Joy Taylor (3:36)

Now let's get this party started.

Colin Cowherd (3:38)

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back. Interesting stuff from Bill Belichick in the CBS interview. Very interesting, but first, J. Mac with the news.

Joy Taylor (3:53)

No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.

Chris Broussard (3:58)

Yeah, I don't like this Belichick thing, but we'll get to it later. Let's start with the Houston Rockets. Colin man, two straight tough losses. Despite largely outplaying Golden State for part of the game, they're now down three one. Big game tonight in Houston. Ime Udoka said he would take a look at everything, saying that the starters were so bad, you know, he's talking Jalen Green that it's unclear who that Houston will be starting in game five. Now, I don't think they can make a ton of different moves, but I think for sure throughout this game, Colin, when you watch it, start thinking, okay, who would I trade to get Giannis? Who would I trade to get Kevin Durant? I know Houston fans don't want to hear that, but that's the reality.

Colin Cowherd (4:40)

Yeah, I mean, I, Jalen Green to me has no defined offensive game. I would move him. He's the classic super athletic guy. Could have used really great coaching, maybe at college level, but I just don't know what he is other than athletic. I would move him. Obviously, if you're getting Giannis, you could maybe move a big Sengoon maybe. But I mean, there's certain players, I mean, I, I, I think Houston is basically a less talented version of OKC and OKC is. Yup. So I mean, it's like I got sga, you've got Jalen Green. I know exactly what I get from SGA every game. I mean, I just think Houston's going to be really, really good. They're not getting through okc. Okc's arguably got the better general manager. Okc's got a great coach, they got the better star. I mean, they got the better number two star in Holmgren or Chad Holmgren. So to me, this is great Houston, but you're not getting past OKC just in terms of the young western powerhouses.

Chris Broussard (5:45)

They're a little, they're a year early. Now there is a report that Amen Thompson, they are telling Houston's selling teams, he's untouchable. We're not trading him. And I like that. I know you would push back, but I'm just telling you, man, he is a potential superstar in this league. But I would consider for sure Jalen Green, Shen Goon, three first round picks and give us Giannis. I don't know if that's enough. Milwaukee will say we want more.

Colin Cowherd (6:06)

Well, I mean, if you could get Jalen Green, Shen Goon in three first round picks, that's pretty good.

Chris Broussard (6:13)

Well, also it's not bad if you're Milwaukee because those are two young cornerstone pieces. Like in the east you're going to be top six with those guys you are like, that's a top six team in the East. In the West, I don't know. I like Rockets tonight. I think you do as well. Next up, Colin. Coming off the NFL draft, the betting market has made Cam Ward and Ashta Genti the co favorites to take home the Offensive Rookie of the Year award. Here are the remaining top five and some notables. So initially I had said I like Omarion Hampton, but I forgot that they also have Najee Harris. So it could be a split backfield error with the Chargers. Any names jump out to you. Obviously, I think Cam Ward's got to be the favorite. He's starting from day one. Could put up big numbers in the Callahan offense.

Colin Cowherd (6:58)

Yeah, that one seems fairly, fairly obvious. I also think jets in Miami. I don't know, I. No, I, I'm looking into that division. I mean, two of the three guys up there are in the AFC South. I could see Travis Hunter being exceptional and Cam Ward. Here's an Ashton Genty problem. Will the Raiders trail late in games? Will they? Yeah. So my take is when you trail, Ashton Genti won't get the touches. Travis Hunter and Cam Ward, if they trail late, will get the touches. Yeah, T Mac will get the touches. So. And I do think you're right on Hampton splitting it with Najee Harris. Although I think Hampton will emerge as the number one back. But I like a player in terms of awards that will be in close games and possibly have to perform. I could see Ashton Genty getting really good first half numbers and then you're playing Mahomes and Herbert and Bo Nicks with Gino and you're behind.

Chris Broussard (8:03)

So how about this theory? Shedeur is plus 2500. I don't think he's going to have a chance. However, Colin and somebody came on my podcast and made this very clear. Listen, if there's a quarterback hurt around the league, guess what? The Cleveland Browns have Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco as potential trade bait. Right. You, yesterday, I think, said that Pickett and Flacco are probably two of the best eight backup quarterbacks in the league. So maybe you trade one. If Jake Baker Mayfield gets hurt, you trade one and then Shador moves up and there's a world where, shucks, desean Watson's out, we traded Flacco or Pickett is Shador number two, does he get a lot of starts? So I don't know. Can you get behind that logic or is that a bridge too far?

Colin Cowherd (8:46)

No, I, I can't. I just, I think the Shador story at this point, point is more interesting than it is productive. I, I want to watch. I think it's going to be really interesting. I don't think he starts game one.

Chris Broussard (8:59)

That's a smart, nuanced take. Final story. College is college football. How about this? Reports indicate that Texas Longhorns will spend, wait for it, 35 to 40 million dollars on their football roster for 2025. At what point is too much in the nil world? According to the report, their source mentions that the current model is unsustainable, adding the next season after next year, the whole world will be back to reality. I don't know why that will happen. 35 to 40 million. That's a. I think that's a bigger payroll than several MLB baseball teams in the.

Colin Cowherd (9:36)

I mean, this is what, this is what people are complaining about in Major League Baseball right now. The Dodgers and Yankees have separated. Maybe Steve Cohen and the Mets. You know, again, the NCAA knew that paying football players was coming a decade ago and dragged their feet. Why? I mean, this idea that you can't make changes. We had Texas, Oklahoma go to the SEC suddenly and four PAC 12, the PAC 12 dissolves suddenly. So, I mean, this is just the NCAA. I don't blame Ohio State last year spending 20 million or Texas next year spending 40. I don't blame the school. Boy, that's a lot of pressure on Sark. $40 million would be almost double what Ohio State paid.

Chris Broussard (10:17)

But they made the playoff two years in a row, I believe.

Colin Cowherd (10:19)

Right.

Chris Broussard (10:19)

Lost to Washington maybe, and then lost this past year. They should be back in the playoffs with Arc Manning.

Colin Cowherd (10:28)

Yes, I, I think I, I do. You know what's interesting about this price tag? Brian Kelly goes to lsu, and you think LSU will do whatever it takes to win. And, and they didn't. Alabama's fallen behind on nil. They just don't have that. They don't have the base of wealthy donors, lsu. I mean, Brian Kelly basically had to go to the big donors and say, we're losing quarterbacks to Michigan. We need $10 million. So the reality is how many schools can pay 35 to 40 million? Oregon with Phil Knight could.

Chris Broussard (10:59)

That's right.

Colin Cowherd (11:00)

Texas could. I mean, I know this. USC has gotten closer to 20 million than 15 in the last several months. Six months. That's what I've been told. No, I mean, I think, I mean, just in college basketball, the number is 4 million. If you spend 4, you can compete at the highest level. I mean, what, what is the college football number? Is it going to be 30? If they're spending 40, then the number is probably 25 million. To be, to be at the highest level. I'm just, there's not many schools.

Chris Broussard (11:34)

I'm pretty sure USC lost the kid branch because he wanted more nil. And USC's like, Whoa, we can't, you know, like at some point you've got to pull back. But I think you're right. Other than Tennessee, how many teams can spend in upwards of 25 mil?

Colin Cowherd (11:47)

What?

Chris Broussard (11:47)

FSU? University of Florida, I don't know.

Colin Cowherd (11:50)

Oregon.

Chris Broussard (11:51)

Oregon.

Colin Cowherd (11:53)

That's about it. J. Mac with the news.

Joy Taylor (11:56)

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.

Colin Cowherd (12:01)

All right, Chris Broussard on the show after us is now joining us live. Okay, so Zach Lowe came out and said. He said it on a podcast at the Ringer. He said, listen, Luca is getting worked early in these series. And it's not that trading Luca was crazy. It's that they got nothing back. And that at some point. Our staff showed me this this morning. Brew Luka had 25 dunks as a rookie. He has two in the last two years. There is some athletic decline it's something. And what do you make of his performance in this series?

Joy Taylor (12:38)

No, that's a great point. I thought that was interesting what Zach said, that smart people in some corners of the NBA understand why they traded him. Like you said, you just want to get more. I would not have traded him. I still feel that way. But there's no question when you look at some of his highlights in earlier years as a rookie, his second year, he was dunking on people. He was taking people off the dribble and dunking on them like he did not look that unathletic. And now he does. There's just no ifs, ands or buts about it. And I think the feeling, Colin, is, is that even though he's only 26, there's a feeling that his prime will be a lot shorter.

Colin Cowherd (13:22)

Yes.

Joy Taylor (13:22)

Than, you know, other players like that. He's got maybe three, four more years. Now, I'm not saying this is right, but there's a feeling out there. He's got three, four more years at, you know, as one of the top five players in the league and then it's over after that. Defensively, obviously you see the problem and I get it, he's not incredibly quick and athletic. But what his problem defensively is that not only is he bad defensively, but he's disinterested most of the time. If he's bad and interested, then you can make yourself a decent defender. Steph Curry, Steve Nash, bad defenders, but interested defenders. So what that means is they communicate. They make sure they're in the right position on the floor and they become passable on that side of the ball. Luka, when he wants to be, is passable as a defender, but most of the time he doesn't. He's disinterested and that's a problem. So I say Lucas needs to win A championship before LeBron falls off. Because there's no guarantee, Colin, that he will have another teammate as good as even a 40 year old LeBron is. And so every year that he doesn't win it because of his greatness and because of the things that came out of Dallas as to why they traded him, the pressure is going to get higher and higher every single year on him until he wins the championship.

Colin Cowherd (14:48)

By the way, Ant shot 83% when guarded by Luca in game four. Now it wasn't a lot, but it shows you now the series, that's been fascinating. I took the Rockets over the Warriors. I said youth, athleticism, depth, it's all three of the warriors best players are all mid 30s and I don't know what Pods is going to give you and Kaminga is in the doghouse. It just, I am actually surprised by the outcome is that I've said this about Jalen Green. He's an athlete. I'm not sure he's a great basketball player. He's an amazing athlete. The Jalen Green stuff, he has disappeared in three of the four games. Are you surprised by the outcomes here?

Joy Taylor (15:30)

Not at all. I was 99.8% certain Golden State was going to win this series. Like I just felt it in my bones because of the experience gap. Like I think Houston has had a phenomenal year. I think going forward they will definitely emerge as a legit contender. Shingoon is great. You're right. Jalen has a lot to learn and his inexperience is showing. 7 points, 8 points, 38 points, 9 points. And you just can't have that in the playoffs from your leading score. So that's inexperience showing. But Golden State, not only are you inexperienced, you're facing a four time champion plus playoff. Jimmy Butler, who smells it. He feels like this is my best chance ever to win a championship. If you look at those teams he led to the finals in the east one year. Tyler Herro was hurt. He had Bam Adebayou and a bunch of role players that are having trouble getting on playing time on their new teams. Gabe Vincent, Caleb Martin and he led them to the finals and took Anthony Davis and LeBron to six games in the finals. Now he's actually got a squad with some real talent and a good coach. And Steve Kerr, he smells it and that's why I'm not surprised at all. I thought it would be tough and hard fought because Udoka is great and the Rockets do play great defense. But I just thought the inexperience gap or the experience gap was going to be too much for them to overcome. And they'll learn from this. This is great for them going forward.

Colin Cowherd (17:05)

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Joy Taylor (19:43)

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Joy Taylor (22:16)

Yeah. First of all, I think. Great point about the Celtics. Look, obviously Jayson Tatum is more exciting to watch than Tim Duncan, but I do think it's similar in terms of we're underwhelmed with Tatum even though he's great. And if they win the championship this year, Colin, we do have to say, okay, what do we do with Jason Tatum? You know, as far as ranking him, historically ranking him in the league right now. As far as the Cavs, I said yesterday on first things first, Cavs winning the East. I've got the Cavs winning the east now and I know it's going to be tough. Maybe I'm a little out there far because I'm from Cleveland. But they, you don't see teams humiliate, to use your word, the Heat like they did. And I get it. The Heat clearly quit in game four. You don't get beat by 60 essentially if you don't quit in the NBA playoffs. However, Cleveland made them quit in game three when they went like Game two was only a nine point win for the Cavs in Cleveland. So Miami's thinking, okay, we can make this thing a series going home. Cleveland smacks them by 37 points and then the Heat knew it was over and they quit. And so just to make Miami quit like that is impressive. You they did it without Darius Garland who was an all star guard who's been out with the toe injury. They've got the superstar that can create his own shot when all else fails in Donovan Mitchell. They've got another great guard in Garland, guards off the bench in Streuss and ty Jerome and DeAndre Hunter's a great six man and then they've got the size at the rim and Mobley and Jared Allen. They defend the paint and the three point line. They move the ball like they are legit. And they have also Collin, which is what Houston hasn't done and maybe even OKC to some degree. They have taken their lumps. They lost two years ago in the first round of the playoffs. They lost last year in the second round of the playoffs. And now they, you know, the questions were are they tough enough? Do they shrink? They've gone through all that so now I think they are ready. They kind of remind me. And look, I know this is going to be an overstatement, but when Golden State won it in 2015 we looked at them like good team, 50 win team. But second round at best they get a new coach, he comes in, inserts a new offense and then they just take off and surprise everybody by winning the championship. That kind of reminds me of these Cavs in that they were a good team, a 50 win team. They had a good coach before in Bickerstaff, but Atkinson comes in there, does some things differently and they go to a level that we didn't think they had. And I'm giving them a legit shot to win the east and even maybe win the finals. So yeah, I Believe in the Cavs.

Colin Cowherd (25:19)

Finally, let's talk Knicks a year ago. The Pistons are in a rebuild and the Knicks think, hey, we got Mikhail Bridges, we can challenge the Celtics. I watch them, it's the same team. I think the Knicks are an inch better. One of the reasons they are in a good spot as a franchise, they were patient. Is it time to acknowledge they're not close to Cleveland or Boston or okc? The patience thing was wonderful but it is now time for a big swing in the off season.

Joy Taylor (25:49)

Yeah, I mean look, if they can get Giannis, you know, who may be available this summer, then they got to go try to do it. Maybe even you look at a Kevin Durant. I agree with. They're not going to beat Cleveland or Boston. They just aren't. I mean they're struggling. I got them in seven, I picked them in seven before the series. But obviously they're struggling with Detroit, which is to some degree was just happy to be in the playoffs this season. You look at their roster though, Colin, and they should be as good as Cleveland in Detroit. I love Jalen Brunson. He is a superstar level player. He just is. We don't think of him that way because he started off his career as a role player and all. He's got a very, you know, just a normal regular person personality it seems. But he is a superstar. But one thing they are going to have to look at I think going forward is he's probably too ball dominant and I don't think that's, that's selfishness. I just think he dribbles the ball too much. You look at their talent, they've got not just Kat but Anunobi, other guys that can average 20 points a game. Bridges, Hart, they probably need to be a more egalitarian style offense where they're getting everybody involved and it's not just Brunson doing it all and creating for everybody else. I think that'll help take them to the next level.

Colin Cowherd (27:13)

Chris Broussard show after us. Excellent stuff, Bru. Appreciate it, buddy.

Joy Taylor (27:18)

Thanks Colin. See it?

Colin Cowherd (27:20)

You bet. Yeah. I think I haven't touched much on the Halberton's dad Giannis story today. It's obviously inappropriate but it, it has just been, it's just been a bad two week stretch for dads. I mean it was Shador Sanders like, I don't need an agent. I'll take dad's advice. He got bad advice. Doesn't mean Dion's a bad father. He just gave bad advice. Nico Iamaliava doesn't mean he's a bad dad. Probably gave his son bad advice and, like. Like, I don't know Halliburton's dad at all. I just don't think I would confront a superstar player that could eliminate me very quickly. Thank God Giannis has a more even temperament. I just, you know, it's just doesn't make you a bad dad. It's just bad judgment or bad opinions or it's just wildly inappropriate. And at some point, I think this all the time. Basketball, college or pro fans have the greatest access. I mean, in hockey, you got the glass. Football, you're miles away again. Baseball, you're. Except for, like, Fenway park, you usually have a lot of space. Basketball, you're on the floor. So security levels are here. Was, by the way, Giannis on Trace Holliburton's dad. One thing I'll say is that I believe, like, being humble in victory, that's the way I am. I love Titus. I think he's a great competitor. He was his dad. Sorry. Coming in the floor and showing me his son a towel with his face. This is what we do. This is what we effing do this. If we do this, I feel like.

Joy Taylor (29:02)

That'S very, very disrespectful.

Colin Cowherd (29:04)

The emotions of the game just got excited there.

Joy Taylor (29:07)

But I talked to him.

Colin Cowherd (29:09)

I'll talk with Giannis eventually about it. Just, you know, I don't think that my pops was in the right at all there. For the record, Halliburton voted most overrated player in the league. Not so much in that series. Belichick. That being Bill. Talking about the CBS interview that went sideways. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And, of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture.

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Joy Taylor (31:38)

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Joy Taylor (31:54)

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Joy Taylor (32:22)

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Chris Broussard (37:02)

People are giving an unfair reality of what's going on because she was jumping into that conversation during the interview.

Colin Cowherd (37:10)

Just like any PR person would jump in when there's an unnecessary question that.

Chris Broussard (37:15)

Probably didn't go over in the pre production meeting.

Colin Cowherd (37:17)

When you look at this situation and you say, oh, this is his girlfriend jumping in, I think that's unfair. I think she's actually working with Coach.

Chris Broussard (37:24)

Belichick in the professional world and she.

Colin Cowherd (37:26)

Probably went and said hey, no we're not doing that. Yeah, that, that's how I feel now. What does it look like to NFL teams? Probably not PC. Like, I could see an NFL owner and the wife saying, this is not who's going to run our franchise. Like, this is not going to play. I could totally see that. I just think they're very strong families. And if you think Belich's a control freak, some of these billionaires double down on that. I mean, that Belichick has said as much, that there's multiple stories where Belichick has just said people around him, he's just tired of not having control. The truth is, Belichick had total control in New England at the end, and frankly, it hurt him. He had too much control with personnel. Belichick shouldn't have as much control. Pete Carroll's a good coach. One of the reasons he had problems in Seattle is he was taking control of the personnel in the draft to a degree in which John Snyder and the organization weren't happy and they had some bad drafts. So I don't think coaches in the NFL should be making the picks. I think right now, San Francisco, I think Kyle Shanahan has too much power in San Francisco. I did not like the Niners draft. They've had too many misses the last three years. So I think, I think Belichick, Pete Carroll, and these are great coaches. And Shanahan, I think you're better served letting the scouting department, the gm, run the draft and have a huge say as well. So. By the way, Gruden in with the Raiders, when he was with the Raiders, had final say. Their drafts were a mess. So, you know, it's, it's hard enough to be a great GM or a great coach individually. To do both, I think is virtually impossible. Andy Reid, by the way, famously, Brett Ve runs the show. I'll do the games. But this, this whole thing is just, you know, it is, people are not comfortable with, you know, it's different. I, I, what, what do you call him?

Chris Broussard (39:21)

What do you make of this?

Colin Cowherd (39:21)

It is interesting, though, and I, I feel sort of a Bob Knight thing here and a little bit of a Tony LaRussa thing. When you have success and you get older and stuff changes. I mean, analytics have changed baseball, and there's no question in the NFL it went from a defensive league. It was a run game defensive league until the NFL had to write a 8,900 million dollars CTE check and it got offensive very quickly. Bill did not age well. He didn't. I mean, Bob Knight, I Don't want to do one and done. He did not age well. So it doesn't matter how brilliant you are if you're not willing to adapt. The greatest businessman can look outdated very quickly. It's the guy. It's the guy 25 years ago. I'm not using the Internet. Bye, bye. Everybody's using the Internet, Colin.

Chris Broussard (40:12)

This was a fun story when it was like, hey, Bill Belichick, UNC from the NFL to college. Oh, exciting. And now it's kind of become about this 24 year old girl who's with him in interrupting negotiations with HBO over Hard knocks, interrupting a CBS interview. I was totally on board for Belichick. I just think at this point UNC is probably internally being like, guys, is this what we bargained for? I don't want to say we're a laughingstock, but anybody who talks about this like, oh yeah, 76 year old guy, 24 year old girlfriend, who's now controlling the head coach of a major college football program.

Colin Cowherd (40:47)

Well, if you hire Belichick, the idea that he's going to go down the line and run his program like you want him to run it, I mean, by bringing Mike Lombardi over. Mike Lombardi is a gruff, blunt, bottom line, Belichick disciple. So Bill hired a younger version of Bill, but a football guy. Yeah, a pro football guy through and through. I have no problem with that. I think college, the new model of college is GMs and paying players. It feels like about 50 to 60%. It feels like pro football.

Joy Taylor (41:26)

Yeah.

Chris Broussard (41:27)

Colin, I just wonder like, you know, we should talk to Woj about this because I did have him on my podcast. He's now like the GM of Saint Bonaventure basketball. Okay, I'm sorry, but I don't think he's on the court with the coach talking strategy the way you saw the 24 year old girl walking into the middle of practice up to belichick, like, hey, CEOs are not seen. Right. They're just maybe heard behind the scenes. They're not on the field front and center, are they?

Colin Cowherd (41:52)

If they go 40 to start the season right and then they're playing Clemson the next week, will any of this matter?

Chris Broussard (42:01)

No.

Colin Cowherd (42:01)

Like this is, this is the first off season. Once the games start, if Bill's. That's what I'm fascinated by. I know that's not interesting to me is I always felt that Bill was brilliant. But College allows you 17 hours a week to practice. There's limitations. That's why college coaches, the ones like Saban that have personalities and can coach are at an advantage. Bill doesn't have the personality so his greatness is schematic excellence and details. You're dealing with 19 year old kids and you get 17 hours a week. The teams are just going to the best college teams can be sloppy.

Chris Broussard (42:40)

Yeah, Colin, listen, I'm going to say something. I don't want to get myself in trouble. You said earlier this week everybody wants to go viral, didn't you? With the young kid in the prank call.

Colin Cowherd (42:47)

Yeah, yeah.

Chris Broussard (42:48)

I'll just leave it at that.

Colin Cowherd (42:50)

All right. All right.

Chris Broussard (42:52)

I hope that wasn't mean. I just. It's looking a little suspicious.

Colin Cowherd (42:58)

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