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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
Now, let's get this party started.
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is our number two. Live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd. Oh, it's Chicago. My bad. Yeah, who knows where I'm at? I'm in my chair. J Max in la so Denver Nuggets are better right now than they were yesterday. Got a couple of shooters. The Houston Rockets I think are better today than they were yesterday. I don't know if the Dallas Mavericks are better with D low, but they're deeper. Their scoring's deeper. They're waiting for Kyrie to get back, hopefully after the trade deadline. I looked at what happened yesterday and I think everybody in the west looks a little better. Clint Capella goes back to Houston. So Houston's better. Denver's better. Oklahoma City's a champ. They don't have to necessarily get that much better. We are in a run of seven years, seven different championships today. If I had to guess, I'd say Denver's the best team in the league with Cam Johnson and Bruce Brown narrowly over Houston. I think Dallas is excellent. So is okc. The other story today that's big is the Lakers are making it very clear they're not including LeBron in their discussions going forward. They are not as good today as they were yesterday. They don't have a center. The best centers are now gone. I deandre Ayton still out there. J. Mac, is he out there for the taking right now? DeAndre?
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J. Mac
Yeah, he's available. Calling himself a max player still obviously not demanding a max contract. But if that's what the Lakers are doing this offseason. Jake LaRavia and Deandre Ayton maybe that they are trying to trade LeBron, I don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, so I thought this was funny. Like it's now gotten to a point we have to laugh at it. Caitlin Clark finished ninth in player voting. In fact, she finished behind one of her own teammates in player voting for the All Star Game. The pettiness has no bounds. But it's interesting. For years the WNBA players were Pointing fingers. They were saying people are sexist. The media is sexist. We're not being promoted, we're underappreciated. And then they get the golden goose and they don't like what it looks like. Iowa girl, Indiana girl, well, who knows? And I've said this for years, when the wave hits, ride it. You don't know what it looks like. Don't fight it. When Puka Nakua went in the fifth round of the Rams and they suddenly in camp wet, oh, we just found a new number one receiver. He's better than Cooper cup, they didn't fight it. Did you think when you watched Tom Brady at the combine, that looked like the goat? They had just signed drew Bledsoe to $103 million contract. That was a lot of money back then. And then a year in there, like, I want to go with Brady. They didn't fight it. And Drew Bledsoe was still very, very good. So, you know, there's obviously a racial component here. The WNBA players, they just don't like what the wave looks like. They wanted to fly private. They wanted to be more popular. They wanted a better deal in the cba, which they'll get. They wanted sold out arenas, they got it. They just don't. They don't necessarily think it should be this. But again, you can't fight it. You just never know what success looks like. I mean, if every company in the country would love to go viral every day for free marketing, if they knew how to do it, they'd all be viral every day. Like, you just don't know. Is it authentic? It touches people. There's a tentacle of emotion involved and suddenly some small town kid goes viral or a singing frog. Who knows? I wouldn't have guessed that Caitlin Clark would be this transformative. I wouldn't have guessed Tom Brady would be the Goat. Don't fight it. The wave, the meteor doesn't necessarily look like you think it's going to look right. There was a time that somebody thought those was it, wasn't it? Was it the Google or the Apple glasses? I was told that was the future. I remember being in TV and I was told local news would be 3D. I can remember working at the other place. We had an event. That was Ohio State football game. We all took 3D glasses. I was at this is the future of television. At that time, nobody knew what streaming was. There was no Netflix. So you just don't know what the wave looks like when it arrives. Don't find it, just write it with that Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback, is joining us live. Lots to talk about. So I said this. I was talking to a league executive about two, three weeks ago and he said sometimes he felt like the Steelers were making moves to make moves. So for instance, they move off a very tall, explosive, high maintenance receiver after acquiring a tall, explosive, high maintenance receiver. They move off an expensive safety who's past his prime slightly and then they go acquire Jalen Ramsey who's expensive from the secondary past his prime slightly. So to me they're just making moves to make moves. I'd argue today they're less talented arguably than maybe a year ago. What are they doing with the latest Jalen Ramsey move?
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Jim
So here's what I think it is, Colin. Just from a global standpoint, they got to the end of the year last year and obviously they got this incredible record with Mike Tomlin of being plus 500 over the last 17 years running and it just hasn't equaled playoff success over the last seven or eight years. So you're knocking on this glass ceiling and how do you break through? And I think that's really why they decided to hit reset at quarterback. They would have had Justin Fields back over Russell Wilson, but they decided we're going to take a bigger swing at that. So they looked at Matthew Stafford, they wind up with Aaron Rodgers and every one of these positions, it's how can we get a little bit better? So this core that we have right now, and I've said this to you over the last few weeks, has the best chance of going and pursuing a championship. How does Cam Heyward have the best chance of pursuing a championship? How does TJ Watt have the best chance of getting over the hump and not being a nine win team anymore, Having a home playoff game, being able to advance when they get there, like that's what this is all about. And so I think to some degree I understand what you're saying about like this is maybe activity for activity's sake and maybe it looks like that, but they feel like Ramsey's a better player than McFitzpatrick. They feel like, like Metcalf's a better player than Pickens and maybe those guys have less shelf life. Like maybe those guys only have two or three years left rather than five or six years left. But where they are right now, it was either do this tread water at 9, 10 wins or reset. And I think they look at it as we weren't going to break through that 9, 10, 11 win ceiling with the group that we had so let's roll the dice. Let's take a big swing. Let's swing for the fences rather than swing for singles and doubles. And if it works out great. And if it doesn't, we were going to have to rebuild anyway.
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Colin Cowherd
So I think if you can make March Madness as a college basketball coach, that's why all These coaches want 80 teams in March Madness. You retain your job in the NFL if you can make the playoffs. It's hard to fire a coach. I think Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel is really bad news for Mike McDaniel in Miami because I think New England with Drake may. They don't have to pay him for years. I think Vrabel's elite, they spent 300 million. Unlike Miami's rebuild with McDaniel, where that was flashy, but I didn't feel there was a lot of stake. I feel there's a lot of stake. Lines are better with Vrabel. He's a culture setter ascending quarterback. We were talking about this a couple of days ago on the show is that Mike McDaniel came from Kyle Shanahan. There was a sense is okay, this is 49ers East. I got three years. They're not physical. It's a lot of sizzle. I don't trust them out of Miami. I think Miami is. Is a bit of a mess. And McDaniels is in a bit of trouble for an organization that has moved off.
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Jim
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Fairly capable coaches before. What say you on Miami going forward?
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Jim
Well, he got his extension and I do think Magdalene is a great offensive mind. And there's no question that I think.
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Colin Cowherd
He gave them a little bit more.
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Jim
Than they had during the Brian Flores era. At the end, he gave them change. They needed just the climate. The building improved. So he did give them that. That's it. I'm with you. Like, they kind of got to the point where it's like, okay, now. And I talked about that ceiling with the Steelers. Right. Okay. Has this run its course? And so rather than being where the Steelers were with a year or two left, they felt like they were at the end with a group that they had. And so Tron Armstead retires, they trade Jalen Ramsey. I still think Tyreek Hill could be had if somebody made a big offer for him. Like, I think this is subtly the turning of the page from the we have to a tango Baloa on a rookie contract and we're going to build aggressively and we're going to find out what TUA is to now TUA'S on a big contract. We're going to need more from Tua and around him we're going to have to get a lot younger. And so I think this is the beginning of that process. They got marginally younger with some of these trades and they're going to have to rely on young guys like Patrick Paul, who they drafted in the second round to play left tackle last year out of the University of Houston, didn't play last year. Now he's going to be their starting left tackle. It's guys like that who are going to have to come along for them and two is going to have to be better. And to me, like that's what this hinges on. Mike McDaniel was brought in a couple of years ago to fix to a Tungavaloa. Right. Like let's see what we can get. Let's see where to a tug of aloa ceiling is and two has played well under Mike McDaniel in that environment where you had him on the rookie contract where you could build aggressively around him. Now I think it's sort of flipped where it was on Mike to revitalize Tua. Now TUA has to prove that Mike was right to stick with him. And so I think a lot of where the Mike McDaniel era goes and Chris Greer is part of this as well, is going to hinge on whether or not Tua can elevate the type of quarterback who can lift up people around him rather than being the point guard out there who's just got a really talented group of players and he can drive the bus.
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Colin Cowherd
So I got into this discussion with John Middelkoff and I were talking about the Packers. So Jordan love, congrats to him. Just got married. Good for him. I love that. I like my quarterbacks to be married. I know Albert, that sounds ridiculous. I like my mature quarterbacks to be grounded. But it's interesting. Green Bay is one of the mystery teams in the league because we know they're well run. We like their coach. No crazy owner, Mark Murphy, super bright. They draft and develop well. But they are the mystery team in the league because even Washington. I can look at Washington and say, well, who are their five best players? And I can point to guys. Green Bay's five best players. Okay. I love Josh Jacobs. Kenny Clark's really good. I would argue they're. They've become Gary. Yeah, he's so that's my point. Have they become the Colts where we know they're well run. We know they've got a good roster but do they have stars? Because when you start looking at Philly and Detroit and the Rams, where you could pinpoint four or five guys and go, okay, those are elite difference makers in January. So my take is, what are the packers beyond. Well, run in a really good division. What are they today?
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Jim
So I think what's interesting is like, what makes your point is what they did in the first round of the draft, right, when they drafted Matthew golden out of Texas. Because, like, do they have a bunch of twos and threes all over the roster? I think is the question you're asking, right? Yes. And you look at that receiver group and that receiver group showed so much promise early with guys like Christian Watson and Jaden Reed and Dontavian Wicks. And so you saw these guys and there's so much promise there. But does them taking Matthew golden in the first round basically tell you that they view those other guys as twos and threes and they needed to bring in another one Number A number one. Same thing at left tackle. They got Rasheed Walker out there, pretty good player for them. They drafted Jordan Morgan. He's going to compete for the left tackle spot this year after playing guard as a rookie. I think those questions are there on the roster. It's a really solid roster, and I think they can roll out of bed and win eight, eight or nine games and be in the playoff hunt. I think what the roster needs now is sort of like what I was just talking about with Miami is can Jordan Love come in and elevate the people around him? And I think that's something we're going to see. Again, like, I like Tucker Kraft, I like Watson when he gets healthy again, I like Jaden Reed, I like Don Tavian Wicks. But I think the question you're asking is how many of these guys are going to be around three or four years from now? How many are that good that they're going to be those sorts of cornerstones? And I think that's a fair question to ask. And the one thing that can solve that is your quarterback starting to elevate the people around him. So I do think, like, to some degree there's a little more pressure on Jordan Love going into this year to elevate the guys around him based on the dynamic that you were just talking about on the roster.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, finally, let's make. Because, you know, I know you're probably in the beaches of the Northeast and enjoying your fam here.
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Jim
I gave you guys a great view, by the way. They told me it was too windy up there. So you got, like, the window unit behind me now, so. But there was a great view upstairs.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally. Do you buy the Terry McLaurin Patriots rumors? Because I will say Washington, and I've heard GM say this, you don't want to spend too much money in a singular unit once you're paying Debo. Now you have Terry McLaurin, you've got other gaps on the offensive line, you've got gaps in the secondary. Do you buy those rumors? I love McLaurin. I think he's one of the real adults in the room at that position. Do you buy the Patriot McLaurin rumors?
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Jim
I think the Patriots would love to have Terry McLaurin on the roster. I mean, the one connection that I don't know enough people have made is that Mike Frable coached and played at Ohio State. So he knows everything that's needed to be known about Terry McLaurin. And Terry McLaurin is one of the most beloved players to go through that program in the last 25 years. And that's not overstating it.
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Colin Cowherd
Wow.
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Jim
And he was a captain in Washington through a rebuild, through the ownership situation, through the name, like all that different stuff. Like, he was kind of a bellwether through a lot of storms in Washington, and to be able to pair him with a young quarterback, like, he just went through that with Jaden Daniels and was great for Jaden Daniels, so he'd be great for Drake May. I just don't see where the commanders are going to walk away from him. I think Terry really values what he's got in Washington, and I've talked to him about this before, like, how. How significant last year was for him personally and being there when they got over the hump and being there when they became a real team. After everything that he went through since being drafted in 2019, remember, he was drafted by Jake Rudin to the. To. To. To. To the Washington Redskins at the time. He's there for the whole Ron Rivera area. He's there for the ownership change. He's there for the name change, all of it. So he really values having been through all of that and having gotten them over the hump. And Dan Quinn really values Terry McLaurin. So that negotiation is a really tough spot right now because of the way the market has exploded at receiver. And I don't know, the communication has been great to this point, but I do think at the end they're too valuable to each other. And so I do think cooler heads will prevail. But you're right. Like I think New England will be one of the first teams on the phone if he did actually become available.
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Colin Cowherd
Albert Brer, Monday morning quarterback. Enjoy your summer. Mine starts after the show today for me and it's great seeing you.
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Jim
Happy summer, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, good stuff. J. Mac, you're filling in tomorrow, right? Are you doing, are you doing the task tomorrow?
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J. Mac
I am, yes. Very excited with all your Lakers hate. I'm cooking up so much stuff.
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Colin Cowherd
But don't you, don't, don't you think it is interesting though? I, I really like it's restaurant under new management. I do like when you get new owners. The Lakers have new owners. They're really successful and they have, I mean don't you think those guys before they bought the Lakers, right? Like let's say you're Mark Walters and you're sitting there with your investment group and the Dodgers are humming in baseball, I mean like everything. You're leading baseball in attendance by 7,000 a game. So not that the Dodgers are on cruise control, but you resigned, you extended Dave Rober Ohtani. So you're sitting there and you own like 15, 20% of the Lakers. Why would they buy the Lakers? Why would they spend 10 billion to buy the Lakers? Their takeaway is this is an under undervalued asset. Well, I don't know if it's undervalued, an underperforming asset. You wouldn't buy it at the top of the market. Like you wouldn't buy it if you thought it was brilliantly run. Generally smart people buy companies not at the top of the market when they think, man, this is an incredible brand. The TV money is coming in for the NBA and they're not particularly well run. And then stories come out about the Lakers are the only team not at Sloan Analytics Conference. They're the scouting department smaller. So I think they bought it with the intention of we're going to tighten this thing up, we're going to button up the Lakers. So I think Pelinka's in trouble. They shouldn't be asking LeBron at 41 or Rich Paul what to do. That doesn't mean you alienate them. But, but I think these moves basically, let's be honest, J. Mac, they sort of punted on this year's free agency.
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J. Mac
It's early, I can see that it gives that appearance. It looks like they're kind of punting. But if they bring in Aiden and make another slick move, maybe they get off Hachimura and one of the number.
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Colin Cowherd
Ones for you don't like it. You don't love Ayton as a move and neither do I. I don't love Aiden.
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J. Mac
But at this given the alternatives, Colin it's like, you know, but if you dance and you want to dance with a girl last song what girls are available? Maybe not the ones you love, but you take something so you're at least dancing.
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Colin Cowherd
I would argue this if you go back and look what they did with the Dodgers before they got into huge spending. They fixed scouting R and D and.
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J. Mac
Upstairs it just it stinks to have to do that in LeBron's maybe final year of basketball. So that leads to do they consider a LeBron trade? Colin Does LeBron say, hey, this team could work for me? I think if anywhere he's going east, I just don't have a landing spot yet. Need some more time on that.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
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J. Mac
Well, well, we've got some more LeBron updates. Colin, listen, this is starting. I don't want to say we're at DEFCON 1 or anything like that, but maybe DEFCON 3. The breadcrumbs continue to add up. According to Rich Paul, four teams have been poking around about trading for LeBron James. Now, just to put full clarity here, Ryan Windhorst, who's all over the LeBron stuff, says a trade is highly unlikely. Others are saying, hey, listen, keep an eye on the Mavericks, although I find that hard to believe that the Lakers would steal Luka and then trade LeBron. Tap back to the Mads. I know there's the Kyrie ad angle. I don't buy it. But Colin, I think we're getting to that discussion.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes, you don't trade LeBron, but if.
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J. Mac
LeBron says, hey, trade me here, do you have to listen? It's very strange.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, could I not at least make this argument? If you're a Laker fan, the time to start over is when you still have assets but you're not a championship team. If you can look in the mirror and go, 41 year old LeBron Austin Reaves did get worked in the playoffs. Luka's your guy, but he's an old 26. And what do the Lakers need? They need an infusion of youth because that's what San Antonio has and what Houston has and what Oklahoma City has. Like to me, there's a real argument. If you're honest about it, this is as good as LeBron's gonna get. LeBron could go into the season at 41, rip up an ACL and it's over.
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J. Mac
Listen, listen, okay, I've had enough of glass half full Colin, on the day before you leave town, okay, stop with the negativity for LeBron and the Lakers.
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Colin Cowherd
I would move him. I would consider it.
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J. Mac
Okay, so now that's the discussion because he's going to make like 52 million.
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Colin Cowherd
Next year and somebody can. I mean, I. Again, I, I'm not saying this is not an anti LeBron, but there is a time and a place. I mean, New England moved off Brady. He went and won a Super bowl the following year.
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J. Mac
Some of that was Brady wanting to get the hell out.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Aaron Rodgers, packers moved off him two years earlier. He was an mvp, like all legends. Well, very rarely does the legend control the end.
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J. Mac
Listen, if LeBron goes on a darkness retreat, I'm okay offloading him, all right? But he's not doing that, so. So I'll Just put this out there, Colin. He's, he's in the final year of his contract. LeBron plays his final year, retires. You have a huge opening on your roster. I don't want to take on bad contracts. Moving off LeBron, I'm not doing that. I don't want three four year deals.
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Jim
Right.
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J. Mac
I, I want to keep books clean.
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Colin Cowherd
The Mark Walters group has no loyalty to LeBron.
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J. Mac
That's true.
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Colin Cowherd
Genie Bus did. This ownership group, it is all, all about assets. It's credits and debts, assets and liabilities. That's all it is to the new ownership group. These guys were. The Dodgers moved off Zach Granke, Manny Machado, Corey Seager, Corey Bellinger. And you could say, well, LeBron, LeBron, all they care about. They look, I guarantee they look at Luka as the gem. That's their Ohtani, that's their Mookie Betts. Luka, it's not 41 year old LeBron. That to me, I'm. They're looking at that thinking this may be the moment, this may be the. And we all know, well, Jeannie Buss is gonna be the governor of the operation. So was Mark Cuban with Dallas. When somebody pays 10 billion, they're gonna do what they want to do.
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J. Mac
Certainly. All right, let's move on to a team. You know, we don't really talk about that much in the OKC Thunder for their 14 fans. Colin, let's talk about it for a second here. Kevin Durant, who started his career in Seattle, then went to okc, knows a little bit about the Thunder and He went on LeBron's mind the game podcast and broke down the Thunder's dynasty potential.
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Colin Cowherd
Shay's gonna be, he's gonna be that guy for the rest of his career. What is Jayla Williams and Chad gonna be? You know what I'm saying? Of course they playing great right now, but those three guys gotta keep you. I mean, Shay's already at that level, but those two guys gotta keep getting better. I mean, that's just the facts of it. More than anything, those two guys gotta keep stepping up and become perennial all stars. No doubt. All Stars every year without the benefit of having a good team. Right? The 70 win team gets the All Stars. You just gotta be an All Star flat out. Remember this too, J. Mac Young teams that don't have a title, the regular season means a ton. Don't be shocked if OKC wins 60 or 58 games next year. They're not not pedal to the metal. That's not the way it works. The Minute teams win championships, young Tim Duncan, the coaching staff's like, I'm not wearing my guys out. So next year they may not have a number one seed. I that's, I mean, they're not going to look like they did this year. You're going to get a lot of bench play. You're going to get fewer minutes for your stars. They'll win like 61 games, 62 games in the regular season, but they won't. They're not good enough offensively to be a dynasty. They're not. I mean, if Halliburton doesn't get hurt, I'm not sure they beat, I'm not sure they beat Indiana.
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J. Mac
I'm fairly certain the last team to get to win the title and then get out of second round was like the Kevin Durant Curry Warriors. It's just, it's been tough to win the title. You know, everybody's coming for you. You take your foot off the gas and the next year you slip up a little bit. So we'll see. I'm not buying this dynasty nonsense just to put it out there. Final story, let's go to the NFL. Colin. The Miami Dolphins obviously made a big move yesterday trading Jalen Ramsey and John Smith to the Steelers for Minka Fitzpatrick. Well, former Miami running back Raheem Mostert ripped the Dolphins tweeting out hot take. Be a Pro Bowler on the Dolphins. Get treated like bleep happy for my guys though. Go ball out.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, sorry. Sean McVay bailed on Jalen Ramsey. Why? Jalen Ramsey's doing whatever Jalen Ramsey wants to do. I mean, by ask yourself right now the Rams have kind of a no name group in the secondary and they're just fine like that. When Sean McVeigh moves off a guy, why Cooper Cup? He was regressing. Jalen Ramsey doing his own thing. So I mean Aaron Donald was different. They would have kept him. But Jalen Ramsey, anytime he's been in an organization without great structure, Jacksonville and Miami, he's not as good as you think he should be. Let's be honest about it. He's not like in LA was great and then that last year you're like, he got burned a couple of times in the playoffs badly because he's doing his. He's biting on stuff, looking for the pick. He's like the NBA guy that wants steals instead of playing good team defense.
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J. Mac
I called him a pile inspector and all these Dolphin fans got upset at me. I'm like, he's just not what he was. He was A superstar. He's not anymore, no.
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Colin Cowherd
J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. The other story today, J. Mac, that we touched on briefly, basically, the Bucks bought out the Dame Lillard contract. So Giannis reportedly did not like that. They did get Miles Turner, who I think's an upgrade over Brook Lopez. Lopez aged going to the Clippers. Miles. I like Miles. Miles and Lopez are the same. Big guys, can shoot at three. I think Miles is a better rim protector at this point. I, you know, I don't know what the analytics say, but I like Miles Turner more at this point than Brook Lopez. So they, they upgrade a little bit in the post, but apparently Giannis isn't terribly happy. But, you know, it's a classic example. Giannis can keep pointing fingers and blaming people. It's like WNBA players. They keep blaming, blaming, blaming. You don't pay attention to us. Caitlin Clark arrives. We all pay attention and they don't, they don't like the way their growth looks. Giannis can keep blaming people and do this passive aggressive stuff on Instagram, bro, you were not a championship team three years ago. And so you, you don't want to leave. Let's be honest. You don't. You want to be seen as a nice guy and loyal. I get that. Nobody wants to be hated, but to me, Milwaukee is screaming reboot. That is a total start over. And we can't keep blaming ownership of the Mavs because they're just limitations on what you can do. Here is Chris Haynes today on NBA TV on Giannis on Damian Lillard being waived. Sources that relate to me that Giannis Antokounmpo is not pleased with the Bucks decision to buy out Damian Lillard for the remainder of his contract as and he just didn't like how it was handled. There are some, you know, suspect things happening or the way that they are happening. And so I was told he is, he is not pleased with what, what transpired. Well, you're the one that kind of demanded a big swing and we all knew when Dame arrived you'd be a better offensive team from three and a worse defensive team. So the Bucks are trying to appeal to you, but I've said one, their title was four years ago. This to me is screaming move Giannis. Six first rounders, unprotected, all star level ish player, rotational player, start over. You got a title with Kareem, you got a title with Giannis. And there's a lot of great franchises that never won a Super Bowl, a Stanley cup or a title. You get one. Don't. I mean Denver's got one with the yokich, the best player in the world. They may not. They may not get another. OKC got one like Toronto got one. There's no guarantee. Milwaukee's not a big free agent market. Players in a winter league are not dying to get to the tundra. So it's like you gotta you got a title, you got hardware, you got a banner. It's your second start over. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio app this July.
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J. Mac
Saturday It's Baseball Night in America on Fox and two of baseball's best go head to head as Jose Altuve and the Astros battle Shohei Otani and the Dodgers, where the Tigers take on the Guardians. Check local listings for the game in your area. Saturday 7 Eastern on Fox.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I was thinking about this J. Mac. I actually think Justin Fields for your New York Jets. If you go look at his numbers last year in Pittsburgh, they were pretty encouraging. Now, were there promises made to Russell Wilson? I don't know. But Justin Fields was not. I mean, he's 4 and 2. If you extrapolate his numbers out, they were pretty solid numbers they're pretty solid. So he's going to get a full run this year and I think he should but if Michael Panicks can play for Atlanta I think he can. If Cam Ward is as good as we both think in Tennessee and if Caleb and Ben Johnson works so that's three more teams that have quarterbacks we are reaching a next year supposed to be a good quarterback draft so the Giants went and got Jackson dart I'm not a buyer but if he's going to work day bowl certainly helps. We've only got now Indy Saints, Cleveland Giants do not have their quarterback and the Giants may think I don't know what they think but they may think they do have it with Jackson dart So the Giants you kind of wait and watch it develop but it does feel like we're reaching a saturation point. If Penn X Cam Warden Caleb hit and I'm being optimistic I liked all three out of college. I think they're all going to I think Ben Johnson's going to ensure Caleb works. I think the Callahan, Brian Callahan and Cam Ward I think it's going to work and I, and I always like Pennix but it's, you know you get to a point now that coaching is better than it's ever been. Offensive coaching is much better than it's ever been. Quarterbacks are playing more taking More snaps by 8th, 9th grade than they ever have. There's. It always feels like every year there's seven to eight teams that need a quarterback but what's happening J. Mac is because of the offensive coaching is so good that guys like Geno Darnold and Baker and this never used to be the case they're now hitting on a third or a fourth team and have I mean like Baker Mayfield now is absolutely a top 15 quarterback.
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J. Mac
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Sam Darnold, I don't know where he ranks but in terms of talent arm talent he's a top 15 ARM talent and so and Gino we can complain. He just got a huge new deal. There's not a lot of teams now in this league that literally have really absolutely guaranteed don't know if they have. They don't have the guy in the building. Hold on.
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J. Mac
I think I could find five ready?
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Colin Cowherd
All right. All right.
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J. Mac
Okay. So let's start with the Cleveland Browns. They absolutely have no idea and if Stefanski gets run line it's going to be a new regime there the Indianapolis Colts, remember we saw Shane Steichen on that list we if he gets fired no question forget Anthony Richardson this one, you know New Orleans Saints, they just drafted a guy they, they don't have. They got nothing. I like Bryce Young as a person. So do I. I don't think he's a guy.
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Colin Cowherd
I think he can play. I don't have numbers in front of me, but I thought last year, I thought last year watching him, I'm like, oh, that he can start in the NFL. I don't think you have to go draft a quarterback in the first round next year. I think bright, I think Bryce Young can play. I don't think he's great, but I do think he's a franchise quarterback.
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J. Mac
Yeah, so. So two more and this one, you know, we'll see what happens in Arizona. I'm bullish on them this year. But Colin, the Kyler Murray stuff at some point, like, they're probably going to run Gannon if he doesn't get a lot of wins and then it's like, what are we doing with Kyler Murray? Is he a franchise guy?
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Colin Cowherd
I would, I would say this. Indy, Saints, Cleveland. No. And in one year, Pittsburgh.
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J. Mac
Pittsburgh. I think Jets. Come on. Do you really think Justin Fields is going to be awesome and get like a three year deal?
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Colin Cowherd
Justin Fields checks a lot of boxes, big mobile, light. I don't know if he's a good leader or not, so I don't have an opinion. But he's a big kid, got a whip, moves well. Everybody that plays with him likes him. He's not disruptive and he's going to get this year. My take on Justin Fields is he's one of those guys. It just depends on if the staff likes him. I don't think he jumps off. But Darnold now, Baker now and Gino, they got big deals like their franchise quarterbacks. You don't have to think they're great, but they're, they're so we just. Pittsburgh's one of the only teams with Indy, the Saints, Cleveland, Pittsburgh. In one year from now, they're absolutely going drafting a quarterback.
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J. Mac
I think if the Giants fire Dabo, they're drafting a quarterback. Like you said, Jackson dart, new guy's not going to inherit him. Let me just throw this other one out. I don't think it's an issue, but if JJ McCarthy is wobbly and all these reports about, oh, we don't know, let's go back, get someone else. Do the Vikings take a bite of a quarterback next year in the draft somewhere?
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Colin Cowherd
It's a very good point. Remember, they didn't give up a haul for J.J. mcCarthy. I think they gave up a fourth and a fifth. So they did not sell the farm for J.J. mcCarthy. Remember there were all these rumors, teams were moving up. No, they were more interested we found after the draft in Pennix. So they didn't give away the farm. And by the way, my staff looked it up. Bryce Young's last eight games without a number one receiver, 12 touchdowns and three picks. Okay, not a very good offensive roster. Did not have a number one. And they drafted TMAC from Arizona. They have a number one receiver. So. So. And I also think, like, I was never a huge fan of Brock Purdy or tua, but the organizations like them, it doesn't matter what I think. The TUA is their franchise guy, Brock is the Niners. Doesn't matter what I think. I just think we're getting to a point in the NFL there's three or four teams that don't know and next year I think those are all going to be solved because it's it. Right now you're looking at four to five first round guys. The quality of coaching, the quality of seven on seven camps, the quality of quarterback coaching. Like, you know, the people that we bring on the show that do this for a living.
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J. Mac
So you, you mentioned to a Colin as a franchise guy with McDaniel. Yes. And we had an interesting conversation about McDaniel yesterday and somebody texted me, why would we give. Peyton Manning couldn't win a playoff game in his first five appearances. And yet here we are, Mike McDaniel, year three with Tua in and out of the lineup and we're ready to say, oh my, Mike McDaniel not a good coach. Like, is there a different bit of a double standard for quarterbacks and coaches? A little, yes.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I mean, you're paying. Yeah, I mean, I think the. Yeah, absolutely. There's a different standard. Yeah, I mean, I think you're all in on tua. You've paid for it. He's a star player. Owners look at that differently than a coach that can't win a playoff game. That's the. Peyton Manning was the number one high school. Payton was the number one college player. Peyton Manning was a number one pick. Nobody ever. And by the way, Archie Manning was a. On a bad team. But Archie Manning was very talented. Peyton Manning was viewed as a quarterback prodigy. He was very much in the John Elway class. You're like, oh, this is a superstar. And so, yeah, I mean, Mike McDaniels, he was a, he was a assistant coach in a system in Kyle Shanahan where Kyle called everything Peyton Manning Was a. One of the best high school quarterbacks ever, one of the highest prospects, a number one pick, and very early in his career was considered almost, you know, a little bit of a teeth clincher. But I mean, like, cerebrally, next level. Yeah. I mean, there's no. Peyton Manning was like Matt Stafford. When Peyton Manning wasn't winning in the postseason, it was like. It wasn't a Peyton Manning issue. It was what surrounding. When Matt Stafford wasn't winning in Detroit, Number one high schooler, number one college, number one pick, one of the best three arms in the league. It wasn't Matt Stafford. It was the junk around him.
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J. Mac
So can we say, hey, Mike, it's not Mike McDaniel's fault. It's the junk around him, the GM. What the hell are you doing? Like, I. I know that I'm giving McDaniel way too much of a pass, but Colin, his history of play calling in Miami has been tremendous. And working with Detour backup quarterbacks, all those personalities again, I'm way more bullish on him. I don't know about Tua, but I like McDaniel a lot with my.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't dislike McDaniel, but I've seen this before where, you know, Zach Taylor comes out of the Sean McVay tree, and Sean McVeigh loves him, and he's obviously capable. The Bengals got to a Super bowl, but are we giving Zach Taylor early in his career a benefit of a doubt because of McVeigh? Are we gifted? If Mike McDaniel would have come from Tennessee, but he comes from Shanahan, so he gets a little bit of the glow of Shanahan. It might take his three years in. They've spent money, they've had stars. I just don't. There's nothing there. I think they finish third or fourth in the division.
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J. Mac
Behind my jets.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think it's a possibility. Whoa.
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J. Mac
That'd be a fall from grace.
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Colin Cowherd
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