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Defense, I'd shop around TJ Watt.
Colin Cowherd
He's mostly healthy, great lineage in the family. He's a great player. Eric Mangini disagrees with me, but my take is they've got so much money on defense. If you can get a couple of second round picks, I'd go for it. Well, now there are stories that the Steelers are at least, you know, taking phone calls. Albert Brear joins us live. Listen, if you look at the division with Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, obviously Cleveland's going to go and they got two first rounders. They're going for a quarterback next year. You're kind of unsettled at quarterback. My take is there's about, I said this yesterday, Albert. There's about seven quarterbacks, there's about eight left tackles and about five or five or six defensive linemen, mostly young. Jalen Carter, Jared Verse, Miles Garrett's not young that I just, I'm not taking a phone call on.
Albert Breer
Parsons.
Colin Cowherd
I take a phone call on Micah Parsons because I'm overpaying Dak. So my take is 30 year old TJ Watt. Yeah, I'm going to take a phone call. What are your thoughts on this?
Albert Breer
I think it would make sense if they were in a different spot as a team, but so much of the idea of just acquiring Aaron Rodgers in the first place was tied to getting the most out of the core that they had in place and they've been competitive with over the last few years. And like it would just the idea of trading for draft picks would fly in the face of why you acquired Rogers in the first place. You know, so I think if they were again, if they had made decision that say like Miami made to retool the way that the Miami has this off season or the way San Francisco has retooled this off season, you might look at it as an opportunity to get a lot of capital back and really kind of juice, you know, a rebuild or a retooling of your roster. But that's not the spot Pittsburgh's in right now. And so, you know, I, I just look at, at that roster and I see Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay and Aaron Rodgers and even DK Metcalf as an older 27 year old because he's on his third contract now, and he's been a little beat up. Cam Hayward's at the very end of his career. You just look around there, and it's like, well, why do you have all those guys in the first place if you're going to get rid of the best one of them, you know? So I think the spot the Steelers are in right now, they need T.J. watt, and I think the.
Colin Cowherd
The.
Albert Breer
The presence of Aaron Rodgers is something that. That. That wat's been waiting for since the retirement of Ben Roethlisberger. So I. I think it's one of those situations where you could see where if one or the other were in a different spot, a trade would make sense. This would make sense, a point to separate. But I think the two of them, as it stands right now, need each other too much not to find a way to get something done.
Colin Cowherd
So. So why are the Jets. They just gave a new contract to Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson. What. What is the message the jets are sending? Why now? I get the players, but what's the message?
Albert Breer
Well, both those guys had a really strong spring, you know, and I think there's a message there that we are going to reward people who do it the right way. And I think for Aaron Glenn and for Darren Moshe, their new general manager, coming in there, that's an important thing. If you buy into the way that we're doing things, you don't need to be our draft picks, you don't need to be our signings. And, you know, it's interesting because I think when. When Aaron Glenn got to the Lions, for the most part, they just brought in new guys, but there were guys they held on to that became foundation pieces for him. Right? Taylor Decker, the left tackle, Frank Ragnow, was somebody that they inherited. And so you see a bunch of guys that could be that for the jets going forward. That's not a roster devoid of talent. There's the basis of a really good defense. Quinn and Williams, Jermaine Johnson, you know, Quincy Williams, Sauce Gardner. On the offensive side of the ball, you got Garrett Wilson, you got Olu Fashano, you got Oliveira Tucker, you got Breeze Hall. These are all guys that the new regime inherited. So if you want to get those guys on board, you know what you do, you get through the spring, you say, we really believe in your talent now. We believe in the person, and we're going to go and reward you. And I think Wilson and Sauce are the first two examples of it.
Colin Cowherd
Hey, there was. There are. You know, this is the silly season that, you know, little breadcrumbs of information leak out. And I saw the Nick Saban rumors. Lane Kiffin knows him well. I think he'll come back. And I don't think. I think NFL football is actually easier to coach as long as you don't get a crazy owner. And I also think because of the nil, you can't just fire coaches like you used to. Teams are going to boosters. They need 15 to 18 million for nil money. They're not paying 62 million to get rid of Brian Kelly or 70 million to get rid of Lincoln Riley. So there's not going to be any openings at the best positions. And Ryan Day is not going anywhere and Dan Lanning's crushing it and Sark's doing well and there's not. And Kaylin DeBoer is going to turn it around this year. Do you think somebody would take a call on Saban in the NFL?
Albert Breer
You mean somebody would make a call on Saban?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, right.
Albert Breer
Yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, I do. I think. I mean, it's been, what I think now, 18 years since Saban left the Dolphins to go to go to Alabama. And one thing I've learned in covering the league over all that time is no one thought the guy couldn't coach. Like the idea that the guy couldn't scheme at an NFL level, couldn't lead at an NFL level, that, that was, had zero to do with why it didn't work. It was because of the program and it was, it was demanding. And the quarterback situation didn't, didn't work out. And because of the way he had his program set up back then, it was sort of this old school type of, of deal where if you don't win quickly, if you don't give players results quickly, they're going to tire of that pretty quickly. And what have we seen Nick do over the last 17, 18 years? He constantly adapts. You know, like what a Nick Saban team was in 2008 and 2009 was way different than the teams that he had when Jerry Judy and Devonte Smith were running all over the place. You know what I mean? So he's adaptable. He's a really good football coach. He's well respected. I think it'd be a little bit like Belichick in this way and almost like when Tom Brady was a free agent, right? It would be a very narrow group of teams that would be looking at the idea of, of, of hiring him. Like you need to have a quarterback, you need to Live in a part, need to be in a part of the country he was comfortable with, and you would need to have a win now roster. But if you have those three things in place, I mean, like, he's around the same age as Pete Carroll. So if you're an owner looking for credibility, it makes sense to hire Nick Saban. Like, if you've lost credibility in your market and you feel like you've not, you've got to find a way to get it back fast. Hiring Nick Saban could be a way to do that, and maybe it would, for all the reasons you laid out. The difference between college and the pros appeal to Nick to come to the NFL.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, I'm going to throw this at you, Albert, and you have a sense of history.
Albert Breer
Yep.
Colin Cowherd
So he's the greatest college football coach of all time. He goes to ESPN for a couple years and he's been an absolute home run as an analyst. Got a little itch and there's. He's not going to Jacksonville, but Brian Schottenheimer is over his skis and Jerry Jones says, I don't, I don't want one of these NFL egos. I, you know what Jerry likes to do? He likes to hire guys where they feel like they owe him a little. And Jerry could go to Saban and go, okay, this Schottenheimer thing doesn't work. Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts. I need a guy that knows college personnel. I'm just saying Dallas, I don't think Saban would go to New York, but if you're talking about guy, just, just ego. Best college coach ever. Absolute five star analyst on tv. He's not challenged. He's still youthful, sharp as attack. The Dallas Cowboys call. He's not taking that call.
Albert Breer
It makes some sense for sure. You know, and I guess geographically, it's not all that far from where he, where he put down roots over the last, you know, two decades. I mean, the Giants are always going to be interesting because, as you know, I'm sure Colin, like the Maras were fascinated with Nick, and I think there was a point in the 90s where they were trying to hire him from Michigan State. So they've had an interest in him going back that far. Right. Like, so I think it's the first one that NFL people always consider is like, would the Giants do it? Because there was that interest about 20 years ago. The Cowboys are interesting because they do have a lot of win now elements. And he could come in there and, and really go into a place that's set up for a strong coach. And it's interesting because I think, you know, like, the one thing about Dallas that people misunderstand is, yes, Jerry's involved in football, but the coach is involved in scouting, too. Like, the coach is involved in putting the team together, and that's always been the way that it's been run there and in that, like, they've got a really good personnel department. Will McClay does a great job, but they've always involved the coach and how the team is put together. I think it's why they've been able to put some really coherent rosters over the last 20 years. You know, really going back to when Parcells was there. The one question for me is the spotlight factor. Right? And I think if Jerry was going to do this, part of it would be, are you willing to take a backseat and move away from the spotlight for a little bit to see if Nick Saban can come and do it? But for a lot of different reasons, it does make sense. So, look, I think Schottenheimer is going to do a better job than most people do. But, I mean, I. I just think if you. If you want to line the whole thing up and say he needs to go to a brand name, you know, he needs to go to one of the flagship franchises, the part of the country that it's in and the way they're set up, I could see Saban working. Working in Dallas.
Colin Cowherd
I. I think quite. I know this is a wacky topic, Albert, but I think quietly, Nick Saban thinks he's a better coach than Belichick. And if Belichick goes to. So Belichick can't win without Brady goes to Carolina, it doesn't go well. Nick goes to the NFL, Greatest college coach ever. Unbelievable media star. And wins and resurrects Dallas. I think Nick deep down thinks, hell, I would have won in Miami if the. If the doctor would have said okay with Drew Brees. And I think Nick is so hyper competitive. It sticks in his craw. I really do. And I don't think it's crazy. I don't think it's nuts. There you go. I'm nuts. Whatever. I don't care.
Albert Breer
Like. Like, just from an NFL reporter standpoint, please come, Nick. I would. I would. I would love to have Nick Saban. I mean, that storyline would be unbelievable. I don't care what team he's with. Like, the idea of having Nick Saban back in the NFL just to see if it would work because he, like, look, like, I don't think Like, I remember as a kid, like, looking back at John Wood, right. And thinking to myself, like, you looked at. And I obviously wasn't born when Wooden was coaching, but you looked at that track record of success at UCLA as a basketball coach, said, no one's ever going to do that again. And Saban more or less did at Alabama. Maybe not quite the number of championship, but as far as, like a run of dominance, like, I feel like Saban was almost like John Wooden. So, I mean, of course, I think, like, it'd be fascinating to see what Nick Saban could do if he got another run at the NFL. And I do. I would say this. Like, I. I mean, the players are thoroughly prepared for the league that come out of that program. I mean, that was always the thing with him was like, there were two things about Nick Saban program. Nick Saban players coming out of Alabama, they were beat up because they played a physical style and practices were tough and they were maxed out. And that was actually a compliment to Saban and saying, Nick got everything he possibly could out of every player. So the NFL people all had great respect for him. And. And again, it was like his failure in Miami. I think he'd be hard pressed to find a single person in the NFL who would say he didn't win in Miami because he wasn't a good enough coach.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. By the way, we just spent eight minutes on something that may never come to fruition. And I know I took a detour. I'm fascinated by it because I think Nick deep down wants to be mentioned in the Andy Reid Belichick group. And I did like Jim Harbaugh. Oh, he's a Michigan man. He wanted these hyper, competitive guys, Harbaugh, even at Michigan, the minute he had an opportunity. Justin Herbert's available.
Albert Breer
Well, no, that. That loss to his brother in the super bowl stuck with him. Like you wouldn't. I mean, it's. Yeah, he was right there at the mountaintop, and it stuck with him. And the one thing the Michigan job wasn't going to get him was the chance to make that right. And I mean, I think in the same sort of way, the picking Dante Culpepper over Drew brees thing in 2006 has stuck with Nick Saban. I mean, you remember Colin, they were. That was a promising team coming out of the 05 season. A lot of people thought, like, if Dante Culpepper hit and he was the player that he had been a few years earlier, that team could have been in the Super Bowl. And obviously it came undone. But yeah, I think Nick probably, I think Nick looks at the, the, the decision, the quarterback decision of 2006, the same way that Jim Harbaugh looks back at that Super bowl in 2012.
Colin Cowherd
I'm going to keep this tape. Let's archive this, guys, because we may, we may have touched on magic, magic potion here. That's all I got to say. All right. By the way, here's my college football national title bubble. Throw this up for Albert. I don't know how good Ohio State's quarterback is, but they have the best defensive player and offensive player. I do a Super bowl ball bubble about once a month. I think Notre Dame and Bama, I don't know how good they're at quarterback. I have to watch them play.
Albert Breer
We're in.
Colin Cowherd
What do you make of that?
Albert Breer
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I think Penn State's going to be really good. Yeah, Oregon's. Yeah, that, that totally makes sense. You never rule out Georgia with Kirby. Those, those five seem like a good five to be in there. I think Notre Dame, I think Notre Dame's gonna be really good again. I, you know, Lloyd Carr's grandson is a quarterback there. Think he's going to be a really good player. So Notre Dame's interesting after the year they had last year, but I think I'd probably agree with the five yet. Inside the bubble.
Colin Cowherd
All right. And on the high, especially the one.
Albert Breer
In the top left corner there.
Colin Cowherd
At Penn State. Ohio State game is going to be one for the ages. That is going to be crazy. Great seeing you, buddy.
Albert Breer
All right, thanks, Colin.
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All right, here is J. Mac, hopefully with an update on the Bradley Beal Championship parade with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news.
Albert Breer
This is the Herd line news.
Rob Parker
Hearing you and Brear wax philosophic about college football. Man, I got some good Nuggets headlines Friday. Okay, just stick around. Going to be a good one for college football. Let's start here with Ben Johnson. Colin his plans for the offense in Detroit, I'm sorry, in Chicago dropped and he let everybody in on a little secret. This is going to be, I like to fancy it, the quarterback's offense, Johnson said. We're going to tailor this right around Caleb Williams. It will not necessarily be what you've seen from the last three years. We're going to find out precisely what one what our quarterback does well and that's what really we're going to anchor on you like this. You love this. It's tough not to like.
Colin Cowherd
Well, you have to figure out if he can play. So let's just figure out if he can play. Like I always say, when you draft a quarterback and you have the quarterback contract for four years, load up the offense. If you have don't. You don't want to be ambivalent about it going into year two or three. Like can he play? So to me, this is the way to do this offense between Ben Johnson, Joe Tuney, Drew Dolman, D.J. moore, Roma Dunze, the two tight ends, if they can't forget it, forget the record. If they're not a top six or seven offense. I watched Jaden Daniels last year with a battle line and no run game. If they're not a top six or seven offense in the league, then you got, you got the wrong guy quarterback. They have to be in elite offense. They have too many good players.
Rob Parker
So when you hear this tailored to the quarterback. So what he didn't do well last year was avoid sacks. He took 79 sacks and giveaways last year. Colin. That's unacceptable for a quarterback. So my guess is they're going to do a lot more three step and get rid of it. Right? Read and react. We do not want you holding the ball, Caleb. That's when bad things happen. Would you agree with that?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, speed it up. I mean one of the great gifts Brady had got rid of the ball. You're never going to gain as many yards as the people you throw it to. So get rid of the rock.
Rob Parker
68 sacks, 11 giveaways last year from Caleb. That's just terrible. Next up, Colin. Bummer news. Caitlin Clark last night did not shoot it well. And then like on the final play she had a nice assist. She grabbed her groin area. It looks like she's not doing great. However, people are so curious what's going on with the three point contest. There are rumors that she's not a rack. You know, grab the ball off the rack and shoot it. Here she is addressing all that stuff last night.
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Yeah, I guess I don't know how it compares because I've never done it. But I guess, I mean, I'm shooting off a rack and I know there was a narrative going around that I didn't want to do that at one point, which I'm not sure who made that up. But that's false because I am doing it. I was saving my first three point competition in my own city. So whoever said that, that was a lie. But at the end of the day it's just really not that deep or that serious. So just go out there and have fun and shoot it. You know, it's just the ball of hoop in Iraq, I guess and you know, just have fun doing it.
Rob Parker
So the game is in her hometown, obviously the three point contest. Colin, I gotta be honest, after seeing her wincing last night, my guess is she's not gonna play tomorrow against the Liberty. I, you know, she's probably going to want to give it a go. But con, let's be real. This is a big Picture thing. If you're telling me the fever can make the finals with Caitlin Clark or the semifinals, but she needs more time off, I think you got to skip the game this weekend in the three point contest, right?
Colin Cowherd
I would, yeah. What, what's the win? If she wins, people say she should. If she doesn't and struggle she gets. And she's. By the way, she's struggling right now with injuries. She's not getting the push off. She won't with a groin injury. So I'd skip it.
Rob Parker
Yeah. And final story is the Suns and Bradley Beal parted ways about an hour ago. Somebody sent me a text that we just had one of the best segments in show history when you and I went at it over Bradley Beal going to the paper clips. Two years, eleven and a half million dollars. Essentially, he has a player option for year two. So Bradley Beal's betting on himself. Hey, with the Clippers, I'm gonna get shots, I'm gonna get points, I'm gonna start and I'm gonna opt out after one year and then I'm gonna go chase, you know, 20, 30, 40 million, whatever, next year. Obviously, Bradley Beal was better than the public thought. Colin, again, his numbers the last two seasons. Okay. Our staff came up with this. Guys that have averaged 15 points a game, 50% shooting from the field, 40% from three. Only five guys have done it in the last two seasons. Bradley Beal is one of them. You can say he's garbage all you want, but he's actually.
Colin Cowherd
Stats can be deceiving. Stats are deceiving. How many people want Karl Anthony, Towns, Sabonis, really, an elite player like that? You, you can make a lot of. Well, how many people have not crosswalked in a month? No speeding tickets. They're Mario Andretti. Let's slow down on cultivating some rando stats to make me think Bradley Beal is Kevin Durant.
Rob Parker
20% from 3 in the last two years.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's because everybody's on Booker and Kevin Durant and he's wide open.
Rob Parker
Well, everybody's going to be on Kawhi and Harden and he's going to be wide open. Everybody would have been on Luka and LeBron. I'm just saying I think this is a huge win. I know he's only a three time all star and he's made all NBA I think once as like a third teamer, but I think you're way undervaluing Beal and even Aitman. I'm not just saying this because he went for the lakers. But at $8 million, that is a steal. Colin, you Eagle Bears clocking like Listen, $35 million. I don't care.
Colin Cowherd
I don't care about value. Give me talent. You're into value. When I go, when I go to a grocery store, listen, they're day old bagels but they're almost free. Give me the fresh ones. I don't care about value. Give me better players.
Rob Parker
Comparing food to NBA contracts now, Colin. Oh my goodness.
Colin Cowherd
I'm not a value guy. I don't care about value. I want players. I look at Oklahoma City, I look at Indiana, I look at Dallas. I need more elite players in their football prime that can play 82 games.
Rob Parker
By the way, isn't this isn't value similar to hey, I could sign in with a Florida team and pay no taxes or I go to a California team and pay a ton of taxes. Isn't that value as well?
Colin Cowherd
Colin, you know what's not winning NBA championships? Value contracts. That's not Jokic. You're not getting. Jokic is great and you pay a lot and SGA and J Dub and Chet Holm going to really good and you're paying max value. Doesn't. I mean it's. I think it's great that you're getting value with Jalen Brunson. He's also one of the best small finishers in the last 10 years in the league. I'm much more into his game than I am his value. You're not going to get Nvidia at value as a stock. I think you should own it. I don't know if I'm getting value on it. I just think with AI going forward, their new deal potentially with China, you should own that stock over the next 10 years. I don't. You're not going to get any value on it.
Rob Parker
Okay, Warren Buffett, thanks for that stock tip.
Colin Cowherd
All right, J. Mack with the news.
Albert Breer
Well, that's the news and thanks for.
Colin Cowherd
Stopping by the Herd lie news. Austin Reeves had one of the best value contracts in the NBA. Did you watch him against the T Wolves? Yeah. How'd that value thing work out for you? I mean, get me players. It's hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific Time.
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Colin Cowherd
Not happy when it changed.
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Colin Cowherd
What the fuss is about.
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Colin Cowherd
And if you know anything about me.
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Colin Cowherd
So one of the annoying traits of J. Mac is that he he overreacts to a good or a marginal player. So I come in like Brock Purdy, who's a good player. You know, NFL execs, scouts, coaches poll. He's not in the top 10. He's probably closer to 15. But then I have to come in and sound like a hater when I really don't hate Brock Purdy. But that's what people think. And my take is I think he's fine. I think Kyle Shanahan and Christian McCaffrey. You know, last year when McCaffrey's not around, what was his record? It wasn't very good. And if it's overcast and misty, suddenly can't hold on to the ball. So same with Austin Reaves. I like Austin Reeves. He's undrafted. He's a nice player. He should be a number four in a great team. He's not as good as Derrick White, who I would trade Austin Reeves for in like 15 seconds. But. But Austin Reeves a good player. But Austin Reeves thinks I hate him because J. Mac has him as like Bill Russell plus LeBron James. Like, can we slow down? He's undrafted and he's just he outworked against the T Wolves. So I don't even know where this comes from, I always liked Bradley Beal. I for years thought LeBron James should go out and play with Bradley Beal. I must have said it 100 times. But I take a couple days off and J. Mac goes on the air and says this with a straight face.
Rob Parker
I think it's a no brainer. The Lakers get Beal to me, they become right there one of the favorites in the Western Conference.
Colin Cowherd
I don't even know what I mean. I give you the microphone for three days and that's what I get. I've got to react to that. And so basically, J. Mac thinks this version of the Clippers is going to roll through the NBA. In fact, if you look at the picture, James Harden isn't even, you know, he's distracted, looking off into the wilderness because he's James Harden. He's not even. He's not even like, look at him. He's like, I'd rather be somewhere else. The best player there on a nightly basis is the center.
Rob Parker
So like, he had a great.
Colin Cowherd
I think he's a really good player. I think Kawhi's an enigma. I think he's talented, but he could call ty Lew at 445 and go, I got an ice cream headache. I can't play. So I don't even know what I get with him.
Rob Parker
All right, so there's a lot here. I wish we had more time. Colin, what we just saw in the NBA this past season is depth and youth are what's winning in the playoffs. The Pacers had nine, 10 guys. Yeah, OKC had nine, 10 guys. When you can get Bradley Beal at $5 million, you're getting a borderline All Star on the cheap. And it enables you to get a better depth on your bench. So the Clippers, you didn't even see in that lineup, Bogdanovich coming off the bench. That guy started for many years. Brook Lopez is going to be coming off the bench for them. That's a huge get. Chris Dunn's not terrible. Nick Batum on the French national team, veteran. They're all of a sudden nine or ten deep with the Clippers.
Colin Cowherd
You know who won the title this year? The starters for Oklahoma City. Not their bench. Bench guys go on the road and they are. They are marginalized and reduced overnight. Role players do not deliver in the postseason. Especially on the road. They're good at home. Oklahoma City was a different team on the road with their great bench. Benches don't win titles.
Rob Parker
So what wins?
Colin Cowherd
Russell, Shaq, Kobe, M.J. bird, Magic, Duncan. They lebron they win titles.
Rob Parker
The league has changed just a little, and youth and depth are what rolled in this postseason. The Indiana Pacers are a great example. They were picking up 94ft because guess what? We got 10 guys we can go to. The Lakers. I'm looking at their depth chart right now. Colin again, their bench right now. Gabe Vincent, Jordan Goodwin, you wouldn't know him if he delivered a pizza.
Colin Cowherd
Studio right now. You think you. You think the Lakers are a title team.
Rob Parker
If they had gotten Beal, they would have more depth. Jake Laravia is like their seventh guy. That's not going to cut it. They need depth in scoring, and they don't have that.
Colin Cowherd
You lose LeBron, nobody listening to this show can possibly think Beal takes the Clippers to a different spot. You are literally on Crazy Man Island. There's nobody in the world that thinks this except you.
Rob Parker
So, you know, a lot of you and I both know some Clippers executives, okay? They watch this show. You know, Ty Lue right now is like doing the happy dance. He's probably going to put it on Instagram. This is such a steal. How do you not see this?
Colin Cowherd
I think Ty Lue thinks we just got Jessica Beal. What's going on here? I got to go to the trade wire.
Rob Parker
Well, that's a great Jessica Beal reference. I'm a fan of her work, obviously.
Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, the Steelers got value in Russell Wilson last year. Value. I don't want value in my stocks and in my NBA stars. I don't want value. I want. Great.
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See you tomorrow.
Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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Danielle Robaix
Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
Colin Cowherd
I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of, like, butterflies.
Danielle Robaix
I'm Danielle Robaix, and this is is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcast where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Rob Parker
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
Bob Crawford
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
Colin Cowherd
Left a woman behind to drown.
Bob Crawford
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Listen to United states on the iHeartRadio.
Colin Cowherd
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Bob Crawford
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions.
Colin Cowherd
Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree? Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
Bob Crawford
And I find the answers. I'm so glad you asked me this question.
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This is such a ridiculous story.
Bob Crawford
You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Danielle Robaix
This is an iHeart podcast.
Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Hour 3 - Albert Breer
Release Date: July 16, 2025
The Herd with Colin Cowherd features a dynamic conversation between host Colin Cowherd and sports journalist Albert Breer. This episode delves into pressing topics in the NFL, college football, and the NBA, offering insightful analysis and expert opinions.
Timestamp: 02:51 - 05:37
Colin Cowherd initiates the discussion by revisiting his previous suggestion about trading TJ Watt from the Pittsburgh Steelers. He highlights the team’s substantial investment in defense and speculates on potential trade opportunities.
Colin Cowherd:
"If I was the Steelers with all the money they have on defense, I'd shop around TJ Watt."
[02:51]
Albert Breer responds by assessing the Steelers' current roster, emphasizing the value of players like Aaron Rodgers and the team’s strategic position.
Albert Breer:
"I think the spot the Steelers are in right now, they need T.J. Watt, and I think the presence of Aaron Rodgers is something that we've been waiting for since the retirement of Ben Roethlisberger."
[05:15]
Breer argues against trading key players, suggesting that Pittsburgh’s current lineup necessitates retaining their star defensive talents to maintain competitiveness.
Timestamp: 05:37 - 07:46
The conversation shifts to the New York Jets securing new contracts for standout players Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson. Breer interprets these moves as the management’s commitment to rewarding performance and building a strong foundational roster.
Albert Breer:
"I think there's a message there that we are going to reward people who do it the right way."
[06:28]
He further elaborates on the Jets' strategy under the new general manager, Aaron Glenn, highlighting the importance of retaining key players to foster team stability and success.
Timestamp: 07:46 - 16:15
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to speculating whether legendary college coach Nick Saban could transition to the NFL. Colin posits scenarios where Saban might fit into NFL franchises seeking immediate success and credibility.
Colin Cowherd:
"Nick Saban thinks he's a better coach than Belichick. And if Belichick goes to... So Belichick can't win without Brady goes to Carolina, it doesn't go well. Nick goes to the NFL, Greatest college coach ever."
[12:38]
Albert Breer concurs, drawing parallels between Saban’s adaptability and the success of renowned NFL coaches like Bill Belichick. He discusses potential teams that could benefit from Saban’s expertise, notably the Dallas Cowboys and New York Giants.
Albert Breer:
"It's the first one that NFL people always consider is like, would the Giants do it? Because there was that interest about 20 years ago."
[11:11]
Breer highlights the challenges and advantages Saban would encounter, including geographical preferences and the necessity for a "win-now" roster structure.
Timestamp: 16:15 - 17:32
Colin and Albert briefly touch upon the current landscape of college football, identifying teams like Penn State, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Georgia as top contenders for the national title. The discussion underscores the strengths and strategic advantages these programs hold heading into the season.
Colin Cowherd:
"Here's my college football national title bubble. Throw this up for Albert."
[15:19]
Albert Breer:
"Penn State's going to be really good. Yeah, Oregon's. Yeah, that totally makes sense. You never rule out Georgia with Kirby."
[16:48]
Timestamp: 17:32 - 37:55
The conversation transitions to the NBA, focusing on Bradley Beal’s departure from the Phoenix Suns to the Los Angeles Clippers. Colin and Albert debate the valuation of players, the impact of contracts, and team depth.
Rob Parker:
"Bradley Beal is one of them. You can say he's garbage all you want, but he's actually..."
[26:42]
Colin Cowherd:
"Stats can be deceiving. How many people want Karl Anthony, Towns, Sabonis, really, an elite player like that?"
[26:48]
The duo critique the Clippers' roster depth and question the effectiveness of value contracts in building a championship-winning team.
Colin Cowherd:
"The Lakers got Beal, they become right there one of the favorites in the Western Conference."
[34:33]
Albert Breer:
"The Clippers didn't even see in that lineup, Bogdanovich coming off the bench. That guy started for many years."
[36:03]
They conclude by emphasizing the importance of star players over depth in securing NBA titles, citing historical examples like Russell, Shaq, and LeBron James.
Colin Cowherd:
"If I was the Steelers with all the money they have on defense, I'd shop around TJ Watt."
[02:51]
Albert Breer:
"The presence of Aaron Rodgers is something that we've been waiting for since the retirement of Ben Roethlisberger."
[05:15]
Colin Cowherd:
"Nick Saban thinks he's a better coach than Belichick. And if Belichick goes to... So Belichick can't win without Brady goes to Carolina, it doesn't go well."
[12:38]
Albert Breer:
"It's the first one that NFL people always consider is like, would the Giants do it? Because there was that interest about 20 years ago."
[11:11]
Colin Cowherd:
"Stats can be deceiving. How many people want Karl Anthony, Towns, Sabonis, really, an elite player like that?"
[26:48]
Albert Breer:
"The Clippers didn't even see in that lineup, Bogdanovich coming off the bench. That guy started for many years."
[36:03]
This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a comprehensive analysis of current sports dynamics, featuring in-depth discussions on NFL strategies, potential coaching changes, college football title races, and NBA player movements. Albert Breer's expertise complements Colin's perspectives, providing listeners with a nuanced understanding of the sports landscape as of July 2025.
For those who haven't tuned in, this episode serves as a valuable resource to stay informed on pivotal sports developments, enriched with expert commentary and thoughtful debate.