Hour 3 – Petros Papadakis

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 3 Featuring Petros Papadakis

Release Date: February 19, 2025

Hosts: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
Guest: Petros Papadakis

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1. Introduction of Petros Papadakis

The episode kicks off with hosts LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox welcoming Petros Papadakis, a seasoned sports analyst and co-host of the "Petros and Money Show" on AM570 LA Sports. They reminisce about Petros's previous appearances and set the stage for an engaging discussion.

LeVar Arrington [03:11]:
"We're gonna be taking you all the way up until end of this hour... and we will be catching up here with our guy, the old P, Petros Papadakis."

2. Petros's Experiences and Anecdotes

Petros shares humorous insights from his broadcasting experiences, including his interactions with fellow hosts and memorable moments from his career. The conversation is filled with light-hearted banter, highlighting Petros's unique personality and deep knowledge of the sports world.

Petros Papadakis [05:26]:
"This is not my first time on this show. But usually it's the fill-ins that asked me to come on."

Brady Quinn [09:07]:
"You do such a good job in those scenarios... that's how entertaining it was."

3. Discussion on NFL Quarterback Trades

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the dynamics of quarterback trades in the NFL. Petros delves into the potential movement of star quarterbacks like Matt Stafford and Aaron Rodgers, analyzing team strategies and the impact on the league.

Jonas Knox [11:23]:
"Your guy, Matthew Stafford, is he to go or not to go? That is the question."

Petros Papadakis [12:56]:
"They build it the wrong way, is like, well, the sun is blaring down on you at 1:00 on the home team side, which was a big problem."

Petros speculates on Rodgers's potential move to a major media market like New York City, suggesting it could be part of a larger strategy involving media dynamics and team performance.

Petros Papadakis [13:33]:
"Maybe Aaron Rodgers gets that at SoFi. You know, that'd be pretty cool."

4. NBA All-Star Game and Ratings Decline

The hosts shift focus to the NBA All-Star Game, discussing its declining viewership numbers. Brady Quinn provides an analysis of the trend, highlighting the long-term decrease in ratings and comparing it to other sporting events.

Brady Quinn [33:06]:
"Opens up the door and people need to get comfortable with players earning some ridiculously huge numbers... Do you feel like you're overpaying him for the guys right now in the NFL, the best quarterback."

Brady Quinn [33:54]:
"If the Chiefs balked on that, there would be somebody in 10 minutes that would be willing to give him $100 million."

The conversation touches on the disparity in salaries between quarterbacks and other positions, emphasizing the market's demand for elite quarterbacks.

5. Salary Cap Increases and Player Salaries

LeVar Arrington introduces the topic of the NFL salary cap increase for the 2025 season, noting a substantial rise compared to previous years. The hosts discuss the implications of this increase on player salaries, team budgets, and overall league economics.

LeVar Arrington [31:00]:
"The NFL did send out a memo to teams on Wednesday informing them that the salary cap for the 2025 season will be somewhere between 277 and a half and 281 and a half million."

Brady Quinn [33:54]:
"I'm not gonna have the answer for you as far as what they should do, but I think if you're looking at what took place at the same time, which the Canada USA game did over 10.1 million..."

The discussion highlights how increasing salary caps enable teams to secure top talent, particularly quarterbacks, while also addressing the financial pressures on other positions.

6. Player Development and Opportunities

The hosts delve into the challenges quarterbacks face in their careers, particularly the pressure to perform immediately. Brady Quinn underscores the lack of development time compared to other positions, using examples like Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold to illustrate his points.

Brady Quinn [36:00]:
"A lot of people probably wrote off Bryce Young after his rookie year because the way it looked, it looked bad... But Brock Purdy's done a tremendous job in Kyle Shanahan's system."

Bobby Bones [30:07]:
"There was something sentimental when you..." (Note: This seems to be an erroneous timestamp and context, possibly part of an advertisement or unrelated segment.)

7. All-Star Game Ratings and Alternatives

Returning to the NBA All-Star Game, Brady provides a deeper analysis of the declining ratings, attributing it to format issues and viewer engagement. He suggests alternative formats, such as featuring international teams like the Canada-USA matchup, to potentially boost interest.

Brady Quinn [34:02]:
"The peak was, I believe in like, was it 2000, 2003, where it was 13.1 million had watched. So I think that was 2002. And since then it's literally been on a decline with a few exceptions."

LeVar Arrington [47:50]:
"If they want to fix the ratings, just put on an old NFL game. That way people will tune in..."

The conversation acknowledges the persistent trend of declining viewership and explores creative solutions to revitalize interest in the All-Star festivities.

8. American Sports Betting Industry Growth

LeVar Arrington brings attention to the booming sports betting industry, citing the American Gaming Association's report. He highlights the significant revenue increase, reflecting the growing integration of betting within sports culture.

LeVar Arrington [48:46]:
"According to the American Gaming association annual report, 6.7. That was the average. The highest was 75. The American sports betting industry posted a record $13.7 billion in revenue last year, up from 11.11 billion in 2023."

The hosts discuss the implications of this growth on sports viewership, team revenues, and fan engagement, emphasizing how betting has become an integral part of the modern sports landscape.

9. Closing Remarks and Future Coverage

As the episode concludes, the hosts tease upcoming segments, including deeper dives into NFL coverage and more engaging sports discussions. They encourage listeners to tune into future episodes for comprehensive analysis and insider perspectives.

LeVar Arrington [38:53]:
"That's the herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up next here in the Herdline news, the numbers are in, and it is not a Good look for somebody in the world of sports."

Petros Papadakis [39:07]:
"One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• LeVar Arrington [03:11]:
  "We're gonna be taking you all the way up until end of this hour... and we will be catching up here with our guy, the old P, Petros Papadakis."

• Brady Quinn [09:07]:
  "You do such a good job in those scenarios... that's how entertaining it was."

• Jonas Knox [11:23]:
  "Your guy, Matthew Stafford, is he to go or not to go? That is the question."

• Petros Papadakis [12:56]:
  "They build it the wrong way, is like, well, the sun is blaring down on you at 1:00 on the home team side, which was a big problem."

• Brady Quinn [33:06]:
  "Opens up the door and people need to get comfortable with players earning some ridiculously huge numbers... Do you feel like you're overpaying him for the guys right now in the NFL, the best quarterback."

• Brady Quinn [36:00]:
  "A lot of people probably wrote off Bryce Young after his rookie year because the way it looked, it looked bad... But Brock Purdy's done a tremendous job in Kyle Shanahan's system."

• LeVar Arrington [48:46]:
  "According to the American Gaming association annual report, 6.7. That was the average. The highest was 75. The American sports betting industry posted a record $13.7 billion in revenue last year, up from 11.11 billion in 2023."

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, the hosts engage in a dynamic and insightful discussion with Petros Papadakis, covering a broad spectrum of sports topics. From quarterback trades and salary cap implications to the declining ratings of the NBA All-Star Game and the growth of the sports betting industry, the conversation offers listeners a comprehensive analysis of current trends and future prospects in the sports world. The blend of expert opinions, humorous anecdotes, and critical evaluations ensures a captivating and informative listening experience for both regular fans and newcomers.

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[Jonas Knox]

Now let's get this party started.

[Petros Papadakis]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's the Herd on FOX Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.

[Jonas Knox]

Hi.

[LeVar Arrington]

You can find us here on the iHeartRadio app and on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. And we are gonna be taking you all the way up until end of this hour, 3:00pm Eastern Time, 12:00 Pacific. And we will be catching up here with our guy, the old P, Petros Papadakis. Coming up here in just a couple of moments from now, you hear Petros on in LA weekdays with Matt Money Smith, who's the voice of the LA Chargers on radio. And so I'm sure Petros will have some thoughts. Maybe, maybe the old P will be sent out to Brazil for to cover the LA Chargers.

[Jonas Knox]

That'd be fun.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, there could be, could be some conversation to be had there with Petra. So as soon as we've got Petros line lined up and ready to go, we will keep you posted here. You know, not imagining we're going to have any P. Prisco issues from yesterday, but it does look like confused looks there behind the scenes. Your thoughts on the confusion behind the scenes. Brady, what would you, what would you say about that?

[Jonas Knox]

Bad News Bears?

[Brady Quinn]

It does seem like whenever Lee's involved, not to throw Lee under the bus, but for those of you that have listened to our show, early in the morning there tends to be a lot of fuzzy things that are going on and stuff just doesn't work. And Lee maybe forgot to call one of the guests to say, hey, we changed our hours. We're actually gonna be calling you a little later in the day. Is that okay? Sometimes those, those little details fall through the, through the cracks.

[Jonas Knox]

Running for Kiris. Here he comes here. Yep, there he is. Running from Kira.

[LeVar Arrington]

Captain Kiris save the day two days in a row. Yeah, it's, it's very, very, very troubling. All right, so without further ado, let's turn it over to the man himself, Petros Papadicas. He is the co host of the Petros and Money show which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM570LA Sports, a Fox college football analyst and get him on ax at the old P P. Good morning slash afternoon, depending on where you're listening in the country. But we appreciate you coming on with us here.

[Petros Papadakis]

No problem. Hello.

[LeVar Arrington]

Hello.

[Petros Papadakis]

This is not my first time on this show.

[Jonas Knox]

Nice.

[Petros Papadakis]

But usually it's the fill ins that asked me to come on.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, okay, so I see.

[Jonas Knox]

What, you came in shooting shots, huh? No, I've been on there blazing.

[Petros Papadakis]

Huh. I've been there with count 405, but not, not in a while.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay.

[Jonas Knox]

Bang bang.

[Petros Papadakis]

What do you mean?

[Brady Quinn]

Is that a shot at you, Jonas?

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, of course it is.

[Petros Papadakis]

No, no, not at all.

[Jonas Knox]

It's not.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, I'm count 101 20.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah, he's off the 101.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Petros, when is the last time you saw Jonas in person?

[Petros Papadakis]

Not long. Maybe a couple months ago. Yeah, he. He has an interesting look.

[Jonas Knox]

What does he look like?

[Brady Quinn]

He also looks pale as hell, like he never goes out in the sun.

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, I mean the guy does a radio show at 2 in the morning in, in the west coast and, and then he sometimes, you know, does one in the afternoon. What I'm saying is he's indoors a lot.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, he is indoors.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't think the sun's gonna help at night.

[Petros Papadakis]

He's like an editor.

[Brady Quinn]

You know, guys probably go outside after.

[Petros Papadakis]

Guy that sits in an edit bay all day, it just grows old.

[Jonas Knox]

He lives in a coffin at night.

[LeVar Arrington]

That is true.

[Jonas Knox]

He doesn't need sun made for him.

[Brady Quinn]

Hey, Petros.

[Petros Papadakis]

All right, I'm here for you guys.

[Brady Quinn]

I know we've caught up since the super bowl, but I wanted to make sure you understood. There was many mornings where I looked out in that crowd and I thought, that's Kansas City's version of Petros.

[Petros Papadakis]

Hey, yeah. Afternoon drive.

[Brady Quinn]

There's Philadelphia's version of Petros.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Brady Quinn]

That's St. Louis's version of Petros. I mean, you kind of kept going down the line. I completely understood your stance on that.

[Petros Papadakis]

Where is the next Super Bowl? Santa Clara. Yeah, you'll be there. I mean, that is an amazing, amazing drop off. Right? I mean, I'm not for parties or people or really a good time at all. I'm very hateful, which is why probably haven't been on in a while. But that being said, New Orleans is a great Town. And New Orleans is a fun resort. Kind of not resort, but convention. It kind of absorbs that kind of stuff very well. And the super bowl is great there because you're having a good time. But at the same time, you don't feel like the cheeseball idiot that you really are because you're partying at the Super Bowl. That does not exist in Santa Clara. In fact, almost nothing exists in Santa Clara. And you're nowhere close to anywhere you want to be. San Jose has nothing to offer you. San Francisco used to be the Baghdad by the bay. Now it's a big pile of poop and needles. But that being said, I mean, it's still a kind of a fun city to kick around in. But you're, you know, you're at least 45 minutes from there. Santa Clara in a badly built stadium. I mean, that is kind of an amazing thing in today's day and age that we have all this technology, all these architects, all these people in the 21st century, and you can still just totally drop the ball. Building an NFL football stadium, even though you have billions of dollars and all that, you just build it the wrong way, is like, well, the sun is blaring down on you at 1:00 on the home team side, which was a big problem. Have you been in there? Yeah. Brady, we did a game in there once. Remember? We did the PAC12 championship.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Can I make a case for you? I feel like. Like you're an unbelievable host. And I'm not just saying this because you're on with us. Like, I've worked with you. I've witnessed it. You do do such a good job in those scenarios. You did the Big 12 one the one year we were together, and then you did the Pac12 one. And both of them, I was like, I want to watch those. Like, usually that's like, okay, like, let's pack up and go. I literally stayed just to watch. Just to watch you on those. Like, that's how entertaining it was.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah, they don't ask me to do them much anymore. I. They used to like me to do the old Dr. Pepper halftime thing because they couldn't trust Bruce Feldman with it, I guess.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, no.

[Petros Papadakis]

I mean, I love Bruce, but could you imagine him doing that?

[Brady Quinn]

That's not a deal.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah. Could you imagine he'd sit there and like, take a text from Chip Kelly halfway through and no one would know who won. So that's why they would have me do it, I guess, is just to do the Dr. Pepper. But you're Right. I enjoy those. I remember doing one of those, the one I did at the PAC12 when Washington, our friend Chris Peterson beat up, pretty beat up Utah team. A very boring game, was like nine to six. And I remember doing that half, doing that post game with Larry Scott, who was at that point already universally despised, and anybody with half a brain saw he was taken down the conference.

[Brady Quinn]

But besides the nice gift used to get at the Pac12 dinners, remember the media days?

[Petros Papadakis]

Oh, come on. I still wear. Use my earbuds right now. But Larry Scott was like, okay, I'll take the microphone now. I said, no, you won't. You will not. And I almost had like to battle him with my fist and the mic where he tried to like, kind of pry it out of my hand like, like Pat Hayden and Steve Sarkeesian behind stage that one night and, and it got a little ugly for a second. But the one thing you have to know is if you ever give your mic to anybody, I don't care if it's Rob Gronkowski who just won the super bowl or what, you can't give your mic to Larry Scott or the young man you're interviewing or, or the head coach, be it Chris Peterson or anybody, you've got to keep that mic. If they want to hold the mic, they've got to hold the mic outside of your hand. Your hand has to be the prophylactic because if you give up that mic, you're never getting hired again. Now, of course, I never gave up the mic and I'm still not getting hired again. So, yeah, there's some advice.

[Jonas Knox]

Speaking of getting hired or getting fired or moving on, I want to get higher. Yeah, go ahead, do it again. Do it again. I know that song too.

[Petros Papadakis]

I know. That's why I did it.

[LeVar Arrington]

Go ahead.

[Jonas Knox]

Your. Your guy, Matthew Stafford, is he to. To go or not to go? That is the question. And do you like the, the. I guess we're hearing Garoppolo, possibly. Or maybe, you know, I don't. What are you thinking in terms of quarterback?

[LeVar Arrington]

For how long?

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, what is that. That old Schefter said, you know, not that I pay much attention to anything, but Schefter said, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, if Stafford goes away.

[Jonas Knox]

What do you think about that?

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, don't they have a bit of a connection through LaFleur and all those guys from the commanders, from what I understand, McVeigh and all those people, they were all on that Shanahan staff through your old team, lavar and then, and then they've Kind of scattered around the NFL. But most of those guys, I imagine, kind of like Andy Reid and Brett Favre and that old. That old contingent of coaches, Steve Mariucci, that we used to hear about, those guys all seem to really like Aaron Rodgers. You know, the same way all those guys that scattered around from the Green Bay staff under Mike Holmgren really like Brett Favre. So maybe that works in la. Aaron can be in a major media market, and it gives the. The. The. The Rams a chance to stick it to Kelly Stafford because they're tired of listening to her and her podcast. My radio partner brought that up yesterday on our show that maybe they say, oh, Kelly, you like that? You want us to go on there and say this, say that? Well, here you go. You get to go to New York City where they suck, and here comes Aaron Rodgers to take your place.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, we don't need your podcast. We have to tap into that.

[Petros Papadakis]

Rogers needs that redemption, right? I mean, because Favre did the same thing. He left Green Bay. They went. He went to the Jets. He took a picture of his gray pube patch.

[Jonas Knox]

Whoa.

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, he didn't.

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, did.

[Brady Quinn]

What are you talking about? That wasn't him. I mean, those looks like his Crocs, but that was definitely not him.

[Petros Papadakis]

All right, you're right. I'm sorry. That's alleged.

[Jonas Knox]

That was definitely Brett Farr.

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, you could just say it didn't end well. It ended in controversy. And because of that, you know, he needed a redemption story, which he really did get in Minnesota. I mean, he was balling his old ass off.

[LeVar Arrington]

He did have a nice watch in Minnesota.

[Brady Quinn]

That's true.

[Petros Papadakis]

I'll show you a watch.

[Jonas Knox]

Dang.

[Petros Papadakis]

So anyway, maybe Aaron Rodgers gets that at SoFi. You know, that'd be pretty cool.

[LeVar Arrington]

Petro's just curious your thoughts. Obviously, you mentioned your partner, Matt Money Smith, the voice of the Bolts. They're on their way to Brazil.

[Petros Papadakis]

I saw that.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. You go, what's the plan?

[Petros Papadakis]

As you guys know, I'm a bit of an agoraphobe and really, really don't like traveling. Getting worse as I get older. I have to go places, and I do. But going to Brazil, where I've read a little bit about, but I know it's pretty wild and chaotic, is not on my list. Although I do enjoy the music. The Tropicalia, which is, like, what they listen to inside Brazil, and the bossa Nova, which they set around the world with the great writer and composer Antonio Carlos Jobim and Luis Bonfa, and many like that.

[Jonas Knox]

So, yeah, I'm so well versed when you have these, you know, moments like. Like what? When you have an agoraphobic moment, I.

[Petros Papadakis]

Just get uncomfortable, you know.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay. That's it. Like you're. Well, you can handle it though, I guess.

[Petros Papadakis]

I haven't been to Brazil. No one's trying to steal my kidney. You know that Ryan Lochte got in a fight at a gas station? Remember the swimmer?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Petros Papadakis]

No, it looks like a lot of fun. What we like to do with Matt, because he does travel. You know, he works with the Chargers and he travels other than that, too. He does college basketball and stuff. I like to. There's a movie called the Five Obstructions, and it's like a. It's like a bet between two really, really famous international movie makers, Jurgen Leth and Lars von Trier. And this guy, like, sets up these impossible movie making obstructions for this other movie maker and then makes a movie about him trying to, to. To clear the obstructions. So we do that with Matt. Like when he went to Baltimore, I made him find Edgar Allan Poe's grave. I made him go and get a big can of Natty Bow this, the National Bohemian beer that. They made him eat a crab cake. You know, it all has to be documented in Jacksonville, there's like some weird cartoon looking dinosaur. I made him get on an Uber and find that. And you know, his obstructions in Houston that the Chargers, when they had their playoff game, I only do it for the playoffs, didn't go so well. And maybe that's why the Chargers lost some alleged. So we'll see. Like, I could send him to Brazil and do obstructions, but he might not live through.

[Colin Cowherd]

Huh.

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, what was the plan in Houston that he didn't execute?

[Petros Papadakis]

I wanted him to go to this really old bar in downtown and instead, like, he was like, well, we were staying 20 minutes. I didn't. I didn't make it. He kind of blew it off in a way. And I'm not saying that's why the Chargers collapsed at all.

[Jonas Knox]

Huh?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. They didn't play well.

[Petros Papadakis]

No, he did make it to one of the structures, like a weird fountain or something.

[Jonas Knox]

Better situation. Is it a better situation to keep your guy? I'm sorry? Q. Is it a better situation to keep Stafford or is it a better situation with one of the other options?

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, I don't think they're going to get rid of him because his wife is annoying.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay.

[Petros Papadakis]

Although it's pretty annoying.

[Jonas Knox]

That's good to know.

[Petros Papadakis]

I mean, just think about the timeline. Remember last year? I mean, they have Puka Nakua, who's fixing to be the best rookie receiver we've seen in years. Yeah. And he's on there. He's in their camp. And remember, she came out on her podcast, was like, matt doesn't even relate with these young guys. They're always on their phone, and he doesn't even know. Remember that?

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, I do. I do.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

Now that you said it like that, I do remember. Yeah.

[Petros Papadakis]

I mean, these guys have to be. Les need doesn't seem like he's not annoying, but he's got to be annoyed by this, you know? And, yeah, I mean, you've seen his frames and the glasses he wears and that stupid shirt on the parade. I mean, she's done a lot of things that are pretty questionable. And then, yeah, you know, I dated the backup to make them jealous. You know, there was that, and now there's like, if I have to be the dog, I will be. You know, we want to win a championship. Matthew wants to win. It's like, okay. But I don't think that's why they'd get rid of him. But if they're gonna. If they're far apart on a deal, I don't think that would help that. She's got wind in her jaws. And I think. No, I think the pragmatic thing to do is to bring in Matt Stafford again. And he's still playing at a high level, and he's got a great arm, and he's competitive, and even though it seems like his wife beats the crap out of him, he's pretty tough.

[LeVar Arrington]

What is he, Cap Rooney?

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[Petros Papadakis]

Quaid.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yes.

[Petros Papadakis]

Lauren Holly, a forgotten 90s actress.

[Brady Quinn]

Petros, I want to go back and get your thoughts on the NBA All Star Game as well as LeBron deciding to opt out of the All Star Game.

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, I mean, can I go full conspiracy theory? I mean, I know I already mentioned Brett Favre's nether regions, but can I go full conspiracy theory?

[LeVar Arrington]

Sure.

[Brady Quinn]

Sure.

[Petros Papadakis]

All right.

[LeVar Arrington]

Do we have any Unsolved Mysteries music we can play for Petros while we.

[Petros Papadakis]

I mean, I'll take Current Affair, the old Tony Bruno. I think Adam Silver did this. I don't believe that. This idiot in Dallas and our guy with the tight bomber jacket in La Pelinka and Nico Harrison figured this out themselves, and it didn't leak for months. And I don't believe an ounce of that story. I don't. I believe that a call was made probably late into the afternoon from Jeannie Buss or some proxy. Could be Linda Rambis to the vampire Adam Silversmith house. And in his coffin, six feet deep, he took the red phone call and said, blah. Hello. And because he's like a vampire. And Jeannie Buzz said, Look, we took LeBron. Now you got to get us out of this. His weird agency is up in our building. He's destroying everything, and none of our fans like us anymore. Many of our fans won't start watching the Lakers again until he's gone. We need something. Just like we needed something when Kareem came, Just like we needed something when Pau Gasol came, Just like we needed something. And all these other times. And Silver waved his vampiric fingers and made this happen.

[Jonas Knox]

So he's one of Jonas's people.

[Petros Papadakis]

That makes LeBron and his people, because they're not without power, upset. How do they counter? Well, they act all cool when Luca shows up and he plays the nice guy. That won't last.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, I see where you're going, Pete.

[Petros Papadakis]

LeBron says, here's what I'm gonna do.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm not gonna play.

[Petros Papadakis]

I'm gonna wreck your all star game. I'm gonna wait till an hour before tip, and then I'm gonna squat down and defecate on your entire weekend.

[Jonas Knox]

It's a great theory.

[LeVar Arrington]

Good call.

[Jonas Knox]

That's a very, very good call.

[Petros Papadakis]

Thank you.

[Brady Quinn]

All right, can I post this question there?

[LeVar Arrington]

Once you put that in your pipe, Robert Stack and Smoke guys did.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Did anyone care that he wasn't a part of a game that really wasn't entertaining?

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, no, but he made it about himself again, which is.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, that's not surprising.

[Jonas Knox]

I took a shot, got leave during it. He.

[Petros Papadakis]

He could have at least.

[Brady Quinn]

He could have at least put on the all star uniform, right?

[Petros Papadakis]

At least we had the deflection where. Oh, he got Gottlieb good.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Petros Papadakis]

Nice deflection, LeBron. Thanks for ruining your sport. But just to deflect to a team in Minnesota, Wisconsin. All right, cool. But, yeah, that's my theory.

[Jonas Knox]

He could have put the uniform on.

[LeVar Arrington]

At least for the photo.

[Jonas Knox]

He didn't want. He. Bruh. That. That's Petros. That's the best I've heard, because I have been made aware of the fact that they truly did not know. I thought they were in the know.

[Petros Papadakis]

But no, and they're not.

[Jonas Knox]

They were not in the know about what took place with this trade.

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, what bothers me is you look at all guys, the people that work for LeBron, the LeBron media contingency, and we all know who they are. One of them looks like a tortoise. And, you know, I look kind of like a walrus with.

[Brady Quinn]

Anyway, who would be the tortoise?

[Petros Papadakis]

The one, though. The one with the horse wind. Dang. Now, these guys all came out and said, right? And I barely try to pay attention to this stuff, but the hypocrisy is so glaring. These guys, for years, you know, every move that's been made with the Lakers, these guys for years been like, well, you know, LeBron's got nothing to do with it. A lot of people want to say he does, but he's got nothing to do with it. And then this trade happens, and LeBron actually has nothing to do with it. And they all come out and say, well, this is the first time LeBron's had nothing to do with it. It's like, well, what about the last seven years of your lies, you freaking shill? I don't know how any of the. I mean, look, I am not without problems and I am not without flaws, but the lack of integrity and honor. Not that the sports media, I mean, we're already the toy department. How do you mess up the toy department? And how do you mess up a rock fight? I mean, we have really destroyed how to cover these people. And it's because they have proxies within the media that are planted. I mean, when LeBron came to LA, they brought a studio host and a beat writer with him, said, hey, hire this studio host and, hey, hire this beat writer. Do you think they ever write anything bad about LeBron? Not much. Thank you, Jonas. Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

If, you know, you know Petros, you know, that's one of those I've been knowing. Yeah, it's. That's a hell of a theory, though.

[Jonas Knox]

I like that.

[Petros Papadakis]

It's not a theory. I was at yoga today, and my friend Joseph, who I believe was on the Filipino national basketball team, was asking me, you know, what I thought about the Luca trade. And I told him about the phone, the bat phone, and the vampire house and some other guy who was tall. So he probably thought he had some kind of basketball legitimacy, which he probably does over me. He was like, oh, you guys are going with the conspiracy theories. I was like, you don't know. Get out of here. Talk to me, Petro.

[LeVar Arrington]

So you guys are going to. Is it a. Namaste, bitch. Is it. Is it a. Is it a Flex alert tomorrow? The Dodgers are back.

[Petros Papadakis]

So the Petros and Money show on la. In la, you mean?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, I mean, is this a.

[Petros Papadakis]

We're only going to be on where The Dodgers are going to play from noon to whatever, and then we're going to come on and we're only going to be on an hour and then we got to flip it like a Tommy Frazier or Eric Crouch pitch to the sideline. To the, to the Clippers. Okay, who are in Milwaukee who have Kyle Kuzma, who's recently engaged to that woman, the supermodel with vitiligo.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.

[Petros Papadakis]

You're talking about Winnie Harlow. Congratulations to the happy.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, congrats.

[Jonas Knox]

Nice. That's beautiful.

[Petros Papadakis]

And did you guys know that Cardi B's hooking up with Stefan?

[Jonas Knox]

I told Jonas that earlier.

[Petros Papadakis]

See, I'm not just up on Swift.

[Jonas Knox]

And Kelsey all the game.

[Petros Papadakis]

My guy, my umbrella.

[Jonas Knox]

There you go.

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, Lavar just showed me some information about Lamar Odom and who he's dating and.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, did you see that one?

[Petros Papadakis]

Hey, you got it. My first song on the radio that I ever did, parody song was to the Gambler by Kenny Rogers.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay.

[Petros Papadakis]

You know, you gotta know when to hold him. But it was, you gotta know Lamar Odom. Oh, he rolls blunts and smokes.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, oh, no.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, well, he found another one smoking blunts.

[Petros Papadakis]

Third grade, he was 11.

[LeVar Arrington]

He found that.

[Jonas Knox]

Don't put 11 in there.

[LeVar Arrington]

He found another one.

[Brady Quinn]

I just, I just saw. Yeah, I saw. What's happening?

[Petros Papadakis]

What does she look like? Is she young in the mind?

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, the mind might be a little different than is she young in the mind.

[LeVar Arrington]

Put it this way, Petros and she. The S is silent. Oh, you know.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, yeah.

[Petros Papadakis]

Dang.

[Jonas Knox]

Brian was like, what exactly does that mean?

[LeVar Arrington]

Very, very interesting.

[Petros Papadakis]

Well, that's, that's wonderful for them. I hope they're happy.

[LeVar Arrington]

The market at the old P is where you can find him on.

[Petros Papadakis]

All I see is a custom life size sex doll.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, he was a part of that too. You use that for shift gears a little bit.

[Brady Quinn]

Petro lane. Yeah, I was say you got to use that. The carpool lane. That's what you got to do out there.

[Jonas Knox]

Dang.

[Petros Papadakis]

He's his.

[Brady Quinn]

I used to drive it all the.

[Petros Papadakis]

Time, but his last name is.

[Jonas Knox]

Did you really?

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah, you got to know Lamar Petros.

[LeVar Arrington]

The co host of the Petros and Money show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM570 Louisiana Sports Fox College football.

[Petros Papadakis]

I'm gonna be invited on in a while. Let this be a lesson to everybody. Leave me alone in the mid morning.

[LeVar Arrington]

So there he is, Petrus Papadakis. Always a fun ride with Petros here every Wednesday morning. You can hear Petrus with us as well too on two pros and a cup of Joe. It is the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Coming up next year we are going dive back into our coverage of the NFL. All sorts of fun stuff, juicy rumors, headlines, storylines. They are yours coming up next here on fsr.

[Petros Papadakis]

Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Brady Quinn]

I'm Mark Seale.

[Mark Seale]

And I'm Nathan King.

[Jonas Knox]

This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[LeVar Arrington]

The five families did not want us.

[Petros Papadakis]

To shoot that picture.

[Mark Seale]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really.

[Jonas Knox]

The first interview I've done in bed.

[Mark Seale]

We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting.

[LeVar Arrington]

That's nonsense.

[Mark Seale]

There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened.

[LeVar Arrington]

And they said we're finished. This is over. It's not going to work.

[Brady Quinn]

You gotta get rid of those guys.

[Mark Seale]

This is that Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Mark Seale]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the cannoli starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink.

[Brady Quinn]

There was something sentimental when you.

[Petros Papadakis]

When.

[Jonas Knox]

When you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Petros Papadakis]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

One for the money. Yes. Two for the show a couple of years ago. Dang.

[LeVar Arrington]

Speaking of bad songs, you're not gonna.

[Jonas Knox]

Ruin my song, playboy. I mean, that was the lyrics. That was that, not the lyrics.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, and who sings that song? Outkast. Yeah, let's keep it that way.

[LeVar Arrington]

Damn.

[Brady Quinn]

Hey, well done. All right.

[LeVar Arrington]

Geez, Ryan.

[Jonas Knox]

Good gosh almighty.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, that's one way of doing it, right?

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, friendly fire.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right.

[Jonas Knox]

You ain't too big to get slapped out either. My bad. My bad. Be clear on that.

[Brady Quinn]

Why do you always gotta resort to violence?

[Jonas Knox]

That's what I know. That's what I know. I'm hostile.

[Brady Quinn]

You know, maybe. Maybe people do have something.

[Jonas Knox]

They. They got a legitimate gripe against me.

[Brady Quinn]

I'm just saying, like, you were.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, you've threatened me earlier.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, no. If that guy's still with us, he might be listening, so.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Do you think he is still nothing.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't care. I don't care if he. If he dies, he dies. Damn. Okay. That dude was attacking me, man, and blamed it on me, though. How you going to attack me and blame the attack on me? That's weird, man. Yeah. I don't know. Well, anyway, hey, if he does.

[LeVar Arrington]

It'S the. The herd here on FOX Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jodas Knox in for Colin. Coming up in about 15 minutes from now in the final edition of the Herdline news here on this Wednesday, we are going to tell you about some numbers that came in that. Well, don't blame us. We're just reporting the news. All right, so don't blame us. The numbers are in and it's not a good look for some people in the world of sports. That'll be yours here again a little over 15 minutes from now. Speaking of numbers, the NFL did send out a memo to teams on Wednesday informing them that the salary cap for the 2025 season will be somewhere between 277 and a half and 281 and a half million. It was set at 255 last year and 224 in the 2023 campaign. So the number over the last two years has jumped up. Well, a little over $50 million for the NFL. So is that a lot? I mean it would, it would speak to. They're doing pretty well. It seems like they've rebounded from the COVID year and not doing too bad, huh?

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. 50 mil. Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Opens up the door and people need to get comfortable with players earning some ridiculously huge numbers because most quarterbacks in particular who are going to keep pushing the envelope like their salary or their compensation is going to be tied to the percentage of the cap. So I mean, we're already seeing quarterbacks make around 60 million per year. Like, I don't think it's that crazy to see, see Patrick Mahomes making, I don't know, 90 million, 100 million a year. I mean, in all seriousness, like people can find this laugh ball you want. The guy has done nothing but make it to the AFC championship round every single year he's been a starter. If you were to pay him a hundred million, do you feel like you're overpaying him for the guys right now in the NFL, the best quarterback.

[LeVar Arrington]

If the Chiefs balked on that, there would be somebody in 10 minutes that would be willing to give him $100 million. Jerry Jones would give him $100 million.

[Brady Quinn]

I would think so.

[Jonas Knox]

Anyone in the league would do it if they could do it. I mean, why wouldn't you? He's got a lot of football ahead of him. Why wouldn't you? So, I mean there's and the ROI on that. I mean the con, the instant buy in to, to the hope. If you're selling hope. Most of these organizations are selling hope. What better way to Sell hope than to bring in a guy like. Like Patrick Mahomes. He's never leaving Kansas City, that's for certain. So you're right. To your point. Yes. You would pay him 100 million. 100. Now, is that a year? Is that yearly? Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Finding some way of paying that.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, I just. The whole discussion about you can't give so and so, this amount of. Give this guy this amount of money, it's like. Like, what do you think Brock Purdy's gonna end up getting paid if the Niners do a deal, but he's gonna get 50 to 60.

[Brady Quinn]

You think he'll be making 50 million a year? Yeah.

[Petros Papadakis]

Dang.

[Jonas Knox]

Brock Purdy?

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, Brock Purdy. Prepare yourself for that reality, Lavar.

[Jonas Knox]

Wow. All right. Good for him. Why you look at me?

[LeVar Arrington]

Why you stop looking at me?

[Jonas Knox]

Because if brock Purdy's getting 50 million, then the next one's up. Or that. Like, that number ridiculous.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, yeah, that's that number.

[Jonas Knox]

Next man up at that position is ridiculous. Good for quarterbacks.

[LeVar Arrington]

That's why you look at.

[Jonas Knox]

Son, we got to have a discussion. That's why you might have to flip positions.

[LeVar Arrington]

You look at saquon Barkley making 13 million this year.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

Drastically underpaid.

[Jonas Knox]

Doesn't even matter. Like, 13 million, like, wow, nothing. That's like dropping the bucket. And he was fighting for that. They didn't want paying 14 in New York. He was fighting for 13 million. You talk about Brock Purdy.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

What world does Brock Purdy compare to Saquon Barkley as an impact player for your team? In what world? 13 versus 50. Damn. Something to be said about being a QB, man. Y'all are treated very differently.

[LeVar Arrington]

That's a great point.

[Jonas Knox]

I never wanted to be a QB, though. So. No shouts out to the QBs, man. I mean, because there's a lot that comes along with that, too. I mean, I'm sitting here joking about it, but there is a lot that comes with being a quarterback, man. I would say in a lot of cases, they have the less amount of. Of opportunity to have fun as players because of all the pressure that's on them and all the attention that goes their way. Like, a lot of people talk about it in one way or another, but, I mean, you guys do have a ton of pressure on y'all, man.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, I think the one thing that I would say is a little bit unfair is there's less time for a quarterback to develop compared to other positions like, you get it for. Like, most people probably wrote off Bryce Young after his rookie year because the way it looked, it looked bad. I mean, I'll be the first to admit looked bad. It looked like he wasn't going to be capable of playing in the NFL. Now, since then, he's improved. He's continued to grow and mature and. And he's found a way of being able to play his game in the NFL and finish on the high note this season. But that's the reality of the position right now, is you get one chance for a first impression, and that first impression is lasting. I mean, think about this. Think about Sam Darnold after the year that he had had. You think that everyone would be clamoring to sign him to a big deal. And look, again, I had someone who was, you know, with the 49ers back when Darnold was with them a couple years ago, and he said, you know, warming up on the field before the game, I said, how Darnold look? I was like, I'm kind of fascinated to see what he's going to look like if he ever gets a shot in San Francisco. He's like, well, if you saw Darnold and Brock Purdy warm up, you would be sitting there thinking, well, Darnold's got to be the starter, right? Like, there's not one physical trade or attribute that Brock Purdy has over Sam Darnold. But again, in between the years is an important part. And Brock Purdy's done a tremendous job in Kyle Shanahan's system. But it further kind of proves the point. Darnold has all the tools. You know, he was thought to have all the tools when he got in the league because of how things went with a dysfunctional organization in New York, with how things went with a dysfunctional organization in Carolina. He's fortunately found now a spot in Minnesota where he got a chance to go play, and he played really, really well this year. But there might be some people who are hesitant, who are like, yeah, but I don't know, what about those other years and what about that first impression he made when he first got in the league? Like, people will still hold back because of that. So that's the toughest part, I think, for quarterbacks nowadays is they've got to hit the ground running, and then that's what people basically form their opinions on, and they usually never really get off that.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's the herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up next here in the Herdline news, the numbers are in, and it is not a Good look for somebody in the world of sports. That's yours here on fox Sports Radio.

[Petros Papadakis]

One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

[LeVar Arrington]

Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking.

[Jonas Knox]

About the stories behind the stories in.

[LeVar Arrington]

The world of sports and pop culture.

[Jonas Knox]

Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends.

[LeVar Arrington]

For the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too.

[Jonas Knox]

Take your phone calls, chop it up, up as they say.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Ko Vino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Brady Quinn]

I'm Mark Seale.

[Mark Seale]

And I'm Nathan King.

[Jonas Knox]

This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us.

[Petros Papadakis]

To shoot that picture.

[Mark Seale]

Leave the Gun Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really.

[Jonas Knox]

The first interview I've done in bed.

[Mark Seale]

We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much many of them conflicting.

[LeVar Arrington]

That's nonsense.

[Mark Seale]

There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened.

[LeVar Arrington]

And they said, we're finished.

[Petros Papadakis]

This is over.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's not going to work.

[Brady Quinn]

You gotta get rid of those guys.

[Petros Papadakis]

This is that.

[Mark Seale]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes, that was a real horse his head.

[Mark Seale]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the cannoli starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Join by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed, listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored, they changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Petros Papadakis]

There was something sentimental when you, when.

[Jonas Knox]

You send it, it's like, do I.

[Petros Papadakis]

Send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Petros Papadakis]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[LeVar Arrington]

Jonas Knox in for Colin. So we are going to be on in the Dan Patrick time slot coming up tomorrow and Friday and then we're back to our normal time slot. Coming up, coming up, coming up next week so you can hear us three hours before this one. Six to nine Pacific time. That's nine to noon Eastern time. Whatever and whatever time that is in Hawaii. That's the most important out.

[Brady Quinn]

That's the most important.

[LeVar Arrington]

What's your problem with Pacific time? You know?

[Jonas Knox]

Well, he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to do it.

[Brady Quinn]

Everything goes off east coast time, man.

[LeVar Arrington]

Come on. All right.

[Petros Papadakis]

Come on.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, I do notice not everything. My sleep don't go off east coast time. It goes off west coast. And now we got to wake up again tomorrow. Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

Hey, less traffic, though. That's right.

[Jonas Knox]

It is less traffic, though. I will say you're right.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, there you go.

[LeVar Arrington]

Six to nine works.

[Jonas Knox]

There are some positives.

[LeVar Arrington]

Now, shortly after this show, the podcast will be going up. So if you've missed any of today's show, be sure to check out the pod Search Herd or two Pros. Wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow rate and review it again. Just search Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll see this show posted right after we get off the air.

[Jonas Knox]

On the news.

[Petros Papadakis]

This is the Herd line news.

[LeVar Arrington]

Now, this is the Herdline news, starring Lee Dalap, who was staring down the barrel of a date with a Philly cheesesteak.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, about a half hour. That place is hoagie that, you know, they got a put their best foot forward.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, yeah, that's the last thing you need.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, dang.

[LeVar Arrington]

They make this awesome chipotle smoky chipotle sauce I put on it. Oh, so good.

[Jonas Knox]

Cannot wait.

[LeVar Arrington]

You better go travel shopping afterwards.

[Jonas Knox]

Philadelphia Hoagies Philadelphia. All you got to do is slap Philadelphia on there no matter where you are in the country and you're going sell a hoagie or two.

[LeVar Arrington]

You know, do a real Philly cheesesteak. This Cheese whiz correct what they say. I don't like the Cheese Whiz myself.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't go with cheese Whiz either. But that is what it's considered to be. The original the OG's of them. But go ahead, Lee.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, it's like a little shack inside of a parking lot outside of a liquor store.

[Brady Quinn]

It's great.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, perfect.

[LeVar Arrington]

Boy, sign me up.

[Jonas Knox]

Will you venture into the liquor store after you're done or before you're done.

[LeVar Arrington]

You got to wash it down with something.

[Jonas Knox]

So.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, I'll be.

[Jonas Knox]

I'll be in there. Okay.

[LeVar Arrington]

Maybe get a lotto ticket.

[Jonas Knox]

We'll see what happens. Oh, there you go, guys.

[LeVar Arrington]

The numbers are out for the NBA All Star. Game and surprise, surprise, viewership is down.

[Jonas Knox]

13% from last year.

[LeVar Arrington]

Last year they were at about 5.4 million. This year, 4.7.

[Jonas Knox]

Wow.

[Brady Quinn]

Can I actually provide you a little more analysis on this?

[LeVar Arrington]

Sure.

[Brady Quinn]

Do you know it's the second fewest or I guess least watched NBA all star game since 2000. And just to give like people an understanding of the decline that the NBA has been on. So the peak was, I believe in like, was it 2000, 2003, where it was 13.1 million had watched. So I think that was 2002. And since then it's literally been on a decline with a few exceptions, like 2011 was 9.1 and here and there, but it's been literally declining since then. So look, I'm not, I'm not going to have the answer for you as far as what they should do, but I think if you're looking at what took place at the same time, which the Canada USA game did over 10.1 million, if you include Canada, then about 14 or, excuse me, 4.4, you know, up to 5.2 or something like that million at its peak. But if you look at that format and you divide it up, the USA versus, you know, the other countries that are involved in the league, I think you'd have a pretty fun game, at least a more entertaining game to a degree, I think.

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, if they want to fix the ratings, just put on an old NFL game. That way people will tune in, you know, if you want to get interested. So. Oh, but hey, whatever you guys do, don't be too critical, you know, because, you know, just people just like come out after you. Yeah, people just like to complain. It's not, you know, not, it's not the reality. It's just complaints about the game.

[Brady Quinn]

Let me ask this question then. Are NBA players unaware of the dramatic decline in ratings that have happened now for years in the making? I mean, like, like, how can you, how can you not acknowledge that?

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know. It's a good question.

[LeVar Arrington]

It was brutal. Was it? Was Trey Young the one who came out and said, yeah, I didn't like it at all. Like, I just didn't like whatever we were doing it just.

[Brady Quinn]

By the way, what makes these numbers worse too is how Nielsen just changed their ratings for the out of home, you know, rating system we had talked about. Like, when you look at the NFL, the Super Bowl, I mean, that was an all time highest most rated game ever and it was a blowout, which seems like it doesn't make any sense. So that even makes this look that much worse, if you really think about it.

[LeVar Arrington]

Lee, what did Daytona do? What was Daytona 500, I'd love. Because that was actually a really entertaining race. And I'm curious to see what their numbers were in comparison, or at least in comparison to last year. What they did. I am seeing 5.3 million at a high of 6.3. So they beat the NBA All Star game.

[Brady Quinn]

Yes.

[LeVar Arrington]

7.5, the highest. Okay, now everything's fine. Listen, we're just complaining.

[Brady Quinn]

That's just everything would rather watch cars drive around in a circle.

[LeVar Arrington]

Everything's fine for hours.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, if we're being real, everything's fine.

[Jonas Knox]

They were up from last year.

[LeVar Arrington]

It was a great race.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, God. What else, Lee? More numbers for you. According to the American Gaming association annual report, 6.7. That was the average.

[Petros Papadakis]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

The highest was 75. American Gaming Association's annual report came out today. The American sports betting industry posted a record $13.7 billion in revenue last year, up from 11.11 billion in 2023. They took in nearly $150 billion worth of bets. 22.2% increase from 2023:1 at a rate of 9.3. And that was just from Jontay Porter. Who else bet?

[Brady Quinn]

So I was gonna throw your name in there.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Two $5 bets start to add up after a while.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'll say, this man lead to lap. Just delivered the goods. Can't say enough.

[Jonas Knox]

You're very welcome. I just can't believe he hated on Captain America. The new one, though.

[LeVar Arrington]

That's.

[Jonas Knox]

That really was.

[LeVar Arrington]

He's a racist.

[Jonas Knox]

Very disappointing.

[LeVar Arrington]

I love Black Panther. Panther.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, wow.

[Brady Quinn]

Because you love Black Panther, you're not racist.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, my God.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, hey, Lee. Do you have a bunch of black friends, too?

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. And you listen to the Temptations?

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, hey, Ryan. I'm sorry that you got subjected to this today. First of all, racist. He's, you know, blowing it up in there, and then he's making comments like that his.

[Jonas Knox]

His true. True colors came out. Wow.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

What a horrible way. Then show a red Hulk or green Hulk.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'm. I'm more of an adult, so I. I don't partake in either. I'm not. It's not.

[Jonas Knox]

Not partaking.

[LeVar Arrington]

No, it's not my. That's not my thing. Yeah, I'll. I'll skip Captain America. My wife wanted me to go see that movie with. She was taking my son, and her sister was going. She was taking her kid. She's like. Yeah. So the movie starts. My what movie? Just Captain America. I was like, oh, you think I'm going? No chance. Zero chance.

[Jonas Knox]

HHL theater. Is that like the real deal? Should we go? Should I go there?

[LeVar Arrington]

The what theater?

[Jonas Knox]

It's like hhla. It's like a big, big theater off the side of the Howard Hughes.

[LeVar Arrington]

The Howard Hughes Cinemark.

[Jonas Knox]

I haven't been. It looks like it's badass, but I don't know. I want to go to one that's like really, really like, you know, like that next level one I've been to, the one that has the mist blow on you and all that stuff.

[LeVar Arrington]

The 40? Yeah, no, it looks cool.

[Jonas Knox]

I'll check that out. Yeah, let's go.

[LeVar Arrington]

Let's go see a movie.

[Jonas Knox]

All right, we'll catch one. Black History Month is here and we're excited to kick off season four. If I didn't know, maybe you didn't either. This season we're shining a spotlight on revolutionary women who redefined excellence. Give grace wisher her flowers. Next time you see the American flag, you just remember a 16 year old black woman helped to make it happen. Listen to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. From the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or simply wherever you get your podcast. I didn't know.

[LeVar Arrington]

Welcome to my legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

[Jonas Knox]

Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Billy Porter.

[LeVar Arrington]

Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

This is my legacy.

[Brady Quinn]

I'm Mark Seale.

[Mark Seale]

And I'm Nathan King.

[Jonas Knox]

This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us.

[Petros Papadakis]

To shoot that picture.

[Mark Seale]

This podcast is based on my co host Mark Seals best selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Mark Seale]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

What if you ask two different people the same set of questions? Even if the questions are the same, our experiences can lead us to drastically different answers. I'm Minnie Driver and I set out to explore this idea in my podcast, and now Mini Questions is returning for another season. We've asked an entirely new set of guests our seven questions, including Jane Lynch, Delaney Rowe, and Cord Jefferson. Listen to Mini questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Seven questions limitless answers.