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Colin Cowherd
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Jon Stewart
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Adnan Virk
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Jason Demers
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Jason Demers
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Adnan Virk
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Heard Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Jon Stewart
Now, let's get this party started.
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's hour two. We're live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day, J. Mac. Got a blazing five here in a couple of minutes. You know, it's interesting. So my initial belief on games, there's about one a week I look at and I zero in on it. You had strong feelings about the Rams in this game, and I pushed back and I had strong feelings about the Ravens in this game. And then you start digging and digging and looking at these lines.
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J. Mac
Wait, you taking. Taking the Steelers here?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, oh.
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J. Mac
You going big dogs this weekend?
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Colin Cowherd
Not saying that. Listen, you've had a better year than me picking games.
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J. Mac
Not by much. I mean, I've been.
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Colin Cowherd
I've been good. Not great. I've been bad.
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J. Mac
College football's been really good. We got Ohio State tonight, right?
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Colin Cowherd
We both have Ohio State tonight. Yeah, we've gone last two weeks. We both had Notre Dame over Georgia, Notre Dame over Penn State. We both liked Ohio State over Oregon. We. We. We've. I stayed away. Texas. ASU. You liked ASU. That was opening round.
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J. Mac
I think we went 4,0 each of us. I'm pretty sure you had a great season.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I. I bought into the underdogs in the opening round. And then I learned my lesson. But here we go, our blazing five bot you. Brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbook. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins Blazin Five. Sponsored by DraftKings Steelers and Ravens. Listen, I'm gonna take the nine and a half. These are 38 times Tomlin and Harbaugh have met. The underdog's done very well in this series. 31 all time against Baltimore in the playoffs. And The Ravens, they're 2 and 6 over the last eight playoff games. And I love Lamar Jackson. He's not the same. He's been under 200 yards passing. They don't have zay flowers. They don't have another rece. They have a good tight end, Lamar in the back. I mean, as a starter against the Steelers in the playoffs, he has struggled. And let's be honest, the Ravens pass defense isn't great. You can move the ball, chop it up. Offensively, I think the Ravens win at nine and a half as Mike Tomlins, the best underdog coach in a decade. 27:23 Baltimore wins. I'm going to take the nine and a half points Broncos and Bills. Listen, a lot of the wise guys, yeah, they're gonna like Denver. I'm gonna take Buffalo 80 at home during the regular season and winning by an NFL best 17 points. Josh Allen playoff career, 26 touchdowns, four interceptions. What's not to like? He's not Lamar Jackson. He may not be hoisting trophies. He's not Lamar Jackson. James Cook led the NFL, 18 scrimmage touchdowns. Great at home. Broncos number seven seeds are one and seven all time in the wild car since playoff expansion. They didn't play particularly well down the stretch. They lost two or three games. The only win over the Chiefs. And the Chiefs were resting starters. Josh Allen at home. Big spot. Rookie quarterbacks in the first round go 8 and 13. I like the bills. I like them to cover 30 to 20. Packers at Eagles. This is my favorite bet of the weekend. I like Philadelphia to win at home and Philadelphia to cover -4 and a half. They won 12 of their last 13 games and they're only giving up about 15 points a game. Number two, rushing offense. The highest rush percentage in the league. So Jalen hurts. Concussion protocol. They should be able to keep it on the ground. Jalen hurts. By the way, he gets a fresh Saquon Barkley. Okay, so a well rested Saquon Barkley. And the packers, they were not good against good teams.05 this year against the Vikings, Lions and Eagles.2 and 5 against playoff teams this year. Green Bay is a bit of a free front runner, a bit of a bully. I don't like him in this spot. They also were second in the NFL and drops. So they're a young team that can make mistakes. I like Philadelphia. Jalen hurts since week four has been great. 33 to 24, commanders and buccaneers. I think Tampa is the better team here. I'm going to take a favorite minus three at home. Veteran quarterback with a real run game and a better defensive front. Do you know Tampa's the first NFL offense in league history with a 70 plus percent completion percentage through the air and 5 plus yards per carry. This is a daunting run attack. So Baker is going to be throwing on second and five and third and two. And Baker right now leads the NFL with 15 touchdown passes over the last four games. So Baker's hot. The run game is substantial. And listen, we like the Commanders. They are down in the fourth quarter. It feels like even in the games they win. I mean their most famous win this year was a Hail Mary. They've trailed in the fourth in three straight games. They don't have a run game. They're going to be totally Jaden Daniels dependent and he may pull it out. But they had the second easiest NFL schedule this year. This is a tough draw. I like Tampa to win and Tampa to cover 33 to 24. Vikings and Rams. It's hard. The more I thought I listened to Greg Cosell yesterday. I'm going to take the Rams plus two and a half. Listen, they won five straight games before resting their starters in week 18 and they're six and one when they score over 21 points. And I think they will. Matt Stafford has been a very good playoff quarterback in LA. 69.9% completion percentage with a lot of touchdowns and only three picks. Their defense is on fire. It's young. It's totally healthy. Sam Darnold's making his playoff debut. It's a road game. I'm just worried I'm gonna take, by the way, the highest passing yard per game playoff in NFL history for quarterbacks Matt Stafford one over Kurt Warner and Dan Fout. I'm going to take the Rams to win a close one 27 to 24. So there you have it. By the way, DraftKings, this week's new customers. Bet five, get bucks, get 200 in bonus bets. The promo code is heard. I'm taking some favorites here. I'm taking Buffalo, I'm taking Philadelphia, I'm taking Tampa as favorites and I'll take the Steelers. And the Rams getting points. I think J. Mac likes most of them except the Pittsburgh.
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J. Mac
Yeah, no, I, I think I'm in lockstep with you through all along the board. I just, I don't, I mean, I guess the Zay Flowers injury, he's been ruled out.
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Colin Cowherd
To me it feels substantial.
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J. Mac
They can be limited without him.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I mean it's Mark Andrews in a backfield like they, they don't have their next number two receiver has 15 catches.
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J. Mac
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
In the NFL. This isn't Penn State. It's the NFL without Zay Flowers. They're not going to be explosive down the field at all. And I think that makes the game a 30 to 30 game in between the 30s. Probably a good bet by. All right, Urban Meyer, the voice of college football here is joining us now. Fox Sports Big noon kickoff Saturdays in the fall. Okay, so I'm watching that game last night. So listen, I don't like the second guest coaches. I don't, I'm not a second guesser, Urban, because I don't know who's healthy and who's not. You looked at film and I didn't. But I gotta get to something. So Penn State hadn't completed a ball to receivers. There's very little time left. Notre Dame secondary is excellent. They're very disciplined and well coached. And let's be honest about Penn State's quarterback, he can make mistakes. I don't think with that time, 40 yards to go, I'm packing at him. We're built for overtime. I got great running backs. I didn't like Penn State getting aggressive down the stretch. Am I wrong? Tell me where you land on that.
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Urban Meyer
Yeah, I was in the suite at the Orange bowl watching it and I was with a group of people. And when they got the ball back, they're deep in their own territory, 47 seconds left. They did have all the timeouts and they ran the ball. Nick Singleton, I believe, got like 12 yards. Yards.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Urban Meyer
And I even said to myself, don't do it. Don't just, just play this thing out. Run the ball one more time. If you get near the midfield, then go ahead. But you know, Drew Aller is going to have to live with that one for a long time. But I saw the same thing the country saw, that Penn State's receivers just had a hard time getting open. And you can put this all on the quarterback. It's not, it's their best player is Tyler Warren and then the two tailbacks. And after that, there's a significant drop off, and so that'll be questioned for a long time. But you also, you know, you kick yourself in the teeth if you don't at least take a shot. But I would have. I would have handed that thing off one or two more times. If they would have busted it, I would have thrown it down the field. Never throw that ball across the middle in that kind of situation. And that was tough. And I'm with you, Colin. I. Exactly. And I said that to a group of people. They're looking at me and I said, no, no, no, don't. No two minute here. There's only 47 seconds left. You're facing a secondary that's better than your receivers. Don't do it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I was talking about Mark. Marcus Freeman. You know, he started 0 and 3. He lost his first home game to Marshall, and he was 35 years old. And I'm like, oh, boy. And he had good players. I'm like, I don't know if this thing's going to work. So when, you know, you were the turnaround specialist, that's what you. You and Bill Parcells like, you're in a very short class. So when he starts 03 and he's 35 and he, you know, unlike you, he didn't, you know, your first job, you were kind of hidden over there in Bowling Green. We didn't know who Urban Meyer was. His first job's Notre Dame. How do you think he turned it around? Go back to the first year. What's his secret sauce here?
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Urban Meyer
I think it goes back to the way he was a player at Ohio State. You know, he's always had that reputation of doing things the right way, of being unselfish and extreme hard work. And I think that's what he is as a position coach for Luke Fickle. Luke Fickle is one of my guys. So I know Marcus Freeman very well. I followed him. I actually called him. I saw his press conference after they lost to Marshall, and he looked exactly like you thought he would look. He looked like, what in the world just happened? Where am I and what am I doing? And. And I remember Mack Brown reached out to me when I was at Florida, was in a similar situation. I was a little bit over my skis, and you just. You become overwhelmed. And I talked to him quite a bit. I've stayed in touch with him. His maturity of a coach is. I don't want to say it's unprecedented, but it's phenomenal. What he's done, he's got a good roster, not a great roster. He does not have. You know, the two rosters playing tonight are better than Notre Dame. Oh, yeah, but they got something. They got something very special in that locker room. Their leadership, their toughness to refuse to lose that game was almost out of hand in that first half against Penn State. And they. You got to give Marcus Freeman as coaching staff credit. But also those damn players, man, I was there. I watched them. They were. They refused to lose and just toughed it out, man. That was a great win for them.
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Colin Cowherd
So I want one more question on this. Riley Leonard is. It's fascinating because everybody's talking about Drew Aller and Shadow and all this stuff. And I said, there's something about Riley Leonard. He's got a little, just a little Josh Allen. Just to 8% Josh Allen. But you know what I like about Riley Leonard is, you know, there were a lot of reasons he could have had his head down. His defense got a couple of picks, one terrible call, took one on, two away. They trailed the running backs, banged up his own line. I like Riley Leonard. He's a kind of kid that has a short memory. I mean, if you watch his body language, urban, he's smiling, he's in a good mood, he's big, he's physical. What do you see when you see him? Because I'm trying to tell everybody on this set, I'm like, I like that kid. That's a Sunday player to me. Everybody's like, he never completes passes. What do you see with Riley Leonard?
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Urban Meyer
I see what. I see what his record is. I see a guy that's a good pastor. I see a guy that's has so much of the intangibles that you see his leadership is walking around the sideline, his energy. Like you said, he's always a positive person. A person is what their record is. That's what Riley Leonard is. He's a winner. He's going to win. You know, is he good enough to be a starter in the National Football League? No, he's not physically. But there's other guys in the NFL I've seen have great careers that weren't good enough physically. They just have the other stuff and he has the other stuff. Remember, a man is what his record is. That's. I see Riley Rudder. What is he. He's playing for the national championship. His career reigning percentage is extremely high for a quarterback. His completion percentage in yards per game is average. That's what I see. I see a Winner that has all the values. And I'm speaking. I had a guy like that called J.T. barrett.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Urban Meyer
J.T. barrett is what his record is. He's a winner.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah. So let's talk Ohio State and Texas. So I told everybody, get your, get your welder's mask on. This is going to be Fourth of July. It's going to be fireworks and splash plays. So when you go into a game like this, you're the Ohio State coach and you know Texas has nothing but talent and you. They're going to make you look bad. You may fall behind. There's going to be. This is a game that resilience matters because it's not going to be. I mean, I, I think last night's game looked like you think it would look. I think tonight's going to be the opposite. When you go into a game, and this may be the only time this year Ohio State has met their match physically. What is the messaging? Because Texas played Georgia twice, they've met their match physically. Ohio State, I don't think has. And this is the first one. What's the messaging?
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Urban Meyer
Well, the messaging is. And I actually sent this to a friend of mine, when talent becomes equated, it's not the pregame talk. It's not the. It's simply the most prepared team will win this game. And the team that practiced the best had the best preparation. I'm not just talking about practice, but their bodies are in great shape. And that, that takes so many hours of prep for a player, especially this late in the season. The guy that spent. Spends them so much time in the training room getting dry, needled, getting up the. The cupping, all the different prehab things that get your body at the point to be at its best tonight. So the most prepared team will win. And I also believe that Texas or Ohio State, how Ryan Day manages the game and Sark will be how their defense is playing. If their defense is playing well. I would always have two different game plans in my mind as a game manager. If my defense is going out like it did against Oklahoma in the Orange bowl in 2008, and we held Sam Bradford and that offense to seven points at halftime, it was a whole different animal if it was 21 to. Yeah, whatever it was. So I think the first half, and I think this is really cool for the viewer to watch this, the defense is going to set. It has to, because you go out there and do something stupid early in that first quarter. This is not Tennessee, all due respect, and it's not Oregon you're right. This Texas team is toe for toe. The only team in the country that can line up against Ohio State.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Urban Meyer
And they can.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Urban Meyer
So how your defense plays is going to how you manage that game.
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Colin Cowherd
So listen, Saban did this where he pulled a quarterback and inserted a quarterback in a national championship game. So let's just. And I know that's guts. That is. That is hard to do. So would there be a point tonight if you're Sark, Would it be a score thing? Would it be a confidence thing? Because I saw Ryan Day when Will Howard struggled. I watched him change his game plan against Michigan. Like I saw him play as Jane. You can't do that tonight. You can't just say we're not going to throw as much. What would, what would you have to see with Sark that you would be concerned about the quarterback situation, which has been inconsistent for Texas this year.
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Urban Meyer
Year. Yeah. Here, here's the thing about Arch. I think he's going to be a great player. I'm not, I'm about to say something that I, I don't want to offend anybody, that he's not a great player. He's going to be a great player. When I watched and I did, I went back and watched a bunch of his tape. It's not like he's overwhelming yet. It's not like he comes in the game and it's just, it, it. He blows the doors off of everybody else. So I don't see that drastic. You know, I do believe Arch Banning at some point will be a high draft pick and all that. That time is not now.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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Urban Meyer
And so I think he's doing the right thing with. Can you. Quinn, yours has won the big games. Do you make it. Do you do the Nick Saban, which is one of the gutsiest move I've ever seen in that kind of scenario. Only Sark knows that because we're not privy to being in practice. And what Arch is really capable of doing, what I've seen, he's got a great future. But right now, one years is the best opportunity to win.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Okay. So years ago, I don't know if I told you this years and years ago, I think you were coaching at Florida and the other place, the other big sports network had Ohio State played lsu. And I saw you in the hallway, I said, hey, I was doing a commercial break. I said, hey, Coach, get over here. What's this game going to look like? And you told me off the air, you said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it looked exactly like you told me it was going to look like. And then I went on the air and I pretended that I knew that. And I didn't give you any credit. I just said, you know, here's what the game's going to look like, I guarantee you. So anyway, now everybody knows that. So tonight I'm not asking for a score. What do you think the game looks like tonight? What should I, what, what kind of tempo, pace? What does it look like?
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Urban Meyer
So Ohio State 2024 was a slow starting team, and the Wolverine game was really bad as far as a slow start. They actually fell behind. Marshall seven, nothing. I remember, you know, we had, we were there and I've obviously watched other games against Tennessee, something happened. And I think all the criticism about Chip Kelly and Ryan Day not being creative enough, not being explosive enough, not getting the best players of all, they went after him like, I mean, I mean, it was, we saw the scores, the score, the game was over in the first quarter. Yeah, I, I'm more, I hope they don't do that. I hope they're conscientious about how aggressive they are because I went back and watched Texas, Texas has. This will be the best secondary. This will be the best defensive line. And Ohio State still has three offense linemen down up front. I think you see how that defense plays. The fans don't want to hear that, but you got to go win this game. How do you go in the game, see how your defense plays, manage the game. I would not be reckless in that first quarter. I think against Tennessee and I mean, I loved it, it was fantastic. But you overmatched Oregon. You had better players in Oregon. You had much better players in Tennessee tonight. I think they, I think they have the better roster, but I think it's fairly close.
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Colin Cowherd
Very excited. Urban Meyer, Fox Sports college football. He's on the big noon kickoff. And you were inducted into the Orange bowl hall of Fame last night. How about that? And then.
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Urban Meyer
And so you, you drove Penn State fans were. The Penn State fans didn't like that. And the Notre Dame fans were getting after Brady or Matt Leiner. So it was. Well, I looked at the Orange bowl gal and I says, holy cow. That ever happened. She was. Happens every year. Yeah. I mean, if there's fans at the other school, yeah, you get hammered pretty good. So it's fun, though.
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Colin Cowherd
Notre Dame fans. Notre Dame fans are. I don't know. I've told you this before. You had, you had an opportunity to take a Notre Dame job and you didn't. I know that you don't want to say, that you're a humble guy. But Notre Dame, you. You were, you were an assistant there for years, and I'm watching them last night. I love when Notre Dame's good. There's just. I mean, when you were on that campus, you had a Florida job, you had an Ohio State job, you did smaller colleges. Did Notre Dame feel a little different, all things considered?
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Urban Meyer
Well, it's fun. It's. There's no place like it. I made the comment that I got a little choked up the first time when I saw them win a couple weeks ago against Georgia. You know, who'd have thought in this day and age that they would basically control a game against the University of Georgia and SEC powerhouse. I know I recruited there. I made the comment that I remember when you hear those words, lake effect coming off of Lake Michigan, there's only a certain type of player that you can recruit to Notre Dame. December, January, it's changed a little bit. But I mean, academics are real. You know, I was. There's 7. 7,500 students there. You know how many students go to the game? College, 7500. It's, it's, it's, it's incredible place. It's the purity of college football. I love their coach. I love that place. And I, I was the same as you. When Notre Dame's great, it's good for. Great for college football.
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Colin Cowherd
Good seeing you, coach.
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Urban Meyer
Good seeing you. Call.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. Great. Urban Meyer. Yeah, It's. If you love college football and the traditions and the stadiums and I thought last night was just so rich. The. It's. The fabric of college football starts with. To me, it doesn't start with the sec. When I was a kid growing up, Washington was great, Ohio State was great. Penn State, Notre Dame, Michigan. It was cold weather, teams that were grimy. USC always had a bunch of players. Texas was hit and miss, but Nebraska was great. SEC wasn't as dominant like Georgia. You know, the Herschel Walker Georgia team with Buck Ballou at quarterback one and Natty didn't. I don't know if they completed more than one or two passes. But I mean, when I, When I kind of think of college football and its history, it was a lot of these northern powers, and then over the last 20 years, it's kind of veered down into sunshine states. But I just think there's something pretty cool about Penn State, Michigan. I mean, I was thinking this last night, watching it with J. Mac, I'm thinking, are we going to get a Big Ten Final off Michigan's win. I mean, what? What? Because right now, I mean, SEC fans, the new guy in the neighborhood. Texas is their last shot. It's either going to be Northern power Ohio State or Northern power Notre Dame. I'll tell you. I'll just tell you this right now. Ohio State, Notre Dame television rating may beat usc.
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J. Mac
Texas, what's your line for that?
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Colin Cowherd
Who, who, who.
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J. Mac
How much is Ohio State favored by.
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Colin Cowherd
Over at Notre Dame?
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J. Mac
Yeah, I mean, because Texas is powered Notre Dame, so it's got to be.
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Colin Cowherd
Bigger than six, six and a half. Yeah. I think Ohio State would win.
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J. Mac
I think it might be seven and a half. Maybe. Maybe higher.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't even know if I'd want to. I wouldn't.
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J. Mac
You've watched this Notre Dame offense now closely the last couple games. They don't have much going.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but I've watched this coaching staff in this secondary.
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J. Mac
Yeah, no, definitely.
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Colin Cowherd
And they came out of it pretty healthy last night, didn't they?
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J. Mac
Offensive linemen went down.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
I don't know if it's serious or long term, but. But I think if you're a Notre Dame fan, you're probably rooting Texas here, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, I think Notre Dame could beat Texas.
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J. Mac
Rooting for Texas. You want to. You want to see them?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think they could beat Texas. I'm not saying they would. They'd be an underdog. But I could see Notre Dame getting into Texas's head.
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J. Mac
Yeah. Penn State receivers had zero catches. Jeremiah Smith will have three on the first drive.
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Colin Cowherd
Maybe. I mean, come on. Yeah. If you've been thinking about home security, now's the time to join the millions of Americans who trust simply say, go to simplisafecollen.com, get 50% off a new system with a professional monitoring plan. There is no safe like SimpliSafe. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hi, it's the Herd. NFL playoffs. We're talking about NFL playoffs. You bet we are. Get in on the Action and DraftKings sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Scoring touchdowns is the key to winning in the NFL playoffs. And the key to you scoring big is betting on them at DraftKings, the number one place to bet touchdowns. Just download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Super easy to do. 90 seconds and use the code herdherd. Here's another reason to watch your favorite players crush it in the playoffs. New customers bet five bucks to get 200 in bonus bets instantly, so score big during the NFL playoffs with DraftKings Sportsman. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now use the code HERDHERD. New customers can bet 5 bucks get 200 instantly in bonus bets only on DraftKings Sportsbook with code HERD H E R D. The crown is yours.
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Jon Stewart
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Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Burkin Demers.
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Jason Demers
Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former center, 700 game, NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst. And boy, oh boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
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Adnan Virk
I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?
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Jason Demers
Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what, tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
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Adnan Virk
Yeah, you're soon going to find out we're not. Not just hockey talk. We had all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear in NHL.
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Jason Demers
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Adnan Virk
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Colin Cowherd
Want to thank Urban Meyer for stopping by. Jordan Schultz is gonna be joining us coming up next hour. He's got all sorts of information. There's a lot of stuff percolating on the Raiders and the Raiders job and the jets job. There is all sorts of information out there. Ohio State, Texas tonight, J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
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J. Mac
All right, let's start with Tyreek Hill. Remember how he refused to go into the game in Week 18 against the jets and then he won. He said, bro, I'm out of here. Well, yesterday his agent stepped up, Drew Rosenhaus and said, tyreek, at the end of the day, is committed to the Miami Dolphins.
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Urban Meyer
Oh, boy.
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J. Mac
Just this is gonna be an off season sideshow. My guess is that they try to move him Quietly before it becomes like a big, huge story.
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Colin Cowherd
I totally agree.
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J. Mac
I don't know if that's gonna be easy because I, I don't think that there's this, hey, we gotta get Tyreek Hill in the build. Like, I don't think anybody out there saying that.
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Colin Cowherd
So Stefan Diggs left Buffalo. They still dominated. Tyreek Hill left Kansas City still dominated. Zay Flowers hurt for the Ravens, still nine and a half point favorites. Start looking at all the teams with star receivers. CD Lamb and the Cowboys didn't make the playoffs. I mean, you just start looking around at the best wide, but yet the best running backs in the league, the Lions, Saquon Barkley. Start looking around. Buffalo got James Cook, Derrick Henry. The running backs now equal winning. The receivers equal big contracts.
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J. Mac
So everybody's trying to piece together why this happened or how it happened. I saw a stat that the top six running teams in the NFL all made the playoffs. That's the first time it's ever happened. And I think a lot of it has to do with the two high, the COVID two sacred safeties.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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J. Mac
The safety's deep. We don't want to give up the big play. Fine. We'll just take Saquon Barkley at five or six yards a clip and that's what the smart teams are doing while everyone else is like, oh, we don't want to run, we want to pass. I, I don't, I don't need to get Tyree Kill in the building if I'm a playoff team.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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J. Mac
I don't think he puts me over the top.
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Colin Cowherd
Not at that price point. No, no. No interest whatsoever. Yeah. And the. Also something we have, we both, you and I know is that college football there is like this year, for instance. Instance, it's a very good offensive line draft, it's a great running back draft, and once again, it's a very strong wide receiver draft. So when a business furnishes you with certain employees, it gives you an advantage as a general manager. There is no reason unless you have Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. There are very few receivers I'm just going to give massive contracts to. I mean, Devonte Adams, since he left Green Bay, can't win games. Raiders Jazz. What's the again like him? How much am I going to pay him?
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J. Mac
And there's two tight ends who we love, the Penn State and Michigan Loveland. They're not quite Brock Bowers, but they're not far below him. Yeah, it's a good draft. We're gonna have a lot of fun leading up to the draft. Next story is good news for the Eagles. Jalen Hurts has cleared concussion protocol as expected. He is now in line to start against the Packers. He had a good game in the season opener against the Packers. He did throw two picks, but dead two touchdowns, 278 yards got the win. I think we expected him to be cleared. Obviously this is very good news. And now the question is, what about the other quarterback, Jordan Love? Is he really hurt or no?
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, Green Bay. Green Bay is a team that started the year strangely and finished the year strangely. I mean, they had injuries to start and we, they surprised us. Us being effective with Malik Willis and then at the end of the year they didn't play very well and he had a couple key injuries and I just don't like where Green Bay is today, by the way. I like that Denver's in the playoffs, but they kind of struggled in their last two or three starts. So like Denver and Green Bay coming to the weekend against the Bills playing great and the Eagles playing great. I don't love big favorites. Love them both. I just think Philadelphia, if you go take out the last week when they rest people, you go for about a six since week week four or five. Go look. We had it earlier. Go look at Jalen Hurts numbers since week four. J. Mac, it's like, it's like MVP stuff. They're just not asking him because Lamar and Josh are so great and Darnold's getting so much of our attention, we forget how good Baker Mayfield's been this year and how good Jalen Hurts has been this year. So I, I think this a tough spot in Philadelphia.
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J. Mac
Yeah, I, I like the Eagles. I, I would consider packers in the first half because the Eagles are a slow starting team, poor game plans, and then they turn it on the second half. LeFlore, of course, a good, very good coach.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
So I, I think packers are really competitive. May lead at the half. Like if you're interested in that kind of bet. Final story. Colin is the Raiders. They parted ways with GM Tom Telesco after one season. They also dumped their head coach, Antonio Pierre. According to Pro Football Talk, the timing of Telesco's firing shows the GM was let go to clear the decks for a new head coach to hire someone he's more familiar with as a gm. This, I mean, that sounds extremely logical. I think it's fair to draw that conclusion. The question is, who is the head coach? Because I don't think you let just any head coach come in. You're not Letting Aaron Glenn come in and pick his gf.
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Colin Cowherd
I can tell you this. Vrabel was not on the Raiders radar two weeks ago, three weeks ago. You know, obviously Mark Davis had some idea he was firing Antonio Pierce two to three weeks ago. @ that time, Vrabel wasn't on the radar. So I think Tom Brady now has significant influence. I mean, Brady essentially, it feels like, is running the Raiders. I mean, that, that's, I mean, there's no coach and there's no gm, and that means the GM staff, a lot of those people will be like, oh, so I, I don't know what they're, I don't know what they're doing. I, I, Vrabel's a very good candidate. This is not a very good job.
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J. Mac
Is it possible that Vrabel looked at the Patriots, talked to him, interviewed, and was just like, I don't, I don't really want to follow Belichick. This is not a winning proposition for me. I don't want not care that we got drink, baby.
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Colin Cowherd
What about New England Isn't good. Ownership quarterback is set, and I'm going to have personnel connections.
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J. Mac
You already been there, done that, you know, all right, maybe he wants to go west, hang out with Brady. Maybe his wife likes Vegas. There's a lot of stuff we don't know. And frankly, if I get to come in and you, hey, Mike, you want the job? You can pick your GM them. Oh, really? I don't know if the Patriots are letting him do that. Right.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Wolf is it. Elliott Wolf. They let go of Gerard Mayo, but I think Wolf retained his job, didn't he? Yeah. And by the way, he got Drake May. Right. I mean, we'll see if the class is any good, but, yeah, we don't.
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J. Mac
Know if they have the negative history. I, I don't know. I'm fascinated by what comes next for the Raiders because if they go Vrabel and then Aaron Rodgers, that is all of a sudden maybe the most interesting team in the league next year.
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Colin Cowherd
But here's the thing. You have to consider this. I mean, I, I said this when USC joined the Big Ten with Harbaugh leaving. James Franklin's never been a big game coach. Right. And Ryan Day was sort of, you know, hit and miss. I was like, well, you already play Oregon. Moving to the Big Ten is easier than Oklahoma going to the sec where I've got Kirby Smart, Josh Hyple, Lane, Kiffin Sark, like, right. So when I look at the Raiders job, it is impossible for me not to see Mahomes, Herbert, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Jim Harbaugh. If Frable took that job, that is the best coaching division in the history of the sport. You have to consider a lot of things when you enter a position. So one of the reasons I like New England, I get stability in a quarterback. But they're at a low point because Gerard Mayo looked over his skis. Well, I mean, Antonio Pierce didn't look over his skis. He just didn't have a quarterback. So, I mean, anything you do in New. If you won seven games in New England and you had a good draft, people would be like, hey, the future is here. If you won eight games with the Raiders, people would be like, yeah, Kansas City won 12, Harbaugh won 11, Payton won 10. You're a doormat, Peyton twice a year. Harbaugh twice a year. Andy Reid twice a year.
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J. Mac
Well, you know, okay, so McVay, remember in week 18, McVay could have played his guys, and I, I think there was a chance that they could have moved up. He didn't care who he was facing. Is it the Vikings? Is it the Lions? I. I don't care. I'm resting my guys. I'm good. I think we can handle both those teams. Some of these coaches are just ultra confident. And it's possible that Vrabel says, okay, Sean Payton had a good year. So Chargers, look at that roster. You could argue Raiders have as much talent maybe as the Chargers. Chargers don't have a lot of offensive talent. And I just. These coaches are cocky and arrogant. And this is going to be real interesting because that would be the best coaching division in the league, like, by a considerable amount. We'll see who the Bears get that division hasn't.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, let's be honest about it. It's the same in the NFC North. Dan Campbell, Matt LaFleur, Kevin O'Connell.
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J. Mac
That's a tough division now, but I.
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Colin Cowherd
Go to New England. We don't know if Sean McDermott's going to be there. If they get bounced in the playoffs, who's the jets coach this week? And Mike McDaniel. You know, the media loves him, but, like, they, they can't play when it gets chilly. So I mean that. I mean, the New England job, ownership, inner quarterback division. Listen, you almost have an advantage coaching the Patriots because if you don't beat Josh Allen, he's so great, people are like, well, I mean, that's unrealistic to beat Josh Allen. You almost get a built. I mean, you had, like, when you had to go in Elway's division or Brady's division. It was understood. Or Peyton Manning's division? You're playing for a wild card.
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J. Mac
Who.
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Colin Cowherd
Who was.
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J. Mac
What was the last time the Raiders.
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Colin Cowherd
Went to a Super Bowl?
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J. Mac
I. I don't even know. But Belichick been to the Super Bowl a billion times in New England. It became expected. I think there are bigger expectations in New England.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah.
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J. Mac
As opposed to you go to the Raiders. Hey, man, just win some games, get us to the playoffs. We'll be thrilled.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but I like it. I like expectations. I want my bosses to think, let's do great things together, you know, go for the silver. Just doesn't fire me. Up J. Mac for the noose. Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The Herd LIE News live in la. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio Apple. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most, most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Ko Vino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. You can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile. Keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device, credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months.
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Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast the Daily Show Podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Adnan Virk
What's up everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Firkin Demers.
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Jason Demers
Hey, I I'm Jason Immers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst and boy oh boy does daddy have a lot to say.
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Adnan Virk
I love you by the way on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?
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Jason Demers
Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture and you know what, tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
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Adnan Virk
Yeah, you're soon gonna find out we're not just hockey talk. We had all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear on NHL.
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Jason Demers
Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Ferkie.
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Adnan Virk
That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burkin Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
So I like Ohio State tonight to beat Texas. I think both programs have splash players and five star guys, so I think Texas has been inconsistent all year. I can't get my arms around them. I'm not sure I love Quinn Ewers. He's hit and miss to me. Will Howard played terrible against Michigan. Big strong guy moves. Well, I think Ohio State is, over the last couple of games has played with an intensity and sort of a singular focus that is hard to duplicate. They just, we see this sometimes. We've seen it in the NFL playoffs and we've seen it in the college football. Some teams just get hot and they're Just on a mission and I think that's what Ohio State is. Here's Ryan Day on facing the horns tonight. I think that when you think about, you know, the players and the coaches in this new format week after week, the work that they're putting in, but also for our fans, the lengths that they've come to, you know, decide to get on a plane and you know, buy tickets, tickets to come to, to this game and then throughout the country, you know, I think it all matters and I think it's great for college football and it's great for Ohio State and it's great for Texas. Yeah, I think it's going to be a lot of, a little bit of a wild shootout. It's going to be a lot of fun. I think both coaches are safe if they lose. But I will say three of the top five winningest programs in the history of college football are left. Urban Meyer was on earlier. I think you and I are both what we noticed last night. Riley Leonard, who I like more than everybody else, and Drew Aller, they're, they're not first round quarterbacks. Quinn Ewers and Will Howard are not first round quarterbacks. This is a down year for quarterbacks. Now last year was unbelievable. Michael Penix and Bo Nixon, the same conference. J.J. mcCarthy, you know, I mean Caleb Williams, I mean look at all the, look at all the west coast quarterbacks that have flourished. Penix, Bo Nicks, Caleb, Jaden Daniels down in the SEC Last year was an unbelievable all time quarterback draft class. This year I think Cam Ward's the most talented shedeurs, the most polished. It's, it's a, it's a pretty average class. But here's Urban saying earlier he thinks Quinn Ewers, not Arch Manning gives them the best chance to win at Texas.
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Urban Meyer
He's going to be a great player. When I watched and I did, I went back and watched a bunch of his tape. It's not like he's overwhelming yet. It's not like he comes in the game and it's just it. He blows the doors off of everybody else. So I don't see that drastic. You know, I do believe Arch Banning at some point will be a high draft pick and all that. That time is not now. And so I think he's doing the right thing with Quinn. Yours has won the big games. Do you make it? Do you do the Nick Saban, which is one of the gutsiest move I've ever seen in that kind of scenario. Only Sark knows that because we're not privy to being in practice and what Arch is really capable of doing, what I've seen, he's got a great future. But right now, one years is the best opportunity to win.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And it's really interesting that one of the things that I really like about college football now is like Sark is like you're not going to go undefeated anymore. You just got to get over that stuff. You got to get over it. Ohio State lost twice and I think they look like the best team in the country by a touchdown. And they lost twice. Once the 20 point favorite, the minute Penn State had they won last night and gone to the Natty would have played 17 games. That's an NFL schedule with kids. So it's like it's just college football now. I always thought one of my knocks on college football, there weren't enough big games. Everybody was afraid to schedule big games at a conference because if you lost, you got knocked out of the national championship. So the unintended benefit of the playoff is teams are now going to start scheduling tougher out of conference games. It's okay. I mean, USC had Notre Dame and LSU at a conference and then played A and M in a bowl game. It's okay. You can lose games. And I, I just think college football now, I always felt like in college football before this year, by late October, 90% of the teams, 95% of the teams were out of the Natty discussion. Well, in the NFL we know there's like six teams that can't win opening day, another six by Thanksgiving that are ridiculous. But you're kind of, you're down to, you got about a dozen teams at Thanksgiving. You're like, well, if they get healthy and hot. And Sark talked about it yesterday like, like college football now it is over. It's changed now.
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Adnan Virk
I think in this day and age of college football, to think that you're just going to go unblemished is probably not realistic. Especially not in our two conferences with the, you know, the amount of quality teams that you have to play week in and week out and the grind that it puts on your, on your team, not only physically, but mentally. And it's, I think the ones that can be standing here January 9th and 10th playing for an opportunity to play for a national championship. I think, you know, the credit is due to all four teams.
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Colin Cowherd
And the other thing you have to consider, and this is going to upset people in the sec, when you watch Penn State and Notre Dame and Ohio State, they look better than those southern teams that wasn't the case two years ago, what has happened? A lot of money in those Northern schools. Lot. A lot of money at Notre Dame. A lot of money at Michigan. A lot of money at Ohio State. A lot of money. Penn State boosters. And I think college football programs have gone after the SEC and poached and rated the SEC's rosters to a higher level than Big Ten rosters. And I, so I think, I think what you're looking at is happening now. Everybody's going to the SEC and saying, like I watched Georgia this year. The minute they had an offensive line ish injury, Georgia's old line was nothing. It was average. And so I think, I mean, you, you lose brock Bowers and lad McConkey and you think, well, we're, we're Georgia. Well, all it takes is one inc. Injury to another receiver. You're out of players. I mean, that's all it takes. So the SEC team still have very good players, but they do not have the depth they had three years ago. They do not have the depth. And the SEC is such a physical league that they probably, if you looked it up, have more injuries than other leagues. So you lose depth, you have more injuries. There's more good teams in the SEC than other conferences and they're all beating each other up. And now even Georgia doesn't have the depth. Alabama doesn't have the depth. Depth. LSU didn't have the depth. So I don't know. I mean, I'm looking at these northern teams. Michigan was better than every SEC team last year. Ohio State's better than every SEC team. I think Notre Dame just prudent with Georgia. They're better than every SEC team. And I, I think, I think Penn State and Oregon could have gone toe to toe with anybody. I think Oregon could have beaten every SEC team. They just, they just ran into that buzzsaw called Ohio State. Who? And I'm not sure Texas can hang tonight. We'll see. Hour three next. Whether you're ordering wings for the game, whipping up a seven layer dip, or ordering pizza, there's something about football that makes me want to eat. And this football season, Uber Eats has the best deals for me on game day. Food no matter what I'm craving. From two for one pizza to buy one get one wings. Uber Eats. We'll be dropping new deals each week all season long. I'm in Uber Eats, the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now for game day. Terms and conditions apply. See app for details. This message brought to you by the official Whiskey of the Herd with Colin Coward Green River Whiskey Green River Whiskey is the 10th oldest distillery in Kentucky and was once the most expensive Whiskey purchased when 20 barrels were traded for shares in a gold mine. From single barrel bourbons to straight rye, Green River's the perfect combo of rich flavor and richer history. Visit greenriverwhiskey.com to discover a legend in a bottle. A product of Green River Distilling Company Owensboro, Kentucky. Alcohol by volume varies by product. Greenriverwhiskey.com Please drink responsibly. Wow. What is this place? Welcome to Cloud 9. How exactly did I get here? You're a Toyota Crown driver, and only Crown drivers ever reach this level of pure bliss. The refined but elegant design makes you sit up a little straighter. It gives you a rush of confidence as soon as you're behind the wheel and a feeling of all eyes on you. That's how the Crown transports you here. It's pretty awesome, right? The captivating Toyota Crown Family Toyota let's go places.
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Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed, listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Adnan Virk
What's up everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Verkin Demers, Jason.
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Jason Demers
Demers here, And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.
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Adnan Virk
Hey, I got a lot to say here too, okay? Each week we'll get together to chat about the sport that we love.
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Jason Demers
Tons of guests are gonna join in too. But we're not just gonna be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies. We're talking tv, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on le Table.
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Adnan Virk
Listen to NHL Unscripted with Virk and demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.