Hour 3 - Kyle Van Noy

Summary

Summary of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3: Kyle Van Noy"

Release Date: March 18, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Guest: Kyle Van Noy
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Introduction to Kyle Van Noy and His NFL Journey

The episode kicks off with Colin Cowherd introducing Kyle Van Noy, highlighting his impressive NFL career spanning five different teams and his productivity across all of them. Van Noy's accolades, including 11 career sacks and two Super Bowl championships with the New England Patriots, set the stage for a comprehensive discussion on his professional experiences.

Notable Quote:
Colin Cowherd [02:06]: "He’s been in the NFL five different teams and yet he's productive with all of them."

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2. Free Agency Insights and Player Dynamics

Colin delves into Kyle's perspective on free agency, emphasizing the importance of understanding team strategies and player contracts. They discuss the impact of significant player signings within divisions, such as Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, and how these moves influence competition.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [02:52]: "I got to spend some time with Jamar Chase at the Pro Bowl and Joe Burrow, two very extraordinary young men in this game that are just going to grow even more."

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3. Leadership and Team Fit with the Ravens

Kyle reflects on his tenure with the Baltimore Ravens, attributing his success to the leadership of Coach John Harbaugh and owner Steve Bisciotti. He emphasizes the "fit" within the team and the supportive environment that allowed him to excel.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [03:53]: "My mindset's different. I believe that every day when I wake up, it's different. It's kind of our family model."

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4. Comparisons Between Quarterbacks: Lamar Jackson and Tom Brady

A significant portion of the conversation centers around quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and Tom Brady. Kyle praises both, highlighting their unique qualities and contributions to their respective teams. He contrasts Jackson's dynamic playstyle with Brady's methodical approach, showcasing his deep understanding and appreciation for quarterback roles.

Notable Quotes:
Kyle Van Noy [07:09]: "Tom was the first person that I met when I got traded to New England. Came up to me, shook my hand and said, my name's Tom Brady."
Kyle Van Noy [07:35]: "Lamar can just show up and play, and that's different. Nobody can do that. Only he can do that."

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5. Diet, Preparation, and Longevity in the NFL

Colin inquires about how Kyle's diet and preparation have evolved over his career, especially as he ages and deals with the physical toll of the sport. Kyle shares insights into his strict dietary regimen, including a recent 72-hour water fast, emphasizing the importance of feeling light and maintaining peak performance during the season.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [16:57]: "I start from the ground up, just like I did with my body. I work with my feet and go all the way up to my head."

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6. Rivalries and Respect for Opposing Players

The discussion shifts to Kyle's rivalries with specific teams and players, notably the Buffalo Bills and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He articulates his disdain for certain coaching styles and the competitive nature of these matchups, while also expressing deep respect for individual athletes' professionalism and skill.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [18:33]: "The disdain is getting back with that Raven-Steelers rivalry that we've been so accustomed to."

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7. Reflections on Past Teammates and Football Legends

Kyle reminisces about playing with and against football greats like Marshall Yoder and Calvin Johnson. He highlights their physicality, technique, and the lasting impact they've had on his approach to the game.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [20:07]: "Those guys, not necessarily like a little brute force, but those guys, technician-wise, those three were really, really good at their craft."

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8. NFL Draft Strategies and Team Needs

Colin and Kyle explore the complexities of the NFL Draft, discussing potential strategies the Dallas Cowboys might employ regarding star players like Micah Parsons. They debate the possibilities of trading high-value players for draft picks to strengthen other areas of the team.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [32:33]: "I think it's one of the three or four things they're considering."

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9. College Sports and Recruitment Insights

The conversation extends to college basketball, with Kyle expressing strong opinions on teams like BYU and their recruitment strategies. He underscores the importance of leadership from donors and boosters in developing successful athletic programs.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [25:03]: "I just played with the number one, one of the top golfer recruits the other day, Kehei. He was getting offers from Alabama and Oklahoma State. He ended up choosing BYU to stay close to home."

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10. NBA Updates and Personal Anecdotes

Towards the latter part of the episode, Colin and Kyle briefly touch upon recent NBA events, including player altercations and team performances. Kyle shares personal anecdotes about fan interactions, adding a lighter tone to the discussion.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [35:25]: "Those guys, not necessarily like a little brute force, but those guys, technician-wise, those three were really, really good at their craft."

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11. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

In the closing segment, Kyle offers advice to young athletes, emphasizing the importance of humility and hard work. He encourages aspiring players to listen, learn, and continuously seek improvement to succeed professionally.

Notable Quote:
Kyle Van Noy [14:03]: "Listen, you don't know everything. And to put your head down and work, and I'm... work smart and hard. Those are the two things I would say."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd provides a deep dive into Kyle Van Noy's experiences and insights within the NFL. From leadership dynamics and player rivalries to personal health regimes and advice for aspiring athletes, the conversation offers valuable perspectives for sports enthusiasts and those interested in the inner workings of professional football.

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Note: All timestamps correspond to the original podcast transcript for reference.

Transcript

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[Kyle Van Noy]

I mean the first thing I'm going to say is yes, because we saw Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, what they just got right. They're in our division. We have to watch that. I mean, that's amazing that they got those deals done up there. And at the amount that they did, they went all in on offense. So it was pretty crazy for a team to do it, but. But I'm happy for him. I got to spend some time with Jamar Chase at the Pro bowl and Joe Burrow, two very extraordinary young men in this game that are just going to grow even more. Just two really good dudes at what they do with their craft. And so I'm happy for them to get their money, but not happy when we have to play them twice a year.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it's interesting because I talked to you a year ago. I think it was before you signed with the Ravens. You ended up 12 and a half sacks, made your first Pro Bowl.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Let's go.

[Colin Cowherd]

So what it's interesting. That's not the way it usually works. Older.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yet you. So I'm. I'm going to say some of this, obviously a lot to you, but some of it had to be fit.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Was it?

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah. I think a little bit is about fit, but I also more think it's about mindset. My mindset's different. I believe that every day when I wake up, it's different. It's kind of our family model. With my wife and I, we're just built different. And that's the attitude that I brought into that building. I felt that I was a little disrespected by not getting any offers during that off season. I feel like I had performed at a high level my entire career, and then for nobody want to come after me, I was like, man, just because I turned over 30, you're gonna say, oh, he's old now. He's washed. But then when I got on the football field, it was the right fit. Chuck Smith, Coach Harbaugh. Really, really just kind of let me do my thing, really put that leadership role on me, and I was able to not think with Mike Mack, and now I don't have to think with Zachary Orr. They do a really good job that put me in positions to succeed, and I've really taken off. I play with a bunch of really good players like Roquan Smith, Kyle Hamilton, Namdi Matabike, and then Adafew Owe, and we just do our thing together. And I'm really grateful to be with the group. The core group that they have is something I haven't been around in the league to be honest. And they're special. Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Tyler Lindenbaum. Did you know Special.

[Colin Cowherd]

Did you know in camp when you guys acquired Derrick Henry? Could you tell in camp, oh, this is going to be a load.

[Kyle Van Noy]

I don't know if I want to say that, Colin, but I thought they were going to be really good. I thought the way that they were operating, the way that the offensive coordinator was calling plays during fall camp, you knew it was going to be a work in progress. Right. We saw the first game where people were a little unhappy against Kansas City at the time, but then it took off from there, and we really relied on both of them. And one thing I'll say about that duo is it was the first time, I believe, that they both played with superstars and they elevated each other because they knew they didn't have to do everything. But at the same time, when it was their time to shine, they took it up another level. And so that's something that I watched during the season. It was awesome. The leadership that Derrick Henry brings, the attitude he brings is exceptional. It exudes through the entire building. Everybody likes to be around those two. And Lamar Jackson is the best teammate. He hangs out with everybody.

[Colin Cowherd]

He does.

[Kyle Van Noy]

He knows everybody's name. He's a joy to be in the locker room. We know you talk very highly of him, and I'm sure he appreciates that you're one of his big cheerleaders in the media, even though he's had, you know, his downs in the playoffs. But I think that's part of his journey. I think that's part of the struggle that he's had just a little bit. I also think it's going to propel him. And the Lamar Jackson that I know, that I see every day, it's going to fuel him and get him better and better and better. We haven't even seen. We've seen just a little bit. I think he's got a whole nother level to go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I've said this. There's a lot of quarterbacks in the league. There's not a single quarterback that defines the city and the team. Like Lamar, like, I love Mahomes, but that's as much Andy Reid as anybody.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah, you couldn't make that argument.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, Yeah, I would. And by the way, I love Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. I honestly feel if I would have picked a culture and a city for Lamar Jackson to play in, it would have been always overlooked, often disrespected, tough, gritty Baltimore.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's just. It's weird. It's like he and you played with. You've played with great quarterbacks. That. The fact that he knows everybody's name, that's kind of a Brady thing.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah, it is. I mean, Tom was the first person that I met when I got traded to New England. Came up to me, shook my hand and said, my name's Tom Brady. And I wanted to be like, you idiot. I know who you are. Tom's great. He's a great teammate of yours now at Fox, doing a great job, speaking at games. I do think Lamar has that. I also think he has a different aura as well because of the play he has. He has that highlight, real play. So it's. It's a different. You know, he does. Madden plays Tom, you know, he's the pocket passer, you know, rhythm passer, does everything. Great mentally, all that. Lamar can just show up and play, and that's different. Nobody can do that. Only he can do that. And it's so impressive to watch. They're two complete different players. I'm so grateful that I got to play with both of them because Tommy boy gave me two rings. So I forever grateful to big bro.

[Colin Cowherd]

So it's funny. So I just love the Raven so much. Funny story. That, and I never. I don't like calling teams for free tickets.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Not my thing. I don't want to owe anybody anything. I got that from my mom. So I called the Ravens and. And my daughter was in Baltimore and I said, oh, God. So I called the Ravens. I said, I'll pay for them. I don't like asking for tickets. They're like, it's fine. And they sat my daughter right next to Joe Burrow's parents.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Thank God I'd been nice to Joe Burrow.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

But it's such a class organization. What is it about Harbaugh? Yeah, the secret sauce. Like, he's kind of a man's man. Like, when I look at John, it's always like, if you do your job, he will treat you. He just expects you to be a pro.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yep. You know, I want to start with where you just went with the organization. Mr. Bouchotti, amazing owner, one of the best I've been around. Top down, loves football, wants the team to win. But he pours money into the organization. He gives everybody, you know, that A1 treatment, doesn't matter who you are in the building. He does a phenomenal job. So I do have to commend him for that. And I'm glad you had a great experience with him. But it starts with him and then with John Harbaugh. I just believe for him, what separates him is his relationships to players. He truly cares about what you think and how you see things. And he literally goes up to anybody and will ask and he takes tidbits from everybody and he puts it into his program. He doesn't just focus on, you know, his way or the highway, he adjusts. That's why he's lasted so long. It's an adapt or die mentality. If you stay the same for so long, you're. You're not going to improve, you're not going to get better, you're not going to keep this excellence. That's what I see. The difference between him is that mentality to always get better each and every year and the trust that he has with his players and the relationship. He's a relationship guy. He's a tough guy. He likes to get after it in the weight room himself. Every single day at 5:00, he's in, he's in that weight room. And that's the kind of attitude he has without the same day. And he has that standard for everybody, that standard of excellence.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, we're going into an NFL draft and one of the things about football, Matt Slater's a guy. You played with the New England. Yeah, like 19 years or something in the NFL. So much of what you bring when I listen to you talk is about professionalism. Okay. And if you could sit down with young football players and just say, listen, I'm going to give you two things about pro football, okay? You didn't go to a football factory, though. BYU is a great school. It's a really good program.

[Kyle Van Noy]

It is.

[Colin Cowherd]

And they've done a great job through the years of getting players ready for pro football. And again, a school that has a.

[Kyle Van Noy]

I mean, we got good ones. Puka. We got Fred Warner.

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What would you tell a young guy? I'm a linebacker. I'm from Texas A and M4 star. What would be the two things you'd say? Okay, young man, here's the difference with pro football.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Oh, man, listen, you don't know everything. And to put your head down and work, and I'm. I mean, work smart and hard. Those are the two things I would say. I would say, Listen, tell your OGs. Listen to what's happening around, scope it out and work hard. Put your head down and work. And work smartly. And you put those two together, I think you'll be really successful. I think too many guys come in with the mindset. They know it all, which some of them do know a lot. But I think there are some players that have played a really long time. There's coaches that have coached a really long time. So you should listen. You should listen to the players. You should see how professional players this guy works, this guy, how he handles his business. And then the smart work of you've already put in the work to get here. Continue to do that. But add stuff to that. That's where that smart comes in. Add this to your game. Okay, that guy's doing a little extra work. I'm going to put that into my game. That guy's on the jugs a little bit more. Going to put that, that, that in my game. Something that Julian Edelman did was he paid a equipment guy at our facility in New England and he would pay him every year to shoot extra jugs at him. And he would catch so many balls each and every day. I know Zay Flowers does the same thing in Baltimore. So there's different nuggets that you can see if you just watch something I picked up versus I was a professional as a rookie. Was Calvin Johnson an amazing superstar receiver. He did conditioning in the morning, and so my ass did conditioning in the morning. Him, him, Coach Caldwell, myself, I just watched. I didn't do, I didn't play as much as I did, but I knew that once I did with the preparation that I had, learning from Calvin Johnson, learning from Rasheen Mathis, the study he did, the Glover Quinn, asking all the questions that he did over the years, I knew when I was going to get my shot, I knew I was going to be ready. And I think just being able to listen, just being able to put that head down and work and work smartly helped me become the professional that I am today.

[Colin Cowherd]

As you get older again, you're a Pro Bowler. 12 and a half sacks. Let's say it's November, you're. You're in week 10, 11, you're banged up, you have a little bit of a semi high ankle sprain.

[Kyle Van Noy]

You have a bye week. Or I already had it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nope, already had it. Okay.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Bummer.

[Colin Cowherd]

And you're, you can play, but you're dinged up. Have you found your diet has changed since your rookie year?

[Kyle Van Noy]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Let's talk about that. So what do you do? Let's talk in season because we all know by Thanksgiving everybody's beat up.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's not like just, I'm a little tired. It's. I hurt in multiple places.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

How has it changed your diet and prep?

[Kyle Van Noy]

That's a really good question. I think it's funny. I even change it in the off season. For example, I heard you being a big health guy earlier. Magnesium. That's awesome for you. Something I just did was a 72 hour water fast. I didn't eat for 72 hours. I just did straight Water just to get my system flushed out and just feel good. And it was hard for the first two days. And then that third day, it was like clarity. It was like spiritual experience. It was amazing. But it was just a reset on my body just to get all the gunk that I had. I went to a family vacation in Maui. I ate very good, but I wanted to reset to get ready for this season. And I literally start from the ground up, just like I did with my body. I work with my feet and go all the way up to my head. And I do the same thing with my diet. I start from the ground of, you know, doing this 72 hour water fast. And then it's like, okay, we're on this eating healthy path and it's a lot of meat and vegetables. That's basically it. I don't like to do carbs until the day of the game because that helps you fuel you. But I really stay away from carbs during the season to feel good, feel light. And then during, before the game, I'll put on a couple extra pounds to get, get it going.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is there a team in the league that you just can't hide your disdain for them? Like, you just.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Oh, they know it. Those teams know it. They know the Buffalo Bills, they know I them all those years. Deon Dawkins, Josh Allen, they. They know you.

[Colin Cowherd]

You play them angry.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, he knows him and Travis Kelce. And then recently it's been the Steelers. And I don't think it's more so the Steelers players. They're relatively good, a couple of them. But it's been more the coaches. Like, it's stuff on the sideline that no one gets to see that the Mike Dubs haven't picked up. The coaches.

[Colin Cowherd]

Trash talking.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah, Especially like it's a competitive game. Right. And I love trash talking. But all those games have been close. It hasn't been like, we've beat, we've whipped you, or you know, those games are always close. Yeah. The new phrase is people say belt to ass. Like that's kind of the new phrase. But that's when someone gets really beat. Right. And for us, like, they've been in competitive games, I feel like it hasn't been Tomlin. It's been the other coaches around have been kind of talking a little trash. And so the disdain is getting back with that Pittsburgh Ravens rivalry. I feel like it wasn't there when I first got to the Ravens. It's been mostly the Cincinnati Bengals in us. And I feel like, it's going back to that Raven Steelers rivalry that we've been so accustomed to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Who is. And it could be one of your teammates in all the years in the NFL, could be Logan Mankins. I don't know what is there an offensive lineman that's coming around the corner and you know, it is, it is two hours in the gym, like somebody that you have so much respect for. Even the night before you're like on that trap play.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah. It's funny you say this. It's actually a member of the soon to be hall of Fame. Should be from the Ravens and ring of honor for the Ravens. Marshall yonder. Marshall Yonder. Me and Hightower would talk about them because back when we were playing in New England, we played open B gaps, which means there's. You get an end and then you get a no traditional nose guard and then there's an open B gap, which is the guard, and then it's you. So it's one on one with Marshall Yonder. It's about. You're about to have a long day with him. That was somebody that I always respected.

[Colin Cowherd]

Hands, physicality.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah, he was physical and strong and he wasn't afraid of no nobody. Like, you had to come. You had to bring it every play and playing against him. And oh, similarly when he was with the Raiders with Gabe Jackson, when they had an older Marshawn Lynch. Yeah. Osmoly, who also played for the Ravens, he was so strong. Oh, just mean. You had to like tell him, hey, you're playing great this season, you know. Yeah, you're playing so good. You know, just take it easy on this play.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's when you respect the guy.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah. Those two, those two players I had a lot of respect for. And then Zach Martin played him and it wasn't a physical standpoint that you were, you were like, it's going to be a long day. But it was more of, he's a great football player, he's going to be ready to go. He knows what he's doing and he's fast and he's strong and he's not overpowering you. He's just quick. He's kind of technician. Technician just like Jason Kelsey was, just like Alex Mack was. I remember getting ready for him for the super bowl Back in 2016 in New England and how fast he was able to climb up on the backers to run and like cut him off on his cut blocks. Those guys, not necessarily like a little brute force, but those guys, technician wise, those three were really, really good at their Craft.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, it should be noted that the two most physical guys you mentioned played for the Ravens. That's always been their culture.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Harbaughs love tough guys.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yes. Yeah, he does. That guy. That's the toughness guy for us. The two guys that I that jump off is Travis Jones and Namdi Matabike. Those two are a force in the interior D line. They're up and coming. Their ability, their arrow is pointing very, very up of both their careers.

[Colin Cowherd]

What a pleasure to see you again, man.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yeah, thanks for having me. I love being here. I love watching you and doing your thing. Louisiana is going to miss you. So appreciate you doing everything that you've done and not just this community. I know you're here still for a while. I know you're going to Chicago, but we appreciate you.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, BYU is the number six seed.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Let's go.

[Colin Cowherd]

They shoot a lot of threes.

[Kyle Van Noy]

They should have been higher, but, you know, sec, they got to get their glory right. But the thing about Brigham that I'm going to say is, you better watch out. They sho a lot of threes. They make a lot of threes.

[Colin Cowherd]

They're buddies with Jimmer.

[Kyle Van Noy]

I am buddy with Jimmer. Jimmer, you know, he. He led us almost to the promised land. Did a really, really good job. I think we have a. Another phenomenal player in Richie Saunders, who is all Big 12 this year. Just an underrated Big 12. I know you weren't necessarily hot on Arizona, but I feel like going to the Final Four. Oh, you do? You were hot. I apologize. Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

They're my dark horse.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yes. Caleb Love, Very, very good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Vaser is. Yes, yes. He was nothing early. He's played well now.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Correct. They're very good. I like Texas Tech. They're tough. That's his great pick. Houston, if they can shoot it well, I'm, I'm. I'm very high on them. That's a big if, though, because they do play defense. They do play phenomenal defense.

[Colin Cowherd]

Michigan State, not a lot of shooters, but.

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yes, but they're coming alive in the, in the Big 12 tournament. They shot really, really well. I'm very excited to see what the Big 12 does. I feel like they've been underrated, just like their football programs were during the bowl season. I think they're going to do the same thing in this tournament. I really, really like the Big 12. The teams that they have, they're tough, they're physical, they play that style. The referees let them play down there. But byu, their shooting ability, if they get hot. I'd be scared if I'm anybody in the tournament because they're putting up 90 points and you're like, well, I got to guard this guy. But this guy over here can shoot. And I really want to put a lot of pressure on Igor Demon. I know he's a freshman, but he's not a freshman anymore.

[Colin Cowherd]

Don't they have some great recruit coming next year?

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yes, they do. AJ Number one basketball player in the country. I'm not positive. I think he from Boston. Boston area.

[Colin Cowherd]

He chose byu?

[Kyle Van Noy]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Lds?

[Kyle Van Noy]

I don't believe he's lds, but he might as well be, right. That checks. Lds? No, I'm just kidding. But I think it's phenomenal. I think it's going through all the sports there at byu. I think it's been a shift in guard.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, they've always had money.

[Kyle Van Noy]

They have. It's secretly. They've had a lot of money. Yes, they do. But it's not even the church is Demian out. I think the, the donors and the boosters are the one providing all the money. When you have a guy that owns the Utah Jazz and Ryan Smith.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yep.

[Kyle Van Noy]

You have Danny Ainge, who's also happened with Utah Jazz when they're heavily involved. I just played with the number one, one of the top golfer recruits the other day, Kehei. He was getting offers from Alabama and Oklahoma State. He ended up choosing chose BYU to stay close to home. But because of that group of boosters and donors that are bringing in not only money, but that respect of, hey, I can help you get to that next level. That's who you want to be with, you know, And I'm starting to get involved a little bit more. I would like to kind of not be all the way in like Steph Curry is, but be able to help young men, be able to say, hey, if you do those things, you can be a pro and get to that next level. I think that's awesome what Steph Curry's doing with his former college. Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Kyle Van Nell. Great seeing you, buddy. Yeah, good to see you as always. Herdline News next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

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[J. Mac]

All right, Colin, let's get started with Shadoor Sanders and Deion San. Everybody loves these two guys. You know, they're both. Obviously, Shador is probably going to go in the top five. He's the most famous player and most discussed in the draft. His dad, Dion, says that's not an issue at all. Shador is a workaholic.

[Colin Cowherd]

You guys know that. He is who he is, and sometimes.

[J. Mac]

People forget what he's accomplished here at CU and how accurate in how good.

[Colin Cowherd]

He is, because you got to take a shot at somebody, and you might as well take a shot as a Sanders.

[J. Mac]

We built for this.

[Colin Cowherd]

Look at that, huh? How about that? We're built for this.

[J. Mac]

Is he, Is he built to go to the Cleveland Browns? Well, the factory of sadness, that's what they call that place. Is he built for that?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[J. Mac]

Not everybody is.

[Colin Cowherd]

We had no run game in a bad O line at Colorado for two years. I think he is built for it.

[J. Mac]

Baker Mayfield was a career underdog. Went to Cleveland, made the playoffs. They ran him out of town. Like, I'm just telling you, it's. Cleveland is a brutal place.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, Baker started some of those fires. Come on, let's be Also true. Yeah.

[J. Mac]

Well, is he built to lose with the New York Giants or go through a coaching change after?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I mean, that Colorado didn't win big. It's not like he was running big, dad.

[J. Mac]

Who cares? Well, he's been with his dad, by the way, since college, actually dating back to high school, I believe. I'm pretty sure.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[J. Mac]

He's been with his dad the whole time, and now it's like, maybe he's tired.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, maybe he's tired of his dad, huh? Maybe he's tired of it. Maybe he's like, hey, I want to play for somebody else. But, dad, I'm not saying that's not a shot at Deion. I mean, I, I, I, I think when your dad's Deion Sanders, you're. You can handle the spotlight. I think he's gonna be fine.

[J. Mac]

Why are we saying this stuff about Cam Ward? Is he built for Tennessee?

[Colin Cowherd]

Why?

[J. Mac]

Why are we saying.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, he is built for Tennessee. They need him. The only one getting criticized is Shadour. Nobody's criticizing Cam Warden.

[J. Mac]

Why is that?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, Cam's a more explosive, dynamic athlete. So he looks like the obvious number one. Nobody's doubting that. But we don't know. I mean, remember we had Jeff Schwartz on earlier last week and he talked about Cam Warden. He's like, you know, he hasn't played from the pocket much. Like it's going to be like Shadour is a classic pocket quarterback who played with no run game at Colorado. I think Shedeur is built for the NFL. Super accurate.

[J. Mac]

All right, let's move on to Micah Parsons. Colonies eligible for a contract extension. Dallas keeps dragging their feet, man. This is. This is just getting embarrassing. So yesterday we had Derek Stingley reset the cornerback market a day after the Bengals made Jamar Chase the highest paid non QB in the NFL. Miles Garrett also has a new deal and Parsons could surpass all of them. Colin, what is Dallas waiting for? I don't even know where to go at this point. Like what. What could Jerry possibly be thinking? What's the thought process to. Why wait?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, cd. I mean, you have to be a quarterback and CD is the better player. Maybe he's just waiting.

[J. Mac]

Do you think he's tinkering with the idea of trading Micah Parsons before the draft and getting like a top five pick?

[Colin Cowherd]

I think that's one of the three or four things that's being considered. I have. I think with Micah Parsons, they want to see how the draft goes. I think, you know, people get crazy on draft night. All of a sudden somebody calls and says, we'll give you a first for Micah Parsons at number 11 and Genti's available. Hold on. Let's.

[J. Mac]

Let's back up. Let's say the Browns do something crazy and don't take Shador Sanders too. And the Giants are on the clock at 3. Do they take Shador or would. Would they want Micah Parsons possible? I. I don't know. Would anybody in the top?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, they need a quarterback. Use another team. New England. New England's like, well, we don't need a quarterback.

[J. Mac]

We have our quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

We don't. We just signed our defensive tackle. We've got our corners.

[J. Mac]

If Shador falls, I mean, I guess the Giants aren't letting.

[Colin Cowherd]

What. What if Mike Vrabel's like right before the draft says, I can take Travis Hunter or I can actually get Micah Parsons. I'll give you Micah Parsons for a.

[J. Mac]

First number one pick because. Because can afford Michael Parsons next three years. Drake May's like on pennies on the rookie deal. I wonder if he's cooking up a trade.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think it's one of the three or four things they're considering.

[J. Mac]

And while they consider, everybody else gets paid.

[Colin Cowherd]

I could see Jerry Jones saying, listen, we need another. It's not. It's a really good tight end draft. And all of a sudden, let's say the jets get to number seven. And Jerry calls and says, aaron Glenn, you love defense. We'll give you Micah Parsons, you give us the 7 pick. And they take Darren Waller, the tight end, Penn State. Tyler Warren. Yeah, Tyler Ward. My bad. And all of a sudden, Dallas has CD Lamb, the best tight end in the draft. Dak Prescott. O line's getting better. And we get a running back.

[J. Mac]

The old line getting better?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I mean, they were young last year.

[J. Mac]

We've got some work to do.

[Colin Cowherd]

Would you do that if you were the Jets?

[J. Mac]

Well, we said this like seven months ago. Think about trading Michael Parsons. But now, I mean, I think you're limited with your options now because you've waited so. Damn. What is Jerry Jones doing? Do you have a line to him, by the way?

[Colin Cowherd]

No.

[J. Mac]

That's disappointing. I thought you were super connected. In the NFL, you can't get Jerry Jones on the wall.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Cowboys are the. If you're not, last name isn't Jones, you're not connected.

[J. Mac]

He's not taking your calls. All right, final story, Colin. A little skirmish in the NBA last night as you're watching on the screen. Look at the elbows fly in basketball being thrown. Andrew Nemard and Rudy Gobert got into it. Your typical NBA shoving match. Look at that. He just hit Conley with the elbow. And then Gobert's seen enough. And Nemart said, you want some of this? And Gobert is like, you know, towering over him.

[Colin Cowherd]

Look at that.

[J. Mac]

That's a shoulder to the face. I like this. We're getting high fives.

[Colin Cowherd]

You gotta defend your teammates. Anybody. Anybody give you a cheap foul? I'd go over there.

[J. Mac]

You're coming in. Oh, you got my back.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'd say no cheap shots on J. Mac.

[J. Mac]

You know, people don't know this, but when we hang out, sometimes people keep coming up to cowherd. And I've got to kind of bodyguard. I gotta stick the chest out a little bit. Like, hey, stand back. Let's settle down. Super fanboy. By the way, the Pacers went off in overtime. Obi Toppin hit a bunch of threes. And Pacers are sneaky in the East.

[Colin Cowherd]

Collins, they got talent. That's it.

[J. Mac]

I said they were potentially Easter.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I mean, they're. I. Pacers are kind of a fun watch. I like watching them.

[J. Mac]

I mean, talented team I did not see Cleveland coming. Did you? I didn't see this.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't see. I didn't think it'd be this good. But the last two years, we know they have a bunch of talent. They're all, you know, like Evan Mobley keeps getting better every time you see him. I'm not shocked. Cleveland's pretty good.

[J. Mac]

Like seven games up on the Celtics.

[Colin Cowherd]

I contend that Oklahoma City is last year's Cleveland. We're a little ahead of ourselves. They need another year of growth before they can go on the road and win big playoff games.

[J. Mac]

You know, you keep telling me I need another year of growth.

[Colin Cowherd]

You do, too. Believe me, you are. You are. You're Cleveland two years ago. A lot of sizzle, not a lot of state. I love to.

[J. Mac]

Just a lot of channels.

[Colin Cowherd]

First round exit.

[J. Mac]

Damn. Who am I? Kentucky out.

[Colin Cowherd]

J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.

[J. Mac]

And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.

[Colin Cowherd]

Kyle Van Noy, Adam Wainwright, Nick Wright. Okay, we have jmax updated picks for the final four. So this is. This is. This is J. Mac's actual bracket. Oh, look at that. You got Auburn suddenly in. It's almost like you listen to Uncle Colin.

[J. Mac]

Now, listen, people are gonna get the screen grab and be like, look at this chalky clown again. This is for the contest.

[Colin Cowherd]

Head to head, you and me.

[J. Mac]

Yeah, mano a mano.

[Colin Cowherd]

So you went Auburn as well. Now, who do you have winning, bro?

[J. Mac]

St. John's is probably going down second round to Kansas. Just FYI, I have Duke winning it all. Duke over Florida, the two best teams in the country. Arizona is going to just ruin you. Tennessee is interesting. I'm looking at their bracket. It's manageable.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I. Rick Barnes in big games where he's.

[J. Mac]

We need to make this interesting.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why can't we just open the.

[J. Mac]

Open it up for the audience to come up with? Loser does what?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, don't leave it to the audience. I wouldn't even leave it to our producers. I don't trust them. There's nothing zany. I'll be jumping out of a plane or something.

[J. Mac]

Have you ever done that, by the way?

[Colin Cowherd]

No. God, my son has. I never would.

[J. Mac]

You bungee jump?

[Colin Cowherd]

I've done that before. Not going to do it again. But I, you know, I'm not jumping out of a plane, but I. I bungee jumped off a bridge. Yeah, you should see what my daughter did in South.

[J. Mac]

Not on a plane, but off a bridge.

[Colin Cowherd]

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