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LeVar Arrington
Hey, what's up guys? It's Levar Arrington here from up on Game. Wanted to talk to you about a serious issue. Hate. You know, something personal that I have experienced and witnessed and watched is how the hate in our country is getting so out of control. It's at an all time high and people are facing way too much hate. A lot of people don't think it's a problem, but I do. I can recall growing up being in high school. One of my high school teammates, good dude too, just happened to wear a shirt that was a derogatory shirt towards my racial group. It depicted Malcolm X moments after he was assassinated and it just made me feel really, really sad. It made me feel upset and so many other emotions. And it's really because we're supposed to be a team, but it's going to take all of us to stop that sort of hate. As I mentioned, we are a team in this country. So let's take a break from hate so our team can regroup and regain our momentum. We need to take a time out against hate. Visit standuptoallhate.org to help and join me in calling for a time out against hate by following at what's up with Hate? Or posting the Blue Square Emoji Apple Cart is the perfect card for your holiday shopping. You can apply on your iPhone in minutes and start using it right away. You'll earn up to 3% daily cash back on every purchase, including products at Apple like a new iPhone 16 or Apple Watch Ultra. Start holiday shopping for your friends and family today with Apple Card subject to credit approval. Apple Card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City branch terms and more@applecard.com this podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Now here's the kicker. The PayPal debit card earns you 5% cash back in a monthly category of your Choice. Up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. So groceries, health and beauty, gas, apparel, restaurants. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Instacart, Sephora. This month, it's all about that apparel. I got a crazy schedule. I shop online a lot. Snag a suit here or there, fresh gear. 5% cash back adds up fast. And signing up is easy. Just Download the new PayPal app to sign up and you're ready to start earning cash back on your everyday purchases. Pay Smart. Earn cash back. Enjoy peace of mind with a PayPal debit card. Don't just pay PayPal terms apply. See PayPal app cash back earned as points you can redeem for cash and other options. This card issued by the Bancorp and a person went to license by Mastercard International Inc. This is John Mittelkoff from three and out with John Mittelkoff.
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
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Colin Cowherd
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LeVar Arrington
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Colin Cowherd
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LeVar Arrington
Lot to me putting that music into my ears. You feel good enough to go out there and put you turn on that switch. No one can stop you. For more check out Bose.com thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go, our number two in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Boy, I thought Josh McDaniels was outstanding. Really, really outstanding. Think about this guy's got six rings. That's crazy. Six super bowl rings. And you know, the head coach thing is really, really hard. I always say this Belichick got let go in New England. Andy Reid got let go in Philadelphia. Head coaching you are hired to eventually even if you're an all time great to be let go. That is the of head coaching in the NFL. But to be a great coordinator for year after year after year really takes something. And Josh McDaniels for a long time was the best offensive coordinator with the best head coach and the best quarterback of all time. So there's a story out there. I find this interesting. The Russell Wilson contract so J. Mac Russell Wilson has earned in his 13 year career. This is amazing. $304 million. That is a lot. And so Russell right now is one of the best bargains in football. But not for Denver. They're still paying him. He's a bargain for Pittsburgh. Okay, he's not playing for free, so Denver's paying him, not Pittsburgh. Now Russell wants a new contract and I would give him one. But here's the thing. Russell is an aging, slightly declining player from three years ago. That's indisputable. Pittsburgh has no reason to hurry. There's not a huge market for him. And the other key is, let's see the next three to four weeks. The schedule for Pittsburgh is the ultimate truth serum. At Philly, at Baltimore, Kansas City and then high scoring Cincinnati, they go 2 and 2. 04. Maybe he's not the answer. So to me, you sign stars early, don't screw around with top talent, but if somebody's a great fit, then you can wait. Okay? And I think Russell Wilson is more great fit than he is currently great player. It's not a criticism. He is absolutely an upgrade at a position of need. And secondly, he's not spectacular nor is he in his prime. And so again, Josh Allen, Lamar Herbert, sign him early. Don't waste your time. Don't even go to the last year of the deal. Just get it done early. That's not Russell. And part of Russell's appeal, and this may sound harsh, but two of his wins are against Cleveland. And part of his appeal is he's better than we thought. We came in the Russell Wilson Steeler thing. Very low expectations and truck stop food is amazing when you're starving. And he is now solved. Let's be honest, this offense for five or six years was awful and it's no longer awful. It's not high electric dynamic. Wow. It's not Buffalo, you know, it doesn't look like Detroit or Philadelphia. It's not those teams or the Rams against the Bills. It's not that. But when you're starving, you know, it's amazing what tastes great. And I think Russell also has to come to terms with he's getting paid great now for a team he doesn't even have to play for. So to me, Pittsburgh is a great fit. Now superstars work anywhere. Russell doesn't work anywhere. He didn't work in Denver and he wasn't getting the Seahawks to the playoffs. So to me, if I'm Russell, he didn't take a player friendly deal in Seattle, nor did he take one in Denver. This is probably a time for Russell Wilson to go. You know what, coach, they Draft, well, they develop. I got a star semi star back, a star receiver. This to me is that, you know, I've made a lot of dough. Do you want to go to Aaron Rodgers and make more money and go to the jets or do you want to really be with a great, well capitalized business with a history of winning again? When you're a superstar, it's different. When you're, when you're good and you're a great fit, that's when I think money can't drive the decision. Mahomes let money drive a lot of it. And with that, Albert Breer joins us. Let's talk about that briefly. They're in no hurry. Pittsburgh's not going to sign them before the season. What is a number? Is it a Daniel Jones number? Is it a short contract? What sounds reasonable on Russell Wilson?
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Albert Breer
You know, I haven't asked around as much on Russell, but I did ask on Sam Darnold and I think these things are probably in the ballpark now. Sam Darnold's obviously a lot younger, so you might get guarantees that go out a little further. But I think Sam is. Sam has now played his way into the 30 to 40 million dollars per year.
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LeVar Arrington
Wow.
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Albert Breer
Which is, which is where Baker was. I think when you look at Sam, it's Baker with inflation. And so like, then how does that relate to Russell, who's 10 years older than Sam? Well, like I do think it sort of sets the price. You know, Derek Carr didn't have a huge market a couple years ago, but he let other players set the market for him. I think that's probably the way it would go with Russell Wilson if he hit the market where a guy like Sam Darnold, because of his age, would come off the market faster.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
And that would help inform the Steelers and other teams what Wilson's worth.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah, that. That's really interesting. So you've done your calls on Darnold. 30 to 40, which I would be very comfortable paying for Sam. I don't think you're going to get the Minnesota Sam because he's not taking Justin Jefferson or Kevin O'Conn. But I think if you get some.
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Albert Breer
Version of Jordan Anderson or T.J. hawkins.
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LeVar Arrington
It'S a really good fit. By the way, on Darnold. One more on Darnold. My argument is why not franchise tag him? Can you let an MVP candidate out of the building? What are they going to do on that?
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Albert Breer
So this is like, this is obviously a champagne problem. You know, it's a great problem to have. There's too many quarterbacks and they, they love what they saw from J.J. mcCarthy up through August.
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LeVar Arrington
Okay.
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Albert Breer
The problem is they didn't get to see him in September, in October, in November, in December, practicing. So they didn't get what you would normally get if you were red shirting a rookie quarterback. And like, do you get him back in April or do you get him back in June? There's some variables there. So they can love the kid, which they do. They can love what he did for them when he was on the field, which they do. But there's still some projection going on there that wouldn't be going on if he didn't get hurt. And I think the question for the Vikings becomes when you've got a team that can win right now, and you've got a bunch of players that are ready to contend and win right now, and a team that at this point is 11 and 2, can you roll the dice and be willing to ride out some of the bumps that you might not see coming with J.J. mcCarthy?
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
Or do you buy the one year insurance policy at more than $40 million because the franchise tag is going to be above $40 million in 2025. Do you buy that one year insurance policy with Sam Darnold, have both of them on the roster next year and figure it out after? I think they could do that. It's sort of, if you go back and look historically at it, I think it's sort of what the Chargers did with Drew Brees in 2005. If you go all the way back and you remember they drafted Philip Rivers in 04, Brees had a great year. Brees, like, played much better than they expected. They went 12, 4. They franchised him in 05, and then Philip Rivers became the quarterback in 06. Certainly there's some precedent for doing that. And the franchise tag does give the Vikings an option to sort of slow play this a little bit longer.
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LeVar Arrington
Okay. So WIP radio, you know, this is what they do. They get people worked up. Brandon Graham says Jalen Hurts, A.J. brown. They're not tight. Now, some of this is. We've heard it from Debo and Malik Neighbors and CD Lamb and yeah. Devonte Adams. Wide receivers are the most verbal players in the league. They are. They have been my entire life, whatever. But. So this feels like there's some. There's a real issue here. What are you hearing?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I think there's just. There's a personality thing with Jalen Hurts that's existed and I think has existed since he's Come into the league, which is. I don't think he's a bad guy, but is he going to put his arm around a guy and make sure that he gets the ball to a certain guy and play K people on the. I don't think that's who he is.
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LeVar Arrington
Right.
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Albert Breer
So, you know, I think that there's that part of it where you're always managing that to some degree with Jalen hurts. And again, like, I think, like, deep down he is a really good guy, but there is that element that you're dealing with with him. And I mean, look like he and A.J. brown had a great relationship before they were playing together, but as you know, Colin, it's different having a great relationship with somebody when you see them three or four times a year versus being in the building with them every day.
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LeVar Arrington
Right.
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Albert Breer
You know, so I think they're managing through some of that. The good news is I think they've got an emotionally intelligent head coach and Nick Sirianni, who I think is very good at navigating these sorts of things. I think you do have to manage it. And, you know, like, obviously there's the shifting in what the offense is now versus where it was a year ago based on the fact that the Saquon Barkley is there, and Saquon Barkley is having a historic season. You know, now it's on the coaches to sort of manage these things. And again, the good news is I think Sirianni is good at these things, and they've been down this road with ours before.
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LeVar Arrington
I gotta ask you, the coaching search for the Bears. So I said yesterday, some jobs are too big in any industry for a first timer. Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, there's too many obstacles and hurdles here. Brian Flores has coached. Now, he created some of the Miami dysfunction, but he's a culture creator. I mean, you remember that Miami season, The first eight games, they were awful. And then, like, week nine, their special teams and defense were top of the league. He's got a resume. Yep. He's acknowledged his mistakes. He's been reflective. He's done a great job. Everywhere he's been and even Miami, he had success. The TUA thing didn't work. I think he's learned from it. I think, however, he'd be my 1A. I think when you're a mess of an organization, you go culture changer first, scheme second. Dan Campbell, Jim Harbaugh. I think Vrabel's the fit here. To me. Am I wrong?
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Albert Breer
Oh, yeah, yeah. So, like, I like, first of all, like, I Think the default for everybody in a situation like this when you have a guy who is drafted first overall is like, go find a quarterbacks guy.
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LeVar Arrington
Right, Right.
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Albert Breer
Like, when you look at the Bears and this is to your point, Colin, do they scream like, we need to bring in somebody to work with one player?
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LeVar Arrington
You know what I mean?
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Albert Breer
Like, no. Like, they need somebody who can do more than that. And, like, they need somebody who's going to come in and change what they've been. It's been 15 years since they won a playoff game. They've run through a lot of different coaches there. They've vacillated back and forth between defensive coach and offensive coach and all those different things. And I think they need somebody. And I think they recognize this. They need somebody who's going to put their foot. He may be going to be able to put his foot in the ground and drive the organization in a certain direction. And to me, that's Mike Vrabel. Now, like, my question would be whether or not Vrabel would want to go there, because I think he's going to have options. And Vrabel dealt with a complicated ownership situation in Tennessee, with changing front office structure very. And they've got a new team president in Chicago. They've got, like, old school ownership. Does Mike Vrabel want to walk into that situation? If he's got options, I think the Bears would want him. Will he want the Bears is the question. And I think I'm. I'm with you on the leader of men thing. Like, I think that that's really. That's very real there. I think it's why they wanted to get a look at Thomas Brown, because he fits that bill. And I think, you know, again, like, the names. Brian Flores is a good name. He was actually a college teammate of Ryan Poles at Boston College. Not sure if you knew that.
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LeVar Arrington
Wow.
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Albert Breer
But there is a connection there, and he would be good for that sort of place. I think Aaron Glenn, if you want to pluck from the division, I think Aaron Glenn's got a lot of the same qualities that Dan Campbell had when the Lions hired him in 21. So there are some good names out there, but I'm with you. I don't think that this is necessarily a quarterback centric hire, because I think they need somebody who can do a lot more than just get one player up and running.
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LeVar Arrington
All right. I know this is a college question, but you have an excellent knowledge of college football, the Belichick, Carolina thing. And I said this when Deion went to Colorado, I truly believe Deion wanted to elevate the lives of young men. Belichick, I think he wants to elevate the life of one man, and that's his son to the head coaching job eventually. And that's fine. I'm a dad, I get it. It just doesn't. He comes in with a 400 page binder. He wants his kid to get the job. Carolinas, because of their rivalry with Duke, such an academic institution, they take academics very seriously, as they should, and they're very proud of it. This feels, I don't know, it just doesn't feel like it would work.
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Albert Breer
Well, let me take you through, like, what I think his thought process is here. Like, I think that the first piece of it is he was like, My sense is he was pretty stunned by the lack of interest last year in NFL from NFL teams. So that's number one, because I think his preference still is to stay in the NFL. Number two, he's had a 30,000 foot view now of the league and he's seen how many of these places don't have their, you know, what together, right? And so he's looking at the jobs that are open now. It's like, do I want to go work with Kevin Warren in Chicago? Would I ever work for Woody Johnston, New York? And then, you know, I think he's like taking that and extrapolating and saying, well, if I don't like the three jobs that are open right now, how many more are going to come open? And like, which of those is going to wind up being ideal for me and set up the way that I want to do it? Do I want to go to a place that's got a team president that's going to medal? Do I want to go to a place where I've got a general manager that I don't align with? Do I want to go to a place where I've got an owner who's listening to sports radio and coming in with ideas every day, like, you know, and, and like, I just don't know that the perfect situation exists. I think that's what he struggles. What he's struggling with right now is he's got the bird in the hand. Does he take that over to in the bush? You know, and then the, the flip side of it is the research that he and the people around him have done into the college game and the way they look at it is college football is moving closer to the NFL and they'd be more equal equipped to deal with challenges in college than A lot of college coaches, nil is salary cap, transfer portal is free agency. Deion Sanders does no home visits. So would Bill Belichick have to do home visits? Probably not. The rules are changing. So now you can put recruiters on the road so he can hire coaches just to coach. He could set it up a certain way where he could go to the third and fourth and fifth year guys and say, come here for a year and I will turn you into an NFL player. You know, this team is telling you you're a fourth round pick, I'll turn you into a second round pick. I think there's a, there's a path there where I think he might be able to turn around a college team fast, a college program faster than he could an NFL program and just go and coach and do it his way. And so I think that that is where his thought process is right now. And I think there's a chance we get an answer today on whether or not he's going to be the next coach at North Carolina.
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LeVar Arrington
Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback Good seeing you, buddy.
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Albert Breer
Good to see you. Gong.
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LeVar Arrington
One of the things Albert pointed to is Bill Belichick and Mike Vrabel don't want a lot of these jobs. This is something I've talked about almost ad nauseam, is that as the wealth gap has widened, it used to be owners were worth four to $700 million. That's a lot of money. But they didn't like firing a year too early. They didn't like paying people, you know, $9 million to not work. But billionaires now, like the poorest owners in the NFL, are worth a billion. Some are worth 30, 40, 50. If Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk was interested, you could have people that eventually are almost, you know, their companies are trillion dollar companies. So it's just rounding errors. And they get more impulsive and they get crazier and they're just willing to blow out staffs. And I think it shows you is as Albert saying that Belichick's like, I'm looking at the openings who wants to take the jets and the Bears job. And I don't blame them. I think the Bears is a lot. There's no way you can give it to a coordinator. I mean, Matt Nagy, a very agreeable, likable guy, came from the Andy Reid tree, which is a good tree, got him to the playoffs twice with Mitch Trubisky, and they complained the entire time. And that was with Aaron Stafford and Kirk Cousins in their prime in the same division and nobody liked him. So it's very rare. And I say this, there's six great coaches in this league and there's six to seven great quarterbacks and maybe seven to eight great GMs. And that's all the great owners there are. Billionaire doesn't equal brilliant there. Okay? It's, it's a lot of these guys are family money. Never really run an organization. It's a toy, not a business. Their NFL team and they're impulsive and they, you know, they've, they've got their personal issues and their family issues and they take it out on the team. So, you know, Vrabel should be the Bears choice. I'm not sure if I'm Mike Vrabel if I take it and I love Chicago. Want more Heard the heard streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search heard to Listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Apple Card is the perfect card for your holiday shopping. You can apply on your iPhone in minutes and start using it right away. You'll earn up to 3% daily cash back on every purchase, including products at Apple like a new iPhone 16 or Apple Watch Ultra. Start holiday shopping for your friends and family today with Apple Card subject to credit approval. Apple Card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch terms and more@applecard.com this podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Did you know? The PayPal debit card now earns you 5% cash back in the monthly category of your choosing. Groceries, health restaurants, beauty, gas and apparel in up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like DoorDash, Sephora and Instacart. It's like having a little extra in your pocket every month. I'm using PayPal debit card to earn 5% cash back on apparel. With my travel schedule, I'm on the go. Sometimes I have to buy clothes online. It's the new normal. Just sign up for the PayPal debit card through the new app and you're ready to go. Download the new PayPal app. Sign up Start earning 5% cash back today. Don't just pay PayPal terms and limits apply. See paypal.com rewardspal Cashback earned as points redeemable for cash and other options on up to $1,000 spend per month. The PayPal debt debit MasterCard is issued by the Bancor Bank N.A. pursuant to license by MasterCard International, Inc. And may be used everywhere. MasterCard is accepted. Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everybody?
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Albert Breer
Adnan Virk here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast and.
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LeVar Arrington
The National Hockey League. It's NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers.
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Albert Breer
Hey, I'm Jason Amers, former 700 game.
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LeVar Arrington
NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy oh boy, does Daddy have a lot to say. I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other.
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
Right?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I just met you today, but.
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LeVar Arrington
We'Re gonna have a ton of guests.
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Albert Breer
From the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what?
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LeVar Arrington
Tons of back and forth on all things NHL. Yeah, you're still going to find out we're not just hockey talk. We're into all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear in NHL. Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts, Ferkey. That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL unscripted with Burkin demers and the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
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Colin Cowherd
That's a Hard Knocks was on last night Cowherd and Mike Tomlin stole the show again. He's got this talented young quarterback, Joey Porter Jr. Yeah. He's matching up with A.J. brown and Devonta Smith this week on Fox. And Tomlin took some time to motivate his young cornerback.
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LeVar Arrington
You care more about it than I do.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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LeVar Arrington
You know what I mean? Because shoot, I won't be great at the end of the day. Be great. Be great today.
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Colin Cowherd
You better push forward towards it today.
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LeVar Arrington
But they will happen as quickly as you like. Oh, I love him. I think Tomlin has a very much a Pete Carroll feel. He is a walk around coach. He's a motivator, he connects with players. Got that storytelling ability, great at the podium. Don't know if he's a schematic whiz, but Tomlin's value, if you go look at his record as an underdog coach, he's unbelievable. He is the best underdog coach in the last decade. So if you back Pittsburgh and Tomlin into a corner, they come out fire breathing. They're not always a great favorite. They're not always good late, but they are, they are when you back them in a corner. Like Philadelphia is all the side. Everybody loves Philadelphia. They got better players. I think four and a half for Tomlin is very tasty, mildly interesting.
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Colin Cowherd
So two quick things. So number one, did you see Porter putting on contacts in Hard Knocks? Who wears contact lenses now? I thought everybody got Lasik. Did you get Lasik for the eyes?
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LeVar Arrington
I'm never going to let sharp objects near my eyes. My dad was an optometrist. I'm not letting it happen.
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Colin Cowherd
So you wear contacts every day. Wow. I ditched those a while back.
- [31:11]
LeVar Arrington
All right, put one in. Pop it out.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so the next thing is, Joey Porter may want to get Lasik because he is the most penalized quarterback in the league.
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LeVar Arrington
He's aggressive, handsy.
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Colin Cowherd
He is grading out horribly for Pro Football Focus. Listen, I know we don't do a lot of prop bets on this show, but A.J. brown's comments, Kellen Moore coming out talking about A.J. brown's comments. Joey Porter being very penalty heavy, handsy. This is lining up for an AJ Brown big game in this matchup on Fox against Steelers Eagles.
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LeVar Arrington
Are you sure?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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LeVar Arrington
That means less Saquon Barkley getting off. What's winning for you? No, thank you.
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Colin Cowherd
No, they're going to be going eight. You got to keep him happy. You have to. You could still have a heavy dose of SAQUON BARKLEY, But A.J. brown, I will say I would look at his numbers over receptions and over yards. This is screaming like a nine for a buck 32 and two touchdowns.
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LeVar Arrington
He's getting 132 yards against the Steelers.
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Colin Cowherd
This has a Steel Curtain defense.
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LeVar Arrington
Come on, dude. Come on. It's pretty good.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, geez. All right, I guess we're on opposite side. I like Eagles here. All right, next up is the Philadelphia 76ers. It's been a rough season, Colin. There's your boy. Joel Embiid in street clothes. The sixers are 7 and 15, 12th in the east. And Embiid, man, at least they have him back in the lineup. The former MVP recently talked about recovering from his knee injuries. It's been extremely depressing. It's something that hasn't been figured out, and it's been extremely annoying because I would love to play every single game. I mean, Embiid is not like in his late 30s or even mid-30s. He's still a young, ish guy. And for all these injuries and he's always in street clothes, I feel like we've seen peak Joel Embiid, probably.
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LeVar Arrington
We've seen peak Sixers. Let's stop the game.
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Colin Cowherd
Wait a minute. I had credible NBA reporters this summer. I saw they were saying this is the best Big Three in the league with Embiid, Maxey and Paul George.
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LeVar Arrington
I sold my Embiid stock two years ago. I'm done. I like Paul George and Maxey, but.
- [33:13]
Colin Cowherd
They'Re not going anywhere.
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LeVar Arrington
You're not winning an NBA championship. If Joel Embiid in May and June is the centerpiece of your team. He struggled in the Olympics. He was the only guy that didn't fit the Olympic team. When are people Going to come to terms with individually gifted team fabric. Not great. He is not. Now you can say, well, they're, you know, if you look at the net rating for the Sixers, I'm not saying he can't make them better, but when you put him with stars in the world stage, he was the only star that didn't fit. He's not an easy fit. He has the ball in his hands too often on the perimeter. You know, you compare him to Shaq. Shaq wasn't taking the ball away from Kobe 18ft from the hole.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, he's had a good career, numbers are great, but his injuries totally stink. Colin, final story is we need you to stretch before, during your victory lap over your guy Sam Darnold. Okay, listen, he's playing the best football of his entire career and Vikings OC Wes Phillips knows it.
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LeVar Arrington
We all know that. You know, Sam is going to. Going to be a sought after type of. Type of guy from wherever that may be. Whatever his future ends up being is. I know all of us in this building are going to be happy for him no matter. No matter where that ends up being. I don't think he has to worry about that anymore. I think the worry might have been, okay, this is my opportunity to play. All right, he's past all that. He's proven the doubters and he's proven that he can play in this league. So if I was a GM in New York, I didn't like Zach Wilson, I didn't like Daniel Jones. I did like Sam Darnold. Sounds like a three for three from the old king.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, boy. I still. I don't have a landing spot for. For Darnold next year.
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Albert Breer
Colin.
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LeVar Arrington
I do. Timeout. Where's the draft order? Anybody back there have the draft order?
- [35:09]
Colin Cowherd
Right now it's Vegas and the Giants up top. Now, there is a report. I don't know if you saw this. I talked about it on my podcast. But there's a big booster in Miami who says Cam Ward is going to the Giants and that's because Deion does not want Shador in New York.
- [35:22]
LeVar Arrington
So you can.
- [35:22]
Colin Cowherd
Let's just put Shador to the Raiders, okay, Whatever. And Cam Ward to the Giants.
- [35:25]
LeVar Arrington
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Okay, so take the Raiders and Giants off the board. Okay. Patriots don't need one. Panthers won't. Jags probably won't. Titans may, but I think they'll stay with Levis. I wouldn't. I'd move on. So I think the Titans are in play for Sam Darnold. Or do they go Jalen Milro? I think they would go Darnold. The jets won't, Cleveland won't. Bears won't, Saints won't. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm saying there are two teams. The Titans absolutely are going to be in play. Okay. Okay. That's just. We got 22 more teams.
- [36:02]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. The other teams are good and they have quarterbacks. It's a limited market. Remember Justin Fields last year? I said there would be a robust market. You scoffed. There really wasn't. As things change. I'm just telling you, I don't see Colin. You look at the rest of the league, it's like, what am I getting in Darnold? I'm not getting this guy who thrived in Minnesota.
- [36:22]
LeVar Arrington
That's not. Let me ask you. If Seattle doesn't make the playoffs or gets hammered in the playoffs.
- [36:27]
Colin Cowherd
Interesting. Mildly interesting.
- [36:28]
LeVar Arrington
You're going to go back to Geno Smith. I think that's one in play.
- [36:31]
Colin Cowherd
Okay. I'll give you. That's a big if, though. If they don't make the playoffs, there's.
- [36:35]
LeVar Arrington
No way Sam Darnold has one team again.
- [36:39]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, I'll challenge you. Like, find it. Like, Atlanta's got Penix waiting in the wings. Right. Um, you look around, some of the other teams, like, Tampa's got Baker. They got their guy. Um, I don't really see it. Like, New Orleans Saints, they don't even have a coach yet. And is the new coach going to say, I got my guy, Sam Darnold, that's who I want. Like, that's how you get fired in two years. You know, I like Darnold. He's had a great season.
- [37:03]
LeVar Arrington
So you think he has. You think Tennessee is the only team that'll be.
- [37:07]
Colin Cowherd
You said Tennessee. I don't even know that they would go for it. Like, I know he's better than Will Levis, but is Callahan, like, yeah, that's what I want to do.
- [37:12]
LeVar Arrington
I honestly, I'm dead serious when I say this. Would you be shocked if Arizona moved Kyler Murray?
- [37:24]
Colin Cowherd
I need to look at the financials and see what, like, if there's a hit.
- [37:28]
LeVar Arrington
Do you think Kyler would have a bigger market than Sam?
- [37:31]
Colin Cowherd
I personally don't. I would.
- [37:33]
LeVar Arrington
I. I used to. I'm not sure. Sam, you get great intangibles with Kyler. You get talent and no intangibles.
- [37:41]
Colin Cowherd
What is Kyler Murray? I don't know. That was your guy. Remember, you were hanging with him at the UFC fight.
- [37:45]
LeVar Arrington
Let me throw another name out to you Indianapolis?
- [37:49]
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no.
- [37:50]
LeVar Arrington
Are you sure? If you watched. I mean, I like Anthony Richardson, the kid, and I like his athletic ability. Dude, it's not close. I talked to an executive two weeks ago and he's like, that's not a good college quarterback.
- [38:02]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I get that. Remember, they also said, hey, Joe Flacco gives us the best chance to win, and within like three weeks, Richardson was back. All right, it's going to be tough for Darl.
- [38:12]
LeVar Arrington
I don't know.
- [38:13]
Colin Cowherd
I think he's a good quarterback. He's having a great year. I'm rooting for him. But like, jets aren't going for it unless they get Pete Carroll.
- [38:21]
LeVar Arrington
J. Mac with the nose. Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line. I had a revelation during the Bills game this weekend against the Rams, and I'll talk about that coming up. Mark Sanchez, Final hour He's money. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Did you know? The PayPal debit card now earns you 5% cash back in the monthly category of your choosing. Groceries, health, restaurants, beauty, gas and apparel in up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like DoorDash, Sephora and Instacart. It's like having a little extra in your pocket every month. I'm using PayPal debit card to earn 5% cash back on apparel. With my travel schedule, I'm on the go. Sometimes I have to buy clothes online. It's the new normal. Just sign up for the PayPal debit card through the new app and you're ready to go. Download the new PayPal app. Sign up Start earning 5% cash back today. Don't just pay PayPal. Terms and limits apply. See paypal.com rewardspal Cashback earned as points redeemable for cash and other options on up to $1,000 spend per month. The PayPal Debit MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp N.A. pursuant to license by MasterCard International, Inc. And may be used everywhere. MasterCard is accepted. As we gather together during this holiday season, let me share a gift that keeps on giving. Chase Freedom With Chase Freedom Unlimited, you'll not only experience the joy of 1.5% unlimited cash back, but also the freedom to create cherished memories with your loved ones. Discover the magic and learn more@chasefreedom.com and let this season be filled with love, laughter and the delight of extra cash in your pocket. Cards issued by JP Morgan Chase Bank NA member fdic Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everybody?
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst, and boy oh boy, does Daddy have a lot to say. I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?
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Yeah, I just met you today, but.
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LeVar Arrington
We'Re going to have a ton of.
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Albert Breer
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LeVar Arrington
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Albert Breer
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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LeVar Arrington
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LeVar Arrington
So I was watching like most of America was. The Rams beat the Bills on Sunday. And it wasn't that the Rams beat them. They out coached them, they outplayed them, they outsmarted them. It was so easy. Kyron Williams, Puka, Nakua, Cooper, Cop. I mean the Rams don't even have their starting tight end. They did whatever they wanted to. And I was sitting over the last few years I've really felt There was a 10 year period that the Patriots were the best team. But I thought the NFC had more quality teams. And then because so many AFC owners and GMs hit on young star quarterbacks, the AFC for the last several years has been up here and the NFC's down here. I think the NFC has again surpassed the afc. When I watched the Rams beat the Bills, I mean the bottom of the AFC is awful. 11th is goofy. Cleveland, well, bottom of the NFC. Carolina not only almost beat Philly this weekend, San Francisco is the 11th best team. So the NFC to me the middle and the bottom is much stronger. Now do they have a burrow, an Allen, a Lamar, a Herbert, a Mahomes? No, they don't. And if you take out Matt Stafford, and I love Jared Goff, but if you take out Matt Stafford, he's about the only guy that you can put up against a Mahomes, a Burrow, an Allen, a Herbert and you feel like you or a superior on any given Sunday or Monday. I mean let's be honest, I like Jalen Hurts, but Philadelphia coaches since the buy have been taking passes away and in the last four games Green Bay is reducing the number of throws Jordan Love is making. And I'm a big Jordan Love fan. He's averaging about 22 passes in his last four games. And so Green Bay and Philadelphia with good young quarterbacks, not great good, are saying we want our quarterback to throw less. So I do feel like the quarterbacks are superior in the AFC and that matters a lot. But I think the teams are better in the nfc and I just got this this morning. The NFC is 41 and 29 against the AFC. So it's not particularly close. NFC is back to being the better conference. Now the key is for the NFC because the AFC not only has better quarterbacks, they're all in their Prime. You know, the Burroughs and Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, they're all in their prime. Stafford's not, Goff's probably late prime, middle to late prime. So it's essential that the NFC that Jaden Daniels in Washington, Michael Penix, J.J. mcCarthy in Minnesota, Penix in Atlanta and Caleb Williams hit because then you can have star quarterbacks and the better conference. I will say this. Josh McDaniels was on earlier. He was an hour ago. He was phenomenal. And I asked him, if you went into Chicago right now, coach or coordinator, what would be the first line of business to fix Caleb Williams and the offense, what's in his bucket that he feels really good about? And you start with that and honestly major in that. And then if you say, hey, I think there's a few things that would help us as a team if we could add these to your bucket, think if we do this, that helps us get the ball down the field more. We can get this guy the ball if we do some of this. But I think to me it has to start with where he's comfortable. And look, these rookie quarterbacks, as we've seen, there's been flashes of great play from all of them. Some of them have hit a little bit of a lull or a wall, if you will, and then you kind of got to get them back. And so I think to me it starts with what do you feel most comfortable doing on a play to play basis? Let's do more of that. And I also think when an organization feels like they're a little lost at sea, like the jets, you got to hire a culture changer. The Chargers, they weren't poorly owned, but after Brandon Staley, you felt like, man, you got to get the locker room back. They went and got Jim Harbaugh. Detroit, for years a mess. They went and got Dan Campbell. I think when the organization is dealing with a lot of turbulence, you have to get a culture changer, not just a guy that's good with schemes. Green Bay got LaFleur. He's a scheme guy. He's developed into a culture builder. But they didn't need a culture fixer. Green Bay is always good, right? Green Bay is well run. They didn't need a culture changer. Houston did with D'Amico. And Mike Vrabel to me is the overwhelming and obvious fit for Chicago. Albert Breer joined me about an hour ago, 45 minutes ago on if Vrabel would be interested.
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Albert Breer
They need somebody who's going to come in and change what they've been it's been 15 years since they won a playoff game. They've run through a lot of different coaches there. They've vacillated back and forth between defensive coach and offensive coach and all those different things. And I think they need somebody and I think they recognize this. They need somebody who's going to put their foot, maybe going to be able to put his foot in the ground and drive the organization in a certain direction. And to me, that's Mike Vrabel. Does Mike Vrabel want to walk into that situation? If he's got options, I think the Bears would want him. Will he want the Bears is the question.
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LeVar Arrington
Yeah, I don't know if he'd take the job. I know Mike a little. I don't know if he'd take the job. Not easy. It. And it does show you that Breer said that Belichick and Vrabel are both gun shy. I mean, Jim Harbaugh, why do you pick the Chargers? It's like, okay, I got Herbert and a left tackle, we can go from there. And it's worked pretty well. So it's, you know, it's really funny. Like if you're somebody that has options in life, what are you thinking about? I've said this forever. You can't just chase money, chase good ownership or management. There's money out there in a lot of industries, right? There's a lot of money. There's not a lot of great vision, not a lot of great management. And I think what you're seeing is that's why what Demiko Ryan's did with Houston is so impressive. I had heard stories that when, you know, people were going on zoom calls and they were talking about, like doing coaching hires for Houston, some of the zoom calls were comedy. It was a bit of a circus. So D'Amicos come in and CJ Stroud, both very committed, bottom line, no nonsense. And they've centered it. So, you know, you got to consider a lot if you got options. And there's multiple suitors and I think Chicago offers. The other thing about the Chicago job, and we got to be totally honest here, this is the best division in football. I mean, Chicago is actually a really talented fourth place team. But Minnesota, great head coach, superstar offensive players. Green Bay, exquisitely run, excellent, excellent skill players. Quarterback, wide receiver, now running back, tight end. Detroit could be the best roster in the league. Great front office, excellent quarterback, best online in the league, easily. So you take the Chicago job, you are looking uphill. It's like, you know, I've said this when Sean Payton took the Broncos job, I'm like, okay, Mahomes, Reed, they gonna be around a while. You know, that's, that's Tiger woods in his prime. You're not gonna win a lot of majors. So there you go. Mark Sanchez will be joining us in one hour from now. J. Mac, have you watched, have you watched the Belichick story? Simmer today. Are you, are you waiting for it?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I have one eye on it. I'm just excited for Belichick, North Carolina, where you have the keys to the kingdom. Your show, great setup. You go to Chicago, have to deal with this Warren vs polls nonsense. Who wants to get in the middle of that cold war? No, thanks. That's not a good job. And that's prob. That's the problem with some of these. Like, I Forget, was it McDaniels or somebody who outlined. It was like, do you want to go to the jets and work for Woody Johnson?
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LeVar Arrington
Now you're coming around on the power of the Tar Heel brand.
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Colin Cowherd
It's not the brand. It's just like, I get what I want, I do what I want. Belichick's going to go in and be the, he's going to run the show. They're going to come in and tell him something. He's like, thank you for that input. I'll see you later.
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LeVar Arrington
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Jason Emers here, And after playing 700.
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LeVar Arrington
NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out. Hey, I got a lot to say here too, okay? Each week we'll get together, chat about the sport that we love.
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