Loading summary
Colin Cowherd
It's the last game of the season and with Amex, you can save time with card member entrances at select venues and go straight to the action so you can catch every moment. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply.
Joy Taylor
Learn more@americanexpress.com with Amex, Virgin Voyages isn't your average cruise. It's a masterclass in luxury all in. Voyage pricing includes over $1,000 in value, Wi fi, tips, entertainment, even specialty dining. No hidden fees, no surprises. The cabins are next level private terraces, virgin red hammocks, unbeatable sea views. Add in the adult only factor. No kids, that's right, just relaxation. It's no surprise they're award winning. And the destinations Caribbean this winter, Iceland, North America and the Mediterranean in 2025 and 2026. Virgin Voyages is where luxury meets travel. Book it and see what you've been missing. Learn more@virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor. You can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com heap and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. These days it feels like everyone is talking about how the American dream of home ownership has become out of reach. Well, Rocket is trying to give more people a chance to own their homes. They're making home ownership simpler and more accessible to more people, turning renters into owners. Rocket believes that everybody deserves a shot at the American dream. So are you ready? Own the dream. Visit Rocket.com or call 800-4Rocket. Thanks for listening to the Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
Albert Breer
Now let's get this party started.
Joy Taylor
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, it's the combine. It's been happening for a long time, but has grown in stature and relevance. And Albert Brear is now joining us live. We got news breaking as we speak. Let's start with The San Francisco 49ers Little Brock Purdy News percolating What. What say you? What's happening there, Albert?
Tomer Cohen
Well, I think they're going to try to get something done. And really the question, I think, is the timeline. There's no doubt and there hasn't been any doubt that they want to go forward with Brock Purdy as their quarterback. But the market has materially changed, you know, really, over the last few years. Now you got nine quarterbacks making over $50 million per year. The Niners obviously have a lot of mouths to feed with their roster being what it is, and, you know, guys like Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and Trent Williams and Brandon Aiyuk at the top of the market at third position. So how does all this come together? And I think the other thing you gotta look at here, Colin, is the team's history and the way the team has handled these things over the last few years, you know, and I thought back to, you know, the Jimmy Garoppolo negotiation, which was done at the end of January, believe it or not, they got that one done almost immediately after the first season the two sides had together, the first half season they had together, you know, and since then, the negotiations they've had with their own players have been a lot more difficult. Deebo Samuel, Nick Bosa, Brandon Iuk, all those went all the way through training camp. And so that, I think, is the biggest question. I have confidence they'll get something done with Brock Purdy. I think the question is on what the timing looks like and is this something that gets, you know, tied up in the spring or are we talking about, you know, this when we get deep into training camp? I think that's the part that's uncertain about it.
Joy Taylor
Okay. I said the Sam Darnold story confused me. There's. I think it could be Sam Darnold's agent putting it out there to create a market that the Niners or the. The Vikings are still kind of interested in negotiating. And I'm like, okay, then why'd you give away picks for J.J. mcCarthy? Is it an injury thing? It feels like somebody's trying to elevate the Sam Darnold market because now Aaron Rodgers is out there. What do you make of the stories the Vikings are considering options to do the Sam Darnold contract and it not be a franchise tag?
Tomer Cohen
I think that the number, the lump sum number for the franchise tag being over $40 million a year complicates it. Most teams don't want to pay that all at once. You know, obviously it's not the ideal scenario for Sam either. Although I do think he really enjoyed playing in Minnesota and got a lot out of playing for Kevin O'Connell. So, you know, I think the most likely scenario in this case remains Sam goes to the market and then they see what Sam's market is and they make a decision there accordingly. They'd like to have Sam back.
Joy Taylor
Okay.
Tomer Cohen
And I think they'd like to, but I think they. But I think there's a limit to how far they're willing to go with Sam.
Joy Taylor
So why not just go with JJ McCarthy? Like, is. Are there reservations about JJ McCarthy?
Tomer Cohen
Well, he's coming off the two knee surgeries and the last one was just a cleanup. So I think that that's, you know, part of the. Part of the equation here. I think coming back, like your question is going to be, is he going to be in a position to hit the ground running when you get to otas, and is he going to be in a position where you're going to be able to say to your team, we're giving you the best chance to win the most important position on the field? And they have confidence in jj. And JJ did a lot of things right. JJ pushed Sam last year, like, in a way they didn't expect. Like it was a real, you know, discussion point there in August before JJ got hurt. Like, you know, is. Is there a scenario where JJ plays significant snaps now? Obviously the injury happens and that changes a lot of things. I think what you'd be looking at now is, you know, where is JJ's weight at? Where does he. How does he look physically coming off the injury? Because these things can take a toll on you. And so I think those are the sorts of things that the Vikings are watching right now when it comes to determining the management of the quarterback position. And I think they're at least going to backstop themselves. Now, does that mean Sam Darnold at 25 or $30 million a year? It could. Does that mean Daniel Jones at a lower number? It could. I don't think it's just going to be JJ and some run of the mill backup, but I do think they've got confidence that JJ can be a really good quarterback for them in 2025.
Joy Taylor
Okay, let's get to the Stafford thing. My take is the Raiders news that Tom Brady called. Matt Stafford's interesting. And here's why. Pete Carroll. Say it out loud. Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, Max Crosby, a left tackle that's redeemable. Even their center they hit on last year. From Oregon, I've got Brock Bowers, who is A transcendent weapon. And I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, okay, it's indoors. They'd give him more years and more money than the Rams would. That one felt to me like I could see. I mean, think about this. And I know this is. I don't want to be an accountant. Thirteen and a half percent taxes. Rams will give you two years. No state taxes. Raiders give you four. That could be a 60, $70 million swing. Albert, like, I would listen to that if I was Matt Stafford. Would you?
Tomer Cohen
I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in that I think so much of what Tom Brady is doing and trying to establish there is to add credibility to the organization. Pete Carroll obviously is a very credible head coaching hire. John Spytic is well respected across the NFL, coming in as his gm. And I think a big part of this for Tom, in working with Mark Davis, is sort of reimagining who the Raiders are and changing the way that they're perceived across the landscape of all of sports. And so part of that is bringing in the big money guys, having his own partner, Tom Wagner, part of the equation. Egan Durbin, you know, who's the CEO of Silver Lake Capital, You've got resources, which is part of how you pay, say, $6 million a year to go and get Chip Kelly. And adding Matthew Stafford at quarterback, I think would make some sense from that standpoint, in that you're going to be able to get competitive quicker. The bigger question, I think, if you're weighing the idea of bringing in a Stafford versus maybe going and making a run at Sam Darnold is, okay, like, where does this leave us in 2026? Where does this leave us in 2027? And if part of the issue for Stafford with the Rams is, well, we don't know where you're going to be a year from now, two years from now, ostensibly, you probably have the same problem if you were the Raiders. So I love the idea of it. I do think it'll allow you to attract free agents, and they've got a lot of resources there now to attract free agents. And I think this is going to be. It can be a destination if you set it up the right way and you have a quarterback to attract people in. I think the one question, if you are going to go and acquire Matthew Stafford, if you're the Raiders, has to be, what does this look like two or three years from now? And are we close enough where we want to go and take a win now, sort of swing and give up assets to do it.
Joy Taylor
Okay, so this is interesting. A little wonky, but the NFL PA report card came out where the players tell you what they think of their organization. I saw the Steelers on the list of places players were not happy, and I was. That was the one that jumped out to me. I always thought Tomlin was a pro player organization. That one jumped out to me. Any surprises for you on the NFLPA report card about teams, players, and how they feel about the franchise?
Tomer Cohen
Well, I think one thing that's definitely notable is it's gotten better. Like, it seems like what they're doing is working. You know, they. They showed us a whole bunch of different statistics and metrics that show that there are far fewer failing grades for teams that players are handing out. And I think a big part of that is that a lot of these guys were embarrassed by some of the stuff that was out there on their teams. And so I do think to some degree, some of that stuff's been fixed. It's interesting because I think the Pittsburgh thing relates back to one thing that I think has got to be a factor in all of these situations, and that's your team facility. I believe the chargers jumped from 30th to 5th. Colin and I know the Spanos have done a lot of, you know, good things over the last year, and Jim Harbaugh makes a difference. But how much? That's just the building. You know, the facility in Miami and Minnesota are one and two with two of the newest facilities in the league. I think part of Pittsburgh's problem is they're in an older facility that's attached to the Pitt facility. The University of Pittsburgh football facility. Yeah, you share a bunch of stuff with the University of Pittsburgh. It's just not this, like, megaplex that you have in Minnesota or you have in Dallas, you have in Miami or you have now at the Chargers. You know, I think so much of that survey, a lot of it is based on what your physical building looks like.
Joy Taylor
Okay.
Tomer Cohen
And Pittsburgh's isn't great. Pittsburgh scored high in some other areas, so I think that's one thing that definitely sticks out every year, is that, like, is tied to the facility. The other thing that I think is interesting is most players are pretty happy with their head coaches, I believe. I think someone got a B plus. I was reading one of the blurbs. Someone got a B plus, and they were ranked, like, 24th among head coaches. So, I mean, if you're giving your coach a B and he's 24th of 32, and then you got all these players giving their owners C's and D's and F's. You know, it tells you that I think most the head coaches are connecting with their players, so that's a good thing too. New England being at the bottom of the list was sort of interesting I think as well. When you sort of look at this and say okay, like how much does this have to do with winning and losing? And when you lose, the luster being what they were for 20 years, to see them 31st overall and then to see the owner in the bottom five of of the three categories that players are ranking them in, I think that was pretty eye opening as well.
Joy Taylor
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. You can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Require card has no cash access and expires in six months.
Colin Cowherd
With amex, there's always a new experience to explore, from curating the perfect vacation and chilling in the Centurion Lounge before you get there trying out that new trendy restaurant thanks to Priority Notify with global dining access by Resy and getting straight to the action at the big game with card member entrances at select venues. With Amex Platinum, you can experience it all. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Access to the card member entrance not limited to the American Express Platinum card. Learn more@americanexpress.com withamx I'm Mary Kay McBrayer.
Mary Kay McBrayer
Host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Colin Cowherd
I'm Tomer Cohen, LinkedIn's chief product officer. If you're just as curious as I am about the way things are built, the insights behind what it takes to.
Joy Taylor
Create a world renowned product, then tune.
Colin Cowherd
Into my podcast Building One.
Joy Taylor
There's so much to learn, like how.
Colin Cowherd
Patagonia innovates with its supply chain.
Joy Taylor
We had to go out to farmers.
Tomer Cohen
And convince them it was really damn hard.
Colin Cowherd
Or the way Adobe thinks about the first interaction somebody has with Photoshop.
Tomer Cohen
I was always so fascinated by how.
Albert Breer
People navigate and find their way.
Joy Taylor
Ever wanted to know how Nike builds.
Colin Cowherd
Emotion into the Jordan brand?
Tomer Cohen
You have to be obsessed with the current state of the human condition and.
Joy Taylor
It doesn't stop there. What about how Glean reinvented knowledge? Search with AI you can learn about how Michelin Star Chef is redesigning seeds for flavor and how Pixar is nurturing a creative culture. Listen to Building One on the iHeartRadio app, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Shador Sanders is dropping in the draft. I said this yesterday. My favorite quality of his, you know, draft status is that he had a terrible run game, the worst in Power 5 for two years and the worst offensive line for two years in college football. So he's had to initiate offense. He'll probably go to a team without a great offensive line. There's a reason why so many quarterbacks in the NFL go to Wyoming, Texas Tech, Miami, of Ohio Cal is that it's a real college experience, it's a real pro experience that you're running for your life with no run support. I think that makes Shador more attractive. Why is he falling in the draft? It does feel like there's a gradual regression for him.
Tomer Cohen
Well, first of all, I would agree with you on that. Like, I think if you're at Ohio State or Alabama, like, how often are you going past your first out of your first progression, right? Like, how often are you going to number two? How often are you going to number three? How often do you have to move in the pocket to make things work, to cover up an issue your offensive line might have? I think all that stuff is 100% valid, and we've seen that with some of the quarterbacks who've come out of the powerhouse schools where they've struggled because they haven't had to find those answers that deep into an individual play or they haven't had to be as creative in making things happen. I think the issue with Shador, and this is going to be a difficult thing for him to address over the next six or seven months or six or seven weeks is are you special in any one area? Do you have a superpower trait, or are you an average athlete with an average arm in an NFL context? And I think that that's the way a lot of teams look at him. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't have a big arm so like where is the superpower that's going to make you want to take him in the top five? And I think he attached that then to what the teams in the AFC are looking up at. And that's sort of this Mount Olympus of quarterbacks. Right. So if you're Tennessee picking first or Cleveland picking second, I'll you, I'll borrow a term that that Daniel Jeremiah used with me a few days ago. It's almost like you have to chase ceiling, you know, because it's not can this guy be a good player? It's can this guy be good enough to compete with Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow in the afc? And oh, by the way, when you get by those guys, you still got more guys with a lot of upside. And CJ Stroud and Trevor Lawrence and Bo Nix and Drake Mace Gauntlet, you know. So like are if you draft Shador Sanders in the top five or top 10 picks, could he get up and running pretty fast? I think he probably could, yeah. Five years from now, are you going to be comfortable giving him 55, 60, $65 million a year? I think that's the question.
Joy Taylor
Yeah. See I've always argued that what you don't want to be in the NFL. Is it chaos at quarterback? I think Shador Sanders is a little bit like Jared. If he has a good coach. He stabilizes you that he completes passes, he moves the chains, he's not going to get in trouble. He is very accurate. He stabilizes a tire fire of an organization and there's about seven of those a year in the league. He's not going to change the ascension, but you won't have to worry about quarterback for five years. He's a grown up that completes passes and that's what Jared Goff, he's out of the news, moves the chains. I don't like him in a cold weather. I don't like him against a great player. But there is something to be said like the Raiders need stabilization. The Browns need, I mean the Bears need it some sometimes in this league it's not what you can do, it's what you won't do, which is get us in trouble.
Tomer Cohen
Right. And that again though, like it's just are you going to be able to level up and compete on the highest level?
Joy Taylor
Right.
Tomer Cohen
And I, I agree like that he could come in and stabilize that position for a team, you know, like is he going to get to a second contract or are you going to be left in year three or year four wanting for more and saying to yourself, like, is this it? You know, is this all we're going to get is sort of the Mac Jones thing, right? Mac Jones was great as a rookie. They were able to get him out there and get him up and running and playing at a pretty high level pretty fast. And then it was sort of like that was it with him, you know. And so that's the biggest question with Shador, you know, and that's why I think some teams view Shador as closer to, to Jackson Dart than maybe he is to Cam Ward. I think with Cam Ward, it's, that's the chase the ceiling guy. Like, that's the guy where it's not consistent enough, but it's gotten a little bit more consistent over the last couple of years and you see the flashes of greatness with him and maybe you look at him and you say, okay, like I can envision, I can envision where he's going to get there and he's going to be able to help us chase guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and, and Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, you know, versus he's always going to be like, we're always going to be the six or seven seed. We're always going to be not quite good. I think that's the concern with Shador.
Joy Taylor
Albert Brer at some swanky hotel in Indianapolis at the NFL combine. Hopefully Monday morning quarterbacks picking up the bill on that looks very nice. Nice crown molding. They're very expensive looking.
Tomer Cohen
It's very nice in here. Yeah, absolutely. I, I wish my earpiece was. Was working the way a lot of the stuff here in the hotel is.
Joy Taylor
Good seeing you, my man.
Tomer Cohen
Albert Brewery.
Joy Taylor
All right.
Tomer Cohen
Thanks, guys.
Joy Taylor
Yeah, I always think, because I've told you before, if I didn't do this, I'd want to be an NFL general manager, which is unrealistic. But If I put 30 years into it like I did broadcasting, that's what I'd want to do. I always think in the NFL at quarterback, you just don't want to be a disaster. So if I can, like I always said, Kirk Cousins, you bring Kirk Cousins into your organization. Is the ceiling low? Yeah, but the floor is so high. Like Shador is high floor, lower ceiling. He's a grown up. He'll come in. He is very accurate. He'll move the chains. I. He's not going to, he's not going to initiate great offense. But he's proven in college, no run game, battle line. He's proven he'll stay Healthy, he'll stay upright. He completed 74% of his throws, I think in the last couple years with no run game they had to throw. So it's like a lot of times just, just bring an adult in the room, Stabilize my organization. I don't want drama. I'm going to have some drama at wide receiver. I may have some drama from my owner. If I'm a coach or a gm, I just don't want drama at quarterback. I'll take Kirk Cousins, stabilize it. I can worry about other stuff for a couple years. I'll draft the Michael Penix behind him, but I know I'm not going to have. That's why I was banged on Baker Mayfield. Baker, you want to put the fires out, not start him as a quarterback.
Albert Breer
So two quick things. Number one is Aaron Rodgers. Does he fall into that drama bucket? Colin, because last hour I think you were saying, hey, Aaron Rogers, the Rams or Aaron Rodgers to the Raider. Isn't he drama at quarterback if I need him?
Joy Taylor
But the Rams have so little drama, I could bring him in for a year.
Albert Breer
Okay.
Joy Taylor
It's like by the way, when the Patriots brought in Randy Moss. Like, we're structurally so sound. We're going to bring Randy in for a couple years. And by the way, Randy fit in. And by year three, he's a little noisy. Okay. Then it moves on.
Albert Breer
So second point is Jalen Hurts. When he was drafted by the Eagles, I know he went second round. Do you think anybody said, oh, the ceiling's just not high enough for Jalen Hurts?
Joy Taylor
Yes.
Albert Breer
Meanwhile, he's been freaking awesome, right. Since he's been a starter in this league. So I still believe that the NFL does not know how to actively. I'll say this, scout, quarterback. They just don't get it.
Joy Taylor
If the jets got him at number seven. So let's look at the draft order.
Albert Breer
He won't be there at 7. No way.
Joy Taylor
I'm just saying.
Albert Breer
No way.
Joy Taylor
If you look at the teams, if he, if he got to seven, what do the jets need more than anything? Stability. Shador Sanders is great for the Jets.
Albert Breer
Yeah, but he would have to fall to seven. Well, let's see. Titans need a quarterback. Browns need a quarterback. Giants need a quarterback. Raiders need a quarterback. Like, come on. Now, some of those might take care of themselves in free agency, but I, I almost willing to do one of these dinner wager bets with you that Shador Sanders goes.
Joy Taylor
Why don't you do a mock draft tomorrow? Talk to me.
Albert Breer
I'm doing one this week. Just hit me up and was like, we need.
Joy Taylor
Well, Collins hitting you up. Why don't you do one tomorrow? Okay. Listen to this story. Wait, we do have Jordan Schultz. We do.
Albert Breer
Are you saying something fresh for Herd Line here?
Joy Taylor
Is it about this thing? I'm looking at Jordan Schultz?
Albert Breer
Is it a quarterback? Okay. No, it's something different. Okay, go, go, go.
Joy Taylor
Tom Brady hosted Matt Stafford at his home in Montana. They went skiing. Brady has been actively trying to convince Stafford to join the Raiders. Several teams are interested in Stafford if the Rams decide to move him. The Rams, I'm told, do not want to move him. They just don't want to give him three and four years. So can you imagine skiing? And you're getting on the chairlift, and here's Brady and Stafford flying down the hill, and you're Sean McVeigh spying on him. And you got the goggles on. You're like, what are you guys doing today? What are you guys talking about here?
Albert Breer
They probably know they gotta pay Stafford. You cannot lose him. All the momentum they've had the last few years with Stafford, you got to keep him. Why are they being so cheap with him?
Tomer Cohen
Timeout.
Joy Taylor
They're paying him 27 million a year.
Albert Breer
With 27 mil for a top seven quarterback in the league.
Joy Taylor
Come.
Albert Breer
What are you. Jack Prescott's getting 60.
Joy Taylor
That's a bad contract.
Albert Breer
Okay, fine. Don't give me 60. Give me 50.
Joy Taylor
It's a lot of money.
Albert Breer
Pay me like I deserve to be paid.
Joy Taylor
Oh, boy.
Albert Breer
It's not like you.
Joy Taylor
You going through a contract negotiation. That's what it sounds like. You're kind of pivoting. And I'm not the only one on the set. Okay, enough of that. Herdline News around the corner, live in la. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio at. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something right. So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up as they say. I'd say the most interactive show show on Fox Sports Radio maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Ko Vino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich. You can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile, keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device, credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months.
Colin Cowherd
Count your way into a perfect night with AMEX Gold one restaurant, two friends, three amazing dishes and four times membership rewards points on purchases at restaurants and US Supermarkets. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Cap applies.
Mary Kay McBrayer
Learn more@americanexpress.com withamx I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Joy Taylor
Everyone's forgotten who runs this valley. Time to remind them. Yellowstone fans, step into the Yellowstone universe.
Albert Breer
Dark family legacy is this ranch and.
Joy Taylor
I protect it with my life. Hosted by Bobby Bones, the official Yellowstone Podcast takes you deeper into the franchise that's captivated millions worldwide. Action Explore untold behind the scenes stories, exclusive cast interviews and in depth discussions about the themes and legacy of Yellowstone.
Tomer Cohen
You know the first students to settle.
Joy Taylor
This valley fighting was all they knew. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the ranch, welcome to the Yellowstone. Bobby Bones has everything you need to stay connected to the Yellowstone phenomenon. I look forward to it. Listen to the Official Yellowstone Podcast now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Go to work. By the way, that NFL Pennsylvania Report Card There's a certain organization that Got very low grades that we've been banging on for a about six months that a certain star quarterback plays for and is not very happy. I'll let you chase that down. Let's go to J. Mac with the news. No, no, no.
Albert Breer
Turn on the news.
Joy Taylor
This is the Herd line news.
Albert Breer
Fun Breaking ish news from the combine. The 49ers just announced they are working on a long term extension for Brock Purdy. John lynch just spoke about it at the combine. Colin, here's what they had to say about Brock Purdy and his contract.
Joy Taylor
We have started negotiations. We're talking. I won't go into negotiations. Like always is our stance. Want Brock to be our quarterback as long as we're here and, and beyond and, and we'll leave it at that. I think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get something done. But my experience has been when both sides are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so. Sounds like he's wavering.
Albert Breer
So some of the reports trickling out out of San Francisco, Colin, are that Purdy is going to get Dak Prescott money but it's going to be structured in a way that it's not gonna hamstring the organization. I have a feeling this is gonna be an eye popping number when it comes out and you're gonna probably do two days blasting Purdy and the organization.
Joy Taylor
I'm not gonn for getting money. It's going to be an organizational choice. I don't blame Dak for getting the money. He's not a $60 million quarterback. I don't care what the market is when it drizzles. He's not the same guy when it's overcast. Well, I mean he's got. I've seen him in rainy situations. I mean I, I don't think it's that hard. I've been pretty good on the quarterback stuff. I mean Darnold, I proved that he was actually good. I think it's a. I think there are. I will ask you this and I'm talking traits. What's his A plus trait? And don't give me winning. What is his A plus trait? Size, arm movement, athletic ability. What's the trait?
Albert Breer
I would say his ability to read the quickly read the defense and identify and make the right throw.
Joy Taylor
Okay.
Albert Breer
I mean he's a pretty cerebral quarterback.
Joy Taylor
Yes, he's a very smart. Yeah, he's a very smart, smart guy. Yeah, I think that's right. And I hope that's worth 60 large because I'd like to see some Physical trait that I can't duplicate.
Albert Breer
So I know you have Purdy as a top 10 quarterback back in the league.
Joy Taylor
No, I don't.
Albert Breer
Oh, you don't? Okay, top 15.
Joy Taylor
Yes.
Albert Breer
Does he drop further? Should he get 60 mil? Because I think the contract does matter for some of these guys. He was awesome on the cheap.
Joy Taylor
How's Dak looked now that he hogs up, you know, 20% of the salary cap, How's Dallas look? Not great. Yeah, you have to basically hit on every draft pick, which, by the way, Dallas hasn't. So Philadelphia pays everybody, but they've hit on like six straight defensive draft picks. The Rams, when you hit on draft pick after draft pick after. I mean, the Rams literally pay nobody on defense. So you can. They can afford to pay staffer. But, but I mean, Dallas last year, I look at that draft. Yikes. Did anybody hit on that draft? Zach Martin just retired.
Albert Breer
Yeah, it's not looking great. But, you know, for instance, like, would you rather say Kirk Cousins come on in on the cheap? I'm talking like, you know, let's say the Falcons dump him. Kirk, Falcons are paying your salary. We don't want to really pay you anything. We want the Russell Wilson deal. Whatever the league minimum is, you're playing for that. Would you rather take Kirk Cousins on that or brock Purdy at 60? Because that. How is that not in play for the Niners? Why don't we just say no thank you to 60 mil and we'll take Kirk Cousins super cheap because the Falcons dump it.
Joy Taylor
Well, then you have to hope, cross your fingers that you can find a quarterback over the neck. I mean, they missed on Trey Lance. They also, like, Mac Jones didn't draft him. So they would have been over two on the two guys they like. So that was the quarterback Covid class. So that was a wonky draft. But I am not, I, I always think I'm not anti Brock, but he is much closer to Baker Mayfield as a pure talent than he is Josh Allen. So let's make the pay somewhere around Baker. If you can't get there. I have to consider drafting another quarterback. I mean, if I'm San Francisco this year, I'm going to take a Riley Leonard in the third round and I'm just going to see how it looks because I, I'm telling you, that is you, all you fanboys for Dak Prescott, you're a dead franchise. I mean, Dallas is dead. And it would be different if last year they went 5 for 5 with their first five picks and then you'd be like, oh, we found an edge rusher and we found the number two receiver. But you have to start hitting on like about 90% of your picks once you pay. Even Kansas City, you miss on one first round pick. That running back they picked from LSU was a miss.
Albert Breer
Edward Solaris. Okay.
Joy Taylor
You just can't miss on guys. You can't miss on Sky Moore.
Albert Breer
The Eagles are not missing.
Joy Taylor
That's right. The Rams, the Lions are not missing. Arguably three upwardly mobile teams that have deep rosters.
Albert Breer
Yeah. All right, let's go to the next story. And that is the Bengals. Man, this is going to be a chatty month here ahead for the Bengals.
Joy Taylor
Right.
Albert Breer
Ja'Marr Chase is looking to get paid. T. Higgins wants to get paid. Don't forget Trey Hendrickson, their best defender. Well, yesterday at the combine, director of player personnel Duke Tobin discussed bringing back both of their stud receivers.
Joy Taylor
Jamar is always going to be our priority. He's a fantastic football player. He's going to end up being the number one paid non quarterback in the league.
Tomer Cohen
We're there.
Joy Taylor
Let's get it done. I think T. Higgins is a fantastic football player and I want him on my football team. Whenever I'm in charge of a football team, I want T. Higgins.
Tomer Cohen
And so I'm going to do what.
Joy Taylor
I can to get T. Higgins. Our preference with T. Higgins is to do a long term agreement. Always has been. It continues to be and we'll work hard to get that done. Now they're another organization that I like what I'm hearing, but they have to hit on some draft picks. Now they've missed on some old line picks. If they again, if Cincinnati comes out and goes 4 for 4 with their four first four picks, then you can, you can. I have no problem taken big swings on, on, on contracts. But it does put pressure on the scouting department and the scouting director and the GM to hit on pick.
Albert Breer
So a couple things. We have a list of the highest paid non quarterbacks in the league, which is what he said. Chase is going to get Colin. There's some really good players on here who didn't make the playoffs last year. CD Lamb is the second highest paid.
Joy Taylor
Well, you hit on something years ago. The wide receiver bubble.
Albert Breer
Yeah. And Nick Bosa did not make the playoffs. A.J. brown was instrumental. Chris Jones good. Amaranth good. Tyreek Hill missed. Ayuk got hurt. And it gets worse. T. Higgins saw these comments right where he's like, oh, T. Higgins both. He, he just put a baseball cap which among the young people you Know, you know, like, because you say stand on business, cap means you're lying. That's not truthful. And he's calling out the Bengals right there. And it's a shame Ryan Music's not back.
Joy Taylor
One of the reasons I never wear caps, because I'm always telling the truth.
Albert Breer
Honesty broker.
Tomer Cohen
Right?
Albert Breer
That's.
Joy Taylor
That's. Never see me in a cap.
Albert Breer
T. Higgins, will I. I'll put it. You want to predict it now? I don't think he plays for the Bengals. I don't know where he's going to be. He's going to have options. I mean, Patriots could. If Patriots get him.
Joy Taylor
I think New England feels like the fifth to me. New England's the fifth play with Drake.
Albert Breer
Maybe they get Travis Hunter. All of a sudden, you get T. Higgins, Travis Hunter, Drake may.
Joy Taylor
Different ball game.
Albert Breer
There's something there.
Joy Taylor
Final story.
Albert Breer
Colin is your guy. Anthony Richardson. Oh, boy. Two seasons hasn't been great. A lot of injuries, a lot of poor play, a lot of bad missed screen passes. At the combine, GM Chris Ballard talked about bringing in a quarterback this offseason to create competition and serve as insurance for Richardson's availability. It's got to be the right guy to create real competition, but we want to create real competition. I think it's good for the team. I think it's good for Anthony. Like, when we draft, we drafted Anthony High knowing it was gonna take some time, all right. And we knew there's gonna be some hiccups along the way. You know, I know we all want a finished product right now. I do. You do, fans do. We all do. But I think as he continues to progress in his young career, us adding competition, I think will. Will help up everybody's game.
Joy Taylor
Yeah, he should have competition.
Albert Breer
I didn't realize. 47%.
Joy Taylor
No, no, no. It's a real. It's a Tebow issue in that there's some athletic things. You like. You like the person, you like the kid work ethic. But there you got it. The line. The line in the league is you got to get to 60, 61%. If you're below that, then you have to be so extraordinary as a runner, which he is, but he also gets dinged up.
Albert Breer
You're telling me Trey Lance couldn't put up these kind of crap numbers? Come on.
Joy Taylor
Well, I think Anthony is. He's a better athlete than Trey, certainly.
Tomer Cohen
Yeah.
Albert Breer
But again, that doesn't help him. Complete screen passes.
Joy Taylor
There's a lot to like about him. But in the end, in this league, he. He act. Anthony Richardson is the opposite of Shador San he's got everything but the accuracy. Shedeur is missing a lot of big arm and big but he's really accurate so and the truth is I am if you can complete that's why I've always said with Kirk Cousins stable accurate I can win a lot of games. I can win a division. I may not win the best division but there's always a couple of divisions that you look at and you're like, like. Like C.J. stroud. He could. He could win that division. I don't think CJ's going up against Burrow and Lamar in winning a division but I think Anthony, you gotta get the accuracy to 61.
Albert Breer
What if the Colts made a run at Russell Wilson? Why they need to create competition. Russ is a grown up he's a mature veteran. No they're bringing in somebody Colin that.
Joy Taylor
Just that feels like you're bringing in a bunch of stuff that will be headlines and media and I don't want that her Cousins. I don't think that Cousins and Anthony are two different players. The offense would look different from one to the next Sam Darnold that would.
Albert Breer
Be more than he would be there.
Joy Taylor
Sam Darnold Raiders or Colts is the.
Albert Breer
Answer if the Colts go Sam Darnold they're saying we're done with Anthony Richardson.
Joy Taylor
And it's you're I think they would compete for the division. No question. Sam Darnold of the Colts is the play. Are you done?
Tomer Cohen
Yes, sir.
Joy Taylor
J. Mack with the news. Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd line news throw it out there again. They're the kids are saying this is it's the greatest list ever compiled in cable television history. I said New York, Louisiana. Chicago, three biggest American cities. Who are the dynamic dozen? The biggest profiles, the biggest stars. Pushback, I'm told I haven't watched that pushback on no Jalen Brunson. I'd probably put him at 13. I put Rick Pitino instead who's been a rock star in coaching forever. Some of these players are past their prime. Most aren't. Some aren't winning enough. Caleb Williams. But Caleb Williams is the reason that everybody thought the Chicago Bears were one of the more fascinating teams in the league last year. He was the only reason it wasn't the coaching staff of the other players. So it's Shohei, LeBron Luka number three. Those are global stars and it's Harbaugh, Aaron Judge, Stafford McVeigh, Soto Betts, Caleb Williams, Justin Herbert, Rick Patino I thought Freddie Freeman at number 13 for the Dodgers. Number 14, Brunson, maybe. Flip it. Justin Herbert's quiet, but he is a quarterback in Los Angeles in the National Football League. You're making the list if you're a, you know, a top young quarterback star. J. Mack, I haven't gone to the Interweb today, nor will I. I'm not sure.
Albert Breer
Smart. Smart move.
Joy Taylor
I just read an article.
Albert Breer
If you delete the Internet from your phone for two weeks, like your life improves dramatically. Two weeks is a long time.
Joy Taylor
Well, you and I both. When we go on vacation, stay off.
Albert Breer
It the best I can. Now, March Madness is coming up. By the way, three and one on college basketball picks last night.
Joy Taylor
Give me one of the ones you picked last night.
Albert Breer
Yeah, I missed on Tennessee, but the others hit. It was like a couple Moneyline parlay. Listen, man, it's not that obscure. I'm going for bigger games now. Texas tonight is a pick.
Joy Taylor
The SEC is so deep.
Albert Breer
They are.
Joy Taylor
They are. I mean, the eighth team in the sec, is it better than the second team in the Big Ten?
Albert Breer
I don't know about better than second, but better than a lot of the Big Ten. College hoops is getting good, but bottom line, I can't delete the Internet from my phone till after March Madness. You know, that's. That's a big month for gambling, even for you, right?
Joy Taylor
Yeah, I follow your Creighton and Xavier pics every day. See you tomorrow. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser Podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country, and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out, and you can learn more by following OTs. UpWithHate.
Albert Breer
Welcome to my legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.
Colin Cowherd
Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta Gupta, and Billy Porter.
Joy Taylor
Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio.
Tomer Cohen
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Joy Taylor
This is my legacy.
Mary Kay McBrayer
I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now, women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers, and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice, and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Colin Cowherd
What if you ask two different people the same set of questions? Even if the questions are the same, our experiences can lead us to drastically different answers. I'm Minidriver and I set out to explore this idea in my podcast, and now Mini Questions is returning for another season. We've asked an entirely new set of guests our seven questions, including Jane Lynch, Delaney Rowe and Cord Jefferson. Listen to Mini questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Seven questions limitless answer.
Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 3: Around the NFL
Release Date: February 26, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.
In this episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," hosts Joy Taylor, Albert Breer, and Tomer Cohen delve into the latest developments surrounding the NFL. From quarterback negotiations to player satisfaction within teams, the discussion offers deep insights into the current state of the league.
Timestamp: [02:28]
The conversation kicks off with updates on the San Francisco 49ers and their quarterback, Brock Purdy. There are ongoing negotiations regarding a long-term extension for Purdy, amidst a shifting market landscape for NFL quarterbacks.
Tomer Cohen highlights the challenges the 49ers face:
"Now you got nine quarterbacks making over $50 million per year. The Niners obviously have a lot of mouths to feed... And I have confidence they'll get something done with Brock Purdy. The question is on what the timing looks like..."
[02:51]
Joy Taylor probes further into Purdy's situation:
"We have started negotiations. We're talking. I won't go into negotiations... as long as we're here and beyond."
[29:15]
Albert Breer anticipates significant developments:
"I have a feeling this is gonna be an eye-popping number when it comes out and you're gonna probably do two days blasting Purdy and the organization."
[29:41]
Timestamp: [04:17]
Joy Taylor shifts focus to Sam Darnold, the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. Speculation surrounds his future and the Vikings' handling of his contract.
Tomer Cohen explains the complexity:
"I think the number, the lump sum number for the franchise tag being over $40 million a year complicates it... They’d like to have Sam back... but there's a limit to how far they're willing to go with Sam."
[04:49]
Joy questions the Vikings' strategy:
"Why'd you give away picks for J.J. McCarthy? Is it an injury thing?... What do you make of the stories the Vikings are considering options to do the Sam Darnold contract and it not be a franchise tag?"
[04:49]
Tomer elaborates on potential outcomes:
"The most likely scenario remains Sam goes to the market and then they see what Sam's market is and they make a decision accordingly."
[05:25]
Timestamp: [07:02]
The discussion turns to Matt Stafford and rumors of his connection with the Las Vegas Raiders. Joy Taylor speculates on the financial and strategic implications of Stafford potentially joining the Raiders.
Joy Taylor outlines the Raiders' appeal:
"Pete Carroll. Chip Kelly, Max Crosby... Brock Bowers, which is a transcendent weapon... Raiders give you four years... that could be a $60, $70 million swing."
[07:55]
Tomer Cohen evaluates the feasibility:
"I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in that a big part of this is bringing in the big money guys... But the bigger question is... what does this look like two or three years from now?"
[09:42]
Joy agrees but expresses caution:
"Albert, like, I would listen to that if I was Matt Stafford. Would you?"
[07:55]
Tomer Cohen adds:
"The one question, if you are going to acquire Matthew Stafford, has to be, what does this look like two or three years from now?"
[09:42]
Timestamp: [09:42]
Joy Taylor introduces the NFL Players Association (NFLPA) Report Card, revealing player sentiments towards their organizations. Notably, the Pittsburgh Steelers received low grades, surprising many given their historical reputation.
Tomer Cohen provides analysis:
"Part of Pittsburgh's problem is they're in an older facility... A lot of that survey is based on what your physical building looks like."
[10:14]
He continues to discuss the broader implications:
"Most players are pretty happy with their head coaches... but the Steelers stand out negatively, likely due to their facility."
[11:40]
Joy reflects on the findings:
"I always thought Tomlin was a pro player organization. That one jumped out to me."
[10:14]
Timestamp: [15:00]
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Shador Sanders and his standing in the NFL Draft. Concerns about his athleticism and arm strength are weighed against his accuracy and game intelligence.
Joy Taylor expresses doubts:
"Shador Sanders is much closer to Baker Mayfield as a pure talent than he is Josh Allen."
[17:14]
Tomer Cohen elaborates on his potential:
"Are you going to be able to level up and compete on the highest level? That's the concern with Shador."
[19:09]
Albert Breer adds context on drafting quarterbacks:
"Are you going to be able to level up and compete on the highest level?"
[19:09]
Joy counters with quarterback stability importance:
"If I bring Kirk Cousins into your organization... I just don't want drama at quarterback."
[21:15]
Timestamp: [33:39]
The hosts discuss the Cincinnati Bengals' strategy in retaining their star receivers, Ja’Marr Chase and T. Higgins, amidst salary cap pressures and performance expectations.
Joy Taylor emphasizes priority:
"Jamar is always going to be our priority. He's a fantastic football player."
[34:03]
Tomer Cohen agrees on securing top talent:
"Our preference with T. Higgins is to do a long-term agreement... if Cincinnati goes 4 for 4 with their first four picks, then you can take big swings on contracts."
[34:12]
Albert Breer points out salary dynamics:
"We have a list of the highest-paid non-quarterbacks in the league... Ja’Marr Chase is going to get Colin."
[34:47]
Joy underscores the importance of high-paid receivers to the Bengals' success:
"T. Higgins is a fantastic football player and I want him on my football team."
[34:13]
Timestamp: [20:33]
The conversation returns to the broader topic of quarterback stability within NFL teams. Joy Taylor compares Shador Sanders to Jared Goff, advocating for reliable but less dynamic quarterbacks to maintain organizational stability.
Joy Taylor on quarterback importance:
"If I can, like I always said, Kirk Cousins, you bring Kirk Cousins into your organization. Is the ceiling low? Yeah, but the floor is so high."
[22:15]
Tomer Cohen discusses potential contracts:
"He could come in and stabilize that position for a team... Is he going to get to a second contract or are you going to be left in year three wanting for more?"
[19:10]
Joy reiterates the value of stability over high ceilings:
"There's a reason why so many quarterbacks in the NFL go to Wyoming, Texas Tech, Miami, Ohio, Cal... it makes Shador more attractive."
[16:08]
Timestamp: [33:39]
Returning to the Bengals, the hosts assess the team's ongoing efforts to retain star players amidst high compensation demands.
Joy Taylor on player retention:
"Jamar is always going to be our priority. He's a fantastic football player. He's going to end up being the number one paid non-quarterback in the league."
[34:03]
Tomer Cohen discusses long-term agreements:
"Our preference with T. Higgins is to do a long-term agreement. Always has been and continues to be."
[34:12]
Albert Breer notes the financial implications:
"We have a list of the highest-paid non-quarterbacks in the league... Ja’Marr Chase is going to get Colin."
[34:47]
Timestamp: [40:09] - [42:56]
As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts engage in lighter banter about personal habits, March Madness predictions, and briefly touch upon other media topics. Advertisements and promotions are interspersed, which are outside the scope of the core content. The episode wraps up with a final mention of the NFLPA Report Card and ongoing team dynamics.
Tomer Cohen on 49ers’ contract challenges:
"Now you got nine quarterbacks making over $50 million per year. The Niners obviously have a lot of mouths to feed..."
[02:51]
Joy Taylor on Shador Sanders:
"Shador Sanders is much closer to Baker Mayfield as a pure talent than he is Josh Allen."
[17:14]
Albert Breer on Steelers' dissatisfaction:
"Part of Pittsburgh's problem is they're in an older facility that's attached to the Pitt facility."
[10:14]
Joy Taylor advocating for quarterback stability:
"If I can, like I always said, Kirk Cousins, you bring Kirk Cousins into your organization. Is the ceiling low? Yeah, but the floor is so high."
[22:15]
Tomer Cohen on the Raiders’ acquisition strategy:
"I think a big part of this is bringing in the big money guys, having his own partner... Adding Matthew Stafford at quarterback, I think would make some sense."
[09:42]
This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" provides an in-depth analysis of several pressing NFL topics, from quarterback contracts and team strategies to player satisfaction within organizations. The hosts offer a blend of expert insights and candid opinions, making it a valuable listen for fans seeking a comprehensive understanding of the league's current landscape.