions.

Notable Quotes:

• Covino [06:26]: "Brett Favre, his true colors are being shown today."
• Rich Davis [08:12]: "Nothing will ever trump... the perception of O.J. Simpson."
• Shaquille O'Neal [27:37]: "It's time to win some C prizes."

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a thoughtful exploration of the complexities surrounding public personas in the sports world, blending serious analysis with lighthearted interactions to provide a well-rounded listening experience.

Transcript

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[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

Live from the mean streets of LA. Live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. That's us, Steve El Hombre Maswapo Cavino on a taco Tuesday. And that's Rich La Flamma Blanca Davis.

[Covino]

Know what I was thinking about as we do it live from the FOX Sports Radio studio? I was thinking about how one month from today we're going to be in Las Vegas having a big party with you guys. So hey, if you don't already have your plans set, now's the time. We're going to announce details on all the events soon. But Friday and Saturday, the big days, the 20th and 21st that weekend, everything from live broadcast, pool party, bar night.

[Rich Davis]

Everything boozing and schmoozing, lots of fun. And please join us, sugar, carbs and alcohol. Yeah, there you go. A lot of that and rocking out. So join us in Vegas, Las Vegas, June 20th, 21st and 22nd. A lot of your Fox Sports Radio friends will be there and meet some new people. Years and years of friends we made along the way through this show. So we hope to see you there. Details soon at Covino and Rich Sports Radio again broadcasting live from FOX Sports here in la. And you could stream this show on all of our shows 24, 7 on the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Search Fox Sports Radio on the app. Stream us live. And the new feature is you could preset it just like you do on the radio. And again, Covino and Rich, search us wherever you stream your podcast. We appreciate that. But coming up, what did you say, Bob?

[Covino]

Coming up, I was gonna say check Diesel trivia.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, buddy.

[Covino]

Giving away a swiggy. And whose image has changed the most in your mind when it comes to sports and entertainment?

[Rich Davis]

Because Brett Favre, our producer spot, our associate producer, our video producer spot, he.

[Covino]

Has changed a lot.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Because when we first met him, Rich always Says that he had like a Jonah Hill vibe about him.

[Covino]

I used to say, if you met Spot and you didn't immediately love him, something was wrong with you.

[Rich Davis]

Now Spot walks around with a tank top like he's an Adonis.

[Covino]

Now it's like, if you like Spot, I'm curious why. I'm kidding.

[Rich Davis]

My entire life, right? He's not the same guy. That's evolution, baby. Look, you can't stay the same. And I got to say, look, respectfully, when it comes to Bill Belichick, I'm not mad at the guy. I don't care at all.

[Covino]

He's just dating a young hottie.

[Rich Davis]

But it is the story.

[Covino]

It's a hot story.

[Rich Davis]

Can't ignore the story.

[Covino]

And you know what? No one amped it up. The interview where she's like, we're not talking about that. That to me was the. This was like a little flame in a. In a forest. That interview clip to me, poured a tub of Gasolina on it. It really did to me.

[Rich Davis]

Rich, I don't want to sound like a double talking hypocrite. Double talking Davis. Yeah, like Chatterbox Davis. I don't want to double talk like me.

[Covino]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

If it was my daughter and she was 24 year old dating a 74 old, yeah, you better believe I would care. But no Esme problema, you know, makes them happy for sure. But, I mean, we'd be doing a disservice to not acknowledge the story. It's a hot story. And not only is it a hot story, but the story grows. Did you hear the other story today?

[Covino]

I did. There's. There's layers.

[Rich Davis]

Brett Favre got a new boat?

[Covino]

No, not Brett Favre.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, Bill Belichick got a new.

[Covino]

Well, Brett Favre tried to get a new boat so he could just sail away and never be seen again.

[Unknown Host 1]

Mississippi paid for a new boat.

[Covino]

He got a new boat based off he stole people's money.

[Rich Davis]

Buyer insinuated that there is a rumor of Belichick being engaged.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And hey, I wish him all the best.

[Covino]

You saw that. Well, the headline with the boat, Right?

[Rich Davis]

The boat is the other side of the story. Not. Not far. Belichick, where he got a new paint job on his boat.

[Covino]

They go to Mako and sponsor.

[Rich Davis]

I believe he used to read like eight rings or something, Right? That was the name of the boat. Eight rings. Yeah, something like that. And now it's repainted as one plus eight rings.

[Covino]

Oh, man.

[Rich Davis]

So where's the other ring that adds fuel to the engagement fire. And of course, you wish them all the best. Who really gives a diddly squat, right, about their relationship. But it is front and center. And you have changed or maybe have made some sort of different assessment. Because here's a leader of men, the most alpha men in all the land, and it appears he's being bossed around by a young woman, which is odd to see. Is that the facts? Is that the case? Maybe that's what he likes. We don't know, but that's what we're led to believe. But you definitely have a different image of the guy. You would have never pictured Bill Belichick the type of guy to be hanging around a 24 year old woman. So his image has changed.

[Covino]

My, my image changed when he was doing yoga moves with her on the beach. I was like, wow, he's up there. He was doing like the fly like Superman that you do with your kid, with her, right? And from that moment on, I'm like, you know what? I don't hate him. You know, to me, my stance all along has been, if Bill Belichick is a guy that dedicated 50 years of his life to football, and now that he's like 70, he has a single guy, 74. If Bill Belichick's the type of guy that's like, you know what? I'm going to tap some young ass before it's all over, God bless him. I'm not, I'm not that girl's father, but still. And you know what?

[Rich Davis]

You don't look at him the same way.

[Covino]

I don't.

[Rich Davis]

And that's what we're talking about. So it's not from a judgy place. We're just telling you the story as it is and we'll keep you posted on the rumors. And then of course, the other story today involves Brett Favre. We all knew the story. We all knew the shady side of Brett Favre, but no one really ever talked about it.

[Covino]

It's like he got as much coverage as you thought. It's like he got by unscathed because he was such a hero on the field that the fact that he was a piece of trash with women and Jen Sturger, among others, in that jets organization, and the fact that, you know, there was the money in Mississippi, like Brett Favre, his true colors are being shown today. And I think moving forward, everyone's going to just hate Brett Favre.

[Rich Davis]

If he just joined us again, we bring him up specifically because after today, you're going to know the untold story, the fall of Favre Debuted on Netflix, and people are buzzing about it. Like, damn, Danny G came in today, and Danny G. Knew the stories, but hearing it firsthand on this doc, you're like, yo, man, he was a piece of truth. What did you say? I don't want to misquote you.

[Unknown Host 1]

I just think that half the people are still gonna ignore this, though.

[Rich Davis]

Wow.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah, that's what it.

[Rich Davis]

But you said it was legit. Like, it did not make.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah, like when. When Sturgis was talking. I believed her.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host 1]

You know, and I don't think there's any reason anybody probably shouldn't with the story in the. The facts. Like, she has proof of what happened through text messages, emails, everything else. And then there were witnesses to her side of things, including people in this room. Right. And then.

[Covino]

So, I mean, like, facts, you know?

[Unknown Host 1]

But then the second. The second half of the doc, though, with the money, it's for the underserved. The money is supposed to go to the underprivileged in that state. And so that probably will bother you even more.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, A welfare fraud scheme that he was a part of. And you learn all about that when you go home later tonight. You're probably gonna have a different opinion of Brett Favre. Your friends are gonna be talking about it. But Rich says, despite these two stories that are big and front and center today, there's still a number one image change in the world of sports.

[Covino]

It's undeniable. And, you know, no matter what happens, no matter what athlete goes heel or gets arrested or does something dumb or anything, nothing will ever trump. No one will ever trump the perception of O.J. simpson or Renthal James.

[Rich Davis]

And I still think, yeah, that is the number one. It will always be the number.

[Covino]

I mean, we're talking about a guy that was the most loved player, broadcaster, as they say in many of the documentaries. He was an African American man that racist white guys liked. Like, he. He. He crossed every demographic. Age, sex, race, everything people loved.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

O.J. simpson, he was a naked gun.

[Rich Davis]

He was broadcast to people. My girlfriend, who's slightly younger than me, when I try to explain to her the importance and significance of O.J. simpson, I always have to say, like, imagine Shaquille O' Neal or Strahan was the other Michael Strahan. Like, beloved, but even more loved than them, arguably. You know, imagine they went on a murder spree.

[Covino]

When you say younger girlfriend, Jordan, like, no Belichick. Right?

[Rich Davis]

No Belichick.

[Covino]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I have to. Yeah. No Belichick.

[Unknown Host 1]

Wait, you just said murder spree. So Aaron Hernandez would have to be way up there on the list because it's multiple kills.

[Covino]

But he was always known as a.

[Rich Davis]

Bit of a weirdo.

[Covino]

Right.

[Unknown Host 1]

But we all heard that he had cleaned up his act. It was the Belichick and Patriots way and the effect of their organization. And so we thought he was like one of those great stories of.

[Rich Davis]

And as a casual fan, you didn't know the backstory. You just knew this dude was tearing it up. He was a great tight end, and all of a sudden you're like, he killed people.

[Covino]

Danny, I don't discount your answer. It's in the top. It's on the list. But I just think that Aaron Hernandez was always like, yo, that guy's a little rough around the edge because of.

[Unknown Host 1]

Where he was from and his friends and all that. But what I. What my point, Rich, was we were all told that this was this great American story about how he got a second chance and he totally cleaned up his life.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Not the case. And you know, it doesn't have to be all negative. Right. Because I could throw Tom Brady into that conversation. I think that after his retirement, I have a totally different understanding of who Tom Brady is and what he's about. And he became a hell of a lot more likable to me after retirement once he got away from the whole Patriots way. And. And again we started to see a different side of the guy image shift completely. Because I thought he was like a stiff, boring, sort of vanilla guy. Really funny, personable dude. So it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom.

[Covino]

Yeah. So image changes in the world of sports and entertainment. Who did you go from loving to hating, hating to loving. I just think after you watch this far documentary, if there was still a party that's like, yeah, man, Hero. Brett Favre. I think you're going to think differently. And I don't judge Belichick, but to say that it's not a different impression than the hard nose. My life is football now. When you're. You're seeing him being all cutesy with his 20 something year old girlfriend, you may not be offended. I'm not offended, but I do look at him differently. Like in my mind, I thought he only cared about football. Now I'm like, yo, he cares about booty.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's definitely.

[Covino]

Why else would he different look?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Like, I think that's the funny part. Sports is ignoring. Because sports doesn't like to, you know.

[Rich Davis]

You know what, Richard?

[Covino]

Talking about your sexual stuff. But let's be Honest sports people don't like to dive into the sexual part of things, as it's a little taboo. But why are we ignoring the fact that there's a reason you get with a hot young woman when you're a powerful older man if you don't think sex is a motivator? You think they're hanging out because she's cool?

[Rich Davis]

We have a lot in common.

[Covino]

You think, because, oh, well, we share a love of art. No. What do you think about the Vietnam War? Bill Belichick? I lived through it.

[Spot]

You didn't.

[Covino]

Bill Belichick, he's grabbing a hold of some young hot bod that he probably thought he would never do again. Why are we pretending that's not the real part of this?

[Rich Davis]

And the other weird part about it is, not only do we look at him different, you don't think his young players look at him in a different way?

[Covino]

Probably both.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Like, oh, man, hey, well, you know what he's into. And that's not the kind of look you want for a guy in a leadership position.

[Unknown Host 1]

But society has always kind of glorified it, though. Look at Hugh Hefner.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I was going to say life crisis.

[Covino]

Buying a sports car.

[Rich Davis]

It's weird. And you know what, though? If he wins, though, it's all forgiven and it's all good. So that cures and fixes everything a la Brett Favre. Look how long we ignored the Brett Favre thing because he's a superstar. So image, shift the ruse. Let's get back to it.

[Covino]

Let's go to Josh in Ohio, and then we'll go around the room here. What's up, Josh?

[Neil]

Hey, guys.

[Unknown Host 1]

Mid.

[Neil]

Mid weight. I actually changed my answer. Originally, I was going to go with Vince McMahon, but you inspired me to go from positive to negative back to positive. And that's Michael Vick. We started out, we loved him as a college quarterback. The pit bull thing happened, and now he's back to being a commentator. So he's changed his image from positive to negative back to positive. And I think he needs a lot of flowers for that.

[Rich Davis]

Speaking of. And I think that's a great answer. Isn't he in this documentary, contributor? Yeah, he's part of this Brett Favre documentary because he's all over the trailer.

[Covino]

Michael Vick was hated more for messing with animals than people are for murdering humans. There are people that, like, I will never forgive. My details of that story are awful.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, let's not downplay. Totally good for him.

[Covino]

The simple fact is, if he was, quote, rehabilitated and now fights for animal rights and does stuff. And he's a positive force. Totally. Then what a. What a great turnaround. And that's a great answer.

[Rich Davis]

It is a great answer because you saw all different sides of it.

[Covino]

What did Josh say his original answer was? Vince McMahon.

[Rich Davis]

That's a great one.

[Covino]

Because Vince McMahon was a man, a business genius that took wrestling from sweaty, you know, hairy guys grappling to a billion dollar sports entertainment world. And then you find out, oh, man, he's into weird stuff. Vince.

[Spot]

Here's the tough part. That and why I think the Michael Vick answer is magnificent. Nobody here thinks that guy seems like he could be a murderer. So when you're talking about image and the OJ Thing, I just don't think that you can. Because nobody would think that if it was like, oh, this guy went and slept with a bunch of different women or whatever. Like, oh, it didn't seem like he was a fan. But when you get to the murder part of it, I don't think anybody could see that at all. I think it's more of an extreme. And that's what makes the Vic so good. And what I think that the, like, my recommendation was Tiger woods for. Of loved for everything that we thought that he was, not knowing who they are behind the scenes and then has the scandal with all the different women and then comes back and is re loved again as he wins in the 40s and is then looked at as a dad, you know, of his two kids.

[Rich Davis]

Like, the really great answer, too.

[Spot]

I just think when you have like a murder or the Hernandez situation, same thing. And how he ultimately, you know.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, murder, shocking, animal cruelty, though, that's really what it comes down to. Like, man. Yeah, I would have never guessed that.

[Spot]

Yeah, that's the part where.

[Rich Davis]

And then Tiger woods. You know, what I always picture. Do you guys remember the SNL bit where Tim Meadows played like a goofy Tiger Woods? Do you remember that bit with Tim Meadows? He's like, you know, being all goofy because Tiger was like a real goofball, all shucks kind of guy. When you're these stories about what a womanizer he was, you're like, what Tiger Woods?

[Covino]

Listen, I'm not trying to defend Tiger woods, but.

[Rich Davis]

And then again, he's beloved.

[Covino]

I look at Tiger woods and Bill Belichick, I'm not saying the same, but when you're so dedicated to something, the way Tiger woods was so disciplined with golf, the way Bill Belichick dedicated 50 years to, you know, I'm going to Win at every level. Football, assistant coach, coach, most super bowl rings. I think there's a party that forgets men's downfall so many times is women. And like it wasn't shocking to me that Tiger woods mixed in with emotional championships and injuries in life. You don't think Tiger woods, like every other man had a soft spot for a good looking woman. It sounds ridiculous and so juvenile, but look at politics, look at sports. So many downfalls revolve around women.

[Spot]

Sure, it was the extent of what Tiger was doing as well. With so many different women at different times.

[Rich Davis]

What was the end count? Was it 18?

[Covino]

I don't know, 18 holes of golf, not 18.

[Rich Davis]

I think it was. I think it was, man. I think it was. But you're right, Dan. And then totally reinvented himself again. So it's sort of on that Michael Vick era of we saw how the image changed twice or three times.

[Covino]

I mean, again, we forget that with great power and success and money, a man could very well fall into a world of women that may not be there for the right reasons. And trust me, Tiger woods, when you look back now, you're like, dude, since he was a little boy, golfing success, greatest of all time, injuries take place. Everything has the equation to fall. And women is a great reason. Yeah. So let's say hi to Mark and the Cuse. Have some dinosaur barbecue. What's up, buddy?

[Rich Davis]

Hey, Mark.

[Covino]

We got Mark. There we go.

[Rich Davis]

Mark. Hey, buddy.

[Covino]

Buddy, what's up?

[Neil]

Hey, how you doing?

[Covino]

What's up, bud?

[Neil]

Tiger. What? Tiger woods was great.

[Spot]

I didn't think of him, but the one I was came to mind was Ryan Leaf. I mean that's pales in comparison to.

[Covino]

Tiger, but yeah, Ryan Leaf was one of those guys that he also self.

[Rich Davis]

Admittedly had, you know, his demons, but what a great guy he is every time we see him. He's always been cool with us.

[Covino]

So Ryan Leaf is a guy that high hopes ended up in prison.

[Rich Davis]

Right.

[Covino]

Now we see Ryan Leaf at sports events.

[Rich Davis]

Totally turned it up.

[Covino]

Media rose. Ryan relief is the first guy to stop and have a great conversation with you. Really good guy.

[Rich Davis]

Health a big priority. Like he's fit and looks great. So yeah, he, he's definitely turned it around.

[Covino]

Delaware, what's up, Jimmy?

[Neil]

Hey, Adrian Peterson.

[Covino]

Yeah, I mean AP with the whole. Remember the switch and hitting, hitting the kid. Right. That was the thing.

[Rich Davis]

Like that was a big moment. Yeah. That was a big debate.

[Covino]

His son.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah.

[Covino]

And now he's having. He's in some serious financial deep waters.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. And the story of, you know, how to discipline your own kid.

[Covino]

And he got a DUI recently, too.

[Rich Davis]

What? Common for certain cultures, not common for everybody. It opened up a lot of eyes. And yeah, he's. He's one of those that deal with that.

[Unknown Host 1]

What about.

[Spot]

I think Alex Rodriguez is quite the turnaround.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Spot]

What about Roger Clemens?

[Covino]

Well, that's a good one.

[Spot]

Kind of an under the radar. And the reason I bring it up is here's a guy, when you think of back when we were growing up, I mean, you would think that he would just be a legendary Red Sox player, right. And so then he goes plays for the Yankees and the. And the Blue Jays and Astros and all those teams. And then, then with the, you know, PED scandal and now, like, when you're looking back at like, those eight, like, it's just like, it wasn't rocket Roger. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

You know what's crazy about that, too, Dan, is how, yeah, he won Cy Youngs with a lot of those teams and the Yankees even turned their back on the guy. And you never saw him in any highlight videos until recently. He was brought to spring training or whatever, but that's the first we saw him. I think even this year was the first we saw him there. So as a guy who you believed was all about baseball and all about the Red Sox, like you said, ended up being viewed as. As not the guy we remembered for sure.

[Covino]

Image changers. Allah.

[Rich Davis]

I think I like the A rod answer.

[Covino]

I love Farve and Belichick and a lot of people where one day you feel one way. By the way, a rod.

[Rich Davis]

A rod. The broadcaster, totally like Redee. Any sort of cringy moments he may have had.

[Covino]

Kavino and I both agree that a rod went from putt like putts that just couldn't get it right. But yet a legend to a broadcaster that's very likable. Like just recently, recently he just. He was walking past, grabbed two kid, kids were playing cornhole. He grabbed it, threw it, nailed the shot. And he's. Yeah, like a rod, sort of likable.

[Spot]

Got busted twice for PEDs. I know, like, we just like you just mentioned, you know, Roger Clemens in that, like, conversation. And I'm not saying that's still being held against Roger Clemens.

[Covino]

His.

[Spot]

I thought his profile just would have been bigger than what it is. And a rod got busted twice. The Yankees, as he said. Well, the Yankees couldn't wait to get rid of a rod either, but. Yeah, but now front and center everywhere. He'll be front and center tonight, probably in Oklahoma City as the T Wolves owner.

[Covino]

Let's. Let's say hi to Greg. We'll wrap it up in Hartford. Then we'll play a little Shaq Diesel trivia if you want. In 87799 on Fox, we'll get a contestant. Danny G. Will line that up. We'll give away a stainless swiggy. What's up, Greg Harford.

[Neil]

Thanks, guys. So the way I'm looking at this is who am I not getting a selfie with? Because it would just blow up my feed. Like, why would you do it? So who I would not get a selfie with is Lance Armstrong. Don't have time for that one. But I would. And then. But one of redemption is Plastico Burris. I would love to get a sec. A selfie with him. So there you go. Those are my two.

[Unknown Host 1]

He's on our network now.

[Rich Davis]

You know, based on his assessment of the selfie, OJ Would be the most controversial one, because. Should I or should we?

[Covino]

We were on, you know, before he died. Do you remember this day?

[Rich Davis]

Of course.

[Unknown Host 1]

I was the one that pointed him out. And you guys were like, what? He was wearing a Bills hat too.

[Covino]

He was in row one, seat A of our Southwest flight from Burbank to US to Las Vegas. And he was greeting everyone like little head nods. It's like, oh, hey, Juice. Oh, My God, it's O.J.

[Rich Davis]

Simpson. I was hoping karma didn't play a part in our flight.

[Covino]

And Cavino, the whole flight was like, you know, if this flight go down, people will cheer. Damn it.

[Rich Davis]

Like. And.

[Covino]

And when we were about to get off the plane, we joked, Danny, do you remember saying, like, yo, if you got the huevos to get a selfie with O.J. like, 100 bucks. Like, yes.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah. So the rest we also said if that plane had unfortunately crashed, the headline would be Football legend dies and no one could Murderer dies and two radio hosts.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, two radio clowns, I think is what we agreed on. Two radio clowns. And the reason we bring this up, guys, image shifts, image changes, is because there's two stories today. Bill Belichick might be engaged to his 24 year old girlfriend. Renamed his boat One Plus Eight Rings. Not the Bill Belichick you knew a year or two ago. I know. And Brett Favre. After you see this documentary that premiered today, you'll probably think differently of the guy. No doubt.

[Covino]

All right, well, hey, you want in? We'll play some Shaq Diesel trivia coming up, and we'll pay tribute to a TV legend who passed away if you don't know, we'll give you the sad news coming up all here on Cavino and Rich, FOX Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

Ah, rest in peace. George Went, 76 years old. Norm from Cheers died peacefully in his sleep. That's the update there, by the way.

[Covino]

Just to put in perspective, you know how we talk about how for some reason back in the day, you look at your parents yearbook and everyone looks like they're 30?

[Rich Davis]

In high school, dudes had full on mutton chops. 50 years old.

[Covino]

In high school, TV dads of the 80s, you're like, how old are they? According to the stats, the cast of Cheers, when you're, when you're looking at the group shot they've labeled the ages. George Went was supposed to be 34. Ted Danson as the bar owner, 35. Who's the guy that played the male mailman with the mustache? What was his character again? Cliff. Yeah, Cliff, 35. And yeah, Cliff Clavin and the women on that show were both 33 years old.

[Rich Davis]

33.

[Covino]

So George went was actually like in his mid to late 30s, though.

[Rich Davis]

And he, but I'm saying it's like.

[Covino]

They look, they do like, I would say I'm, I would say I'm, I'm guessing your grandparents are no longer with us. I lost my last grandparents in March. I have a theory, but let me just tell everyone right now, if you want to call the win, let's get the phones going. 87799 on Fox.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, yeah, we're going to play our game. Shaq Diesel trivia. It's real easy to play. And we're giving away a Swiggy to the winner. Our stainless steel, stainless steel. The other ones stains this one stainless, stainless, stainless steel water bottle. It's midnight black. It's real nice. And your chance to win is now 87799 on Fox.

[Covino]

Now back to my grandparent theory. And I bring that up, Sam, because I feel like most of us have lost our grandparents, right? You think of your old grandma and grandpa and the people that help raise us. You'd be at grandma's house. My grandmother wore a moomoo. My grandfather was a World War II veteran who like brushed his hair back and washed his hands with like lava soap after he worked on his car in the driveway.

[Rich Davis]

My grandpa washed his face with lava.

[Covino]

They looked 80 when they were 55. And I look at my dad and my mom now who are roughly both around 70, they look 20 years younger than my grandparents looked at that age. So when you look back at the 80s. And you're like, wait a minute, hold on. Like, these TV dads are supposed to be 30. They look 50. I don't. It just. We age differently.

[Rich Davis]

Look at me. I look like a little man boy. Look at me. You are a man boy.

[Unknown Host 1]

Look at me.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Maturity level. Man, boy.

[Rich Davis]

Man boy.

[Covino]

All right, Danny G. Phones are all hot. We'll get that contestant right now for Shaq Diesel Trivia.

[Rich Davis]

Psalm in the hallway.

[Covino]

Go get him.

[Rich Davis]

He looks like he's in a rush. Obviously. A big night tonight. Wolves at Thunder. And we're pumped about it. So. Always excited to see Shaq Diesel.

[Covino]

Well, I'm going to give some basketball picks in a few seconds for tonight's game while Danny G. Gets a contestants. I just want to point out one thing. Shaq, when he gets in here, you know the rumors about the NBA draft lottery being rigged? Did you see what Shaq said? He said, in the 90s, David Stern asked him. David Stern says, do you want to play in a hot or cold place?

[Rich Davis]

You're stealing all of Shaq's material.

[Covino]

You know what? Well, you know what? We'll talk to Shaq in a second.

[Rich Davis]

No, I mean, he already said it. He asked. David Stern asked Shaq, you want to play where it's hot or cold? And Shaq said, where it's hot. And he ended up in Orlando.

[Unknown Host 1]

What if he was just asking his preference?

[Rich Davis]

Well, why?

[Covino]

What do you prefer?

[Rich Davis]

Look where he ended up.

[Covino]

Let's do it. I was Sam Shaq Diesel trivia.

[Unknown Host 1]

Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're about to name drop.

[Covino]

I'll name drop.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, my goodness.

[Unknown Host 1]

Not only are C and R friends with Tyson and Mahomes.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, man, they're also buddies with a big Aristotle.

[Covino]

Just shut up.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

What's up? It's big Shaq Diesel, AKA Shaq Fu, AKA Shaq Daddy, AKA the Big Aristotle. Guess what? It's time to win some C prizes.

[Unknown Host 1]

Time for some basketball trivia. What he said.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I used to break bad boys. Now breaking records for FSR Radio.

[Rich Davis]

Shaq Diesel basketball trivia.

[Unknown Host 1]

All right, FSR Security walking our broke Shaq Fu into the main studio.

[Rich Davis]

And.

[Unknown Host 1]

Ready to get this great see you guys. The semifinals going tonight.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Out of breath.

[Covino]

So draft lottery. Rick check or what?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Yeah, you know, allegedly, David Stern asked me. But you already told the story, so carry on. I will tell you this, though. Rest in peace, George Wynn. He's my. My third favorite George on tv.

[Covino]

Who's your first two?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Well, George Jefferson. Number one. George Jefferson. And I'm not talking about Stephen A. Smith. About George Jefferson and then George Jetson. And then George went. Rest in peace.

[Covino]

Jets. Jetsons fan, huh?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Big Jetsons fan.

[Unknown Host 1]

Who do you got tonight for game one of the Western Conference finals?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

He already said NBA is rigged. Allegedly. So tonight is going to be the Timberwolves, but the Knicks are definitely in.

[Unknown Host 1]

All right, you heard it from Shaq. Let's meet the contestants. 10 time winner, Rich Davis, right over there.

[Covino]

Here we go, Shaq.

[Unknown Host 1]

Four time winner, Spotty Boy.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Great to see you.

[Rich Davis]

Let's it do.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

All right, let's go.

[Unknown Host 1]

Five leader in the clubhouse. 13 time winner, Dan Byer.

[Spot]

Hello.

[Unknown Host 1]

And looking to win a CNR stainless steel Swiggy on our studio lines. The first one through was Neil in lacrosse Wisconsin.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Neil.

[Covino]

Yo, Neil. What's up, man?

[Rich Davis]

All right, let's go.

[Unknown Host 1]

All right, Neil, what you do really quick for a living there in lacrosse?

[Rich Davis]

Come with cheese.

[Neil]

What was that?

[Unknown Host 1]

What do you do for a living in Wisconsin there?

[Rich Davis]

Oh, I deliver.

[Neil]

Just deliver goods.

[Unknown Host 1]

Oh.

[Spot]

Delivering goods to the coolie region is what he does.

[Unknown Host 1]

Here are the rules for Shaq Diesel Trivia. The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's a tie, we do have a tiebreaker question. Your name is your buzzer. But you do have to wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move on to the next question. Are you ready?

[Covino]

Yeah. Let's go.

[Unknown Host 1]

Let's get it on.

[Rich Davis]

Let's do this.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Who was the first team to lose three straight NBA Finals? Was it A, the Lakers, B, the Celtics or C, the Knicks? Shaq Diesel, who you got?

[Covino]

Come on, I'm giving you a chance. Neil, who you got?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

First team to lose three straight NBA Finals.

[Covino]

Neil.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah. No penalty if you're wrong. Neil.

[Covino]

Rich.

[Unknown Host 1]

Rich.

[Covino]

Lakers.

[Unknown Host 1]

Oh, Rich. You say Lakers.

[Covino]

It's Lakers.

[Unknown Host 1]

No, it's not.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Oh, it's.

[Covino]

It's not Lakers.

[Unknown Host 1]

It's not.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

No, but that was nice. Nice try.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yes. He's so confident.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

You were so confident.

[Covino]

Neil.

[Spot]

Shout your name.

[Rich Davis]

Neil. What did.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah, Neil. You gotta shout your name out.

[Neil]

Yep. Celtic.

[Covino]

His name's Yep.

[Unknown Host 1]

And you're both losers. It was the Knicks.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Knicks lost to the Rochester Royals in 51 and the Minneapolis Lakers 52. 53.

[Unknown Host 1]

It's the Lakers. All right. Nobody on the board line.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Way to be wrong.

[Covino]

Hold on. Ask clown. You know why the Lakers were? An obvious good answer. Because do you know how many years they lost to the Celtics back in the day?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

This guy's always justifying He's.

[Rich Davis]

I love what he's saying.

[Covino]

Why are you talking to Shaq like.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

That every time he loses?

[Rich Davis]

So wrong.

[Covino]

You talk to Kavino like that, you can't talk to Shaq. I got to stick my foot up your ass.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

You better relax.

[Unknown Host 1]

All right, nobody on the board yet. Let's go to round two.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

What was I once quoted saying about my habits?

[Rich Davis]

Oh, yeah, here we go.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

A, excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. What are you? Repeat. You are what you repeatedly do. B, I've had three habits. I've dealt with cars, women, and collecting businesses. Or C, a lot of bad habits finally get broken when they break your bank account. Oh, what have I said about my habits?

[Rich Davis]

Spot, Spot.

[Spot]

I'm gonna go with C. No.

[Covino]

Ah, man. Neil, you gonna jump in or what? I'll go with B.

[Spot]

You'd be wrong.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

You'd be wrong just like the layup. Hey, Pestilence is not a singular act, but a habit.

[Covino]

What you repeatedly do, Neil, you're like Shaq at the free throw line. I'm sorry.

[Unknown Host 1]

All strikes so far, no one on the board.

[Rich Davis]

Yep.

[Unknown Host 1]

As we go to round three. Yeah, Neil. Just buzz in by saying your name. Okay.

[Rich Davis]

Your name is here.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Remember your name is Neil.

[Unknown Host 1]

Round three.

[Covino]

Names. Yep.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Round three. I felt bad for Jayson Tatum. Let's get a question in about the SEAS glory days. Who is the only team to defeat the Celtics at the infamous Boston garden during the 1985? 86 season? A, the Washington Bullets. B, the Portland Trail Blazers, Or C, the New York Knicks.

[Unknown Host 1]

Dan Byer.

[Spot]

Let's say the Blazers came to town and got a win.

[Unknown Host 1]

You are correct. Yes.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Bob Annb.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks, Dan.

[Covino]

Yep.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah. December 6th, 1985. The only loss at Boston Garden. They finished 371 that season.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host 1]

That's amazing.

[Covino]

That's insane.

[Unknown Host 1]

All right, Beyer on the board. We go to round four.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

That's right. Shaq Giesel, round four. I was a busy boy back in my day as well. How many children does the T Wolves, Anthony Edwards have? Is it A, 8, B, 6, or C, 4? Now, Neil, if you don't get this right, I'll take my shoe off and hit you over the head. You say your name first.

[Unknown Host 1]

Neil. You gotta buzz in by saying your name.

[Rich Davis]

Jeff.

[Unknown Host 1]

Okay.

[Covino]

His name's Now.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yeah. Shout out Neil.

[Rich Davis]

Yep. Deal.

[Unknown Host 1]

B, B6. No, no.

[Covino]

Just put it away. Dan Buyer.

[Unknown Host 1]

Just fire for the steal and the win.

[Spot]

Oh, gosh. See? Was.

[Unknown Host 1]

Yes. All right.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Anthony Edwards has four kids. Look at this. Four kids by four different women. So he's off to a good start. He's only 23 years old.

[Rich Davis]

All right.

[Covino]

Hey, thank you.

[Unknown Host 1]

Thank you. Byer gets his 14th win.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

My God, that was painful.

[Spot]

I had to save Wisconsin's pride.

[Unknown Host 1]

I know. Come on now.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Recipes. George went.

[Unknown Host 1]

Now, usually Byers a no brainer for you to still mail the Swiggy out.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

No, I want to interject and say we have to set a standard. That guy was, as my good friend Charles would say, terrible.

[Spot]

It's Shaq's game.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

He was terrible. He gets nothing.

[Covino]

He gets love.

[Rich Davis]

We love you though.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Neil gets a slap in the head. That's what he gets.

[Unknown Host 1]

We still love you though, Neil. Thank you for listening.

[Covino]

Goodbye.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks.

[Covino]

Yep.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Later. Later. Gu. All right, guys, enjoy the game tonight.

[Covino]

Bye. Yeah, by running late. Update. Let's go.

[Spot]

Yeah, a couple of things, guys. Guardians and twins postponed tonight. They were supposed to resume the game that didn't complete yesterday. They're going to do that tomorrow, play on Wednesday and then they'll make up tonight's game later on in the season in September. Tonight on the hardwood, it is the Thunder and timberwolves playing game one of the Western Conference finals 8:30 Eastern Time. Game one of the Eastern finals on the ice. Panthers and Hurricanes skate and Raleigh at 8 Eastern. NFL owners did pass a rule that will allow players to play flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics. Tush push and playoff seating up for debate tomorrow. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell did tell CNBC the league will go to 16 international games within the next five years. Probably those were his words. Bears gave guard Joe Tuney a two year extension and hall of Famer Charles Woodson had his purchase of a minority share of the Cleveland Browns approved today by NFL ownership. Guys, back to you.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, thanks, Dan. Appreciate you. And thanks for participating in that and.

[Covino]

Putting that to rest.

[Rich Davis]

That heated. Yup, trivia game.

[Covino]

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[Unknown Host 1]

Let's go.

[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

Here's what I like now. A lot of times DraftKings does this cool thing where they sort of give you a gimme. You ever see these things where it's like Anthony Edwards more than 0.5 points because they want you to, you know, want you to play?

[Unknown Host 1]

Sure.

[Covino]

I'm taking advantage of the sweet offerings from DraftKings. So here's what I'm doing. It's Anthony Edwards more than half a point. It was 25 and a half. But they're giving that to you as like the little bonus. So I'm going more than Anthony. More than 0.5 for Anthony Edwards. And for also Minnesota, Julius Randall more than 19 and a half. He scored 20 or more and I think five of the last six games. So Julius Randall needs to hit 20 or more. Now Alex Caruso on the other side of things, okc, he's had double digit games, I think also like six of the last seven years.

[Unknown Host 1]

He balled out in that game seven.

[Covino]

So eight and a half. Yo, you just need Crusoe to get nine. I like that. And the one risky one I did because he has proven to just be a big game player. You're likely MVP, SGA, more than 31 and a half. So you need 32 from SGA, 20 from Randall. Double digits for Caruso and Anthony Edwards just to score a point. And that's 10 bucks wins you 80.

[Rich Davis]

10 buckaroos.

[Covino]

Yeah. 10 bucks wins you 80. Why not, right?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. By the way, I'm thinking about what Shaquille o' Neal said when he was here.

[Unknown Host 1]

Broke Shaq and he said, I'm never coming back.

[Rich Davis]

He did say, you know, Rich talks too much and that guy sucked as a contestant, but glad he played. And he said he was very busy. He also said that the NBA is rigged, allegedly. Right?

[Covino]

Yeah. He sort of leaned into an David.

[Rich Davis]

Stern saying, hey, where do you want to play? Whereas cold or whereas hot. And then Orlando gets the first pick and they pick Shaq if it comes down to ratings. And we already alluded that the NBA has to want the Knicks because that equals ratings. Who. What would be the better ratings grab? The Knicks, Timberwolves or the Thunder?

[Covino]

SGA is your likely mvp. But then again, Anthony Edwards, right? They're, they're, they're both like, would you.

[Rich Davis]

Broke Shack did say Knicks, Timberwolves.

[Unknown Host 1]

Edwards has bigger star power.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, that's what I think too. Yeah. Is that the answer though?

[Covino]

You know, Danny, I'll compare it to the NFL when we said Brock Purdy sitting with a similar salary to Tua and Goff and other guys were like, yeah, it so doesn't make sense. I think, I think the T Wolves and the Thunder in that same level of like, yo, young exciting team, but not. They don't have the star power of the Lakers, the Warriors.

[Unknown Host 1]

And it stinks that they're a small market team because they're. When they're clicking, they're really fun to watch. They play a fun brand of basketball.

[Covino]

Who do you rather say you might rather see Minnesota because they'll make our boss happy, right?

[Spot]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

No, I agree with Danny G. The Anthony Edwards storyline is probably a bigger story for the casual guy because they all know him by now. With the Jordan comparisons, the young superstars on the Thunder people aren't that familiar with maybe Caruso and sga, but again, not as exciting as Anthony Edwards.

[Covino]

But I do wonder, is this the beginning of like SGA's first of many. And then we'll look back and be like, why do we downplay this? This kid like, you know, so what.

[Rich Davis]

Is the finals that you would want to see or that the networks would want to see?

[Covino]

Hit us up at Covino and Ritual. See you guys back here tomorrow. Thank you. Danny G. And I with Sam and Spotty until then are even there too, baby.

[Rich Davis]

See you in the promised land.

[Unknown Host 1]

You're listening to an I heart podcast.