Hour 2 - Unspoken Confidence & NBA Noise!

Summary

Summary of "Hour 2 - Unspoken Confidence & NBA Noise!"

Release Date: April 9, 2025

In the second hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, the discussion centers on the intricate dynamics of confidence versus cockiness in sports personalities and the intense competitive environment of the NBA playoffs. This episode provides deep insights into how athletes' self-perception impacts their performance and public image, alongside an analysis of current NBA seeding battles.

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1. Confidence vs. Cockiness in Sports Personalities

The conversation kicks off with an exploration of the fine line between confidence and cockiness, using prominent NFL figures as case studies.

• Baker Mayfield’s Transformation:

  • Nate Thompson emphasizes Baker Mayfield’s evolution, stating, “He graduated from cockiness to confidence. Because when I think about the difference... confidence comes with a smile” [04:25].
  • Steve Covino agrees, noting that Mayfield’s performance and humility have reshaped his public image: “He was humbled... and I think we need to remember that we didn't all love Baker Mayfield” [05:55].

• Shador Sanders and Self-Belief:

  • Dan Orlovsky comments on Shador Sanders: “We can't praise Baker Mayfield and fall in love with Baker Mayfield because of his charisma, cockiness and self-belief” [05:55].
  • Nate Thompson counters by highlighting Sanders' elite field vision: “He's saying he has elite field vision and everything else” [06:22].

• Personal Anecdotes on Humility:

  • Steve Covino shares a personal story about being humbled through personal setbacks: “I was heartbroken over a girl... She was the best that happened in my whole life” [05:07].
  • This narrative underscores the hosts’ belief that true confidence develops from overcoming arrogance and embracing humility.

Notable Quotes:

• “Confidence comes with a smile. You're backed by results.” – Nate Thompson [04:25]
• “At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.” – Nate Thompson [01:19]

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2. NBA Playoff Seeding and Competitive Intensity

The discussion shifts to the NBA’s highly competitive playoff seeding race, highlighting the unprecedented tightness of the standings.

• Unprecedented Tightness:

  • Steve Covino observes, “19 of the 20 seeds aren't even locked in yet” [14:20], emphasizing the razor-thin margins between playoff spots.
  • Rich Davis adds, “If the Cavs beat the Bulls tonight, then they'll lock in the number one seed for the East” [15:07], illustrating the volatility of the current NBA race.

• Denver Nuggets’ Management Shakeup:

  • Steve Covino and Nate Thompson analyze the Denver Nuggets' decision to fire head coach Mike Malone and general manager Calvin Booth.
  • Josh Kroenke, vice chair of Kroenke Sports Entertainment, explains the rationale: “We've lost our last four and we're trending towards a direction that I thought would probably be a very near end to our season” [20:17].
  • The hosts draw parallels to historical team management changes, suggesting that Denver aims to redirect its strategy amidst a challenging season.

Notable Quotes:

• “It's insane. That's a lot.” – Nate Thompson [15:30]
• “Humility kicks in. And I think we've all seen this with ourselves...” – Nate Thompson [05:09]

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3. Examples of Confidence in Sports Figures

The hosts delve into real-world examples of athletes who embody true confidence versus those perceived as cocky.

• Deion Sanders:

  • Steve Covino reminisces about Deion Sanders’ charismatic yet ultimately respected persona: “Neon Deion would get in the batter's pocket and draw a dollar sign... But he eventually backed that up with results” [08:38].
  • This example underscores the importance of backing confidence with tangible achievements.

• Shohei Ohtani:

  • Nate Thompson praises Shohei Ohtani as the epitome of unspoken confidence: “You don't need to act confident. You just are confident” [09:47].
  • Steve Covino adds, “Shohei Ohtani... he's having more fun than him [referring to another athlete], and he's riding straight up on confidence backed by results” [09:20].

Notable Quotes:

• “Confidence is unspoken. It doesn't need to be explained.” – Dan Byer [09:17]
• “People pick up on that, though. That's the thing...” – Nate Thompson [09:57]

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4. Interactive Segments and Listener Engagement

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage listeners with interactive segments, including:

• Last One Standing Trivia Game:

  • Participants compete in sports trivia for prizes like Swiggy stainless steel water bottles.
  • Rich Davis announces, “Covino, the Giants” leading to a competitive trivia exchange [27:34].

• Promotional Segments:

  • Advertisements for sponsors like Tire Rack and Travis Matthew are seamlessly integrated, offering listeners discounts and highlighting product features [23:31].

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5. Concluding Thoughts

In wrapping up the episode, the hosts reiterate the importance of distinguishing between genuine confidence and superficial cockiness. They emphasize that true confidence is quietly supported by achievements and humility, making it inherently more admirable and effective in both sports and personal development.

Final Notable Quotes:

• “That's a thin line, but there's a significant line there.” – Steve Covino on confidence vs. cockiness [07:59]
• “It's all about the results.” – Nate Thompson [12:43]

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This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" offers listeners a comprehensive analysis of the psychological aspects influencing athletes' performances and public perceptions, alongside a keen observation of the current landscape in the NBA. The blend of personal anecdotes, expert opinions, and interactive engagement makes it a compelling listen for sports enthusiasts seeking deeper insights into their favorite games and players.

Transcript

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Julie Swearbinks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Swearbinks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Swearbinks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Swearbinks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeremy Scott]

Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.

[Nate Thompson]

Every time I hear about my dad.

[Steve Covino]

Is, oh, he's a killer.

[Nate Thompson]

He's just straight evil.

[Jeremy Scott]

I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

[Nate Thompson]

At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

[Jeremy Scott]

Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio.

[Steve Covino]

Find your local station for COVINO [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app or by searching FSR. Oh, there they are.

[Nate Thompson]

Here we are. And it's going to be an awesome hour because we're giving away prizes. We're bribing listeners to hang with us. We're going to play Last One Standing special Tuesday edition. Because we had so much fun yesterday, we ran out of time. So your chance to win a Swiggy this hour. That's our stainless steel water bottle, the most coveted prize in all the land. So, last one standing this hour. Plus we got to continue talking about cockiness or confidence, no doubt.

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[Nate Thompson]

And congrats.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, Billy, Billy.

[Nate Thompson]

Billy L. Seriously, congrats, man. He had the best bracket in the Tractor Supply Fox Sports Radio bracket challenge.

[Steve Covino]

Billy.

[Nate Thompson]

Billy finished with an impressive 160. I'm sorry, 176 points.

[Steve Covino]

Barely beating two listeners by one point to take home the title. Billy will win 25 hundo in gift cards from Tractor Supply. Nice, Billy. And as far as the host go, Chris Plank finished first with 165, followed by Plaxico Burris with second place. Tractor supply knows about a winning season and what it takes. Teamwork and it can do attitude. Thankfully, when you got neighbors woo wee like Tractor Supply, you could get things done for life out here. Our good friends at Tractor Supply, thanks again.

[Nate Thompson]

Tractor Supply. Congrats again to Billy L. And of course the Florida Gators with the big win last night.

[Steve Covino]

Now not better. As we said in the first hour, better to have gotten a shot off. The fact that they couldn't get that final shot off is going to haunt them.

[Nate Thompson]

Gotta shoot your shot.

[Steve Covino]

Gotta get that shot.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. It's gonna haunt you forever if you don't. And again, I mean that in life and on the court. Now, what's the difference between me and you?

[Steve Covino]

Me and you?

[Nate Thompson]

What's the difference between cockiness and confidence? Dan Orlovsky again, props to him and his amazing son. His amazing son. He said now this was yesterday, right? Because there's an update. He says we can't praise Baker Mayfield and fall in love with Baker Mayfield because of his charisma, cockiness and self belief. And then kind of view it differently with Shador. I do agree with that. But what I said before, I'll say it again. You have to remember Baker Mayfield sort of earned everybody's respect. He graduated from cockiness to confidence. Because when I think about the difference.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

Confidence comes with a smile. Confidence also comes with. You're backed by results. Mayfield proved to everybody that he was a bonafide NFL player and. And he could ball.

[Steve Covino]

But not only that, he was. I think he bumped into the iron cheek.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Because he was humbled.

[Nate Thompson]

He was, you know. And I know what you mean by that, too Rich. And there's so many personal examples you could sort of tie in if you want. I remember my uncle telling me I was heartbroken, dude. Heartbroken over a girl one time. And then I think I got like Fired from a job or whatever. But I was heartbroken over a girl.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, that was Steve's no good, very bad day.

[Nate Thompson]

It was Steve Covino's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. Right.

[Steve Covino]

Fired and dumped.

[Nate Thompson]

And I remember, like, why?

[Steve Covino]

Oh, and you pitch headphones.

[Nate Thompson]

She was the best that happened in my whole life. And I remember my uncle saying to me, I went to my uncle for advice. What should I do? How do I get her back? And he's like, wanna know something? Let me be honest with you. I like you better this way. I'm like, why? He's like, cuz you're humble now. You've been humbled for the first time. Because you know what? I thought nothing could stop this guy. I was arrogant and I was cocky and I was backed by nothing and no results. It was just in my own head, in my own belief. So that's the difference between cockiness and confidence. The humility, again, the results. Yeah, sure, Sanders is great, but he still has a lot to prove, and that's fine. I'm sure he will. But I think we need to remember that we didn't all love Baker Mayfield.

[Steve Covino]

No.

[Nate Thompson]

He came after all the humility, the humbleness, and again, proving that he could play in the NFL. Not saying that I'm not rooting for Shador. I'm a big Deion Sanders fan. Absolutely rooting for the kid. But as Orlovsky said again today. Now here's the update. He might be one of the hardest QBs that he ever had to rate.

[Steve Covino]

And I understand that. Based on.

[Nate Thompson]

Hardest quarterback to evaluate.

[Steve Covino]

Based on his assessment. And it's because the offensive line stunk. So.

[Nate Thompson]

But he's saying he has elite field vision and everything else.

[Rich Davis]

And also a lot of his throws.

[Steve Covino]

Five yards.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Right off the line of scrimmage.

[Steve Covino]

Because with a bad old line, this guy was making quick decisions. You don't really have a lot of looks at Chidor, but to wrap up what you're saying about Baker, Baker was. Was tested and we saw Baker fail a little bit and fall. And like you getting dumped and losing your job. Old Steve Kavita. Yeah, you were. You were humbled. Humility kicks in. And I think we got to see Baker, you know, laying on his back.

[Nate Thompson]

Humanizes you, humanizes you. People relate to you more. And I think we don't view Baker Mayfield that way anymore because of all that. So that's the difference. And like you said, Rich before, confidence comes with a smile. Cockiness, you're just tooting your own horn the whole time. You haven't really proven it. And there's.

[Steve Covino]

There's hosts like that here on our network, espn, cbs, Fox. Anyway, you name it. There's people that you look at and go, why are you taking yourself so serious like that? The ability to laugh at yourself. I always say that when it comes to dating as well. What makes a guy cocky or confident with women? A confident guy is sure of himself, but he's also okay being vulnerable in front of the woman, acting silly, you know, being the butt of the joke. If he does something, you know, goofy, that's confidence. A cocky guy is a guy that if someone even chuckles or laughs at him, he's like, what are you laughing at me for?

[Rich Davis]

Like, it's just really insecurity is what it boils down to.

[Steve Covino]

It's insecurity and it's put offish. And I think that again.

[Nate Thompson]

And there's a fine line of arrogance, too, right? So, yeah, there's the difference between cockiness and confidence. It's a thin line, but there's a significant line there.

[Steve Covino]

And I'm not wishing this for him, but let's say Shador goes to the NFL, right?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, dude. We wish nothing but the greatest success for him.

[Steve Covino]

And he follows a Baker blueprint in that. Let's say. Let's say he ends up. I'm just picking a team, the Giants, I know they seem stacked in the QB room right now, but let's say he did go there and he had a really rough go at it, and the media was rough on him, and I was like, man, Shador stinks. And then he got a chance on a second team and he lit it up. We'd all be like, there he is.

[Nate Thompson]

Like, also think about his dad, right? His dad had. His dad might be the cockiest guy that ever wore. Sure.

[Steve Covino]

His dad, during the draft, told teams, I'm not going to look at your playbook. When's your draft pick?

[Nate Thompson]

But I'm not going to remember.

[Steve Covino]

I'm. I'll be gone by that dude.

[Nate Thompson]

I remember watching the Yankees when a young Deion Sanders, Neon Deion Sanders, before he was prime time. Deion Sanders, Neon Deion would get in the batter's pocket and draw a dollar sign in the batter's box. And he was the most flashy dude with Jerry Curl. Right. But again, he eventually backed that up with results. When you realize, like, oh, you know, he's not necessarily cocky. He's confident and he proves it. You know, his son is cut from the same cloth. Will he prove it? Absolutely. I think he will. But I think that's the difference. That's the difference.

[Dan Byer]

To me, confidence is unspoken. It doesn't need to be explained. Like, you don't tell people, oh, I'm confident.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

The results, very similar to when you see very wealthy people, like these billionaires. Like, remember there was a joke. I know we all hate him now, but, like, where we saw Elon Musk's kitchen, and it was like that old, dated 90s wood.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes.

[Dan Byer]

Or like how sometimes you see, like, the CEO of Apple and he's out, and he's just wearing, like, polos and, you know, khakis and a polo. And, like, they're not flashy at all, because they don't have to be.

[Nate Thompson]

You don't have to prove that, because.

[Dan Byer]

They know underneath they're sitting on near a trillion dollars. Similar with confidence and cockiness. Like, you don't need to say, I'm confident. You don't need to prove you're confident. You don't need to act confident. You just are confident.

[Nate Thompson]

And you know what? People pick up on that, though. That's the thing, and I think that's what cocky people don't understand is everyone else sees it like, dude, you're full of hot air.

[Steve Covino]

I do want to point out that we can't discount what a cool characteristic it is for a Shador Sanders to be so confident. Yeah. Because borderline cocky. Where in every stage of he said that wherever I go, I will change the culture. Some people look at that and say, who do you think you are? And then other people are like, I am other people. Like, you know, it's hard not to almost admire that level of confidence.

[Nate Thompson]

Dude. You know what, though?

[Steve Covino]

He's saying, wherever I go, I will bring a winning culture. And he's a toy. He's a kid.

[Nate Thompson]

And if he does that, then he's proven and he's awesome, and we root him on moving forward. So, again, why aren't we treating Shador Sanders confidence the same way we treated Baker Mayfield? Baker Mayfield was hated on the beginning.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. So I think I'm actually very curious where this guy.

[Nate Thompson]

By the way, I'm not even saying me. That's sort of. Sort of the perception. I would say, if you follow social media or what people are saying on TV or what you sort of get from him. It's. He's hard to evaluate because he does have an insane level of cockiness or confidence, however you want to look at it.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. And it's hard to tell with these teams what's real, what's a smokescreen. What they're lying about who they're really looking at. And DB reported earlier that he's going to take a meeting with the Steelers for one of their top 30 meetings. Now, they pick 21. So if he slides all the way down to 21 in. In, does that humble you or does that put a fire under you and you're like one of the two quarterbacks we know so well who said all those other teams made a mistake. I'm going to show them.

[Steve Covino]

You know, I do love that thought. Like, you know, it could light a fire. But let me ask you this. Do you remember it was on the primetime 30 for 30. Maybe you, Dan Byer. I were. Sam will remember Deion Sanders told the team when he was, when, you know, primetime was getting drafted, a team almost offered the playbook. And he's like, when's your draft pick? And he declined because he's like, nah, I'll keep your playbook. I. I won't be on the board by then. And I remember people at that time were like, how cocky could you be? And, you know, let's be honest. If you're Deion Sanders and It's, you know, 30 years ago, you think you're going to, if you, if you got a late round pick, you think you're going to. Dion still going to be on the board. I love that. I love that. Cockiness.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

In that regard.

[Nate Thompson]

But when you back it up by.

[Steve Covino]

Results, confidence, not cockiness.

[Nate Thompson]

All right, so that's our take on it. And again, good luck to him. And I hope. The thing I hope is meeting with the Steelers. I almost said Pirates. Steelers goes well.

[Steve Covino]

No, if he was like that, he could play both.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. If he was as good as Deion.

[Steve Covino]

He could, you know, and that's something we'll, you know, Ohtani is the closest thing playing on both sides of the ball. I was talking about that with some buddies last night.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, he's the definition of the difference between cockiness and confidence. Shohei Ohtani, who's smiling bigger than that guy? Who's having more fun than him?

[Steve Covino]

Is he telling anyone I'm the best?

[Nate Thompson]

No, because he's riding straight up on confidence backed by results.

[Steve Covino]

Who?

[Nate Thompson]

Shohei Ohtani.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, I'm sorry. Ohtani.

[Jeremy Scott]

P. Shohei Ohtani.

[Steve Covino]

Ohtani. I was talking to some buddies last night. I don't know if you've been seeing some of the clips. We all see the same social media clips a lot of times, like Jameis Winston playing baseball in college at Florida State. And throwing the ball from the warning track.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

To home plate.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. It's a famous clip, like 100 mile an hour bullet.

[Steve Covino]

And you do realize that a lot of these guys just have. So they could have played a lot of different sports, but we're just never going to see a Bo Jackson or prime time again like that. And you know what? As we get ready for. As we get ready for a little last one standing, which is my, my favorite game we play here on Fox Sports radio. Get involved. 87799 on Fox. 87799 on Fox. We're going to play that next. I saw a stat that Danny G. Hit us up with and we talked the other day about just how tight the NBA playoff brackets are.

[Nate Thompson]

We said tighter than your jeans. In the early 2000s, you did say that Rich used to wear ballerina pants.

[Steve Covino]

We, we were saying how more so than ever. It's like the difference between the three seed and the six seed. And like, there's a lot of. There's a lot of seeding still yet to be done. And it's proven by the fact that there's a chart Danny showed us that 19 of the 20 seeds aren't even locked in yet, other than OKC at number one. Every other seed from 1 to 10 in the Western Conference and 1 to 10 in the Eastern Conference. Of those, 19 of the 20 have not been clinched in an order yet, meaning depending on how the team's doing the final games of the season. Because they're all within one or two games. It's wild.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. If the Cavs beat the Bulls tonight, then they'll lock in the number one seed for the East.

[Nate Thompson]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

But as of right now, as we're speaking live on national radio, there are so many seeds still sitting there where we don't know what team is going to be where. And there's only a couple of games separating so many teams, especially in the West. Two games separate, six teams right now.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Steve Covino]

And that, that will affect home court. That'll affect who you play. Like, there's going to be people maybe positioning like, oh, maybe we don't want to play that team first. So much at stake in the final week and then starting a week from today, I believe is the playing games where we, you know, see 7, 8, 9, 10 go at it. So NBA playoffs, we always talk about, ah, it just turns up a notch. So that's one week from today we get the NBA.

[Nate Thompson]

Is that why the Nuggets fired the coach or what? And then you heard it so tight. If they're fourth in the West 47 and 32. And they won last year, two seasons ago. Two. I'm sorry, two seasons ago. Now two seasons ago.

[Steve Covino]

I'm swine. Stevie.

[Nate Thompson]

It's still proven though. It's kind of shaky and kind of interesting to think that they fired their coach and GM today. 47 and 32. However, they lost four in a row. The Nuggets lost four in a row and they're three and seven in their last 10. Is that really the reason why you're.

[Rich Davis]

A championship winning coach? You know, it's just two years ago. So you think this is, this has to be more than just a four game losing streak. This is something that went wrong in the locker room. The leadership of the team from the top down to the locker and there's something going on here that we're not hearing about.

[Nate Thompson]

That's really it. What's stirring the Kool Aid here? The fact that they're three and seven in their last ten and lost four in a row? Or is there something else bigger going on behind the scenes?

[Steve Covino]

You know, there's something bigger and you gotta, you gotta connect the dots on that. And by the way, Celtics fans very upset. You forgot they won last year. Well, you just forgot the Celtics. He was like pretty forgettable.

[Rich Davis]

That's okay.

[Steve Covino]

He's a forgettable. Danny G. Pounced on me. No, but I was thinking like that was, remember it was, it was, it was Celtics beating.

[Rich Davis]

How could you forget Jason Tatum celebration?

[Nate Thompson]

It was kind of forget.

[Steve Covino]

It was all emotional. But remember Tatum and you know, we wanted Dallas to put up a better fight. The Mavericks sort of got shut down pretty easy. But yeah, Celtics, we don't think we disrespected you. I'll compare it to relationships because that's sort of what we do here on Cavino and Rich. And I think we've all seen this with ourselves a friend or family member. You could be dating someone. And it's maybe a little different with Mike Malone because they did win a couple of years ago. But you were find yourself in a position where you're like, yeah, like there's nothing fundamentally wrong. Meaning like we could exist together, we get along, we live together. It's all good. I'm just not in love. And I just don't think this is what's going to take us to the next level. And when as they clip the damn buyer played when everything is really just based on winning. Maybe the, maybe the Nuggets deep down inside and ownership Thinks, you know, we're thankful we won one. It was carried by the joker. Coach is good. He brought the, he brought the heap. Right now you're thinking to yourself, maybe this, maybe they look at the field and they say we're missing something. And I don't know how you do that with four games left.

[Nate Thompson]

That was my point, though.

[Steve Covino]

Four games left.

[Nate Thompson]

You did it two years ago.

[Rich Davis]

And you guys liked Malone. Remember at the parade, you liked what he was talking about there. And he had said something about being the Lakers daddy and all that.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, he was getting a little feisty.

[Rich Davis]

He's appeared on our show a few times because of what he says on microphones. He was definitely a fiery guy.

[Nate Thompson]

But that's why it proves that there has to be something that we don't know yet more.

[Rich Davis]

He's a good coach. And already on Twitter, I saw some NBA analysts saying, keep an eye on him to possibly be Coach Pop's successor in San Antonio. He'll definitely land somewhere for sure. But this, this, this is something where personalities. Yeah, exactly. With ownership.

[Nate Thompson]

Because, Rich, I like your analogy. Like, he's just not the one. Right. I'm not in love with.

[Steve Covino]

But he was two years ago.

[Nate Thompson]

But he was, but he was two years ago, so he's not now.

[Steve Covino]

It's, it's, it's tough to assess. DB I got to ask, because I'm sure you're keeping an eye on this story all day. Has there been any hints other than like maybe the fit's just not right anymore? I know that's very generic, right?

[Iowa Sam]

Yeah, actually there's a lot because Josh Kroenke, the chair of Cronke Sports Entertainment, spoke about an hour ago. We played a little off the top of the, at the top of the hour and then in the show earlier. But he said a few things. This. Well, here's Josh Kroenke.

[Josh Kroenke]

This wasn't a decision that was taken lightly or taken as in a reactionary fashion to anything specific. You know, having observed that group over a period of time, there were certain trends that were very worrisome to me at different points in time, but they would get masked by a few wins here and there. And, you know, in the world of professional sports, when winning and losing is your currency, you know, winning can mask a lot of things.

[Iowa Sam]

So he said that. And then he went to this when he gave specific numbers.

[Josh Kroenke]

We went on an eight game win streak right before the All Star break, you know, but since then, I think we're 11 and 13. We've lost our last four. And we're trending towards a direction that I thought would probably be a very near end to our season in the near future.

[Steve Covino]

Okay, I get the sense of that, of that they think come the playoffs right now with Malone in charge, they weren't going to stack up against the Lakers, okc, Golden State where they're at. And yeah, but you're going to shake.

[Nate Thompson]

It up right now. And all of a sudden.

[Steve Covino]

But I like the.

[Iowa Sam]

Cause here's the trump card. This is where I think people will be like, oh, okay, we were going.

[Josh Kroenke]

To be changing these roles at the end of the season. From that point forward, I think that, you know, I became comfortable with the thinking of, you know, let's try to shake this tree and squeeze, squeeze as much out of this as we can.

[Iowa Sam]

So they had made a decision to already move on from both of those guys before the season even completed and to their point, well, if we're going to do this anyway and now we're on a four game skid, why not just cut bait now and see if we can make anything of it? If they were already going to do.

[Steve Covino]

That now, now here's interesting, here's an interesting thought. With very few games left in the regular season, as you head into the postseason, if you got, I mean when you have the joker and you have that team, it's not like you're, you're, you're, you know, wishing upon a star like they could go on a run with the quality of talent they have on that team. So what have you got? You know, the interim in there and they did get hot. So it's not a crazy idea because if you thought as the, as he said, worrisome trends and currency is winning, it's not a crazy idea when you think about it in that way.

[Iowa Sam]

Not at all. And not to draw parallels, but there's two parallels to the city of Milwaukee. And I brought this up with you guys. When Taylor Jenkins was fired in Memphis, when the brewers fired in 2008, Ned Yost with two weeks remaining because they were battling the Mets for the wild card, they can Ned Yost because if they didn't make the playoffs, they weren't going to keep them the next year brought in Dale Swaim who moved over and took over as the interim manager. They ended up holding on, got to the playoffs for the first time in 26 years and it worked out for them in that case. But Ned Yost was likely going to be gone anyway. I use the Bucks as the example of now you've got Jokic and you just can't waste it. Just like the Bucks have kind of done with Giannis since they won four years ago. I haven't done anything, you know, in that time. And I think that the Nuggets are now starting to feel that crunch of we have to get more out of maybe this generational player that we've only won one championship with.

[Steve Covino]

That's. That's a great point, DB That's a great point. And you know what your thoughts if you want to chime in on the Nuggets making changes and also if you want to play our game, by the.

[Nate Thompson]

Way, Dan Byers had Dale Swaim. He means Dale sve.

[Steve Covino]

The everybody remembers.

[Nate Thompson]

The card Dale Sveam when you got him right.

[Steve Covino]

I remember that baseball card. Remember Dale Sweeney? We're going to give away a Swiggy. We're going to give away some prizes you want in 87799 on Fox. We'll play last one standing next right here on FOX Sports Radio.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

Hey, we're Covino and Rich on FOX Sports Radio filling in for Dan Patrick. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Next week, the Dan Patrick Hatrick. Listen out for that. And we're joined by Coach Baseball on over Promise. This Thursday, our bonus pod that's on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page.

[Steve Covino]

Ball game.

[Nate Thompson]

What did I say?

[Steve Covino]

Coach. Baseball.

[Nate Thompson]

Coach. Ball game.

[Steve Covino]

Baseball. Baseball.

[Nate Thompson]

Sorry, I'm just such a baseball fan. I'm Steve Cavino. That is Rich Davis. We're live from the Tire Rack.com studio. Remember, after the show, the podcast Goes up every day. So if you miss any of today's show, be sure to listen to the podcast. Search Covino and Rich, wherever you get your podcast. Earlier in the show, we were talking about people and athletes that are better when they're fat. We were talking about people earlier how you know certain people are better when they're bigger.

[Steve Covino]

John Goodman, my favorite.

[Nate Thompson]

I saw a trip hit us up on social media at Covino and Rich. He said Santa Clauses. No one respects a skinny Santa Claus like bad Santa Billy Bob. Yeah, exactly.

[Steve Covino]

That doesn't work.

[Rich Davis]

Clothing hanging off of him.

[Nate Thompson]

Thanks for all the feedback at Covino and Rich. Check anything you missed on the podcast, follow rate and review. Give us five stars and you qualify for a Swiggy. But if you want to play for a Swiggy, we do that right now. Last one standing. You have five seconds to battle for your sports trivia.

[Steve Covino]

Life, man.

[Iowa Sam]

Oh, I got it. Yeah, I don't got it.

[Nate Thompson]

Put your electronic devices down and pick your sports knowledge.

[Steve Covino]

It's CNR's last one standing.

[Nate Thompson]

Last one standing.

[Rich Davis]

All right, I have four categories ready to go if needed. A tiebreaker. Each contestant gets five seconds to stay alive in the round. If you run out of time or you answer incorrectly, Iowa. Sam will take you out with his big bad buzzer. We keep battling until you are the last one standing. If you win two of the rounds, you're the top dog. Here are the contestants. Six winner, Steve Covino.

[Nate Thompson]

You sure it's not seven?

[Rich Davis]

It's six.

[Nate Thompson]

I don't know.

[Steve Covino]

Get out of it.

[Rich Davis]

You know, Brady, I. I have a chart in my computer. And in there, the leader, Dan Byer, 26 time winner.

[Iowa Sam]

Hello.

[Rich Davis]

Trying to catch up to him. 10 time winner, Rich Davis.

[Steve Covino]

That's me.

[Rich Davis]

And we're going to go to the studio lines right now to see who's playing for cnr. Stainless steel Swiggy DB Use you for this. Would you love to travel to beautiful Carson City, Nevada, Las Vegas, Nevada, Lacey, Washington, or San Antonio, Texas?

[Iowa Sam]

Let's go to the home of the final four. Let's go to Texas.

[Rich Davis]

All right. San Antonio.

[Steve Covino]

They got big women there. Charles Barkley confirmed that a second time last night.

[Rich Davis]

That feud is going to go forever.

[Steve Covino]

I love it.

[Nate Thompson]

It wouldn't be the same if they were thin.

[Rich Davis]

Rich, what's up? What's up, guys? Hey, what do you do for a living there in San Antonio?

[Steve Covino]

I'm a contractor. A lot of work these days. A lot of work these days. Let's go.

[Nate Thompson]

What's up, buddy?

[Steve Covino]

Yes, sir.

[Rich Davis]

All right. And by the way, Spot is the fact checker during this game of anxiety.

[Dan Byer]

So stressful.

[Rich Davis]

When I say your name, the clock is going to begin. Here is the first category. It's called 12 with at least six. You have five seconds to name one of the MLB teams who already has six or more wins this season. All right. And Covino, you're going to be up first as soon as the clock goes.

[Nate Thompson]

Now, let's go with the Dodgers and get them out of the way. There you go.

[Dan Byer]

9 and 3.

[Rich Davis]

Rich.

[Steve Covino]

Let's go with the Yankees, 6 and.

[Dan Byer]

5 as of today.

[Rich Davis]

Fire.

[Iowa Sam]

Padres.

[Dan Byer]

Padres, 9 and 2.

[Rich Davis]

Rich in San Antonio.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, my God.

[Rich Davis]

Who knows? Red Sox.

[Dan Byer]

Red Sox are there. 6 and 5.

[Rich Davis]

Nice. Back to Covino.

[Nate Thompson]

The Mets.

[Dan Byer]

Mets are 7, 3 and rich.

[Steve Covino]

Let's go to the Giants.

[Dan Byer]

Giants, 8 and 2.

[Rich Davis]

Fire.

[Iowa Sam]

Angels.

[Dan Byer]

Angels, 6 and 3.

[Rich Davis]

Rich in San Antonio.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Ace.

[Josh Kroenke]

I don't know.

[Nate Thompson]

Sorry.

[Iowa Sam]

The A's.

[Rich Davis]

Colvino, Cleveland, two. No, between Rich and Byer.

[Steve Covino]

Rich. Philadelphia Phillies.

[Dan Byer]

Phillies, seven and two.

[Rich Davis]

Buyer.

[Iowa Sam]

Tigers.

[Dan Byer]

Tigers, seven and four.

[Rich Davis]

Nice bowl, Rich.

[Steve Covino]

Cubbies brain curse.

[Dan Byer]

You're not.

[Nate Thompson]

You're out.

[Iowa Sam]

I love his energy, though.

[Dan Byer]

Cubs are 8 and 5 for you.

[Rich Davis]

I'll always say Rich in San Antonio.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, you're good, though.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Rich Davis]

Okay.

[Steve Covino]

It's all right.

[Rich Davis]

Fire.

[Iowa Sam]

Rangers, 8 and 3.

[Steve Covino]

Rich, we're running out of teams here.

[Dan Byer]

There's one more.

[Rich Davis]

Three, two, one.

[Steve Covino]

Orioles.

[Nate Thompson]

Nope.

[Rich Davis]

No. Buyer's the last one standing in that category.

[Iowa Sam]

I was going to say Cardinals.

[Dan Byer]

Nah, Blue Jays.

[Iowa Sam]

Oh, yeah.

[Rich Davis]

I got different birds.

[Steve Covino]

There's a bird. It counts.

[Nate Thompson]

Orioles. Two beautiful birds. Right.

[Rich Davis]

So, Buyer on the board. As we move to the second category, recession proof. You have five seconds to name a professional sports team who, according to Forbes top 20 list, which was released at the end of last year, is one of the most valuable sports teams. One of the most valuable sports teams. We'll take the top 20 from Forbes. And, Rich, in San Antonio, you're going to be first as soon as the clock goes. Now.

[Steve Covino]

Dallas Cowboys.

[Dan Byer]

Yes. Number one.

[Rich Davis]

Good job.

[Iowa Sam]

Can I just ask for Claire? Is this like us? Did you say us or is this world?

[Rich Davis]

It's worldwide.

[Iowa Sam]

Okay.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, wow.

[Iowa Sam]

All right. Yankees.

[Steve Covino]

Yankees.

[Rich Davis]

Yep. Number four in Covina. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Rich. Are Rich.

[Steve Covino]

Not me. Manchester United.

[Dan Byer]

Manchester United. Number 14.

[Rich Davis]

Good one. Covino.

[Nate Thompson]

Lakers.

[Dan Byer]

The Lakers.

[Rich Davis]

Number eight, rich in San Antonio.

[Steve Covino]

Houston Astros.

[Dan Byer]

No, no, sorry.

[Iowa Sam]

Dodgers.

[Dan Byer]

Dodgers are not on the list, Rich.

[Steve Covino]

Me?

[Rich Davis]

Yes, sir.

[Steve Covino]

I'm gonna go three. Barcelona.

[Dan Byer]

Yes. Number 20. Right at the bottom of the list.

[Steve Covino]

I feel like you're just making this up.

[Rich Davis]

Covino.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Barcelona.

[Nate Thompson]

Richest. Mets.

[Dan Byer]

Barcelona. The New York Mets. Not on the list.

[Steve Covino]

I won with Barth. Golden State, Warriors, Mavericks. A lot of NBA teams, right?

[Dan Byer]

So Cowboys 1, Warriors 2. The Rams 3.

[Nate Thompson]

I wouldn't have got that.

[Dan Byer]

Knicks 5, Patriots 6. So, yeah, there's a.

[Nate Thompson]

There's a ton of ton. You didn't get Chelsea.

[Dan Byer]

Are they on there? Chelsea is not on the list, but.

[Steve Covino]

You know what is? Barcelona.

[Dan Byer]

Barcelona.

[Rich Davis]

All right, so Beyer and Rich are. Rich. Both on the board. We go to the third category. Sudden impact. You have five seconds to name an NFL team who holds a top 20 draft pick come April 24th in Green Bay. Top 20. And Covino, you're going to be up first. Now.

[Nate Thompson]

Jaguars.

[Dan Byer]

Jaguars. Yes. Number five, go to Rich. Tsunami.

[Steve Covino]

Tennessee Titans.

[Dan Byer]

The Titans, number one.

[Rich Davis]

Fire.

[Iowa Sam]

Browns.

[Dan Byer]

Browns. Number two.

[Rich Davis]

Rich in San Antonio.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, man, you took all my answers.

[Rich Davis]

Three, two, one.

[Steve Covino]

Come on.

[Dan Byer]

What did he say?

[Steve Covino]

He said Bengals.

[Dan Byer]

Bengals. Number 17.

[Steve Covino]

Ah, there you go.

[Rich Davis]

All right, we'll give that to you.

[Nate Thompson]

Covino, the Giants.

[Dan Byer]

Giants. Number three. Number three.

[Rich Davis]

Of course, all the Sanders speculation, even though they have a quarterback. Heavy room.

[Steve Covino]

Now, Rich, the Jets.

[Dan Byer]

Jets, Number seven.

[Rich Davis]

Buyer.

[Iowa Sam]

Kenny's Raiders.

[Dan Byer]

Raiders are number six.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go, Genty. All right. Rich in San Antonio.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, the.

[Dan Byer]

I love his passion.

[Rich Davis]

Three, two, one.

[Steve Covino]

Stay with you. I can't even think of anything.

[Rich Davis]

Outta here. All right. Covino.

[Nate Thompson]

Panthers.

[Dan Byer]

Panthers are number eight.

[Steve Covino]

Rich, the Nolan. Saints.

[Dan Byer]

Saints are number nine.

[Rich Davis]

Beyer.

[Iowa Sam]

Dub. Bears.

[Rich Davis]

Dub.

[Dan Byer]

Bears. Number 10.

[Rich Davis]

Covin.

[Nate Thompson]

Colts.

[Dan Byer]

Colts. Number 14.

[Iowa Sam]

Colts.

[Steve Covino]

Colts.

[Rich Davis]

Rich.

[Nate Thompson]

Colts.

[Steve Covino]

The 49ers.

[Dan Byer]

Danny. 49ers.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes.

[Dan Byer]

Number 11.

[Rich Davis]

Beyer.

[Iowa Sam]

Falcons.

[Dan Byer]

Falcons are number 15.

[Rich Davis]

Covina. Three, two, one.

[Nate Thompson]

The Vikings.

[Dan Byer]

Vikings. Nonetheless.

[Rich Davis]

Out of there. Rich can't think of anything.

[Steve Covino]

The Arizona Cardinals.

[Dan Byer]

Cardinals. Number 16.

[Rich Davis]

Buyer.

[Iowa Sam]

Seahawks.

[Dan Byer]

Seahawks. Number 18.

[Rich Davis]

Back to Rich. Three, two, one.

[Steve Covino]

The Chargers.

[Dan Byer]

Chargers. Is that your final answer?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

Nope, not on the list.

[Iowa Sam]

Rams.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

Rams. No, Rams are not on either.

[Nate Thompson]

Wow.

[Dan Byer]

The ones left were the Broncos at 20, Bucks at 19, Cowboys, no one said at 12, Dolphins at 13. And Pat's at number four.

[Steve Covino]

No one said Pat. I thought. Damn. Buyer said Pats.

[Dan Byer]

No, I didn't.

[Nate Thompson]

No, that's it. You're thinking backwards and you're trying to fill in the blanks. It's a challenging game. Great job.

[Rich Davis]

Buyer with his 27th victory.

[Steve Covino]

One more. You beat the Yankees.

[Nate Thompson]

Stressful, man.

[Rich Davis]

And Rich in San Antonio. Thank you for playing the game. It's up to DB Whether or not he wants to mail that off to Texas.

[Iowa Sam]

Absolutely, 100%.

[Rich Davis]

All right. So Rich, we're gonna still send you a Swiggy even though you stunk at the game.

[Steve Covino]

You know, we're gonna, we're gonna label it, we're gonna label, label here. Swiggy participation. Swiggy participation.

[Nate Thompson]

Swiggy. Hey, thank you, man. Have a great one. Later.

[Steve Covino]

But let's go to DB for an update. Dan Buyer, what's doing, man?

[Iowa Sam]

That was, that was interesting because it wasn't just non playoff teams. There were a couple, you know, the Broncos made it right at that cutoff line. So anyway, speaking of Denver, the Nuggets making the news today as they fired head coach Mike Malone and general manager Calvin Booth. Josh Kroenke, who's the vice chair of Kroenke Sports Entertainment, the group that owns the Denver Nuggets, had this to say about the changes.

[Josh Kroenke]

We went on an eight game win streak right before the All Star break, you know, but since then I think we're 11 and 13. We've lost our last four and we're trending towards a direction that I thought would probably be a very near end to our season in the near future.

[Iowa Sam]

To Cronky's Point. They're in the fourth spot in the west, but just a half game separates them and the eight spot in the West. With those final three games remaining, Nuggets letting go of Michael Malone, who's their all time winning as head coach and Calvin Booth also out as general manager. Florida finished number one in the final AP Top 25 Men's College Hoops Poll of the season. Houston finished second, followed by Duke at three, Auburn for Tennessee at five. Multiple reports station or Sanders will have a top 30 visit with the Pittsburgh Steelers coming up on Thursday. Guys, we got a scoreless game in Cleveland. Bottom of the ninth inning between the White Sox and Guardians. However, Cleveland's got the bases loaded with no one out and it looks like it just has ended.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe not. Foul ball. Foul ball.

[Iowa Sam]

Walk off.

[Nate Thompson]

Grand SL just real close.

[Iowa Sam]

The Riches Mets lead the Marlins 95 in the seventh. Could have been much more met at bases loaded, but a diving catch by a Marlins outfielder.

[Steve Covino]

It was an amazing catch.

[Iowa Sam]

The would have put three home, maybe even four if he doesn't catch it all the way around. But the Mets still hold the 95 lead. Cavino's Yankees fell to the Tigers today. 5 Nothing. Some sad news to pass along. Former base MLB closer Octavio Dotel died on his way to the hospital after he was Pulled from the rubble following the collaps of a nightclub ceiling in the Dominican Republic. Hotel was 51 years old. Rory McElroy tees in the first round of the Masters Thursday at 1:12 Eastern Time. Champion defending champion Scotty Scheffler at 10:15 Eastern Time Thursday morning. And the Guardians did walk it off. 1 Nothing win over the White Sox. Guys, back to you.

[Nate Thompson]

Thank you.

[Steve Covino]

With a walk off walk.

[Nate Thompson]

A walk off walk.

[Steve Covino]

The grand slam would have been more fun.

[Nate Thompson]

The Guardians win.

[Iowa Sam]

Wait a second.

[Steve Covino]

Good eye.

[Nate Thompson]

How many wins do they have? Maybe I was right in. Last one doesn't count.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, anyway, rest in peace, Octavio. Sh. Do tell.

[Steve Covino]

The coolest nicknames.

[Nate Thompson]

One of the coolest nicknames. And horrible footage. If you guys haven't seen it, it's out there. The roof collapsing at that nightclub. And he was part of it. He was one of last. I saw like 18 people died. So really sad story.

[Rich Davis]

A. Covino. That's the Guardian's fourth one.

[Nate Thompson]

Ah, man, really? Wow.

[Steve Covino]

Guardians not getting off to a great start. But hey, nice win. We got more Covino on ritual. MBS playoffs a week away and of course any football news will. We'll keep an eye on more CNR next right here on FOX Sports Radio.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Steve Covino]

Well, yeah, you and I have been talking about the jeans, the pants, the shorts say goodbye to stiff, boxy, uncomfortable pants and hello to comfort. Honestly, I got those featherweight jeans. I just ordered another pair. I got the indigo ones, like the lighter denim because the dark. I had the dark denim.

[Nate Thompson]

You got those featherweight jeans.

[Steve Covino]

But that cruiserweight gut, though, so you shut your mouth.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Nate Thompson]

Oh, congrats again to the Florida Gators. And congrats to Rich for again crying for the 10th consecutive year when this song is played.

[Steve Covino]

Wait here. When he hits the high note.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, that's what I play for you.

[Steve Covino]

I want to.

[Nate Thompson]

I was.

[Rich Davis]

That was the moment of the song.

[Steve Covino]

The one shining moment. Moment.

[Nate Thompson]

It would be 20 consecutive years, but one year he missed it.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. During COVID Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

So there you have it. Congrats again and props to Luther. We're Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio Iowa. Sam on the ones and twos. Danny G. Super producing. Getting that podcast ready for you. Remember to search, rate and review. Follow rate and review. Covino and Rich.

[Steve Covino]

Not only is Danny G. Super producing.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

He keeps staring at the photo of Geno Smith at the Raiders facility. Staring at the picture of John Madden like he's all inspired.

[Rich Davis]

That's a pretty cool photo.

[Steve Covino]

Geno Smith went to Tom Brady's house, so.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Kavino even said Geno Smith looks cooler as a Raider.

[Nate Thompson]

He does. He does. It's even more weird because we're staring at Danny staring at Geno staring at Madden.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Steve Covino]

And thank you. You could stream the show live. Fox Sports Radio on the new and improved iHeart app. Just search Fox Sports Radio. Make us your preset.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, buddy, it's.

[Rich Davis]

At least you could number one preset be a P1.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. I don't want to be your number two, though. Sometimes the number two is better than a number one.

[Nate Thompson]

Sometimes.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, Fox Sports Radio, Kavino and Rich, lock and load now. We're watching the Pirates Cardinals game in the background here. Bottom of the first inning, scoreless. Just watching Skeen's deal on the first inning. That guy stuff is electric. As Kavino pointed out, his personality might not be, but his stuff's electric. And I agree with Spot.

[Nate Thompson]

My wet sock has more personality than.

[Steve Covino]

I Was it you or Spock me know that said, yo, he just looks way cooler with a beard.

[Dan Byer]

Oh, I did.

[Steve Covino]

I mean the mustache. I get it. People love the Mustachio, but he looks just like a cooler grown up.

[Nate Thompson]

You know what it is when you throw 110mph and Livy Dunn is by your side? You don't need a personality. You just need a fastball and a little.

[Steve Covino]

And a little scruff and a sweet cutter too.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, you see, you're talking about this.

[Steve Covino]

Oh yeah.

[Dan Byer]

Don't put this back in my head.

[Steve Covino]

Sam Young guy remarks. It's pretty catchy.

[Nate Thompson]

He looks older and better with the beard, but my goodness, I know baseball isn't a personality contest, but if it was, he'd be in last place.

[Steve Covino]

Well, if winning a Cy Young mattered, which it does. My vote's still on him.

[Nate Thompson]

That's all that matters.

[Steve Covino]

I just watched him. I mean, I know the Cardinals aren't the most dynamic lineup, but he just like fast curveball, fastball, strikeout, weak ground ball, fastball, curveball.

[Nate Thompson]

He's dealing like dominant.

[Steve Covino]

Like when. When you see a true ace, which we talked about. There's not a ton recently in major league baseball. A ton of stars, but there's not a ton of aces. Zach Wheeler, you know, there's a few scuba who shut down your Yanks today. There's a few. But for the most part you're not seeing the aces like we did in other generations. It's a hitters game right now. But that's what makes Paul Schein stand.

[Nate Thompson]

Out more to me with the torpedo bats. I know conversation has slowed down a little bit on that, but that's an old story now. It is helping. Yeah. You know, given a little bit of an advantage to the batters. So again, enjoy your baseball. Thank you guys for hanging out with us today. Want to remind you about tomorrow. Tomorrow's the hump day already. We're going to turn your hump day into a hump night. And we do that with midweek Major. The biggest stories in the world of sports and pop culture are they mid week or major? We do it every Wednesday.

[Dan Byer]

That's a lot of pressure on me.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, I know freaking delivered tomorrow, but yeah, you know what, A couple things we may not have got to today. Well, we always get to it the next day. A lot of fun. And of course baseball. Not only is baseball full effect and we're enjoying that one week from today the play in game starts. So we got one week left of the NBA season. Then the playoffs. So let's get ready. See you guys later. Until then, Arrivederche, baby.

[Nate Thompson]

We will see you in the promised land. Goodbye. Have a great night, guys.

[Steve Covino]

Good day.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Julie Swearbinks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Swearbinks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Swearbinks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Swearbinks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeremy Scott]

Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.

[Nate Thompson]

Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.

[Jeremy Scott]

I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

[Nate Thompson]

At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

[Jeremy Scott]

Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.