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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in live. It's the Herd, wherever you may be. However you may be listening. Kelvin Sampson, great coach of the Houston Cougars, is going to be joining us in one hour from now. That team is that team is a handful and they've had a road. Gonzaga, Purdue, they have Had a road. Tennessee got spanked. That game was not completed competitive. And Tennessee by the way, didn't do a lot once they fell down. They didn't. Didn't have like a second gear. Not a lot of college basketball teams shoot well. So if you get now like Michigan State, you can be a little bit of trouble. I think it's been a fun tournament. I cannot wait for Duke in Houston. Cannot wait.
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Jason McIntyre
I cannot wait for you to give us a bracket update. That's what I'm very excited about. Anything over there? No, no, nothing. Cuz I. I got a little chalky with it, as the kids like to say. And you know, what do we. We got four number one seeds but they're the best teams by so far. It's not even close.
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Colin Cowherd
Feels like it. Here we go. Colin right? Colin wrong. On a Monday where Colin was right. Two SEC teams in the final four, four in the final eight. It's not close. Outside of Duke, nobody in the ACC really did much. The acc, I mean the sec, the athletes, the lane. I picked Auburn as my number one. Florida may be the best team. It's just a deeper, better conference. We've been saying this since early January on. Are you watching SEC basketball? Because it looks like the ACC about six years ago. And here's Bruce Pearl, Auburn coach on the conference. Everybody in the SEC is invested.
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Jason McIntyre
It just means more. And I said this at the beginning of the season.
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Colin Cowherd
The teams at the bottom of our league are investing very similarly to the teams in the middle and the top of the league. There's just not that much difference. There isn't. Where Collin was wrong, I started thinking too much. I did not have Duke in the final four because three freshmen play over 20 minutes and I thought they were too young. Well, they're also great. They're favored by four and a half over a great Houston team. Their average winning margin. This is much like UConn last year. They're winning by 23 points a game. So they've got athleticism, coaching, length, depth and the best player easily in Cooper. Flag where Colin was right. Well, I said the Dodgers and this is without Freeman, Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts being 100% and without Ohtani pitching yet. I think this is the best roster I've ever seen. And according to baseball stats, the Dodgers are the first team in baseball history to go five zero with 30 plus runs scored, 20 plus walks drawn, 10 plus home runs, 55 strikeouts and zero errors committed. They do not have a hole. It is a virtual all star team. And again, depth of talent, pitching, bullpen. It's like nothing I've ever seen.
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Jason McIntyre
Where Colin was wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I thought the Yankees would pull back a little without Garrett Cole. Who knew they would revolutionize the Torpedo bat. They have 15 home runs in three games. It's Babe Ruth on HGH. Babe Ruth multiplied. For the record, Aaron Judge isn't using him. But they have legally. The dimensions of the bat haven't changed. The length hasn't changed, the weight hasn't changed. They've just redistributed the bulk of the bat toward the label for a couple of batters. And it is working wonders where Collin was right. I've said this Cowboy team is top heavy and in trouble. And Steven Jones admitted this weekend that, yeah, free agency got a little more expensive than we could afford. And again in February, I was quoted saying this is the big brand in the country that is reeling and reeling fast. And they went cheap on a head coach. They've slowly been dying for a couple of years. I know the 12 win thing, but if they pay Micah, that'll be. Micah Deck and CD Lamb have produced one playoff win and that was over that sub 500 Tampa team. Where Colin was wrong, I started supporting John Calipari. He blew a 16 point lead and lost in the tournament the minute I put my arms around him. It is hard to blow a big lead late in college basketball simply because there are not a lot of potent offenses in the sport. And Arkansas got outscored 27:11 down the stretch. They probably should have called a timeout to slow it down. They didn't. And the rest is history. Where Colin was right, I said, Aaron Rodgers has all the leverage with the Steelers. He should take his dear sweet time. And he is. Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf had a throwing session at UCLA and Aaron's telling you, maybe I'll take it, maybe I won't. I'm leaning toward he's going to take it now. But this is what I said. If you don't have urgency with the quarterback position, this is what happened to Washington with Sam Howell and it's what's happened with Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. They just don't take quarterback and offense seriously enough. Where Colin was wrong, I hated this story. That receiver who I loved at Arizona T. Mac, was quoted as saying this weekend, I'm not a big fan of watching film. I'm not. I don't watch football. That's not what you want to say. That, that, that's. That that's got Johnny Manziel vibes all over it, bro. The great ones, the Larry Fitzgeralds, the Jerry Rice. It's. You gotta care. It's prep. It's not just hanging out with your receiver group. If you want to separate in any position, this is a sport where cognitive function and commitment is really big. I. I love this kid out of college, but this, this is a. If I need a receiver, I may wait till the next round kind of comment where Colin was right. I've said wide receivers, the convertible sports car of football. It's fun, it's flashy, doesn't produce a lot of playoff wins. Tyreek Hill this weekend wants out of Miami. Hinted at multiple trades and multiple posts on X. Kansas City's been to three Super Bowls since he's left Miami, has produced zero playoff wins since he arrived. I like him. I think he's a good player. I'd love to have him on my team. But there is something about this position that, that just creates personality. Plus, and it just. Wife said watch out with DK Metcalf in Pittsburgh. I don't know what it is with the position, but it, this is something that is way too common and a bit of a nuisance for Miami. Make you answer questions you don't have to deal with. Colin, right? Colin. Wrong with that. Matt Hasselback, 18 years in the NFL. First of all, the Aaron D.K. metcalf workout at UCLA. I don't know, that feels like something to me. I don't want to be like media guy making it out to be a big deal, but it kind of feels like something, right?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah. Well, listen, that's the spot. Ucla. I mean, even back when I was playing, guys would meet up in la, either the Home Depot center over at ucla, they're very friendly with celebrities coming there and working out. I mean, I think I've seen Justin Bieber. Bieber working out there on the track over there running the stairs. So that's not a big deal. What it does tell me though, is that Aaron Rodgers isn't really thinking about retiring. Like, you don't go out at his age and throw footballs with DK Metcalf in March if you're probably going to retire. So I don't know that we have a lot of answers, but I think that that answer is pretty clear. This is a guy that's training and getting ready to play this year.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And Aaron has said multiple times he loves the game. It brings him a lot of joy. And if you've been good at this sport, as you well Know, guys want to play it, it pays well, it's fun. And Pittsburgh's got some dudes. Okay, so I've heard a lot about this Shador Sanders and I keep saying. I. Here's all I know about Shador Sanders, okay? I'm not a scout. Battle line. Running for his life. No run game, 74% completion percentage. That is something. That's, that's like not just a 68, 74 is a lot. I don't think he's a Lamar. I don't think he's Mahomes. I don't know. I, I know he didn't win a lot of games. That's not the end of it. Matt. Did Matt Ryan win a lot of games in college?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Hey, I take offense to that because he went to Boston College, but my dad went to Colorado, so I'll defend Shador. Listen, the, the 74% completion or whatever, it was a really high completion percentage. That doesn't mean all that much to me because he's not a guy that threw a lot of balls away. And as a play caller, when you don't trust your offensive line, you're getting the ball out of your hands quick. Also with some. So that, that's not really what I'm looking at. I think he's got all the tools. I'm sure some scouts are saying, hey, he's only six, one and a half. He's like 212 pounds. Like, that's not giving me Justin Herbert, you know, Tom Brady, the Manning 6 foot 5 type guy, vibes. So you're a little bit of an outlier to get drafted in the top five of the draft with his measurables. But he does have other intangibles that he brings to the table. I do love his competitiveness. I think that there's a, there's a DNA or a sense in some teams though where they don't really love some of the other stuff. We've seen some of the taunting, not shaking hands, all the penalties, pushing a referee, like some of that kind of stuff I think might give some people pause. But no, I think he's going to have a successful career. At the same time, I think he could drop a little bit on day one.
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Colin Cowherd
So you know Pete Carroll? Well, I would argue Pete is old school football. He likes a run game. When he had Marshawn lynch and Reggie Bush and a pass rush, he's done well. I think Ashton Genty and I know everybody hates draft and running backs. If you go the last six, seven years, if you draft the running back, top 12, they're all good. There's no misses late first round where everything misses. That's different. I could see Pete Carroll, you know him, you know Chip Kelly, I could see him saying, guys, that's going to make us. We got to have ball control to beat Mahomes and Herbert. We're not doing it with Geno throwing 40 times. Raiders and Genti, it works for me. What say you?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, it works for me too. And no doubt that Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly, they want to run the ball. And so it's very easy to get your get your mind around like a Marshawn lynch type running game there in Las Vegas. At the same time. At the same time, like we got to figure out what the league feels about the Saquon effect. Like you said, a lot of people are saying, do we really need to draft a running back that high? And the answer was no. But then the Saquon effect happened and now people are looking at guys like Genti and they're saying, hey, that could be our Saquon. So that's a factor. However much in the way that I said not every team loves the vibe of a Shador Sanders. If he were to fall down to the Raiders around six, would they go ahead and take him? Because I think Pete Carroll loves that vibe. Living on the edge of competitiveness, having a flip, a flair about you. I think he loves that. And having him behind a Geno Smith early in his career, I mean I could see them taking the long view of it that way. That would not shock me either.
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Colin Cowherd
You know. Well, I've talked about this before is you can win when you're top heavy. The Rams did with Ramsey, Darnold, Stafford, Whitworth where they had like four or five guys making a ton of money. Then they have to rebuild and it's really bad now. The Rams drafted so well back to back drafts and they have Stafford that they've kind of like not had much of a rebuild. So you can go top heavy. I think the Niners did and then last year was like, okay, we're really old, expensive and brittle. I honestly think the play for Dallas because you're already invested on the right side of the to me offense. CD Lambda I think draft weekend gets emotional. I would move Micah Parsons in a weak draft. I don't want to pay three players 570 million. I just, I can't do that. Look at Phillies roster, Detroit's roster, the Rams roster, the Ravens roster. Cowboys need seven players. They don't need a really great pass rusher. Am I nuts?
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Matt Hasselbeck
I mean, they got to do something. I mean, I don't know what the solution is there. They've spent too much money on one side of the ball to have the results that they've had so far. I don't know if I'm building a team, though. I need my guy on the offensive side of the ball, and I need my guy on the defensive side of the ball. Mike Holmgren would talk about this all the time back when they were in San Fran with Bill Walsh. They. They had Joe Montana and they had Ronnie Lott, like, in green. They had Brett Favre and they had Reggie White. To me, Micah Parsons is as good as it gets at the position. I can't see a scenario where I'm getting rid of him. I really can't. However, you make some good points. They have a lot of issues in their division, has gotten a lot better than they are, you know, in terms of what Philly is and what Washington's about to come about to become. So Dallas, they. They kind of need a miracle.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to. I want to wrap with this. I had a GM once tell me, he said, I don't want 13 draft picks. He goes, because if eight of them hit, we're going to be super young. And most players outside of a corner or a running back take like, a year to figure it out. Tight ends take a year to figure out blocking. A lot of receivers are raw. And he said, I'd rather have, like, a player and seven picks than 12 picks. And I look at New England, all new free agents, they're going to have all new draft picks. 40% of this roster could be new. And Drake May's a kid in your NFL experience, can you be too new? Can you have too many Young Niners have 12 draft picks? What if nine hit? How do you fall on that?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Listen, look at the contract of the head coach when you want the answer to that question. If a guy's in the first year of his deal, he can do that. He can say, hey, hey, I'm taking a long view of this thing. Not a problem. And then the flip side, look at a guy like John Harbaugh in Baltimore, just did a deal. It's win. Now I don't even know if they need a draft pick. Like, they've got a great team as is. So, yeah, Vrabel, are they trying to win? Yes. They're trying to build something special. They're trying to build a house. But this is a foundational year for them that's you know, they got to get everything around Drake Maywright so that he can be what they. What they hope he can be. And we all know what that is. In Foxborough, they're trying to hoist Lombardi's and nothing short of that.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, can you convince J. Mac? So I keep telling J. Mac what a fun time I have in Chicago. I was there this weekend. Why don't you tell him if you had a nice weekend in Chicago.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Hey, loose lips sink ships. Colin. I. I had too good of a time in. In Chicago. That's a. That's a great city. In fact, I think they're still celebrating St. Patrick's Day. I don't know how that's true. They were celebrating that like two weeks before and now here we are, like almost April and they're still celebrating Matt Hasselbay.
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Colin Cowherd
Great seeing you, Matty.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Always see you guys.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he had a family get together in Chicago and they could have picked a lot of places and they went to Chicago. It was a good time. I had a good. I was in the burbs and had a good time. It's quite a city. Ryan was there this week.
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Jason McIntyre
Was there no snow, right?
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Colin Cowherd
No, it was like 48 degrees. 53.
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Jason McIntyre
A balmy 48.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yes. I think it's 60 today. Is it today or tomorrow at 60?
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Jason McIntyre
That's awesome. Love to hear that. I. I've got to go to a cold weather locale very soon. I'm not thrilled.
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Colin Cowherd
Where? Where, Where?
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I can't talk about it on air.
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Colin Cowherd
Why?
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Jason McIntyre
It's confidential information, my friend.
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Colin Cowherd
What, you're going to Philly? That's confidential or something.
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Jason McIntyre
Why would I go to Philly for.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
Turn on the News. This is the Herd line news. Speaking of advantages, the jets have Justin Fields. That's a big edge over Aaron Rodgers. Jets gave him a two year deal and he's going to be their starter. Fields is on his third team in five seasons. Actually third team in three seasons. After we have Bears, Steelers, now Jets. Here's Aaron Glenn talking about the third time being a charm, quiet confidence.
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Colin Cowherd
You go back and watch him out of Howard State. Big arm, understands how to run an offense when given opportunity.
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Jason McIntyre
You want to let him play quarterback. I mean that's what he's always wanted to do.
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Colin Cowherd
And listen, I'm not saying that he.
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Jason McIntyre
Hasn'T had a chance to play that.
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Colin Cowherd
Do that in other places and you.
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Jason McIntyre
Know that's not my issue. But I know what I want to do with that player and I obviously.
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Colin Cowherd
Want to utilize his legs, but I.
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Jason McIntyre
Also want to give him a chance.
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Colin Cowherd
To go out there and play quarterback. All right, he'll get a second chance. Darnold got one. Second or third? Well, third.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm going to be positive here.
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Colin Cowherd
You ready?
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Jason McIntyre
I got.
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Colin Cowherd
Darnold got a third. Baker got a third. There's no reason Justin Fields can't get a third.
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Jason McIntyre
So if you're looking for something positive, Justin Fields completion percentage has gone up every year he's been in the league. Remember, he's moving around teams, offensive coordinators.
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Colin Cowherd
And he also has had some defensive situations that are not ideal. Bears and Steelers are totally defensive organizations.
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Jason McIntyre
And his quarterback rating has also increased every single year. Again, he's not throwing as many passes last year as he did the first few years. But there is signs of progress now how he meshes with the new oc. No, do what happens with him and everybody likes him.
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Colin Cowherd
He's got a good arm and he moves well. And Sam Darnold did not click until Minnesota and Baker didn't really, truthfully really click. Like Tampa was like, oh, Baker's really.
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Jason McIntyre
Good but those are with stud guy like Liam Cohen was excellent.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, again here's where I would defend Justin Fields. I do not think like a Baker or Darnold, he is gifted enough to overcome the wrong culture or the staff. And I think the Bears offensively and the Steelers offensively. Now unfortunately the jets are going to be a defensive culture. If this kid would have gone to Sean McVay, there's no doubt in my mind you'd get the best version of him. Now what is the best version of him? Is it Sam Darnold last year? I don't think it is. Is it Baker In Tampa. I don't quite think it is, but it could be.
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Jason McIntyre
Could be. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
So he does. He's not a kid like everybody I know that's talked to him. Everybody likes it. Everybody likes Darnold. People like Baker like that. Part of it is players. When. When Tomlin bailed on him last year, that was a little bit of a warning sign because they were 4 and 2.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, but the players loved him. Remember? They really liked.
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Colin Cowherd
Everybody likes him.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Yeah. Fields is good. Good. I don't know. Now, the more you talk about Fields here just now, I'm starting to be like, okay, do we have something in New York? Do we need to raise the expectations? Win totals are starting to emerge. Oh, yeah, I don't. We don't have them yet.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no. I just saw him this weekend. I can't believe I didn't bring him. I'll bring them in tomorrow. Oh, I. I already.
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Jason McIntyre
I'm not on the right.
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Colin Cowherd
I am a big seller on Dallas. Dallas has way.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay.
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Colin Cowherd
If I recall, it was like eight and a half, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Dallas under. There was an over. The. Oh, Chargers over, Dallas under. Those are the two that I remember.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay. All right. We're looking forward to that. Let's get to Deion Sanders. Colin, he talked about how he would handle Shador's process last year. You remember this saying there were certain cities where he wouldn't play. It's going to be an Eli. He was, like, almost sending messages, threaten, threatening folks. Well, Dion sounds like he's changed his tune, and he's going to be happy wherever Shador lands and won't try to get him to a preferred destination. And I'm sure you saw over the weekend, Deion got a new deal to stay in Boulder. Five years, 54 mil.
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Colin Cowherd
You know what? I've got to be honest with Deion Sanders. I remember the first weekend he got the job, and my first thought was, cowboy Deion in, like, pot central. There's no way. And then I thought about it over the weekend. I thought, you know what? College football is about getting attention and recruiting. My bad. He'll do okay. I am surprised. I thought this was a little bit of an airport for him. Land, stay there briefly, get on the next flight. You know what? To his credit, I think he really likes it. I think he likes college kids. I think he, like, he's created a culture. It's kind of cool.
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Jason McIntyre
Do you think he's saying this? Hey, wherever he goes, I'm going to Be happy for him. Do you think that's because he secretly knows already he's going to Cleveland?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think he's a dad and he's fired up for him and it's the last thing you want to do is if your kid goes somewhere and you complain about it and all of a sudden the kid's got stuff in his. I think you should just let him go where he goes. It's pro sports. If you're, if you're. If you're good enough to make it and I think Shedeur's got some talent here, then you'll make it.
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Jason McIntyre
Final story, Colin not great news. Kevin Durant turned an ankle badly last night. You see it there? Just totally bends. Couldn't put any pressure on it. Not good. I don't know how he wears low tops when he hoops. Kind of stepped on the ankle there. I think that's one of the Thompson twins. Yeah, not good left. He's getting an MRI today. Will not travel with the team tomorrow. Big three game. Road trip for the Suns. They are trying to get into the play in. I don't think it's going to happen.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you got.
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Jason McIntyre
There's some speculation this may have been his final game with the Suns. Look, he can't even walk.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it probably is because we know.
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Jason McIntyre
He'S going to be elsewhere this off season.
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Colin Cowherd
He's.
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Jason McIntyre
Whether it's Houston, you think the Knicks are in play. I'm sure some people are going to be speculating. Boston, whatever, who knows. But kind of a just.
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Colin Cowherd
He's going to market and you got to bake in some injuries. He's always.
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Jason McIntyre
It's a stick, you know, he's 37. He's hurt. Now we have Dame down with the blood clot. We got Kevin Durant down. Probably not going to make the playoffs. You're looking at Devin Booker, not in the playoffs. Joel Embiid, Paul George, all these stars just stinks. We were bemoaning Joe Burrow not making the playoffs.
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Colin Cowherd
You know what's interesting? Think about this. In football, bigger, stronger men tackle each other and when you get to the end of the season, the really good teams are all, almost all healthy. I mean, Kansas City was missing an offensive lineman. The two Super Bowls, Kansas City has been hammered. They just missed the left tackle. They've had some O line issues. But by and large, the Rams were healthy at the end of the year and the Eagles were healthy at the end of the year.
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Jason McIntyre
And the lions were most 49ers were most definitely.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean Everybody loses one really good player. Generally over the course of an NFL season, you're going to lose one of your big, your big stars. But it's funny how the NBA, we don't think of contact and physicality. A lot of dudes, I mean, they're finely tuned athletes. A lot of dudes get hurt. You start ticking off the names, you're like, man, there's a lot of guys out. Wow, J. Mac with a new. Well, that's the news.
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Jason McIntyre
And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.
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Colin Cowherd
So why'd you get all worn out this weekend? What did you do?
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Jason McIntyre
So you know, my daughter's in sixth grade. She's pretty good at basketball. She has some friends who are good. We put together like an all star team and just entered a tournament. We had one practice together and we won the tournament yesterday. It was amazing. Free throw with one second left to break the tie. Colin, I will just say this to all the dads watching. You gotta coach your kids. It is the most fun thing I've ever done. I'm not even kidding. I've done some fun things in my life. Spring break in college. I'm just saying coaching your kids, the reward, seeing them go crazy, the parents, it's awesome because there's only a finite window. You know, your kids are now grown up. Up, right? But you don't hang with them. You barely see them, right?
- [32:01]
Colin Cowherd
Well, my daughter. My daughter I talk to every day. Every day I talk to my kids a lot. Thank God for FaceTime. FaceTimes. I remember. I remember the moment I knew FaceTime was revolutionary. My daughter was in Cape Town, South Africa, at a leadership conference. I sent her down there, she had a ball. It was amazing. Conference and camp, conference. And I was in Manhattan beach. And she calls me from her room in Cape Town and it's clear as a bell without much of a delay. And I'm on the beach in California and I'm like, this is great for parents. Yeah, you can talk to your kid. I mean, last night I'm talking to my daughter. She just, you know, moved to a place.
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Jason McIntyre
The only drawback of this tournament was I start coaching the game with another dad. Texas tech is up 7 on Florida with like 3 minutes left. I'm like, oh, my gosh, great for my bracket. After the game, I asked the refs, hey, who won the game? They're like, florida. I was like, what? That comeback? I had to watch it. Colin, did you see the strategy from Florida? Fouling down seven with like three minutes left to put bad Free throw shooters on the line. That's genius stuff. It worked. And then Walter Clayton.
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Colin Cowherd
Florida is not as good as everybody told me. Duke is better than I thought. Houston is what I thought. Duke is better than I thought. Florida's not quite as great as everybody told me. I like Auburn to win it. I, I still think. Oh, no, I think Auburn bold. Yeah, I do now. Now they have a hell gonna be okay. Well, that's the key if he's okay. He's a tough kid. He is a.
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Jason McIntyre
He's another great story stating he started small college, moved his way up.
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Colin Cowherd
Up.
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Jason McIntyre
He's, what is he, 23 years old now? He's an awesome player. You're like, how is he not a pro? He's got to be a pro, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, some guys, some guys remember Juan Dixon at Maryland. Some guys, like, they're just great college players and then they get to the pros and they're tweeners and they just, you know, it's, it's.
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Jason McIntyre
He had his moment. Juan Dixon did it, Mary. He's a legend. He'll never pay for a drink in College Park.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, a bit of a tweener in the NBA and it didn't work. Yeah, it happens. Live in la. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Kavino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast and of course on social media. That's Covino and Rich. With amex, there's always a new experience to explore from curating the perfect vacation and chilling in the Centurion Lounge before you get there trying out that new trendy restaurant. Thanks to priori Notified with Global dining access by Resy and getting straight to the action at the big game with.
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Matt Hasselbeck
It's kind of something that I've said.
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Colin Cowherd
A lot through this whole year, is.
- [38:37]
Matt Hasselbeck
That we just have such a talented team. Each night could be somebody else's night. I think tonight Khan kind of stepped up and, you know, had the ball a lot. We ran a lot of action for him. Tyrese was huge for us. I mean, I think it's just having so many talented guys on the team. It's not going to be your night every night. And it's just. Don't hang your head. Just keep playing hard.
- [38:55]
Colin Cowherd
Somebody talk about just winning the 98%.
- [38:57]
Matt Hasselbeck
And doing all the little things. So just not letting the shots affect anything else you do, and just knowing that the rest of the guys got.
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Colin Cowherd
My back and are going to make those plays. If you look at most of the failures in the NBA from our domestic programs, it's not a talent thing. They're just not mature enough. They. They can't handle their weight. They can't handle the situation. I mean, the Memphis situation. Now, John Morant shoots so poorly at three pointers. Like, he. He just. His game hasn't developed. It just hasn't developed. I mean, forget the gun stuff. He, you know, young guys come in there immature, but, like, his game hasn't developed. Now the coach, they got rid of the coach and they brought in a bunch of new people on the staff and Memphis is a mess. Like, it's their talented. But if you look at most of the domestic players who aren't as good as we thought, it's not that they lack talent. And that's why, like when you get a Draymond Green who comes into the league and he's been at Michigan State multiple years, it's such an advantage, such an advantage of two or three years of college. But I Cooper Flagg is, that dude is rare. You just watch him. That is rare. He is ready to drop 20 a night in the NBA. The other story today is that Micah Parsons and his agent want $200 million. Now, I have said this. I would trade him on draft weekend. Draft weekend in the NFL is like married guys going to Vegas. Like you're capable of really poor judgment. I'm not saying you'll do something of poor judgment, but you're capable of it. And you'll get patient. Executives on draft weekend get impatient. Stoic GMs in the NFL will get emotional. So, I mean, you look at the Eagles and Lions rosters and increasingly the Rams, the Cowboys aren't close. I mean, if you pay Micah 200 million, you'll be paying Micah more than the entire Rams defense. And the Rams are still two years from paying anybody. So I think sometimes in business you have to leverage these very, very emotional moments. We have a bad draft, and again, this is the way the NFL works. As a coach, you get two years, that's it. As a quarterback, you get sometimes less than two years before the guy upstairs who's now a billionaire, loses patience. And Dallas has gotten, you know, Jerry Jones has gone from maverick to milk toast. He, you know, extending Dak getting cheap on a coach. Mike McCarthy, they're not taking big swings on stuff. And Philadelphia is in, Detroit is and the Rams are and the Niners are and the Cowboys aren't. And you go back to the Jimmy Jones era, they did, they took big swings. And so, you know, I to me, Micah Parsons, you're going to get a first round pick. So Cowboys would have two first round picks. You probably get a first and a third. Now you got to hit on those draft picks. I like him as a player. He's not Miles Garrett. He's not Von Miller in his prime. He's not Aaron Donald. I don't think he's T.J. watt. I don't think he's Aiden Hutchison. I don't think he's as talented as Jared Verse. I think he's a really really good a edge rusher, but I would have no problem if I got a couple of draft picks. Spend your money on the right side of the ball. It's not that I don't like him. I can think two things. I think he's really good and I think he could get us another first round pick. Dallas has got to figure out a way to not spend 576 million on three players because this roster needs six dudes, not re signing one dude. Here's Matt Hasselbeck on the Cowboys issues with Micah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
They've spent too much money on one side of the ball to have the results that they've had so far. I don't know if I'm building a team though. I need my guy on the offensive side of the ball and I need my guy on the defensive side of the ball. Micah Parsons is as good as it gets at the position. I can't see a scenario where I'm getting rid of him. I really can't. However, you make some good points. They have a lot of issues and their division has gotten a lot better than they are, you know, in terms of what Philly is and what Washington's about to come about to become. So Dallas, they, they kind of need a miracle.
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Colin Cowherd
So the draft now is three weeks out. J Mac it's one of our favorite times of the year. March Madness into the draft. You know, I've seen all these draft boards. It looks like Genty, the running back who we thought was top 10 then he dropped. I think what's funny is, is, you know, I talked to an executive last week about this stuff is that players get hot. There's a linebacker for Alabama now which everybody is in love with, may go top 12 third. People really like him. The receiver for Arizona people are out on now.
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Jason McIntyre
I was going to ask you about that video, but let me go back to Michael Parsons real quick. If you're another team, are you giving up a first round pick and then paying Micah Parsons? What. What is he, $200 million? Are you doing that? Does that make sense?
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Colin Cowherd
It depends on the team. So let's say I'm a very good team. I'll just throw Washington out. I got a rookie on a quarterback deal and I'm giving up a first round pick in a bad draft.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, Dallas probably isn't doing that in the division, but that's a good idea. A team with a rookie quarterback. I mean, Tennessee, right? They get Cam Ward, we're on the cheap. Let's get Michael Parsons in there. You know who Will look better when Michael Parsons on the team Legarius Sneed who was terrible coming over from Kansas City. So you're right, it has to be a team with a quarterback on a rookie deal that would trade for Micah which means he could be going to a bad team.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well Dallas last year was a bad team. You know, lost in all this Dallas stuff is. Right. They went cheap on the coach like lost in all this stuff is. And this is nothing against Brian shot number. There is a consensus around the league that was a miss and by the way Jimmy Haslam the owner of the Cleveland Browns acknowledged this weekend and it's over for desean he said we took a big swing and we missed. It's over.
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Jason McIntyre
You don't say a swing and a miss on your quarterback who's a franchise.
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Colin Cowherd
Unless it's over or you're drafting Shador Sanders at number two. I thought that was interesting that the owner of the Brown said yeah the desean thing was a mess and he's.
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Jason McIntyre
Basically admitting it was on him by saying we took a swing and a miss. Like he's the one saying that as opposed to the gm. Everybody thinks he was overruled to get Watson and that was a historical whiff. You know how to make up for it is to get Shador.
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Colin Cowherd
I think this draft, there's only two players in this draft that look a little bit generational athletically. Abdul Carr. Abdul Carr of the pass rusher Penn State and Travis Hunter. Those guys are all time talent. In any draft they'd be top 10. They're great players. Yeah, I think Genty, I think there's a growing belief that he's special. He just doesn't look like other players. It's not a good receiver draft. It's not a great tackle draft.
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Jason McIntyre
It's a good tight end draft, very.
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Colin Cowherd
Good tight end draft. You know, I mean it's, it's a great running back draft. There's some good safeties but it's. Most of the safeties are late first, second, third round guys. It's just, it's not. I don't know how to explain it but I don't remember a draft with less buzz.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And I think the only player in this draft that changes wins is Cam Ward to Tennessee. That's probably right now I do think Genty Hasselbeck talked about this. I think the Raiders with a 6 pick and that's where the odds makers think he'll go. I think Chip Kelly, Pete Carroll run game. I think they take the running back.
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Matt Hasselbeck
No doubt that Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly, they want to run the ball. And so it's very easy to get your, get your mind around like a Marshawn lynch type running game there in Las Vegas at the same time. At the same time, like, we got to figure out what the league feels about the Saquon effect. Like you said, a lot of people are saying, do we really need to draft a running back that high? And the answer was no. But then the Saquon effect happened and now people are looking at guys like Genti and they're saying, hey, that could be our sake one.
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Colin Cowherd
So almost everybody wants the trade. I mean, it's very few, I actually think, and I'm not just saying this because you're here, I think the jets pick is one of the more fascinating ones because my take is if they get that tight end from Penn State, that's really interesting, they'll have their running back, receiver, left tackle, and tight end of the future. When's the last time the jets had that? 25 years ago.
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Jason McIntyre
I hadn't thought about that.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I mean, those are the four must haves in the NFL. You gotta have a quarterback, a left tackle, a perimeter weapon. And it really helps in 2025 to have somebody could make catches over the field, either a slot receiver, a tight end.
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Jason McIntyre
Agreed.
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Colin Cowherd
And the jets would have all four. And that's. That's something.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Let me go back to the TMAC video because you know Arizona football pretty well.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I know. Jed Fish, any of this stuff that.
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Jason McIntyre
You'Re hearing from TMAC jive with with him at Arizona? Because the video was a little sus. It was almost like he was eating fast food at like a in and out. And I couldn't tell if that was like a random person videotaping. And he didn't know, but something felt off about the video.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, he basically came out and said, I don't watch a lot of football and I don't.
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Jason McIntyre
Was that him acting cool? Like young guys are just acting cool? Like, he would never tell a front office that. Do you think you just lie to him? Oh, I watch film. I love film. Like, I, I don't. I don't want to overreact to stuff, but I have some questions about that video.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, and also, you know, it's really weird. I'm. Sometimes there are certain things I don't care a ton about. Like, I. There are four or five positions I need maturity. Left tackle, quarterback, like a mike, linebacker, like center, calling all the audibles, safety, like, let's say there are certain safety. Like I need somebody in the back end of my defense. That's a real grown up. That's a, that's an experienced smart guy. But there are other positions like man at corner. I just need guys that can lock up running back. I just need somebody that hits the hole. It's not the end of the world. I've always said the hat on backwards theory. That's for the quarterback. On Wednesday during the press conference with a bank sponsor behind it. I don't care if my receivers were the hat on backwards. I don't care. I don't care if my outside linebacker does there. Certain positions matter more. So it's not the end of the world but I think you have to have more self awareness than to say it.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, well, these are, these are college kids, you know, and guys are want to act cool. Oh, I don't watch film. I'm just a natural athlete. I don't put in the work, you know, like that's, that was the vibe I was getting.
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Colin Cowherd
And also you'd be surprised how often athletes don't watch their sport. I remember having a discussion with a baseball player like a decade ago with the other place and he's like, dude, it's. I got, I hunt, I fish, I'm busy family. I don't watch a lot of baseball. I play it, I don't watch it. And so, you know, it's not the end of the world. If you like him, go draft him. I mean the kid is just long with great hands and it just makes.
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Jason McIntyre
A bunch of catch tested catches. Yeah, he looks like a T. Higgins to me.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Jason McIntyre
That's who I kind of see he goes up against. It's like, damn.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I don't love it. It's got a, it's got like a Johnny Manziel vibe. But Manziel drove me nuts because of the position he plays. Yeah, TMac, it's like it's not the end of the world. I, I don't love it and I do think there will be a team that passes on him for that.
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Jason McIntyre
Probably. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
But I don't think it's a consensus. If you need a receiver, you're going to draft him.
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Jason McIntyre
He's good. Yeah, but maybe not Carolina at 8, which is what everybody had him pegged for.
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Colin Cowherd
That's.
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Jason McIntyre
He could fall a little.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's the herd. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser podcast. Have you guys seen this new commercial from Stand up to All Hate? It's basically Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady going back and forth with reasons that they hate each other. But then when you really listen to them, the reasons for the hate are just so stupid. I don't know. This. This commercial really got me. It's a strong reminder that hate in our country continues to be out of control. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up. Call it out. Your voice is a powerful tool in this fight. You can learn more by following hat's upwithhate. Hey, all you women, supes fans and folks who just don't know yet that they're women's hoops fans. We've got a big week over at Good Game with Sarah Spain as we near the end of one of the most exciting women's college basketball seasons ever. The most parody we've seen in years, with games coming down to the wire and everyone wondering which team will be crowned national champions this weekend in Tampa. Listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
We live in a divided country, and.
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Colin Cowherd
Our media couldn't be more polarizing. That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson.
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Jason McIntyre
It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Each week we hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country. And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses.
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Colin Cowherd
On just one item from the avalanche of news. Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or.
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Jason McIntyre
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Are you hungry?
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Jason McIntyre
Colleen Witt here. And Eating While Broke is back for season four every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. This season we've got a legendary lineup serving up broke dishes and even better stor stories.
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Colin Cowherd
On the menu.
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Jason McIntyre
We have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London, and Carrie Harper Howey turning Big Macs into Big moves. Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on the Black Effect podcast network.
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Colin Cowherd
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Your favorite shows, come hungry for season four.