Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 2: Steelers vs. Bengals, Greg Cosell
Release Date: January 2, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Guest: Greg Cosell
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Duration: Approximately 48 minutes
1. Steelers vs. Bengals Analysis
Timestamp: [06:02] – [06:45]
Colin Cowherd welcomes Greg Cosell to discuss the upcoming showdown between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Cincinnati Bengals. Greg predicts a Steelers victory, emphasizing Pittsburgh's improved offense and defensive strategy.
- Greg Cosell: "If the Steelers win, they're guaranteed to get the Texans at home. And everybody in the AFC wants to play the Texans." ([06:02])
Key Points:
- Offensive Improvement: Pittsburgh has moved past its three-year offensive slump, now relying on players like George Pickens. However, the offense lacks Pro Bowl talent for the third consecutive year.
- Defensive Spending: The Steelers continue to lead the NFL in defensive spending for three straight years, a strategy Greg questions regarding its efficacy in winning championships.
- Playoff Prospects: A Steelers win could position them favorably in the playoffs, potentially securing a home game against the Texans. However, Greg remains skeptical about their Super Bowl viability without offensive Pro Bowlers.
2. Vikings vs. Lions Breakdown
Timestamp: [07:13] – [08:38]
The discussion shifts to the Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions, evaluating their coaching, defensive prowess, and offensive strategies.
- Greg Cosell: "The Vikings defense is difficult to play against because they're so multiple with their front looks and coverage rotations." ([07:13])
Key Points:
- Coaching Excellence: Both Kevin O'Connell (Vikings) and Brian Flores (Lions) receive praise for their coaching abilities.
- Defensive Challenges: Despite not having Pro Bowl defensive players, both teams present complex defensive schemes that challenge opposing quarterbacks.
- Offensive Performance: Jared Goff and the Lions' offense have adapted well against the Vikings' defense, showcasing resilience and strategic execution.
3. Evaluation of Young Quarterbacks
Timestamp: [08:17] – [12:17]
Colin and Greg delve into the performances of emerging quarterbacks, highlighting strengths, weaknesses, and potential growth areas.
a. Michael Penix (Washington)
- Greg Cosell: "He's a pocket player for the most part. He's poised, he's composed." ([08:38])
- Analysis: Penix shows promise with his calm demeanor and pocket passing but needs to reduce missed routine throws to align with his playing style.
b. Jaden Daniels
- Greg Cosell: "He's cut from the same cloth as Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes." ([09:41])
- Analysis: Daniels demonstrates situational awareness and mobility but occasionally leaves passes incomplete due to his aggressive playstyle.
c. Drake May (Bears)
- Greg Cosell: "He's played really well given the circumstances and the situation he's in." ([10:XX])
- Analysis: May has adapted to a challenging offensive line and limited offensive weapons, showing significant improvement in his first year.
d. J.J. McCarthy
- Greg Cosell: "He can still snap it off with the best in the league." ([10:XX])
- Analysis: McCarthy exhibits strong arm strength and mental acuity but requires experienced coaching to harness his full potential.
e. Caleb Williams
- Greg Cosell: "Incredibly gifted just throwing a football, but he has ways to go." ([10:XX])
- Analysis: Williams possesses natural talent but needs to refine his game understanding and mechanics to excel in the NFL.
4. Baltimore Ravens' Defensive Turnaround
Timestamp: [12:17] – [13:43]
Greg Cosell analyzes the significant improvements in the Baltimore Ravens' defense, attributing it to strategic player position changes.
- Greg Cosell: "Since they moved Kyle Hamilton to full-time safety, they've become the number one third down defense in the NFL." ([12:38])
Key Points:
- Position Realignment: Kyle Hamilton's shift from slot corner to safety has enhanced Baltimore's defensive flexibility and coverage capabilities.
- Defensive Efficiency: The Ravens now allow offenses to convert on only 29% of third downs, showcasing their defensive dominance.
- Player Performance: Hamilton's physical presence and range have been pivotal, exemplified by his interception against CJ Stroud.
5. Los Angeles Rams' Offensive Strategy
Timestamp: [15:10] – [17:11]
The conversation moves to the Los Angeles Rams, dissecting their offensive struggles and reliance on the running game.
- Greg Cosell: "They are now a running football team, and that's where it all starts with Kyron Williams." ([15:45])
Key Points:
- Run-Centric Offense: The Rams have emphasized their running game with Kyron Williams, a reliable but non-explosive back.
- Quarterback Limitations: Despite Matthew Stafford's talent, the lack of offensive weapons and reliance on the run hampers their offensive explosiveness.
- Game Execution: The Rams often start games slowly, focusing on establishing the run before executing more dynamic plays.
6. C.J. Stroud's Performance Regression
Timestamp: [17:11] – [18:44]
Discussion focuses on Cleveland Browns' quarterback C.J. Stroud, exploring factors contributing to his perceived decline.
- Greg Cosell: "The offensive line hasn't been as good, and Laramie Tunsil hasn't had his best season as a pass protector." ([17:24])
Key Points:
- Increased Pressure: Stroud faces more consistent defensive pressure due to offensive line weaknesses, affecting his accuracy and decision-making.
- Development Needs: Stroud must adapt to playing with defensive bodies around him, refining his ball placement and mechanical precision.
- Future Outlook: Greg remains optimistic about Stroud's potential, emphasizing that he is still developing and not yet a bust.
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Mike Evans' Milestone
Timestamp: [36:16] – [38:24]
The focus shifts to the Buccaneers, specifically targeting Mike Evans' pursuit of his 11th consecutive 1,000-yard season.
- Greg Cosell: "Mike Evans is chasing an 11th straight 1,000-yard season. He's only 85 yards away." ([36:40])
Key Points:
- Consistent Performance: Evans is on the brink of equaling legendary receivers like Jerry Rice and Tim Brown in consecutive 1,000-yard seasons.
- Offensive Strategy: Baker Mayfield's involvement and the Buccaneers' balanced offense are crucial in facilitating Evans' success.
- Historical Context: Greg posits that Evans could be among the top 10 receivers in NFL history if he continues his current performance trajectory.
8. College Football Highlights – Texas vs. Arizona State Beach Bowl
Timestamp: [38:24] – [40:17]
The episode concludes with a discussion on the thrilling Beach Bowl matchup between Texas and Arizona State.
- Colin Cowherd: "They were down 16 in the final seven minutes for double overtime, and Arizona State proved they belong." ([39:11])
Key Points:
- Game Dynamics: Arizona State overcame a significant deficit, showcasing resilience and strategic execution to secure victory in double overtime.
- Targeting Controversy: The game featured controversial helmet-to-helmet hits, sparking debates on the necessity and enforcement of targeting rules in college football.
- Team Reflection: Both teams are reflecting on their performances, with Texas focusing on their offensive lapses despite having superior talent.
Notable Quotes with Timestamp Attribution
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Greg Cosell on Steelers' Playoff Prospects:
"If the Steelers win, they're guaranteed to get the Texans at home. And everybody in the AFC wants to play the Texans." ([06:02]) -
Greg Cosell on Vikings' Defense Complexity:
"The Vikings defense is difficult to play against because they're so multiple with their front looks and coverage rotations." ([07:13]) -
Greg Cosell on Michael Penix's Composure:
"He's a pocket player for the most part. He's poised, he's composed." ([08:38]) -
Greg Cosell on Baltimore's Defensive Improvement:
"Since they moved Kyle Hamilton to full-time safety, they've become the number one third down defense in the NFL." ([12:38]) -
Greg Cosell on Mike Evans' Legacy:
"Mike Evans is chasing an 11th straight 1,000-yard season. He's only 85 yards away." ([36:40])
Concluding Remarks
Throughout the episode, Colin Cowherd and Greg Cosell engage in in-depth analysis of current NFL trends, player performances, and strategic team evaluations. Greg provides a seasoned perspective, drawing on his extensive 45-year experience with NFL Films to offer nuanced insights into player development, team dynamics, and the evolving landscape of professional football. The discussion not only highlights immediate game predictions but also delves into the long-term implications of team strategies and player trajectories, making it a comprehensive listen for football enthusiasts seeking expert commentary.
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