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Matt Hasselbeck
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Mike McCarthy
Now let's get this party started.
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Jason McIntyre
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Here we go. It's hour two in a Monday. Live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. If you're just tuning in, Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys have agreed to part ways. It came down to years, not money. Meaning Jerry said. Jerry and Mike came to terms with Money. But Mike McCarthy has a new agent, Don Yee, who I know a little bit. Highly respected, highly cerebral, knows how to market his guys. He had Brady for years. He may still have Tom. I think he told McCarthy, ask for the moon. You're the best coaching candidate out there now that Vrabel signed. In fact, you got a ring and Mike Vrabel doesn't as a head coach. And I think the Cowboys, Jerry didn't want to pay him for five years. And McCarthy smartly said, I'm looking at my roster in Philadelphia's. I'm not signing a three or four year deal. This is a rebuild and if you're the GM, Jerry I want five years and Jerry didn't want it. Mike McCarthy wins. All right. We do it on Mondays. Colin was right. Colin was wrong. Here we go.
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Jason McIntyre
Where Colin was right.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I picked the Washington Commanders as my surprise playoff team in the NFL. I didn't know if they'd win a game but they did. I love Dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsberry, Jaden Daniels. I thought it worked. And I thought their division had a couple of teams in the Giants, in Dallas with weak rosters. I said Friday, I don't think they're as good as Tampa. I don't think they'll win. But if they do, it's because of singularly Jaden Daniels. And that's exactly what happened.
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Jason McIntyre
Where Colin was wrong.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I got a little too high on Jordan Love. J. Mac scolded me the entire season. But you know what I thought after that Green Bay Dallas performance, I thought, this guy is going to be great. And it was a roller coaster year. Three picks against Philly. I was told out of college by a gm. I trust that he thought he was a little loose and he wasn't sure you could coach that out of him. But if you count the playoff game in Philly, he ended up with 14 picks and the 19th highest passer rating in the NFL. I think he needs an off season with Matt LaFleur to clean it up. I still like him a lot, but I was a little too high on him.
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Jason McIntyre
Where Colin was right.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Mike Vrabel to the Patriots. I said Friday, Vrabel's the best candidate. Patriots the best job. This is an easy one. People always say you can't go home again, but this is the only opening where you get two things that are necessary and they get both. A stable owner with championship pedigree and a young quarterback on a rookie deal that shows great promise. Now, I mean, I guess you could say Washington, but we didn't know much about the new owner. We know Robert Kraft. This makes a lot of sense. I think he's going to win. In fact, I think New England next year. You think I'm crazy. I think they'll battle for a playoff spot, a wild card playoff spot. You can always get better on the perimeter faster than you can on the lines. You can go get corners, you can go get wide receivers in the draft. This is the best running back draft in a decade and there's tons of receivers. I think he's a culture builder.
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Jason McIntyre
I think it's perfect where Colin was wrong.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Justin Herbert, listen, you know I love him, but that was a stinker. Now, former Charger Dan Fouts had his worst game as a pro in the playoffs. But if you take out one pass to lad McConkey, they didn't do anything. And I love him, but he was off in two playoff starts. I've got to be honest, he has a passer rating of 60 and has completed only 52% of his throws. I still think he's great. But you know what? Your legacy gets cemented and regresses in the playoffs and he needs a really great playoff performance. Two trips, two ugly ones.
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Jason McIntyre
Where Colin was right, Ohio State.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I picked them to be in the national championship before the year. I said they would lose at Austin and beat Oregon the next time. And I also said even after they beat Michigan, I still think they're one of the top two teams in the country. I think they're going to beat Notre Dame and I like Notre Dame a lot. But Ryan Day and Chip Kelly, that Michigan loss was jet fuel. They are playing tremendous football. Will Howard, after a bad Michigan game is on it. I don't. I mean, listen, their O line isn't all time stuff and the Buckeyes usually have great O lines. But running back receiver Will Howard coaching, there's. There's nothing not to like here. And it just proves rivalries are great. But Nick Saban won a Natty one year after losing to Auburn.
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Unknown Speaker
It.
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Matt Hasselbeck
It come in Ohio State. You got to move past the Michigan game sometimes. This team, the Michigan loss actually was.
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Jason McIntyre
A catalyst for this performance where Collin was wrong.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, I had the Longhorns winning the national championship and they lost twice to Georgia, once to Ohio State and they should have lost Arizona State. Situationally, and I think Sark's a very good coach, but boy, situationally, they made some calls. I did not love running outside on that goal line play was not. Didn't work for me. I think they got the most out of Quinn Ewers. I think he is what he is. Arch Manning will start this point forward, but watching that game, I never felt Texas was as good as Ohio State. And maybe it just comes down to personnel, but I had them winning the.
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Jason McIntyre
Natty and I'm wrong where Colin was right.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I've been saying this now for several years. I like Mike Tomlin and he's great as an underdog coach. But when they lose effort, you're in trouble because offensively he can't figure out offensive lines. Their offensive lines, awful again. Seven straight year they can't establish a run game and again they'll lead the NFL in defensive spending. I think he's a good football coach, but I think even good football coaches sometimes need a fresh start. And again, I would hire Mike Tomlin. I mean, if the Cowboys called Now that McCarthy's leaving, I'd hire Mike Tomlin. I think he's a good coach. I think the Pittsburgh thing, I Think they need to reboot. And I think Mike Tomlin does too.
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Jason McIntyre
Where Colin was right.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Lamar Jackson won his third playoff game. Listen, I know, I know, but he can't beat Kansas City. And nobody could beat Tiger woods in his prime or Michael Jordan when he got to the finals. Sometimes winning in the playoffs against the greatest quarterback playing in the sport is really hard. But I think Lamar, once again, 132 passer rating, two TDs, no picks without Zay Flowers. I mean, they, they knew. Everybody in the ballpark knows they don't have, they don't have a receiver. It's Mark Edwards, Derrick Henry, and Lamar didn't matter. Poised, great. We got to stop the Lamar Jackson stuff. Yeah, he struggles against Kansas City. The world struggled against mj. Like, Phil Mickelson's an all timer, couldn't beat Tiger much. I still think Lamar Jackson is really, really special. Colin right, Colin wrong. And with that, 18 years in the NFL, three Pro Bowl, Super Bowls as well. Matt Hasselbeck, let's first address Mike McCarthy. You know, generally in this sport, players occasionally have leverage. You guys do, occasionally. Coaches don't, almost never. GMs don't. I kind of feel like Mike McCarthy, after Vrabel signed, he and his agent went, you know, Jerry, we want five years guaranteed. It feels like. And I don't. I think Mike's a good coach, man. What do you make of it? And what do you make of Mike?
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Mike McCarthy
Yeah, there's no doubt. I think, I think he's a great coach. You know, this is kind of one of those things in negotiating. It feels like Mike McCarthy is just kind of betting on himself. You know, he looks out there, he realizes what he is as a coach and what his resume is. And then also I think probably most importantly, his resume working with quarterbacks. His first ever quarterback coaching job in the NFL was with the Kansas City Chiefs coaching Joe Montana. And it started with Joe Montana and it runs right through. Look it up. It's pretty impressive. Brett Favreau, Aaron Rodgers. And so like, I think if you think about the jobs that are out there and the quarterback help that needs to happen, Mike McCarthy is the perfect guy. And I think when it comes to these negotiations as well, he's not just thinking about himself, he's thinking about the job security of his entire staff. And that's probably where he kind of bowed up for his staff and said, hey, you know, we want more. We want more commitment than you're offering for the rest of the guys here. And I think the coaching staff appreciates that as well. And I think you'll get a lot of the best coaches to come with him.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, that's really interesting. I said that last week. Matt and I may be off my rocker, but I said the public loves two kind of coaches, the hip young ones, you know, Sean McVeigh, Mike McDaniel, the cool guys. And they like the old alphas. They like Vrabel and Dan Campbell. And I'm like, he's not really either. He's just a really good coach among players. How is he viewed? Like. Like, what's his little secret sauce? Because he wins with everybody, including Cooper Rush.
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Mike McCarthy
Yeah, listen, he was my quarterback coach early in Green Bay when Ray Rhodes was the head coach, actually. And it was kind of miserable to have him as a position coach because he worked us so hard, you know, so, like, I mean, that. I guess it's a compliment. Like, it was tough, but he was a great teacher and I think he was a great developer. Like, he developed the roster. Brett Favre was the starting quarterback, but he was developing me, some kid off the practice squad. The year before, he was developing Aaron Brooks, a late round pick that later became his starting quarterback when he was the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. So, you know, teacher developer. Those are all things you're looking for in a coach. And then I think at some, at some level, you have to be able to, you know, push a guy and inspire a team or the guys that you're with to think bigger than they're actually thinking for themselves. I know he did that for me personally. And so just take that as a position coach, as a coordinator, and just move it up to the head coach. That's really what you are doing for the team when you talk to the team. And then I think one of the most underrated parts of being the head coach, yes, game management, that's important. Everybody knows about that. But handling the bullets at the podium, at the press conference, when adversity strikes, when there's drama around your team, being the guy that takes the blame, being the guy that deflects the credit, he's got a lot of experience at the podium that way. Some head coaches, they can coach, but they can't handle the podium. And for that reason, I think you've got a proven commodity in Mike and Mike McCarthy here.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Okay, I know you love your Eagles, but they've got Jalen Hurt, Saquon Barkley, the best O line, two good receivers, Dallas Goddard, and they were 2 for 11 on third down. I watched them.
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Mike McCarthy
Yeah, it was bad I mean, when.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You watch it, is it fair to say they're really led by Saquon Barkley, not the quarterback? That's kind of what I feel like.
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Mike McCarthy
You know, I just think they're a team, you know, I really think they're a team. And I think the unselfishness of Saquon Barkley is, is like you need more guys to have that mindset. Listen, I've been on this team this entire year. I like this team. I like the quarterback. The quarterback did not play well. I mean, you could pretend like he, he played great. He didn't. But I would just say this, having been a quarterback who's come out of concussion protocol, it's one thing to pass concussion protocol. It's a whole nother thing to feel like you are really, absolutely, 100% yourself. And so like, I saw a guy that was maybe a little tentative, maybe a little bit slower than normal, maybe just didn't have that same. Like something just felt off to me. So if I'm just speaking anecdotally for myself or what it was like for me coming out of those situations, you know, that first game back usually wasn't my best. And, you know, maybe this next week he'll feel more like himself, he'll look more like himself, and the Eagles are going to need him to be that way to, to get the win because it's going to take more than what they had offensively in the passing game this week.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I don't. I said, if you look at the history of the NFL and you talk all time stuff, and I'm, I'm talking Favre, Payton, Mahomes, I mean, like all time stuff. You could argue there's been 15 or 16 of those quarterbacks that are just different. I don't know how Jaden Daniels as a rookie is this good late in games. Is it cognitive? Is it intuitive? Is it just innate? Matt, he looks calmer. This is very Mahomes. Remember Mahomes first couple years? We were like, you could never tell what the score was. He was as good trailing as he was leading. And it was just like, it almost like he just kind of privately shifted a gear and was more accurate in crisis. I don't even know what to make of Jaden Daniels. I mean, what do you see?
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Mike McCarthy
Yeah, he's unfazed and he's really unbelievable. Like in the pressure moments, not only does his team believe in him, does everyone at home believe, like, yeah, he's going to get it done. I really believe the opponent thinks like, oh, Here we go again. You know, we gave him too much time. The ball's in his hands, and that's as a runner or as a thrower. And you know, some of those great quarterbacks you mentioned, Mahomes, like, I'm as big a Mahomes fan as you could possibly be. But, like, he's got that emotional, like, roller coaster. He gets, you know, gets into it with officials and he's yelling and, you know, I feel like Andy Reid's got to put his hands on his shoulders sometimes and be like, hey, calm down. Take a deep breath.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Mike McCarthy
And, you know, like, that's great. You can be that way. Jaden doesn't seem that way. Like, up, down, high, low, game winner. Just kind of like, he's just cool. He's just medium, as they say. And, and that's fine. Like, I just, I think to me, to me, I talk about it like all the time. The quarterback position, when you get that right, it could. You're. You now are amazing. Marinara sauce over yesterday's pasta. You cover up for all. Bad play call, medium talent, missed block up front. Wide receiver didn't run a great route. It's all of a sudden a perfect throw. Like, he is that guy. He is everything you're looking for in a quarterback that way. So. So look out. I mean, you want to talk about a guy that can pull off an upset, Jaden Daniels is your guy.
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Matt Hasselbeck
So I gotta ask you, I know it's a. It's a week off, but Baltimore without Zay Flowers. Wow, Buffalo. This is the most complete, I would argue, outside of Detroit and Philly and maybe along with them, James Cook, two tight ends, three receiver. You forget Amari Cooper's on the team. A great left tackle, Josh Allen. I don't know, I. I think Buffalo is the best team I've seen in the afc. What do you expect in that game?
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Mike McCarthy
Listen, I like Buffalo. I love their quarterback. I love the coach. I love a lot about what they're doing offensively. I don't like this matchup. I mean, the only good thing I can say, really, is that this, this time around, this game's in Buffalo. But if you go back and watch that game, September 29th, Buffalo goes to Baltimore. I mean, that was a beat down. I mean, it wasn't even really competitive. And so like, matchup wise, you know, I just really think that they're going to have their hands full with the running game. You know, we're going to talk about Derek Henry, talk about Lamar. I just, I just think Todd Monkin in Baltimore. They're rolling right now. A lot of times you'll hear coaches say this, hey, let's just get into the tournament and let's play our best football at the right, at the right time. I think that's what's happening for Baltimore right now. So quite honestly, this might be, you know, the super bowl may happen few weeks, whatever. This might be the best game though. This might be the best game of the entire playoff. Two of the top quarterbacks. I just think that run game is going to be a real problem for, for, for Buffalo. They have to have a different game plan than they had the first time around.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, Derek Henry's the opposite of most great backs. He wasn't great early his career, but he's better as an old running back. Usually running backs have like six years of great and then they tail off. I don't know what he. I mean, it's, it's some vitamin program, but it is.
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Mike McCarthy
Well, it fits, it fits together because you have to, you have to decide, are we going to honor the naked bootleg, are we going to honor the zone read of the quarterback or are we going to commit an extra guy to Derek Henry and if one guy misses, he's out the gate. And Todd Monkin's done a great job of having naked bootlegs and plays off of it. Direct SN eye candy smoke and mirrors to the quarterback running a jet sweep. I mean, it all fits together right now and it's just headaches. You can't play your normal NFL style defense against this offense.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Wow. Finally I look, I look at over the landscape and almost every quarterback outside of Jared Goff that is winning in this league moves. They all move. Mahomes moves, Hertz moves, Jaden moves. It's. I look at this pocket thing and I think, well, Brady won a bunch and Goff does have a great O line. But I'm watching Jaden last night and I'm thinking to myself, is the pocket. I know you got to throw from the pocket, but it felt like all weekend the mobility was a huge factor on third down for these teams. Do you feel like as a pocket you could move but as a pocket guy that the game's just changed and you have to move to win the ring?
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Mike McCarthy
I would agree with you. I think the movement, the quarterback movement was a major factor this weekend. Big plays, third down, fourth down, especially fourth down this week. I thought that was a real factor. I would just say this though. I've heard that conversation for years and years and Years. And I heard it all throughout the playoffs, and you saw a lot of it. And at the end of the year, it was a guy like Tom Brady or Nick Foles or somebody else, you know, having the great year. Matt Ryan had an MVP year. And so I don't think there's one way to skin a cat that way. I think quarterback movement keeps defensive coordinators up at night. You say, who would you rather defend? They don't want to defend a guy that can move around. But at the end of the day, it's the consistent delivering the ball on time on the proper shoulder to convert third downs to win in the red area. I think that's. That's probably the thing that's been true over time, but there's. There's no doubt the creativity from the college game with these quarterbacks that can move, and then the scramble drills. If you ask any D coordinator, they want none of that.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Finally, Jimmie Johnson yesterday suggested McCarthy to Pittsburgh, Tomlin to Dallas. What do you make of that? It sounds fun.
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Mike McCarthy
It's genius. I mean, that'd be super fun. There's nobody more Pittsburgh that I've ever met than Mike McCarthy. I mean, that dude loves Pittsburgh. But I just, you know, I think Mike Tomlin's an awesome coach. I think that the talks of getting rid of Mike Tomlin are kind of ridiculous. The only way I think that that could work is if. If Mike Tomlin wanted one of the change of scenery. For some reason, I think he's a great coach. Changes need to be. Need change need to happen, though. Like the effort and the pursuit that I saw defensively from. From Pittsburgh yesterday. At times it looked like a Pro bowl defense. Like, you know, just tagging off, standing around the pile. I just didn't recognize it. Having gone against that team for. For many, many years, their defense was just always relentless, always tough, physical, flying around to the ball. You know, like, I used this quote before on defense. Your love for your teammate and for what we're doing can be measured by. You are to the ball when the whistle blows. And, you know, so I think that's got to get fixed. I think if Mike Tomlin wants to stay, he's earned the right to be the guy to fix it.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Matt Hasselbeck, 18 years in the NFL. Love having you on on a Monday. Thanks, buddy.
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Mike McCarthy
All right. See you calling.
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Colin Cowherd
All right.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Of all the players that come on and have rooms behind them, that's my favorite room. Even his room looks organized behind him. Mike McCarthy is available on the market if I'm Chicago, I would offer him the job today. If I was the Chicago Bears, I'd offer him the job today. If I was the Pittsburgh Steelers, who can't get their run game or O line right, I would offer Mike McCarthy the Steelers job today. Dallas, I think I look at Dallas and I think they don't have the personnel to match up with teams. So I may go Ben Johnson. I'm going to need somebody that can innovate beyond my personnel. That's not really. McCarthy's good, but I think Dallas may need an innovator. I mean, he can go to Dallas, but Dallas's personnel and we've been on this all year. I don't like their roster.
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Unknown Speaker
Don't love it. Let me back up for a sec. Do the Bears need to wait to see what happens with Tomlin? Because I got to be honest, I didn't. I thought the smoke was I would.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Take McCarthy over Tomlin.
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Unknown Speaker
What?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Because I've got. Listen, Tomlin can't figure out the Steelers O line. Job one in Chicago is. Fits that O line. It's been terrible for seven years.
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Unknown Speaker
Job or the GM?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, Mike, Andy Reid and Sean McVay. I've watched them fix an offensive line in a.
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Unknown Speaker
Has a great gm. Come on, he's one of the best in the league.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, I'm just.
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Unknown Speaker
By the way, we got to stop comparing people to the Chiefs all weekend. People. Oh, well, Justin Herbert threw four picks. He stinks. He's. He's not Patrick Mahomes yet. No bleep Sherlock. We know that. Let's stop comparing teams to the cheeks. Everything lined up.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Here's what the Bears haven't had a lot of super bowl winning coaches who get the most out of quarterbacks. They don't do that very often. Have they had tough defensive guys? Dave wants that. Yeah, they've had defensive guys. And I don't think that Bears job is just about maximizing Caleb.
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Colin Cowherd
It.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You know my rule in this game. Number one is get your quarterback. Chicago has it. Number two is protect your quarterback. Their old lines, an insurance policy. And the Bears online regressed significantly this year.
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Unknown Speaker
So, okay, Tomlin's not on the market, but if something crazy and dumb happens. So all things being equal, Bears or Cowboys, who has a better roster?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Oh, Bears.
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Unknown Speaker
Bears. Okay.
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Matt Hasselbeck
No question.
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Unknown Speaker
Do the Bears need. I know you said offensive line, but don't they need a culture? This is 20 years. I don't know what the Chicago Bears are. They don't have an identity and haven't for the longest time. Mike, Tomlin brings.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Okay, but Mike Tomlin, we know his record. He's strong. He has. He is tone deaf to offense.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. When you got Mason Rudolph and Russell.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Wilson off the side his last five years with Big Ben, no playoffs, he.
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Unknown Speaker
Was kind of washed. He was always out of shape and.
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Matt Hasselbeck
He was in his last two years and they were a bottom 10 offense in Big Ben's last three years. You got to fix that quarterback, McCarthy, huh?
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Unknown Speaker
Over Tomlin.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, that's. You don't have to love Mike McCarthy, but here's what Mike McCarthy has done. He has worked with Cooper Rush, Dak Favre, Joe Montana, everybody. Aaron Rodgers and Prickly. He's had different personalities, different styles with quarterbacks. He's worked with all of them. And I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence. He has the most meddling owner and no owner in Green Bay, and he worked with both. So he has owner sort of bandwidth.
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Unknown Speaker
Tell your boy Wes to put that on a poll. Who would you rather have in Chicago, Mike Tomlin or McCarthy? I think that's.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, but Tomlin's got that alpha thing and fans love in Chicago.
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Unknown Speaker
I mean, in a heartbeat. And no disrespect, I like McCarthy. I think I would take it with the Jets.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, the Chicago would probably hire Tomlin because they're still celebrating the 85 bears. No, I'm not joking. Like, it's like everybody got a restaurant and a car dealership deal. It's. They love defense in Chicago. The world. Look at your division. Kevin O'Connell, Matt LaFleur.
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Unknown Speaker
That's.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I mean, it's like you got to score points in this division. You got to score points. You're. Listen, it's just like if you're in a division with Mahomes or Josh Allen, that's. Bill Belichick was overwhelmed by Josh Allen. Belichick, he couldn't stop him. Bill Bel. Say what you want about quarterback. Belichick could not stop Josh Allen. Nobody's stopping Lamar Jackson consistently. You got to get that offense right, that O line. Right? Get your quarterback, protect your quarterback, and then draft guys who go get their quarterback. If you just stay on that, you can find running backs, receivers and corners.
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Mike McCarthy
Okay?
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Unknown Speaker
So real quick, I know we got to go to break jets. If McCarthy and Tomlin are both there, who should the jets go for? And again, Tomlin's not there.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I don't think McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers again.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, then Aaron Rod, remember, that was Ryan's idea.
- [28:26]
Matt Hasselbeck
I would go Rogers I would go with Tomlin with the Jets. He's a no nonsense with Aaron Rodgers. Tomlin with the jets is my choice. Tomlin with the Cowboys could be fine. He would McCarthy to the Bears or the Saints to me is the call.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Some thoughts on the Green Bay packers and a big change in the NFL that I love. But first, here's J. Mac with the news.
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Jason McIntyre
No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
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Unknown Speaker
I don't think people get how fired up you are today. Cowherd is really. He's got a lot of material. Let's see what he has to say about the Patriots hiring Mike vrabel as the 16th head coach in franchise history. Happened over the weekend and he returns to New England where he was an integral part of three super bowl championship teams playing there for eight seasons. I was wrong. I thought he was going to the Raiders, but nice job here by the Patriots to grab him. And Rabel talked about what makes the Patriots special.
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Mike McCarthy
The people, the history. And not that the banners that hang in our stadium, they're not going to help us win. But I think it's a great reminder of what it takes to win and the type of people that you have to have in the organization, the selflessness, the work and the sacrifice that you have to make. So to me, those are great reminders of what it takes.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I think they're a playoff team next year. I called the Commanders, I called the Rams last year, the Vikings the year before. Patriots make the playoffs. There's enough murky chaos in that division. Keep your eye. You can get better at wide receiver very quickly in this league.
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Unknown Speaker
Okay, I'll take a counter. I'll go opposite here. I'm seeing in the notes Josh McDaniels. A definite possibility for offensive coordinators.
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Matt Hasselbeck
He's pretty good at that.
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Unknown Speaker
It's almost like the Patriots are running their organization. Like, like, like the Lakers have, hey, we gotta hire a Lakers guy. We gotta do. We gotta keep it in house. Like, they're just. This is almost more of the same. They're like extending the Belichick legacy.
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Colin Cowherd
Like, okay, what do we do?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Is the best coach on the market based on what?
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Unknown Speaker
Like, I get it. He's high demand. Everybody wants him, okay, Based on what.
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Matt Hasselbeck
He got Ryan Tannehill. And go look at the quarterbacks in the AFC when he was getting Ryan Tannehill to the AFC championship and a number. Now he lost also to Joe Burrow. But he was a number one seed and they did not have a number one roster. I. First of all, at the end, when.
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Colin Cowherd
They let go of AJ Brown, the.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Minute they let go of AJ Brown, he was having trouble with people upstairs.
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Unknown Speaker
The gm.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah. And when they lost AJ Brown, Mike Vrabel just, you know, he knew. Everybody in the world knew, okay, it's over. That's all they had offensively, outside of Derrick Henry.
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Unknown Speaker
So I'm looking up his record here. Okay? Tennessee 54 and 45.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Two and three in the playoffs. Like, I mean, he's been a head coach six years. He had the one awesome season where they were the number one seed. He won the division.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Have you ever thought of the Titans as spectacularly run, brilliantly owned? I don't know.
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Unknown Speaker
No. So he had a nice word and I'm not poo pooing Rickle. I think he's good. But this idea that they're going to the playoffs.
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Matt Hasselbeck
He won 55% of his games with Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill.
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Unknown Speaker
Marcus Mariota was like the second pick in the draft.
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Matt Hasselbeck
And Will Levis. Oh, my bad. I gotta throw in Will Levis.
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Unknown Speaker
He didn't. Okay, we should make this interesting. Do you want.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, I'll do it right now.
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Unknown Speaker
Playoff team, next job.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Okay, I'll get you a big old bag of Rhode island oysters.
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Unknown Speaker
I do like oysters.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I'm. I'm. I think they're gonna be. You guys all left. Houston did it. Chargers did it.
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Colin Cowherd
Broncos did it.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Commanders did it. If Drake may, who you liked a lot, you would have taken him number.
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Unknown Speaker
I like Drake. May I? I was wrong.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I still like. No, but he's still good.
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Unknown Speaker
So who. Okay, let me.
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Matt Hasselbeck
By the way, they got money do this. They got money. How about T. Higgins to the Patriots?
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Unknown Speaker
Maybe that would. That would be good. Who. Who's coming out of the playoffs? Who's stepping down because you putting them in the playoffs?
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Matt Hasselbeck
I think the Chiefs are going to have a down year. How about this? How about this? I don't even want to answer that question.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, yeah, of course not.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I don't have an answer yet. How about Steelers?
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Unknown Speaker
Okay. Boom. You ace the test out.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Ryan whispered that in my ear. Thank you, Ryan, for the heads up. Ryan. That's the no. 1 guy in the show has my back. Not getting. Doing a lot more than hockey scores over there. Oh, boy.
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Unknown Speaker
Here we go. Next up is. What are we doing?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Oh.
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Unknown Speaker
This whole MVP stuff between Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. So both of them are battling for MVP now. They will face off off in the divisional round matchup on Sunday. Yeah, it's a night game. It's. It's great. I'm surprised. Look at that line, Colin. You seeing that?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Money coming in since the line opened. All on the Ravens on the road.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, here's the, here's the thing that is. That really makes you pause. Buffalo's gonna struggle with this run game.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I mean, the numbers, size defensively in the front.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, it's. I. This is not a great matchup. Now again, it's at the Bills and Josh Allen, like a Jaden Daniels can just be magical. I think this is a stay away game for me.
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Unknown Speaker
I have not bet this game.
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Matt Hasselbeck
No, no, no. To me, it's just like, folks, when you get two great organizations and two superstar quarterbacks, you can't predict it. Now, if Zay Flowers doesn't play, I don't love that, but I think they.
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Unknown Speaker
Look okay without him.
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Matt Hasselbeck
No, no, but again, that's Pittsburgh. And this. I. It's going to be hard for me to bet against Josh Allen at home.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Whoever wins this game, I'm totally happy. I do think Buffalo matches up better against the Chiefs.
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Unknown Speaker
There you go. That's what I was headed towards.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Buffalo matches up better with the Chiefs. They already beat him in week 11.
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Unknown Speaker
I did bet the other two games, but I'm leaning Bills here. But I don't have. I don't have a scent on this. I mean, it's going to be great. This is a great matchup. Whoever can beat the Chiefs, that's who I want to win. I'm. So the Chiefs are waxing the Texans. Okay, that's, that's, that's gonna be a bloodbath. Final story, Colin. Let's go to the Raiders. Now. We do have a Raiders fan on staff, so he's. He's upset about this. Deion Sanders is not going to be the next Raiders coach. According to multiple reports, prime has expressed interest in the job, but Las Vegas has, quote, zero interest in bringing Dion aboard. Further reports indicate Ben Johnson is their target. He had a Zoom interview Friday. If Ben Johnson's their target, they're gonna have to be waiting, maybe until the super bowl or after it, because the Lions are looking good. Pete Carroll, the former USC Seahawks coach, is Scheduled to interview.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I don't think Pete Carroll's a bad call there. I don't. I don't know if it's the best call, but I think Pete Carroll, because you didn't get variable, Brady couldn't talk you into that. And, I mean, you know, Tom faced Pete Carroll in a Super bowl, so he's seen that Pete Carroll defense.
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Unknown Speaker
They shoved out the GM because they have. Have something here. It's some kind of package deal. Right. You don't just wait a day, then can the coach then wait another day, then fire the gm. They got something cooked up here. Right?
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Matt Hasselbeck
I. I don't think Dion. You've been on Dion to the Raiders. I don't buy it. They've done the star coach. They did Jon Gruden. They've done that thing. They've done the dynasty coach. I would go. I think at this point, they're going to get a quarterback. I. I would probably. This is not a job I'd want. I. I'll probably go with the whiz kid. I would probably try to get the best offensive coordinator, try to get Liam Cohen from Tampa. If you want to get Aaron Glenn. I think Aaron Glenn's better than this job, but I could. I could see handing it over. If you're in a division with Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid, you better get a clever offensive coach.
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Unknown Speaker
So I missed this. This is just a brick in handicapping who's going to get the Raiders job. I had forgotten how bad the Josh McDaniels experience was there. So I guess Mark Daniels was scarred by that, and he's like, I'm not doing Patriot Way anymore. So we were off on that. I mean, I just totally missed you remember, McDaniels was there and it just.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, it didn't work.
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Unknown Speaker
Went spiral quickly, and he doesn't want to do another Patriots guy. Ben Johnson is obviously a hot name here. Is there a college guy who gets you excited? A Sark, if you will, to Vegas. What about Ryan Day and Chip Kelly as a package deal after they win the national championship?
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Matt Hasselbeck
That's not terrible.
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Colin Cowherd
That's interesting.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Sark. Listen, Sark's got the best college job, arguably in the country. I'm not taking the Raiders job.
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Unknown Speaker
And he's got Ark Banning.
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Mike McCarthy
Yeah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
If you offered me the Bears job that I'm interested in, if I'm Sark, that interests me, but I'm not going. Take it. To me, the Raiders is the worst job.
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Unknown Speaker
Worse than the Saints?
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
- [42:25]
Unknown Speaker
Stop.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Come on.
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Colin Cowherd
My God.
- [42:27]
Matt Hasselbeck
Saints have the Benson family does not run through coaches. They gave Dennis Allen an extra year that I wouldn't have. Mickey Loomis is good.
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Unknown Speaker
That's their judgment is cloudy.
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Matt Hasselbeck
They don't have any cap space. But I I'll deal players.
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Unknown Speaker
Their roster is brutal right now. Some of these they moved off Zach Vaughn. He made all Pro with the Eagles. The guys everywhere like just some of these personnel decisions. I don't love what's going on with the Saints. I think people are maybe sleeping on the Jags as a potential good job. I would go Trevor Lawrence now Bulky obviously is.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I would not go there. Trent Balky and Harbaugh could not get along.
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Unknown Speaker
I don't like.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You know, Harbaugh was doing too much winning for him.
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Unknown Speaker
It's funny how all these have like major red flags. Look at all those teams.
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Colin Cowherd
No, they do.
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Unknown Speaker
They're bad teams, bad organizations.
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Matt Hasselbeck
There's a reason they have a job opening. J. Mac with a noose.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie so Bravel.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Got the best job in Miami. Opinion Mike McCarthy. I think the Bears is the second best job I'd hire. Mike McCarthy Tomlin May I just can't see Pittsburgh making a move. Some thoughts on the packers and a a change in the NFL this weekend, and I think it's pretty clear get ahead of it, not behind it.
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
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Matt Hasselbeck
I love it.
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Colin Cowherd
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Unknown Speaker
In the Big Easy, Carissa and Gronk host the country's biggest super bowl party with a performance by Jean Baptiste and a special appearance by Gordon Ramsay. The Super Bowl 59 pregame show February 9th on Fox.
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Matt Hasselbeck
John Baptiste is amazing.
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Unknown Speaker
Did I get his name right?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Oh, he's just incredible.
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Unknown Speaker
Spectacular.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, Green Bay lost. Take a deep breath. Not a terrible loss. We all thought Green Bay was a year away and then you lose five offensive performers in the game, you're not going to win at Philadelphia. Fumble the opening kickoff. The truth is about the Green bay Packers. They went 06 against the Lions, Eagles and Vikings. I lost perspective last year when they rolled Dallas. I thought all right, here we go. But you know what happened the next week? They lost to San Francisco and Jordan Love had two picks. And that's probably what they are, a quarterback that's young, ascending and growing and a bunch of skill. Favre won a Super bowl in Green Bay in year five, Aaron won it in year six, and Jordan Love just finished year five. It's going to be okay. They lost a couple of receivers, the offensive line. Philadelphia's O D lines are better to begin with. Forget losing guys, they got a great coach, a really good young quarterback, tons of skill, cap space. They're fine. They used to call them yuppies when you were young and upwardly mobile. That's what Green Bay is. They've, they got space, they've got talent, they got skill, they got a good coach. But it was, and you could tell early it was just not their day. And here's Matt LeFleur after. You know, it's just right now.
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Unknown Speaker
Nice.
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Matt Hasselbeck
That's about, that's about, about par for the.
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Colin Cowherd
The night right there.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah. Knocked over a water bottle. Packers are going to be fine. Here's the other thing that for years and years I said O lines, quarterbacks, coaching, that's the cake of a football team. Receivers are icing. And then receivers got very hot. Receivers are back to being icing. Look at who looks really good now. Buffalo, Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore. The top six rushing teams in the NFL all made the playoffs. That's never happened before. Colin running back is dead. No, the narrative is seven of the top wide receivers in receptions missed the playoffs. Here's what wins in December and January and early February. Physicality, controlling the clock.
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Colin Cowherd
Long drives at the end of a.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Game when you have a lead, third down, red zone, scoring. All of those are about the running back. There's only so much you can do with a wide receiver at the three yard line. That's when you need the running back. I mean the Texans smoke the Chargers without Tank Dell or Stefan Diggs. The Bills are better without very talented Stefan Diggs. The jets didn't necessarily get great when Devonte Adams arrives and I like him and receivers are important, but it's a coach quarterback lead the run games. After the game, Lamar Jackson was asked what is it like to watch Derrick Henry run. It looked like a movie clip. Like, you know when, like I'm gonna give cars. You watch the movie cars.
- [52:18]
Jason McIntyre
You know when, when Lightning McQueen just flying, flashing past.
- [52:22]
Matt Hasselbeck
And then it's like that's how Derek.
- [52:24]
Jason McIntyre
Look and all those guys just, it looked, it looked like a movie, bro.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I'm not gonna lie to you. Let me give you four examples. The Raiders let Josh Jacobs go. How their season work. The Titans less let Derrick Henry go with Will Levis. He probably could have used Derrick Henry. How'd that work out? The Panthers a few years ago let Christian McCaffrey go. How'd that work out? And the Giants let Saquon Barkley walk to the Eagles, Raiders, Titans, Panthers, Giants. By the way, I'll say this Chargers could have used a little Austin Eckler. Just saying running backs will always have value. They are a quarterback, especially a young quarterback's best friend. The things that win late in the season when the weather gets crappy is not a vertical receiver. Tyreek Hill in January and December. Not interested. You know what I'm interested in? The Lions backfield, the Eagles backfield, Baltimore's backfield, James Cook. I mean Baltimore has been good for years. What changed? James Cook in the red zone. That guy can smell the end zone. He's got like red zone laser. Running backs are great. Don't ever believe running backs are going away. They get hurt more. Always going to have more value than a receiver.
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Colin Cowherd
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