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Colin Cowherd
Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports radio.
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Yovon Buha
Our.
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Colin Cowherd
Number two here on the herd. Jason McIntyre somehow still in for Colin Cowherd. I haven't been replaced yet. I don't know, Alex. Maybe that's coming. People are very angry at me online.
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Alex Curry
I love your, like, off the rails takes this week.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, they haven't been that crazy, have they?
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Alex Curry
I mean, you're going all in on a rookie quarterback, J.J. and the Vikings before seeing him actually play a single NFL snap.
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Colin Cowherd
So let's not talk about that one. Anyway.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah, it's okay.
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Colin Cowherd
It's okay. We. We got Yovon Buha, who covers the Lakers coming up in five minutes. I had to ask him, are you pro super teams or not? I'll tell you what he said when he drops by the set, but let's say he probably liked my take earlier. Give me super teams or give me death. All right, NBA finals are starting Thursday. Gosh, the wait is forever. And I keep seeing this nonsense out there from these yahoos who are like, hey, SGA wins a title. He's the best player in Thunder history. And I'm like, we talked about this as a staff last week and, and I, I said, no way. Just because he won the MVP in a championship, even if he wins finals. Mvp, I don't care. You think that automatically makes him the greatest player in franchise history? I'm sorry, Kevin Durant, undeniably. This isn't even. This is like a laughable discussion. I pushed this in the morning meeting on Monday and they were like, yeah, that's obvious. And then I'm seeing all these. These clowns online saying, oh, yes, ga. Well, he got a title. Katie didn't get a title, folks. We got the side by side comparison, okay? We forget what Kevin Durant did at okc, okay? Look at these numbers. This is staggering. It's not even close. He is by far. I mean, SGA would probably need three championships in my mind, to be the best player in franchise history. He'd have to stay there a lot longer. He has four playoff series wins. Can we pump the brakes? And this is an issue I have with the NBA. We just love to crown people instantly. Like, SGA is crushing it in the mid range. Awesome, Wonderful, congrats. But we. We can't stop There we need to say he's the greatest player in Thunder franchise history, and he's brought the mid range back to save the NBA. He's basically like Kobe and MJ in the mid range. Like, do you see we're making quantum leaps off a playoff run? That's been. Yeah, he. He's been great. I got it in the first round, they took down Memphis. I mean, they haven't won jack squat. John Morant got hurt when they were up 30. And otherwise, you know, SGA loses that king. Okay, and then who they be in the second round? The Nuggets. Okay, that was a tough series. Not many people had the Nuggets winning that series or going to the finals again. They have no bench. And then in the third round, they take down the Timberwolves. What do they want? Anthony Edwards are stars 23. Let's not act like this is some kind of historic run. I know the numbers say they're great net rating, blah, blah, blah. And I'm not diminishing. I'm just putting things in context. OKC has been great. They've won, I believe, 80, 82 games. A lot of basketball games this season. But can we just slow down crowning SGA as the greatest player in franchise history? That's false. Can we stop with this? They're one of the greatest teams in NBA history, according to some stats. That's not even close to true. Guys, let's be real. Last year's Celtics team would wipe the floor with these guys. Okay? I don't think it's particularly close. I mean, hell, that Nuggets team that won the title when they actually had a bench and didn't have to rely on Peyton Watson and. And Jalen Pickett, that Nuggets team's probably better than these guys. This is a great team. Defensively, they're great. They're built awesome. But can we just slow down? Even if they sweep the Pacers, which could be in play. Let's just. Let's provide some context. In reality, they're a really, really good basketball team, and they've had an outstanding season, and SGA is awesome. Can we leave it at that? Is that okay? All right, let's welcome in Yovon Buha covers the NBA and the Lakers for the Athletic. All right, I. I just wanted to rant. You're laughing here. I don't know. You saw this Oklahoma City team. You were in OKC when the Lakers smacked them by 75 or whatever. And then the next night, they're winning in the fourth, and Luca Gets that dumb ejection. Or the Lakers beat him back to back. Come on.
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Yovon Buha
Would have given them a better series than the Timberwolves.
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Colin Cowherd
Thank you.
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Yovon Buha
But, yeah, I mean, they're. They're putting up historic numbers, so I. I want to give them their respect for the season that they're having. But I agree with you that if they win the championship, which I think they will.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Yovon Buha
If you look at some of the recent title winners, I would pick the 2024 Celtics ahead of them. I think the 2020 Lakers would give that.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, the buck.
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Yovon Buha
That would give them a real series.
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Colin Cowherd
Forgot about them.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
That team had KCP, Kuzma.
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Yovon Buha
I mean, LeBron and AD were. LeBron and Adam, arguably two of the top three or four players in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Weren't they the number one seed?
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Yovon Buha
They were the number one seed. They were on a 61 pace.
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Colin Cowherd
Huh. We forgot about the bubble Lakers.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
What do you think of the. The goofballs who were like, ah, that title doesn't really count.
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Yovon Buha
I mean, look, so I was covering the Clippers at the time, so I was on the opposite end of watching a team who did not want to be there and who crumbled under the pressure of the bubble and being away from their families and obviously some real world stuff going on at the time. But, like, I mean, I think that was one of the tougher championships in NBA history, undeniably.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, so LeBron has his podcast. He's now partnering with Steve Nash, and Luca Doncic was on it. I'm assuming you've listened and all that fun stuff. Any takeaways, any tea leaves to read from their. Their podcast together.
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Yovon Buha
So one thing I think is worth noting with this is this was filmed actually in Oklahoma City during that road trip. So this is from early April. Oh, so they were sitting on this. They filmed several episodes of Mind the Game in Oklahoma City because the producer Jason lives out there. So this is, like, a couple months old. So I want to make note of that. That's why they're talking about the Oklahoma City road trip when they're talking. So that's why I don't think we're gonna see anything about, like, Luka and his extension or LeBron and his free agency in, like, part two. But I thought the interesting thing was just seeing how those two interacted, because we haven't really seen them interact much just based on how post game goes. LeBron likes to talk at his locker. He goes a little bit earlier, Luka goes for treatment, and then he goes to the podium. So sometimes, like, they're kind of passing by each other despite having their lockers next to each other. So we haven't really seen them interact for extended periods outside of, like, cracking jokes in the locker or if there's a conversation one of them will pop into. So I think just seeing those two interact for about 30 minutes or so, what was interesting, but no real takeaways. Obviously. It was a lot of, like, how they developed and a little bit about their tenure with the Lakers and kind of where things Rod at that time.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm curious. So LeBron partnered with Wade, who he was tight with, and then Kyrie, who there was like, a mutual respect, and then A.D. he really wanted. This is the first one he didn't. I don't think he asked for Luka, but Luka really respects him. How are we supposed to infer that?
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Yovon Buha
I think LeBron really respects Luka, though. He said multiple times that he's his favorite player in the league because really, Luka is Lebron, minus the athleticism. And, you know, he's got some Harden. It's like, you know, like, I think he's a hybrid of LeBron and Harden with, you know, without the. Maybe with like, the Paul Pierce athleticism. Right. Or something like that, or maybe a little bit more than Harden. I don't know. But he's. So I think there's a mutual admiration because of the size and. And because of the way that he sees the game. They are very similar in that regard. So I. I think LeBron respects him and is someone that he's trying to take under his wing.
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Colin Cowherd
So it's interesting. I was. I'm sure you saw the video of Luca at, like, a Real Madrid game. He stood up in the front row. And of course, you know, the body language experts are like, he's skinny. Oh, my gosh, he's losing weight. I. I don't. Did you take away anything? I couldn't really tell.
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Yovon Buha
He looked a little slimmer, but I wouldn't take away too much from it. I mean, I think that is going to be his point of emphasis for this offseason, is getting in better shape. As JJ Redick said at his exit interview, championship shape. And I think that was a comment pointed toward Luka and a couple other players. Last time I was on here, we kind of talked about that. So I think that is going to be a point of emphasis for him. But he is playing with Slovenia and Eurobasket, which I think is going to be good for him to keep him in Gabe shape. Throughout the summer. So I think we might see a slimmer Luka going into training camp.
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Colin Cowherd
But he did play last summer and then he got injured. Like is there any concern like with that?
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Yovon Buha
I mean with calf injuries there is always some concern with just re injury and those can nag a little bit. But if I just go back and look at that was the most serious injury he's dealt with at the NBA level. It was the longest injury absence he had of his career. Then he gets traded and he's clearly shell shocked. There's an emotional element to it. And within the aftermath of all that, I don't think he was ever quite himself physically. Despite that, he was still putting up 28, 8 and 7 still. I mean all the Lakers big statement wins. Luka was the primary guy hitting big shots, making big plays in the fourth. So I think he put his imprint on that team and their second half turnaround. But he still has way more to improve in terms of getting back to who he was before.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm forgetting where the report came from, but yesterday Alex and I talked about Bronny James. There was a report he's going to be in the RO next year. And I don't, I don't know if this is an overreaction to seeing like Indiana and OKC having like big benches where they're playing. You know, TJ McConnell who much better obviously. But can Bronnie be a poor man's TJ McConnell for 10 minutes a game next year?
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Yovon Buha
I think he can crack maybe like the fringes of the rotation. He showed a lot of growth. Like I think if you go back and watch where he was in the G League in November compared to where he was in the G League in March. Two totally different players. And it's not just like a confidence thing. Like he tangibly improved his skill and is off the dribble. Pick and role play, passing, decision making, all that stuff really improved. So I think he's shown some on the dribble or off the dribble on the ball chops that he didn't really show in summer league or at USC that I think is encouraging. But I come back to the defensive end where for me if he's going to get minutes, he has to be that 94ft test pressuring the ball, you know, the pitbull who you put on an opposing ball handler. And he's going to be disruptive and making that player uncomfortable. So I'd like to see a little bit more of that from him. But I think going into next season. Could he be the 11th or 12th guy in the rotation? Maybe, depending on how things shake out. They make a trade where they trade three guys for one and all of a sudden you have some depth issues. Perhaps he cracks the back end of the rotation, but I don't think he's going to be top eight, top nine. I think that's probably premature.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so you mentioned the word trade. So obviously the buzz out there is this is be the busiest offseason since 2019. I don't. Are the Lakers going to be involved in a lot of it? Because it seems like they're in a position where they can't do a ton. Was that fair?
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Yovon Buha
They are limited with their resources both in free agency. They probably will only have the 5.7 million taxpayer exception unless LeBron takes a 15 to 20 million dollars breakout which not happening. So like probably 5.7 million. Unless they can salary dump someone into a team with cap space or with some cap flexibility, however. Well, maybe like a Maxi Klebo or a Gabe Vincent because those guys are lower expiring figures.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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Yovon Buha
The problem is to do that you typically have to attach an asset or two. Right. And they only have one pick to trade. So when looking at their options, I think they have to make a trade to make any notable improvement and that's likely going to come with some combination of Rui Hachimura 2031 and 2032 first round pick Dalton connect and. And some combination of the. Maybe it gave Vincent a maxi clee but like it's hard to, you know, only trade out expiring contracts that. No, like people don't want. Like Rui is a guy who can start or be a key bench piece for you depending on your roster player.
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Colin Cowherd
You're. You're in good shape, right?
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Yovon Buha
Yeah, I would say probably fit. I would want fifth or sixth because he was the Lakers fourth best player and they lost in the first round.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I'm trying to think like the Knicks who was there.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah, I think he, he needs a certain infrastructure where like if you put him on Minnesota or okc, like take Chet out or take Julius Randle out and you have a bunch of good defenders around him and he's just more of like a spot up, catch and shoot guy around that I think he fits. But if like he was the Lakers primary wingstopper sometimes and it's like that, that's not going to cut it.
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Colin Cowherd
But Dorian Finney Smith is going to be back with the Lakers.
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Yovon Buha
I think so. Yeah. He's got a great relationship With Luka.
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Colin Cowherd
Too which you can't y he's back to Dallas, right?
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Yovon Buha
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. All right, so let's re talk about Austin Reeves again because for some reason people don't like the guy. He's polarizing series against Anthony Edwards. What do you want?
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Yovon Buha
And I would even contend his series was not as bad as people are making it out to be like his his isolation defense against Ant. The numbers were actually good if you look at there were certain not not to get too nerdy on you but there were some, you know, isolation possessions where they're tracking points per possession for certain defenders in the first round he was I think top five against like him individually against Ant and he had the best defensive rating of any of the five starters by a wide margin. So you can't really point to like they were much worse defensively with him on the floor and then even his numbers like I went through for recent podcast I did and looked at all 16 playoff teams. Their number three scorer he was right there with Aaron Gordon, Chet Holmgren, Evan Mobley and that like 16, 17 point per game range. So it's like his percentages were bad and there were some bad possessions where he switched on to Julius Randle and ones or Jaden McDaniel scored on him, whatever. But he wasn't, it wasn't D' Angelo Russell from the Denver series. There was no zero points on 0 for 7 shooting performance. Right. So any I think defensively he held up like on guards he's fine. It's. It's one he has to guard bigger guys. That's where it's a mismatch.
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Colin Cowherd
So it's weird. I keep hearing and again I'm not blasting the finals. I'm just not that excited about them that oh OKC set up for the next five years. Oh they're going to be unstoppable. We heard this about Denver with Jokic and Murray. They're in their prime and they have been able to get back to the finals. Boston last year. Oh Boston set up. They're perfect. Tatum's now done. They're going to be apparently holidays on the way out. Is this doing that over again or is there. Well wait a minute. They're younger, they have more cap space. They got a bunch of draft picks.
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Yovon Buha
That's the big one for me. It's the draft picks. So I mean they're the second youngest team to make the finals in NBA history by average age. So that I think is a factor in their favor. A lot of these guys are extension eligible they're still on their rookie deals. So a lot of times, like basically whoever you got drafted by, like, they can control your contract with the way restricted free agency works for like seven to eight years. So a lot of these guys, if the Thunder are willing to go into the luxury tax, are going to be OKC Thunder for the foreseeable future. And then I look at the draft picks of. They got, I think something like 20 something first round picks over the next six, seven years. So even if they lose, it's high, it's a big. Now they're not all good, they're not all good picks, but if they want to get into the Giannis sweepstakes, let's say they lose or somehow Indiana pushes them to like seven and it's a concerning series. They could go get Giannis, they could go get. They could bring KD back and he could add to his resume as a Thunder.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Yovon Buha
So like they, or let's say like Kayson Wallace is someone I really like off their bench. I think he's a guy who can start for a lot of teams moving forward. If he grows into that caliber of player and they lose him in free agency or they have to trade him because of his contract, well, they could go draft another version of him, a younger, cheaper version. So like they're really set up. We haven't seen a team be this set up because like even going back to Denver, for example, right. Like they made several trades and gave up all their first round picks or a lot of them, and they did a poor job drafting, they did a poor job signing minimum guys and stuff. Like OKC has nailed the draft, they've replenished their cupboard and they're well set up. So I think this can be an exception here where like we haven't really seen a team have this much draft equity, have this much young talent and right now a wide open league.
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Colin Cowherd
So the Pacers are kind of in that. I saw a number that said something like they haven't paid the luxury tax since 2004. Yeah, that's insanity.
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Yovon Buha
And somehow they've always been like decent too. They've never really tanked. They don't like they're always like 30 plus wins.
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Colin Cowherd
Let me ask. Just macro, zoom out.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Is this finals good for the league?
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Yovon Buha
I think so. I mean, I think we're in this new era of parity, seemingly. And while I, as you teased, am pro superteam and pro big market, you know, give the.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't mind if they, if the stars combine in a Big in a small market. I just need stars together.
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Yovon Buha
But I'm super team, you know, pro, big market. But I think this is good for the league and showing you can build in different ways. And I think it is sort of like a pallet cleanse for the league after having. There's been a concentration of the California teams, the Texas teams, and I think we're having a little bit of a reset. But I think these are two rabid fan bases. Two of the better fan bases in the league that have not had titles. Indiana and then OKC now obviously more recently. So one of these two teams is going to have their first title. And I think it's. That part's awesome. You got young talent. A lot of people doubting both teams, frankly. Like okc, talking to players. We talked about it before, like, players were not afraid of the Thunder. I don't know if they are still afraid of the thunder or not, but Indiana, we had to pull at the athletic. We talked to players anonymously. They voted him the most overrated player in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Your outlet. Oh, gosh.
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Yovon Buha
So it's like, you know, I think both of these teams have had to overcome some doubt.
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Colin Cowherd
I just. I can't. I keep coming back to like, you. You have a bunch of buddies, I'm assuming, who aren't hardcore NBA fans. Are they fired up about this?
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Yovon Buha
No.
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Colin Cowherd
Exactly.
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Yovon Buha
That's the problem.
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Colin Cowherd
That's kind of an issue. Like, there's nobody polarizing in this series. I mean, maybe sga, Halliburton's a little.
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Yovon Buha
I think Halliburton's a little polarized. I mean, if you're a. Nick.
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Colin Cowherd
Who Halliburton is.
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Jason McIntyre
No.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Does she know who SGA is?
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Yovon Buha
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, okay.
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Yovon Buha
Well. But I covered him with the Clippers, so.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah. So it doesn't.
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Yovon Buha
It's a little different, but.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Like Halliburton. I mean, my mom has no clue who that guy is.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, and like, I think if you get Kyrie and LeBron, Curry and KD, you know, even like Kobe and Gasol, like, everybody knows those guys. And I know the argument could be, well, those. These guys will be back here. Maybe. Denver's hasn't been back. Milwaukee hasn't been back.
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Yovon Buha
I think OKC will be back. Indiana. We'll see. I mean, maybe.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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Yovon Buha
OKC is pretty. Again, well set up. We'll see.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm a little down on okc. We'll see if you could tell. All right, so we'll get a couple quick ones. Big picture, league There's a report coming out last, I guess in the last hour about Kevin Durant and Phoenix and Houston are perhaps working on something. But is that because maybe Milwaukee asked for Amen Thompson in any Giannis deal, hoping that Amen Thompson could be there? SGA maybe.
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Yovon Buha
Well, that same report said that there's some uncertainty with how available Giannis is, because I think any team going for Kevin Durant should be trying to go for Giannis because it's like, why not get the younger, currently better superstar player, right? He's about what, five, six years younger than kd, so why not get that guy who can be set up for the next half decade or so? So I think if I'm Houston, my priority number one has to be throwing the kitchen sink to try to get Giannis.
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Colin Cowherd
You would trade Amen Thompson?
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Yovon Buha
That's the one guy I would try to keep.
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Colin Cowherd
He looked like a potential major.
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Yovon Buha
And the interesting thing is like, if you ask the casual fan, they would probably say like Alperin Shangoon or Jalen Green. Like Jalen Green, I think is that's kind of my, my test for like your perception of basketball is how you feel about Jalen Green. I don't think many people know, but, you know. So I think Almond Thompson is the guy that I would try to keep if I'm Houston, everybody else is on the table.
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Colin Cowherd
And then, so what is this Giannis may not be available stuff is that.
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Yovon Buha
He hasn't formally asked out technically, but I mean, it's, I think he's going to get traded this summer.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, there's no point.
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Yovon Buha
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And I, I will ask, is there a world where he gets shipped to a small market team?
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Yovon Buha
I mean, in San Antonio. I think San Antonio is maybe the exception, depending on what they're willing to put on the table.
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Colin Cowherd
Would you put Castle in a deal?
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Yovon Buha
I would.
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Colin Cowherd
So then what, what do you, I.
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Yovon Buha
Mean, to me, Giannis is a top three player in the league. So it's like, who are your other two guys? I would say Shay and Jokic.
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Colin Cowherd
Shay over.
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Yovon Buha
No, no, Jokic. I, I, I came on here and broke my MVP pick. So Jokic to me is, and look, I mean, especially if OKC disposes of Indiana in a four or five game series, that's going to make the Jokic is the best player in the league case even stronger because the fact that he took was five and a half guys and he took OKC to seven games and like they just ran out of gas. Like game four, game five, they could have won either of those games. In the fourth they had double digit leads. Like I think that makes the Jokic is the best player in the league case strong. But yeah, I would say Yan, like with Castle, right. You're hoping he can become a top three player. I don't think he's gonna become a top three player. So like why not get the guy who's still in his prime?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I just don't know if you have enough around Wemby and Giannis. Is that enough?
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Yovon Buha
Fox, Fox two, you keep f. I think that's a pretty good. As your third best player, every playoff.
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Colin Cowherd
Series wins for dear and fox zero.
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Yovon Buha
But as your third best player, you could do worse.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. All right, so this is unfair but just listening to way you put SGA third.
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Yovon Buha
I put, I would put him third.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you think SGA is a better player than Luka right now?
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Yovon Buha
I think. Right, right now, yes.
- [25:29]
Colin Cowherd
Wow.
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Yovon Buha
But I think it's, I mean we're talking but I, I, I think, I think Luka's ceiling is higher. So like if we go Back to like 2024 Luca, I think that player is better than this current version. I just don't think he was at that level. So like I think his like there's a little bit more variance with Luca but just because of the conditioning and I know the injury and people listening.
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Colin Cowherd
And watching will be like, oh, Luca doesn't play defense. SGA's surrounded by great defenders.
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Yovon Buha
He's our worst defender in the starting group. He's not a bad defense. He's still an above like he's an above average to good defender but he's the guy that if you're going to target someone in their starting group, you have now it's no shade at him because again you're not going to target Lou Dort. You're not going to target Chad. Right. Luka might, Luka might. Luka will target anybody. I would say right now, I would say Shay's better. But I think if I was going into next season, depending on how things play out the rest of the series and maybe if we get some Luca update pictures going into next year, if I was doing like a 20, 25, 26 ranking, I might put Luka ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, so I'll end with a hot take. I kind of pitched it to the staff. I don't know if we're going to do it this week. I think SGA is basically James Harden 2.0. I don't, I Don't want to hear any of this Kobe nonsense and all this like, he's James Harden, really good player who has kind of an unstoppable run here, getting to the basket, drawing fouls. Now he's not the three point shooter, but he's traded that for the mid range. I mean, some of the stats about him in the half court, drives to the basket dribbles, whatever they are, they're similar to what Harden was doing. Is that in. Is that a ding on sga?
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Yovon Buha
I think it is. Just because. Because of the playoff track record at this point we've seen with Harden. When you look at some of his notable playoff performances, especially in games five to seven, game six performances, Game seven performances, like he shrinks on the moment. And, and so I think with Shea already, I mean, I mean, Harden's been to the finals, but he was in the finals as a sixth man. He hasn't been to the finals as the guy. He hasn't gotten over that hump yet. So I know it's a bit reductive and, and I, I don't. But like we have the track record, right? Like people have written and gone through.
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Colin Cowherd
I guess the counter with OKCs been favored in every series. Yeah, Harden usually when he was the guy in Houston, was the dog. And he did push the.
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Yovon Buha
Except for the one year they won his MVP year. That. That was the year what 20, 19, 65 wins. I mean, them versus the warriors was like KD and K. Chris Paul goes down.
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Colin Cowherd
Chris Paul went down.
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Yovon Buha
That's right. And they were up three. They're up three, two in that series and Chris Paul goes down and then.
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Colin Cowherd
So shimmy and Steph Curry.
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Yovon Buha
But still it's like, I mean, at some point you think he would have broken through and I don't know. I mean in Brooklyn, in. In Philly, like, it's just his. His track record is. Is at this point, like he. He is who he is. So I think sh.
- [28:16]
Colin Cowherd
It's negative to call SGA hard.
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Yovon Buha
I think Shai has a ways to go to catch him as a regular season player like that. Harden's legacy is largely carried by his regular season performances. The consistency, the longevity. Like he's. He's put up some monster seasons. The playoff track record. I think if Shea wins the title already, best player too.
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Colin Cowherd
Negative.
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Yovon Buha
Yeah. I mean, I think you could argue some of those Houston teams were just as like similar talent profile to these Thunder teams. Right? Like Thunder or deeper.
- [28:45]
Colin Cowherd
But they had like Trevor Ariza. It's like their third Best player?
- [28:48]
Yovon Buha
Yeah.
- [28:48]
Colin Cowherd
Eric Gordon. I mean.
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Yovon Buha
I mean, that's fair. Clint Capella.
- [28:52]
Colin Cowherd
Who?
- [28:53]
Yovon Buha
Clint Capella.
- [28:55]
Colin Cowherd
Is he gonna be a Laker?
- [28:56]
Yovon Buha
Maybe. I think that the 5.7 might be a little low for him, but depending on how the market plays out, can.
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Colin Cowherd
They get Nikhil Alexander Walker for 5.7?
- [29:03]
Yovon Buha
No.
- [29:04]
Colin Cowherd
No shot.
- [29:04]
Yovon Buha
He's getting at least the full taxpayer MLE. It's like 14 million.
- [29:08]
Colin Cowherd
So, yeah, we're fine. Go out on one name. Give me one fun name for the Lakers.
- [29:11]
Yovon Buha
The guy I really like hasn't been.
- [29:12]
Colin Cowherd
Out there or a lot.
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Yovon Buha
Well, the guy I really like is Nick Claxton. I think that's the guy that checks all the boxes. I know he's slight, right? And that's like the one knock on him, I guess would be. But like, they had the league's best defense with Jackson Hayes as their starting center for a quarter of the season. You get me that guy. He can switch. Good rim protector, really good finisher, lob threat. Like, that's a guy. He's 26. I want 25. 26.
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Colin Cowherd
He'd have the best defense with Jackson.
- [29:38]
Yovon Buha
Ace for 24. They had that 24 game stretch. They went 20 and 4. League's best defense. Jackson Hayes was the primary center.
- [29:46]
Colin Cowherd
It feels like Jackson Hayes is probably playing in China next year. Right.
- [29:49]
Yovon Buha
I think he'll get a contract, but he cost himself a lot of money over the final month of that season.
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Colin Cowherd
If you can't work with LeBron and Luca, like, anyways. All right. Yovon Buha, senior NBA reporter at the Athletic, knows everything. He has a podcast. Dude, he's. You've worked everywhere. He's on the rise.
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Yovon Buha
What are you, like 30, 32? Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
She's. What a lucky guy. All right, man.
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See DKNG co audio back here on the Herd. Great stuff. Yovan Buha. You see, I could talk Lakers like literally all day. It's fun. Let's go to Alex Curry with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.
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Yovon Buha
This is the Herd line news and.
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Alex Curry
We'Re actually going to start in baseball because this kind of came up at the series. You were at this weekend, the World Series rematch. Yankee shortstop Anthony Volfe and Dodger shortstop Miguel Rojas were asked to name their all time batting orders starting from the 2000s. Obviously both Aaron Judge and Shohei Ohtani were both on the list, but take a look at the rest here. Okay, we have them on here. Okay, so for the Dodgers you got Shohei Ohtani bets. Freddie Freeman, Matt Kemp, Cody Bellinger, Justin Turner, Will Smith, TK Hernandez, Miguel Rojas, Clayton Kershaw. And then for the Yankees you have Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Aaron Judge, Alex Rodriguez, Marc Teixeira, Robinson Cano, Jorge Posada, Rick Gardner. So who, which one are you taking here?
- [35:11]
Colin Cowherd
A lot of those Dodgers players are like on the current team.
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Alex Curry
Yeah. They've also won, they've also won two recent World Series. So like that's.
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Colin Cowherd
I was living in New York during the Derek Jeter run. It was just, it was insane in the fall. Oh my gosh.
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Alex Curry
It was insane.
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Colin Cowherd
Unbelievable.
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Alex Curry
I, I mean this is a, this.
- [35:32]
Colin Cowherd
Is a tough one.
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Alex Curry
Is a tough one.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm going LA Yankees. Right. With given that like those are historical players. Those are historical Derek Jeter, hall of Fame, Bernie Williams, hall of Fame. Right. You have Judge is going A Rod's in. I mean Chesa should be hall of Fame. I yeah, that's a stacked Yankees line. But a lot of these guys are still young on the Dodgers. H. Matt Kemp is the only guy who's not really that recent, right?
- [36:03]
Alex Curry
What do you mean? Like, yeah, most of these Dodgers. Cody. Cody still. Yeah, still in the league on a different team.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I, I would lean Yankee.
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
What about you? What do you got?
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Alex Curry
That's fine. I, I mean I bleed blue. So I'm, I'm going Dodgers. And we saw this weekend, obviously Dodgers like still just light years ahead of the Yankees right now. But again, these are two teams that like money talks. When you have the money, you're going to get the top players. And historically it was always the Yankees going out and paying, like paying the all paying to get their all stars. And they have the World Series to show for it. Obviously nothing since the Jeter era. They got close last year.
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Colin Cowherd
But I mean, honestly, I can watch game 5, 5th inning, 5 runs, Ohtani highlights all day.
- [36:55]
Alex Curry
Yeah, it's hard. It's also hard to bet against Shohei Otani right now. Like if you're on any lineup.
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Colin Cowherd
Like, honestly, he's so, he's like kind of goat level already.
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Alex Curry
Like they're calling him the young goat.
- [37:07]
Colin Cowherd
So Friday night I was at the game. Yankees are rolling five, two.
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Alex Curry
You saw Judge like had a home.
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Colin Cowherd
Run in the first.
- [37:13]
Alex Curry
Ohtani homered in the first. It was back to back dingers. Ohtani hit two homers.
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Colin Cowherd
So I think it's five, two Yankees.
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Alex Curry
Oh yeah, they starter.
- [37:21]
Colin Cowherd
Who's there? Who was their pitcher that night? I forget he's their best player. He was seven and oh, the guy was unrolling and Ohtani Tomahawks won out of the yard and it's like, yeah. Oh boy. And the Dodgers woke up peel off four runs. Yeah. And then the Yankees both exploded. Yeah, you got to, you got to go Dodgers.
- [37:37]
Alex Curry
Well, and then it just exploded.
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Colin Cowherd
What was, was it 18, 8, 28 Saturday. Yeah, just a beat down. This is good. I like the historical context.
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Alex Curry
It's fun, right? Okay, let's, let's head back to the NFL offensive Rookie of the year betting market is getting a ton of action as reports from OTAs across the league come in. And they must like what Cleveland beat reporters are saying because Shador Sanders has received the most tickets and biggest handle of all rookies despite being a long shot to win the award at plus 2000.
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Colin Cowherd
That's dumb money.
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Alex Curry
That's wild. You know what? I hope he goes out there and proves everybody wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
That is dumb money.
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Alex Curry
Do it, do it on the field instead of talking about it on social media. And he's had a great, great attitude. He has had a great attitude since Getting drafted by Cleveland despite everything and the way it went down. Obviously you've talked a lot about his dad Dion and him kind of being a big reason. I think that he, he got a lot of negativity and got a lot of hate. But you also have to remember Tom Brady is Shador, one of Shador Sanders mentors. He was the one who called him after he got drafted and he obviously, obviously dropped in the draft. And Tom Brady told Shador, it doesn't matter where you're drafted because all that matters is day one at camp because that's where you're going to fight for your spot on the field. And if anybody can attest to that, it's Tom Brady who went in the sixth round, 199th pick. He is the goat. He has more rings than any individual franchise. So he has good people in his ear and he has good people on his team besides his dad giving him some good advice. I, I don't believe he's going to start the season. I think Flacco is probably going to start the season but I think Shedeur what about he has. I think if she door has a good camp I think he can, he can be a starter midseason for the Browns.
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Colin Cowherd
So first of all if your thought is hey I can't wait to bet into that market. Rookie of the year. Yeah. Offense.
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Alex Curry
I don't think he's going to have enough games.
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Colin Cowherd
Let me go bet on that guy who's in a quarterback battle with three other dudes.
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Alex Curry
I don't think he's going to have enough games under belt but I do think he's going to start eventually for the Browns.
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Colin Cowherd
This is why casinos exist in the desert. Dumb money, people lighting it on fire. Betting Shador Sanders, you.
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Alex Curry
It's. It's a lot.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean I try to help these people. I try to talk, gamble. They don't want to, they don't want to improve.
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Alex Curry
You got to make the roster. There is a lot of guys competing for this. I do think he again, I will say it again. I do think he has a good chance to. To start mid season again. They don't think he's going to start the season for the Browns. If they're going to go with Flacco.
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Colin Cowherd
Give me a number. How many games will Shadour start this year?
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Alex Curry
Alex, can we get their schedule up? Do we have their schedule?
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Colin Cowherd
I don't even think you need it. No, I mean it's like come on.
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Alex Curry
I. Okay, so they have a week nine bye. Halfway through the season okay. Right.
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Colin Cowherd
You're not bringing them out against the jets or Ravens. Those two have great defenses. Raiders on the road.
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Alex Curry
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Niners? I don't think so.
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Alex Curry
If he's in, he's in. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. That's so like seven. Maybe he starts six. Seven games.
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Colin Cowherd
Wow. Okay.
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Alex Curry
Vegas needs a line back end of the season.
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Colin Cowherd
All right.
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Alex Curry
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Give me the under. I will smash that under. Yeah. No way does he start seven games. And again, I like. Just for context. Yeah, I liked him coming out. I would have taken him second, but I'm going with what the Browns have shown. Don't tell me, show me. He's getting the fewest amount of reps.
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Alex Curry
They're going to put in Flacco to start the season. Maybe give Pickett a shot. I think Shador, I think Shedor finds his way in there.
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Colin Cowherd
Dylan Gabriel?
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Alex Curry
No.
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Colin Cowherd
Oregon's finest. Hey, you heard Brear. You heard Brear. He crushed the draft. Yeah.
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Alex Curry
All right, well, let's talk about the Steelers and T.J. watt. They are. He wants a new contract and Pittsburgh doesn't want to offer more than they already have. Reports from Pittsburgh say that the offer is pretty significant, but still doesn't match what Watt wants. Of course, complicating this is the fact that the Steelers haven't gotten and may never get Aaron Rodgers in camp. Yeah, he's not even on the team, so I don't even know why we keep talking about Rodgers with the Steelers yet. But. But TJ Is your guy. He's the top edge rusher on a great defensive team with one of the greatest defensive coaches who has never had a losing season in his 18 year coaching career. And TJ is first and has been first in every defensive stat since his rookie year. So you're going to have to give the. Like, give the guy what he wants. Give the guy who he wants.
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Jason McIntyre
But they.
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Alex Curry
They have bigger problems right now in this season. Like they need a quarterback.
- [42:28]
Colin Cowherd
Wait. Give the guy what he wants. He's like 30, 31 years old. Isn't that risky? A lot of tread on those tires.
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Alex Curry
No, he's still performing.
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Colin Cowherd
For how long?
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Alex Curry
Still first. Still ranked first in the NFL.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it is.
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Alex Curry
Entering the league.
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Colin Cowherd
He's had a great career. But I'm giving the contract looking forward. And I, I would have said. I said I would have traded him.
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Alex Curry
Leader on this defense.
- [42:50]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's.
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Alex Curry
On a team that has been like one of the top defensive teams with the best defensive coach and has never had a losing season. What that's going to shake everything up.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I mean, they haven't had a playoff win with T. DJ Watt, I don't think. And it's like, what are we paying?
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Alex Curry
We don't have a losing season.
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Colin Cowherd
I would trade. I would have a losing season. I would bottom out. I would trade Watt, not sign Rogers, win four or five games and then take the quarterback in the top 10. Yeah.
- [43:18]
Alex Curry
Try to tank. Yeah.
- [43:19]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, I don't know what else you're gonna do. Every year they're reaching.
- [43:22]
Alex Curry
Too much pride. Too much pride for Tom Kenny. That's not gonna happen. Absolutely not.
- [43:26]
Colin Cowherd
It won't. But it should. It.
- [43:28]
Alex Curry
No, no. Because he's never. I do think this might be Mike Tomlin's first losing season in his career, but they're not going to tank. I don't think it's going to be that bad. Where they're going to be a top two draft pick.
- [43:40]
Colin Cowherd
What if Arch Manning here, Alex.
- [43:42]
Alex Curry
I mean, that would be big.
- [43:43]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
- [43:44]
Alex Curry
But to get there, you got. You can trade. You can trade up for that. You don't tank. They're a franchise that feels more like you trade for that. You don't tank for that.
- [43:53]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Alex Curry
Yeah.
- [43:53]
Colin Cowherd
They're. They're a blue broad. They're too proud.
- [43:55]
Alex Curry
Yes. Has never had a losing season in 18 years.
- [44:01]
Colin Cowherd
Who had the song Ain't too proud to beg? Is that tlc?
- [44:04]
Alex Curry
I don't know.
- [44:05]
Colin Cowherd
Ain't too proud to tank.
- [44:07]
Alex Curry
Should.
- [44:07]
Colin Cowherd
That should be their. Their theme anyways, Alex, coming up next.
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Yovon Buha
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
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Jason McIntyre
Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, literally. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. Summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. Now, what do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A day at the lake? That's a no. A Philly cheesesteak? That's a yes. A nice tan. Sorry. A box fan? Happily, yes. What about a day of sunshine? Not happening. How about a box of fine wines? Yeah, that's happening. Delivery's on its way. Okay, how about some clear skies? Nope. Well, how about some French fries? Yeah. So how about a freshly cut lawn? Can't help you there. But a barbecued prawn? Order it and it's on its way. Even throw in some paper towels. Clean up after the feast. So while you can't get fun in the sun delivered. Don't worry because you can get pork buns delivered. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. At the end of the season, there's only one team that can call themselves NBA champs. Only one player that can call themselves the number one pick in the NFL draft. Well, there's only one electric SUV worthy of the title. The Ultimate. The all electric BMW ix. What I love about the IX is that it delivers legendary BMW performance. While its sleek design exudes innovative style from the inside out. Not to mention how much space and utility it provides. Over 75 cubic feet of cargo space, the IX is completely changing the game with an all electric suv. The greatest legends of sports never compromise any part of the game. So why would you settle for anything less from your suv? After all, there's only ultimate the BMW ix. Everything you love about the ultimate driving machine electrified.
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Yovon Buha
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Yovon Buha
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Alex Curry
Another chapter in America's greatest rivalry unfolds as the Red Sox take on Aaron Judge and the Yankees or the Padres battle the Brewers. Check local listings for the game in your area. Saturday at 7:30 Eastern on Cox.
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Colin Cowherd
Boy, I made the mistake. Alex. What? Checking my mentions during the commercial break.
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Alex Curry
J Mac, we talk about this. You are not allowed to check your mentions during the show.
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Colin Cowherd
I went to go get some candy. No Mike and Ike's. Yeah, I'm back on those. And I check my mentions and people are angry about my NBA Finals take.
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Alex Curry
I was like, oh, well, that's the thing. It kind of goes both ways. It's like, Are you a 5050 fan? Are you a hardcore fan? Hardcore fans are going to love this finals. 5050 fans are like, again, there's no name recognition for like these superstars and super teams that we've had in the past. So it's, you can kind of go both ways.
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Colin Cowherd
So maybe you'll like this one better. So Travis Hunter is the new Jacksonville superstar. They traded up for him and his coach talked about a little issue. They're having with the defense wanting Travis Hunter to practice, but the offense needing Travis Hunter. Here's Liam Cohen.
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Yovon Buha
Just the movement, skills and some of the man coverages, the feel and zone. You can definitely see how natural it is for him. Still learning, still growing, still trying to learn the calls as much as possible. But when you see him just in the the actual seven on and team setting, he doesn't look out of place by any means, huh?
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Colin Cowherd
So the defense needs Hunter, obviously. The defense, the secondary was an abomination last year, but Trevor Lawrence, your superstar quarterback, definitely needs Travis Hunter. You gave up a lot of draft equity to get him. Folks, this has disaster written all over it. So rookie coach Liam Connors. Liam Cohen's never been a head coach. You got a rookie front office. You've got a quarterback who's coming off another down year. You do have a star wide receiver, Brian Thomas, who carried me in fantasy last year to a championship. Thank you, Brian Thomas. But you need somebody opposite him and that should be Hunter. Hunter, by the way, also got married over the weekend. I'm sure you guys saw that stuff on social media. I'm not going to chime in on that. I know a lot of guys have chimed in, but I'll stand down. I'll just say we all want Trevor Lawrence to succeed in Jacksonville. It's just not happening. And I don't know if this is the year for it. They're clearly not as good as Houston. The Colts, if they can figure out quarterback with Anthony Richardson probably third. But then you got Cam Ward lurking with the Titans. I mean, is it possible that Jacksonville ends up fourth in the division again? Final hour coming up. OKC Indiana. Where are the super teams?
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Jason McIntyre
Summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. Now, what do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A nice tan. Sorry. A box fan. Happily, yes. A day of sunshine. No. A box of fine wines. Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. You know, there are moments in life where you get to make a real difference. And this is one of them. I want to tell you about Folds of Honor. They provide educational scholarships to the spouses and children of fallen or disabled military members and first responders. Think about that for a second. Families who've lost everything or are rebuilding their lives and this organization steps in to make sure their kids can still go to college or a spouse can get the training they need to keep moving forward. Since 2007, they've awarded nearly 62,000 scholarships. Last year, about 7,000 qualified students didn't receive funding. In this year, that number is expected to grow to nearly 10,000. So if you've been looking for a way to give back to do something really meaningful, this is it. Go to foldsofhonor.org give what you can. It all matters. Honor their sacrifice by educating their legacy. You've heard me talk about Green River Whiskey, the official Whiskey of the Herd podcast. I love a good metaphor, so here's one for you. Green River Whiskey is like a big playoff win by your favorite team, always sure to raise your spirits. So pair the thrills of this playoff season with Green River Whiskey. To find Green river near you, head on over to greenriverwhisky.com here's the green River Whiskey Raise your spirits. A product of Green River Distilling Company Owensboro, Kentucky. Alcohol by volume, varies by product. Greenriverwhiskey.com, please drink responsibly. Just like how true champs master both offense and defense, the BMW IX masters both ultimate performance and undue, unbeatable space. Love mine. The greatest legends in sports never compromise in any aspect of their game. So why would you settle for anything less from your suv? What I love about my BMW IX is that it redefines the electric vehicle experience, seamlessly integrates powerful performance. It's bold, daring design, a refined interior, details, cutting edge technology. Basically pushes the boundaries of innovation. Thousands of details went into creating the ultimate electric SUV. Compromise. Not one of them. This is an iHeart podcast.