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Colin Cowherd
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Rachel Nichols
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast.
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Jason McIntyre
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Rachel Nichols
Weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon.
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Jason McIntyre
To 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@fox sportsradio.com or stream us live every day.
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Rachel Nichols
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Jason McIntyre
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Rachel Nichols
Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's hour two. JMAC is back. We are flying through it today. Lane Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles, last hour. Rachel Nichols in a couple of minutes. So we had the NBA draft last night. The top 11 picks all played college basketball. All of them. This is something you heard me go on and on about this college basketball, and I've said this for the last couple of years, is having a renaissance due to the nil. But I told Adam Silver this. I never liked the G League. It was more about compensation. The NBA became paralyzed with compensation. And college football guys aren't getting compensated. And they. Anthony, they get tackled for four years. Yeah, players deserve to be paid. And eventually they were. But the NBA got paralyzed. You gotta compensate players over. How about develop them? I mean, how. How about develop the young players? So I never liked the G League. I mean, go look at the playoffs this year. Where were all the great G League and overtime elite guys? Amen. Thompson is the best of them and he's still unpolished. Scoot Henderson Kaminga, Jalen Green. Kaminga can't even play with Steph Curry. He has no developed game. So again, if you want to just take a cash grab for a year, I think in the end the G League's regression, I mean, if you go to Kansas or Syracuse or UConn or, you know, Arizona or you're playing in big arenas, national TV or better coaching and now the compensation is at least equal and maybe slightly better. So I never bought into the G League. I thought it would. The league was just paralyzed by it. You've got to pay them. The NBA and basketball in America is a suburb sport. The best teams are in the burbs in Los Angeles. They're in the burbs, you know, like so, you know this idea that the kids, you know, they can't do one year, send him to Duke. They have chefs. I talked to Gonzaga's Mark Few about this. They got chefs, they got shoes, they're treated like royalty. You hang out for a year or two in college, go look at the NBA playoffs. Where were all the G League guys when you got down to conference finals and up? So Rick Patino talked about this yesterday on the show Kids now choosing college basketball over international and the G League.
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Rick Pitino
We've found that why go to the G League when you can make 7, $800,000? So many European basketball players, if they sign on with Olympiacos or Panathenikos or somebody lower level teams, they're going to make maybe 300, 400,000. They could go to college and Make a lot more than that. So we're finding that the European players want to come here and attend college and stay away from going to the pros.
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Rachel Nichols
You got to be careful about being idealistic because it can come off as sort of misguided or silly, you know, like a socialist running New York. It sounds maybe good in principle, but in practice, I don't want the government owning my grocery stores. So the point being is the NBA got very idealistic. This is the empirical way to help the young kids. Yeah, maybe for a year financially, but you're not developing the. If you really love somebody and you deeply care about somebody, you don't care about tomorrow, you care about their life, you care about the journey, you care about their long term viability. And not just financial, you can give anybody a couple hundred that doesn't do anything. That doesn't do anything. So I'm glad the G League is becoming less relevant because I think college basketball has been marginalized by the NBA. I think the NFL's always understood the value of college football, the coaching. I mean, you're a quarterback. Can you imagine if the NFL had a G League where you played in empty stadiums and you thought that was better than playing at Ohio State or Georgia? I mean, it's crazy. Part of what makes college basketball great, you know, Cooper Flag or the kid at Baylor, those guys played in intense national TV games, win or go home games. That's the NBA. That kind of pressure is great. Even the G League, by the way, sold out for the bag. It used to be the D League. And somebody came up and said, gatorade, okay, we're the G League. So they were always going to sell out with that. Rachel Nichols, Fox Sports NBA analyst, is now joining us. So let me ask you about this. It's an interesting draft. I said, I try not to get too high or low on anything because it's a projection draft. I do think the kid that goes to Philly and Cooper Flagg will play on good teams immediately. I watched them in college. Those are NBA players in college. Dylan Harper for Rutgers is fascinating because the whole San Antonio unit outside of de' Aaron Fox, they're kids.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
They can't drink in the hotel bar. What is the takeaway on San Antonio's night?
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Unnamed Analyst
Rachel had a great night, which is no surprise, by the way. This is their third time picking in the top four, I think, in the last four years. I am a huge fan of Harper's, like a lot of people are. I think that he is going to be a Great part of that young core and it gives him the flexibility. They obviously are heavy at that position. Now, the reason you have dear and Fox there is to make Victor Wembanyama feel like you are serious about winning because he is so competitive and also to be a more veteran voice. I know we think he's young, but he is the vet on that team and to sort of teach guys about what it is to be in the league eventually. Our castle is Harper. Are they going to be better than him and is Fox going to be a trade piece? Possibly. But the way San Antonio is looking at all of this is they are trying to play positionless basketball. They are really going in that direction. And they are also embracing defense. And both of their picks in the first round last night were defensive minded guys, guys who are aggressive defensively. You have the player who is the consensus projection for defensive player of the year again in Victor Wembanyama. If you have guys who want to play hard in defense around him, even if you're not quite there yet offensively to compete with the top of the west defense wins championships, man. And I think they can go a long way with two guys who have a defensive mindset as well as wanting to score.
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Rachel Nichols
So let's talk NBA because we're going to kind of wrap it up today for our NBA coverage for a while. One of the things that I think needs to be addressed, I think you would agree with this because you have a history of covering the NFL. The one thing the NFL does really well, they will change a rule in mid season. Yep. Like they had a Super bowl between. Was it New England and Philadelphia. The catch rule changed during the game, you bobbling touchdown. And my take is you have to act urgently when you have billion dollar games. And I think eight ACL tears, three in the playoffs. I think the game is faster, the pacing's better. I mean Draymond Green said this the other day in a podcast. He said he goes no offense, but guys used to walk it up the floor. That's over. And I think the NBA Halliburton's out for the year, Tatum's out for the year. I think they need to address it now. First round, five games or your takeaway on Adam Silver. And what is a problem that I think's only going to increase?
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, these Achilles injuries, they're not as devastating. They don't end careers the way they used to, but they end teams plans. I mean, just look at what the Boston Celtics have been doing over the last couple days. They're Unraveling what was a championship level team because of Jayson Tatum and that Achilles injury. I asked Adam Silver at the beginning of the Finals, what are we thinking right now about shortening the regular season? Where is the thought process? And he was adamant again that there is no move to do that. There is obviously a lot of advocates who will tell you if you keep the dates of the NBA season the same, but you play fewer games, you give guys more of a chance to rest between games, take a little bit of a break from that physical bumping around. Draymond Green is absolutely right. It's not just they used to walk it up the floor. They cover about 10% more miles in a game than they used to. The speed of the game is measurably different and the physicality of the game is measurably different. We all remember 90s basketball, basketball and talk about it lovingly, but someone has gone and charted how many times these guys hit the floor and it's the highest now that it's ever.
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Rachel Nichols
Wow.
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Unnamed Analyst
So we just have to have the rules and the schedule catch up with that. And if they possibly. What I asked Adam was if they possibly have some expansion dollars coming in in the next few years, maybe use that to soften the blow of fewer games. Because of course we all know the reason there aren't fewer games because it's less money.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah, that's a great point. You know, I was saying this the other day. It used to be a guy blew his acl. It was an old guy injury. Like an old guy plays handball with his college roommate at 58 and blows out his ACL. Now it's young guys. So that, that is just fatigue and wear and tear and it's okay. Like Michael Jordan in the prime of the NBA played a five game first round. It's okay. So, you know, it's well chronicled that when James Dolan was building the sphere, he was removed from basketball on a day to day. And all of a sudden the Knicks got pragmatic and patient and profoundly productive. He's back. They run off tibs. Okay, what are we talking about now? Can we have an update in the Knicks coach?
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Unnamed Analyst
Well, I was very interested that Nico Harrison said last night Jason Kidd will be coaching the Mavericks next year. You guys played the clip a few minutes ago. That's all well and good for him to say that if, and I have no idea if he has, but if Jason Kidd decides to go to the Mavericks and say I don't want to be here anym, do you Want that guy coaching your team? Do you want a guy who doesn't want to be there talking to the media every day, dealing with your players every day? So I think Jason Kidd does have some agency in this situation. And there are a lot of things that are attractive about the Knicks job. I got to disagree with what you said earlier in the show, Colin. I think the Knicks job could be more attractive for Jason Kidd. Here's the first reason. Money. Here's the second reason. Money. Also money. Jason Kidd is the 10th highest paid coach in the NBA. He earns about $8.5 million a year. Steve Kerr earns 17 and a half million dollars a year. James Dolan could top that if he wants. If he really wants to go out and get Jason Kidd, he could decide, I'm going to make you the highest paid coach in the NBA. So that is one big factor. The other big factor is, yes, James Dolan's ownership has kept some people away, but Jason Kidd played for James Dolan. He understands the spectacle of New York. And the ownership for the Mavs has not proven itself to be wonderful in these last six months either. So I don't think that's a detriment. I think the Knicks can be kind of a little bit of a dream job for Jason Kidd. And in terms of competitiveness, yes, Dallas is going to be way more competitive than we expected because of Cooper Flag. However, they are still in the West. The west is going to be crazy next year. While the east, the Knicks are going to be a favorite to at least reach the conference finals. They got to Game 6 of the conference finals last year. The team they played, their star blew out his Achilles and the team before that blew out his Achilles. So I just think there are so many things about that New York job that could, could make Jason Kidd say, I don't want to be in here anymore, Dallas. And then Nico Harrison can say whatever he wants, but I just don't see him staying on a team where he doesn't want to be coaching.
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Rachel Nichols
Rachel Nichols, FOX Sports. You know, I did this earlier in the week and I was surprised. The pushback I got. I said, we've got seven champs in seven years. And I said, here's the order and I think it's pretty close, but I got amazing pushback when I put the Lakers number one. And Nick Wright also pointed this out. The year The Lakers won, LeBron was close to his prime and AD wasn't his prime. And of the other remaining teams, Nobody had a 1, 2 as good as those two and before COVID the Lakers were 243 and would have been the home court favorite. Go back to that. So you're a good person to ask. You grew up in the east but you live out west. People thought I was an abject homer. I'll make folks they had the best one two combo. They were an unbeatable team that year and they got home court stripped from them. Go back to that 2020 season you were in LA. Tell about the late. Everybody thinks Covid was a break for them.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm like, no, no, no.
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Rachel Nichols
It was a negative for them.
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Unnamed Analyst
Colin. I was in the bubble. So I can tell you from living there that that championship was as earned as any other championship. I think it is ridiculous, this national conversation of is there an asterisk? Is it the Mickey Mouse championship? Alex Caruso even made a joke about it after the Thunder won saying, oh, now I've got a real one. I don't understand that at all. It was one of the toughest environments I have ever seen. No crowds there, no home court advantage. To sort of get you riled up, you had to withstand a day to day that made several other teams just quit. I watched the Clippers just quit, give up and say we want out of here. So there is no question to me that 2020 was a real and hard earned title. Now on your list, I would personally put the 24 Celtics above the 2020 Lakers. I just think that that was one of the most complete teams I have ever seen play basketball. Between what they could do offensively, five out with the way every single guy in that team could play really strong defense. And the talent level of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown that shown in that series and that finals just impressed me so much. So I would put them actually at the top of that list. But the 2020 Lakers championship. I'll fight those people, Colin. I'll fight them. That was no joke.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah. And the following year the Lakers were the number one seed as well until LeBron got hurt. So they, they had about a year and a half where they were really, really rolling defensively and they could score. Kcp and Caruso, Rachel Nichols, as always, good seeing you.
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Unnamed Analyst
Great to see you, Colin.
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Rachel Nichols
So you see J. Mac, you, you think it's always anti Lakers, but Nick, Nick came on Tuesday and I said sometimes you'll do a rant or a list or something and people just are adamant and it's like guys, anybody in America, you know this J. Mac, Anybody in America in any field that succeeded during COVID I mean Jim Harbaugh, Michigan, just gave up.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
Belichick's like, no, we're just. I mean, like elite people. Elite restaurateurs, elite. I mean, people in tech. Hands in the air. It was. It was. I just. People are missing out on how good that team was.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, what was his take on having the Thunder sixth out of seven? Because I think the Raptors might have been more impressive. They took down a Sixers team with embiid Jimmy Butler, and they had. And. And Ben Simmons, when he was actually good, like, that was a strong team. This. This Thunder team rolled some weak teams. A lot of guys were injured. I was unimpressed with the Thunder title and the fact that the celebration wrapped up at 11 o' clock at Applebee's earlier this week. I'm sure you saw that last call. It's like 11 o' clock in OKC.
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Rachel Nichols
Okay. We don't need to take any shots.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, we do.
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Rachel Nichols
Live in Chicago.
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Jay
It's the herd.
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Rachel Nichols
One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand, whenever you'd like.
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Jay
Hi, this is Jay.
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Unnamed Producer
I'm the producer of the Paulie and Tony Fusco show.
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Jay
Usually in these promos, they ask you.
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Unnamed Producer
To listen to the show. I'm here to ask you, please don't listen to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to this show so it can get canceled.
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Rachel Nichols
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell are you doing in our studio?
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Colin Cowherd
Get him, Paulie.
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Rachel Nichols
Ignore that fool.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco.
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Rachel Nichols
Show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever.
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Colin Cowherd
You get your podcast.
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Rachel Nichols
He's still moving.
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Unnamed Producer
Malcolm Gladwell here. I recently recorded the first episode of Smart Talks with IBM where I learned how AI agents are joining AI assistants as a major productivity tool. Let's start with AI agents. AI agents can reason, plan, and collaborate with other AI tools to autonomously perform tasks for a user. Brian Bitzel, an expert from IBM, gave me an example of how a college freshman might use an AI agent.
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Brian Bitzel
As a new student, you may not know how do I deal with my health and wellness issue? How many credits am I going to get for this given class? You could talk to someone and find out some of that, but maybe it's a little bit sensitive and you don't.
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Jay
Want to do that.
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Unnamed Producer
Bissell told me you could build an AI agent, a resource for new students that helps them navigate a new campus, register for classes, access the services they need, and even schedule appointments on their behalf, which in turn buys them more time to focus on their actual schoolwork.
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Brian Bitzel
We can see patterns of how agents and assistants can help employees and customers and end users be more productive, automate workflows so they're not doing certain types of repetitive work over and over again and streamlining their lives and making data more accessible to them 24 hours a day.
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Rachel Nichols
Based on a comment by Josh Kroenke, who's the president of the Denver Nuggets, he brought up the idea of trading. It would be, you know, last resort of trading the joker. They were talking about the aprons and the new cap and I said to me, there are seven untradable athletes in America today. Caitlin Clark, Patrick Mahomes I think are at the very, very top. I think it's Shohei Otani, Jokic, the best player in the NBA, Josh Allen, Aaron Judge, and I think Jaden Daniels is the next. I think he's going to be the Patrick Mahomes, although stylistically he's more Lamar Jackson. I think he's going to be the next. He's going to be the Mahomes of the NFC. And people bring up WEMBY and I'm like, listen, miss 40 games, big guys at 7 4, historically they don't last that long. Blood clot issue worries me. I saw That. I think that was Chris Bosh's issue. People say Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's passer rating in the playoffs is like, low 80s. Josh Allen is over 100. Josh has been a great playoff performer. Lamar has it. There are critics. I think he's wonderful, but there are critics. Joe Burrow. If Joe Burrow got another significant injury, if Josh Allen got hurt tomorrow, bad. So what if. If smaller Joe Burrow did, Who's had multiple injuries, you would have to draft another quarterback.
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Jason McIntyre
You wouldn't.
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Rachel Nichols
If Mahomes or Josh Allen got hurt, he wouldn't do that. So I think there's. I think there's seven. And I. Again, I'm projecting Cooper Flag is somebody I wouldn't trade either. But he hasn't played a game yet. We don't know the one that I think I can see everybody saying J. Mac is Steph Curry. Yeah, but Michael Jordan was the face of the league. A better player in a bigger media market drove a higher rating. And he got moved.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. He got moved or he quit for the second time?
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Rachel Nichols
Well, they told him this is the last dance. They were moving off him. And so, I mean, if Michael Jordan. I always said this. If Belichick and Andy Reid can get fired, anybody can get fired in the NFL. If Michael Jordan can be escorted out of the city, like, we're done. Okay, then it's Steph Curry. I'll ask you this. If tomorrow there was a private conversation and somebody said, we'll give you a Wemby, Stefan Castle, and our second pick in the first round for Curry, if you don't take that.
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Colin Cowherd
That's just not. Come on.
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Rachel Nichols
Well, I'm just saying, nobody. The Dodgers, you can give them Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole. They would not move off Shohei Ohtani.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, no, he's the moneymaker. The market, everything lines up. But I'm just telling you, I just got a text from this gentleman named Wardell Curry, and he said, WTF is Colin talking about? They are not trading me under any circumstances. Colin, he is their franchise. They're not moving off Curry, by the way. I'm sorry. I know he's old and he's probably got one year left. Under no circumstances are the Lakers trading LeBron James. That's just not happening. There's no way it's not happening. You.
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Rachel Nichols
You.
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Colin Cowherd
They're not doing.
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Rachel Nichols
The point is, you don't know that you could trade LeBron.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, theoretically, you could trade Patrick Mahomes. If. If somebody says, hey, we got six first Round picks.
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Rachel Nichols
No, no, no, no, no, no. This isn't, this isn't sports talk radio, right? This isn't like call from an anonymous phone. You can't trade Mahomes. You could absolutely trade LeBron tomorrow for Jokic and they and Mark Walters would do it in one second.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, well, let's get Walters on the phone. There's no way they're trading LeBron. By the way, has LeBron ever been traded against.
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Rachel Nichols
Has he ever been 41?
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Colin Cowherd
Doesn't matter. He's still LeBron James. He's printing money for the Lakers.
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Rachel Nichols
The Lakers sell out. During Kobe's awful last four years, you couldn't get a ticket.
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Colin Cowherd
The LA is a bunch of star, you know, waters around here. They love LeBron. If he's healthy, they're showing up.
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Rachel Nichols
J. Mac, you can't do this. You couldn't. The Lakers have lost Magic, Kobe, Shaq. They. They traded Shaq. Shaq was Kobe.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
The Shaq was unbelievable. He was way more popular than Kobe. Shaq was. He was the unmovable force. They moved off him and didn't lose a season ticket holder.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, they also had Kobe and they were like Kobe.
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Rachel Nichols
Well, well, the Lakers have Luca.
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Colin Cowherd
If Luca and LeBron beefed, I guess. Yes, I suppose.
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Rachel Nichols
Well, there, there's the argument. There's a way you can trade LeBron tomorrow. If Luka went to the front office and said, he's out, he's out, it's over.
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Colin Cowherd
Lucas said that. That's like my hero in basketball. I know we could create these scenarios.
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Rachel Nichols
But come on, these guys, these guys, you can't take phone calls. In fact, I'll make the argument if you called, if Baltimore said, you know, we can almost see you guys from here. We're right across the Potomac. We'll give you Lamar for Jaden Daniels. You don't do it.
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Colin Cowherd
No, J.J. daniels is still on his rookie deal. Of course you don't do that.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah, and I would argue in the pocket. He may be better than Lamar right now.
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Colin Cowherd
Can we pump the brakes? He hasn't played 20 NFL games yet. Maybe not 21 games or whatever.
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Rachel Nichols
The brakes on this car don't work. I'm not, I'm not even taking a call on him tomorrow. If Luke is just like, I can't do it with LeBron, they don't even hesitate to move LeBron.
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Colin Cowherd
So again, what's the argument? That they would trade Wemby from the Spurs? What is that again? Just run it by me.
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Rachel Nichols
No, I'm saying, I'm saying right Now I always use this argument. Let's throw out a crazy hypothetical. He misses another 40 games this year, you are going to look at him differently than you did two years ago.
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Colin Cowherd
That's in a hypothetical. Let's deal in reality.
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Rachel Nichols
No, it's not bigs that get hurt in the first two years. We have a 25 year history. They get hurt again within two years.
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Colin Cowherd
Technically he didn't get hurt. He had a blood clot, a medical issue. Sorry to get all, you know.
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Rachel Nichols
Well, there's not a lot of Pro athletes at 21 that have major blood clot issues. They're there.
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Colin Cowherd
It's an outlier. It's just random. This isn't Greg Odin.
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Rachel Nichols
Okay, I'm not saying you would, but I'm saying there, there is a history of bigs and medical concerns. Early I was said six years ago in Embiida, I'm like, guys, he can't stay healthy. I was right on that.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, listen, I had fun. A fun four days watching my daughter play volleyball. I forgot how much fun this is. Colin. Oh my gosh.
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Rachel Nichols
Geez.
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Colin Cowherd
I could. I just love arguing with you, man.
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Rachel Nichols
J. Mac with the news. No, no, no.
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Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news.
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Rachel Nichols
This is the Herd line news.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, no argument here. You're Denver Broncos. Everybody loves them. Bo Nick center, year two after having probably the second best rookie quarterback season after Jaden Daniels. In a recent TV appearance, Broncos left tackle Garrett Bowles spoke highly of his quarterback.
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Unnamed Analyst
Bo's a tremendous football player, man, I'm so grateful I get to protect him and you know, you know, being his blindside protector, you know, giving him all the time in the world. You know, he's, he's a freaking agent. You know, you look at the numbers that he put up last year, you know, you know, between him and J.T. daniels, you know, those were the two young quarterbacks in the league that's going to be very successful. And you know, I have one of them behind me and you know, his demeanor, his composure, his, you know, his work ethic, you know, just always wanting to get better. And you know, his arm talent and just the way he sees. He has swag, man, he really does.
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Rachel Nichols
You know, it's funny, half the GMs were not bonicks fans. Isn't that amazing?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, he, he's like a jack of all trades, master of none. This doesn't. He's not a special player in any category. He's just good at everything.
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Rachel Nichols
I mean, he is a rookie. He threw for 3,800 yards and had 29 passing touchdowns as a rookie in a division with Harbaugh and Andy Reid and the Raiders actually defensively were okay.
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Colin Cowherd
So for anybody who thinks Bo Nix could have a sophomore slump, he opens against the Tennessee Titans crap defense and then the Indianapolis Colts average at best. Then he has the Bengals in week four and they haven't played defense in a few years. So there is a world where Knicks jets comes out hot and Honestly, Denver starts 3 and 1. Or people are like, oh, is this maybe a Super bowl team? Like this schedule? I know the Chargers game will be difficult out here at Sofi and then that Eagles jets back to back on the road is tough. But the New York Giants don't have a defense. The Cowboys defense doesn't scare anybody. You know, the Texans defense is good, not elite. I don't think. Sorry, Greg. I think there's a world where Knicks does not have a slump and Denver's and 11 win team.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah, I mean, it just was interesting. I remember going, I saw Bo Nicks play twice live. And I remember the second time I went to Utah, it was in Utah and I got a seat in the second row and because I wanted to be behind the Oregon bench, he was literally going, talking to his offensive lineman, barking like it was like he was a coat. The first thing you noticed, he's way more ripped in person than you think. Like he is jacked up. Not will Levis where it looks like he's, you know, kind of infatuated with a mirror, but just kind of in shape. And then the second thing is, dude, that guy coaches on the sideline like he is barking at college guys. So it's just funny that in the NFL where quarterback's the number one position, a big chunk of the league with 61 games on tape, two major conferences, about half the league wasn't into him. I just don't get what didn't they see. It's way more athletic than I think people realize. Maybe just people didn't watch enough Oregon. You watch them play in college. Dude is an athlete.
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Colin Cowherd
It's okay to say that the NFL still struggles at times to identify who's going to work in the NFL, a quarterback and who won't. Next up, Colin. Let's go to the Cowboys. Not talking about them a lot because there's really nothing to say. But the wide receiver room is legit. They've got the one, two punch of Pickens and CD Lamb. And listen, Brian Schottenheimer's first run as a head coach could be impressive. According to Pro Football Focus. You can't find a better one two punch at.
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Jay
Wide receivers is always operated best when they have a vertical threat that opens up the space to allow CD Lamb to work underneath. And you know what I still think to this day? I think they're the winners right now of the George Pickens trade. I like this trade on their end. They can decide whether to extend him later, but he was one of five receivers in the NFL with a perfect 99.9 deep receiving grade. The threat that Pickens gives you one on one deep down the field is going to open things up for Lamb underneath. And I don't think you could pick two receivers that complement each other better than those two.
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Rachel Nichols
I'll throw this at you. I'm going to name. I think there's about eight teams every year that could win the super bowl. And I'll name them and you say yes if you believe it. Okay. Kansas City?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
Buffalo?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
Baltimore?
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Unnamed Analyst
Yes.
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Rachel Nichols
Detroit?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
Rams.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
You like San Francisco? I'll put them in there. San Francisco?
- [34:30]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
I think the Chargers are going to be in that space. My personal opinion. Chargers, you may be. Yes or no.
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Colin Cowherd
Your super bowl bubble is going to be huge.
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Rachel Nichols
Well right now. And I think Denver's better than people think. So what do they all have in common? They all have good coaches. Like, it's interesting to watch. Cowboy fan. There's an argument you have the worst staff in the league. I'm not saying. I'm not saying coach is bigger than quarterback. But this Brian shot and everything is going to unravel. By mid October, he struggled to keep jobs as a coordinator. I don't.
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Jason McIntyre
I interviewed him.
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Rachel Nichols
He has a reputation as a nice guy. He was a bounce around guy at coordinator. Tell me the last bounce around the league coordinator that became a great head coach. It doesn't exist. Yeah, like so it's like, does it matter how good Pickens is? Well, mid October, there's going to be rumors, I mean never forget this, that Mike McCarthy left the Cowboys.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that was before Pickens. I'll just say the variance with Pickens is going to be massive. I mean Colin, he's playing for a contract, right. He's opposite CD Lamb and if him and Dak click and he's like, man, I could be a big money guy. Maybe Pickens keeps his stays in line and isn't like a locker room disaster like in Pittsburgh. I mean doesn't that exist, that scenario?
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Rachel Nichols
The only scenario I see is 5 and 12. That's it or less. This team does not win six games.
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Colin Cowherd
All right.
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Rachel Nichols
I'm convinced of it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. We, we have a trade in the NBA, Colin. Holy cow, here we go. The Los Angeles Lakers have traded up from the 55th pick in the second round of tonight's draft to the 45th fifth pick. Now it's unclear if the Lakers are targeting someone specifically or, or they are lining up a trade. There is a lot of stuff floating around right now about your guy Austin Reeves. Cuz he's in line for a four year $89 million deal. But if he's traded to another team, he could make 182mil. Basically a lot more money if he goes elsewhere now that he's going to command a big, big contract. Do the Lakers trade him to get someone else to get in front of having to pay him? There's also reports. Tell me, would you do this? Okay. Would you do Rui Hachimura, Dalton connect and a 2031 first round pick for Derrick White?
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Rachel Nichols
Yes. Say it again to the audience.
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Colin Cowherd
Rui Hachimura, Dalton connect and a 2031 first. LeBron will be long gone. Luka will be like 30.
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Rachel Nichols
Absolutely. Change the Lakers, you would have a.
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Colin Cowherd
Nucleus of reeves, White, Luka, LeBron that's formidable but no size whatsoever.
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Rachel Nichols
Okay, that is a top three to four team in the West. You and this, they have no size. Which is fine because Derrick White isn't size, but Luke is a big guard. Derrick White's an elite defender. So you would have four guys, four that can create shots or hit threes. You may not win a championship. You'd still have to make a size move at some point. You have to with the trade deadline, get sized because Jackson, Hayes and Reddick don't work.
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Colin Cowherd
They went after Mark Williams from Charlotte. Well, he got traded to Phoenix.
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Rachel Nichols
I think that's the easiest move you've ever proposed on this show.
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Colin Cowherd
I didn't propose that. Hold on, hold it. That's a report. That's not mine. I, I, I'm on the fence on this deal order. So if that deal goes through, give me your top four players on the Lakers in order.
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Rachel Nichols
Well, I, I would say LeBron, Luca, Derrick White, Austin Reeves, Derek White above Austin. Derrick White's an elite defender. Austin Reaves is this chair.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, get the hell out of, Stop disparaging my guy. All right.
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Rachel Nichols
The problem is Austin Reeves. If he is your four, that's a conference final potential team. If he's your three, you're not getting.
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Colin Cowherd
Let me just remind you, Rudy Gobert had like 27 and 20 in the clincher. Okay. This trade does nothing to help them against a big.
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Rachel Nichols
Okay. Derek White's 31 and was on the Team USA last year. He's better than Austin Reaves. I got news for you. Austin Reeves against the T Wolves when they put athletes on him. Hello? Anybody seen him? Where'd he go?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, man.
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Rachel Nichols
That would be a man. I, I. First of all, who's proposing this trade?
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know. It says report here. Listen, I'm not giving up the Japanese Jordan, AKA Rui Hachimura. He's good, he's very valuable. And listen, first round picks down the road. I don't know where the Lakers are going to be in five years. I do think they're going to be good with new ownership, but we'll see.
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Rachel Nichols
If that, if that is the, if that is available, make the move. Derrick White's your three. Now in Boston, when they won a title, he was somewhere between a four and a five. But they're not Boston.
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Colin Cowherd
They're not.
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Rachel Nichols
But. And the east is easier than the West. But if Derrick White's your three and Austin's your four, that is a multiple potential. If everybody's healthy and Luke is supposed to be in decent shape, that is a multiple series winning Western team.
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Colin Cowherd
The Lakers become the favorites in the west over overrated okc.
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Rachel Nichols
No, no, no, no, no. OKC is better. Houston's probably better. But, but, but Dallas I think's pretty good. But that I've said this for years, it's not about your star. Who is your fourth best player when the warriors dominated the league. Think about how this team, you had KD 1, step 2, clay 3, Draymond 4. Draymond's the best defensive player in the history of the league. League. Okay. When that's your four and he's an offensive catalyst, that is an all time team. If you go to Jordan Pippen, I mean KU coach at one point was great. And then Rodman, you start going to. When your fourth guy is like a Hall of Fame level player. Derrick White is a Team USA guy. Tremendous shooter, smart guy, worker and an excellent defender. Boy, are the Celtics cleaning house or what? Why would they want Dalton Connect get off money.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Dalton connect is a gunner just like your boy. He loves to fill it up from downtown. Doesn't play a lot of D though.
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Rachel Nichols
And those new Celtics owners are going to be shedding some payroll. They're going to be down to Jalen Brown and a bunch of wicker furniture. What's, what's going on here? They're dumping the whole franchise J Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.
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Unnamed Analyst
And thanks for stopping by the Herd.
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Rachel Nichols
Lie news Get me all fired up for that. Jmac you JMAC says. Well, they're called Reports. Well well, who? Who's reporting? I'm interested.
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Colin Cowherd
Joey Bag of Donuts in Boston according.
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Rachel Nichols
To for that was too specific for you to just make up. There's something there. If that's if that I would make that move in one I can't even believe it's available. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app.
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Unnamed Producer
Malcolm Gladwell here. I recently recorded the first episode of Smart Talks with IBM where I learned how AI agents are joining AI assistants as a major productivity tool. Let's start with AI agents. AI agents can reason, plan and collaborate with other AI tools to autonomously perform tasks for a user. Brian Bitzel, an expert from IBM, gave me an example of how a college freshman might use an AI agent as a new student.
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Brian Bitzel
You may not know how do I deal with my health and wellness issue? How many credits am I going to get for this given class? You could talk to someone and find out some of that, but maybe it's a little bit sensitive and you don't.
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Unnamed Producer
Want to do that, bissell told me. You could build an AI agent, a resource for new students that helps them navigate a new campus, register for classes, access the services they need, and even schedule appointments on their behalf, which in turn buys them more time to focus on their actual schoolwork.
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Brian Bitzel
We can see patterns of how agents and assistants can help employees and customers and end users be more productive. Automate workflows so they're not doing certain types of repetitive work over and over again and streamlining their lives and making data more accessible to them 24 hours a day.
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Unnamed Producer
To learn more about IBM's AI agents and how they can help your business, visit IBM.com agents.
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Colin Cowherd
FDIC Alex Palo looks to continue his legendary season and hold off a war New Garden, Kirkwood and the rest of the pack as the Indy Car Series roars into Mid Ohio July 6th on Fox.
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Rachel Nichols
So I had said the other day that I think Caitlin Clark maybe stylistically plays like Steph Curry, but I think she's really Michael Jordan. Is that, you know, Magic and Bird, people say saved the league, but Michael made it global. Michael really made a lot of guys rich. His ability to sell merchandise. That's why that movie air is so good. Damon Ben Affleck, it's such a good movie. And that's her. She has moved merchandise up 500%, ratings 50%. Jordan's the only pro athlete in my lifetime that literally had half the league viewership in his pocket and then she arrived. Michael, his second year, broke a bone in his foot and, you know, didn't play much. And because the league was getting very, very physical. And in college basketball players, you know, you play go from 30 games to play in 82, plus the playoffs in preseason. So now Caitlin Clark is banged up. She will not play again tonight. So the physicality, she's getting roughed up. The league has an off season. How do we defend her? Well, it's pretty obvious how people want to defend her. They're trapping, double teaming, getting very physical. And now she's banged up. So her first six games, she was Caitlin Clark. In her last three games, she's averaging 12 a game and shooting 27%. She is not healthy. So this is where she's a lot like Michael Jordan is. The physicality of the league and basketball has always been this way. If you can't figure out how to stop somebody, Steph Curry faced some of this. In basketball, the answer is always get physical with them. Make them uncomfortable. Rick Patina was on yesterday and talked about Caitlin Clark.
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Rick Pitino
She's a great passer. She reminds me of Steph Curry. When Steph Curry came into the league, she's doing what Steph did early on. She has unbelievable range. She has great vision. She's a terrific passer. You know, she's physically a little weak, but that's, that's, she'll, she'll get stronger as time goes on, but she really understands how to play. And she reminds me of the female version of Steph Curry. Incredible range.
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Rachel Nichols
So you may or may not know this. So when Michael Jordan was getting beat up by the Detroit Pistons. J. Mac, you're probably too young to remember this. Jordan finally decided, and from this point forward, he lifted weights day of game, every day, Jordan got bigger and stronger. We've seen this with NFL quarterbacks like Jaden Daniels. Apparently he's put on 15 pounds. Lamar Jackson got, you know, thicker. But Jordan, after getting tackled for two years, was finding himself getting worn down by the NBA because they couldn't stop him. So let's tackle him. The Celtics and the Pistons. So Michael put on size. So my take for Caitlin Clark is she has to get more cut right now. She's a great basketball player. She's not terribly strong. And you can see it. Players push her around. She fell to the floor off kind of a semi body check. And it's like. So I, I, I think it, it's very much an MJ comp. And in terms of influence and merchandise and strength, it's a Steph comp in that her style. You know her stylistically, she plays much more Steph than she does Michael Jordan. But I think this is. I don't think it's problematic. I think it's the reality. This is why they went and got Sophie Cunningham.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
She needed a Charles Oakley. That's why they went and got Charles Oakley in Chicago. To protect Michael Jordan.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. Couple.
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Rachel Nichols
That's what you're saying.
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Colin Cowherd
So, first of all, that Jordan story. So much has been made of it. Oh, I had to. Had to get in the weight room and pump iron after the Pistons beat me up. Let me just remind people, the Pistons went to the finals three years in a row. The final year, they knocked out the Bulls. And that's when Jordan said, I got a lift. So of course the Pistons are gas. The next year, the Bulls sweep them. So there's this narrative. Michael just got stronger and then kicked Detroit's butt. And not really, but to Curry Colin, interestingly, early in his career, remember, he had ankle injuries.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And he was not going to get the big bank money.
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Rachel Nichols
That's right.
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Colin Cowherd
And he ended up getting on, like, a cheaper contract. I know it sounds cheap, but, like, it was like 80 million instead of the real big money.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah. Relative to what he could have had.
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Colin Cowherd
Right. So he was on, like, one of the best deals ever. And that's when they got hot. But some of these guys, you're right, they're a little wiry. I don't. What are you expecting Caitlin Clark to, like, get on creatine and gain, like, £10? Like.
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Rachel Nichols
No, but I do think when I watch Caitlin Clark, I mean, Jordan went from 195 to 215.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I don't can. I don't know that that works with women's bodies in basketball. Like, well, the way she plays. I don't know.
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Rachel Nichols
Look at her. You don't see a ton of definition.
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Colin Cowherd
No.
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Rachel Nichols
It works with anybody. Like Asia Wilson. If you watch her play, she's physical.
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Colin Cowherd
She's like, different frame. But let me. And let me ask you this. Maybe the WNB nation WNBA needs to step up and referee her in a way that says that's the face of our league. We can't have people dropping her all the time. And we need to protect our stars the way the NFL. You know this. The NFL protects quarterbacks. Remember, there was a while, you breathe on Brady, you breathe on Mahomes, you get.
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Rachel Nichols
You're getting back. You go back to hockey's history. Hockey had an era when scoring went down and you were able to clutch and grab. And hockey stepped in and said, this is bad for the game. It's slowing it down. Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem doing that. Like the NBA went the other way. NBA says our game, our players are so skilled. We have to make the game more physical. Otherwise, it's 138. 130. And people hate now the All Star Game. So the NBA skill is so great. They want a more physical game. But I bought NBA guys can jump over you.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
WNBA players. It's not a vertical league.
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Colin Cowherd
True.
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Rachel Nichols
So I do think you may have to consider, like hockey did or like the NFL has done. Okay. We're. We're like quarterbacks are setting targets. A lot of them. Yeah. I do think it's something you have to consider, which is we're going to officiate the WNBA at the trade deadline or whenever they hit it differently than we've done before. I don't think that's radical.
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Colin Cowherd
Colin. Remember she got bumped, Poked in the eye and then bumped. Since that game, she's 1 for 23 on three pointers. I don't think it's a coincidence that she's been kind of rattled and shook. I don't know that they injured her in that game, but something seems off. Clearly she doesn't look like herself.
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Rachel Nichols
Think about what's happened in Americans play sports. Baseball has made four to five changes. They've all worked. All of them.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
The NFL, they. They changed their kickoff. They've changed their PAT. Now. I love the PAT change, kickoff. I'm not sure. The NBA's never been reluctant to make changes. I think they should shorten the playoffs from 10 weeks to like eight, seven gamers to five games, maybe until the Finals. But I do think the WNBA has had to sort of modify or shift the sport based on having their first superstar, a global superstar. So I think the knock on the WNBA is you weren't prepared for her. And Christine Brennan has a book out.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Rachel Nichols
And it's very interesting. I talked about this the other day. Caitlin Clark had a game against Michigan when she was a sophomore. More and drop 46. And Christine Brennan says people who are at the game said, this is one of the great games in the history of women's basketball. This player is different. That was like Luka at 15 was having games where people were like this Luca guy. We've never seen anybody offensively like this in Europe. So I do think the wnba, maybe now, to get the critics off their backs, should modify officiating to and you say, well, it's pandering. No, it's not. It's keeping your assets healthy.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Protect the money maker, baby.
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Rachel Nichols
Yep. All right. Two hours flying by. It is a Thursday. Hour three coming up. It's the herd.
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
This is an Iheart podcast.