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Steve Covino
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Rich Davis
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Dan Byer
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Rich Davis
I'm not gonna be a sports baby.
Dan Byer
Don't be a sports baby.
Rich Davis
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Dan Byer
Yo. Now we're going to get to Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson in a second. But you know, we, we've been talking about DraftKings, the pick six. I gotta tell you, I started doing it myself the last couple nights. Cause it's allowed here in California on baseball, dude, we talk about the NBA over unders. I've been doing over under strikeouts and home runs. And it's so fun, honestly. For instance, like, like Aaron Judge home run. You know, yesterday I missed out cause I had Verlander under four and a half strikeouts. But you could pick like three things and it keeps you so locked in to just deadly baseball. And again, this is not an, this is not an official commercial. This is me just telling you I'm having a lot of fun with it. The pick six thing, you don't have to do six because the odds are tough.
Rich Davis
What do you got tonight? You pick anything tonight?
Dan Byer
Yeah, I'm gonna go over it a little bit. All right. I want to look, but yeah, we do the codes and the commercials, rightfully so. But I'm telling you personally, I'm really having fun with that. I was talking to some of my softball buddies about like, dude, we do it. I'm like, you better use our stupid code, buddy. All right. Hey, Pete Rose, the big story today. Shoeless Joe Jackson, the big story today.
Rich Davis
Can I tell you for a split second, A split second, you thought it.
Dan Byer
Was Joe Jackson the singer?
Rich Davis
No, I thought it was Michael Jackson's dad, Joe Jackson. No. For a split second, I saw a picture of Pete Rose in his Captain Kangaroo haircut wearing his red sat. And it says, reinstated. And I was like, yeah, he died. That's right. Like, I forgot.
Dan Byer
For a split second, you thought I said Pete Rose resurrected.
Rich Davis
No, reinstated. So I'm like, oh, man, look, finally.
Dan Byer
Oh, no, no.
Rich Davis
Oh. But, yeah, he's dead. Breaking news today. You heard the end buyer. MLB Commissioner Rob Manford removed Pete Roses and Shoeless Joe Jackson and other deceased players from the league's permanently ineligible list on Tuesday. Reinstated. Removed from MLB's permanent ineligible list. And I'm like, okay, Shoeless Joe Jackson, legend. We know the story. We've seen. Feel the dreams. We know Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Steve Covino
We saw good fellas.
Rich Davis
Yeah. Pete Rose. Okay. We all know his story. Little too. Little too late here, but okay. All right. It makes sense. And then my other question, along with J Stu, too, because I saw J Stu in the hallway.
Dan Byer
Yeah.
Steve Covino
Who?
Rich Davis
Yeah, he's like. He's like, j Who? J Stu, producer. He's like, my question would be, well, why?
Steve Covino
And I'm like, that was a good impersonation.
Rich Davis
And he gave you that eyebrow raise.
Jason Stewart
Is that Big J?
Rich Davis
Yeah. He's like, why? And I'm like, yeah, I know. Why now is that Big J? He actually said, my first question is why? On a random Tuesday, May 13th.
Steve Covino
Because of what's happening tomorrow.
Rich Davis
And then, yeah, he did the detective today. Tomorrow is actually Pete Rose Day. So it does kind of add up and make sense.
Dan Byer
I don't know if that's why it.
Rich Davis
Adds up, but it does make it make more sense, right? Like, why now? And then. Then I started thinking, too, when I hear Dan Byer saying, and other 17 other people on the list. And I'm like, can I name anyone else on the list? And then it makes sense. Do you remember the movie Eight Men Out?
Dan Byer
Yep. Those are eight of them.
Rich Davis
Yeah. Eight of them are from the Black Socks scandal. So most of them are Black socks that played with Shoeless Joe Jackson. The guys with the shoes. So Shoeless Joe Jackson, most of them. And are affiliated with that scandal from back then.
Steve Covino
So I was. Sam brought up something about Ray Liotta, and I was laughing because it's exactly what I pictured my mind.
Jason Stewart
Do you. You looking at, like, MLB Network right now, and you see a picture of Pete Rose and a real picture of Joe Jackson. You're like, why isn't.
Rich Davis
Is that.
Jason Stewart
Why is that not Ray Liotta's face? You're like, oh, wait. Oh, you think of Joe Jackson. You're like, can I give you a.
Rich Davis
Ray Liotta fun fact?
Spot
Please do.
Rich Davis
He's from my hometown of Union, New Jersey, and he's in our Union, New Jersey High School hall of Fame. And I was there sitting in the audience when he was inducted. Goodfellas came out in 1990. I graduated in 94. So he got inducted around 91, 92 or something like that, fresh off of the movie fame. And it was an experience. I'll leave it at that. And we later had him on the show years later.
Dan Byer
But you in the hall of Fame.
Rich Davis
And then you remember him most. Aside from Goodfellas and Shoeless Joe Jackson in the field of dreams, you know him best probably from Chantix. Chantix, Chantix.
Dan Byer
Are you in the hall of Fame, by the way?
Rich Davis
Am I in the. No, I'm in the hall of nothing.
Dan Byer
How are you not in the Union hall of Fame?
Rich Davis
Because Just.
Jason Stewart
Just Ray Liotta going up against Ray Liotta.
Rich Davis
Ray Liotta, Robert Wool and Artie Lang. Artie Lang. They're all from my hometown.
Dan Byer
No one else.
Rich Davis
No room for Steve Covino, former Yankee Joe. Joe Collins. Joe Collins.
Dan Byer
You should be on the melt rush.
Steve Covino
Collins can get in there. You should get in.
Rich Davis
Yeah, man, I think so.
Spot
Of those 17 players that were on the list, all of them in one way or another, except two were tied to gambling of some sort.
Rich Davis
Yeah, I know. I had to look it up because I'm like, all right, well, that there's eight covered, right? Eight Men Out. That famous movie from the. Was it late 80s with John Cusack? I remember going to see it, too. The Black Sox scandal. Looked to see if I knew or recognized any other names. And you really don't. But they all are gambling related, which is so ironic and almost hypocritical in today's world. Look how Rich just started off this segment. How much fun he's having gambling on baseball.
Spot
Yeah.
Rich Davis
And we're still like holding this against these guys. And I get it. They broke rules that applied then. Oh, I understand. Maybe.
Dan Byer
What are the other reasons?
Spot
Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say don't hold it against Benny Kauf. Kavino. Just because he was acquitted on an auto theft charge.
Rich Davis
Y.
Spot
But was still subsequently banned.
Dan Byer
Auto theft.
Spot
And then we all know shuffling. Phil Douglas, right, The old New York Giants player. He was banned after threatening his manager. So that's why he was on the ineligible.
Dan Byer
Shuffling.
Rich Davis
I'm all shuffling. I'm going to go to Chatgpt right now and see if ChatGPT could give rich an old school baseball nickname.
Dan Byer
Please do. Covino's been obsessed with this.
Jason Stewart
It's going to take 4 gallons of water to spit that out.
Rich Davis
I got it.
Spot
I'd call him Scarecrow Rich Davis. That would be kind of mine. Maybe it's more wizard of Oz than anything.
Rich Davis
Can we give radio host Rich Davis an old school baseball nickname?
Dan Byer
Let's see what they come up with.
Rich Davis
Ah, Double Talk Davis.
Dan Byer
See? Oh, there he is.
Rich Davis
Double Talk Davis. Hold on. Look. Perfect for a radio host known for chatting up a storm.
Dan Byer
Double Talk Davis.
Rich Davis
Rich to mouthpiece Davis. Ah. Reflects his role as a vocal personality. Yeah. Hey, there he is. Quick Draw Davis with the double. Quick Draw Davis suggests double talk of the days, double plays at night, and fast talking.
Dan Byer
Oh, there he is.
Rich Davis
Slick Davis with a play at second base. A nod to a smooth talker with charm. Oh, this one. There he is. Step into the plate. Chatterbox Davis. There it is. That's it. I think that's the winner.
Dan Byer
Chatterbox. Chatterbox.
Rich Davis
And era appropriate.
Dan Byer
Look at that.
Rich Davis
Batting. 213. Chatterbox Davis.
Dan Byer
So Shoeless Joe Pete Rose. Now, I'm not saying this because I don't want to get on the bad side of Rob Manford. I don't want any baseball hookups ever taken away from me. But I'm reading a lot of sentiment online. Like, Adam hit us up on X and said, yo, guys, I'm big baseball fans like you. I love mlb. But Rob Manfred is a damn coward. Removing Rose and Shoeless Joe from the ban list because they, quote, are no longer with us and cannot represent a threat to the integrity.
Rich Davis
No threat to the integrity of the game. As the quote goes and as you heard from Dan Byer, it does feel lame and like, yeah, was this really announcement worthy? We all know that. It's like death also eliminates people from life and imprisonment. His lifetime ban was lifted from baseball. Yeah, they're dead.
Dan Byer
And not to care. Not to sound morbid. I joked before and I said, hey, old Barry Bonds should fake his death. Just to know guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, the Rocket. Those guys know now in the back of their head. It sounds terrible, but they're like, I guess when I'm dead, one day, nothing.
Rich Davis
My family.
Dan Byer
My family will get to see this.
Spot
No, that is not correct. Because they are eligible. No one's voting for them.
Dan Byer
That's right.
Spot
This is the stipulation with, with Rose is that it's also not a guarantee that this classic committee, baseball era committee votes Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson. And they still need to be voted in by the Baseball hall of Fame.
Rich Davis
Which is a separate entity as we correct.
Spot
And in 1989 when Rose was given his lifetime ban. There was no ban for the hall of Fame at that time. It only came in 1991, when Rose was first eligible, that the hall of Fame said, well, anybody that's on the permanently ineligible list cannot be enshrined into the hall of Fame. Shoeless Joe Jackson actually was up for enshrinement in the 1930s and 1940s, despite being banned.
Dan Byer
The.
Spot
The ban for the hall of Fame didn't come in until 1991, until after Pete Rose had agreed to his lifetime ban with Bart Giamatti. But Bonds, all of Clemens, Rafael Palmeira, a Rod, all have been on the ballot. Remember, we say they get 38% of the vote, they get 40% of the vote. So they're all clean. They're all clean for to be enshrined.
Dan Byer
Pardon me. Chatterbox Davis got it wrong. A double take for double Talk.
Rich Davis
There he is. Double Talk Davis.
Dan Byer
Yeah.
Rich Davis
He'S of a two today.
Dan Byer
Chatterbox Davis.
Rich Davis
So funny. So to me, it's almost like. Yeah, what would he do? It's almost like you're, you're. You're making the statement for some sort of like, you know what, Rob Manfred, you did the right thing. You. You did nothing. They died.
Dan Byer
I mean, you're not dead.
Rich Davis
Does anything really matter? Like, Rich, you mentioned I'm not in a Union High School hall of Fame.
Dan Byer
Yeah.
Rich Davis
Is it going to mean diddly squat to me if I'm dead? Who cares?
Steve Covino
Yeah. This is like when Kenny Stabler was put into the hall of Fame right after he died. I was like, it sucks the life out of the joy out of it. I mean, it's.
Rich Davis
You're not giving anyone an honor. You're just saying they're dead. So it doesn't matter. You're not giving them anything. They died. There's no more ban lifted. They're obviously not a threat. You know why? Cuz they're dead. It's dumb, the whole thing just.
Steve Covino
What about the family in the organization? Like the Reds?
Rich Davis
I was gonna say that.
Steve Covino
Put out the statement about how happy they were are as an organization.
Rich Davis
You know what? It made them much more happy to see their grandfather and their father and their family member honored when he was alive and when it mattered. So yeah, it might help the family legacy a little bit, but it didn't help anything for Pete Rose. And again, it's. Again it's baseball, dude. It's not like he murdered anybody.
Dan Byer
This guy, this guy here is dead. Cross him off, then.
Rich Davis
Cross him off.
Dan Byer
I, I look at it this way. Covino and I have made it a point over the years, and we try to do this, honor people while they're here. Nothing bothers me more than when some actor, musician, a great athlete, someone dies, and then everyone decides to, as the kids say, give them their flowers. Give them their flowers while they're alive.
Rich Davis
I swear to God, we, we make a deliberate attempt to try to do that every once in a while, whether it be here on Fox Sports Radio or a Patreon show. You'll just have a random thought. You'll appreciate somebody like, you know, I'm gonna write this down because this dude deserves some props or some credit. He's. For too long. He's too great at what he does. No one's going to talk about it until he's dead. Let's talk about him now.
Dan Byer
Yeah.
Rich Davis
So that's why I feel bad about this whole Pete Rose thing. We said it over and over again that he'll be acknowledged once he dies, and it's exactly what happened.
Dan Byer
Is Donald Trump going to try to. Try to take credit for this? Didn't he say, like, early on, like, we're going to get him in?
Rich Davis
Oh, my God, dude. That's a whole other conversation in itself. And again, it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean he's going to be in the, in the hall of Fame, guys. It just means that he's eligible now and that he's no longer banned because he's no longer a threat to the mlb.
Spot
It also, as you, you brought up the point about the families. Yeah, and I know Danny brought up Kenny Stabler, but Kenny Stabler didn't do anything wrong like they should have. They should have enshrined him. Pete Rose did something wrong. And what Major League Baseball is saying is we know that he did something wrong. And if Pete Rose were alive today and we put this into effect, he would not be eligible. He still would be on the permanently ineligible list because he's still alive. The ruling, as Manfred calls it policy, says if you are dead, well, then you're done. You are no longer a threat to the game. You're no longer, you know, could possibly bring any stain to the game. So that's over with. So with that, the end of your life means the end of your sentence, which may give solace to the family or the Reds fans, but doesn't necessarily put Pete Rose or Shoeless Jill Jackson off the hook because they aren't here to sell to be.
Dan Byer
He's only eligible because he's lifeless.
Spot
Joe Jackson. Yes, that is correct.
Rich Davis
And by the way.
Spot
Yes.
Rich Davis
How long the Joe Jackson family had to wait to get this news? How long has that guy been dead for?
Spot
Sure.
Rich Davis
Right? It's ridiculous.
Dan Byer
Probably like the FDR administration.
Rich Davis
It's a weird announcement. You know, that's my feeling.
Jason Stewart
Joe Jackson, how long he's been dead?
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart said he had been dead for 71 years.
Steve Covino
He died December 5, 1951.
Rich Davis
71 years. He's been dead. Guess what?
Jason Stewart
73 years, 74 years.
Rich Davis
Whatever it is, he was no threat 71 years ago, but now we announce it. I guess better late than never.
Jason Stewart
You can't have a death sentence. I mean, you can, you're gonna have a life sentence. And then when you die, was it.
Rich Davis
Eight men out for, for a lifetime and 71 years.
Dan Byer
Now listen again. No, you know, with no disrespect to, you know, victims and major crimes. Right?
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Dan Byer
But you ever see someone in court and they hand down some piece of trash, some real piece of s, like back to back to back all these life sentences and you're like, one's enough.
Rich Davis
What?
Dan Byer
Like, I get it because you want to make sure that the people that were affected have their, their justice, their feeling. But like there are times that it's like 30 years to life for this count. This counts. 30 years and a guy serving like five back to back consecutive life sentence.
Rich Davis
Predicting this guy to live to 300.
Dan Byer
Not gonna live five lives.
Jason Stewart
It's a, it's symbolic. It sends a message.
Dan Byer
No, but I'm saying symbolic. But I, I think there's something, while meaningful to those families.
Rich Davis
They always say banned for what? Banned for life. Right? That's what you would think. So it's implied, isn't it? Implied that when they die, the ban is lifted, but not for Joe Jackson and the other eight guys. It was for life plus 71.
Spot
Manfred said that banned for life was never a part of this. He was the permanently ineligible list now. And that's what he said. They called it policy that now they could be taken off the list and allow this to be put in the hands of the Baseball hall of Fame. I brought this up earlier. I'm going to try it again because it didn't sound right. So maybe I'm going to be double talk Davis here. But earlier today on the network, on Doug's show, the Menendez trial is front and center. Here in Southern California. And I don't know if it's that way across the country, but there is. I think that there are parallels. They may not be exact to what's going on, but again, there was a questioning about the sentencing and how that went down. It was the same thing with Pete Rose where he thought that he would be able to renegotiate his entrance into Major League Baseball after. After a year, but decided to accept this agreement to say that he didn't bet on baseball to stop litigation against the league. Then Bart Giamatti dies. Faye Vincent becomes commissioner and says, well, this is the agreement. You signed it. You said that you are permanently ineligible from Major League Baseball. And it was never moved from that in commissioners after the fact. Did not want to change a commissioner's previous ruling. Manfred even mentioned that in the statement. It's. I mean, I don't know if it's like a game of Cavino's favorite game of Jenga, but there's just a lot of pieces like in and out here and moving around, and somehow or another Manfred's figured out a way to craft this in a way that I don't know, to me kind of makes sense. But I may be trying to take.
Rich Davis
Glory on just a weird announcement, like, see what I did.
Spot
I think that that could, you know, that could be part of it. And a lot of people like you, I think, just don't see right through it.
Rich Davis
It's like a made up valor. It's like, hey, guys, look what I'm doing. And I'm like, okay. But he died. And by the way, speaking of the Menendez brothers, I do love the infamous Menendez brother Mark Jackson basketball card. Have you ever seen that?
Spot
Yeah. NBA hoops.
Rich Davis
NBA hoops, 1990. It's Mark Jackson throwing a pass, but the Menendez brothers are sitting right there courtside.
Steve Covino
I have this card in my collection. I have it. Yep.
Rich Davis
Yeah, that's a classic. It's a weird one. All right, let's get to the phone calls on this because it is a big, big breaking story today. Pete Rose off the ineligible list, along with the other Black Sox guys and other gambling stories. And who do we got, rich?
Dan Byer
Let's say I had a Brooklyn and Bruno. What's up, Bruno?
Caller
Seeing our boys. I love you guys. Hey, I. This is near and dear to my heart. I honestly believe this is such a really bad thing, Pete, you know, to put him in, or if they're considering putting him in after the fact, keep him out. You know what I mean? They shouldn't they shouldn't put him in posthumously. It really isn't right. The other players, the Black Sox guys, I can understand that. But just think about the environment we live in today with legalized gambling. I mean, don't all these players that are still right now, I mean, NFL, NBA, these guys gamble on their phones every day now, that being said, it is. It just. It's window dressing. It's terrible now because you know what? Just leave. I'd rather see him be left out. It's Susan Lucci.
Dan Byer
Don't give him the award.
Rich Davis
It's almost a sympathy thing.
Dan Byer
It's almost better. It's almost insulting. It's almost better off leaving him out. I agree. You know what?
Steve Covino
It's like, that's a great call, you know?
Jason Stewart
Agreed.
Dan Byer
Great call, that is.
Rich Davis
You could feel and see right through the tomfoolery that it's just disingenuous. It feels odd, like, enforced, especially the current.
Dan Byer
Like I said, we. We started the segment, me talking about how I'm loving doing the DraftKings pick six. And, you know, gambling in sports, wagering is a part of life now. It's almost like that poor.
Rich Davis
And guess what? Rose was around while the explosion happened.
Dan Byer
And let me tell you, it's also. It's like that sad story of, like, a guy that's sitting in jail because he had a joint on him and he got arrested for weed. Meanwhile, like, everywhere you go, there's, you know, shop. Weed legal shops everywhere.
Jason Stewart
So Bruno's saying it's sending a bad message at this time, right?
Dan Byer
Yeah, it's. It's a weird. It's a mixed message, Kurt. Actually, let's go to Mitchell first. He's been on hold for a while. Thanks, Mitchell.
Rich Davis
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Dan Byer
Buddy, what's up?
Corbin
Hey, what's up, guys? Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, blank. Major League Baseball. And they can shove that lift up their football pass because to me, I.
Spot
Mean, you know, you had to know.
Corbin
The man didn't have much life left. They could have took that up a year or so ago.
Spot
They're not doing it now for his.
Corbin
Career or anything else. They're doing it to make themselves feel better.
Rich Davis
So.
Corbin
Yeah.
Rich Davis
Yeah. I mean, I feel that the announcement on this random Tuesday, a day before Pete Rose Day, does make you feel that way. It does.
Dan Byer
Pete Rose legend, Shoeless Joe Jackson, legend. Will they be in the hall of Fame in two years when the committee votes? Probably. Kurt and Penn. What's up, Kurt?
Corbin
Going on, guys. I love your show.
Dan Byer
Oh, thank you, man.
Rich Davis
Thank you, man.
Corbin
Yeah, no, so I'm probably. You're not gonna like me. I. I was so happy when I heard the news today about all this, to be honest. I understand Pete Rose is T. Rose and as a person and everything else, but the fact that he owns the record and there's. I hate, like the steroid guys, but he just was Charlie Hustle.
Rich Davis
Hey, dude, we're not. We're not saying we're mad at. At this. We're mad at how it was handled.
Dan Byer
Yeah, yeah.
Rich Davis
No, we all love Pete Rose.
Dan Byer
Yeah. I just think it should have. I think it should have happened while he was alive. I hope you're not misunderstanding, Kurt. I like Pete Rose. I think he should be in.
Corbin
Wish that it would have happened. I feel like people should be alive when they go into hall of Fame. Like, I'm like, more stoked about the Shoeless Joe Jackson thing.
Dan Byer
Yeah, he's. He's smiling down somewhere. 71 years later.
Rich Davis
Chantix.
Spot
So if. If Pete Rose is put on this ballot that's going to be voted on by the Classic Baseball Era Committee in December of 2027, this would be the class. Just some of the names that he would go in because remember, there's always headliners. Right? It would be Albert Pujols, Robinson Cano, Yadier Molina, Steven Strasberg, David Price, Lorenzo Kane, Some of the names that would be up that year. Pujols in for sure.
Dan Byer
I'm just laughing, dad, because I'm thinking there'll be one writer that's like Shoeless Joe Jackson. I mean, he's not a first ballot guy.
Spot
It's the same thing. Like, it's. But like, when, you know, you would think it would be what a weekend it would be for Albert Pujols, which would then be completely overshadowed by Pete Rose getting in at that point.
Dan Byer
That's true.
Rich Davis
But an honor.
Shaquille O'Neal
No.
Rich Davis
To be inducted with those names, that's kind of cool.
Dan Byer
All right, well, hey, we're going to do a little Shaq Diesel trivia coming up. And you know what? I got a question for you that'll take 10 seconds in your lifetime because we brought up the great Bartlett Giamatti. Can you name the commissioners of baseball since you've been alive? Let's go from. We'll just say roughly 1980 till now.
Rich Davis
Can you know Frank White? No, I mean, Bill White. Yeah, he's one of them.
Dan Byer
Bill White, Yeah. No.
Rich Davis
What? Yes, he was on the baseballs.
Dan Byer
Bill White.
Rich Davis
I don't know.
Spot
I think he was a National League. He was American and National League.
Dan Byer
Bill White was a. Yeah, a National League guy. I don't know, but I'll go in reverse.
Steve Covino
Troy Vincent, right?
Spot
Troy Vincent.
Dan Byer
Fay Vincent.
Steve Covino
I'm sorry.
Dan Byer
Football player in our life. If you. Let's say you were born around 1980. Bowie Kent Coon.
Rich Davis
No, I wouldn't remember.
Dan Byer
And then it was Peter Orburath.
Spot
Uberath.
Dan Byer
Uber.
Steve Covino
Oh, yeah.
Dan Byer
Now here's where I remember. Giamatti, Faye Vincent, Bud Selig, Rob Manfred, obviously. Yeah. Who was it before? In the NFL, who was it before? Roger Goodell, Paul Tagley, Abu Paul Tagliebu.
Spot
Before that, Pete Roselle.
Dan Byer
There you go. You know what? I should have known that. All right, hey, we got more Covino and Rich next, right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Steve Covino
No, because we were. You were doing trivia at the end of this last segment. Yes. Well, you need to give the phone number right now.
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So while the phones are being answered by Danny G. We'll get a contestant in one minute. In the meantime, Dan Byers got an update. DB what up?
Spot
Yes, fellas, the breaking news of the day. It's been a bunch of it, but Major League Baseball has ended the lifetime bans of 17 deceased individuals, including Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson, taking the players off of the permanently ineligible list. Major League Bish. Major League Commissioner Rob Manfred issued a statement calling the move a policy issue, stating the permanent ineligibility ends upon the passing of the disciplined individual. The hall of Fame is out of bas baseball's hands. It's now in the hands of the Baseball hall of Fame in Cooperstown as the Historical Overview Committee will develop a ballot of eight names for the Classic Baseball Era Committee to vote on when it next meets in December of 2027. So the earliest that Pete Rose or Shoeless Joe Jackson or any of the 15 others could be enshrined into the Baseball hall of Fame in Cooperstown is the summer of 2028.
Rich Davis
Dan, sorry to interrupt. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it sounds. It's like it sounds like it's about Rob Manfred, not about Pete Rose or any of these other guys. Because if someone was in prison, let's say they were in prison for a lifetime, lifetime in prison and evidence came out and it proved them innocent. You know what?
Steve Covino
We were wrong.
Rich Davis
They still spent their life in prison. What difference does it make after they're dead? None.
Dan Byer
None, none, none. And by the way, I heard Elon Musk said they're all still collecting Social Security. Is that true? All 17.
Rich Davis
You know what? DNA proves them innocent. So we reinstate their innocence.
Dan Byer
Yeah, but they're dead.
Rich Davis
Who cares?
Dan Byer
Yeah. True.
Spot
In other baseball news, Twins and Orioles postponed tonight, as are the Cardinals and Phillies. Cleveland's up on Milwaukee early one nothing. Celtics forward Jason Tatum underwent successful surgery to repair his torn right Achilles. Tended after suffering the injury in Last night's Game 4. Lost to the Knicks tonight. Pacers and Cavs, 7 o' clock Eastern. Nuggets and Thunder, 9:30 Eastern Time in their game fives. Portland Trailblazers are up for sale. Schedule leaks in the NFL include the Vikings and Steelers playing in Dublin, Ireland. Then the following week the Vikings and Browns play in London. How about Madrid? Spain is the Commanders and dolphins. November 16th. That's week 11, guys. Back to you, DB.
Dan Byer
I'll be honest with you. My 49ers are getting no love. Not from you. I'm saying in general, is the sentiment that they're, they're, they've fallen off.
Spot
That much we know like five games of the Eagles right now and we don't know anything of the 49ers. We don't know anything of the Lions. We don't know anything of the Buccaneers.
Dan Byer
I guess you're right. There's other teams. But the 49ers still have like an 11 over under win total in Vegas. Like the 49ers lost some players, but they're still the 49ers.
Rich Davis
I don't know.
Dan Byer
I feel insulted.
Spot
In due time, we shall see.
Dan Byer
All right, you know what? We're going to play a little Shaq Diesel trivia to wrap up the show in a little bit. But let me just read a quick little article. I saw this favors all of us in the room and then we'll play when we get back. I. What?
Shaquille O'Neal
Did you really read it or you.
Rich Davis
Just saw the headline?
Dan Byer
I just saw the headline. But it said this is an article from Vogue magazine. I know you love Vogue. It said gen Xers are the coolest generation. And I'll just read one line and it sort of sums it all up. It says that over the past few years, you have Gen Z hating on millennials for being cringe. You have millennials hating on Gen Z for being just little piece of trash. Everyone hates boomers. But if you're roughly 40 and you're gen X, no one seems to hate on you.
Rich Davis
Go with that.
Dan Byer
Being Gen X where it is. I like it where it's at.
Rich Davis
It's like you're somewhere in the middle.
Dan Byer
No doubt. I listen. Shaq Diesel trivia we play next. We got your contestants lined up right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hang tight.
Spot
Oh.
Rich Davis
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Dan Byer
No diggity. No doubt. Now, before we do Shaq Diesel trivia, New York Duke online one says he has an explanation, a quick Ray Liotta story. I mean, the more the most popular guy from Union, New Jersey, Ray Liotta. And then it's what, Artie Langham and.
Rich Davis
Then Steve Covino and then Robert Wolf and then Steve Covino. Maybe somewhere down there.
Steve Covino
Yeah, he came up on the show today because of Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Rich Davis
Yeah, he played Shoeless Joe and Field of Dreams. What's up, man?
Corbin
Well, I've got that. I've got a story for you really quickly. I met Ray Liotta briefly for an afternoon. My best friend at the time was an actress named Gina Mastro Giacomo. She played Janice Rossi in Goodfellas, in the Gumad.
Rich Davis
In apartment 8C or whatever it is.
Corbin
Exactly, exactly. And as part of the, you know, basically encouragement for Scorsese, they encouraged those guys, Ray and my friend Gina, you know, like, spend some time together. So we lived up on West 82nd street, and Ray came over to the apartment. It was about this time at that, I want to say about 1989. And he was the most amazing, wonderful person. He was in between, obviously, Fields of Dreams and Goodfellas. But we spent the afternoon watching playoff basketball on the couch and talking to me, and I'm a Jersey. He mentioned he was from Union, New Jersey.
Shaquille O'Neal
That's right.
Corbin
And I'm from Randolph, New Jersey.
Rich Davis
Football rivals connection. Yep.
Corbin
Just wanted to say yes, a very cool story.
Rich Davis
Chantix. Chantix. Thanks for sharing, man. And by the way, correction. Janice Rossi lived in apartment 2R. 2R.
Dan Byer
So what girl did you call a hoe in the background?
Rich Davis
I was bringing someone else's bill.
Dan Byer
All right, well, you want to get a contestant here for Shaq Diesel Trivia? Let's go.
Steve Covino
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're about to name drop.
Dan Byer
I'll name drop.
Rich Davis
Oh, my goodness.
Steve Covino
Not only are CNR friends with Tyson and Mahomes.
Rich Davis
Hey, man.
Steve Covino
They're also buddies with the Big Aristotle.
Shaquille O'Neal
What's up? It's big Shaq Diesel, AKA Shaq Fu, AKA Shaq Daddy, AKA the Big Aristotle. Guess what? It's time to win some C and R prizes.
Steve Covino
Time for some basketball trivia.
Shaquille O'Neal
Basketball trivia.
Steve Covino
What he said.
Shaquille O'Neal
I used to break bad boys. Now I'm breaking records for FSL ratings.
Rich Davis
Shaq Diesel basketball trivia.
Steve Covino
All right, FSR security walking our Broke Shaq Fu into the main studio. Sorry to make you wait.
Shaquille O'Neal
Dude, got me waiting here. I'm a busy, busy man.
Dan Byer
Shaq, Danny G said you're no longer the most popular NBA legend. That's a broadcaster.
Shaquille O'Neal
That's fool's time. Say that he's following in my footsteps. My big footsteps. Michael Jordan wishes he was me.
Steve Covino
Let's meet the contestants.
Shaquille O'Neal
Michael Jordan trying to be like me.
Steve Covino
10 time winner. Double talk. Davis, right over there.
Shaquille O'Neal
Space Jam was not as good as Kazam.
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Shaquille O'Neal
Now he's trying to get in the booth like me.
Rich Davis
It's not wrong.
Steve Covino
Four time winner, Spotty boy. Hey, what's up today, Spotty? I'll use you for this. Would you love to travel to beautiful Tulsa, Oklahoma?
Rich Davis
Okay.
Steve Covino
Waterloo, Iowa? Spokane, Washington.
Rich Davis
All right.
Steve Covino
Roanoke, Virginia.
Rich Davis
Roanoke.
Steve Covino
Or Miami, Florida?
Rich Davis
I'm a huge fan of the song Waterloo by Abba.
Dan Byer
Yeah, but you also. But you also like Tulsa spelled backwards.
Rich Davis
Stop.
Steve Covino
Oh, that's tough.
Dan Byer
Stop it.
Steve Covino
Go with Waterloo. All right. That is Corbin.
Rich Davis
Don't think that didn't cross my mind.
Steve Covino
By the way, Corbin, what's up? What do you do for a living there in Iowa?
Corbin
I'm a truck driver.
Rich Davis
Nice, man. Love it.
Dan Byer
Keeps America running. Truck drivers, man.
Steve Covino
Here are the rules for Shaq Diesel Trivia. The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's a tie, we have a tiebreaker question. Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move on to the next question. Are you ready? Yes.
Rich Davis
Let's get it on.
Shaquille O'Neal
I've been ready, but you had me sitting around waiting.
Steve Covino
I know.
Spot
All right, come on.
Shaquille O'Neal
All right, let's get this party started. In the Knicks Celtics series, how many of their first 103 point attempts did the Celtics miss? How many of their. Okay, hold on. Is it A82, B75 or C67?
Steve Covino
Well, Corbin spoke up. Corbin got to say your name. You got to wait till all three possible answers are read. Okay? Okay, so we'll just say Corbin, Corbin. Which one? A, B or C?
Corbin
B 75.
Rich Davis
Yes.
Steve Covino
Corbin on the board. Boom.
Dan Byer
How did he know that he didn't need multiple choice.
Steve Covino
Oh, crazy when you get it.
Shaquille O'Neal
Like I gotta say kazam. With authority. Say with authority.
Steve Covino
All right, halfway to a swiggy as we move on to round number two.
Shaquille O'Neal
Round two. What was I once quoted saying about leadership?
Rich Davis
Okay.
Shaquille O'Neal
Michael Jordan has none. Just kidding.
Steve Covino
When you fly, this is actually about flopping.
Shaquille O'Neal
When you flop that's just another message that you don't know how to play.
Rich Davis
Me.
Shaquille O'Neal
Stand up and take your medicine like a man. Oh, baby. I've never seen Michael Jordan flop, so I don't want to hear how it's only a problem with today's players.
Steve Covino
Wait, no, no, no. You read your own quote wrong.
Shaquille O'Neal
What do you mean I read it wrong? I've seen. I've.
Steve Covino
I've even seen.
Shaquille O'Neal
I've even seen Michael Jordan flop. Sorry, I don't have my glasses on, so I don't want to hear how it's only a problem with today's players. Or c. Flopping is for suckers who should be flipping flapjacks.
Rich Davis
Oh, Spot, spot.
Shaquille O'Neal
What was that quoted saying about leadership?
Rich Davis
Was it flop, floppers, or for suckers?
Dan Byer
Flapjacks.
Rich Davis
Flipping flapjacks.
Spot
I like that one.
Shaquille O'Neal
Oh, man, you're wrong.
Rich Davis
That was a good quote, though.
Dan Byer
Corbin.
Steve Covino
Corbin, for the steal.
Rich Davis
A. A. Yes.
Dan Byer
Yes.
Rich Davis
Oh, when did you say it? So you gotta take a Zam.
Shaquille O'Neal
Gotta take a Sam Kazam. We know it was better than Space Jam.
Steve Covino
Yeah, you said when I'm a true Foo Snick. Oh, nice. Yeah, when you flop, that's just another message that you don't know how to play. Shaq, stand up and take your medicine like a man.
Shaquille O'Neal
Let me guess. Next, Michael Jordan is going to want to rap. Michael Jordan's going to want a dj. He's going to want to be an Icy Hot. He's trying to be like Shaq Diesel.
Dan Byer
Oh, he's going to also try to do a meme of him or a gif of him.
Rich Davis
Shimmy.
Shaquille O'Neal
He's trying to do the shimmy just like me.
Rich Davis
Don't you own a bunch of Papa John's?
Spot
I hear he's buying up dominoes, trying.
Shaquille O'Neal
To do franchises, trying to be like Shaquille. Hey, congratulations.
Steve Covino
Yeah, Great job, Corbin. Two in a row for the W. Great job means we're going to send out a shiny new CNR watch water bottle to Waterloo, Iowa.
Dan Byer
There you go, Iowa. Awesome.
Shaquille O'Neal
Congratulations. All right, guys, enjoy the games tonight.
Dan Byer
Tulsa, Iowa.
Shaquille O'Neal
Enjoy your NBA. All right, later, guys. I'm busy later.
Jason Stewart
Thanks, Shaq. I had to go back and spell Tulsa backwards and see what that read.
Dan Byer
Out, but did you just figure that out?
Steve Covino
You did.
Spot
Did you hear him laugh?
Jason Stewart
That's why I was laughing.
Shaquille O'Neal
I wrote it out.
Jason Stewart
And because I couldn't think in my head, and I was like, oh, you. You pee brain.
Dan Byer
I knew that's why you left the Iowa job. You just played. That's Dan Patrick Correct.
Rich Davis
It is.
Dan Byer
And.
Jason Stewart
Oh yes. Yeah, Iowa, there he is. And you have some maybe some DP news, right?
Dan Byer
Well, we're going to be filling in for Dan Patrick on Friday morning. So I will be there Friday morning in for the great Dan Patrick.
Steve Covino
Thanks for the warning.
Rich Davis
Remember when I said I was watching I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry. They've seen that in a long time. When's the last time you saw that movie?
Dan Byer
Probably in the 2000s.
Rich Davis
It's now available on Netflix or whatever. So I was watching it. Dan Patrick also in that movie. He's in many Sandler movies. But it was cool to see him in that. It's a wild movie, I think. I think a forgotten classic from Sandler. And Kevin James worth the watch. I forgot all about that. But yes. Listen out on Friday when we get you ready for the weekend with weekend hobnobbing and what else are we doing on Friday? I feel like we have a new Friday spectacular.
Steve Covino
Yeah, we've been playing Steve Covino or Bill Belichick.
Rich Davis
Oh yeah, I was trying to forget that. So yeah, that's in for Dan Patrick on Friday. And then tomorrow Fox Sports Radio Nation regular show, regular time. But we get you ready for your hump day midweek major. We do it every Wednesday. The biggest stories in sports and pop culture are they mid week or major?
Dan Byer
Well, hey, tonight you gearing up for anything you watch in the other Yanks on tonight or what?
Rich Davis
Yeah, Yank Seattle. Gotta play for Oswaldo Cabrera. Poor kid, tough injury.
Dan Byer
Let's not forget they put him on.
Rich Davis
The 10 day DLC. Honestly, that's like a season ender. It looked like an ankle fracture but it spun around.
Steve Covino
You guys think the Cavs are going to. I was get that W tonight.
Dan Byer
Just looking is Donovan Mitchell out? Is that that. That's the determining factor.
Rich Davis
If he. I mean either way, the Pacers. You have to assume Pacers got this right. 3 1. And then you get the Pacers, Knicks. That would be. That's the dope series right there. Yeah, but I think it takes you back to nostalgia times.
Dan Byer
Let's not forget we have a big game five tonight. Tied up two games apiece. Nuggies at Thunder. And the world seems to think the Thunder has us under control.
Steve Covino
10 1/2 point favorite update 17 minutes ago on all star guard Spider Mitchell. He's going to be available to face the Pacers.
Dan Byer
Well, that would insinuate why they are eight and a half point favorites. So the Cavs are big favorites tonight. Same with the Thunder. So some NBA action tonight, some baseball, like every night. And hey, hopefully you enjoy anything else you ever need. You can always reach out. Covino and Rich. And just a reminder before we get out of here, we're putting the final touches on our June 20th to 22nd party in Las Vegas.
Rich Davis
This is your invite.
Dan Byer
All you got to do, make sure you're there. And very soon, we'll give you details. There's going to be events from pool parties live broadcast, a lot of fun stuff. So meet some people June 20th to the 22nd. Book it. We'll see you until tomorrow. Arrived at you, baby.
Rich Davis
See you in the promised land. And later, guys, you're listening to an iHeart podcast.
Episode: Hour 2 - Would Pete Rose Want This?
Release Date: May 14, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
The episode kicks off with the hosts, Steve Covino, Rich Davis, Dan Byer, and Jason Stewart, briefly promoting their show and encouraging listeners to tune in live or stream through the iHeartRadio app. The initial moments are filled with light banter and promotional content, which the summary will omit to focus on the core discussions.
At [02:18], Rich Davis shares breaking news that MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred has removed Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson from the league's permanently ineligible list, effectively reinstating them. Rich reflects on the historical significance, especially regarding Shoeless Joe Jackson's legacy:
“Shoeless Joe Jackson, legend. We know the story. We've seen. Feel the dreams.” — Rich Davis [02:48]
The discussion delves into the implications of this decision, comparing it to the infamous Black Sox scandal depicted in the movie Eight Men Out. Dan Byer references the historical context:
“Most of them are Black Sox that played with Shoeless Joe Jackson. The guys with the shoes.” — Dan Byer [04:25]
Rich questions the timing and rationale behind the reinstatement, given that Shoeless Joe Jackson has been deceased for over 70 years:
“He was no threat 71 years ago, but now we announce it. I guess better late than never.” — Rich Davis [14:36]
Spot (Jason Stewart) explains that the reinstatement policy moves these players into the Baseball Hall of Fame’s consideration:
“The Historical Overview Committee will develop a ballot of eight names for the Classic Baseball Era Committee to vote on when it next meets in December of 2027.” — Spot [06:13]
Rich expresses skepticism about the decision, comparing it to posthumous exonerations that hold no real impact:
“They still spent their life in prison. What difference does it make after they're dead? None.” — Rich Davis [28:00]
Several callers express their opinions on the reinstatement. Bruno voices strong opposition, emphasizing the perceived hypocrisy in MLB’s stance on gambling:
“They shouldn't put him in posthumously. It really isn't right.” — Caller Bruno [18:41]
Another caller, Corbin, supports the reinstatement and praises Pete Rose’s legacy:
“I was so happy when I heard the news today about all this... I think he should be in.” — Caller Corbin [21:14]
The hosts collectively agree that the decision feels disingenuous and question the timing, especially since Pete Rose has long been deceased.
Rich Davis highlights the irony of MLB’s move given the current landscape of legalized sports gambling, which he’s personally engaged in:
“Look how Rich just started off this segment. How much fun he's having gambling on baseball.” — Rich Davis [06:42]
Dan Byer adds to the conversation by comparing the MLB’s decision to outdated punitive measures:
“It's a weird announcement. It just does nothing for Pete Rose or the other guys.” — Dan Byer [28:05]
Amidst the heavy discussion, the hosts engage in a playful segment where they attempt to create old-school baseball nicknames for each other. This lightens the mood and showcases their camaraderie:
“Chatterbox Davis. It’s almost a nostalgia thing.” — Rich Davis [08:18]
The episode transitions into an entertaining trivia segment featuring Shaquille O'Neal as a special guest. Contestants Corbin and others participate, answering questions related to basketball and sports trivia. Highlights include:
Question Example:
“In the Knicks Celtics series, how many of their first 103 point attempts did the Celtics miss? A82, B75 or C67?”
Corbin answers B75 correctly at [35:30].
Shaq’s Remarks:
“I've been ready, but you had me sitting around waiting.” — Shaquille O'Neal [34:57]
The segment concludes with Corbin winning the trivia round, earning a prize:
“Great job, Corbin. Two in a row for the W.” — Steve Covino [37:33]
The hosts provide updates on various sports events, including:
Dan Byer humorously laments the lack of attention to his favored team, the 49ers:
“I feel insulted. Not from you. I'm saying in general, is the sentiment that they're, they've fallen off.” — Dan Byer [29:00]
As the episode winds down, the hosts briefly mention upcoming events, including a party in Las Vegas from June 20th to 22nd, and tease future shows and segments. They also perform brief promotional reads for Express Employment Professionals and Travis Matthew Apparel, which are part of their regular sponsorship segments.
The episode primarily revolves around the controversial reinstatement of Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson to MLB’s eligible list, sparking intense discussion among the hosts and their listeners. Balancing this heavy topic, the podcast incorporates light-hearted segments like trivia and nickname creation, providing a well-rounded and engaging listening experience for both regular fans and new listeners.
Notable Quotes:
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and interactions from the episode, providing a clear and engaging overview for those who haven't listened to the podcast.