Hour 3 - Looking at USC

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: Hour 3 - Looking at USC
Release Date: May 28, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Guest: Bruce Feldman (Fox College Football Analyst)

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1. Introduction to USC’s College Football Landscape

The episode delves into the evolving dynamics of college football, with a primary focus on the University of Southern California (USC) and its current standing within the sport.

• Colin Cowherd ([03:23]):
  "College football has undergone monumental changes over the past 18 months to two years, necessitating a complete reevaluation of the landscape."

2. USC’s Conference Shift and Rivalry with Notre Dame

The conversation highlights USC’s recent transition to the Big Ten Conference and its implications on traditional rivalries, particularly with Notre Dame.

• Bruce Feldman ([04:32]):
  "USC has a deep pride in its traditions and doesn’t want to be the one to let the USC-Notre Dame rivalry lapse."

• Colin Cowherd ([04:25]):
  "USC doesn’t want another late November game in bad weather; they prefer an earlier matchup, but Notre Dame relies on this game due to their independent status."

3. Performance Analysis and Future Predictions for USC

The discussion transitions to USC’s recent performances, coaching changes, and future prospects under new head coach Lincoln Riley.

• Colin Cowherd ([06:05]):
  "USC is projected to be under seven and a half wins. Lincoln Riley’s future at USC is uncertain, especially if the team records an 8-5 season."

• Bruce Feldman ([06:43]):
  "USC’s current roster lacks the momentum and talent to be considered a playoff team. The substantial buyout clause for Lincoln Riley, estimated around $80 million, raises questions about the athletic department's commitment."

4. Broader College Football Dynamics: Big Ten vs. SEC

The podcast broadens the discussion to compare the performances of teams in the Big Ten and the Southeastern Conference (SEC), analyzing the shift in power dynamics.

• Colin Cowherd ([09:02]):
  "Brian Kelly mentioned that the Big Ten has it on them, with teams like Michigan and Ohio State consistently winning national titles."

• Bruce Feldman ([09:42]):
  "Ohio State’s recruitment strategies resemble those of SEC schools more than traditional Big Ten teams, contributing to their dominance."
  "Michigan’s resurgence under Jim Harbaugh and Penn State’s talent acquisition under James Franklin have solidified their positions as top-tier programs."

5. Coaching Strategies and Team Performances

The conversation delves into the strategic differences between Big Ten and SEC teams, emphasizing coaching philosophies and team executions.

• Bruce Feldman ([11:54]):
  "In the SEC, most schools are on a similar competitive level, whereas the Big Ten has a few standout teams like Ohio State and Penn State, with a significant drop-off in performance among the remaining teams."

• Colin Cowherd ([12:03]):
  "With Texas potentially facing Penn State in the national championship, it's shaping up to be a showdown between Drew Aller and Arch Manning."

6. Impact of New Coaches and Player Transfers

The podcast explores the influence of new coaching hires and player transfers on team dynamics and future success.

• Colin Cowherd ([17:07]):
  "Belichick and Carolina are navigating uncharted waters, especially with the introduction of Jordan Hudson. How will this dynamic affect the team’s strategy and performance?"

• Bruce Feldman ([19:12]):
  "North Carolina’s transition under a new coaching regime and the integration of players like Gio Lopez from South Alabama will determine their bowl eligibility and future trajectory."

7. Rise of New Quarterbacks and Team Expectations

The focus shifts to emerging quarterback talents, particularly Arch Manning, and their impact on their respective teams’ performances and expectations.

• Colin Cowherd ([21:59]):
  "Arch Manning is under immense pressure to perform exceptionally this season. Realistic expectations are critical given the challenges ahead."

• Bruce Feldman ([21:59]):
  "Despite losing key players, Arch Manning has the talent to lead Texas to being a playoff team. However, winning a national title may be a stretch given the current roster challenges."

8. NFL Insights: Cincinnati Bengals and Coaching Challenges

The discussion transitions to NFL analysis, specifically focusing on the Cincinnati Bengals' performance and coaching efficacy under Zach Taylor.

• Colin Cowherd ([32:14]):
  "Offensive coaches typically have an advantage in September due to installed systems, but Zach Taylor has struggled with Joe Burrow, marking a concern for the Bengals."

• J Mac ([31:34]):
  "The Bengals have a tough schedule ahead, including games against the Ravens, Buffalo, and Baltimore, which could determine their playoff chances."

9. Atlanta Falcons and Michael Penix’s Role

The podcast examines the Atlanta Falcons' quarterback situation, highlighting Michael Penix's potential and the challenges he faces.

• Colin Cowherd ([35:04]):
  "I want Michael Penix to be a franchise quarterback. Good performances from him could elevate the team's standing and appeal."

• J Mac ([35:26]):
  "Despite a challenging schedule, Penix’s development under coach Raheem Morris could make him an exciting starter for the Falcons."

10. Women’s Basketball Spotlight: Caitlin Clark vs. Diana Taurasi

Shifting gears, the episode highlights the rising popularity of Caitlin Clark in the WNBA compared to the established star Diana Taurasi.

• Colin Cowherd ([39:00]):
  "Caitlin Clark's influence in college basketball is unprecedented, with merchandise sales surging by 500%. Her impact rivals that of Taylor Swift in terms of popularity."

• J Mac ([40:30]):
  "Caitlin Clark has transformed the perception of women’s basketball, making her more influential than Diana Taurasi ever was."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Colin Cowherd ([03:23]):
  "College football has undergone monumental changes over the past 18 months to two years, necessitating a complete reevaluation of the landscape."

• Bruce Feldman ([04:32]):
  "USC has a deep pride in its traditions and doesn’t want to be the one to let the USC-Notre Dame rivalry lapse."

• Colin Cowherd ([06:05]):
  "USC is projected to be under seven and a half wins. Lincoln Riley’s future at USC is uncertain, especially if the team records an 8-5 season."

• Bruce Feldman ([09:42]):
  "Ohio State’s recruitment strategies resemble those of SEC schools more than traditional Big Ten teams, contributing to their dominance."

• Colin Cowherd ([21:59]):
  "Arch Manning is under immense pressure to perform exceptionally this season. Realistic expectations are critical given the challenges ahead."

• Bruce Feldman ([21:59]):
  "Despite losing key players, Arch Manning has the talent to lead Texas to being a playoff team. However, winning a national title may be a stretch given the current roster challenges."

• Colin Cowherd ([32:14]):
  "Offensive coaches typically have an advantage in September due to installed systems, but Zach Taylor has struggled with Joe Burrow, marking a concern for the Bengals."

• Colin Cowherd ([35:04]):
  "I want Michael Penix to be a franchise quarterback. Good performances from him could elevate the team's standing and appeal."

• Colin Cowherd ([39:00]):
  "Caitlin Clark's influence in college basketball is unprecedented, with merchandise sales surging by 500%. Her impact rivals that of Taylor Swift in terms of popularity."

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Concluding Insights

The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of USC’s current challenges and prospects within the shifting landscape of college football. It underscores the broader implications of conference realignments, recruitment strategies, and coaching dynamics on team performances. Additionally, the discussion extends to NFL team evaluations and the rising prominence of women’s basketball stars, highlighting the multifaceted nature of contemporary sports discourse.

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Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[John Morgan]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it has been a monumental last, I don't know, 18 months to two years in college football with significant changes. And I think you have to rethink everything. There's still going to be college football still has the best rivalries of any sport, but not all of them will remain intact. One of them being usc, Notre Dame, where USC looks at it right now and is pushing back on, not wanting another potential late November game in bad weather. They would like to earlier in the year and they're pushing back on Notre Dame. The Irish need the game because they're not in a conference much more than USC does. And Bruce Feldman, who covers college football for Fox, is now joining us live. And my takeaway on that has always been, listen, the conference USC used to play in no longer exists. You can pay high school football players. We've got to get over this sort of sentimentality. But it is strong, Bruce, with usc, Notre Dame, it is really Notre Dame loves it because they can recruit in California. Like I get it, your, your take on USC's tact, which is we can take it or leave it. How's that land for you?

[Bruce Feldman]

No, I think if you're usc, you have a lot of pride in your traditions. I don't think you want to be the one who, who lets this rivalry lapse, by the way, Colin, it's like just looking back at this, we can talk about what it takes to get in the playoff. Last year, basically, USC played in its first year in the Big Ten, played two teams that ended up ranked in the top 25. That's it, two. And one of them, by the way, was Notre Dame. When they were in the PAC 12. The year before they played three. The year before that they played four. So the idea that they're gone to the Big Ten and the Big Ten is so stacked, you know, yeah, there's more teams in it, but you're not playing everybody in the Big Ten. So I think as somebody who's lived out here for 20 plus years, know a lot of USC people, USC is not, they've taken pride in that. They're not Arizona, they're not ucla. They're not, you know, they're different. They were not playing FCS programs. I don't think that this should be like a, oh, we gotta do this because it gives ourselves the best chance to make it into the playoff. If you're good, you're gonna make the playoff. If you're not very good, you're, you know, you squeezing by against Minnesota and Wisconsin and UCLA and Purdue, you know, it's not going to carry water. I mean this is not this, it's different than it is. Let's say in the argument now with the sec. They're playing a lot more high level teams. I think this is a, this is not a great, this is a very un USC move for USC from. Based on what I feel like what makes that place special.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's the traditional before I get to the Big Ten and Sark and Arch Manning, let's stay on usc. They're over under a seven and a half. Vegas draftkings are usually pretty accurate at this stuff. Now they do have size they haven't had in a long time. I don't love their quarterback position. Let's say Lincoln Riley goes 8 and 5. I know the buyout's extensive, but I mean most of your great coaches turn it around in year two, especially with a transfer portal. We don't know if Lincoln's a culture builder. We know he knows offense. What if he goes 8 and 5? Does he last?

[Bruce Feldman]

I think the part which is tricky on predicting that is what happens. They have a really good recruiting class as of right now. How many of those kids end up signing with usc? To me that's a big piece. And if you're not a top 15, top 20 team and Georgia or Ohio State come back in on those recruits, then do they end up coming here like. Because the way I look at it right now, there is not a lot of momentum at usc. I mean you just said it. The, the over under is seven and a half. I think right now they have a couple of really big time receivers. Kamari Ramsey is a really good db, but this is not like a very, very talented USC team. You're not, no one's talking about my Jaden Mava who came from UNLV as a guy who's going to be a first round kind of quarterback. There's some potential there. But right now I don't think anybody looks at this team and says, oh, they're a playoff team, they're not very good on the offensive line. They're okay on the D line, but they're not great. And you don't see a lot of like, except for maybe Jacoby Lane, Mikhail Lemon, the receivers, those guys are big time guys. But I feel like right now they're just struggling to get momentum. And if you throw in another 8 and 5 and that 8 and 5, would. Would that include being 7 and 5 and winning a bowl game? I, I just think it's. It's a hard sell. Now. The buyout is enormous. That is a deal that the old regime did that Jen Cohen got stuck with. And you wonder where will the money come from? This isn't Texas A and M where they got Jimbo Fisher out, but like, we're talking about a buyout that's going to be around $80 million. In that range. Are people going to step up to pay that kind of money if they feel like this isn't going the direction we wanted it to go? I mean, it's a really interesting subject because, like, I agree with you. Lincoln's a really good offensive coach, but when he was at ou, he stepped in and took over for Bob Stoops and there were a lot of big pieces in place. Yeah, this was not this way. The athletic department, I feel like, is in a big transition mode and it just doesn't feel like they've ever been able to get momentum. After the first year when Caleb was there and they had a good run and then all of a sudden it started to backslide.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, it's. Brian Kelly said today at SEC media days, he said, I can speak for the room. The Big Ten has it on us. Michigan, Ohio State have won Natties, Penn State's favor to potentially win a third straight. What do you think is the primary reason? I have my own theories. I'll let you start on why. Clearly, when I watch Big Ten football and SEC football over the last two years, clearly to me, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State have as good or better athletes than the sec. I did not feel that three years ago with Georgia and Bama. Why does it. What was the impetus for the big change?

[Bruce Feldman]

Well, I think you start with Ohio State. They're different. They're more like an SEC school in terms of how they recruit than they are like a Big Ten school. I mean, they always, if you look in the last decade, I mean, you see it in all the guys in the NFL. I mean, that was. They're different. Right. And so you have guys with track Records, I mean receivers, you go with the guys Brian Hartline has developed there. And then you add a Jeremiah Smith who's a generational talent, who's better than all the ones that they've had there. When you get to Michigan, I think it really had a lot to do with how Jim Harbaugh developed players. They were going to practice, be physical and so you had a lot of that where, where they were able to retain talent. And a lot of guys on that national title team came back for one more year. I mean, the bottom fell out on them last year. They were an awful offensive team. They still had some good defensive players and we saw that reflected in the Dr. But I feel like that was different. And now where we're at with Penn State, very talented. James Franklin has recruited similar to what Ohio State has like an SEC program. So I think because of that you have, you know, they're different than. Whereas in the SEC you probably have seven or eight schools that aren't that different. In the Big Ten, I feel like you have two or three. We'll throw Oregon in there because they have recruited exceptionally well and we saw that last year. But the rest of the Big Ten, when you start talking about Nebraska, Wisconsin fell off. Maryland, Rutgers, they don't, they're, they're not at the level of, let's say, where Ole Miss is, where South Carolina is. South Carolina has a bunch of guys who are former five star recruits and they had a really good year last year. They didn't make the playoff, but they were a dangerous team. Ole Miss went all in the portal. They spent a lot of money. You see what, what they did for Lane Kiffin. They were a team that was a playoff contender. They beat Georgia. Right. They didn't beat Florida when they needed to, but they were a dangerous team. So I think in that there's just, to me, there's a top group of teams in the Big Ten that are like SEC teams. And then after that there's a big, there's a. I feel like there's a pretty sizable drop off.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Bruce Feldman]

I think they don't know what to make of the Jordan Hudson piece of this because we're talking about a guy who's in his 70s and a woman who's in her 20s. And I think people were hesitant to go talk about it a lot publicly until the CBS Sunday Morning interview. And it became like kind of odd. And there were some other things where it just, it just seemed a little out of character for Belichick where it was always focused on football. And now all of a sudden you get, he's promoting a book. And I think some of the things that came with it were a little, just bizarre. The part where I think there's real buy in is he's the greatest football coach in the history of the NFL. He's not Chan Gailey. He's not one of these guys who did both and came back like he's the greatest football coach. He's brilliant when it comes to offense and defense strategically and development. I could see why kids would want to play for him. You totally get it. They went in the portal late in the spring. They got a really good quarterback from South Alabama, Gio Lopez. I think he'll be a good fit for them. I think he will help them. And the part that where I'm fascinated by them is he's in the acc. He's not in that Big Ten, he's not in the sec. So most of these games take Clemson out of it for, for a bit. But most of the teams they're playing, they're kind of toss up games, right? Because I feel like there's, there's a lot of talent that's basically in the same level. There's not a ton of difference makers on the field. In those ACC games, if you're better prepared and you execute better, you can win them. He could get them to 9 and 3, 8 and 4. And remember, Mack Brown had some good teams. Now a bunch of those kids ended up leaving already. But I'm fascinated to see how this goes. I'm not as fascinated as I was, let's say, when Deion was there, because Deion was just such a force of nature and he was more compelling. This is a little, this is a little bit different, but it's still very interesting because it's like an interesting experiment.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, I want to talk Dion for a second. Two years about a.500 coach. His son is gone, his sons are gone. Travis Hunter's gone. Where are they? I mean, he's made them relevant, but the Big Ten in the SEC run the sport and then maybe Clemson on the outside. What do you expect going forward now that all the flash, now that his son's gone. What is Colorado and Dion going forward?

[Bruce Feldman]

Well, we can say he's a 500 coach, but I think in fairness to them, we got to point out they were one in 11 before he showed up. They were horrible. So he made them not only nationally relevant but they were a top 25 team last year. Now a lot of that certainly was. You had a really good quarterback, his son. You had some really good receivers and a generational two way player in Travis Hunter. They still have a few good players around there. You know, he upgraded the offensive line. You got a former five star offensive tackle and Jordan Seon. I think he's going to be a future NFL player. They have, I feel like they have taken some of the momentum. The question is going to be you had some guys who could just flat out win games and they were close games. I don't know. You know, they have a former quarterback recruit who was an elite 11 kid, Julian Lewis, who was committed to SC. Now he's there, he's competing with Kaden Salter who was a really good running quarterback at Liberty. I think they will be different but again they're in the Big 12. I think they can compete with, with anybody in that, in that league. I think they'll be pretty solid in the trenches, which they weren't when he first got there. I think they can at least be bowl eligible and then we'll see, you know, the next step if he can get some of those big, big difference makers that he had that he brought with him from Jackson State.

[Colin Cowherd]

Finally, I don't think there's a quarterback. I certainly don't remember. Andrew Luck was obviously great, but he wasn't, he wasn't flashy. It was Stanford. I don't remember an Arch Manning. And Tebow was great, but he wasn't really viewed. He was collegiate. Arch Manning, his family's American football royalty. I mean he's. I thought he was better than Quinn Ewers. Didn't say a word, played backup. I've never seen a quarterback hyped to this level. I kind of buy that he is good. The little bit I've seen he's athletic, he's got a nice arm, he's apparently gotten stronger. It puts a lot of pressure on Sark, who, you know, I mean let's, let's be honest. The downside to Arch Manning is you've got Arch Manning and people want you to go 12 and one in the SC and Texas has a tough schedule. They open with Ohio State. What are your realistic expectations for Arch Manning this year where we'll be comfortable. What do you expect to see?

[Bruce Feldman]

I expect them to be a playoff team. I don't know if they're going to be the team that's at, you know, in the national title game because here's the thing, they've lost. They lost a first round receiver in Matthew Golden. They lost four starting offensive linemen. I mean, including both tackles. That's a lot to replace. I think they'll be really good on defense even though they lost Jadai Baron, who is a first round pick and. But I think they'll be good up front on defense and I expect him to live. This is crazy to say it because the hype is so big, but I do expect him to live up to the hype. You will see wow plays. Now, keep in mind he has not played that much college football. He started a couple games. He is to me, definitely more talented than Quinn Huers. He is a much better athlete. The guys I know inside the Texas program have raved about Arch in terms of his football savvy, his playmaking ability, what he is character wise. I think Sark is a really good fit for him. I don't know if they, you know, go in. That's going to be our game. We're going to be in Columbus for, for Big Noon and can't wait. That's going to be a really big matchup. I, I expect him to be really good. I don't know if we're going to say, oh, he's going to win the Heisman. I don't want to put that on him. I also don't want to say he's going to be the first pick in the draft, you know, 11 months from now. I think he has that kind of talent though. The comparison to Andrew Luck is interesting because Andrew to me was as close to can't miss as we had seen coming out of college. He was big, he was really smart, he was accurate, he could really run. Arch is a lot of those things. Now, what's different, obviously is Andrew's dad played quarterback in the NFL. He wasn't the greatest quarterback or arguably the greatest quarterback in the NFL. And his grandfather wasn't a great player. You know, it's like, as you said, that family is football royalty. But the stuff I've heard from people at Texas much like Andrew, because people rave about Andrew's character still to this day. But around Stanford, remember, they were awful when he got there. He committed and then they got really good and they were really, really good by the time he Left at Stanford. This is already a really good Texas program. I think I'd be surprised if he does not excel there in a big way. Now again, will he win a national title this year? That's, that's putting a lot out there for again, a team that has to replace almost the entire offensive line and their go to receiver. But I expect him to be pretty special.

[Colin Cowherd]

Bruce Feldman. Great chopping it up in college football. We both love it. Obviously you cover it in a daily basis. Good seeing you, bud.

[Bruce Feldman]

Great seeing you guys.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, there's. There's a lot of things. Yeah, I know. You know, this whole Notre Dame, USC thing, J. Mac, you know, you live amongst the Trojans. You, you and the tank top crowd on the beach playing volleyball on Saturdays. I just keep saying. Now he does make a great point that USC didn't have a very difficult schedule last year, but they got a huge break from the Big Ten. They don't have to play Oregon or Ohio State their first two years in the conference. They're going to have to face Oregon and Ohio State, the two best programs in the conference. Right now with Penn State now, I think, I think Texas is going to face Penn State in the national championship. So I think it's going to be Drew Aller against Arch Manning and I think those are going to be the top two picks. Caleb Downs will be the third pick, the corner from Ohio State.

[J Mac]

So Colin, Bruce. I remember this vividly. Bruce was here when you floated your USC should not play Notre Dame anymore. I wish we could pull the clip, Bruce. You might remember it. We're both kind of laughing like, oh, this is Colin's hot. Take happy hour. He's just floating nonsense. And now it actually kind of looks like you might be onto something.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Do you think it's gonna be. It's gonna be the way this, it's the way this show works. It's not just reporting on stuff that's been reported.

[J Mac]

I gotta deal with Ruth.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[J Mac]

Saturday night, the stage is set. The Yankees face the Dodgers in a World Series rematch or it's the 20th Twins versus Mariners Baseball Night in America. Coverage begins Saturday at 6pm Eastern. Check local listings for the game in your area only on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

Without further ado, J Mac with the.

[John Morgan]

News no, no, no.

[Colin Cowherd]

Turn on the news.

[Bruce Feldman]

This is the Herdline news.

[J Mac]

All right, it's Cincinnati Bengals time. Colin Interesting quote here from Jamar Chase, the superstar Wide receiver. Everybody knows the Bengals have been notoriously slow starters under this current regime. However, when ja' Marr Chase was asked about the preseason. Colin, take a listen to this.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't know. How do we start my rookie year?

[Bruce Feldman]

Did we play in this preseason?

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't know. What about the next year?

[Bruce Feldman]

Did we play preseason about the following year? We played that preseason.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sound like we need to play preseason, huh? Huh?

[J Mac]

I know you're Mr. Anti Preseason. This is. Chase knows the answer to the questions he's asking. I think that's called a rhetorical question. And here are the numbers. The slowest starting team in the league since 2019 under your guy Zach Taylor. I would have run him out of town, but that's just me. Colin, time to play Bernardo and Chase in the preseason.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. One of the things that concerns you is generally offensive coaches have advantage over defensive coaches in September because they've installed. Look at Andy Reid's historically September record and Belichicks. So if you look at offensive coaches. McVay in September, Andy Reid in September. Look how quickly Bo Nick started with Sean Payton as a rookie quarterback. Offensive coaches have an advantage. So it is troubling that Zach Taylor is the opposite. He's a disaster with Joe Burrow in September. So I've defended Zach Taylor, but there is no getting around it. That is a mark against him.

[J Mac]

Now, I did look at the Bengals schedule. The league did them some favors here. They open at Cleveland, should be a dub. They'll pre. They'll be favored on the road. Then they host Jacksonville. That to me looks like a 20 start. I think the Vikings are a problem. I think Denver at altitude is a problem. Obviously the Lions, but they can't afford. You see that Lions, packers, like they can't afford losing one of those first two games. Colin, you don't want to get behind the eight ball again. And we would both agree the AFC is.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I mean, I think. Listen. I mean, it looks like they could be two and oh. To start. But that's. I mean, you know, they get a very soft open and a very soft close. But this league is decided October 1st to December 15th and they got rough games. Those are rough games in there. A lot of Ravens and Ravens twice, Buffalo twice. Much improved New England, Green Bay, Detroit, Buffalo and Baltimore.

[J Mac]

I'm sorry, Baltimore, Buffalo, Baltimore. Three game stretch. Yikes. Why the hell would they do that to them? Thanksgiving and then at Buffalo and then back home for Baltimore. That's got to be the toughest three games.

[Colin Cowherd]

You got to have higher standards. Reed and Mahomes are 19 and 4 in September. You want to host playoff games. Cincinnati's gotten to a point where we're just like, can they make the playoffs? Kansas City and Buffalo and Baltimore, the three other teams with first ballot hall of Fame quarterbacks, are trying to win divisions and get home playoff games. Cheap, frugal Cincinnati, dysfunctional Cincinnati. We're just hoping they can make the playoffs. When last year there was an argument Burrow was the best quarterback in the league. That again, where you land matters. Mahomes, Reed and Lamar. You can talk about all you want about playoff wins. They are built in playoff teams because of Harbaugh, because of the ownership, Steve Buschotti, Hunt family, Andy Reid. Bills have a more than solid coach and good ownership like Cincinnati has maybe the best quarterback in any Sunday in the league. And we're crossing our fingers if they can make the playoffs. That's not about Burrow. That's upstairs.

[J Mac]

Not great at all. Let's move on to the Atlanta Falcons. Talked about them earlier. The Kirk Cousins no show. Let's take a moment to talk about Michael Penix. Such a superstar at Washington during that playoff run. Big fan of his work. According to Raheem Morris, the head coach, Penix has been finding his own voice in the locker room and Penix is excited to be the starter.

[Colin Cowherd]

The one thing that I want to point at is like just connecting with the guys. You know, I feel like I've done a lot better with connecting with everybody around the team. Not just officer guys, but defensive guys as well. You know, whether that's, you know, just doing stuff, you know, around the facility, eating lunch or, you know, going out playing golf or something with them. Don't ask about no golf game. I really like, I met him before. I like him a lot. I think he throws. I said before, I think he is a bigger, stronger TUA in terms of throwing a ball accurately quickly down the field. I think he's a great distributor and I do think he has the ability to move like Tua, but he doesn't. He is a classic pocket guy who can move. He could, he could be a little bit of a left handed CJ Stroud maybe where you're like, he throws a beautiful ball. But I think to some degree I think the offensive weaponry for Atlanta is pretty good. They don't get a pass rush ever. But I actually like their offensive pieces.

[J Mac]

I can't believe you just compared them to Tua and CJ Stroud. That's high praise. I will point out Atlanta opens against Tampa, huge divisional matchup. Then they travel to Minnesota like again Michael Penix, you're being thrown to the wolves. I think Carolina should be a win in week three Washington but look after that Buffalo, San Fran Collin, no rest for the weird. Michael Penix is going to have a very tough start there. Back end of the schedule is a little light. I see the jets and the Saints.

[Colin Cowherd]

As a football fan I just want Penix to be a franchise quarterback. To me the more of these guys that hit the better the one o' clock window is. I mean because we know the Fox late window or the Sunday window or the Monday window. That's the league putting in marquee teams. What I want is the one o' clock window to have good teams. So the more of These quarterbacks, these Bo Nicks and Michael Penix, if J.J. mcCarthy hits then the 1 o' clock. Because what you get in the 1 o' clock window a lot of times is all the bad quarterbacks in the league and it's unwatchable.

[J Mac]

Not a bad point. Final story. Let's go to college football. Jeremiah Smith, obviously a transcendent freshman campaign and friend of the show Dane Brugler said if he would have been able to enter the NFL draft he would have been the top non quarterback taken. Now Smith has two years left on his deal before he's draft eligible. He told the Athletic I'm enjoying college. I'm in no rush to go to the NFL. How about this stat? According to on three nil rankings we know Arch Manning is number one. 6.6 million. Cooper flag in college basketball was number two at 4.8 followed by Carson Beck and Jeremiah Smith. Allegedly $4 million in nil money. That feels almost light, doesn't it?

[Colin Cowherd]

He's a great player. I mean if he was, if he was eligible the draft would go Arch Manning drew Aller and then depending on need, Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Smith. I think those are the four best, best players.

[J Mac]

You can take Downs over Smith?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it depends on the need. Like, like if you, if you're a team that. I mean there's receivers are plentiful in college football. Smith is great.

[J Mac]

Hold up. Jeremiah Smith is not a receiver.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, they said that About Marvin Harrison.

[J Mac]

Jr. Jeremiah Smith is better than him. Come on.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I think he is too but it's, it's, you know, it's just there are. It's hard. Nobody in the NFL has two great corners. A lot of teams have three good receivers. It's just, there's just a scarcity of good corners. In football. And so if you can get one, grab them. All right, J. Mac with the news.

[Bruce Feldman]

Well that's the news and thanks for.

[Colin Cowherd]

Stopping by the herd lie news, you know, our staff, they're so kind. So I was saying earlier I was talking about Paige Beckers and she was, she's coming as a rookie five games into the WNBA and her numbers are very close to Caitlin Clark. She was a better college high school player than Caitlin Clark, especially early. And Diana Taurasi had said this week that the Dallas Wings rookie, she said oh she'll be the best player in the league. And I think it's interesting that Caitlin Clark and then the following year Paige Beckers could end up being the best or at least most popular players in the league. Now Asia Wilson in Las Vegas is the best player right now. But. And who can describe or figure out what popularity means? But she is a remarkable talent. And I, I had referenced earlier there is a tweet when she was in the sixth grade and I mean it's literally, remember this was Gary Knox saying, remember the Name Paige Becker, sixth grade. Think Diana Taurasi, best sixth grade guard I've ever seen. St. Louis park and the staff, they're always doing homework. Found an old tweet by Walter Cronkite, the late great newsman. J. Mac, I don't know if you've seen this. Remember the name Colin Coward, kindergarten think Tom Brokaw, best young bro. You know, I just appreciate the effort by the staff and thanks to the late Walter Cronkite for at that time tweeting it. That is me, believe it or not.

[J Mac]

By the way, that Diana Taurasi stuff, there is so much meat on that bone. Just leave some for me. I can't wait to go after Taurasi. The jealousy she has for Caitlin Clark just for being a bigger deal in basketball than Taurasi ever was.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, we don't.

[J Mac]

Even though Tarasi was a great, historically great player, Caitlin Clark's done more for the sport of basketball than Taurasi ever has.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why can't Diana Taurasi just say. And a lot of people believe this. Remember Paige Beckers is the reason Caitlin Clark was never offered a scholarship at UConn.

[J Mac]

100% and taping up her UConn friend. But it's not just that. I looked it up. Taurasi had been making comments about Caitlin Clark that are negative for like three years. Colin, she hates her. She's jealous. It's out there. Like maybe hate is strong, but she's definitely jealous of What Clark is doing in the attention she's getting. Sorry. That's a fun story. Woohoo.

[Colin Cowherd]

It is. I'll tell you. I told you. I was Sunday night had played golf Saturday with cousins and then Sunday us other cousins and they had their college sons at the dinner barbecue. Right. It was great. It was great. Smart kids, college kids. And they were talking, we were talking about sports and one of them loved the ufc and they all love football and. And I asked them about Caitlin Clark and they said at our frat house, if Caitlin Clark is playing, it takes precedent over almost over everything else among a bunch of guys, young guys. So like, this is one of those Taylor Swift like phenomenons where. Where it just is. It's hard to describe. I mean, Taylor Swift's obviously talented, Caitlin's Clark talented, but it's more than being popular. It's literally she's selling merchandise in the WNBA went up 500%.

[J Mac]

By the way, Diana Taurasi was a great player.

[Colin Cowherd]

Great.

[J Mac]

I could guarantee you no fraternity in America was like, hey, what's the Diana Taurasi game on? Well, I think she's the logo of the league. I'm pretty sure. Like again, there's just. There wasn't that interest. Maybe it's timing. And I also have another good. I've got some good stuff I'm saving for next week when you're, you know.

[Colin Cowherd]

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